[13:26] <bazhang> mi3 seems to want apt-get to operate differently than it does
[13:31] <bioterror> and now he joined #lubuntu again
[13:31] <bioterror> let's see how he acts this time :D
[20:49] <tonyyarusso> !admingroup
[20:49] <tonyyarusso> shut up you dumb bot
[20:50] <tonyyarusso> @login
[20:50] <tonyyarusso> !admingroup is <reply> Up until Ubuntu 11.10, administrator access using the sudo tool was granted via the "admin" Unix group. In Ubuntu 12.04, administrator access will be granted via the "sudo" group. This makes Ubuntu more consistent with the upstream implementation and Debian. For compatibility purposes, the "admin" group will continue to provide sudo/administrator access in 12.04.
[20:51] <tonyyarusso> It is a bit wordy though...
[20:55] <tonyyarusso> !admingroup is <reply> Up through Ubuntu 11.10, administrator privileges using sudo was granted to the "admin" Unix group.  In Ubuntu 12.04, privileges are granted to the "sudo" group, for consistency with upstream and Debian.  For compatibility, the "admin" group will continue to have access in 12.04.
[20:55] <tonyyarusso> A smidge better.
[20:55] <tonyyarusso> !no, admingroup is <reply> Up through Ubuntu 11.10, administrator privileges using sudo was granted to the "admin" Unix group.  In Ubuntu 12.04, privileges are granted to the "sudo" group, for consistency with upstream and Debian.  For compatibility, the "admin" group will continue to have access in 12.04.
[20:55] <tonyyarusso> !admingroup > LinuxMonkey
[20:56] <MrChrisDruif> !admingroup > MrChrisDruif
[20:56] <AlanBell> we are doing a call for ops across the channels: http://ubottu.com/ircc/2012/05/04/call-for-irc-operators/
[20:57] <MrChrisDruif> I've just seen the email arrive, need to read it still ^_^
[21:24] <tsimpson> do we really need that factoid?
[21:25] <maco> huh. good to know.
[21:25] <maco> do upgrades automatically copy everyone from admin to sudo?
[21:25] <maco> cuz thatd be handy!
[21:25] <tsimpson> it says that admin is also used in 12.04, so people don't have to do anything...
[21:26] <maco> but i assume a proper transition will happen at some point
[21:26] <maco> so copying them over for when admin is dropped in 12.10 or 13.04 or whatever.... handy
[21:27] <tsimpson> I'd assume that'd be automagic
[21:27] <tsimpson> so I still don't know what value it brings to add the factoid
[21:27] <maco> im hoping so
[21:31] <tonyyarusso> tsimpson: Considering that I personally had a "What the hell?  Why isn't this working?" moment like two days ago due to the sudo change, I'm going to go with yes, it's a reasonable factoid.  ;)
[21:32] <tsimpson> probably more worth wile filing a bug ;)
[21:32] <tsimpson> *worthwhile
[21:32] <tsimpson> if something breaks, and people have no idea why, it's an issue
[21:33] <tonyyarusso> Although, looking back at the issue I had, it appears the factoid isn't complete.
[21:33] <tonyyarusso> From what I can tell, *new* installs don't have an admin group at all, so I assume the backwards compatibility must only be for upgrades.  Can anyone confirm that?
[21:34] <tonyyarusso> (I tried to do 'adduser somebody admin' and got "group 'admin' does not exist")
[23:35] <mneptok> 17:07 < Paulmaster> i have question!!!
[23:35] <mneptok> 17:24 < Paulmaster> i have question
[23:35] <mneptok> jrib: ^^^
[23:36] <mneptok> dunno if you /lastlogged
[23:36] <mneptok> aaaaaaaand nm
[23:37] <jrib> @btlogin
[23:38] <jrib> @help
[23:38] <jrib> !ubottu
[23:39] <jrib> @mark #ubuntu Paulmaster repeatedly says he has a question but never divulges what it is
[23:39] <jrib> thank you ubottu
[23:39] <jrib> mneptok: yeah wasn't sure if it was reoccuring or a one time thing