[04:34] theres no way to install quantal yet without installing precise and updating? [04:34] its times like this.. i wish btrfs was stable ;) [04:35] i know that linux 3.4 breaks radeon graphics from experience.. so im not real keen on that just yet [05:17] snadge: Gotta wait for when the first dailies get spun. [05:18] When do the dailies start I forget? [05:20] dunno.. im not waiting [05:20] im installing precise in a vm and dist upgrading :p [05:20] I have no idea, tbh, but the first alpha is already early June. [05:25] update-manager -d doesnt work for quantal ;) [05:27] sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list [05:27] :1,$ s/precise/quantal/g [05:27] sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:27] :p [05:39] ok.. im running quantal [05:39] exciting ;) [05:44] nooo... wobble windows has been removed :P === ttl_ is now known as ttl- [10:11] how can i set nautilus to load thumbnails?reason: in chrome when i want to upload a photo to a social network,the preview of the file doesn't show up... [10:24] there's no nautilus elementary for ubuntu 12.04? [12:52] what's new in the next ubuntu? [12:59] em: I'm not sure that's decided yet - it looks like UDS for Q is in a couple of days time [13:01] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu doesnt't show much assigned to quantal yet [13:41] penguin42: Regarding bug reporting in QQ. Is it worth reporting bugs before alpha 1 milestone? [13:41] * penguin42 isn't sure [13:42] philinux: I'd guess only if you can track it down to a particular packag [13:43] penguin42: The repos for QQ will be in a state of flux just now so I assumed bug reporting would be a drain on resources until alpha1 [13:44] or at least somewhere between tool chain upload and alpha1 [13:44] philinux: which is why I say if you can actually find there is definitely a bug in a particular package then it's worth reporitng it just to make sure it gets fixed [13:45] penguin42: ah ok gotcha [13:45] anyone know what the story for quantal is yet? :P [13:45] new kernel.. new gcc... profit? [13:46] snadge: UDS 7th may [13:46] so nobody is going to screw with anything else until then.. im guessing the new kernel and new compiler is just the base to work from [13:46] so far so good.. i wouldn't bother reporting bugs with kernel 3.4, they're all pretty much known [13:46] snadge: They're not necessarily that interrelated [13:47] 3.4 was designed purely to upset people [13:47] but it runs great in virtualbox.. so whos complaining [13:48] snadge: QQ is PP at the moment with minor changes so I would expect it to run ok [13:48] well i wouldn't call the kernel minor personally [13:48] it probably boots natively on 1 in 2 pcs [13:48] forget about display drivers etc :p [13:49] and gcc 4.6 -> 4.7 .. thats bound to break stuff [13:49] and thats before the devs have even tried to break stuff.. thats just given breakage to existing stuff ;) [13:50] entirely to be expected though [13:51] snadge: changelog not very busy https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.4.0-1.3 [13:51] the ABI has changed.. thats probably the biggest thing [13:51] im not sure what else has changed between precises 3.2 and 3.4 kernel [13:53] with any luck fglrx and nvidia drivers will be working by the time the alpha rolls around [13:53] snadge: Kernel team > http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam/2012/05/02/quantal-linux-kernel-3-4-0-1-3-uploaded/ [13:53] but that probably depends on whether its decided to update xorg to 1.12 [13:53] Doesnt say much [13:53] or not [13:54] does that basically mean that as it stands now.. theres not much difference between mainline 3.4 and quantal 3.4? [13:54] snadge: fglrx and nvidia almost never work by the time the alpha comes out! [13:54] well i managed to hack fglrx to work on 3.4 kernel [13:54] and im not a kernel dev [13:55] nor do i have the source to fglrx.. i just kludged the headers a bit [13:55] but it was a tad unstable [13:55] so i do know from experience there are a few changes there that amd and nvidia will have to deal with.. but they're probably not massive [13:57] it would be nice to get them onboard as quickly as possible.. because most people either dont have intel graphics.. or are unenthusiastic about using radeon/nouveau [13:58] thats probably the biggest thing that influences my decision whether to run it natively.. or in a vm.. asides from other general breakage [14:10] snadge: I always run the dev version on a disk 2 in my desktop [14:10] disk 1 has stable version on it [14:16] yeah i wont do that until i can be sure that i can display something in X [14:17] thats kind of a pre-requisite for me [14:17] snadge: Thats how i've done it for ages. [14:19] Radeon driver works decently these days - certainly for my HD4350; it's not supposed to be as fast as the fglrx, but certainly it gets to the display and runs KDE OK [14:24] Hey all [14:58] hi guys :) [17:15] Hi, on Kubuntu 12.04 every time i disable DPMS i find it enabled itself after sometime! [17:15] KarmaComa, #ubuntu for that [17:15] or #kubuntu [17:15] they told me to go here for precise [17:16] they were wrong [17:16] ok thanks [17:16] Precise was here until it was released [17:17] oh ok [17:17] +1 is always 'the next one' === wilee-nilee is now known as Fyodorovna [17:28] penguin42, any word on when the "next one " is to be released for testing ? [17:29] hey guys [17:29] anyone having trouble booting up quantal? [17:29] seems to be network related [17:29] if I disable network interfaces, it boots ok [17:30] FernandoMiguel, using NM ? [17:30] ofc [17:30] wireless laptop I suppose [17:31] I commented eth0 in interfaces and it works [17:31] BluesKaj: I already tried reverting wireless tools to no efect [17:31] but yes, laptop with intel wifi card [17:32] 09:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (rev 34) [17:32] 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) [17:32] FernandoMiguel, any chance you have an ethernet connection nearby ...upgrading to a new alpha release OS is always tricky with wifi [17:33] BluesKaj: I managed to get it working.... disabling interfaces [17:33] strange [17:33] BluesKaj: I've upgraded to quantal the day precise was released :) [17:34] did you do the change the name in the sources.list procedure/trick? [17:36] BluesKaj: ofc [17:37] there is no other way to upgrade, this soon [17:40] FernandoMiguel, sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/' /etc/apt/sources.list ? ...you realize that there can be some dependency problems if the repos aren't finished upgrading all the packages themselves === tohuw is now known as Guest23165 [17:45] BluesKaj: after working for a week? [17:45] on two diff laptops, on diff days, diff network and repos? :) [17:47] really FernandoMiguel , hmm, maybe i should test it then , i have a spare HDD that i'm going to install inside my pc , maybe I'll try it on that [17:48] k [17:48] let me know what you find [17:48] I'll see if I can dig any logs and file a bug [17:48] maybe against NM [17:49] well, I'm using ethernet , my house is totally wired with cat5 [17:50] me too [17:50] at least on this one [17:50] on my office one it's wifi (broadcom) [18:50] ..BBL === Tasmania is now known as John__K === John__K is now known as Tasmania === Tasmania is now known as John__K