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ubuntuuk-planet[Stuart Langridge] Waiting - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/05/03/waiting00:03
Knightwisehey everyone :) good morning05:02
AlanBellmorning all06:00
TheOpenSourcererMorning AlanBell unlike you to be online so early ;-)06:09
TheOpenSourcererha ha ha  http://twitpic.com/9gaj3606:10
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popeymorning06:43
dogmatic69o/06:44
AlanBellchoo choo07:09
diploMorning07:11
justsohi07:11
daubersMorning07:35
* daubers does the excited dance07:35
MooDoomorning all07:45
selinuxiumMorning all07:45
selinuxiumErm... Google.co.uk .... Human Centipede? O_o07:46
DJonesbigcalm: What did you think of the S3 now its been announced/reviewed etc07:51
DJonesHappy star wars day btw07:51
dwatkinsMay the forth be with you all08:08
bigcalmGood morning all and happy 4th May :)08:10
bigcalmDJones: my irssi proxy emailed me when you mentioned me as I wasn't yet connected to it. Really like that :)08:11
bigcalmDJones: yes, I'm looking forward to having a sgs3 in my hands to compare to the htc1x08:11
bigcalmThe htc1x is big to hold, hoping that the sgs3 is a little more comfortable08:11
DJonesLooking at the spec's, it looks to be about 1/2 cm longer/wider than my Desire HD08:12
bigcalmThe same with my nexus one. Hope that t-mobile have dummy handsets in their shops soon08:17
DJonesMust admit, I'm 50:50 whether to change phones & get an S3 (or better) when my contract is due in November, or just to keep this phone and just go with a giffgaff sim08:23
bigcalmMy contract was due to renewal at the begining of April08:24
bigcalmThe waiting is terrible08:24
DJonesHeh, yeah, I was like that last time, I waited for the HD to come out for a couple of months08:25
bigcalmYikes08:26
bigcalmThe s3 is wider and taller than the 1x08:26
bigcalmThough slightly thinner08:26
DJonesHow does it compare to the Note?08:26
bigcalmhtc1x 134.4 x 69.9 x 8.9 mm08:27
bigcalmsgs3 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6mm08:27
DJonesWhats a couple of mm between friends08:28
bigcalmnote 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm08:28
DJonesNot much between the htc & the S3 then08:28
bigcalmWell, I find the htc1x uncomfortable to hold. So the handset I chose will now be down to what's in it08:28
DJonesHeh, 1st 1000 order for the S3 at carphone warehouse get a free Galaxy Tab08:29
bigcalmDJones: that's what Alan Lord did08:31
bigcalmI'm happy with my Xoom, so don't have a need08:31
DJonesbigcalm: http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-htc-one-x-vs-iphone-4s08:32
bigcalmLooks like I'm not working this morning then :P08:32
DJones:)08:32
bigcalmI wonder by whom the reviews are trusted08:38
diploMorning all08:39
diploCan you .htaccess a symlinked dir ?08:39
bigcalmdiplo: if the .htaccess rules in the parent directory say so08:40
diploIE website is /srv/www/html and I have a symlinked dir from /srv/dir to /srv/www/html/dir08:40
bigcalmFollow symlinks08:40
bigcalmOr something similar08:40
bigcalmTry it :)08:40
diploYep, all on :)08:40
diploI have, can't get it to work.. just wanted to make sure I read it right08:40
diplo:P08:40
bigcalmFair enough :)08:40
DJonesbigcalm: http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1059098/vs05-03_20-02-41x1020_gallery_post.jpg Looking at that, I prefer the HTC08:41
bigcalmYeah08:42
diplothehtc the onex ?08:42
bigcalmThough I did like the look of the s208:42
diploSister is debating ordering the S3 this weekend08:42
bigcalmI have a month to mull it over08:43
diploI defo want my next phone to have no buttons at the bottom though08:43
smittixMorning all.08:43
oimonit makes me laugh when people scream "we want games on linux". then there's news about EA , and the haters go "not those games!"08:43
bigcalmAnd the release day is while we're in Northern Ireland to celebrate Hayley's 40th birthday08:43
diploI have big chubby fingers and keep hitting the hard buttons at the bottom08:43
diploheh oimon - Always going to be some isn't there.08:44
DJonesdiplo: Now you've said that, smething I've never noticed is that mine doesn't have a button at the bottom08:44
oimondiplo, yeah, and vocal too. looks like reddit tells a lot of people what to think08:44
