[00:00] <ulkesh> brodro, roger that, good luck!
[00:00] <Wessley> IntuitiveNipple: its set properly to the hdd
[00:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: Are any USB storage devices connected directly or through a hub?
[00:00] <Wessley> IntuitiveNipple: Nope
[00:01] <Wessley> only things connected keyboard/mouse/network/monitor
[00:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: It *sounds* as if grub failed to install correctly - especially if you can't get the Shift key to give you the grub boot menu. Grub has 3 stages of loading, and it sounds like it might be stuck after the 1st
[00:01] <bjorkintosh> how do i type unicode characters into the terminal?
[00:01] <lj> IntuitiveNipple: I'm following the steps on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile to create linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic_3.0.0-18.31~791833_i386.deb. Are these the correct steps (10.04 instructions)?
[00:01] <Paulo39> hello guys. i have a simple question: i want to install ubuntu. i already have a linux distro installed in the computer (arch) with separated /swap /home / and /boot partitions. when installing ubuntu, may i point /swap and /boot to the same partitions? (i know i can do it with /home and i will do it)
[00:02] <bjorkintosh> Paulo39, you can do so with swap.
[00:02] <clirc> my disk got too full, now X won't start, help ?
[00:02] <bjorkintosh> though, boot might get over written.
[00:02] <Paulo39> bjorkintosh: what about /boot?
[00:02] <clirc> using irssi (bless it) for now till i can get a normal boot happening
[00:02] <bjorkintosh> it will get overwritten. you certainly don't want to mess with that unless you intend to wipe it.
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> gMan: If you can get in via the recovery console shell, you should be able to examine the log files from the unsucessful boot in /var/log/ by looking at the timestamps of the files (ls -lstra) - don't get confused by the messages for the current boot!
[00:02] <bjorkintosh> clirc, how much space do you have?
[00:03] <clirc> bjorkintosh: how can I tell?
[00:03] <Paulo39> bjorkintosh: ok, so i will create a /boot only for ubuntu. thanks for the answer
[00:03] <bjorkintosh> clirc, df -h
[00:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Paulo39: Last time I did that /boot was NOT reformatted, the new installation used an existing /boot/ partition
[00:03] <sacarlson> Wessley: oh I wonder if it's grafics if you could try after boot (some time like 3 minits of black) try <ctrl><alt>f2  to get into console
[00:04] <Wessley> sacarlson I will try that
[00:04] <Paulo39> another question guys: i want to install ubuntu. i already have a linux distro installed in the computer (arch) and i have grub working fine. can i install ubuntu without change the MBR and dont mess with that grub which is fine?
[00:04] <gMan> IntuitiveNipple: geez man! there are a lot-o-logs in there. where is a good place to start?
[00:04] <clirc> 0 space left
[00:04] <tnk1> hi all... how does one extract a .xdi file??
[00:05] <Paulo39> IntuitiveNipple: and did it work with the other /boot not formatted??
[00:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: Do you see the hard disk activity light flashing away madly just after BIOS ? That would indicate Ubuntu is starting
[00:05] <Wessley> yes
[00:05] <IntuitiveNipple> gMan: If you use "ls -lstra" the files are ordered by most recent last, so I'd work backwards
[00:05] <clirc> bjorkintosh: 0 space
[00:05] <Wessley> no luck sacarlson
[00:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: That sounds hopeful!
[00:06] <bjorkintosh> clirc, how did it get filled up? pr0n?
[00:06] <Wessley> and when I hit the power button once it flashs away the hdd light and then turns off
[00:06] <sacarlson> Wessley: well back to live boot and modify grub for nomodeset,  I'll look for details
[00:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: I'd try messing with getting into the grub menu with that Shift key.... if grub is booting that has got to respond
[00:06] <clirc> bjorkintosh: not sure, I am wondering if a process has written a huge file or soemthing
[00:06] <bjorkintosh> well, look for it then.
[00:07] <clirc> bjorkintosh: I cleaned apt-get and apparently free'd up 400mb but on reboot it was full again??
[00:07] <Wessley> sacarlson it just finished downloading the full thing will check that out now
[00:07] <wylde> clirc: have you cleaned out your apt package cache to make some room?
[00:07] <gMan> IntuitiveNipple: your a saint. I have to run. Will try and figure this out. THANKS!
