[00:09] <hawkal> Does anyone here know how to disable the system tray notifications?
[00:09] <TheMaster> Which ones?
[00:09] <hawkal> all of them
[00:10] <TheMaster> You may be able to disable, or you can purge.
[00:10] <hawkal> I've tried looking for settings or pluging removal etc but I can't find anything do you know where I should look?
[00:11] <hawkal> I just don't want any notifications
[00:11] <TheMaster> Give an example, the update one? You'd either get the config, or disable that from startup.
[00:11] <PsyCl0ne> good evening everyone. I am running a Lubuntu install that upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04 I believe. But I have lost sound since I upgraded. In alsamixer it shows my sound card (SB Audigy 1) and I have maxed out all the sliders, but yet still get nothing. I have since then installed Pulse Audio Volume Control and have tried all the configurations to no avail. One thing that I have noticed is that under the pulse configurations my SB Audigy c
[00:12] <TheMaster> Got cutoff at "I have noticed is that under the pulse configurations my SB Audigy "
[00:13] <PsyCl0ne> TheMaster: Sorry, the card does not appear. I only have to option to configure my built in sound card.
[00:13] <PsyCl0ne> I only have the option to configure my built in sound card. Can anyone please assist me in trouble shooting this?
[00:13] <PsyCl0ne> (06:12:25 PM) TheMaster: Got cutoff at "I have noticed is that under the pulse configurations my SB Audigy "
[00:13] <PsyCl0ne> lol :/
[00:13] <hawkal> TheMaster: okay for example the download complete notification is of no use to me but I see no way to disable it.
[00:14] <PsyCl0ne> Also on a side note, I have tested the speakers and they are working. The SB Audigy should also be functional, still have yet to smell burning components lol
[00:15] <TheMaster> Well, you could kill notification-daemon, that'd do it, no?
[00:20] <PsyCl0ne> Actually, I am going to quickly logout and then back in. lets see if I fixed it.
[00:20] <PsyCl0ne> brb
[00:20] <TheMaster> hawkal: Did you try stopping the notification-daemon?
[00:22] <hawkal> TheMaster no I haven't I wasn't sure if it was a permanent solution
[00:23] <TheMaster> Try that first, then you can disable that on startup (or remove it) if that works.
[00:23] <TheMaster> I've never had to, so I don't exactly know how it's done.
[00:23] <hawkal> TheMaster actually I just noticed I must have already disabled it from startup
[00:25] <PsyCl0ne> back, and it didnt work...
[00:25] <TheMaster> hawkal: I installed the xfce one, is notify-osd what is currently bheing used? I don't remember the default.
[00:26] <TheMaster> http://askubuntu.com/questions/13464/how-can-i-customize-disable-notification-bubbles could also see if that works.
[00:29] <PsyCl0ne> Ok here is another question, is there a way that I can do a fresh lubuntu install while leaving my home directory untouched?
[00:30] <TheMaster> Should be an option in the installer, I remember doing it a while back when I didn't want to. :P
[00:31] <hawkal> TheMaster: no it's not using notify-osd
[00:31] <TheMaster> Alright, just making sure.  Link do any good?
[00:32] <hawkal> TheMaster no it said the file doesn't exist
[00:36] <hawkal> I just tried creating the file to see if that would do anything but it didn't
[00:37] <burrito_> can't get flash to install correctly on lubuntu 11.04 then 11.10
[00:37] <burrito_> youtube displays 'missing plugin'
[00:44] <hawkal> burrito how are you installing flash and what browser are you using?
[00:46] <burrito_> hawkal, i've tried installing it via lubuntu-restricted-extras, then ubuntu-restricted-extras, then adobe-flashplugin..  I"m using chrome
[00:46] <burrito_> I uninstalled flash installer before installing adobe-flashplugin, as well
[00:47] <burrito_> then, i figured i'd update my system since i had just installed it and had not updated yet.  So, I went ahead and updated and upgraded, as well.  Still no luck.
[00:47] <hawkal> Burrito_ so you've tried installing it manually by getting the plugin from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?
[00:47] <burrito_> I enable the third party repos, too..
[00:48] <burrito_> No, i had not downloaded from the website
[00:48] <burrito_> hawkal, do you think I should give that a shot?  everything I've done so far has been in synaptic
[00:49] <hawkal> yes I would, that's how I installed it
[00:49] <burrito_> okay, cool.  I'll give that a shot then..  thanks
[00:49] <hawkal> You just have to find the plugin folder for chrome
[00:49] <hawkal> you're welcome
[00:53] <burrito_> f!?k I just found that removing cairo dock killed my mysql server..  looks like i'll be trying that out later..
[01:15] <burrito_> hawkal, still no luck..  the website's download link is for firefox, but when I click on it anway, it just opens another blank browser window
[01:15] <burrito_> still cannot get flash to install in Lubuntu 11.10
[01:25] <burrito_> fuck it.  i'm going back to installing ubuntu and lxde for my shit.  this lubuntu distro has went to hell.
[01:39] <stlsaint> so angry...smh
[01:42] <sere> why when I used my sda5 with rhythem box  work with that file system
[01:42] <sere> nothin really
[05:17] <colonelqubit> How does Orca run under lubuntu? Hopefully a little zippier on older hardware than stock ubuntu.
[05:18] <TheMaster> I have no idea, but I'd *guess* more compatible with Ubuntu.
[05:20] <colonelqubit> I saw some notes on the mailing list (e.g. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04009.html), but didn't see any recent news
[05:21] <colonelqubit> I was hoping that 12.04 lubuntu or xubuntu might have good enough screen reader support so that I could help train some friends to use the computer by themselves.
