=== sayakb is now known as sayakb_away === frogonwheels_ is now known as frogonwheels [00:42] what the heck happened to my toolbar in dolphin [00:43] ctrl+m? [00:44] thanks [00:45] yeah suspend torrents is back :-) [00:46] man I wish they would make an option for not having to unmaximize a window that is maximized on another screen on an extended desktop [00:47] wish the move button could just move it like grabbing a title bar of a window can automatically minimize and move it === MediaWork is now known as hroi [01:35] i wanted to make a not for possible ubuntu/xubuntu upgrade... it would be rad if the media players had better visualizers [01:42] When I tried to install 12.04 on my system, it told me I needed an EFI boot partition to boot properly, so I made one, but it gave me an error on how it couldn't install GRUB to /target/. so, I wiped it with GParted, created / swap and /home on GParted, and made a new system(installed fine), but it wouldn't boot(no OS found). Can I have some help setting up a proper partioning scheme that will allow me to boot? [01:49] Linkmaster: when you boot from the DVD, have a close look at the options in your boot manager to get the DVD started. If you select the EFI option, it will try an EFI install, if you don't you will get a normal BIOS install. Had this problem on my laptop. [01:49] pjn_oz: I'm installing from USB [01:50] Linkmastr: I think you should still get both options? Not 100% sure about that. I didn't get EFI working on my system either, but there is some stuff on the Kubutu forum about it. [01:51] I think the EFI problem is with the harddrive, not the BIOS, right..? Cause I thought all brand computers were the same [01:54] Linkmaster: No, some have EFI booting but simulate BIOS at the moment, others are just BIOS. EFI is a totally different boot mechanism. I've not managed to get one working yet. [01:55] pjn_oz: maybe my thumb-drive botched the installer? I do have some other files on it as well..it just killed the install again, saying 'exit code 1' [01:56] hm..thats..bizarre to say the least [01:59] Linkmaster: Could be something like that. Do you have a USB CD drive you could use? [02:00] I do, but no CD's. so that puts me back at square one [02:00] I cleared the drive, and am starting over [02:00] :) Yep.. that's not easy. [02:00] (I used a command line 'rm -rf *' to clean it [02:01] What are you trying to install onto? [02:01] a lenovo x120e [02:01] OK. nice. [02:01] I am currently using one right no(I'm at my boarding school, we all have the same computers) [02:01] and I never had such EFI problems before [02:02] No.. the EFI boot stuff is new to 12.04 I think. Have you had a look on the forum? There is a heap of stuff there about getting EFI working. [02:03] let me take a look, its been awhile since I browsed the forum, I can't get used to the changes [02:04] Look in the 12.04 beta area. [02:04] will do [02:09] pjn_oz: what further confuses me is, the 'startup interrupt menu' only gives the option for BIOS setup utility(along w/ selecting a temp startup device) [02:10] This computer has UEFI..wow. I never thought I'd see them this early [02:11] I think most laptops do now. [02:12] I'm going to check mine to see [02:12] I was appalled when I first learned of UEFI [02:15] Linkmaster: Got to go.. good luck with it. Hope you get it sorted. [02:27] strigi has no been going for like 4 days straight [02:27] nepomuk [02:29] it's interesting. there are a bunch of buntus on distrowatch.com at days ago [02:30] s/are/were [02:42] <_RegEx_> Hi all. I had Kubuntu 11.10 on a hard drive partition, but the upgrader placed 12.04 on my SSD which has now run out of space [02:42] <_RegEx_> Any remedies and ways to prevent in the future? [02:51] what? your ssd is too small [02:51] 64gb at least i think [02:53] Is it a bad idea to use lightdm with KDE? [02:53] login manager? [02:53] It has so many dependencies that I'm hesitant to install it [02:53] no idea [02:54] i prefer to use a simple 'startx' [02:56] I guess I still have a preference for GUIs (: === marcel_ is now known as mcamaret [03:32] are there any qt email clients that can match gmail, postler, or geary in simplicity? [03:37] hi, i simi broke my system and im looking for the easiest way to fix it. i am the only user and i was trying