[00:07] <wylde> clirc: sudo apt-get clean , will remove the packages from the cache and make some room.
[00:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Paulo39: I've never had the Ubuntu installer insist on formatting /boot/ - I always have multiple OSes installed in parallel using LVM LVs too
[00:07] <clirc> wylde: yeah i ran sudo apt-get clean
[00:08] <wylde> clirc: alrighty.
[00:08] <bjorkintosh> clirc, also sudo apt-get remove?
[00:08] <clirc> will do one sc
[00:08] <sacarlson> Wessley: this has the details you need but you might need to mount the file system from minimal boot to modify the file needed http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/01/ubuntumaverick-blank-screen-problem.html
[00:10] <sacarlson> Wessley: also I would take out quiet splash so you can see where it might crash at some point
[00:11] <mongo> Hi: with app armor, if you give rw access to a block device does it give access to the parent in /devices and other links scattered around /dev too?
[00:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: if you remove "quiet splash" add in "debug" also!
[00:12] <clirc> still has 0% free, wtf
[00:13] <sacarlson> clirc: empty trash?
[00:13] <clirc> sacarlson: how do?
[00:14] <sacarlson> clirc: nautilus (file manager) bottom right corner click trash can and select empty
[00:15] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, how do i write a cd image to a usb and make it bootable......the cd itself is bootable
[00:15] <Wessley> sacarlson / IntuitiveNipple extracting to usb now...
[00:15] <clirc> sacarlson: on cl, can't get gui to boot
[00:15] <gaelfx> !liveusb | paranoidphreak
[00:16] <paranoidphreak> gaelfx: it's not ubuntu OS.....it's a windows xp
[00:16] <gaelfx> paranoidphreak: then try dd
[00:16] <clirc> can anyone tell me some folders I could delete for an easy win freeing up space?
[00:16] <paranoidphreak> gaelfx: ok.......thanks
[00:16] <IntuitiveNipple> clirc: find out where all the space is in use! du -x --max-depth=3 / | sort -n
[00:16] <smw> clirc, /var/cache/apt/debs or something like that
[00:17] <MirkoKa> clirc: which partition excatly has 0% free? if you cleard the package cache it's very unlikey that it's still 0%
[00:17] <gaelfx> paranoidphreak: you probably will need to 'man' that command before you use it though
[00:17] <lj> IntuitiveNipple: I'm following the steps on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile to create a patched kernel from linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic_3.0.0-18.31~791833_i386.deb. Are these the correct steps (10.04 instructions)?
[00:18] <gaelfx> 'man cat' is probably the weirdest thing I've ever typed into terminal
[00:18] <IntuitiveNipple> lj: That kernel file I pointed you to *IS* a patched kernel - you can download it and its associated headers package and install them using "sudo dpkg =i <package-name>"
[00:19] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: you mean -i right?
[00:19] <IntuitiveNipple> lj: Correction: "sudo dpkg -i <package-name>"
[00:19] <sacarlson> clirc: I guess you could run a live cd boot and run Disk Usage Analizer to determine what is using all the space and remove or move what isn't needed
[00:19] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: :p
[00:19] <OerHeks> gaelfx man free
[00:19] <Fyodorovna> paranoidphreak, if you have access to a windows machine and a legit XP disc you would use this, loading a XP to a usb in linux is possible but I havew never been able to do it. http://wintoflash.com/home/en/
[00:19] <gaelfx> OerHeks: ah, nice
[00:20] <Fyodorovna> s/havew/have
[00:21] <paranoidphreak> Fyodorovna: unforturanatly i don't have access to windows but thanks anyways
[00:21] <gaelfx> paranoidphreak: I forgot, if you use dd, I think you still need to use something like gparted to make the drive bootable
[00:22] <gaelfx> paranoidphreak: but it's pretty easy to do
[00:22] <paranoidphreak> gaelfx: thanks for the heads up
[00:22] <Fyodorovna> paranoidphreak, I suspect you may be out of luck, I hope not, but this is a tough one.
[00:22] <gaelfx> Fyodorovna: nah, it's not too bad, I used dd to make a Win7 USB to reinstall on my wife's computer.
[00:22] <dashavoo> I've had this problem for a while, but it is still there after an upgrade so I'll ask... is there any reason why flash videos seem to remain "on top" even when firefox isn't the on top window?
