[01:56] <xubuntu148> hey. what is different between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[02:00] <pleia2> xubuntu148: different desktop environment and default applications
[02:00] <xubuntu148> in your opinion better or worse?
[02:01] <pleia2> it depends on the user
[02:02] <xubuntu148> How do you mean?
[02:05] <pleia2> everyone has their own preferences, one is not "better" than the other
[02:08] <xubuntu346> hello all
[02:18] <caliche> hi
[02:19] <Unit193> !hi
[02:20] <caliche> i'm new in the world of free software
[02:21] <xubuntu346> thank you
[02:23] <caliche> not speak English
[04:42] <xubuntu416> Hello
[04:44] <Guest52352> need helpz, xubuntu problem
[04:44] <Unit193> !ask
[04:45] <Guest52352> i have a 38 gb hard drive, installed xubuntu, it says 4.1 gb free space is left
[04:46] <Guest52352> in "file system" folder
[04:46] <Unit193> Type  df -h  in a terminal window.
[04:47] <Unit193> /dev/sda1           36G   16G   18G  48% /    Is example output from mine.
[04:48] <Guest52352> mine says 36g 30g 4.2g 88%
[04:49] <Unit193> Did you download anything big or somesuch?
[04:50] <Guest52352> no
[04:50] <Guest52352> i updated and stuff, downloaded a few songs, nothing big
[04:51] <Unit193> du -xk | sort -n | tail -20    That'll show you the 20 biggest dirs on the filesystem.
[04:54] <Psykus> grr, had an awesome look going on my old xubuntu install, now can't remember what themes I used, though I have a screenshot. really should have backed things up
[04:55] <Unit193> Heh, that's typically a good idea, though now you have to look for ones that work with GTK2 and GTK3.
[04:56] <Psykus> http://i.imgur.com/x7OHt.png
[04:57] <Unit193> Not much I can say other than "Looks great", and "Did you check xfce-look and gnome-look?"
[04:57] <Psykus> it might be atolm with a different window decoration...yeah i'm looking around now
[04:57] <Unit193> Fri, 04 May 2012 00:57:49 -0400
[04:57] <Unit193> Woops, wrong button. >_>
[05:08] <foobArrr> why is there "Greybird" and "greybird" in my theme list?
[05:09] <Unit193> One is a symlink to be compatible with upgrades.
[05:10] <Unit193> ls -l /usr/share/themes |grep -i greybird
[06:47] <Jonne_> anyone know how to properly get compiz to autostart with the session? i put it both in xfce4-session.xml and application startup, but it still won't start with it enabled half the time
[08:20] <Kingsy> guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
[08:29] <xuserx> hello
[08:29] <xuserx> :)
[08:31] <mips1911> hi
[08:39] <xuserx> can anyone help me ? i want to use ubuntu customization kit to remaster a xubuntu12.04 .iso but i have the same error >>>>Failed to copy resolv.conf, error=1
[08:40] <xuserx> does anyone know how can i fix that error?
[08:40] <xuserx> please help me
[08:40] <xuserx> :-D
[08:41] <xuserx> any ideas?
[08:42] <xuserx> this is the build.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/966443/
[08:44] <xuserx> can you help me?
[08:54] <xuserx> can you help me?
[08:55] <mips1911> sorry, no idea
[08:56] <xuserx> i tried uck 2.4.6 but the same error
[08:57] <xuserx> 2.4.6 svn
[08:57] <xuserx> *
[10:43] <malv> does anyone know how to fix right click slowness issues?
[10:44] <malv> nm, figured it out
[10:45]  * taxman smashes malv's head with a super fast pendrive
[11:08] <scarecrow> hey guys, i have a trouble running compiz+emerald on xubuntu 12.04. Windows decoration doesn't work, can i fix that?
[11:10] <ochosi> scarecrow: i think emerald is quite a dead project
[11:11] <ochosi> scarecrow: apart from that, you can try to set /usr/bin/emerald (or whatever the command was) in compizconfig-settingsmanager (or whatever it's called) in the window-decoration setting
[11:11] <ochosi> scarecrow: or just try alt+f2 "emerald --replace"
[11:12] <scarecrow> i tried that, no success, i will try the first one, the interesting think is that working on 11.10
[11:12] <ochosi> as i said, it's a dead project, so there are a gazillion possible reasons for it to stop working
[11:12] <ochosi> compiz otoh is actively developed for ubuntu
[11:13] <ochosi> you can also try to use metacity instead
[11:13] <ochosi> (our default theme has both, emerald and metacity support)
[11:16] <aquix> so I can use metacity to get compiz working with xfce?
[11:16] <scarecrow> thanks ochosi, i will try now
[11:17] <ochosi> aquix: yes (or compiz-gnome, as the package is called, iirc)
[11:17] <ochosi> scarecrow: good luck
[11:19] <aquix> hmm. I'll look into it. Compiled emerald and it's running fine. Thanks for the tip
[11:23] <ochosi> aquix: in my experience metacity is more stable than emerald, that's why i wouldn't recommend emerald to anyone
[11:25] <aquix> I'm a newcommer to xfce from mint 11 and was confused by using metacity with compiz, but it's a better solution. I know emerald is unsupported.