[05:22] <colonelqubit> I might just bite the bullet and upgrade their hardware
[05:32] <mysteriousdarren> burrito: why 11.10?
[05:40] <AquaGirlLove> Hi.
[05:41] <mi3> hello
[05:41] <AquaGirlLove> I recently installed XAMPP onto Lubuntu and have been able to access it from the terminal.
[05:42] <AquaGirlLove> However, when I create a Desktop file to launch when I click the icon, the terminal doesn't display XAMPP.
[05:42] <AquaGirlLove> The terminal stalls and has a cursor blinking.
[05:44] <AquaGirlLove> I am using a "sudo" command.  Not sure if that might be an issue.
[05:50] <silverlion> good morning. anyone an idea why the shockwave flash plugin - that i have installed - keeps constantly crashing?
[06:11] <AquaGirlLove> Anyone around?
[06:11] <silverlion> AquaGirlLove: surely
[06:11] <AquaGirlLove> I am having trouble getting ELinks to work in Lubuntu.
[06:12] <silverlion> sorry never used it
[06:12] <AquaGirlLove> It is a terminal based web browser.
[06:15] <silverlion> AquaGirlLove: i am really sorry but all i could do is looking at google together with you :(
[06:16] <AquaGirlLove> That's okay.  I am checking with the Ubuntu channel.
[06:19] <bioterror> AquaGirlLove, paste the .desktop file's exec line
[06:21] <pungi-man> AquaGirlLove, You can modify the link in the folder /usr/share/applications
[06:21] <bioterror> pungi-man, she created the file
[06:22] <AquaGirlLove> The people in the #ubuntu channel mentioned something about an lxterminal -e elinks
[06:24] <silverlion> bioterror could use help too :D
[06:25] <bioterror> silverlion, it's a conspiracy by Adobe! they dont want us to browse internet
[06:27] <silverlion> bioterror: great ... but how am I able to watch videos of tv shows now?
[06:30] <silverlion> well at least i am able to do the basic "home"work in my home office again *yeah* three nights of installation were not useless ;)
[06:35] <TheMaster> Open a terminal and type  dpkg -l |grep flash   and see what you have.
[06:41] <silverlion> TheMaster: will after i sent a crash report to lubuntu
[06:43] <silverlion> TheMaster: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/968482/ << result is here
[06:44] <TheMaster> !partner
[06:44] <silverlion> TheMaster: sorry?
[06:45] <TheMaster> Follow that, then sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer* && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[06:45] <silverlion> TheMaster: will do
[06:48] <silverlion> TheMaster: i know silly question but to be sure. the quotationmarks before deb and after partner are to be left out, right?
[06:49] <silverlion> disregard ... found answer myself
[06:52] <silverlion> TheMaster: Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'adobe-flashplugin' has no installation candidate <<< ????? what's this about?
[06:53] <TheMaster> .....You need to update package list first..
[06:54] <silverlion> sudo apt-update ???
[06:54] <silverlion> gosh i am so greenhorn :/
[06:54] <TheMaster> No, sudo apt-get update
[06:55] <TheMaster> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/apt-get
[06:56] <silverlion> TheMaster: sorry for wasting your time :D
[07:01] <silverlion> TheMaster: still getting flash crashes :$
[07:03] <milen8204> hello all I have upgraded my Lubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 , now my mouse doesn`t work, my LAN card too, I suppose and other staff, any ideas what can I do
[07:06] <silverlion> TheMaster: sorry connection went down :(
[07:22] <pungi-man> go to additional driver and check it out
[07:45] <silverlion> Unit193: i did what you said with "updating and adding the repository. a
[08:54] <ilija> hy
[08:54] <ilija> i need help about login problem
[08:55] <ilija> when i log in i got message "Ssession: warning: unable to write to /tmp: X session may exit with an errpr"
[08:56] <ilija> i am using lubuntu 11.10
[09:14] <audacyo> bonjour, hello
[09:14] <audacyo> is there french people ?
[09:14] <audacyo> i would know
[09:15] <audacyo> does anyone test kdenlive on lubuntu ?
[09:16] <audacyo> for mp3 and dvdplay, we just have to add medibuntu and lame and libdvdcss2 ?
[09:16] <audacyo> ??
[09:16] <audacyo> PLEASE
[09:17] <audacyo> bonjour, hello [11:14] <audacyo> is there french people ? [11:14] <audacyo> i would know [11:15] <audacyo> does anyone test kdenlive on lubuntu ? [11:16] <audacyo> for mp3 and dvdplay, we just have to add medibuntu and lame and libdvdcss2 ?
[09:18] <audacyo> Ok Thanks for nothing !
[09:18] <audacyo> Have a good life !
[09:22] <head_victim> audacyo, it's the same as any Ubuntu variant, but you didn't hang around to find out
[09:22] <head_victim> And ilija, didn't either :
[09:28] <gordonjcp> head_victim: that does my head in
[09:28] <gordonjcp> hung around for *four* minutes
[09:28] <gordonjcp> at 10am on a saturday
[09:38] <head_victim> It's nearly 8pm here ;)
[10:55] <Janyk> Hello!
[10:55] <Janyk> Does lubuntu have an live cd?
[10:57] <phillw> Janyk: yes :)
[10:57] <phillw> 4 of them, pick which one you need :)
[10:58] <phillw> http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu
[11:04] <Janyk> Thank you phillw
[11:04] <Janyk> No ops in here?
[11:06] <Janyk> Is it the Desktop CD?