to add myself to a group. i messed something up, and now i am not in the sudo or admin group anymore. so now i am basically locked in noob-mode [03:37] how would one go about fixing this? [04:01] giantpune: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers [04:02] i think im having to use a live cd though to get root access to be able to make any changes [04:03] might want to have a look at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo#repaircommands [04:04] i need to have root access to be able to use any of those commands, though, dont i? [04:04] yes, the instructions on how are on that link [04:04] adduser and sudo [04:05] i tried that. grub doesnt show up even if i hold shift [04:05] please read the info before blindly typing in commands :) [04:05] giantpune: press and hold the shift button soon as you power on/reboot the machine [04:06] i already tried it several times [04:06] it boots right into kubuntu without showing any grub screens [04:14] woot. liveCD to the rescue [04:23] giantpune: what did ya do? [04:33] hi folks. my partner was running 11.10 on laptop. without consulting me, he updated to 12.04. told me that there was an error. after rebooting it wouldn't load all the way. that's all i know of what happened. so i have the laptop and it goes through loading everything, ails starting system 5 runlevel compatibility. then continues to load until the message appears: mountall:L disconnected from plymouth. i'd like to access the home directory but it's [04:33] encrypted and he lost the key. i'd lke to at least launch with a previous kernel so i can recover the files and install fresh. suggestions? [04:33] ails = fails [04:34] So 12.04 no Apple "I" products mount also the same in Ubuntu [04:35] calcmandan: if the encryption key is truly gone, there's no way to recover the files. [04:35] SteveRiley: thanks. but is there a way to load a previos kernel? [04:36] calcmandan: do you know whether a previous kernel is already installed? [04:36] SteveRiley: so that i can at least login as him and save some files? [04:36] SteveRiley: yeah he was running 11.10. did the update through the updater. [04:37] i assume you're at the computer now. let's check which kernel you have. please type "uname -a" and paste the response [04:37] ok i need to get to some sort of recovery console to do that. [04:37] it just boots up [04:38] and then let's see what else might be there. please type "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" and paste the response [04:38] is there a key combination i press to get to a console? it halts during bootup. [04:39] or should i load the machine on a live disc? [04:39] ik'm on my desktop at the moment, with the laptop next to me [04:39] i suppose that's what you mean. will load now on a live disc. [04:39] depending on how borked the machine is, you might be able to get to the recovery mode that's already there. [04:40] that's what i'd like to know how to do [04:40] boot the computer, and just as GRUB is loading, press [Esc] [04:40] you should see a menu [04:40] ok [04:41] it won't let me go to a menu, goes straight from bios to the purple tinted loading screen. not even a kernel selector like on my machine [04:41] i'll load a live disc [04:41] ok [04:42] it'll be a minute. [04:42] by the way, i appreciate the help bro [04:42] what do you want to do after you boot the live CD? [04:42] sure thing. [04:42] well i'd like to see if there's a way i can instruct grub on the hdd to pick a previous kernel so i can reboot and at least save pictures and documents before wiping the drive. [04:43] and installing 12.04 fresh [04:43] ah, ok. do you know how to operate in a chroot environment? [04:43] i have in the past, but it's been so long that i'm a noob again. [04:44] everything's been working fluidly for ~5 years now. this is the first issue i've encountered on any of my home machines. all on kubuntu since forever. [04:44] got konsole loaded and ready [04:44] okie. [04:44] one sec. i always like to verify the steps myself. [04:44] i'm patient. [04:45] is it possible to adjust how a system see's a mount or just have to wait till is is ironed out? [04:48] alright. what partition is your system on? [04:49] i believe it's on the main. sda1 [04:49] and is /boot also on /dev/sda1, or is it on