| spiritech | hi | 01:33 |
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| spiritech | if i am running compiz, metacity and cairo-dock is there any need for me to have gnome or unity desktop installed? | 01:34 |
| spiritech | ?? | 01:40 |
| spiritech | do i even need metacity and compiz installed together? | 01:42 |
| spiritech | or can i just have compiz installed? | 01:43 |
| spiritech | well i am removing metacity and rebooting to find out. so fingers crossed. | 01:46 |
| spiritech | i have removed metacity and rebooted, all is still well. :) | 01:54 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: ping | 04:46 |
| mattt | morning | 05:40 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: hi | 05:49 |
| popey | morning | 06:35 |
| AlanBell | morning | 06:43 |
| AlanBell | see you shortly popey | 06:43 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: you at the aiprort? | 06:43 |
| * czajkowski is sitting in the ounge having a bacon roll | 06:43 | |
| AlanBell | 7czheading out now | 06:43 |
| AlanBell | nom | 06:43 |
| czajkowski | coolio | 06:44 |
| czajkowski | I start bording at 9:30 | 06:45 |
| czajkowski | am on the upper deck on the virgin flight :D | 06:45 |
| popey | someone else went on the top deck and got seasick | 06:52 |
| czajkowski | really? | 06:53 |
| czajkowski | hmm fingers crossed so | 06:53 |
| dogmatic69 | why does updates no longer require pw? | 06:56 |
| dogmatic69 | second time now that I have not had to enter a pw to update | 06:57 |
| sagaci | it's likely that you recently entered your password | 06:57 |
| sagaci | thus it's not nagging you again | 06:57 |
| dogmatic69 | no, just started up | 06:59 |
| dogmatic69 | besides say a month back, even if I just entered it updates always required a pw | 06:59 |
| head_victim | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Update_Manager_doesn.27t_prompt_for_security_updates | 07:00 |
| dogmatic69 | just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973069 | 07:01 |
| dogmatic69 | its only for installing now | 07:01 |
| popey | and so to bed | 07:15 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone used gimp 2.8 on 12.04? | 07:16 |
| gord | oh oh, i have | 07:19 |
| dogmatic69 | I just installed it | 07:24 |
| dogmatic69 | the splash screen is nice. no single window :/ | 07:24 |
| dogmatic69 | I am dissapoint | 07:24 |
| dogmatic69 | found the option \o/ | 07:38 |
| gord | single window should be default really | 07:39 |
| dogmatic69 | ye, I think they dont do that as people are used to the old way | 07:40 |
| * AlanBell is in the airport | 07:46 | |
| AlanBell | playing where's wally looking for czajkowski | 07:46 |
| SuperEngineer | dogmatic69: [from the release notes] GIMP 2.8 introduces an optional single-window mode. You can toggle between the default multi-window mode and the new single-window mode through the Single-window mode checkbox in the Windows menu. | 07:47 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: boo | 07:49 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: where are you now? | 07:49 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: am gonna head to boots in 5 mins as need to get some stuff | 07:49 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski I was in dixons not buying stuff, I will try to find boots | 07:53 |
| czajkowski | ok | 07:54 |
| gord | AlanBell, czajkowski bring treats for gord! flumps! | 07:56 |
| AlanBell | if you make.hud work with orca :) | 07:57 |
| AlanBell | leverage is hreat | 07:58 |
| AlanBell | can't find boots. you are in T5 czajkowski? | 08:01 |
| tsimpson | an airport without a boots? such a thing can't exist! | 08:06 |
| AlanBell | I found boots, but czajkowski.is in T3! | 08:10 |
| tsimpson | at least you can both smell nice when you finally meet up | 08:11 |
| AlanBell | quit fragrant | 08:25 |
| MartijnVdS | flagrant? | 08:31 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| jacobw | good morning | 10:00 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bigcalm | Good afternoon peeps :) | 12:05 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 12:06 |
| bigcalm | Hi MartijnVdS | 12:07 |
| bigcalm | How does one upgrade a 10.04 server to 12.04? | 12:08 |
| MartijnVdS | do-release-upgrade | 12:08 |
| bigcalm | Ta | 12:08 |
| bigcalm | iain@banana:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade | 12:09 |
| bigcalm | Checking for a new ubuntu release | 12:09 |
| bigcalm | No new release found | 12:09 |
| bigcalm | :S | 12:09 |
| MartijnVdS | which mirror are you using? | 12:10 |
| MartijnVdS | you may need to enable the 'updates' repository first as well | 12:10 |
| MartijnVdS | so you get post-release updates (non-security) | 12:10 |