[11:06] <Janyk> at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/
[11:12] <phillw> Janyk: there are ops, none of who wear badges.
[11:13] <phillw> Janyk: which system do you need? i686 (32 bit for older computers), i586 (for even older computers) or AMD64 for modern computers?
[11:29] <Janyk> uh
[11:29] <Janyk> there is XP on the pc
[11:30] <Janyk> but i want ubuntu
[11:30] <Janyk> and there is 512 ram in it
[11:31] <infiltrato> hello
[11:32] <infiltrato> I am upgrading my lubuntu to 12.04 and it asks me wether I want to use lxdm or lightdm
[11:32] <infiltrato> what is the recomended option?
[11:34] <phillw> infiltrato: 12.04 lubuntu switched to lightdm, so that would be my recoomendation
[11:34] <infiltrato> like in what will be lighter for my fossil laptop
[11:34] <infiltrato> ah okay
[11:34] <phillw> Janyk: grab the i686 version of lubuntu
[11:36] <infiltrato> thank you phillw
[11:36] <Janyk> Okay!
[11:38] <phillw> infiltrato: we switched to lightdm because it has wider base of support. Xubuntu went with it at 11.10 and kindly ironed out some bugs. Lubuntu has only few devs, so we do liase closely with the other teams (who also have but a few devs!).
[11:38] <infiltrato> okay
[11:40] <infiltrato> it's a pity that there are a few devs because I like lubuntu
[11:40] <infiltrato> I am grateful to the lubuntu devs
[11:44] <phillw> infiltrato: we have enough to progress, just not enough to support our older releases, hence 12.04 not being an LTS
[11:48] <infiltrato> phillw: do you mean that I could stay with lxdm but it won't have much bug support in the future?
[11:51] <phillw> lxdm will not be further developed, it is lxde specific, with lightdm we can share what precious resources we have across several teams.
[11:53] <infiltrato> but would I experience a worse performance with lightdm, considering that I have a laptop with almost no ram?
[11:53] <infiltrato> I mean, I got lubuntu because even xubuntu goes like a snail in there
[11:53] <head_victim> I don't think anyone has got specific benchmarks.
[11:53] <head_victim> Personally, I'd move to the one that's now default unless you have a good reason to stay on the old one.
[11:54] <infiltrato> yeah, it's only the session starter
[11:57] <infiltrato> well thank you all
[11:57] <infiltrato> I have to go
[11:57] <infiltrato> godbye
[12:14] <exxtreme> why is lubuntu 11.04 taking so long to download.  IE is saying "greater than 12 hours.
[12:15] <exxtreme> and lubuntu torrents seem to be non-existant
[12:16] <phillw> exxtreme: the servers are probably still hammered
[12:16] <phillw> which lubuntu 11.04 do you need?
[12:16] <exxtreme> phillw...the official 11.04
[12:17] <phillw> exxtreme: give me a few minutes, I'll see if I can grab it to the secondary server for you.
[12:17] <exxtreme> ok thanks
[12:18] <bioterror> 11% [[12:18] <bioterror> how much faster it should come?
[12:19] <exxtreme> well i have adsl2+ at 5mbs and it's horribly slow here
[12:19] <bioterror> I was using http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/
[12:21] <exxtreme> i need 11.04 or 10.04 for this old mothboard i'm trying to revive.  12.04 & 11.10 don't work.
[12:21] <bioterror> why doesnt 12.04 work?
[12:21] <exxtreme> kernel panic
[12:21] <bioterror> and the reason is?
[12:22] <bioterror> does it say something about PAE?
[12:22] <phillw> exxtreme: the 10.04 is already on http://thesii.org/iso/
[12:22] <phillw> that is for i586 etc.
[12:22] <exxtreme> bioterror, i'd have to reboot to check the error again.  Can PAE be disabled?
[12:23] <phillw> exxtreme: is that with the alternate for i686? As that ships as non-PAE
[12:23] <bioterror> yes
[12:23] <phillw> bioterror: is Desktop 12.04 also non-PAE? I think it is?
[12:23] <phillw> for i686
[12:24] <exxtreme> i'm using the official 1110 that kernel panics...12.04 black screen of death.  Not sure why 12.04 stopped as i saw no text.   Both official versions.
[12:25] <exxtreme> where's the alternate isos?
[12:25] <phillw> exxtreme: just how old is the computer.. also what is the processor in it?
[12:25] <exxtreme> just a moment..rebooting.
[12:26] <phillw> okes
[12:28] <exxtreme> motherboard:  Acer VERITON 3700GX.  Bios 6.00 PG   Sept 1, 2005.
[12:28] <exxtreme> rebooting 11.10...
[12:30] <exxtreme> celeron processor 2.8ghz i think
[12:30] <exxtreme> definitely kernel panic.
[12:30] <bioterror> what does the kernel panic say
[12:30] <exxtreme> The CD is fine becuase i installed it on a different PC
[12:31] <bioterror> usually it says something specific
[12:31] <phillw> exxtreme: but is the cd drive on that computer fine?
[12:31] <exxtreme> the DVD should be fine because i installed XP with it.  (worked)...
[12:32] <exxtreme> error says:  unable to read inode...unable to read metadata....input output error
[12:32] <exxtreme> sqauashfs error...not syncing..attemnpted to kill init!
[12:32] <bioterror> hmmm
[12:33] <exxtreme> that's cutting a long story short. ^^^
[12:33] <exxtreme> I'll try phillw's link or the altenate iso's...
[12:34] <exxtreme> or...is there a boot line parameter that might help?