bigcalmI'm used to having the ball on my nexus one08:45
diploI have a wildfire and the little butons at the bottom get hit all the time08:45
bigcalmWhich is handy when the touch interface goes crazy if I'm lying in bed08:45
oimondoes it?08:45
bigcalmOh, those buttons. I like them on my n108:45
oimonbigcalm, ah, if you have it under the covers then condensation forms on the screen08:45
BigRedSI do keep wishing my galaxy2 had more buttons than just the iPhone one08:46
bigcalmoimon: indeed, but this is out side of the covers. Starts off ok and then slowly goes crazy08:46
oimonhmm08:46
BigRedSbigcalm: mine does that sometimes on charge. Hasn't since I changed the USB cable i was using08:46
bigcalmAgain, this is while it's unplugged (I don't think it makes a difference for me)08:47
bigcalmGoodness I'm tired08:49
JamesTaitHappy Star Wars Day! *8OD08:52
bigcalmJamesTait: 4th May be with you08:53
JamesTaitbigcalm: And you. :)08:55
bigcalmhttp://vimeo.com/4053999309:03
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brobostigongood morning everyone,09:29
wintellecthi brobostigon09:30
brobostigonhi wintellect09:31
dogmatic69anyone know why my servers wlan0 keeps disconnecting? its been fine for a whole month, now 4 times in two days I have had to sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0 to make it work again09:35
dogmatic69is there anything I can look at to see what is causing this?09:35
oimonanything in dmesg?09:36
oimonor /var/log/syslog?09:36
dogmatic69one sec. I will go check09:36
* dogmatic69 takes the kb with :/09:36
dogmatic69oimon: would it be [61650.020019] wlan0: authentication with c0:d0:44:48:e7:b5 timed out09:42
dogmatic69oimon: this is the last bit of dmesg http://bin.cakephp.org/view/162503982609:44
dogmatic69funny how it connected right before I plugged the kb in09:44
czajkowskialoha09:53
czajkowskihave some nice easy Lp questions if folks wnat to help09:53
czajkowskihttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19592709:53
czajkowskihttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19589809:53
bigcalmczajkowski: you have slashdotted the lp database10:04
czajkowskinah time of day for maintence10:05
davmor2morning all10:13
davmor2prod czajkowski10:13
czajkowskipoke10:13
davmor2czajkowski: have a hug10:15
bigcalmMorning davmor2, how's your health?10:25
davmor2bigcalm: much better, still a fair bit of pain but I got a lot of movement back, thanks you?10:26
bigcalmdavmor2: glad to hear that you're recovering. I'm ok ta, have that Friday feeling but too much to do as well10:27
davmor2bigcalm: yeah but mondays is a day off too so that was nice10:28
bigcalmAye10:28
bigcalmOr will be nice10:28
AlanBellmorning all10:37
AlanBellfrom the London Mozspace :)10:37
brobostigonmorning AlanBell10:37
matttmorning guys10:37
brobostigonmorning mattt10:38
matttbrobostigon: how you this morning?10:39
brobostigonmattt: headache the size of saturn. and you?10:40
matttbrobostigon: off this week, so doing alright :)10:40
davmor2AlanBell: That sounds like a fantastic name for a geek night club10:40
brobostigonmattt: :)10:41
matttAlanBell: is that place open to the public?10:41
AlanBellopen to geeks :)10:42
AlanBellit is really good10:42
matttfree to use?  :P10:42
AlanBellhttp://thenextweb.com/uk/2012/03/23/a-look-inside-mozillas-new-london-co-working-space/10:42
AlanBellyeah, it is amazing10:43
matttwow, looks great10:44
matttgreat place for meetups, etc. too10:44
ali1234http://cdn.thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/03/bikeshed200.jpg i don't like this sign10:46
ali1234it should be blue10:46
BigRedSblue?10:48
bigcalmOrange isn't an Ubuntu exclusive colour you know :P10:49
Myrttiali1234: haha10:49
AlanBellbut I think someone should paint it green10:52
directhextee hee @ ali123410:52
gordonjcpali1234: heh ;-)10:52
AlanBellit looks exactly like that with the same one bike on the wall10:52
AlanBellthis place is quite empty but very nicely finished10:53
brobostigonit seems con-dem, have kinda took the hit, i predicted yesterday.11:06
brobostigonand some labour and green increases.11:08
bigcalmGetting this as a daily email from my proliant server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/966685/11:17