| MartijnVdS | but I don't know that for sure | 12:10 |
| bigcalm | This is on my Bytemark VM. I thought they used their own mirrors, but sources.list seems to point at us.archive.ubuntu.com | 12:12 |
| brobostigon | i think there are more parameters, like -r | 12:12 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: I have 12.04 on mine :) | 12:12 |
| jacobw | they definately use their own mirrors | 12:21 |
| bigcalm | I can upgrade 10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10->12.04 by setting the Prompt in release-upgrades to normal | 12:26 |
| bigcalm | But leaving it set to lts gives me nothing :( | 12:26 |
| hamitron | is there a rush to upgrade a server? | 12:27 |
| hamitron | 3 years left | 12:27 |
| hamitron | :) | 12:27 |
| bigcalm | That's not helpful | 12:28 |
| hamitron | yeh :/ | 12:28 |
| brobostigon | reckon my eeepc, will be able to boot off a usb dvd drive ? | 12:32 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 12:32 |
| brobostigon | :) yay | 12:32 |
| bigcalm | Ah, it's a known thingy | 12:45 |
| bigcalm | Will be able to do it with 12.04.1 | 12:46 |
| * bigcalm waits until July then | 12:46 | |
| azmodie | clear | 13:05 |
| bigcalm | Maybe it's time to attempt a 12.04 upgrade on my work station | 13:29 |
| bigcalm | It's that or get work done | 13:29 |
| penguin42 | and we can't have that | 13:31 |
| bigcalm | It is Saturday | 13:32 |
| bigcalm | But I have so much to do (always so much to do) | 13:32 |
| bigcalm | Now chatting via my irssi proxy (rather than xchat) and I feel as though I'm back in 1997 | 13:33 |
| * bigcalm notes that there isn't much chatting to be had | 13:36 | |
| jacobw | i like irssi | 13:58 |
| * hamitron hates IRC.... seems to be a too gooda distraction | 13:59 | |
| bigcalm | hamitron: if you don't like IRC, why are you using it? | 14:00 |
| hamitron | because it is good | 14:00 |
| hamitron | ;) | 14:00 |
| * bigcalm tuts at your confusion | 14:01 | |
| hamitron | you've never talked on IRC instead of getting on with work that should be done? | 14:02 |
| hamitron | ;D | 14:02 |
| bigcalm | Everyday :) | 14:03 |
| bigcalm | Which is why some days I don't open xchat | 14:03 |
| hamitron | that is probably a good idea | 14:03 |
| bigcalm | Yay 12.04 | 14:26 |
| popey | morning | 15:41 |
| SuperEngineer | popey: you'll have to talk louder - it appears nobody can hear you from there ;) | 15:44 |
| SuperEngineer | o/ | 15:44 |
| popey | :รพ | 15:47 |
| bigcalm | popey: HELLO! | 16:06 |
| popey | yo | 16:06 |
| bigcalm | What's new? | 16:06 |
| popey | breakfast was new | 16:09 |
| popey | until I ate it | 16:09 |
| bigcalm | Nandos and Avengers Assemble soon :D | 16:10 |
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| === daftykin1 is now known as daftykins | ||
| simon__ | Hi, I really need some help enlarging the pointer size on 12.04, I have followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/126491/how-do-i-change-the-cursor-and-its-size and created a .Xresources but it wont work. It's an upgrade for a partially sighted person and this is a real show stopper... help? | 18:27 |
| MartijnVdS | simon__: did you do the update-alternatives thing/ | 18:29 |
| MartijnVdS | simon__: then log out and back in again? | 18:29 |
| MartijnVdS | also, dconf-editor + logout/back in | 18:30 |
| DJones | simon__: This may well help http://askubuntu.com/questions/126491/how-do-i-change-the-cursor-and-its-size | 18:30 |
| MartijnVdS | DJones: he said he followed it | 18:30 |
| DJones | Ah yes, my eyes scrolled past that :) | 18:30 |
| simon__ | yeah, thanks but it doesn't work | 18:30 |
| simon__ | i have been so full of praise for ubuntu but this is really frustrating, it should be such a simple thing | 18:31 |
| MartijnVdS | can you make sure both settings are done? | 18:32 |
| MartijnVdS | also.. .Xresources? That's _old_ | 18:32 |
| simon__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxfa2fXJ1Wc | 18:32 |
| MartijnVdS | that guy doesn't know what he's talking about | 18:33 |
| simon__ | ^ that vid says you need to use .Xresources too | 18:33 |
| simon__ | oh right | 18:33 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 18:33 |
| MartijnVdS | nvidia? | 18:33 |
| MartijnVdS | can you put the output of the "update-alternatives" command on pastebin? | 18:34 |
| simon__ | sure | 18:34 |
| MartijnVdS | Also, tell us what's in the "cursor-size" and cursor-theme dconf settings? | 18:34 |
| MartijnVdS | (capitalization is important) | 18:34 |
| daftykins | that's pretty shocking that it's not just in GUI settings | 18:36 |
| simon__ | http://pastebin.com/GA1x0bLc | 18:36 |
| simon__ | ^ there's my update-alternatives | 18:36 |
| MartijnVdS | simon__: did the cursor colour change to black? | 18:36 |
