janolap1 | Hi there, I'm using (with great amusement) Ubuntu Studio 12.04 ! Great job ! | 12:58 |
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janolap1 | I would like to know how to edit the xfce menu, because Yoshimi should be sarted with the -a parameter to have access to midi keyboards, and I would like to change the menu to do this. | 12:59 |
janolap1 | Can you help me ? | 12:59 |
len-dt | janolap1, That is not a menu function. | 13:10 |
len-dt | Just missed... | 13:11 |
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average_guy | Need help setting up a fresh ubuntustudio 12.04 install w/Sound Blaster Audigy SE. Is it possible to get it to work with JACK? | 16:34 |
holstein | average_guy: should "just work" | 16:34 |
average_guy | I agree | 16:34 |
average_guy | :( | 16:34 |
holstein | if you are not familiar with JACK, that will be the only issue | 16:34 |
holstein | you can open a terminal and run | 16:34 |
average_guy | yeah, not at all | 16:34 |
holstein | aplay -l | 16:34 |
holstein | if you see the card in that list, then JACK can use it | 16:35 |
average_guy | ok | 16:35 |
holstein | other than that, i say, ask yourself, do you need JACK? | 16:35 |
holstein | its typically overkill for most cases | 16:35 |
holstein | running JACK as root is an easy way to troubleshoot permissions errors | 16:35 |
holstein | i suggest running from a terminal... | 16:36 |
holstein | gksudo qjackctl | 16:36 |
holstein | i suggest either removing or disabling other soundcards | 16:36 |
holstein | i suggest not expecting much from that device | 16:36 |
holstein | i personally would not spend too much time trying to make that card work, since at best, it'll be sub-par | 16:37 |
holstein | its not designed for getting audio into the computer, which is arguably one of the best excuses for using JACK | 16:37 |
holstein | if you are interested in JACK for its routing capabilities, i suggest trying the package "pavucontrol" | 16:38 |
average_guy | I just want to be able to check out ardour. I do record with cubase a lot, I just don't have an interface at the moment. | 16:39 |
average_guy | it won't load :( | 16:39 |
holstein | average_guy: you should be able to do that from the live CD | 16:39 |
holstein | average_guy: it? | 16:39 |
holstein | JACK? | 16:39 |
holstein | the audio device? | 16:39 |
holstein | which device? | 16:39 |
holstein | what to you mean by "load"? | 16:39 |
holstein | nothing really "loads" | 16:39 |
holstein | !imagebin | 16:40 |
ubottu | Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. | 16:40 |
holstein | you should be able to start JCK with the live CD using the internal sound card | 16:40 |
holstein | i would not sweat setting up that SB | 16:40 |
holstein | just go with whatever is working by default | 16:40 |
holstein | whatever is easy | 16:41 |
average_guy | it does work Live I believe. But why not once installed? | 16:41 |
holstein | average_guy: are you running as root temporarily? | 16:41 |
average_guy | no | 16:41 |
holstein | its likely permissions as a mentioned earlier | 16:41 |
average_guy | hmm | 16:42 |
holstein | i would *literally* open a terminal and type | 16:42 |
holstein | gksudo qjackctl | 16:42 |
holstein | if JACK starts then, we can troubleshoot from there | 16:42 |
holstein | the live user has permissions | 16:42 |
holstein | your user may not | 16:42 |
holstein | if you just want to "see ardour" do it from the live CD | 16:43 |
holstein | go with what is easy and working | 16:43 |
holstein | the workflow can be overwhelming, and right now, you dont need it | 16:43 |
average_guy | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/screenshot0504201212440.png/ | 16:48 |
average_guy | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/screenshot0504201212431.png/ | 16:48 |
holstein | average_guy: yeah.. you dont start ardour | 16:49 |
holstein | you close *everything* | 16:49 |
holstein | then, you open JACK... try and start it | 16:49 |
holstein | if that fails, then you open a terminal and run.. | 16:49 |
average_guy | sounds like good advice, will use LiveCD | 16:49 |
holstein | gksudo qjackctl | 16:49 |
holstein | if it starts (it being JACK, not ardour) then you know you have a permissions issue we can troubleshoot | 16:50 |
holstein | THEN, when JACK is starting and stopping at your command, *then* you can use ardour | 16:50 |
holstein | otherwise, we are troubleshooting several things at once, and have no way of isolaling | 16:50 |
average_guy | yeah, I did tha gksudo. The pic in link #2 was the result | 16:50 |
holstein | isolating* | 16:50 |
holstein | OK.. so you troubleshoot as root | 16:51 |
holstein | you either have JACK running somewhere else, or you are not choosing the device properly | 16:51 |