[11:29] <aquix> xubuntu 12.04 is such a sweet release. I have run it since it came out and are very impressed..
[11:29] <aquix> and I can't stop saying so :)
[11:43] <Kingsy> guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
[12:03] <metals> hi
[12:03] <metals> I just downloaded Calibri font but it doesn't have any install button
[12:03] <metals> where can I add that?
[12:03] <Myrtti> copy it into your .fonts directory
[12:04] <metals> where is it?
[12:04] <metals> how can I reach such folders?
[12:05] <Myrtti> it's in your homedirectory, it's a hidden directory
[12:06] <drc> either in /usr/share/fonts or ~/.fonts...to see the hidden dirs in thunar, CTRL H
[12:06] <drc> and probably you'll have to make the ~/.fonts, I don't think its there by default
[12:07] <drc> HINT:  It's NOT ~/.fontconfig :)
[12:11] <Voverius> Hallo!
[12:11] <metals> drc: couldn't find it
[12:11] <drc> metals: couldn't find which one?
[12:11] <Voverius> It's possible to install XFCE 4.10 on Xubuntu 12.04?
[12:11] <metals> drc: the folder
 folder?  The one in /usr/fonts or the home directory?
[12:12] <metals> I found Home
[12:12] <mips1911> Voverius, soon the packages are still building, 9 left to go
[12:12] <metals> but not /usr and stuff
[12:13] <drc> mips1911: Still in the holding pattern on the install?  :)
[12:13] <mips1911> Voverius, https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa once all thepackages are finished building
[12:13] <mips1911> drc, yip and keeping an eye on those package builds
[12:13] <metals> drc: can't I just search that?
[12:13] <drc> metals: Read my earlier post...You'll have to make the .folder in the home directory
[12:14] <drc> opps .fonts folder
[12:17] <mips1911> ooh, 6 packages to go!
[12:17] <drc> so...tomorrow ? -)
[12:18] <aquix> metals, make a folder called    .fonts  in your home directory, if you don't have it alreaduy .. then run this command in the terminal          sudo fc-cache -fv
[12:18] <drc> metals: Have you made the new folder?
[12:19] <mips1911> noooo, xfwm failed to build
[12:19] <metals> drc: yeah, and I pasted the fonts there
[12:19] <metals> drc: I can see that in the word processor
[12:20] <drc> so...the font works for you?
[12:20] <aquix> metals, in terminal to refresh the fonts                 sudo fc-cache -fv
[12:20] <metals> drc: thanks, yeh
[12:20] <metals> aquix: thanks
[12:20] <metals> aquix: I did that in the Terminal
[12:21] <drc> The Mission Accomplished...it's Miller Time (tm)
[12:21] <aquix> then the font should show up.
[12:21] <drc> aquix: it did :)
[12:21] <aquix> thats a good thing :)
[12:21] <metals> :)
[12:21] <metals> one other thing
[12:21] <metals> I want Persian as well
[12:22] <metals> I mean Layout
[12:22] <aquix> a rug?
[12:22] <metals> no, cat :)
[12:22] <aquix> a rug?:)
[12:22] <metals> Keyboard layout
[12:22] <aquix> lol
[12:22] <metals> :D
[12:22] <drc> too much hair, gets in the keyboard
[12:22] <metals> :D
[12:22] <metals> cool people here
[12:22] <metals> :D
[12:23] <aquix> indeed
[12:23] <metals> I can't find it in the Control Panel
[12:23] <aquix> I know little about keyboard layouts, but it should be in settings
[12:24] <drc> I'm ignorant as well
[12:26] <aquix> yeah, it's in the settings under keyboard. I use english for the system but have a norwegian keyboard layout, but I set it during install and haven't really thought about it.
[12:26] <metals> found it
[12:26] <metals> thanks
[12:26] <metals> first Kubuntu
[12:26] <metals> then Ubuntu
[12:27] <metals> and today Xubuntu
[12:27] <metals> :D
[12:27] <metals> Xubuntu seems good
[12:27] <metals> better than Ubuntu
[12:27] <drc> Can't make up your mind?
[12:27] <drc> :)
[12:27] <aquix> it is. I came from mint 11
[12:27] <aquix> as long as it's a buntu :P
[12:27] <metals> Ubuntu wouldn't go on Stand By
[12:27] <metals> I was on Mint Lisa as well
[12:28] <metals> Lisa is classy but... weak
[12:28] <metals> I am very new to Linux
[12:28] <drc> metals: 12.04 'buntus all have hibernation disabled by default, if that's what you meant
[12:28] <metals> I was Microsoft's slave for a ong ime
[12:28] <aquix> yeah. xfce is my saviour as a gnome 2 refugee :)
[12:28] <metals> no
[12:28] <metals> Stand By
[12:28] <metals> Suspend?