bigcalmNot sure what I need to do11:17
BigRedSbigcalm: check what the postrotate script for mysql does and see why it's failing11:18
BigRedS/etc/logrotate.d/mysql  will have the script in it11:18
BigRedSer .../mysql-server11:19
cesarsdquadroshello11:20
cesarsdquadrosgive me some help here11:20
cesarsdquadrossomeone to answer?11:20
bigcalm!ask11:20
lubotu3Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:20
bigcalm!patients11:20
cesarsdquadrosi'm from brazil, working on brazilian army, we use ubuntu 10.04 lts11:21
cesarsdquadrosand when i open11:21
cesarsdquadrosthe "terminal" don't appear any word like ubuntu@ubuntudesktop ~11:21
cesarsdquadrosand i can't write anything too11:22
cesarsdquadroswhat is wrong11:22
cesarsdquadros i'm from brazil, working on brazilian army, we use ubuntu 10.04 lts  and when i open  the "terminal" don't appear any word like ubuntu@ubuntudesktop ~ and i can't write anything too  what is wrong11:23
cesarsdquadrosoh i have discover what is the mistake, is the colors of the terminal, i get use the color of the system sorry for the inconvenience. att. Pvt Quadros. 26 GAC - Brazil11:26
AlanBellni cesarsdquadros11:28
AlanBellhi even11:28
AlanBellgreat to hear that Brazil is using Ubuntu :)11:28
jpdsAlanBell: Didn't know you became a knight.11:28
AlanBellI just like to say ni11:29
bigcalmEverybody should say ni11:30
bigcalmJust don't say it11:30
cesarsdquadrosWe from brazilian army, use the ubuntu yes :D since the 9.04  and we are sattisfacted. with the evolution of linux and ubuntu debian versions, it's free! and the better OS on world11:31
bigcalm\o/11:33
bigcalmBigRedS: the debian-sys-maint user password needed updating - I had copied all of the databases from my old dev server to my new one. Including the mysql db11:39
BigRedSahhh!11:40
BigRedSyeah, that'll do it :)11:40
davmor2bigcalm: Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Zoo Boing Zow Zing11:44
bigcalmdavmor2: nasty twitch you've got there11:45
davmor2bigcalm: http://borepatch.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/we-are-no-longer-knights-who-say-ni.html11:50
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DJonesWhen people complain about Ubuntu not supporting playind DVD's OTB, can we refer them to this in future http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/45545/no-dvd-playback-for-windows-811:54
DJoness/playind/playing/11:54
BigRedSas sort-of implied in that article, do many people try to watch DVDs on a computer still?11:54
DJonesI never have, but I'm sure some do11:55
Myrttiwe even bought the Limited Edition set of Harry Potters just because it came with both DVD and Bluray12:00
MyrttiI don't have a TV or DVD player at my apartment, but I do have a DVD drive on my laptops.12:01
BigRedSyeah, I watch films on computers sometimes, I just don't use DVDs to do it12:06
shaunoI took the dvd drive out my laptop a week after I got it.  much more valuable as a second sata bay :)12:07
BigRedSAnyone know of a way to print a dump of all the code to be executed by a PHP file, including include()d code and the like?14:29
bigcalmIncludes might be conditional14:43
BigRedSyeah, but I just want a dump of the code, so I figure the entirety of the included file can go in the conditional14:45
BigRedSget_included_files does what I want, though14:46
BigRedSI was just wondering which file might be breaking a page that somebody else wrote14:46
BigRedSthough they seem to have fixed it now14:47
DJonesbigcalm: Sorry to interrupt the work, start of this video is interesting http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/9718735.stm14:55
bigcalmDJones: so the camera is on all the time to drain the battery?15:03
DJonesNot sure, I can't see it15:08
* Myrtti ♥ christel15:10
MooDoo*yawn*15:11
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* AlanBell haz many many Ubuntu 12.04 CDs16:43
* AlanBell pops to the post box with the pre-orders16:43
* AlanBell has no raspberry pi :(16:44
AlanBellpopey: did yours arrive?16:44
MartijnVdSisn't popey on the other side of the world?16:44
AlanBellyes, but if it arrived I will pop round and collect it from @therealpopey16:45
matttaww, Adam Yauch from beastie boys has passed away :(17:17