[12:34] <bioterror> I would go with the 12.04 alternative
[12:34] <exxtreme> ok will try thanks
[12:34] <bioterror> or even better
[12:35] <bioterror> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/mini.iso grab this
[12:35] <bioterror> and then when you get to the command line
[12:35] <bioterror> you run command: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <exxtreme> bioterror..downloading. thanks
[12:36] <bioterror> should be quite fast download
[12:36] <bioterror> mini.iso > * ;)
[12:36] <HeatFire> I have a problem with installing lubuntu on my desktop-comp.. something somewhere makes it lagg like crazy..
[12:36] <phillw> bioterror: I think we had this covered at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall Please feel free to edit!
[12:37] <bioterror> HeatFire, grab that mini.iso too :D
[12:37] <HeatFire> ok:)
[12:37] <HeatFire> was hoping it was simple:P
[12:37] <bioterror> I dunno about your hardware
[12:37] <bioterror> is it old or what
[12:37] <HeatFire> pretty new.. I7 970 CPU and some P67 motherbord i think:P
[12:37] <bioterror> okay
[12:38] <bioterror> HeatFire, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso try this one then
[13:19] <HeatFire_> bioterror problem is not solved
[13:24] <HeatFire_> only mouse moves nothing else:P
[13:32] <HeatFire_> question is.. what hardware support does lubuntu mix that ubuntu has?
[14:48] <tbrown> I was wondering download lubuntu on a vmware player is the smart way to go:) Because I want to learn ubuntu:)
[17:28] <Khmerog> hi
[17:29] <Khmerog> does lubuntu have any widgets?
[17:29] <bioterror> what are those?
[17:31] <Khmerog> desktop applications..like a notepad
[17:32] <Khmerog> instead of having to launch the notepad application you can just write a note on your desktop, thats an example of a widget
[17:33] <Khmerog> or a app that shows your pc or video card temperature
[17:33] <Myrtti> Khmerog: there's plenty of different widget apps thhat you can install separately
[17:33] <Unit193> Conky, or xpad.
[17:33] <Myrtti> or screenlets, adesklets or gdesklets
[17:33] <Khmerog> if theres plenty im having very bad luck finding them
[17:33] <Khmerog> ohh tank you
[17:33] <Khmerog> i will search for those
[17:36] <phillw> Khmerog: lubuntu + all the extras == Ubuntu :)
[17:49] <Khmerog> lol soo true phillw..the reason i dont have ubuntu on my laptop becuase its a Pentium 4 + 2GB RAM = old laptop
[17:49] <Khmerog> do you think with all thesewidget apps will slow me Laptop down
[17:50] <bioterror> ofcourse they will
[17:50] <phillw> Khmerog: how do I put this politely .... do goldfish drink water?
[17:50] <Khmerog> lol
[17:50] <Khmerog> damn u guys
[17:51] <Khmerog> anyone running ubuntu with a hardware specs older than mine?
[17:51] <phillw> Khmerog: IDK, go ask ubuntu :)
[17:53] <phillw> Khmerog: from their release notes :- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#System_Requirements
[17:54] <bioterror> some of my friends are using XP as Ubuntu is too heavy :D
[17:54] <bioterror> actually, I cant blame them
[17:54] <bioterror> :D
[17:54] <bioterror> you can remove lots of services and unneeded stuff from XP
[17:56] <phillw> bioterror: or you can go via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall and ADD ehat you want :D
[17:56] <phillw> s/ehat/what
[17:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> where *. conf setting does not show thumbnails in pcmanfm&
[18:12] <fragalot> Hello. I'm trying to set up an old computer to play some music for me, it's got an internal sound card (snd_hda_intel), and a PCI one (snd_ca0106)
[18:13] <fragalot> I'm having some problems getting it to select the PCI card as the default output. (eg. i've changed alsa_base so the pci one has index 0 and the onboard has index 1... resulting in that neither of them give me any output now...)
[18:14] <bioterror> you should use .asoundrc
[18:14] <bioterror> for choosing card
[18:14] <bioterror> aplay -L lists your devices
[18:14] <bioterror> and find a correct one with command
[18:15] <bioterror> aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[18:15] <bioterror> where you change 1,7 with wat -L gives you
[18:15] <bioterror> as a gentoo user, that should be easy thing to do
[18:15] <fragalot> Thanks i'll try that.
[18:16] <fragalot> ;)
[18:16] <bioterror> at least, you have installed distro which I failed to install. lulz
[18:16] <fragalot> :D
[18:16] <bioterror> when you find the correct one
[18:16] <fragalot> I'm also finding some issues changing the default keymap :/ lxkeymap just crashes.. seems that there's a bug report on it already, but that's an issue for later.
[18:17] <bioterror> we can configure the .asoundrc then
[18:17] <fragalot> alright, lemme play around with aplay then
[18:18] <herpy> I know a way that is easier
[18:18] <phillw> fragalot: the lxkeymap bug should now have been squished... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxkeymap/+bug/945603
[18:19] <phillw> if you are running that latest version, please do shout!
[18:20] <fragalot> hm
[18:20] <fragalot> tried plughw:0,1 to 0,3
[18:20] <fragalot> none seem to output anything
[18:20] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:20] <fragalot> everything shows up as unmuted in alsamixer too
[18:20] <fragalot> phillw: cool :)
[18:21] <bioterror> fragalot, can you pastebin your aplay -L
[18:21] <herpy> Got it working fragalot?
[18:21] <fragalot> bioterror: sure:
[18:21] <fragalot> herpy: keymap or audio? (both not yet :P)
[18:21] <fragalot> bioterror: got a preference for pastebin?