[12:29] <drc> ah, that should work
[12:29] <metals> Suspend ya may say
[12:29] <metals> it would turn off for a second and would come back
[12:30] <aquix> 3 choises I think. suspend, hibernate and turning of the screen.
[12:32] <slim_> hello all, i have 2 language installed but i can' find how to enable language input switcher, ?
[12:32] <slim_> i'm using xubuntu 12.04
[12:34] <metals> slim_ have ya restarted your machine afterwards?
[12:36] <slim_> metals: not yet i try now
[12:36] <metals> OK
[12:36] <metals> Standing By
[12:38] <aquix> have I said I love xubuntu 12.04 lately?
[12:38] <aquix> awesome release
[12:39] <drc> it'll do....
[12:41] <metals_> shit
[12:41] <metals_> it doesn't suspend on Xubumtu as well
[12:41] <metals_> :(
[12:42] <drc> it's your machine/setup...works on mine
[12:42] <metals> I have a deasktop
[12:42] <metals> worked well on Kubuntu
[12:42] <metals> nor on Ubuntu nor this
[12:51] <Kingsy> guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
[12:55] <aquix> Kingsy, no idea. do you run compiz btw?
[12:56] <Kingsy> aquix: nope
[12:56] <aquix> it's weird alright. I have noe idea how to fix it.
[12:57] <aquix> Kingsy, ever watched the tv serie Kings?
[12:57] <Kingsy> nope
[12:58] <aquix> it's a good show. well worth a watch.
[13:27] <starn>  have they fixed gstreamer in 12.04 yet?
[13:56] <craigbass1976> I had a lucid to precise upgrade go terribly wrong yesterday.  After a reinstall, I'm almost back up.  How the blazes to I get a custom app launcher (it's going to point at a shell script) into a panel?
[14:02] <Wizard> Hi!
[14:02] <craigbass1976> Wizard, Hey!
[14:03] <Wizard> craigbass1976: Rigth click on a panel, select "Launcher"
[14:03] <craigbass1976> Are you saying that's how to add the launcher I'm after?
[14:03] <Wizard> Yes.
[14:04] <Wizard> It is possible to choose existing (system provided) one, or create your own.
[14:04] <Wizard> And thanks for warning, I was considering updating lucid → precise today.
[14:05] <craigbass1976> Wizard, it might go fine for you.  I find that over the course of an Ubuntu instance, I end up having to grab stuff from other repos and I imagine one of those is what blew me out of the water.  I do have this nice fresh feeling now, like from a fabric softener commercial, since the incident.  :)
[14:06] <Wizard> LOL
[14:06] <Wizard> craigbass1976: I have ubuntu/powerpc here, Xubuntu doesn't even provide images for ppc.
[14:06] <Wizard> So I'm a bit affraid.
[14:06] <craigbass1976> Ahh...
[14:07] <Wizard> OK, lunch, brb.
[14:12] <xubuntu735> hi how can i upgrade trough command line from 10.04 to 12.04? thx
[14:17] <drc> xubuntu735: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:19] <drc> actually https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades is more precise :)
[14:24] <drc> I can't find anything Xubuntu specific for LTS upgrading, but as the underlying system is Ubuntu, the general cavaets listed in the above link should help
[14:26] <drc> especially " It is generally recommended that users of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait until the first point release, due in July, before upgrading. ?
[14:28] <xubuntu735> i have great problem with visual upgrade (it chashes and does not start) so my solution is to use commmand line? which?
[14:38] <koegs> xubuntu735: do-release-upgrade
[14:38] <xubuntu735>  do-release-upgrade Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 10, in <module>     from UpdateManager.Core.DistUpgradeFetcherCore import DistUpgradeFetcherCore   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/DistUpgradeFetcherCore.py", line 27, in <module>     import tarfile ValueError: bad marshal data
[14:40] <xubuntu735> at line 27 import tarfile
[14:58] <xubuntu735> any solutions
[14:59] <xubuntu735> any other solutions?
[15:00] <holstein> xubuntu735: a fresh install is always a solution.. i would try from the command line
[15:10] <aquix> is there a ppa for xfce?
[15:31] <babble> aquix: there is - I'll find it for you, or I have built packages on Sourceforge
[15:33] <babble> here's Lionel Le Folgolc's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa
[15:33] <babble> My builds are here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/babble777.u/files/xfce-4.10-daily/
[15:35] <aquix> brilliant.   thanks
[15:37] <babble> aquix: if you want, mine install everything in /usr/local so you can easily roll back to the official ubuntu packages by just uninstalling one package (mine)
[15:38] <aquix> how about https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10
[15:39] <babble> that will be official when the builds actually finish
[15:39] <babble> if you look, there aren't any published packages there yet
[15:40] <aquix> yeah, saw that. I'll try one of yours. thanks
[15:40] <babble> (It may be that Lionel's source packages are different from whatever the Xubuntu dev team is doing, so changes will need to get rolled in before the dev team ppa actually publishes anything)
[15:41] <babble> in my build series, the amd64/i386 packages marked FINAL are the release code.