a separate partition? [04:49] looks like it's on sda1 [04:50] ok. follow along... [04:50] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt [04:50] it's already mounted in media [04:50] oh, alright [04:50] i was browsing it in dolphin [04:50] then let's continue [04:50] wait... [04:51] can you see the files you need? [04:51] or are they still encrypted? [04:51] no the home director yis encrtypted. [04:51] yes [04:51] damn. [04:51] oh, oops... family forum :) [04:51] no worries [04:51] if it can be said on tv, it's okay. [04:51] haha [04:51] but you said the encryption key is lost? [04:52] yeah, the other day i attempted to recover the files by mounting the volume and it asked for the key. [04:52] he installed it 4 years ago and it's been encrypted since. this is the first update issue ever encoutnered. [04:52] ok. [04:52] let's continue [04:52] i just need grub to point to an earlier kernel so i can boot into it and hopefully backup the files. [04:53] sudo mount --bind /dev /media/dev [04:53] sud mount --bind /proc /media/proc [04:53] oops [04:53] sudo mount --bind /proc /media/proc [04:53] sudo mount --bind /sys /media/sys [04:54] so we're binding the live disc's proc with the hdd's proc? [04:54] and dev? [04:54] sudo mount --bind /usr/ /mount/usr [04:54] yes, this is so that chroot works properly to update the grub on /dev/sda [04:55] so basically: [04:55] (i'm following a guide i've used a few times before) [04:55] sudo mount --bind /dev /media/f6d35e79-7068-42ea-b8a1-c61c49f772ea/dev [04:56] actually, unmount /dev/sda1 from /media [04:56] sudo mount --bind /proc /media/f6d35e79-7068-42ea-b8a1-c61c49f772ea/proc [04:56] ok [04:56] let's go back to the konsole [04:56] type the commands i gave before (starting with the first mount) [04:56] and use /mnt rather than /media in all cases [04:57] ok will do, one sec [04:57] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt [04:57] and following === whodare_ is now known as Jekyll [04:57] ok it's as you suggest [04:57] i'm going to do all the steps now. wait one [04:57] okie [04:58] ok, bound dev, proc, sys, usr [04:59] alrighty, then here we go! [04:59] sudo chroot /mnt [04:59] mkay [04:59] uname -a [05:00] linux kubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-ubuntu smp then dates... [05:00] dpkg -l | grep linux-image [05:00] ok [05:01] want me to show output? [05:01] (looking for other installed kernels) [05:01] yes, please. [05:01] let me get on wifi on that machine and join channel from that machine. [05:01] oh, alright. === kubuntu is now known as calcmandan-lapto [05:02] hi [05:02] hi hi [05:04] ii linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic 3.0.0-12.20 Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 [05:04] ii linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic 3.0.0-13.22 Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 [05:04] ii linux-image-3.0.0-14-generic 3.0.0-14.23 Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 [05:04] ii linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic 3.0.0-15.26 Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 [05:04] ii linux-image-3.0.0-16-generic 3.0.0-16.29 Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 [05:04] calcmandan-lapto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:04] ii linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic 3.0.0-17.30 Linux kernel image for version 3.0.0 on x86/x86_64 [05:04] oh, you have lots of kernels, kewl [05:04] woops sorry [05:04] yeah [05:04] ah, what? [05:05] flood warning [05:05] had to grab a mouse, the stupid trackpad was annoying me [05:05] oh, haha [05:05] i prefer to middle click content from console [05:05] alright. let's edit the grub configuration so that it shows you the menu by default. [05:05] sudo nano /etc/default/grub [05:06] actually, you can omit the sudo now [05:06] since we're running as root [05:06] (habit, lol) [05:06] okok i'm in there. [05:06] umm god i'ts been a while. [05:06] place a # in front of the lines that begin with: [05:06] GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT [05:07] yeah... [05:07] see it. [05:07] GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET [05:07] and [05:07] how about grub_hidden_timeout_quiet [05:07] GRUB_TIMEOUT [05:07] it's set to 10 [05:07] those