holstein | when it starts as root, you know you have the config correct, and you can move on to starting as normal user | 16:52 |
average_guy | choosing the device? | 16:52 |
holstein | average_guy: correct | 16:52 |
holstein | average_guy: as i asked before... if you have multilple devices (and now i see you do) you should either disable or remove the other ones, or you'll need to learn how to choose it from JACK | 16:53 |
holstein | average_guy: personally, i would just use the one that works, because the SB is not much better than an internal card | 16:53 |
average_guy | there is no internal | 16:54 |
average_guy | i am on a server | 16:54 |
average_guy | with a pci sound card | 16:54 |
average_guy | and a pci video card | 16:54 |
average_guy | and it sees both | 16:54 |
holstein | average_guy: theres a list there in aplay -l | 16:54 |
average_guy | i think | 16:54 |
holstein | those are the audio devices | 16:54 |
holstein | average_guy: you cant "think".. you need to know in order to tell JACK | 16:55 |
holstein | or again, just use the live CD... if that "just worked" | 16:55 |
average_guy | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/screenshot0504201212570.png/ | 16:58 |
average_guy | should I be disabeling? | 16:58 |
average_guy | what? how? | 16:59 |
holstein | when im using JACK, i like to have one audio device | 16:59 |
average_guy | Will the LiveCD really perform? I was scared to try it | 16:59 |
holstein | i do that in the bios if possible, or by physically removing hardwrae | 16:59 |
holstein | average_guy: it literally wont hurt to try the live CD.. if it doesn "perform", reboot and try something elst | 16:59 |
holstein | else* | 17:00 |
average_guy | well, this is the something else, really.. can you see the terminal in the screenshot? Does that say more then one audio device? I have no idea what I am looking at | 17:01 |
holstein | average_guy: yes | 17:02 |
holstein | theres even one for your graphics card, AFAICT | 17:02 |
average_guy | so my video card does audio | 17:02 |
holstein | average_guy: which is all fine, and useable | 17:02 |
holstein | you just have to learn how to tell JACK to use whatever device you want it to use | 17:02 |
holstein | which is in a drop down menu in "setup" | 17:03 |
holstein | again, it literally doesnt hurt to try them all | 17:03 |
average_guy | so if i take out the video, and got to onboard crappy server graphics, the sound will work? | 17:03 |
holstein | i cant really help you without seeing first hand, and i usually just go ahead and try them all as root | 17:03 |
holstein | average_guy: sound will "work" now | 17:03 |
holstein | average_guy: it will be easier for you to get JACK started with one device | 17:03 |
average_guy | this graphics card sux anyway | 17:04 |
average_guy | I not a gamer | 17:04 |
average_guy | but then JACK will do ok with the SB card | 17:04 |
average_guy | ? | 17:05 |
holstein | average_guy: i personally dont have a need for that device | 17:05 |
holstein | will it work? sure.. is it worth any hassle? no | 17:05 |
holstein | is it much better than an internal device? no | 17:05 |
average_guy | you keep saying "internal". I have no internal sound. There is no speaker output other then the one on the SB card | 17:07 |
average_guy | and I don't see it on the aplay list | 17:07 |
holstein | average_guy: OK | 17:07 |
holstein | average_guy: whatever little crap card you might find for $2 that would "just work" easily | 17:08 |
holstein | average_guy: or might have laying around | 17:08 |
average_guy | that is what this is | 17:08 |
holstein | if you have trouble with the SB, take it out and try another one | 17:08 |
average_guy | i have dozens | 17:08 |
holstein | sure | 17:08 |
holstein | i say, try a hardware scenario that is easy and "just works" | 17:08 |
holstein | none of those cards are going to be great | 17:08 |
average_guy | yeah.. | 17:08 |
holstein | it might as well be easy | 17:08 |
average_guy | I know | 17:08 |
average_guy | ok | 17:08 |
average_guy | thank holstein | 17:09 |
average_guy | *thx | 17:09 |
janolap1 | hi there, i'm in ubuntu studio 12.04. I have a midi keyboard and i want to record the midi notes I'm playing. I tried to do it under qtractor without success. Is there a simple program to do this ? | 19:28 |
len-dt | janolap1, I didn't think qtractor was that hard. Can you get your keyboard to make sound on one of the internal synths? | 19:34 |
janolap1 | Ooops, I think I made a beginner mistake : I didn't connect my midi synth to qtractor using jack... | 19:35 |
len-dt | janolap1, That was where I was going. | 19:36 |
janolap1 | thanx... | 19:37 |
janolap1 | sorry... | 19:37 |
len-dt | No problem, I am glad it works for you. | 19:37 |
studio-user831 | neato. | 20:40 |
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