[15:42] <babble> (I probably need to go in and clean up the daily builds at some point)
[15:55] <tehmole> hi, everyone
[15:58] <babble> hi tehmole
[16:33] <Marzata> how do you add ntp servers in xubuntu 12.04?
[16:42] <drc> I don't see a gui for it, but I expect you could just edit /etc/ntp.conf
[16:45] <drc> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/NTP.html  it's an oldie but a goodie
[16:46] <Marzata> there was a gui for that in 11.10
[16:47] <drc> dunno, I just did a quick check, couldn't find it, so....
[16:48] <Marzata> thanks.
[16:48] <drc> there is a gui to <use> ntp, but you can't set the servers there.
[16:48] <bzolt4n> Hi! I wold like to ask for help, my touchpad doesn't work in Xubuntu 12.04, but it works is Ubuntu 12.04. I looked for everywhere to solve the problem, but not found.
[16:49] <Sysi> bzolt4n: doesn't work at all or doesn't behave as it should?
[16:50] <bzolt4n> doesn't work
[16:50] <bzolt4n> i try to enable and disable in setting, not help
[16:50] <bzolt4n> i try to pull out my usb mouse, then restart, but not workin too
[16:50] <Sysi> try running "synclient TouchpadOff=0" in terminal
[16:52] <Sysi> does it work?
[16:52] <bzolt4n> no :(
[16:53] <bzolt4n> in the mouse settings, I see PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad, i don't know it is helpful
[16:54] <drc> bzolt4n: You didn't set anything in Removable Drivers and Media>Input Devices >Mice did you ?
[16:55] <drc> but if sysi's command didn't work, I'm stumped
[16:57] <bzolt4n> No i didn't set anyhing
[16:58] <drc> bzolt4n: that PS/2 Synaptics Touchpad is enabled/checked isn't it?
[16:58] <bzolt4n> yes, it is enabled
[16:59] <bzolt4n> i tried to disable/enable maybe it will work, but nothing happend
[16:59] <bzolt4n> i don't undestand why works in ubuntu, and not in xubuntu
[16:59] <drc> but if sysi's command didn't work, I'm stumped (redux :)
[17:01] <cowskull> Hello
[17:01] <bzolt4n> but i thank you try to help :)
[17:01] <Sysi> bzolt4n: does "lsmod | grep synaptics" give any output?
[17:01] <Sysi> hrm, actually evdev is used now
[17:02] <cowskull> Could anyone please help me, I just installed xubuntu and cannot detect one of my hard drives
[17:02] <bzolt4n> I inserted and nothing happend
[17:24] <draimus> I have a tech question.  Just insalled Xubuntu 12.04 on an office system (corporate lan w/ primarily windows domains).  I cannot get thunar or gigolo to connect to any windows shares.  I just get the user/domain/password dialog over and over.  Works fine from my Ubuntu 11.04 install.  Any suggestions?
[17:24] <draimus> for clarification I am switching from an old Ubuntu to the latest Xubuntu.
[17:27] <holstein> draimus: what are the errors in gigolo?
[17:27] <holstein> sounds like permissions to me
[17:27] <draimus> I don't get an error.  Just the dialog over and over until I cancel.
[17:28] <holstein> might need smbclient
[17:29] <holstein> i would refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide ..see if you can get some error output
[17:29] <draimus> smbclient is installed (I'm guessing it was installed during OS install)
[17:31] <holstein> draimus: i would mount the share in the commandline and report errors
[17:32] <draimus> After installing cifs-utils I can do a mount -t cifs just fine.  GUI method still doesn't work (gvfs?)
[19:25] <arpad2> on my pc since 12.04 starting Playonlinux gives crash report
[19:58] <Restringere> Hello
[19:58] <Restringere> I have a technical question
[19:59] <Restringere> I have a Dell Vostro 1500, Dual Core Intel 2.0 ghz, 2 Gigs of DDR2 ram and plenty of hard drive and Geforce 8400M GS mobile chipset.
[19:59] <GridCube> good
[19:59] <Restringere> However Ubuntu 12.04 running Xubuntu is very slow, the graphics are jerky
[20:00] <Restringere> For example, when I highlight things in a web browser there is a lag and this lag and jerkiness happens everywhere
[20:01] <Restringere> my Memory usage never really exceeds 40-60% even running tons of Chromium windows and having LibreOffice and a movie playing etc...
[20:01] <Restringere> But the graphics are jerky and slow
[20:01] <Restringere> I have the Proprietary nVidia X-Server drivers, the latest version..
[20:01] <Restringere> What should I do to improve the responsiveness of the desktop?
[20:02] <Restringere> Can I scale back some XFCE graphics, how can I bring it to a bare minimum level and tweak things to get it just right?
[20:02] <Restringere> Would getting more Ram help?  Like to 4 Gigs?
[20:03] <Restringere> I dont have any of these problems using Windows XP...
[20:03] <Restringere> Any suggestions, help???
[20:03] <Restringere> Expert opinions?
