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snadgetheres no way to install quantal yet without installing precise and updating?04:34
snadgeits times like this.. i wish btrfs was stable ;)04:34
snadgei know that linux 3.4 breaks radeon graphics from experience.. so im not real keen on that just yet04:35
astraljavasnadge: Gotta wait for when the first dailies get spun.05:17
FyodorovnaWhen do the dailies start I forget?05:18
snadgedunno.. im not waiting05:20
snadgeim installing precise in a vm and dist upgrading :p05:20
astraljavaI have no idea, tbh, but the first alpha is already early June.05:20
snadge update-manager -d doesnt work for quantal ;)05:25
snadgesudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list05:27
snadge:1,$ s/precise/quantal/g05:27
snadgesudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:27
snadge:p05:27
snadgeok.. im running quantal05:39
snadgeexciting ;)05:39
snadgenooo... wobble windows has been removed :P05:44
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bcuraboyhow can i set nautilus to load thumbnails?reason: in chrome when i want to upload a photo to a social network,the preview of the file doesn't show up...10:11
bcuraboythere's no nautilus elementary for ubuntu 12.04?10:24
emwhat's new in the next ubuntu?12:52
penguin42em: I'm not sure that's decided yet - it looks like UDS for Q is in a couple of days time12:59
penguin42https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu  doesnt't show much assigned to quantal yet13:01
philinuxpenguin42: Regarding bug reporting in QQ. Is it worth reporting bugs before alpha 1 milestone?13:41
* penguin42 isn't sure13:41
penguin42philinux: I'd guess only if you can track it down to a particular packag13:42
philinuxpenguin42: The repos for QQ will be in a state of flux just now so I assumed bug reporting would be a drain on resources until alpha113:43
philinuxor at least somewhere between tool chain upload and alpha113:44
penguin42philinux: which is why I say if you can actually find there is definitely a bug in  a particular package then it's worth reporitng it just to make sure it gets fixed13:44
philinuxpenguin42: ah ok gotcha13:45
snadgeanyone know what the story for quantal is yet? :P13:45
snadgenew kernel.. new gcc... profit?13:45
philinuxsnadge: UDS 7th may13:46
snadgeso nobody is going to screw with anything else until then.. im guessing the new kernel and new compiler is just the base to work from13:46
snadgeso far so good.. i wouldn't bother reporting bugs with kernel 3.4, they're all pretty much known13:46
penguin42snadge: They're not necessarily that interrelated13:46
snadge3.4 was designed purely to upset people13:47
snadgebut it runs great in virtualbox.. so whos complaining13:47
philinuxsnadge: QQ is PP at the moment with minor changes so I would expect it to run ok13:48
snadgewell i wouldn't call the kernel minor personally13:48
snadgeit probably boots natively on 1 in 2 pcs13:48
snadgeforget about display drivers etc :p13:48
snadgeand gcc 4.6 -> 4.7 .. thats bound to break stuff13:49
snadgeand thats before the devs have even tried to break stuff.. thats just given breakage to existing stuff ;)13:49
snadgeentirely to be expected though13:50
philinuxsnadge: changelog not very busy https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.4.0-1.313:51
snadgethe ABI has changed.. thats probably the biggest thing13:51
snadgeim not sure what else has changed between precises 3.2 and 3.4 kernel13:51
snadgewith any luck fglrx and nvidia drivers will be working by the time the alpha rolls around13:53
philinuxsnadge: Kernel team > http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam/2012/05/02/quantal-linux-kernel-3-4-0-1-3-uploaded/13:53
snadgebut that probably depends on whether its decided to update xorg to 1.1213:53
philinuxDoesnt say much13:53
snadgeor not13:53
snadgedoes that basically mean that as it stands now.. theres not much difference between mainline 3.4 and quantal 3.4?13:54