three [05:07] yes, it's fine [05:07] so comment out all three [05:07] just put a # in front of each of these lines [05:07] roger [05:07] done. [05:08] press ctrl+x [05:08] hi [05:08] and save [05:08] ok done [05:08] now [05:08] update-grub [05:08] just installed Kubuntu 64 bit in an Ubuntu virtualbox and it running like bat out hell.................. very speedy.:) [05:09] great work guys [05:09] let me pastebin is [05:09] snowrichard: both are nice [05:09] snowrichard: good to hear! [05:09] my kubuntu 12.04 won't boot after install it to a external usb drive.... [05:09] Ubuntu and Kubuntru [05:09] please someone... [05:09] calcmandan: use http://paste.kde.org [05:09] Fire, I have a few in compatable computers [05:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/968400/ [05:10] ok, that is a correct output [05:10] what you mean nine_?? [05:10] Fire, cd or usb install? [05:10] (i didn't know ubuntu had a paste) [05:10] I'm installing QT SDK [05:10] dvd install [05:10] now let's exit chroot with ctrl+d [05:10] my new internet is bursting to 1 Megabyte / Sec on my Verizon 4G LTE Mifi network [05:10] ok exited [05:10] then unmount the file systems: [05:11] I mean ur computer may not be able to run 12.04... did u try it live? [05:11] sudo umount /mnt/dev [05:11] sudo umount /dev/proc [05:11] sudo umount /dev/sys [05:11] device was free with 2yr contract [05:11] sudo umount /mnt/sur [05:11] i got 10 GB /month for $80 [05:11] sudo umount /mnt [05:11] I'm boot in right now on live dvd and it work fine... [05:12] after finishing my install it just won't boot ... [05:12] hmm.. [05:12] what does it do? [05:12] after you finish unmounting, reboot: [05:12] usr, dev, proc, then mnt? [05:12] sudo reboot [05:12] can it make it to log on screen? [05:12] nothing... after the bios screen it waits.... [05:12] forgot sys [05:12] dev, proc, sys, usr, mnt [05:13] did u try full install? [05:13] great, rebooting [05:13] I'm use to old grub but not this one... I maybe suspect that grub won't work [05:13] I know they were having trouble with the installer [05:13] i am curious about something, as i've never actually used the home encryption feature myself (too dangerous from my POV, for the reason you're experiencing now) [05:13] ... [05:14] do you mean no partitionning the drive??? [05:14] how will reverting to an earlier kernel help you decrypt the files? [05:14] yea [05:14] the installer has issues [05:14] when the computer boots, [05:14] ok so waht should I do??? [05:14] because it'll boot as normal and allow me to login. new kernel was halting at one point. [05:14] in the grub menu, choose "previous ubuntu versions" (or some language to that effect) [05:14] older kernel can load the home directory since it has the key. [05:14] did u choose full install? [05:14] last time? [05:14] i have recovery mode available. [05:14] not yet, do I have to??? [05:15] should i try that? [05:15] now yes [05:15] u will [05:15] 3.0.0-17-generic (recovery mode) [05:15] calcmandan: recovery mode on first screen, with kernel 3.2? [05:15] anything that was on there can be taken off before [05:15] ok I will and left on the channel, the laptop is just beside of me... [05:15] oh, you went to second screen? [05:15] but if there is nothing important on that hdd [05:15] try again [05:15] not yet. [05:15] with a full install [05:15] i'm at previous linux versions right now. [05:16] if no boot is working than thats ur choice [05:16] full install on my usb drive??? [05:16] 3.0.0-16-generic is the most recent. [05:16] but if u have a doul boot [05:16] then u may not be able to run it [05:16] on the second screen, that is. [05:16] yes I have.. [05:16] trying to boot it now we'll see [05:16] ohh [05:16] doul boot?