[20:03] <GridCube> Restringere, sadly video drivers for linux aint that goo
[20:03] <GridCube> d
[20:03] <GridCube> :(
[20:04] <GridCube> you could, a) try other drivers
[20:04] <Restringere> Can I install the latest nVidia Linux drivers?
[20:04] <GridCube> Restringere, yes
[20:04] <Restringere> How?
[20:04] <GridCube> you could b) try disabling composing
[20:04] <GridCube> Restringere, go to the nvidia page and search for the latest linux drivers, they have a how to
[20:05] <Restringere> Ok
[20:05] <Restringere> Would increasing RAM help?
[20:05] <Sysi> no
[20:05] <Restringere> Moving to 64 Bit Linux?
[20:06] <Sysi> very probably not
[20:06] <Restringere> ok
[20:06] <Restringere> Thats why the new GIMP 2.8 is all funky on me?
[20:06] <Restringere> Like all the lags, its just the Drivers for Video?
[20:07] <GridCube> yes
[20:07] <GridCube> well
[20:07] <GridCube> maybe no, i dont know
[20:07] <GridCube> but very probably, yes
[20:08] <Restringere> Ok, how to I roll back if things get screwed up?
[20:08] <Restringere> Just run the basic Canonical drivers again?
[20:08] <Restringere> from the "Extra Drivers" dialog?
[20:09] <GridCube> yes, or you can delete xorg.conf form /etc/X11
[20:09] <GridCube> that would revert things to generic drivers
[20:09] <Restringere> ok
[20:10] <Restringere> Going to try then returning back to the room in 10 mins
[20:10] <Restringere> wish me luck
[20:18] <autif1> is there a transparent cursor theme for ubuntu (for touchscreens for example)
[20:18] <Restringere> Nothing happened
[20:18] <autif> once more with the right nick
[20:18] <autif> is there a transparent cursor theme for ubuntu (for touchscreens for example)
[20:19] <Restringere> ran the nvidia drivers with "sh ./ driverbinaryname"
[20:19] <Restringere> and nothing happened
[20:19] <Restringere> changed it to executable and everything
[20:19] <Restringere> ahhhhh
[20:20] <GridCube> Restringere, you need to run it from a tty with no X running
[20:23] <Restringere> rebooting
[20:23] <GridCube> autif, this should work http://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=36
[20:23] <GridCube> notice the should
[20:24] <nexinarus> So im doing a distribution upgrade to 12.04 and during the 'installing the upgrades' part it's stalled for about 2 hours on "ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/trebuc32.exe" (300kb file), what should I do?
[20:25] <GridCube> hit the skip button
[20:25] <nexinarus> unfortunately theres no skip button
[20:25] <GridCube> o:
[20:27] <nexinarus> if I push ctrl+c on the console it says "this will abort the operation and may leave the system in a broken state. Are you sure?". bit of a gamble hah
[20:27] <GridCube> thats weird, it should just cancel the current process, thats why the skip button
[20:27] <GridCube> you could... unplug your internet and the download should fail
[20:28] <nexinarus> ooh good point!
[20:28] <GridCube> but then everything else should also fail
[20:28] <GridCube> if you are doing an upgrade from the internet
[20:28] <Phips-> hi
[20:28] <GridCube> !hi
[20:28] <autif> GridCube thanks!
[20:29] <nexinarus> hmm so ctrl+c or turn off net.. hmm
[20:29] <GridCube> :) found a nice one autif
[20:29] <Phips-> thx ^^
[20:29] <GridCube> nexinarus, dont know
[20:29] <nexinarus> ah ill try net option.. here goes nothing
[20:30] <autif> GridCube: I did not, but it is a good resource - I just need to figure out how to disable the icons at startup - completely - these themes make the icons looks like something or another
[20:30] <GridCube> autif, you mean desktop icons?
[20:31] <Phips-> I have a question: when I want to install xubuntu as second OS. Is that only able with booting a live CD or can I do tht like the normal ubuntu, like a programm?
[20:31] <GridCube> you can disable them from the desktop configuration, last tab is icons (first one is wallpapers), there you disable your icons, i like to keep the live media icons on, because if no live media in the computer they dont show, and if i plug a pendrive it shows an icon there :D
[20:32] <GridCube> Phips-, you can do wubi installs aswell
[20:32] <Phips-> and what is that o.O :d
[20:32] <GridCube> but keep in mind that NO ONE did wubi tests on xubuntu that we know off, it should work just like ubuntu does, but we don't know
[20:32] <GridCube> !wubi | Phips-
[20:33] <knome> GridCube, we did whole 4 wubi tests for 12.04 ;)
[20:33] <GridCube> 4! AMAZING!
[20:33] <GridCube> :D
[20:33] <knome> yeah...
[20:33] <Unit193> I'd not recommend that in general, ever. :P
[20:33] <knome> iirc 2 for alpha2 and 2 for final
[20:33] <Phips-> thx for links ^^
[20:33] <nexinarus1> ah crap disabling net & hitting ctrl+c failed lol, both did nothing dangit
[20:33] <GridCube> nexinarus1, :(
[20:34] <nexinarus1> i installed xubuntu with wubi, works sweet
[20:34] <GridCube> i don't know then, id recommend you to do a clean install
[20:35] <nexinarus1> cheers GridCube
[20:35] <GridCube> :) good luck nexinarus1
[20:41] <Phips-> ehy, the "wubi" works at Win-XP station?