[18:21] <herpy> the audio, you said there is no sound?
[18:21] <bioterror> paste.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <bioterror> for example
[18:22] <fragalot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/969764/
[18:22] <fragalot> I think I know what I did wrong >.>
[18:23] <bioterror> pulse :G
[18:23] <fragalot> or maybe not.
[18:23] <fragalot> bioterror: if that works, that's fine by me. :)
[18:23] <bioterror> sorry, it was aplay -l
[18:23] <bioterror> with small -l ; )
[18:24] <fragalot> bioterror: http://paste.ubuntu.com/969766/
[18:24] <fragalot> derp
[18:24] <bioterror> fragalot, with small -l
[18:24] <fragalot> bioterror: http://paste.ubuntu.com/969767/
[18:24] <bioterror> not the capital letter
[18:24] <bioterror> thanks
[18:25] <fragalot> yeah I selected everything to delete the old stuff, forgot that also overwrote my paste buffer xD
[18:28] <bioterror> but if you have pulseaudio installed, you could use pavucontrol
[18:28] <fragalot> Idon't have pulseaudio installed yet I think
[18:28]  * fragalot takes a look into doing this
[18:29] <bioterror> are you sure?
[18:29] <fragalot> not really
[18:29] <fragalot> lol
[18:29] <fragalot> ubuntu is all foreign to me
[18:29] <fragalot> :/
[18:30] <bioterror> dpkg -l |grep pulse
[18:31] <fragalot> libpulse-mainloop-glib0 and libpulse0 show up
[18:32] <fragalot> am I right in assuming that a simple apt-get install pavucontrol would be useful?
[18:32] <fragalot> or is that setting myself up for a whole world of trouble
[18:32] <bioterror> yes
[18:32] <bioterror> not all
[18:32] <fragalot> here goes!
[18:32] <fragalot> this may take a while... it's a 2.6Ghz Celeron
[18:32] <fragalot> lol
[18:32] <bioterror> we are used to celeron users
[18:33] <fragalot> ^_^ it's a big upgrade from the previous Pmmx 200Mhz I used to use for this
[18:33] <fragalot> pavucontrol: Connection to PulseAudio failed.
[18:33] <herpy> fragalot
[18:34] <fragalot> herpyderpy
[18:34] <herpy> did alsa load the right soundcard?
[18:34] <fragalot> That's what i'm trying to figure out.
[18:34] <fragalot> alsamixer shows the PCI one as CARD0 and the onboard as CARD1
[18:34] <herpy> go to terminal and type in alsamixer
[18:34] <fragalot> neither appear to output anything.
[18:35] <fragalot> herpy: top-left "CARD:" thing shows the PCI one as the one that's loaded.
[18:35] <herpy> I see, is it a usb device?
[18:35] <fragalot> it's a PCI device.
[18:35] <fragalot> eg. dedicated sound card
[18:36] <herpy> is it the right sound card?
[18:36] <fragalot> as far as I can tell, yes.
[18:37] <herpy> is anything muted in alsamixer?
[18:38] <fragalot> nope
[18:40] <fragalot> doing a reboot now just for good measure
[18:43] <fragalot> That seems to have fixed pavucontrol
[18:44] <fragalot> That one kindly shows a VU meter bar going haywire, which is a good sign, means my card is selected
[18:44] <fragalot> now to just get it to actually OUTPUT something ^_^
[18:46] <fragalot> need to find the right profile I think
[18:48] <fragalot> BINGO
[18:48] <fragalot> disabled SPDIF
[18:49] <herpy> Sweet!
[18:50] <fragalot> Well that was fun :P
[18:50] <herpy> first using linux is a bit of a laerning curve but once you get used to it you will never go back to windows as a primary os ever again.
[18:50] <fragalot> now on to get lxkeymap to actually WORK on this thing.
[18:50] <fragalot> herpy: I use Gentoo in daily life
[18:51] <fragalot> i'm used to linux:p
[18:51] <herpy> ah
[18:51] <fragalot> I just never figured disabling SPIDF output would make the analog work
[18:51] <herpy> well using 2 differents oses in linux is also totally different XD
[18:52] <fragalot> True, true :D
[18:52] <fragalot> hm
[18:52] <fragalot> the audio icon in the icon tray doesn't actually DO anything
[18:52] <fragalot> lol
[18:53] <fragalot> but removing it and putting it back fixed that too >.>
[19:03] <fragalot> hm
[19:04] <fragalot> launchpad tells me the lxkeymap bug is fixed and released, yet I can't seem to figure out how to actually get mine to work then
[19:06] <herpy> is your system updated?
[19:06] <fragalot> yes
[19:07] <fragalot> I'll just deal with it and wait a while longer and see if it fixes itself in a later update.
[19:08] <Khmerog> I like turtles
[19:10] <herpy> I like trains
[19:19] <Khmerog> my province of alberta has no passrnger trains :(
[20:06] <murple> I have an old (8 years?) intel iMac. I have previously used Ubuntu and not had any problems with my soundcard/speakers, this is my first attempt at using Ubuntu + LXDE and I do not know how to get my souncard to function properly -I can't hear a single sound! I have been reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and everything seems fine as far as I can tell, although I am not an especially experience Linux user.
[20:07] <bioterror> fragalot, you just muted spdif? maybe that could help murple too ,)
[20:07] <murple> Can anyone assist me in troubleshooting my soundcard? As I mentioned it has worked with previous versions of Ubuntu, so it should be easily achieved.