[00:23] <Fyodorovna> gaelfx, W7 is easy Xp is a whole other beast.
[00:23] <taxman> i get impressed by win8-ready-to-go
[00:24] <taxman> maybe we can run win8 on a pendrive in the future
[00:24] <Fyodorovna> gaelfx, since you had to comment to me  will say I doubt a dd and a grub loader will do it either I have gone that route and never had it work.
[00:24] <OerHeks> microsoft provides a tool for usb
[00:25] <gaelfx> Fyodorovna: not a grub loader, you use gparted simply to set the boot flag on the USB
[00:26] <Gracenotes> is there a way to set swap priority (of the different swap spaces) on a per-process basis?
[00:26] <gaelfx> paranoidphreak: and I assume you know you ought to freshly format the drive before you dd it, right?
[00:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Gracenotes: Yes, using cgroups
[00:27] <Gracenotes> IntuitiveNipple: ah... interesting. So I can say, "start this process with instructions to use mostly swap space A"?
[00:27] <paranoidphreak> gaelfx: yup.....
[00:27]  * Gracenotes reads
[00:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Gracenotes: I believe so, yes
[00:28] <gaelfx> dashavoo: pretty sure that's related to the flash player, Firefox can't control that
[00:28] <Fyodorovna> gaelfx, For XP I doubt it but honestly I gave a method that does work every time so if it works your way I will be glad to see it, bu I wont hold my breath.
[00:28] <gaelfx> paranoidphreak: just checking
[00:28] <Gracenotes> IntuitiveNipple: okay. will see where I get with that, thanks
[00:28] <paranoidphreak> gaelfx: thanks
[00:29] <dashavoo> gaelfx: I realise that, I just wondered if anyone knew why it happens, and if so how it can be remedied
[00:30] <Fyodorovna> gaelfx, XP was not designed to run a a usb, W7 is a extract to a usb with W7 and a bootflag works, I doubt a dd to a usb of a OS not designed to run in a usb is going to.
[00:31] <gaelfx> dashavoo: petition Adobe to make flash more open?
[00:31] <Fyodorovna> paranoidphreak, let us know if this works, it is nice to know so it can be passed on if you get it running.
[00:31] <Dawn262> i forget how to kill a dead app...
[00:31] <Dawn262> help
[00:31]  * Dawn262 is blonder than usual
[00:31] <dashavoo> gaelfx: thanks, you've been a great help :)
[00:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Gracenotes: There's some helpful detail in http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
[00:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Gracenotes: grep 'Enable CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_SWAP'
[00:32] <paranoidphreak> Fyodorovna: i will
[00:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Dawn262: kill -TERM `pidof <appname>` or kill -KILL ...`
[00:33] <gaelfx> dashavoo: haha, sorry I couldn't tell you more, but you might want to try one of the free versions of flash plugin, those are usually easier to control (I'm assuming you're using Adobe's plugin)
[00:33]  * Dawn262 huggles IntuitiveNipple 
[00:33] <gaelfx> whoa...that was weird
[00:33] <violinappren> Dawn262: IntuitiveNipple: pkill -9 processname
[00:34] <IntuitiveNipple> violinappren: good point!
[00:34]  * Dawn262 higgles the pee out of the both of you!
[00:34] <xangua> violinappren: what the '-9' stands for?
[00:35] <violinappren> xangua: SIGKILL
[00:35] <Gracenotes> IntuitiveNipple: ahh. hm.
[00:35] <MirkoKa> violinappren: please refrain from suggestion -9 that is *ONLY* the last emergency situation, SIGTERM, SIGHUP or SIGINT shoudl be tried first
[00:35] <Wessley> sacarlson / IntuitiveNipple with the usb install I get a grub window not the one shown in the picture and there are 3 options on Try Ubuntu without installing, Install Ubuntu, Check disc for defects
[00:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: Yes, that is the grub boot menu for the USB device ...
