[12:58] <janolap1> Hi there, I'm using (with great amusement) Ubuntu Studio 12.04 ! Great job !
[12:59] <janolap1> I would like to know how to edit the xfce menu, because Yoshimi should be sarted with the -a parameter to have access to midi keyboards, and I would like to change the menu to do this.
[12:59] <janolap1> Can you help me ?
[13:10] <len-dt> janolap1, That is not a menu function.
[13:11] <len-dt> Just missed...
[16:34] <average_guy> Need help setting up a fresh ubuntustudio 12.04 install w/Sound Blaster Audigy SE.  Is it possible to get it to work with JACK?
[16:34] <holstein> average_guy: should "just work"
[16:34] <average_guy> I agree
[16:34] <average_guy> :(
[16:34] <holstein> if you are not familiar with JACK, that will be the only issue
[16:34] <holstein> you can open a terminal and run
[16:34] <average_guy> yeah, not at all
[16:34] <holstein> aplay -l
[16:35] <holstein> if you see the card in that list, then JACK can use it
[16:35] <average_guy> ok
[16:35] <holstein> other than that, i say, ask yourself, do you need JACK?
[16:35] <holstein> its typically overkill for most cases
[16:35] <holstein> running JACK as root is an easy way to troubleshoot permissions errors
[16:36] <holstein> i suggest running from a terminal...
[16:36] <holstein> gksudo qjackctl
[16:36] <holstein> i suggest either removing or disabling other soundcards
[16:36] <holstein> i suggest not expecting much from that device
[16:37] <holstein> i personally would not spend too much time trying to make that card work, since at best, it'll be sub-par
[16:37] <holstein> its not designed for getting audio into the computer, which is arguably one of the best excuses for using JACK
[16:38] <holstein> if you are interested in JACK for its routing capabilities, i suggest trying the package "pavucontrol"
[16:39] <average_guy> I just want to be able to check out ardour.  I do record with cubase a lot, I just don't have an interface at the moment.
[16:39] <average_guy> it won't load :(
[16:39] <holstein> average_guy: you should be able to do that from the live CD
[16:39] <holstein> average_guy: it?
[16:39] <holstein> JACK?
[16:39] <holstein> the audio device?
[16:39] <holstein> which device?
[16:39] <holstein> what to you mean by "load"?
[16:39] <holstein> nothing really "loads"
[16:40] <holstein> !imagebin
[16:40] <holstein> you should be able to start JCK with the live CD using the internal sound card
[16:40] <holstein> i would not sweat setting up that SB
[16:40] <holstein> just go with whatever is working by default
[16:41] <holstein> whatever is easy
[16:41] <average_guy> it does work Live I believe.  But why not once installed?
[16:41] <holstein> average_guy: are you running as root temporarily?
[16:41] <average_guy> no
[16:41] <holstein> its likely permissions as a mentioned earlier
[16:42] <average_guy> hmm
[16:42] <holstein> i would *literally* open a terminal and type
[16:42] <holstein> gksudo qjackctl
[16:42] <holstein> if JACK starts then, we can troubleshoot from there
[16:42] <holstein> the live user has permissions
[16:42] <holstein> your user may not
[16:43] <holstein> if you just want to "see ardour" do it from the live CD
[16:43] <holstein> go with what is easy and working
[16:43] <holstein> the workflow can be overwhelming, and right now, you dont need it
[16:48] <average_guy> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/screenshot0504201212440.png/
[16:48] <average_guy> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/screenshot0504201212431.png/
[16:49] <holstein> average_guy: yeah.. you dont start ardour
[16:49] <holstein> you close *everything*
[16:49] <holstein> then, you open JACK... try and start it
[16:49] <holstein> if that fails, then you open a terminal and run..
[16:49] <average_guy> sounds like good advice, will use LiveCD
[16:49] <holstein> gksudo qjackctl
[16:50] <holstein> if it starts (it being JACK, not ardour) then you know you have a permissions issue we can troubleshoot
[16:50] <holstein> THEN, when JACK is starting and stopping at your command, *then* you can use ardour
[16:50] <holstein> otherwise, we are troubleshooting several things at once, and have no way of isolaling
[16:50] <average_guy> yeah, I did tha gksudo.  The pic in link #2 was the result
[16:50] <holstein> isolating*
[16:51] <holstein> OK.. so you troubleshoot as root
[16:51] <holstein> you either have JACK running somewhere else, or you are not choosing the device properly
[16:52] <holstein> when it starts as root, you know you have the config correct, and you can move on to starting as normal user
[16:52] <average_guy> choosing the device?