[20:08] <fragalot> bioterror: could be - I just muted it in alsamixer
[20:08] <KM0201> murple: cant say it will fix your problems, but when i've had sound problems on lubuntu, i just install pulseaudio and pavucontrol, tweak the settings, and usually it'll start working
[20:08] <fragalot> bioterror: my current conundrum is trying to find something to easilly export/print some handout vouchers for the captive portal i've just set up :P (it outputs a .csv file with the voucher codes in it)
[20:08] <fragalot> without having to write something myself
[20:09] <murple> KM0201: When I run pavucontrol it says Connection to PulseAudio failed. I have tried this several times before but I do not know what to do.
[20:09] <KM0201> murple: diid you install pulseaudio?
[20:10] <murple> KM0201: This is the specific message: http://i.imgur.com/D5sZF.png
[20:10] <murple> KM0201: I believe so, I'll check
[20:10] <murple> KM0201: No, it doesn't look like it was installed.
[20:10] <KM0201> murple: that would explain why its not working
[20:11] <murple> KM0201: I do feel like this is something I should have tried/figured out by myself, I have really been trying for quite some time.
[20:11] <murple> KM0201: Let's hope so!!
[20:12] <murple> KM0201: Well, I no longer get the error in pavucontrol, I can now use the application. I still don't hear any sound though, do I need to reboot or refresh some drivers or something like that?
[20:12] <murple> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav still doesn't work.
[20:13] <KM0201> murple: open up a nice, long file (maybe a long youtube video)... on the configuration tab, try changing to different configurations, etc... when you find one that works, sound will start playing (from the long youtube video)
[20:14] <murple> KM0201: I've had grooveshark.com open for several hours so that's already taken care of. pavucontrol -> configuration reports no cards available for configuration.
[20:14] <KM0201> murple: try restarting
[20:14] <murple> KM0201: reboot system?
[20:14] <KM0201> ..
[20:14] <KM0201> yes
[20:15] <murple> KM0201: Can I come back here and beg for your kind help when I'
[20:15] <murple> 've rebooteD?
[20:15] <KM0201> yes
[20:15] <murple> brb
[20:22] <murple> KM0201: Thank you so much for your help, my computer sounds perfect now.
[20:22] <KM0201> murple: np.. glad you got it worked out.
[20:22] <KM0201> kinda surprised you had to restart though ( i don't recall ever having to do that)... i'm sure there was probably a way to manually start pulseaudio, but.. i didn't know how.
[20:23] <murple> KM0201: I installed Ubuntu Server and I suppose that does not include pulseaudio? I problably should ahve mentioned that.
[20:23] <murple> KM0201: What is pulseaudio exactly? Is is a driver thing?
[20:23] <KM0201> murple: thats correct, also.. when you install lubuntu (from the lubuntu iso) it doesn't include pulseaudio either.. so..
[20:23] <KM0201> !pulseaudio
[20:24] <murple> KM0201: Oh wow, so everyone using Lubuntu with sound needs to manually install pulseaudio the way I just did?
[20:24] <KM0201> murple: no
[20:24] <KM0201> some sound cards, work just fine w/ alsa (lubuntu's sound server)...
[20:25] <murple> I see. Does pulseaudio require alsa or compeltely replace it?
[20:25] <KM0201> i've just found, rather than dicking w/ alsa for 3-4 days (and yes, i did that once).. it's easier to just install pulseaudio, and configure it.
[20:25] <KM0201> murple: now that, i'm not sure... i think it completely replaces it.. but i'm not 100% sure
[20:25] <murple> KM0201: Doesn't matter, it was a stupid question, I'll read a bit on the link you posted
[20:26] <KM0201> not a stupid question.. i don't admit to be an alsa/pulse audio expert.. i've just ran into the sound issue plenty of times, and i try some basic tweaks on alsa, and if it doesn't work (usually doesn't) i just install pulse and pavucontrol, and I usually have sound in 2min
[20:27] <murple> KM0201: I had a hell of a time to get my wifi card to work as well. I'm still quite a linux newbie and every time I install a new distro I have problems with my network card.
[20:28] <KM0201> murple: what type of wifi card do you have?
[20:28] <murple> This time I ended up having to install Wicd to get it to work, and had a hard time uninstalling nm-applet which I couldn't get to work at all. Also, upon booting it says sometrhingh like waiting for network configuration... waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration and finally continuing boot without complete network configuration.
[20:29] <murple> I believe it has something to do with the fact that I have edited /etc/interfaces or something like that but I am not quite sure.
[20:29] <KM0201> oh ok.
[20:29] <KM0201> were you trying to get your wireless working, under ubuntu server?  or after you installed the GUI?
[20:30] <murple> Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g [14e4:4312]
[20:30] <murple> KM0201: Before I installed the GUI I was completely lost, after a little less so.
[20:30] <fragalot> Huzzah it's crashed.
[20:30] <fragalot> :<
[20:30] <murple> I have to install b43, fwcutter, or b43-installer or heaven knows what.
[20:31] <fragalot> Well that's for tomorrow.
[20:31] <fragalot> gnite all
[20:31] <KM0201> murple: hmm, usually the 4311 is pretty easy to install, the b43-installer, is in the repositories... as long as you have a temporary wired connection, takes about 2min
[20:31] <KM0201> !b43
[20:31] <KM0201> murple: might want to bookmark that for future reference
[20:31] <KM0201> lookks like the 4311 will use the STA or b43 driver
[20:32] <murple> KM0201: I installed that installer and I believe the card was functioning after that, but I couldn't get it to work as I couldn't get nm-applet to work either. Network Manager
[20:32] <KM0201> hmm, thats weird... did you restart after installing that package, or start the b43 module manually, like the instructions say?