[00:35] <zykotic10> MirkoKa: +1
[00:36] <violinappren> MirkoKa: for a process responding normally yes, but not for a "stuck" app
[00:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: Do the Try Ubuntu... option then when that has started you can use its programs to check on the bad installation
[00:36] <Dawn262> MirkoKa, : It is actually an emergency.  VLC is locked and won't go away after the upgrade
[00:36] <aaas> so comparing samba and nfs I'm getting samba ~30% faster, is this the experience of others?  (win7<->ubuntu, gigabit, ssd->hdd)
[00:37] <MirkoKa> xangua: -9 mean to send the KILL signal wich uncinditionaly forces the process the exit, without any chance to clean up. it't like shooting a bullet through your head without giving you the change to write a inheritance letter, don't use it unless there's no other way
[00:37] <Paulo39> in your opinion, which is the best file system type for save data and backups that is compatible with both linux and windows? is there anything better than NTFS? (FAT is not good because of the file size limits and ext3/4 isn't compatible with windows)
[00:37] <gaelfx> aaas: totally the opposite for me, I've had way better experience with NFS
[00:37] <IntuitiveNipple> MirkoKa: I make sure all my processes write a will as soon as they start :p
[00:38] <aaas> gaelfx what speeds where you getting with each?
[00:38] <Wessley> IntuitiveNipple: How would I use the try to fix the current install
[00:38] <gaelfx> aaas: ah, but I see now that the other machine is Win7, which would explain the difference
[00:38] <violinappren> aaas: sshfs
[00:38] <wcchandler> Unknown encoder 'libx264'
[00:38] <aaas> there are more sites online which claim nfs fastest of all, so I was wondering why my results are different
[00:39] <gaelfx> aaas: I haven't objectively measured speeds, all I can say is when I access a 720p video on NFS I can actually watch it, whereas Samba gets some mad stuttering going on, but both of my boxes are Ubuntu so the NFS support is good on both ends. Win7 has _some_ NFS support, but not full support
[00:39] <violinappren> !restricted | wcchandler
[00:39] <wcchandler> violinappren: when I run avconv -formats it lists it as available to decode and encode
[00:39] <Dawn262> that did it!  thousands of thanks to IntuitiveNipple  and violinappren
[00:40] <aaas> what network copy speeds do people get?  im getting 32-45 mb/sec
[00:40] <Dawn262> the -9 is the only way it killed vlc
[00:40] <OerHeks> !mediainfo
[00:41] <Wessley> IntuitiveNipple: try ubuntu boots to a black screen
[00:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: oh good! :D that means you've got a common problem with that PCs video system, not an installation problem!
[00:42] <Gracenotes> IntuitiveNipple: hm. I see that it's useful for per-process management of limits. Not so much for selecting preferred swap partitions
[00:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Wessley: That is good since it hints that simply adding "nomodeset" to the grub boot line ought to get you a text display at least
[00:42] <wcchandler> violinappren: nevermind, i both love and hate you
[00:43] <MirkoKa> Dawn262: yes, -9 can be the correct way, it just should be noted that this is really the last thing to try (many webpages suggest -9 as if it's a totally normal thing to do). try -HUP instead of -9 first next time
[00:43] <grafton> Okay, now that I'm finished chasing the chickens away from the basil... Dude running Arch, are you still having install issues with Ubuntu?
[00:43] <wcchandler> -5 is "nicer"
[00:44] <violinappren> wcchandler: what was the issue?  and you wouldn't be the first :)
[00:45] <wcchandler> violinappren: trying to convert a video to h264 format for the raspberry pi... going to see how it handles it.  But I "thought" I already installed that package.  And it was even listing those codecs as available...  but I hadn't installed the restricted extras and that fixed it
[00:45] <violinappren> MirkoKa: most desktop applications don't know how to respond to HUP , this is meaningful in the context of managing a unix demon
[00:46] <IntuitiveNipple> Gracenotes: Can you use devices_allow to control access to a swap device per cgroup?
[00:46] <playx> damn why are all preset files for x264 empty? no wonder that encoding not works
[00:47] <violinappren> wcchandler: the pi cant handle it on its own?
[00:47] <Wessley> linux /casper/vmlinuz  file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper nomodeset --
[00:47] <Wessley> not sure if this is correct formating for nomodeset
[00:48] <Gracenotes> IntuitiveNipple: devices.txt? let me try that, actually.
[00:48] <wcchandler> violinappren: no.  source was mpeg4 684x276 resolution video and was choppy
[00:48] <Gracenotes> okay, I should just read all the docs for cgroups.
