snadge | theres no way to install quantal yet without installing precise and updating? | 04:34 |
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snadge | its times like this.. i wish btrfs was stable ;) | 04:34 |
snadge | i know that linux 3.4 breaks radeon graphics from experience.. so im not real keen on that just yet | 04:35 |
astraljava | snadge: Gotta wait for when the first dailies get spun. | 05:17 |
Fyodorovna | When do the dailies start I forget? | 05:18 |
snadge | dunno.. im not waiting | 05:20 |
snadge | im installing precise in a vm and dist upgrading :p | 05:20 |
astraljava | I have no idea, tbh, but the first alpha is already early June. | 05:20 |
snadge | update-manager -d doesnt work for quantal ;) | 05:25 |
snadge | sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list | 05:27 |
snadge | :1,$ s/precise/quantal/g | 05:27 |
snadge | sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 05:27 |
snadge | :p | 05:27 |
snadge | ok.. im running quantal | 05:39 |
snadge | exciting ;) | 05:39 |
snadge | nooo... wobble windows has been removed :P | 05:44 |
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bcuraboy | how can i set nautilus to load thumbnails?reason: in chrome when i want to upload a photo to a social network,the preview of the file doesn't show up... | 10:11 |
bcuraboy | there's no nautilus elementary for ubuntu 12.04? | 10:24 |
em | what's new in the next ubuntu? | 12:52 |
penguin42 | em: I'm not sure that's decided yet - it looks like UDS for Q is in a couple of days time | 12:59 |
penguin42 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu doesnt't show much assigned to quantal yet | 13:01 |
philinux | penguin42: Regarding bug reporting in QQ. Is it worth reporting bugs before alpha 1 milestone? | 13:41 |
* penguin42 isn't sure | 13:41 | |
penguin42 | philinux: I'd guess only if you can track it down to a particular packag | 13:42 |
philinux | penguin42: The repos for QQ will be in a state of flux just now so I assumed bug reporting would be a drain on resources until alpha1 | 13:43 |
philinux | or at least somewhere between tool chain upload and alpha1 | 13:44 |
penguin42 | philinux: which is why I say if you can actually find there is definitely a bug in a particular package then it's worth reporitng it just to make sure it gets fixed | 13:44 |
philinux | penguin42: ah ok gotcha | 13:45 |
snadge | anyone know what the story for quantal is yet? :P | 13:45 |
snadge | new kernel.. new gcc... profit? | 13:45 |
philinux | snadge: UDS 7th may | 13:46 |
snadge | so nobody is going to screw with anything else until then.. im guessing the new kernel and new compiler is just the base to work from | 13:46 |
snadge | so far so good.. i wouldn't bother reporting bugs with kernel 3.4, they're all pretty much known | 13:46 |
penguin42 | snadge: They're not necessarily that interrelated | 13:46 |
snadge | 3.4 was designed purely to upset people | 13:47 |
snadge | but it runs great in virtualbox.. so whos complaining | 13:47 |
philinux | snadge: QQ is PP at the moment with minor changes so I would expect it to run ok | 13:48 |
snadge | well i wouldn't call the kernel minor personally | 13:48 |
snadge | it probably boots natively on 1 in 2 pcs | 13:48 |
snadge | forget about display drivers etc :p | 13:48 |
snadge | and gcc 4.6 -> 4.7 .. thats bound to break stuff | 13:49 |
snadge | and thats before the devs have even tried to break stuff.. thats just given breakage to existing stuff ;) | 13:49 |
snadge | entirely to be expected though | 13:50 |
philinux | snadge: changelog not very busy https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.4.0-1.3 | 13:51 |
snadge | the ABI has changed.. thats probably the biggest thing | 13:51 |
snadge | im not sure what else has changed between precises 3.2 and 3.4 kernel | 13:51 |
snadge | with any luck fglrx and nvidia drivers will be working by the time the alpha rolls around | 13:53 |
philinux | snadge: Kernel team > http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam/2012/05/02/quantal-linux-kernel-3-4-0-1-3-uploaded/ | 13:53 |
snadge | but that probably depends on whether its decided to update xorg to 1.12 | 13:53 |
philinux | Doesnt say much | 13:53 |
snadge | or not | 13:53 |
snadge | does that basically mean that as it stands now.. theres not much difference between mainline 3.4 and quantal 3.4? | 13:54 |
penguin42 | snadge: fglrx and nvidia almost never work by the time the alpha comes out! | 13:54 |