[20:32] <murple> KM0201: Thanks for the link, it's one of the many I used to fix this.
[20:33] <KM0201> just seems kinda weird that nm-applet would not work at all, and wicd would work flawlessly
[20:33] <murple> KM0201: I really tried a lot of things to get it to work, it's hard to say at this point exactly what I did and what made it work.
[20:33] <KM0201> murple: understood.
[20:34] <murple> It seemed to me that Network Manager wasn't functioning? Only the nm-applet? I don't know, it only showed a greyed out text although I can't remember what exactly.
[20:34] <KM0201> murple: well, if you look at that link.. look at "step 3" under installing the b43 driver with internet access... those two commands, will activate the b43 driver w/o restarting (otherwise, you'll have to restart)
[20:34] <murple> I remember using nm-applet from my previous Ubuntu Desktop installations.
[20:35] <murple> I've definetly did modprobe, but not sure if I did it exactly like explained there.-
[20:36] <KM0201> well, that could be part of the issue.... anyway, hopefully its all resolved for you
[20:36] <murple> anyhow, at this point, the wifi seems to work but there are two small annoyances. The first is that it takes very long time to boot because I've mucked around in configuration files, I believe I need to remove auto wlan0 from the interfaces configuration file, does that make sense?
[20:36] <murple> The second annoyance is that I need to enter my user password in wicd after every reboot.
[20:37] <KM0201> murple: hmm, now that i don't know... i think that has something to do w/ stored passwords
[20:38] <KM0201> murple: are you using auto login?
[20:38] <murple> Yes.
[20:38] <KM0201> thats why.
[20:39] <murple> Is there a simple workaround?
[20:39] <KM0201> yes, but i'm tryign to remember it (haven't done it in forever)
[20:39] <KM0201> its something in ubuntu-keyring
[20:40] <murple> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776406
[20:40] <KM0201> you could try it.
[20:40] <KM0201> shoudln't hurt.
[20:42] <KM0201> murple: actually, you shouldn't need that .deb, since you already have installed wicd
[20:42] <murple> What do I do here: 4. Go to System > Preferences > Sessions. In the "Startup Programs" tab, click the "Add" button
[20:43] <murple> That's actually another thing I'd like to know, can I easily install some of Ubuntu Desktop's preferences programs? Is there a bundle perhaps?
[20:43] <KM0201> murple: under... i think the preferences menu, is the "sessions" entry... (not using lxde at the moment).. click that, then click on the "startup" tab
[20:45] <murple> You're right, but actually, I don't need step 4 because the program already starts on boot, I think I might only need the next step.
[20:45] <murple> And where do I find that??
[20:45] <KM0201> murple: honestly, i don't know, hold on
[20:45] <murple> I already have automatic login activated...
[20:45] <murple> blah.
[20:46] <KM0201> right
[20:46] <KM0201> ive done this before, i just can't remember how to resolve this
[20:46] <murple> I don't get it, the title matched my problem precisely but all of the steps seemed useless.
[20:46] <KM0201> honestly, i think i just deleted my keyring (not really advised)
[20:47] <murple> nor understood.
[20:47] <KM0201> murple: well, those instructions are old,
[20:49] <murple> One last question then, how can I go about to troubleshoot the faulty network configuration upon boot? "Waiting for network configuration.... waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration and finally continuing without complete network configuration"
[20:50] <KM0201> murple: unfortunately i don't know
[20:50] <murple> okay.
[20:50] <KM0201> maybe bioterror or Unit193 can help you with that.
[20:50] <murple> Well thank you very much for your help
[20:50] <murple> My "cohabitant" needs my attentiont now anyhow, I really appreciate your help. Have a great day.
[20:50] <KM0201> no problem
[20:50] <KM0201> best of luck
[20:51] <Unit193> Ciao.
[20:51] <murple> thanks! bye!
[21:02] <ChaosColor> hey there
[21:03] <ChaosColor> I want to hide most folders of one of my imap accounts in sylpheed because it shows everything in my home directory
[21:04] <SAKKED> why cant i fin AMSN at software center?
[21:04] <SAKKED> i updated lubuntu to v 12 and somehow it deleted aMsn
[21:04] <SAKKED> :D
[21:04] <ChaosColor> I thought just deleting them from the xml was enough, but unfortunately sylpheed decided to recreate the file
[21:05] <KM0201> ChaosColor: hmm, interesting.. look slike its not in the repos anymore
[21:05] <Unit193> SAKKED: amsn isn't in the repo anymore.
[21:05] <KM0201> oops, that was for SAKKED
[21:07] <soupeee> My netbook want's to update to ubuntu-12.04 but it'll be too big if the 11 series is anything to go by. Is there a lubuntu variant 12.04?
[21:07] <ChaosColor> yes there is
[21:07] <ChaosColor> I'm running it right now
[21:07] <soupeee> how do I apt-get it?
[21:07] <SAKKED> Unit193: why its not anymore?
[21:08] <Unit193> Could be unmaintained upstream, unfixed security bugs, etc.
[21:08] <KM0201> SAKKED: probably because it sucks...   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/amsn/0.98.4-0ubuntu3   (there's builds there you can download)
[21:09] <Unit193> But I'd recommend you find another client.
[21:09] <KM0201> same..
[21:09] <SAKKED> ok
[21:09] <bioterror> only reason to use amsn was that file transfers was faster than pidgins
[21:09] <bioterror> but that bug was fixed in pidgin
[21:10] <ChaosColor> soupeee, are you running ubuntu?