[00:48] <wcchandler> h264 has hardware acceleration (supposedly)
[00:48] <MirkoKa> violinappren: nope, HUP works very well even for GUI apps as well (if TERM/INT don't), actually really needing -KILL is a sign for a heavily misbehaving process -> bug report
[00:49] <wcchandler> it plays the bick bunny clip without an issue at 1080i
[00:50] <gaelfx> wcchandler: what player are you trying to use?
[00:50] <violinappren> MirkoKa: GUI apps  write buffers to disk upon receiving a HUP?
[00:50] <wcchandler> gaelfx: i tried mplayer and vlc
[00:50] <wcchandler> for the mp4 file
[00:50] <wcchandler> gaelfx: but they have their own command line video player that works with x264
[00:51] <gaelfx> wcchandler: who is "they"?
[00:52] <audr> Hello, does anyone know how to use a different java version other than the one default on oneiric? I have 0_32 in /usr/lib/jvm, but java -version still brings up 0_23
[00:52] <MirkoKa> violinappren: irrelevant :-) some do some do not, but *NO* app/program/tool/process/whatever writes internal data to disk when reciving a KILL
[00:52] <wcchandler> gaelfx: the raspberry pi foundation
[00:52] <wcchandler> gaelfx: or more specifically, broadcom
[00:52] <gaelfx> aaaah, gotcha
[00:53] <gaelfx> wcchandler: what's it called?
[00:53] <ulkesh> audr, you probably just need to alter your JAVA_HOME, JRE_HOME, and PATH environment variables to point to the proper java install
[00:53] <wcchandler> ilclient (i think)
[00:53] <audr> ulkesh, right, but I can't remember the correct --set command to do that
[00:54] <wcchandler> gaelfx: i'm looking for it now...  it comes ala source you have to compile from the image, which matches the intentions of the pi -- to teach programming
[00:54] <ulkesh> i *think* you can edit /etc/environment to do just that...and i suppose you have to reboot (I don't know how to just have it take effect)
[00:54] <gaelfx> wcchandler: yeah, it would probably help a heap if we knew the right name
[00:54] <audr> no, i did it three days ago with a --set command
[00:54] <violinappren> audr: pastebin the output of: dpkg -l openjdk
[00:54] <audr> it was something like update-alternatives --set java <path>
[00:54] <violinappren> !pastebin > audr
[00:55] <audr> ah, sorry
[00:55] <ulkesh> audr, i've always just manually altered my environment...sorry :(
[00:55] <gaelfx> audr: if you did it before, then you should be able to find the command again by opening terminal and pushing the UP key a whole lot
[00:56] <audr> gaelfx, sadly, I just went through a reinstall so I can't :(
[00:56] <gaelfx> audr: ouch, that bites. Sorry
[00:56] <ulkesh> gaelfx, audr, or you can do a bash search using !? (but you may want to research how before running any command automatically :) )
[00:56] <nwillems> Hello there - I'm trying to run a dry run of a system upgrade, but it keeps failing when sanboxed. Can I "safely" use the server mode, and then expect it to not depend on user input?
[00:56] <audr> violinappren, nada
[00:56] <ulkesh> lol, nvm
[00:56] <bandit5432> audr, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:56] <nwillems> I'm running ubuntu server
[00:56] <gaelfx> audr: you don't keep a separate /home partition?
[00:56] <violinappren> audr: how did you install java?
[00:57] <elisha_> hey, would anyone happen to know why my external harddrive won't mount? (toshiba 500gb)
[00:57] <audr> violinappren, via website. Went on their website, dl'd java version 32, moved it to /usr/lib/jvm, chmod +x, install
[00:57] <audr> gaelfx, no.
[00:57] <mufi> hy all
[00:57] <audr> violinappren, I can see the jre1.6.0_32 in /usr/lib/jvm though
[00:58] <violinappren> audr: a .bin file or a directory ?
[00:58] <manitou> morning
[00:58] <manitou> how to fix "Unable to build kernel module." vmware workstation 8
[00:58] <analyser> hey guys, does anybody uses gnu scientific library?
[00:58] <MirkoKa> elisha_: any error message or other symtom?
[00:58] <gaelfx> which reminds me, if I'm installing to a system with SSD and an HDD, is it a good idea to make a separate partition for /tmp on the HDD? so as to avoid wear and tear on the SSD?