MartijnVdSMCA17:18
gordonjcpmattt: :-/17:18
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bigcalm:O :(17:48
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buzz_mattt, :(18:14
czajkowskigord: I have bickies and tea bags for you18:18
kvarleyHow would I go about doing the following? I want to find all files with a certain file extension and extract only those files from the archive. The archives are in rar format.18:39
gordonjcpwhat, extract only certain files from the archive?18:41
gordonjcphave a look at the options that unrar gives you18:41
AlanBellhttp://mulqueeny.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/buy-yourself-something-pretty/18:42
AlanBell12.04 loco CDs have arrived, if you want one then you can have one http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/18:48
zleapcool18:48
kvarleygordonjcp: Found a forum post on it. Thanks anyway18:52
zleaphi issyl018:59
ali1234ok so win8 won't play dvds... will it play blu-ray?19:06
DJonesali1234:  For optical discs playback on new Windows 8 devices, we are going to rely on the many quality solutions on the market, which provide great experiences for both DVD and Blu-ray."19:11
ali1234so no?19:11
DJonesDoesn't look like it with out buying/installing after market software19:11
DJonesIn other words: If you want to watch that Bridesmaids DVD on your next plane trip, you're going to have to pay extra for software that will let you play it, even if your laptop already has a DVD drive. And don't think getting Blu-ray is an option — you can't play that straight from the box, either.19:11
ali1234so in other words exactly the same as the situation on ubuntu?19:12
DJonesThat is all from http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/windows-8-dropping-ability-play-dvds-171546904.html19:12
MartijnVdSYay patent wars19:12
DJonesali1234: Yep19:12
ali1234likely this is a calculated ploy to get people to use windows marketplace19:12
ali1234they will probably "relent" 1 week after release and put something on there for free19:13
DJonesAlthough, Ubuntu may be better off, that will play non-encrypted dvds by dfault won't it, from the sound of it Win 8 won't play dvd's period19:13
ali1234thus forcing everyone to sign up19:13
DJonesOr install VLC19:13
ali1234unencrypted dvds on totem? lol19:14
ali1234VLC won't be allowed in the marketplace19:14
zleapali1234, won't that cause problems with competition laws if only certain software is allowed in there19:15
ali1234er, no?19:15
AlanBellno19:15
ali1234didn't cause problems for android or iphone or mac os19:15
ali1234or meego or ubuntu19:15
AlanBellvlc removed themselves from the apple store19:15
zleapok19:16
AlanBellhttp://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/08/vlc-app-removed-from-app-store/19:16
ali1234well yes19:17
AlanBellbit more complicated than I stated19:17
ali1234if apple or microsoft says "you can't put GPL software in the app store"19:17
ali1234then the developer has a choice between relicencing or removing it from the app store19:17
ali1234intel's appup T&C are really bizarre19:19
ali1234they have standard stuff that makes it impossible to ship GPL software19:19
MartijnVdSYeah, imagine19:19
ali1234then a clause which completely contradicts all that and basically says "oh yeah btw you can put GPL software in here too"19:19
ali1234so basically their T&C is not internally inconsistent19:20
ali1234and it happened because someone pointed out that the T&C would prevent GPL, so they just slapped a band aid on it19:20
MartijnVdSbecause GPLs are teh evals!19:21
funkyHatSounds like an exception rather than an inconsistency19:29
AzelphurfunkyHat: the GPL says stuff that conflicts with the license, so if you allow one of them has to be nullified19:30
ali1234http://create.msdn.com/downloads/?id=638 see sections 1. L and 5. E19:33
matttanyone buy any oreilly books today?20:59
popeyivanka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/98408821:05
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 984088 in linux (Ubuntu) "Upon resuming from suspend messages appear in tty" [Medium,Triaged]21:05
AlanBellnight all22:29
brobostigonnight AlanBell o/22:29
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