[05:54] <bkerensa> pleia2: do you think walking from Jack London Square to City Center would be safe enough?
[05:54] <bkerensa> :)
[06:00] <pleia2> I don't really know a whole lot about Oakland
[06:00] <pleia2> I've only gone there at night once, and it was a little scary :)
[06:00]  * pleia2 usually goes during the day
[06:01] <pleia2> I think daytime is probably fine though
[06:03] <bkerensa> ok
[06:04]  * bkerensa was going to catch AC Transit but I got two suitcases so I dont think that will work well ;p
[06:04] <pleia2> heh, yeah, that would be fun
[06:05] <pleia2> coming in Sunday?
[06:06] <bkerensa> pleia2: Yeah should be in at Amtrak by 8am
[06:06] <pleia2> nice
[06:07] <bkerensa> They said we had to arrive by Sunday afternoon
[06:07] <bkerensa> so yeah thats the best I could do :D
[06:08] <pleia2> I usually wandered in in the evening, generally can't check in until 3PM anyway and there aren't planned events on Sunday for community people (Canonical usually has an event)
[06:09] <pleia2> ideas have been floated for an event that evening for community people since it ends up being a little awkward to show up and have nothing to do, but nothing really stuck
[06:09] <bkerensa> lol
[06:09] <bkerensa> :D
[06:10] <bkerensa> well I have friends in Oakland and SF so I'm sure ill find something to do
[06:10] <pleia2> yeah :)
[06:10] <bkerensa> I just hope I can talk the hotel into storing my luggage until check-in
[06:10] <pleia2> shouldn't be a problem
[06:10] <bkerensa> good stuff :) lugging it around SF wouldnt be so fun
[06:10] <pleia2> haha, yeah
[06:11] <bkerensa> I think ill use the opportunity to go to Chinatown and try to find to Coconut Candy for my grandmother
[06:11] <bkerensa> :)
[06:11] <pleia2> there you go :)
[06:13] <pleia2> I'll be wandering around with some people on Sunday, gonna try to get someone to go on the cable car with me
[06:13] <pleia2> I mean, take some visitors on the cable car
[07:18] <gua> monday monday monday!
[07:35] <philipballew> gua, ITs Saturday!
[07:36] <gua> philipballew: happy cinco de mayo
[07:36] <gua> but the UDS of UDSes starts mondayy wooo WOOO
[07:36] <gua> gonna get some steam, gonna get some juju
[07:50] <gua> hm getting an error message from 4 browsers trying to register for UDS   "OpenID discovery error: Error fetching XRDS document: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt')"
[08:05] <philipballew> gua, have you tried turning it off and on again?
[08:06] <gua> philipballew: i need to break into the canonical.com datacenter to do that
[08:06] <gua> that will take a while
[08:10] <philipballew> good point
[08:10] <philipballew> in the mean time. wanna come to san diego to help me move!
[08:10] <gua> woo!
[08:10] <philipballew> Its happening right now!!!
[08:10] <gua> that is far
[08:11] <gua> ooh real time
[08:11] <philipballew> yet Ill be at uds sunday
[08:11] <gua> aww sunday, that's the end :(
[08:11] <gua> google maps says san diego is 484 mi, 8 hr 3 min away from my current location
[08:12] <gua> a guy in #launchpad forwarded me to #canonical-sysadmin so i think the right people will be made aware of the issue
[08:13] <gua> or it's just me
[08:13] <gua> i gotta print out the sessions and check off what i want to make sure to attende
[08:14] <philipballew> yeah, where you live?
[08:14] <gua> walnut creek area
[08:15] <gua> i don't make it to the LUGs as much as i'd like. the few i tried to go to i couldn't find people meeting there
[08:15] <gua> dangit there are a ton of neat tracks going on at the same time
[08:19] <philipballew> gua, nice. Ive never been there.
[08:20] <gua> it's pretty nice. a really packed downtown with a ton of stores/restaurants.