snadge | well i managed to hack fglrx to work on 3.4 kernel | 13:54 |
snadge | and im not a kernel dev | 13:54 |
snadge | nor do i have the source to fglrx.. i just kludged the headers a bit | 13:55 |
snadge | but it was a tad unstable | 13:55 |
snadge | so i do know from experience there are a few changes there that amd and nvidia will have to deal with.. but they're probably not massive | 13:55 |
snadge | it would be nice to get them onboard as quickly as possible.. because most people either dont have intel graphics.. or are unenthusiastic about using radeon/nouveau | 13:57 |
snadge | thats probably the biggest thing that influences my decision whether to run it natively.. or in a vm.. asides from other general breakage | 13:58 |
philinux | snadge: I always run the dev version on a disk 2 in my desktop | 14:10 |
philinux | disk 1 has stable version on it | 14:10 |
snadge | yeah i wont do that until i can be sure that i can display something in X | 14:16 |
snadge | thats kind of a pre-requisite for me | 14:17 |
philinux | snadge: Thats how i've done it for ages. | 14:17 |
penguin42 | Radeon driver works decently these days - certainly for my HD4350; it's not supposed to be as fast as the fglrx, but certainly it gets to the display and runs KDE OK | 14:19 |
BluesKaj | Hey all | 14:24 |
eagles0513875 | hi guys :) | 14:58 |
KarmaComa | Hi, on Kubuntu 12.04 every time i disable DPMS i find it enabled itself after sometime! | 17:15 |
bazhang | KarmaComa, #ubuntu for that | 17:15 |
bazhang | or #kubuntu | 17:15 |
KarmaComa | they told me to go here for precise | 17:15 |
bazhang | they were wrong | 17:16 |
KarmaComa | ok thanks | 17:16 |
penguin42 | Precise was here until it was released | 17:16 |
KarmaComa | oh ok | 17:17 |
penguin42 | +1 is always 'the next one' | 17:17 |
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BluesKaj | penguin42, any word on when the "next one " is to be released for testing ? | 17:28 |
FernandoMiguel | hey guys | 17:29 |
FernandoMiguel | anyone having trouble booting up quantal? | 17:29 |
FernandoMiguel | seems to be network related | 17:29 |
FernandoMiguel | if I disable network interfaces, it boots ok | 17:29 |
BluesKaj | FernandoMiguel, using NM ? | 17:30 |
FernandoMiguel | ofc | 17:30 |
BluesKaj | wireless laptop I suppose | 17:30 |
FernandoMiguel | I commented eth0 in interfaces and it works | 17:31 |
FernandoMiguel | BluesKaj: I already tried reverting wireless tools to no efect | 17:31 |
FernandoMiguel | but yes, laptop with intel wifi card | 17:31 |
FernandoMiguel | 09:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (rev 34) | 17:32 |
FernandoMiguel | 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) | 17:32 |
BluesKaj | FernandoMiguel, any chance you have an ethernet connection nearby ...upgrading to a new alpha release OS is always tricky with wifi | 17:32 |
FernandoMiguel | BluesKaj: I managed to get it working.... disabling interfaces | 17:33 |
BluesKaj | strange | 17:33 |
FernandoMiguel | BluesKaj: I've upgraded to quantal the day precise was released :) | 17:33 |
BluesKaj | did you do the change the name in the sources.list procedure/trick? | 17:34 |
FernandoMiguel | BluesKaj: ofc | 17:36 |
FernandoMiguel | there is no other way to upgrade, this soon | 17:37 |
BluesKaj | FernandoMiguel, sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/' /etc/apt/sources.list ? ...you realize that there can be some dependency problems if the repos aren't finished upgrading all the packages themselves | 17:40 |
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FernandoMiguel | BluesKaj: after working for a week? | 17:45 |
FernandoMiguel | on two diff laptops, on diff days, diff network and repos? :) | 17:45 |
BluesKaj | really FernandoMiguel , hmm, maybe i should test it then , i have a spare HDD that i'm going to install inside my pc , maybe I'll try it on that | 17:47 |
FernandoMiguel | k | 17:48 |
FernandoMiguel | let me know what you find | 17:48 |
FernandoMiguel | I'll see if I can dig any logs and file a bug | 17:48 |
FernandoMiguel | maybe against NM | 17:48 |
BluesKaj | well, I'm using ethernet , my house is totally wired with cat5 | 17:49 |
FernandoMiguel | me too | 17:50 |
FernandoMiguel | at least on this one | 17:50 |
FernandoMiguel | on my office one it's wifi (broadcom) | 17:50 |
BluesKaj | ..BBL | 18:50 |
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