[12:58] Hi there, I'm using (with great amusement) Ubuntu Studio 12.04 ! Great job ! [12:59] I would like to know how to edit the xfce menu, because Yoshimi should be sarted with the -a parameter to have access to midi keyboards, and I would like to change the menu to do this. [12:59] Can you help me ? [13:10] janolap1, That is not a menu function. [13:11] Just missed... === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat [16:34] Need help setting up a fresh ubuntustudio 12.04 install w/Sound Blaster Audigy SE. Is it possible to get it to work with JACK? [16:34] average_guy: should "just work" [16:34] I agree [16:34] :( [16:34] if you are not familiar with JACK, that will be the only issue [16:34] you can open a terminal and run [16:34] yeah, not at all [16:34] aplay -l [16:35] if you see the card in that list, then JACK can use it [16:35] ok [16:35] other than that, i say, ask yourself, do you need JACK? [16:35] its typically overkill for most cases [16:35] running JACK as root is an easy way to troubleshoot permissions errors [16:36] i suggest running from a terminal... [16:36] gksudo qjackctl [16:36] i suggest either removing or disabling other soundcards [16:36] i suggest not expecting much from that device [16:37] i personally would not spend too much time trying to make that card work, since at best, it'll be sub-par [16:37] its not designed for getting audio into the computer, which is arguably one of the best excuses for using JACK [16:38] if you are interested in JACK for its routing capabilities, i suggest trying the package "pavucontrol" [16:39] I just want to be able to check out ardour. I do record with cubase a lot, I just don't have an interface at the moment. [16:39] it won't load :( [16:39] average_guy: you should be able to do that from the live CD [16:39] average_guy: it? [16:39] JACK? [16:39] the audio device? [16:39] which device? [16:39] what to you mean by "load"? [16:39] nothing really "loads" [16:40] !imagebin [16:40] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [16:40] you should be able to start JCK with the live CD using the internal sound card [16:40] i would not sweat setting up that SB [16:40] just go with whatever is working by default [16:41] whatever is easy [16:41] it does work Live I believe. But why not once installed? [16:41] average_guy: are you running as root temporarily? [16:41] no [16:41] its likely permissions as a mentioned earlier [16:42] hmm [16:42] i would *literally* open a terminal and type [16:42] gksudo qjackctl [16:42] if JACK starts then, we can troubleshoot from there [16:42] the live user has permissions [16:42] your user may not [16:43] if you just want to "see ardour" do it from the live CD [16:43] go with what is easy and working [16:43] the workflow can be overwhelming, and right now, you dont need it [16:48] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/screenshot0504201212440.png/ [16:48] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/screenshot0504201212431.png/ [16:49] average_guy: yeah.. you dont start ardour [16:49] you close *everything* [16:49] then, you open JACK... try and start it [16:49] if that fails, then you open a terminal and run.. [16:49] sounds like good advice, will use LiveCD [16:49] gksudo qjackctl [16:50] if it starts (it being JACK, not ardour) then you know you have a permissions issue we can troubleshoot [16:50] THEN, when JACK is starting and stopping at your command, *then* you can use ardour [16:50] otherwise, we are troubleshooting several things at once, and have no way of isolaling [16:50] yeah, I did tha gksudo. The pic in link #2 was the result [16:50] isolating* [16:51] OK.. so you troubleshoot as root [16:51] you either have JACK running somewhere else, or you are not choosing the device properly [16:52] when it starts as root, you know you have the config correct, and you can move on to starting as normal user [16:52] choosing the device? [16:52] average_guy: correct [16:53] average_guy: as i asked before... if you have multilple devices (and now i see you do) you should either disable or remove the other ones, or you'll need to learn how to choose it from JACK [16:53] average_guy: personally, i would just use the one that works, because the SB is not much better than an internal card [16:54] there is no internal [16:54] i am on a server [16:54] with a pci sound card [16:54] and a pci video card [16:54] and it sees both [16:54] average_guy: theres a list there in aplay -l [16:54] i think [16:54] those are the audio devices [16:55] average_guy: you cant "think".. you need to know in order to tell JACK [16:55] or again, just use the live CD... if that "just worked" [16:58] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/screenshot0504201212570.png/ [16:58] should I be disabeling? [16:59] what? how? [16:59] when im using JACK, i like to have one audio device [16:59] Will the LiveCD really perform? I was scared to try it [16:59] i do that in the bios if possible, or by physically removing hardwrae [16:59] average_guy: it literally wont hurt to try the live CD.. if it doesn "perform", reboot and try something elst [17:00] else* [17:01] well, this is the something else, really.. can you see the terminal in the screenshot? Does that say more then one audio device? I have no idea what I am looking at [17:02] average_guy: yes [17:02] theres even one for your graphics card, AFAICT [17:02] so my video card does audio [17:02] average_guy: which is all fine, and useable [17:02] you just have to learn how to tell JACK to use whatever device you want it to use [17:03] which is in a drop down menu in "setup" [17:03] again, it literally doesnt hurt to try them all [17:03] so if i take out the video, and got to onboard crappy server graphics, the sound will work? [17:03] i cant really help you without seeing first hand, and i usually just go ahead and try them all as root [17:03] average_guy: sound will "work" now [17:03] average_guy: it will be easier for you to get JACK started with one device [17:04] this graphics card sux anyway [17:04] I not a gamer [17:04] but then JACK will do ok with the SB card [17:05] ? [17:05] average_guy: i personally dont have a need for that device [17:05] will it work? sure.. is it worth any hassle? no [17:05] is it much better than an internal device? no [17:07] you keep saying "internal". I have no internal sound. There is no speaker output other then the one on the SB card [17:07] and I don't see it on the aplay list [17:07] average_guy: OK [17:08] average_guy: whatever little crap card you might find for $2 that would "just work" easily [17:08] average_guy: or might have laying around [17:08] that is what this is [17:08] if you have trouble with the SB, take it out and try another one [17:08] i have dozens [17:08] sure [17:08] i say, try a hardware scenario that is easy and "just works" [17:08] none of those cards are going to be great [17:08] yeah.. [17:08] it might as well be easy [17:08] I know [17:08] ok [17:09] thank holstein [17:09] *thx [19:28] hi there, i'm in ubuntu studio 12.04. I have a midi keyboard and i want to record the midi notes I'm playing. I tried to do it under qtractor without success. Is there a simple program to do this ? [19:34] janolap1, I didn't think qtractor was that hard. Can you get your keyboard to make sound on one of the internal synths? [19:35] Ooops, I think I made a beginner mistake : I didn't connect my midi synth to qtractor using jack... [19:36] janolap1, That was where I was going. [19:37] thanx... [19:37] sorry... [19:37] No problem, I am glad it works for you. [20:40] neato.