penguin42snadge: fglrx and nvidia almost never work by the time the alpha comes out!13:54
snadgewell i managed to hack fglrx to work on 3.4 kernel13:54
snadgeand im not a kernel dev13:54
snadgenor do i have the source to fglrx.. i just kludged the headers a bit13:55
snadgebut it was a tad unstable13:55
snadgeso i do know from experience there are a few changes there that amd and nvidia will have to deal with.. but they're probably not massive13:55
snadgeit would be nice to get them onboard as quickly as possible.. because most people either dont have intel graphics.. or are unenthusiastic about using radeon/nouveau13:57
snadgethats probably the biggest thing that influences my decision whether to run it natively.. or in a vm.. asides from other general breakage13:58
philinuxsnadge: I always run the dev version on a disk 2 in my desktop14:10
philinuxdisk 1 has stable version on it14:10
snadgeyeah i wont do that until i can be sure that i can display something in X14:16
snadgethats kind of a pre-requisite for me14:17
philinuxsnadge: Thats how i've done it for ages.14:17
penguin42Radeon driver works decently these days - certainly for my HD4350; it's not supposed to be as fast as the fglrx, but certainly it gets to the display and runs KDE OK14:19
BluesKajHey all14:24
eagles0513875hi guys :)14:58
KarmaComaHi, on Kubuntu 12.04 every time i disable DPMS i find it enabled itself after sometime!17:15
bazhangKarmaComa, #ubuntu for that17:15
bazhangor #kubuntu17:15
KarmaComathey told me to go here for precise17:15
bazhangthey were wrong17:16
KarmaComaok thanks17:16
penguin42Precise was here until it was released17:16
KarmaComaoh ok17:17
penguin42+1 is always 'the next one'17:17
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BluesKajpenguin42, any word on when the "next one " is to be released for testing ?17:28
FernandoMiguelhey guys17:29
FernandoMiguelanyone having trouble booting up quantal?17:29
FernandoMiguelseems to be network related17:29
FernandoMiguelif I disable network interfaces, it boots ok17:29
BluesKajFernandoMiguel, using NM ?17:30
FernandoMiguelofc17:30
BluesKajwireless laptop I suppose17:30
FernandoMiguelI commented eth0 in interfaces and it works17:31
FernandoMiguelBluesKaj: I already tried reverting wireless tools to no efect17:31
FernandoMiguelbut yes, laptop  with intel wifi card17:31
FernandoMiguel09:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (rev 34)17:32
FernandoMiguel05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)17:32
BluesKajFernandoMiguel, any chance you have an ethernet connection nearby ...upgrading to a new alpha release OS is always tricky with wifi17:32
FernandoMiguelBluesKaj: I managed to get it working.... disabling interfaces17:33
BluesKajstrange17:33
FernandoMiguelBluesKaj: I've upgraded to quantal the day precise was released :)17:33
BluesKajdid you do the change the name in the sources.list procedure/trick?17:34
FernandoMiguelBluesKaj:  ofc17:36
FernandoMiguelthere is no other way to upgrade, this soon17:37
BluesKajFernandoMiguel, sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/' /etc/apt/sources.list ? ...you realize that there can be some dependency problems if the repos aren't finished upgrading all the packages themselves17:40
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FernandoMiguelBluesKaj: after working for a week?17:45
FernandoMiguelon two diff laptops, on diff days, diff network and repos? :)17:45
BluesKajreally FernandoMiguel , hmm, maybe i should test it then , i have a spare HDD that i'm going to install inside my pc , maybe I'll try it on that17:47
FernandoMiguelk17:48
FernandoMiguellet me know what you find17:48
FernandoMiguelI'll see if I can dig any logs and file a bug17:48
FernandoMiguelmaybe against NM17:48
BluesKajwell, I'm using ethernet , my house is totally wired with cat517:49
FernandoMiguelme too17:50
FernandoMiguelat least on this one17:50
FernandoMiguelon my office one it's wifi (broadcom)17:50
BluesKaj..BBL18:50
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