[00:18] <hazmat> hey folks if anyone is looking for something to charm. postgres-xc would rock
[01:25] <m_3_> hazmat: ping
[14:44]  * SpamapS rings the bell
[14:44] <SpamapS> charm promulgated: 'ubuntu' ..
[14:45] <SpamapS> deploys.... you guessed it.. ubuntu!
[16:18] <flepied> why don't you use libcloud to be able to access all the available clouds in Juju ?
[17:20] <hazmat> flepied, twisted
[17:59] <SpamapS> hazmat: isn't there a way to wrap pretty much any library in twisted, its just not ideal?
[18:02] <SpamapS> hazmat: like, deferToThread or something?
[18:15] <hazmat> SpamapS, indeed there is
[18:15] <hazmat> SpamapS, and yes we could try that
[18:48] <SpamapS> hazmat: its kind of attractive to have http://libcloud.apache.org/apidocs/0.6.0-beta1/libcloud.drivers.html available. ;)
[18:54] <SpamapS> but, at this point, I wouldn't say that twisted is the reason libcloud isn't available. Its really that we're feature frozen while go gets done. :)
[18:55] <hazmat> SpamapS, the abstractions aren't quite strong enough, ie we could have a number of libcloud based providers, but a single libcloud provider wouldn't be able to use against multiple backends
[18:55] <hazmat> SpamapS, true
[19:37] <SpamapS> hazmat: perhaps. If we embraced the new 'Deploy' methods though, we could supplant cloud-init for a post-boot ssh :)
[19:37] <SpamapS> hazmat: so I think it might be stronger now than it was in the past
[19:37] <SpamapS> hazmat: s3-like storage is also abstracted to a level where we could probably just de-couple the two
[19:38] <hazmat> SpamapS, what days are you at UDS for?
[19:38] <SpamapS> hazmat: are you in Oakland for the weekend?
[19:38] <hazmat> SpamapS, i am
[19:38] <SpamapS> hazmat: Just Tuesday and Thursday
[19:38] <SpamapS> hazmat: isn't it nice up there? Shouldn't you be like, photographing parrots or something? :)
[19:38] <hazmat> SpamapS, was going to try get into some hacking and catch a showing of avengers
[19:38] <hazmat> SpamapS, i wandered into sf yesterday and checked out mongosf
[19:39] <SpamapS> oh fun
[19:39] <hazmat> its a beautiful day, gotta figure out some laundry
[19:40] <SpamapS> hazmat: I'm usually happy just wandering down by pier39/fishermans wharf and then having tea somewhere on russian hill.
[19:40] <SpamapS> Always gives me hope for America.. that we're not all going to be fat and ugly :)
[19:41] <SpamapS> (russian hill does that.. fisherman's wharf is where I get depressed because of all the morbidly obese wearing american flag t-shirts wandering around ;)
[19:41] <hazmat> ostack conf was basically next door to the wharf.. twas nice
[19:46] <SpamapS> yeah thats a great hotel
[19:46] <SpamapS> I heard from a few people that Oakland has become more "hip" lately
[19:46] <SpamapS> that there is a cool part
[19:46] <SpamapS> but.. nobody could tell me where it is :)
[19:47] <hazmat> SpamapS, lots of nice restaurants around here, twas very smokey walking the streets last night though
[20:37] <imbrandon> mmmm good mornfternoon
[20:43] <imbrandon> yall know if the Bart runs to ( or close nuff ) the hotel ?
[23:17] <hazmat> imbrandon, the bart drops off within sight of the hotel get off on the 11th st side
[23:27] <imbrandon> hazmat: rockin, yea its been a few 5 years since i have been out there so wasent sure
[23:28] <m_3_> was just wlking around a bit
[23:28] <m_3_> suffering from a distict lack of MMA-related attire
[23:28] <imbrandon> heya m_3_
[23:28] <hazmat> imbrandon, no worries, really no way to know unless till you know or ask
[23:28] <hazmat> m_3_, yeah.. that has been a bit odd
[23:29] <imbrandon> i should be in early tomarrow, flight is a redeye out of here
[23:29] <m_3_> imbrandon: cool
[23:29] <imbrandon> i think i land around 9am local
[23:29] <imbrandon> would need to check to be sure tho
[23:29] <imbrandon> but somewhere near that
[23:30] <imbrandon> was trying to get in this afternoon so i could go see jono's gig
[23:30] <imbrandon> but not this time :)
[23:32] <imbrandon> m_3_: does your git-bzr "binary" start with this header ?
[23:32] <imbrandon> #!/usr/bin/env python
[23:32] <imbrandon> # git-cl -- a git-command for integrating reviews on Rietveld
[23:32] <imbrandon> # Copyright (C) 2008 Evan Martin <martine@danga.com>
[23:32] <imbrandon> # Copyright (C) 2010 Andy Smith <andy@term.ie>
[23:32] <imbrandon> ?