[21:10] <SAKKED> so what do u guys recommend?
[21:10] <KM0201> SAKKED: i guess it depends on your need.
[21:10] <Unit193> Could always go with pidgin. :P
[21:10] <SAKKED> i only need msn chat
[21:10] <ChaosColor> doesn't amsn also support webcam and those annoying sound thingies and some more stuff like that?
[21:11] <KM0201> ChaosColor: yeah
[21:11] <ChaosColor> I've been using pidgin since forever so I'm probably biased, but I'd recommend pidgin
[21:12] <KM0201> i like pidgin as well.. if you just need chat.. it'll work fine for that
[21:12] <Unit193> Na, use finch. ;)
[21:12] <KM0201> lol, ok, the best "practical" solution, is pidgin
[21:15] <soupeee> ChaosColor: no lubuntu. But it keeps wanting to upgrade to Ubuntu-12.04 which will not fit on my asus eee book
[21:15] <soupeee> put a comma after that "no"
[21:16] <ChaosColor> you might be fine with using the 12.04 sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade. not sure though
[21:16]  * soupeee goes to look at another channel
[21:17] <MrChrisDruif> <_<" does nobody read the release notes anymore?
[21:22] <ivoxova> hi
[21:22] <ChaosColor> so  apparently you just upgrade anyway and still get lubuntu >_>
[21:22] <ivoxova> how do i add the wine menu to the lubuntu 12.04 main menu?
[21:22] <ivoxova> i nstalled wine but it isnt in the menu
[21:23] <ivoxova> installed*
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> ChaosColor; the update-manager indeed says it'll upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but this is (unfortunately) a known bug. They hope to triage it in time for coming release.
[21:24] <SAKKED> any1 know some kind of gadget that shows RAM and CPU usage
[21:24] <SAKKED> like windows have many of those
[21:24] <bioterror> SAKKED, open terminal and type: top
[21:24] <Unit193> I have a fancy one called "htop", it's so much cooler. ;)
[21:25] <MrChrisDruif> SAKKED; top, htop < terminal based, there is a system monitor gui already installed (lxtask if I remember correctly)
[21:25] <bioterror> Unit193, why it's more fancier?
[21:25] <MrChrisDruif> Because it is...
[21:25] <ivoxova> um any one know how to fix the wine problem?
[21:26] <Unit193> ivoxova: Should by default, you can try to dpkg-reconfigure wine, or place it in the menu yourself as shown in the FAQs.
[21:27] <ChaosColor> SAKKED, there seem to be panel applets for that
[21:30] <ivoxova> wow thats complicated, is there a gui like alacarte?
[21:30] <Unit193> Not at this time, but in the making.
[21:31] <ivoxova> k well dpkg-reconfigure wine does nothing
[21:45] <SAKKED> i found few
[21:45] <SAKKED> indicators
[21:45] <SAKKED> but those are in the right corner
[21:46] <SAKKED> id like to have them on desktop
[21:51] <bioterror> SAKKED, http://ricecows.org/slubuntu.png like that?
[22:01] <SAKKED> bioterror: yeah
[22:01] <bioterror> install conky and configure
[22:08] <SAKKED> how can i configure?
[22:08] <SAKKED> i cant move that window anywhere
[22:16] <stlsaint> bioterror: no bueno with pfsense
[22:18] <bioterror> stlsaint, :(
[22:18] <bioterror> what's the problem?
[22:18] <SAKKED> cant overwrite the config file =/
[22:19] <stlsaint> http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,49078.0.html
[22:19] <bioterror> I have always had problems with usb pen drives
[22:20] <bioterror> so I've just used cd-r's
[22:20] <bioterror> that's based on BSD and they seem to lag behind all the others :D
[22:20] <stlsaint> no cd drive on server
[22:20] <bioterror> I used usb dvd-drive ;)
[22:23] <stlsaint> yea i guess i could try that
[22:24] <SAKKED> "opening file for writing doesnt work"
[22:24] <SAKKED> when i try to edit .config file
[22:31] <mikodo> Hi, I'm in Canada. An online buddy, in Hawaii, is having trouble with his (? older computer), crashing with Windows. How best to get him a disk for Lubuntu, if he cannot find someone to download it for him in Hawaii? Are the disks offered for free still, or can I purchase it somewhere from (? Ubuntu store) or what not to send to him?
[22:37] <bioterror> mikodo, that's actually your choise ;)
[22:37] <bioterror> you can buy cd's from some web pages
[22:37] <bioterror> or ask your friend to hit the Library
[22:38] <bioterror> atleast in here you can burn stuff in the libraries
[22:38] <bioterror> and LoCo has even spread CD's to Libraries
[22:39] <mikodo> bioterror, Hey, I never thought of the library ...
[22:39] <SAKKED> argh
[22:39] <SAKKED> looks like root "owns" the file
[22:40] <SAKKED> and i cant write anything
[22:40] <mikodo> This looks good if we have to go that way: http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/linux/lubuntu
[22:41] <bioterror> not a bad price
[22:41] <stlsaint> mikodo: i dont think ship it still does the cd gig
[22:42] <mikodo> stlsaint, Ya, I just say that
[22:43] <stlsaint> canonical shop does not have lubuntu
[22:44] <mikodo> stlsaint, Do you know why, is it for just Ubuntu? Just curious
[22:47] <mikodo> Thanks guys ... bye
[23:20] <stlsaint> bioterror: so burn to cd and hooked up external cd drive
[23:21] <stlsaint> still didnt work until i choose the boot from USB option at menu (option 3)