| MartijnVdS | simon__: after logging out and back in? | 18:36 |
| simon__ | yes | 18:36 |
| MartijnVdS | OK so that bit works | 18:36 |
| MartijnVdS | and the dconf keys? | 18:37 |
| simon__ | then I loaded dconf Editor and go 'org.gnome.desktop.interface' | 18:37 |
| simon__ | cursor-size 64 | 18:38 |
| simon__ | and cursor-theme DMZ-Black | 18:38 |
| simon__ | one of them is working because when I load firefox the cursor suddenly gets bigger | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | sounds like a bug to me | 18:39 |
| simon__ | I think that's the dconf | 18:39 |
| daftykins | was there a fix for that blue colours in videos online thing? | 18:39 |
| daftykins | or was it just nvidia drivers | 18:39 |
| daftykins | someone asking in #ubuntu | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: that's just nvidia being poo (as always) | 18:40 |
| daftykins | i'll bet it's more OSS changing things and them being expected to catch up ;D | 18:40 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: they don't even do xrandr yet! | 18:40 |
| daftykins | only time i've used that is to rotate a screen :> | 18:41 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: sure the tool.. but the "multiple displays" bit also uses that | 18:41 |
| MartijnVdS | "2 desktop monitors", "laptop at a conference/presentation" | 18:42 |
| daftykins | tool? | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | command-line tool | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | xrandr | 18:42 |
| daftykins | oh as in you're saying what i already knew, that i used it directly rather than that nvidia haven't caught up to make their GUI tools make use of it? | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | but the extension is also used by the graphical "set up monitors/resolution" bit | 18:42 |
| daftykins | yarr | 18:43 |
| simon__ | ok I'm going to try a few changes and reboot etc. see if some combination of cursor will work, thanks for the help | 18:43 |
| daftykins | oh wells | 18:43 |
| MartijnVdS | simon__: if you can't get it to work, please file a bug | 18:44 |
| simon__ | I will, that's 3 serious bugs for accessibility to report, two of which were fine in 11.04! | 18:44 |
| MartijnVdS | :( | 18:44 |
| simon__ | (the menu on the far right with all the shut down options etc. disappears if you use high contrast) | 18:45 |
| spiritech | hi | 18:45 |
| spiritech | can anyone tell me the best options for running compiz and cairo dock? | 18:46 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Oakland Ubuntu Folks: Severed Fifth Playing Tonight - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/05/05/oakland-ubuntu-folks-severed-fifth-playing-tonight/ | 19:03 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 20:04 |
| jacobw | hi | 20:05 |
| martii | :) | 21:05 |
| martii | hi | 21:05 |
| yothsoggoth | hello | 21:12 |
| martii | :) is any of you having amd a4 based laptop? | 21:16 |
| martii | I just installed Precise and my HP 4535s seems to be much too noisy | 21:16 |
| mattt | evening | 21:44 |
| jacobw | evenage | 22:00 |
| czajkowski | gord: I've tea bags and digestives | 22:44 |
| penguin42 | chocolate digestives? | 22:45 |
| czajkowski | no plain of course for dunking | 22:47 |
| penguin42 | czajkowski: I'll admit to being neither a tea drinker or dunker; but wouldn't a thin slightly plasticy layer on your digestive allow you to dunk for longer without the biscuit falling to bits? | 22:52 |
| czajkowski | nope | 22:56 |
| czajkowski | heavier | 22:56 |
| czajkowski | dunks and falls in | 22:56 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 22:58 |
| * penguin42 suspects that depends on the temperature of your tea | 22:58 | |
| * yothsoggoth thinks that it's all about practice; timing is everything with biscuit dunking! | 23:02 | |
| * hamitron likes to dunk chocolate digestives | 23:04 | |
| yothsoggoth | seems pretty quiet on here tonight | 23:07 |
| czajkowski | lots of folks asleep or travellingor in the usa | 23:09 |
| yothsoggoth | good point, I didn't realise the time! | 23:10 |
| AlanBell | hi all | 23:44 |
| AlanBell | gosh is that the time! | 23:44 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-16638217 not this Alan Bell? | 23:51 |
| AlanBell | an imposter! | 23:51 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: Well, you could go and do some timing.... | 23:54 |
| AlanBell | I might end up doing something | 23:56 |
| AlanBell | they have interviewed me but not assigned any task yet | 23:56 |
| AlanBell | I might get a few jobs driving a BMW around London or something | 23:56 |
| penguin42 | we'll know it's you if the 100m is won in 13.37 seconds | 23:56 |
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