[20:42] <Phips-> oh I have it ^^
[20:43] <martian> Hey folks, thinking of making the switch to xfce as it seems my old ubuntu 11.04 desktop isn't getting nice updates like gimp 1.8
[20:43] <martian> So how do you install a theme in this thing?
[20:43] <martian> Just copy to ~/.themes?
[20:43] <GridCube> yes
[20:43] <SpiKe_Spiegel> yes
[20:44] <martian> #whydidIevenask :)
[20:44] <SpiKe_Spiegel> and then you select the appropriate theme in the Xfce parameters
[20:45] <Phips-> when I install this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer is that the 64-bit version?
[20:45] <SpiKe_Spiegel> However, I'm not sure that Gimp 2.8 will be in Ubunt 12.04 repos
[20:45]  * GridCube knows that unity themes need a special programs and tinkering with the system because "theming" is not supported
[20:45] <GridCube> !info gimp
[20:45] <GridCube> nope
[20:46] <Phips-> GridCube: @ me or @ martian? :)
[20:47] <martian> SpiKe_Spiegel: well, it's in the unofficial (webupd8) repos but only for 12.x... it's more of a matter that the times are changing and it's a sign that I should look in to my next UI
[20:47] <martian> I can't handle unity :-P
[20:47] <SpiKe_Spiegel> martian, so Xfce is a good choice ^^
[20:47] <GridCube> Phips-, I have literally no idea of how wubi works
[20:48] <martian> SpiKe_Spiegel: I've always liked it; just never had a reason to bother switching
[20:48] <Phips-> GridCube: ok ^^
[20:48] <GridCube> but if i have to guess, ill say that you cant run linux amd64 if you are not running windows amd64
[20:49] <GridCube> but really don't know
[20:49] <Phips-> mh ^^
[20:49] <GridCube> ill recommend you to do a clean install
[20:49] <Phips-> with the CD?
[20:49] <GridCube> it can install alongside windows fairly easy
[20:49] <GridCube> yes Phips-
[20:49] <GridCube> or a pendrive
[20:50] <GridCube> i havent burn cds in a long time :P
[20:50] <EvilResistance> what's the default mail application in xubuntu?
[20:50] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Thunderbird
[20:50] <Phips-> GridCube: ok thx for help ^^
[20:51] <Phips-> Thunderbird, and is that right that you use conqueror as brwoser?
[20:51] <EvilResistance> thanks
[20:51] <Phips-> *browser
[20:51] <autif> GridCube: yes, I meant desktop icons. It seems like I need to run xsetroot -cursor someting something from somewhere in the X startup - I just can;t get where - if I sleep 30 seconds and then start - everything is just fine
[20:52] <GridCube> O_O
[20:52] <GridCube> what?
[20:52] <GridCube> are you not using xfce?
[20:52] <autif> I am
[20:52] <autif> but I think this is at a lower level - at X's level
[20:52] <autif> so, I do not need themese
[20:53] <autif> or I need transparent theme - which does not seem to exist
[20:53] <autif> for a touchscreen
[20:53] <autif> this is the next best thing
[20:53] <autif> ls
[20:53] <autif> sorry
[20:55] <Phips-> wish you good day, see you soon bye
[21:09] <starn> why are my youtube videos blue tinted? like people are blue?
[21:11] <GridCube> starn, because of hardware acceletarion
[21:11] <Sysi> right click -> settings -> uncheck hardware acceleration
[21:11] <GridCube> disable it
[21:11] <Sysi> because flash sucks
[21:12] <GridCube> because video drivers for linux sucks too
[21:12] <starn> sure it's not ffmepg stuff? and Sysi flash does suck haha
[21:12] <GridCube> starn, no, its just flash
[21:12] <GridCube> and video drivers
[21:12] <starn> i remember having this issue april 1 and fixed it.. not fully sure how.. i think i had to do something with gstreamer or ffmepg
[21:13]  * GridCube shrugs
[21:13] <starn> be right back switching OS's..
[21:15] <t0rx__> Anyone know the PPA for the mainline kernel on 12.04 to update to 3.3.4 via apt-get?
[21:16] <GridCube> !kernel | t0rx__
[21:16] <drc>  This Smurfiness is funny...on the same hardware with the same nvidia driver, I get it with slackware/salix and fedora but not with X/Ubuntu, debian or Linux Mint.
[21:17] <GridCube> ja, i got it in this machine
[21:18] <t0rx__> ubottu: my video card has drivers that are in the 3.3.4 kernel but not enabled by default.  Thus I need to recompile with them enabled.  So I'm guessing I need to get the ubuntu 3.3.4 NOT the kernel.org version?
[21:56] <starn> hmm.. can't remember what i did to fix blue youtube videos.. i use chrome.. and i am pretty sure it had to do with unofficial flash stuff... for my computer will not let me select or deselect hardware acc.