[23:32] <m_3_> imbrandon: lemme look
[23:32] <m_3_> imbrandon: yup... got it from termie's github acct
[23:33] <imbrandon> thats mine, main reason i'm still curious  is its not barfed on me yet
[23:33] <imbrandon> heh
[23:33] <imbrandon> yup
[23:33] <m_3_> imbrandon: I can almost reproduce it on queue now
[23:33] <imbrandon> from termie, rackspace dude i think
[23:33] <imbrandon> oh nice, that means maybe fixable
[23:33] <m_3_> imbrandon: usually ok if I push after every commit... usually barfs if I don't
[23:34] <imbrandon> ahh see my normal "workflow" for using it is very cut and dry tooo
[23:34] <imbrandon> i only
[23:34] <imbrandon> git bzr clonew lp:blah
[23:34] <imbrandon> then do a ton of git stuff over a few days
[23:34] <imbrandon> pushing to github etc etc
[23:34] <imbrandon> then once i'm back to a git status thats "clean"
[23:34] <imbrandon> i git bzr push
[23:34] <imbrandon> back to lp
[23:35] <imbrandon> and restart the process
[23:35] <imbrandon> nothing else really
[23:35] <m_3_> imbrandon: wow... I'd love for that to work consistently
[23:35] <imbrandon> even got to use it on an older format bzr repo yesterday and it worked
[23:35] <m_3_> imbrandon: wanna get your bzr, bzr-fastimport, and git versions
[23:35] <imbrandon> of lp:kubuntu-website
[23:35] <m_3_> nice
[23:35] <imbrandon> m_3_: sure thing
[23:36] <imbrandon> m_3_: also i have not tried it on linuz either
[23:36] <imbrandon> this is always on osx
[23:36] <imbrandon> fwiw
[23:36] <imbrandon> linux*
[23:37] <imbrandon> how can i get the fast import verions ?
[23:43] <imbrandon> m_3_: https://gist.github.com/2606357
[23:43] <imbrandon> m_3_: i did git twice ( at the top ) as i normally also have git aliased to defunct's "hub" command  ( ruby gem )
[23:44] <imbrandon> not sure if/why that would make it more stable either but added it too just incase it plays a part
[23:46] <imbrandon> oh and git + bzr are both from homebrew/brew , fastimport is from easy_install and hub is from rubygems i think ( whatever the instructions says on defuncts website )
[23:46]  * SpamapS waves hi
[23:47] <imbrandon> heya SpamapS
[23:48] <SpamapS> imbrandon: how's the drupal charm going?
[23:48] <imbrandon> SpamapS: i dont htink i'm gonna be done with this nginx in time for the contest deadline, i mean i _could_ be but the perfectionest in me is not allowing it, so i think i'm gonna just enter the newrelic charm(s) and the drupal ( all-in-one , e.g. no subborainate support yet )
[23:48] <imbrandon> SpamapS: well i have it cleaned up
[23:49] <imbrandon> and working well as a all-in-one like omg is
[23:49] <imbrandon> but not the ideal way
[23:49] <imbrandon> like with nginx and LB seperate etc etc
[23:50] <imbrandon> so before UDS is over i should have like 5ish rockin charms, but only 1 or 1.5 by monday morning :)
[23:50] <imbrandon> see my delima :)
[23:51] <SpamapS> Wed. is the deadline
[23:51] <imbrandon> but its ok, i'd rather have a charm done "right": and easy to support/maintain later than laptop, although it would be killer, i got plenty of computers heh
[23:51] <imbrandon> ohhhh
[23:51] <imbrandon> wed ?
[23:51] <SpamapS> You will be faced w/ "Drink, or win shiny"
[23:51] <imbrandon> i thought it was Monday
[23:51] <SpamapS> Two week contest for charm authors, starting on 25 April 12 and closing out on 09 May 12 at 1700. Here's a list of current charms: http://jujucharms.com/charms
[23:51] <imbrandon> i'm good with that choice
[23:52] <SpamapS> imbrandon: you can opt for "Drink *and* win shiny"
[23:52] <imbrandon> ohh nice
[23:52] <imbrandon> SpamapS: yea i'll likely just "drink light" monday , then
[23:52] <imbrandon> and tue
[23:52] <imbrandon> then fully join in the fun :)
[23:52] <imbrandon> lol
[23:53] <SpamapS> Find the kernel team, bring beer and a laptop.. you will have all kinds of good ideas :)
[23:53] <imbrandon> actually, i'm more a social drinker anyhow, i try not to get smashed, uds or not :)
[23:53] <imbrandon> dont always work that way tho
[23:53] <imbrandon> lol
[23:53] <SpamapS> Yeah I haven't gotten smashed at a UDS.. but I've certainly mixed the wrong things a few times.
[23:53] <imbrandon> one night i always end up smashed
[23:53] <imbrandon> normally the last night
[23:54] <imbrandon> after the grp dinner etc
[23:54] <SpamapS> Friday night I usually end up pretty fershnockered, but I just dance like a maniac until I sweat it out. :)
[23:54] <imbrandon> heh
[23:54] <imbrandon> <-- dont dance
[23:54]  * SpamapS is sad he'll be missing the friday festivities
[23:54] <imbrandon> or if i do, i'm way way tooo drunk
[23:55] <SpamapS> I'm a karaoke whore and a closet crumper
[23:55] <imbrandon> i got 3 left feet
[23:55] <imbrandon> crumper ?
[23:55] <imbrandon> yea i like to sing,i do it local here all the time
[23:56] <imbrandon> and play alot of pool, i'm the guy in the back either shooting for $$ or has a table full of girls "teaching" them :)
[23:58] <imbrandon> one of the few geeks that has all the computers and tech UPSTAIRS at home, and the mancave is full of pooltable and wetbar ( that i use like 1 time a year :( )
[23:58] <imbrandon> been on my todo to "tech-up" the mancave in some cool ways
[23:59] <imbrandon> but that budget always gets spent elsewhere before i do it
[23:59] <imbrandon> this last time spent bailing out my little ( still a grown ass man over 30 ) of jail