[00:58] <bandit5432> audr, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:58] <violinappren> manitou: try: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:59] <elisha_> MirkoKa: no, the light on the external is flashing like normal when its working but no errors or notice its mounted
[00:59] <audr> bandit5432, nothing to configure
[00:59] <gaelfx> and if so, what's a good size for /tmp?
[00:59] <violinappren> audr: is jre1.6.0_32 a directory/folder?
[00:59] <audr> no, I can not cd into it
[00:59] <audr> thus a file
[01:00] <violinappren> audr: what's the output of this command: file /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_32
[01:00] <gaelfx> goodbye #ubuntu
[01:00] <audr> violinappren, wait, i mistyped my cd
[01:00] <audr> it is a folder
[01:01] <violinappren> audr: cd into the 'bin' folder inside of it
[01:01] <violinappren> audr: and do: ./java -version
[01:01] <audr> violinappren, ok i just did
[01:01] <violinappren> audr: is that the one you wish to use as default java?
[01:01] <audr> It outputted correctly in which it told me it was 0_32
[01:02] <audr> eys
[01:02] <audr> yes*
[01:03] <manitou> violinappren: i get same :( log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/968131/
[01:04] <audr> manitou, what problem
[01:04] <audr> violinappren, eh?
[01:04] <violinappren> audr: ok, there are two solutions, you can add this to the alternatives system but you will have to set a lot of things (not only the 'java' one) .. or you can add this folder to your PATH in ~/.bashrc before everything else, like:   PATH="/usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_32/bin:$PATH"
[01:04] <Paulo39> hi guys, i have arch installed and i've installed ubuntu rigth now. I used the same /swap, /home and /boot partition for both arch and ubuntu. now i'm editing grub to get access to ubuntu and i was folllowing this tip: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub#Dual_booting_with_GNU.2FLinux but i don't know what is the initrd /path/to/initrd and kernel /path/to/kernel  either
[01:04] <violinappren> audr: i use the second one
[01:05] <manitou> audr: "Unable to build kernel module." vmware workstation 8
[01:05] <audr> violinappren, will doing the Path thing also update the javaws as well?
[01:05] <audr> manitou, ah, sorry buddy. Can't help you
[01:06] <violinappren> audr: it will use ALL the java binaries include with that JRE before anything else installed on the system.. all commands
[01:06] <audr> violinappren, I think I did the set paths last time with --set. It wasn't too bad, but i had someone holding my hand while doing it lol
[01:06] <audr> violinappren, so... yes?
[01:07] <violinappren> audr: --set doesnt set PATH, it configures the alternatives system to use a specific binary to provide a generic command
[01:07] <violinappren> audr: yes
[01:07] <audr> k ^_^
[01:08] <taxman> there is no java in 12.04, i found
[01:08] <violinappren> taxman: yes there is, openjdk
[01:08] <taxman> i mean, built-in java
[01:08] <elisha_> hey, my external harddrive isn't mounting, would anyone have any idea whats going on or how to fix it?
[01:08] <OerHeks> !java
[01:08] <audr> violinappren, and it is /.bashrc??
[01:09] <justin_> has anyone else noticed the compiz shift switcher behaves differently in 12.04?
[01:09] <violinappren> audr: ~/.bashrc     ... in your home folder
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[01:10] <taxman> what difference?
[01:10] <justin_> taxman, it used to be that you could hold down ALT while tabbing through different windows
[01:11] <justin_> then when you released ALT, it would shift focus to that window
[01:11] <justin_> now, I have to press ENTER to shift the focus to that window
[01:11] <taxman> i don't know that, ha
[01:11] <violinappren> audr: in a terminal as a normal user, type: nano ~/.bashrc
[01:11] <audr> doesn't exist
[01:11] <taxman> it sound not too bad
[01:12] <audr> aha
[01:12] <taxman> s/sound/sounds
[01:12] <justin_> yeah, just kind of annoying.  i don't understand why the change from 11.10 to 12.04
[01:12] <magicJ> justin_:  still works that way for me
[01:12] <Paulo39> hi guys, i have arch installed and i've installed ubuntu rigth now. I used the same /swap, /home and /boot partition for both arch and ubuntu. now i'm editing grub to get access to ubuntu and i was folllowing this tip: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub#Dual_booting_with_GNU.2FLinux but i don't know what is the initrd /path/to/initrd and kernel /path/to/kernel  either
[01:13] <justin_> magicJ: good to know, guess i should reinstall compiz ccsm and/or unity?