\ [05:16] you beat me to it :) [05:16] failed. dammit [05:17] what happened to 3.2? [05:17] not doul but dual.. :-) [05:17] stopping system V runlevel compatibility [05:17] lol [05:17] going to try recovery mode. see what happens [05:17] ok [05:17] my dual boots failed every time in the 12.04 [05:17] got the recovery menu, enver seen this before [05:17] right not its all or nothing [05:18] i have 'repair broken packages' for dpkg [05:18] the installer isn\'t working correctly [05:18] choose "continue" [05:18] it's moving forward mounting the filesystem in fstab [05:18] cool cool [05:19] /dev/sda1 [05:19] install just started.... [05:20] are the mounts still, ah, mounting? [05:20] /dev/sda1: clean, 3061221/7266301 files, 6091808/29045504 blocks { 70.865892] ext4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. opts: errors=remount-ro [05:20] what was installed before? [05:20] that looks normal [05:20] it does, but i have a blinking cursor now [05:20] hit enter [05:20] and ls doesn't yield anything [05:20] just newlines it. [05:20] nothing brand new disk, but I tried to install kubuntu 3 times... [05:20] switch to another tty? [05:20] *SteveRyely Rocks* :) [05:21] justblinks [05:21] nine_: i roll, too :) [05:21] ctrl-alt f2, f3, ... right? [05:21] yup [05:22] ok tty7 gives me some. console-setup start/running, process 316 is the last line [05:22] ...think think... [05:23] should i reboot and try again? it seems to be in no certain mode to accept commands from me. it'll let me switch tty as far as i know, but no console is available. [05:24] i hit ctrl-c [05:24] yes, but this time don't choose recovery, chose regular [05:24] and it continued loading. [05:24] oh really [05:24] but halted in the same place. [05:24] so i basically ended the recovery console [05:24] waaah [05:24] and it continued booting [05:24] going back to recovery mode. [05:24] ok [05:25] you'll have to remind me. [05:25] what are the other options there? [05:25] resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root, and... [05:26] it's rebooting again. [05:26] system-summary [05:26] anybody made a .deb package for amsn? [05:26] when (if?) we get this fixed... don't encrypt when you rebuild! [05:26] i didn't. lol, but i never would. [05:26] i like having access to my files in a crunch [05:27] my partner did the install. [05:27] "crunch"... that would be right now :) [05:27] i've resisted the whole thing. i'm just not that paranoid. [05:27] yes it would. lol [05:27] .deb? amsn works ok in Kubuntu [05:27] that's the thing, i'm so mad at him for encrypting it and not writing down the key. [05:27] i oculd've had this recsolved a few days ago [05:28] let me check something about key recovery, one sec. [05:28] alright [05:28] you might as well try the fix broken package choice [05:29] i presume the encryption you were using was the option to encrypt /home, the one that appears when you're installing *buntu? [05:29] i did, and it gave me what appeared to be a normal mounting message then that's all i saw [05:29] i believe so. he did it a long time ago and i wasn't rpesent. [05:29] but that's the onnly thing he would've done since he just hits next for everything. [05:31] a possibly unanswerable question: do you have, perhaps, the mount passphrase written down? [05:31] nope. [05:31] if i did, this wouldn't be an issue [05:31] .......................... [05:32] tell me about it. [05:32] ................... [05:33] uh... do you log into your computer with a password, or does it auto-login and you don't know the password? [05:33] he required a password to login [05:33] *whew* [05:33] so there is a way to do this. [05:33] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1124158/20120504_223053.jpg [05:33] it's multiple steps [05:34] do that! [05:34] i'm ready. [05:34] do that: root shell [05:34] there [05:34] got a # [05:34] ? [05:34] yes [05:34] nine_, what deb? [05:35] sudo mount -o rw,remount / [05:35] i'm using kubuntu 12.04 [05:35] ok [05:35] sudo mount [05:35] put the output of that into another paste, please [05:35] one minute. [05:36] licenced: I didn't get ur question... .deb for debian?? or for Ubuntu/Kubuntu? [05:36] nine_, i can't found amsn.deb to use on kubuntu 12.04.. can you show me? [05:38] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1124158/20120504_223707.jpg [05:38] is /home also on /dev/sda1 ? [05:38] yes [05:39] it was all installed with default settings. [05:39] in the following command, substitute your login username for where i type "username" [05:39] k [05:39] ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /home/username/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase [05:39] licenced, its not available yet.. same as most apple product mount [05:40] let me get the password, brb [05:41] so the output is the key? [05:41] reboot time, cross fingers and toes... [05:41]