[21:57] <starn> like under settings for flash the menu buttons don't work i can't click them i can tab through them but it wont let me use space or enter to select them it lets me use enter to close though.
[22:02] <starn> fixed it!! it was mplayer / libvdpau1
[22:03] <Sysi> vdpau is the thingy doing hw-acceleration
[22:03] <starn> so to fix blue smurf people on youtube just remove mplayer and libvdpau1
[22:04] <knome> or use the html5 version?
[22:04] <starn> it was acting up in html5 even.
[22:05] <Sysi> really funky drivers
[22:05] <starn> indeed. i have nvidia..  i've been in html5 trail for awhile..
[22:06] <starn> i've noticed some videos force me to use flash though. what up with that
[22:07] <Sysi> some videos are just not available in html5(webm/h264/something)
[22:07] <starn> ah well i fixed my issue. i don't see why mplayer would effect chrome and flash videos.
[22:08] <starn> holy crap.. i even fixed my musictube problem.. o.O huh welp i'm done for the day.
[22:11] <Restringel> This is the guy with the Vostro 1500 trouble
[22:11] <Restringel> I found an interesting solution
[22:11] <starn> now than i tried to use compiz w/e for 3d desktop.. and now i'm unable to log into my normal desktop. any suggestions?
[22:12] <Restringel> To speed things up - as a result of very buggy Nvidia drivers - I dropped the color bit depth to 56K, turned off advanced GPU features and
[22:12] <Restringel> Wow, it works better, less jittery
[22:12] <Restringel> I'll probably have to wait until 12.10 to see massive improvements
[22:14] <Restringel> Anyone have anymore Nvidia related performance tweaks?
[22:36] <xubuntu433> hi, is there a way to change/switch my keyboard layout in us,greek and vise versa?
[22:39] <GridCube> yes
[22:40] <GridCube> xubuntu433, theres a keyboard switch button for the panel, if its not there already you might have to install xfce goodies
[22:41] <LiquidBlues> I'm having a problem getting Xubuntu 12.04 to boot from CD or USB.  Is there a way to start the install from the OS already on it?
[22:41] <GridCube> i dont understand
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> I've made a CD-ROM and it won't boot into the install.  Same for USB.
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> So, just trying to find a way around it.
[22:42] <xubuntu433> found it, thank you very much!
[22:42] <knome> LiquidBlues, it's possible, but you can't install to the same partition you are running from
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> Yeah, that makes sense.
[22:42] <GridCube> LiquidBlues, you can try the alternate cd
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> GridCube: What does that do for me?
[22:43] <GridCube> it doesnt load a graphical interface and its faster
[22:43] <LiquidBlues> Oh.
[22:43] <LiquidBlues> Sounds promising.
[22:43] <LiquidBlues> So, how do I select the options that come with the GUI install?
[22:44] <GridCube> no, you need the alternate ISO
[22:45] <LiquidBlues> Right.  So, I download and burn that.
[22:45] <LiquidBlues> But the regular iso gives me install options on the gui.
[22:45] <LiquidBlues> And you're saying I don't have those on the alternate.
[22:46] <GridCube> LiquidBlues, you have all the same options, just not graphically, textually
[22:46] <LiquidBlues> Ah, okay.  Grand idea.
[22:46] <LiquidBlues> I'll give it a whirl.
[22:46]  * GridCube thinks he really has to make his alternate tutorial
[22:47] <LiquidBlues> Yeah!  What the hell?
[22:47] <LiquidBlues> Slacker.
[22:47] <LiquidBlues> ;)
[22:47] <GridCube> :P
[22:59] <Viva_Caligula> I jus installed the latest xubuntu and I can't login normally
[23:00] <Viva_Caligula> the splash displays, but there's a gray square where the login prompt should be
[23:01] <Viva_Caligula> I'm connected with irssi running in a root shell right now
[23:01] <Viva_Caligula> annybody know how to fix the login manager?
[23:02] <pleia2> Viva_Caligula: fresh install, or an upgrade?
[23:02] <Viva_Caligula> fresh install
[23:02] <pleia2> hmm, haven't seen that one before
[23:03] <Viva_Caligula> I tried versions before the current one, but after karmic, and the supported ones refuse to install
[23:03] <Viva_Caligula> I have a dual boot with karmic atm (old install), bu they don't share a /home
[23:05] <Viva_Caligula> running dpkg didn't help
[23:05] <pleia2> I'm not finding much, but as a datapoint it's using lightdm as the login manager, so that may help find some clues
[23:05] <pleia2> Viva_Caligula: maybe take a look at /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[23:06] <Viva_Caligula> the system is borderline unresponsive when started normally
[23:06] <Viva_Caligula> it responds to the mouse jerkily with up to 5 seconds of delay, and won't shut down, or bring a terminal up
[23:07] <Viva_Caligula> pleia2: is nano installed by default?
[23:07] <pleia2> Viva_Caligula: yep, or vi
[23:07] <pleia2> (er, I think vi..)