[08:21] <philipballew> I grew up in auburn. opposite
[08:24] <gua> ah wow yeah. bit north
[08:25] <gua> wait
[08:25] <gua> i don't think there is uds stuff on sunday
[08:26] <philipballew> no, i just check in them
[08:31] <gua> hm http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/ says monday to friday
[08:32] <gua> maybe there's a super secret extra days only for insiders
[08:34] <gua> alright about late enough, gnite
[14:16] <philipballew> whooo!!! two hours of sleep!!!!
[16:07] <bkerensa> hi philipballew
[16:07] <bkerensa> :D
[16:07] <bkerensa> gua: I let Canonical's sysadmins know yesterday
[16:07] <bkerensa> :P
[16:08] <bkerensa> philipballew: on Sunday we have to find informal fun stuff to do
[16:08]  * bkerensa will be heading to Chinatown in SF if you car to attach :D
[16:11] <pleia2> gua: there aren't super secret days, philip is getting there early because he's traveling to attend, so needs somewhere to sleep before monday morning :)
[16:11] <pleia2> well, there are sprints that Canonical employees do before UDS, but that's not for us
[16:13] <DonkeyHotei> are there any uds-related-in-any-way events today or tomorrow?
[16:13] <pleia2> nope
[16:15] <DonkeyHotei> ok
[16:16] <bkerensa> DonkeyHotei: not officially
[16:16] <bkerensa> But if anyone wants to tag along to SF Chinatown or something I am going tomorrow
[16:19] <DonkeyHotei> SF-LUG is tomorrow
[16:20] <DonkeyHotei> if anyone is looking for an unofficial event, idk what would be more fitting
[16:21] <bkerensa> DonkeyHotei: where is it held at?
[16:21] <DonkeyHotei> 26th & geary
[16:21] <bkerensa> Hmm
[16:22] <bkerensa> Maybe I will come
[16:22] <bkerensa> doesnt the 38 Muni go up there?
[16:22] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[16:22] <bkerensa> Mmm and there is Chinese Food and Indian across the street
[16:25] <DonkeyHotei> i don't think they allow outside food
[16:27] <bkerensa> Oh I mean after :D
[16:27] <bkerensa> or Before
[16:29] <DonkeyHotei> ah
[16:59] <DonkeyHotei> bkerensa: just in case you haven't found it, http://www.sf-lug.com/
[17:01] <bkerensa> kk
[17:02] <akk> Is there any way to track changes to the UDS schedule? Like, if I go through the schedule now and figure out what I want to go to, how do I find out if something new gets added or something gets moved?
[17:03] <pleia2> unfortunately not
[17:03] <DonkeyHotei> i hadn't thought of that when i imported the ical file into google calendar
[17:03] <akk> Okay, I won't bother reading beyond Wednesday morning for now.
[17:03] <DonkeyHotei> i marked "attending" sessions only for monday
[17:14]  * bkerensa has checked many attendings but there is the possibility for changes on the fly
[17:14] <bkerensa> :D
[17:15] <akk> I checked some attendings but then I started getting irrelevant email and wondered why I was checking things.
[17:15] <bkerensa> ;0
[17:15] <pleia2> nice day out today :)
[17:25] <bkerensa> Yeah I hear 80's tomorrow and 70's for the rest of the week
[17:26] <akk> Cool and windy here so far this morning.
[17:27] <pleia2> in the mid 60s and sunny here so far
[17:27] <akk> Here too, but for San Jose that's pretty cool ... especially with the chilly wind.
[17:28]  * akk is spoiled after a few really nice spring days
[18:21] <bkerensa> ok everyone see you in Oakland... I am on my way out the door
[18:21] <bkerensa> Bon Voyage
[18:21] <pleia2> have a safe trip :)
[18:22] <DonkeyHotei> what, is he leaving oregon only now?
[18:23] <akk> Sure, sounds about right to me.
[18:24] <akk> A relaxed 2-day trip or a long 1-day trip followed by time to decompress.