[16:52] <holstein> average_guy: correct
[16:53] <holstein> average_guy: as i asked before... if you have multilple devices (and now i see you do) you should either disable or remove the other ones, or you'll need to learn how to choose it from JACK
[16:53] <holstein> average_guy: personally, i would just use the one that works, because the SB is not much better than an internal card
[16:54] <average_guy> there is no internal
[16:54] <average_guy> i am on a server
[16:54] <average_guy> with a pci sound card
[16:54] <average_guy> and a pci video card
[16:54] <average_guy> and it sees both
[16:54] <holstein> average_guy: theres a list there in aplay -l
[16:54] <average_guy> i think
[16:54] <holstein> those are the audio devices
[16:55] <holstein> average_guy: you cant "think".. you need to know in order to tell JACK
[16:55] <holstein> or again, just use the live CD... if that "just worked"
[16:58] <average_guy> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/screenshot0504201212570.png/
[16:58] <average_guy> should I be disabeling?
[16:59] <average_guy> what?  how?
[16:59] <holstein> when im using JACK, i like to have one audio device
[16:59] <average_guy> Will the LiveCD really perform? I was scared to try it
[16:59] <holstein> i do that in the bios if possible, or by physically removing hardwrae
[16:59] <holstein> average_guy: it literally wont hurt to try the live CD.. if it doesn "perform", reboot and try something elst
[17:00] <holstein> else*
[17:01] <average_guy> well, this is the something else, really.. can you see the terminal in the screenshot?  Does that say more then one audio device?  I have no idea what I am looking at
[17:02] <holstein> average_guy: yes
[17:02] <holstein> theres even one for your graphics card, AFAICT
[17:02] <average_guy> so my video card does audio
[17:02] <holstein> average_guy: which is all fine, and useable
[17:02] <holstein> you just have to learn how to tell JACK to use whatever device you want it to use
[17:03] <holstein> which is in a drop down menu in "setup"
[17:03] <holstein> again, it literally doesnt hurt to try them all
[17:03] <average_guy> so if i take out the video, and got to onboard crappy server graphics, the sound will work?
[17:03] <holstein> i cant really help you without seeing first hand, and i usually just go ahead and try them all as root
[17:03] <holstein> average_guy: sound will "work" now
[17:03] <holstein> average_guy: it will be easier for you to get JACK started with one device
[17:04] <average_guy> this graphics card sux anyway
[17:04] <average_guy> I not a gamer
[17:04] <average_guy> but then JACK will do ok with the SB card
[17:05] <average_guy> ?
[17:05] <holstein> average_guy: i personally dont have a need for that device
[17:05] <holstein> will it work? sure.. is it worth any hassle? no
[17:05] <holstein> is it much better than an internal device? no
[17:07] <average_guy> you keep saying "internal". I have no internal sound. There is no speaker output other then the one on the SB card
[17:07] <average_guy> and I don't see it on the aplay list
[17:07] <holstein> average_guy: OK
[17:08] <holstein> average_guy: whatever little crap card you might find for $2 that would "just work" easily
[17:08] <holstein> average_guy: or might have laying around
[17:08] <average_guy> that is what this is
[17:08] <holstein> if you have trouble with the SB, take it out and try another one
[17:08] <average_guy> i have dozens
[17:08] <holstein> sure
[17:08] <holstein> i say, try a hardware scenario that is easy and "just works"
[17:08] <holstein> none of those cards are going to be great
[17:08] <average_guy> yeah..
[17:08] <holstein> it might as well be easy
[17:08] <average_guy> I know
[17:08] <average_guy> ok
[17:09] <average_guy> thank holstein
[17:09] <average_guy> *thx
[19:28] <janolap1> hi there, i'm in ubuntu studio 12.04. I have a midi keyboard and i want to record the midi notes I'm playing. I tried to do it under qtractor without success. Is there a simple program to do this ?
[19:34] <len-dt> janolap1, I didn't think qtractor was that hard. Can you get your keyboard to make sound on one of the internal synths?
[19:35] <janolap1> Ooops, I think I made a beginner mistake : I didn't connect my midi synth to qtractor using jack...
[19:36] <len-dt> janolap1, That was where I was going.
[19:37] <janolap1> thanx...
[19:37] <janolap1> sorry...
[19:37] <len-dt> No problem, I am glad it works for you.
[20:40] <studio-user831> neato.