[23:07] <knome> i think nano is ;)
[23:07] <knome> at least..
[23:07] <knome> and it gives me less shivers
[23:08] <Viva_Caligula> hmm, since I'm in a root shell, I don't think I can switch terminal windows
[23:08] <Viva_Caligula> alt + f<number> just gives a black screen
[23:08]  * nanotube >_>
[23:09] <Viva_Caligula> I have to dc to look at the file, anything in particular I should look for?
[23:11] <pleia2> warnings, errors
[23:11] <pleia2> start at the bottom
[23:11] <Viva_Caligula> okay, brb
[23:18] <Viva_Nero> I see some stuff about shutting down and sigterm, after a gap in the timestamps, but I think that's from me having to force a hrad shutdown
[23:19] <Viva_Nero> *hard
[23:19] <Viva_Nero> other than that, nothing seems out of place
[23:23] <Marzata> any plans for xfce 4.10 ppa?
[23:23] <Marzata> or an update?
[23:24] <muzzol> hi
[23:24] <xubuntu708> hi
[23:24] <muzzol> which notify system is used by xubuntu?
[23:24] <muzzol> is compatible with 'notify-send' command?
[23:24] <xubuntu708> I need some help with my xubuntu 12.04
[23:25] <Unit193> muzzol: xcfe4-notifyd
[23:25] <xubuntu708> what do u mean
[23:26] <muzzol> i user notify-send to show some messages
[23:26] <xubuntu708> were do i have to ask some help regarding my update of 12.0
[23:26] <muzzol> and i would like to know if xubuntu system is compatible with that command
[23:26] <knome> xubuntu708, here.
[23:26] <Unit193> Yep.
[23:27] <Unit193> muzzol: I use it with irssi.
[23:27] <muzzol> ok, thanks Unit193
[23:27] <LiquidBlues> I have an exciting new problem!
[23:28] <LiquidBlues> I'm using the alternate cd
[23:29] <LiquidBlues> It gets me to the "Install Xubuntu" prompt.
[23:30] <LiquidBlues> I select it and then the screen goes black and, after a bit, the CD stops spinning.
[23:37] <Punk_Unity> im having trouble installing themes from xfce-look.org
[23:41] <Unit193> What are you doing with them?
[23:42] <Punk_Unity> tryign to download them and install them
[23:43] <Punk_Unity> im running precise
[23:43] <Viva_Nero> Okay, running the irc client on a different computer now, so I'm free to mess with the broken install
[23:43] <Punk_Unity> xubuntu
[23:43] <Unit193> Punk_Unity: So you just don't know how? Alright, make a dir in your home folder named .themes
[23:43] <Punk_Unity> ok
[23:43] <Unit193> !themes
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> i did that
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> but there arent any i really like in stock format
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> i go to that site and download them, extract them... and i dotn see the new ones in settings
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> im also running compiz
[23:46] <Punk_Unity> i added the folder .themes to my home folder
[23:46] <Punk_Unity> but i dont see it
[23:47] <Viva_Nero> I've not figured out my login troubles yet
[23:47] <Unit193> It's hidden, did you open Appearance in the settings manager? I don't know where themes would mesh with compiz.
[23:47] <Viva_Nero> it'll boot to a splash, but where the login prompt should be is a gray square, and the system goes near-unresponsive
[23:48] <Punk_Unity> just wanted to let you know what i had going on, thanks... let me get into settigns manager, 1 sec
[23:48] <Viva_Nero> lightdm's log file didn't have anything that stood out
[23:48] <Punk_Unity> ok, im in Appearance
[23:49] <Punk_Unity> i dont see any of the themes that i downloaded
[23:49] <Punk_Unity> like orta, and so on
[23:51] <Punk_Unity> ok, i see the .Themes folder now
[23:51] <Punk_Unity> should i extract the tar.gz files into that folder?
[23:51] <TheMaster> Has to be '.themes'
[23:52] <Viva_Nero> is there a different login manager I can install/set as the default?
[23:52] <Punk_Unity> actually its a zip file
[23:52] <Punk_Unity> its .themes sorry
[23:52] <TheMaster> Viva_Nero: Yep, you can use whatever you want, GDM, slim, lightdm, LXDM, etc.
[23:52] <Viva_Nero> what did jaunty use?
[23:52] <Viva_Nero> I prefer having to type out the username as well as the pass
[23:53] <TheMaster> Slim and LXDM need that, and I *think* you can get that in LightDM.
[23:55] <Viva_Nero> wikipedia says lightdm is used for 11.10 onward, not for sure what was used before
[23:55] <TheMaster> GDM was.
[23:56] <Punk_Unity> ok, so if i download the orta zip file... what should i do next?
[23:56] <Punk_Unity> from xfce-look.org
[23:57] <Viva_Nero> if I just do apt-get install GDM from a root shell, will it install and load instead of lightdm?
[23:57] <TheMaster> For me it works to extract it to .themes.
[23:57] <TheMaster> Viva_Nero: It'll ask what you want to use as default.
[23:59] <Viva_Nero> rebooting it, one sec