[18:24] <DonkeyHotei> i thought he was already here
[19:20] <MarkDude> http://makerfaire.com/bayarea/2012/
[19:21] <MarkDude> 2 weeks, who is going? Maker Faire Bay Area May 19 & 20, 2012
[19:37] <akk> Oh, wow, Maker Faire is during the eclipse? Wonder if they're going to have people hanging around and watching it. (Sunday afternoon, starts at 5:17.)
[19:37] <akk> I may head out of town to get closer to the centerline, not sure yet.
[19:40] <DonkeyHotei> i don't want to spend the money
[19:58] <MarkDude> $15 for one day?
[19:58] <MarkDude> Pack a lunch
[19:58] <DonkeyHotei> not that interesting atm
[19:58] <MarkDude> Ok, well dont go
[19:58] <MarkDude> :P
[19:59] <MarkDude> One of these days Im haiving a Beefy Miracle Geeknic
[19:59] <MarkDude> Maybe that will be interesting
[20:01] <DonkeyHotei> that i'd go to
[20:01] <MarkDude> cool
[20:14] <gua> ty bkerensa and pleia2
[20:24] <gua> "Please specify the group or Company you are representing" hmm
[20:25] <akk> Agreed, DonkeyHotei, it is expensive.
[20:26] <akk> gua: "self" ?
[20:26] <DonkeyHotei> i put Ubuntu
[20:27] <gua> akk: I was thinking that, but "I will be representing myself" sounds kind of big-ego-ish heh. But yeah that sounds good.
[20:29] <akk> I usually put * or . or something on forms that are rude enough to insist.
[20:29] <gua> haha
[20:29] <akk> But self is a pretty standard thing to put.
[20:30] <gua> ah, good to know
[20:30] <akk> I have a couple of fake company names I use if a form absolutely insists on a company name and doesn't accept punctuation.
[20:30] <akk> Or there's always World, or The Universe, or Humanity. :)
[20:30] <akk> or Every Decent-Thinking Person.
[20:33] <gua> Yeah I gotta have some backup custom company names for things like this
[20:34] <gua> Global TechBioCompuQuad
[20:35] <akk> I've seen worse ... on real companies. :)
[20:35] <gua> (definitely not to be confused with Local TechBioCompuQuad)
[20:36] <gua> Yeahh, for kind of smaller companies their names can get so bad
[20:36] <akk> So many startups pick a name that's super general ... people think "I want a company, and I don't really care what it does" and name accordingly.
[20:37] <akk> Global Innovative Solutions, Inc. Things like that.
[20:38] <gua> Hah that's pretty bad. Well whenver I've gotten into the depths of trying to come up with a name I liked for something, I do notice that if I wasn't so used to "Google" or "Amazon" and similar I probably wouldn't think they're very good names.
[20:39] <gua> Woo success "UDS Registration: CONFIRMATION"
[20:39] <akk> Hmm, I don't think I ever got one of those. Should I worry?
[20:39] <akk> Is it email?
[20:40] <akk> Can I check whether I'm registered on launchpad or somewhere?
[21:04] <gua> akk: If you got forwarded to launchpad.net it has it as some kind of a sprint thing
[21:05] <gua> akk: And I don't think you should worry since it just says email if you want to change any part of your registration info
[21:05] <gua> And yeah it was an email
[21:06] <akk> But now you have me wondering -- if I show up and they say I'm not preregistered, is it a problem?
[21:07] <MarkDude> Nope
[21:07] <MarkDude> Just means you may not get a shirt
[21:07] <gua> That I don't know. I'm not even 100% that you have to register but there's lots of language on the UDS site that encourages registering, so I went ahead and di it
[21:07] <akk> Ah, there's an email address to contact if I didn't receive the registration mail.
[21:07]  * akk mails it
[21:07] <gua> Oh nice, I was wondering if the size question meant I'd get a shirt :D
[21:07] <MarkDude> its nice to, but not needed- technically
[21:08] <MarkDude> Especially since you are akk
[21:08] <MarkDude> Your name proceeeds you  ;)
[21:08] <MarkDude> Yours is positive,
[21:08]  * MarkDude 's is more oh, that a**hole
[21:08] <MarkDude> :D
[21:09] <MarkDude> let em in
[21:09] <gua> Better to be known than not known :P
[21:09] <MarkDude> Well that I am, but not maybe what I would like to be for
[21:09] <akk> I doubt the UDS establishment has a clue who I am. :)
[21:10] <DonkeyHotei> does it matter?
[21:10]  * MarkDude is willing to take bet you have a high recogintion akk, at least for your blog
[21:11] <MarkDude> Sn9, no of course it does not, Everyone that helps out is helpful, and part of a team :)
[21:11] <akk> The registration page says you have to register.
[21:11] <akk> There seem to be lots of different registration pages, though ... I probably used the wrong one.
[21:11] <gua> Of course it would
[21:11] <gua> Hm
[21:12] <gua> I used https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/
[21:12] <DonkeyHotei> i used the link from http://uds.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <gua> For me that one forwarded to the canonical.com link
[21:13] <gua> Clicking the button that is
[21:15] <MarkDude> Its more fun to go to an event, and act like Ron Burgundy
[21:15] <akk> I used http://uds.ubuntu.com/register/ but I got different forms the two times I went to it
[21:16] <MarkDude> Do you know who I am , Idont know how to say this, but Im kindof important :D
[21:16] <akk> (the first time I got a form that had mandatory fields like flight arrival times and passport number, second time it didn't have those)
[21:16]  * MarkDude hopes his badge says company:Beefy Miracle
[21:17] <MarkDude> I just said I was already here, and leaving in dec
[21:18] <akk> On pleia2's suggestion I copied the times from https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-q for my arrival/departure times
[21:18] <akk> even though I'm not really sure even what that page is :)
[21:19] <gua> akk: It might be you selected "remote" one time and "in person" in the other
[21:19] <gua> The calendar only shows up if you do the in person one.
[21:19] <akk> I don't think it ever presented me with either of those options.
[21:20] <akk> It may have jumped to conclusions based on somethingorother.
[21:20] <gua> I just said I'd arrive two days before it began and arrive two days after in the afternoon each time
[21:20] <akk> I'm sure I never chose "remote" ... and anyway, if I were remote why would I need a passport number?
[21:20] <gua> Remote is the default one
[21:21] <gua> Not sure about passport, only field like that I saw was a thing asking if you needed a visa or not to attend
[21:21] <akk> Ah, passport expiry date, not number (checking my logs).
[21:22] <akk> Anyway, the registration form pretty clearly doesn't like me at all and doesn't want me to go to UDS.
[21:22] <akk> Hopefully Marianna will feel differently.
[23:00] <bkerensa-droid> :)
[23:01] <DonkeyHotei> bkerensa-droid: where are you now?
[23:01] <bkerensa-droid> Uhh on tracks in fields somewhere
[23:02] <DonkeyHotei> what?
[23:02] <bkerensa-droid> About two hours south of portland but Amtrak is travelling  way offthe beaten path
[23:03] <DonkeyHotei> ah
[23:03] <DonkeyHotei> when is your arrival? i'm assuming you're getting off in either oakland or emeryville
[23:04] <bkerensa-droid> I arrive in Oakland at 8:30 eta
[23:04] <bkerensa-droid> Omg llamas
[23:04] <pleia2> llamas live off the beaten path?
[23:04] <bkerensa-droid> Train just passed a huge llama farm
[23:04] <pleia2> hehe
[23:05]  * pleia2 adds llama item in pluses "reasons to go to portland by train"
[23:05] <pleia2> +column
[23:06] <bkerensa-droid> Im apparently neat a town called Wren
[23:07] <bkerensa-droid> Pleia2: so far this has been a fun trip
[23:09] <bkerensa-droid> Bbl
[23:52] <Darkwing> pleia2: are you commuting back and forth daily for UDS?
[23:55] <DonkeyHotei> why wouldn't she be? it's about five minutes by rail
[23:55] <DonkeyHotei> ok, maybe ten
[23:55] <DonkeyHotei> exactly three stops
[23:56] <DonkeyHotei> she'd get on at montgomery, next stop is embarcadero, next is west oakland, and then she'd get off at 12th street