[01:13] <audr> got it violin
[01:13] <violinappren> Paulo39: ls /
[01:13] <nagarjuna> hi guys
[01:14] <tbrown> Does anyone know the best unix opeating system there is
[01:14] <pibarnas> Paulo39: /usr/src/kernel?
[01:14] <Paulo39> violinappren: which one is 7??
[01:14] <Jordan_U> !best | tbrown
[01:14] <wylde> !ot | tbrown
[01:15] <Draton> random question: is there a way to remove the 'workspace switcher' from the unity launcher?
[01:15] <violinappren> Paulo39:  huh? there are links to initrd and the kernel (vmlinuz) in the root directory /
[01:15] <elisha_> hi guys, Does anyone know why my external 500g toshiba harddrive won't mount, no error message or anything, but the light on the harddrive lights up like it does when its working.
[01:15] <audr> violinappren, what did you say to add in?
[01:15] <Draton> elisha_, how is it connected?
[01:16] <spaceneedle> My intel laptop--which has intel 965gm graphics--seems very responsive lately, Whatever the folks at Ubuntu are doing keep it up. Gnome Shell is slightly faster than unity.
[01:16] <violinappren> audr: at the end of the file: PATH="/usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_32/bin:$PATH"
[01:16] <elisha_> Draton, USB 3 cable into the USB slot
[01:16] <audr> violinappren, k, just did
[01:16] <Jordan_U> Paulo39: You should *not* share a /boot/ between two distributions.
[01:16] <nagarjuna> hi guys , i am getting the following error when i was booting my ubuntu
[01:17] <nagarjuna> [   93.259374]          res 41/40:00:02:0b:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>
[01:17] <nagarjuna> [   93.259378] ata1.00: error: { UNC }
[01:17] <nagarjuna> [   95.692776]          res 41/40:00:02:0b:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>
[01:17] <nagarjuna> [   95.692784] ata1.00: error: { UNC }
[01:17] <nagarjuna> [   98.137295]          res 41/40:00:02:0b:00/00:00:00:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>
[01:17] <FloodBot1> nagarjuna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <Draton> elisha_, have you tried a USB 2 port? Is the USB 3 port native to the chipset?
[01:17] <violinappren> audr: then ctrl + x and ctrl + y
[01:17] <wylde> !pastebin | nagarjuna
[01:17] <violinappren> audr: second is just y, without ctrl
[01:17] <audr> what's y for
[01:18] <Paulo39> Jordan_U: ok. do you know why?
[01:18] <violinappren> audr: ctrl + x will ask you if you want to save the file, press y meaning yes
[01:18] <audr> o, well duh lol. I thought you wanted me to press 'y' after all that
[01:18] <spaceneedle> exit
[01:18] <elisha_> Draton, yes, only 1 of my 3 ports allows it to work properly (according to the external's light)
[01:19] <audr> I was thinking "..what..entering y...what.."
[01:19] <audr> hah
[01:19] <audr> anyway, now waht
[01:19] <Draton> elisha_, what type of computer (and/or motherboard) do you have if you know?  I'm guessing your USB 3 isn't native
[01:19] <violinappren> audr:  open a new terminal emulator and type: java -version
[01:20] <audr> violinappren, kewl
[01:20] <Jordan_U> Paulo39: Because it will appear that Ubuntu's kernel images are for Arch and visa-versa.
[01:20] <audr> violinappren, not bad violin not bad.
[01:20] <Paulo39> ok, thanks
[01:20] <justin_> anyone else find that they need to press enter after using alt+tab to switch windows using the shift switcher or ring switcher in 12.04?
[01:21] <taxman> viola, violin and cello
[01:21] <elisha_> Draton, http://pastebin.com/FGbctwUN
[01:23] <nagarjuna> hi i am getting the following error. Can someone tell me the solution for this.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/968158/
[01:23] <Draton> elisha_, one sec, checking it out now
[01:23] <elisha_> Draton, i also have an output of lsusb http://pastebin.com/xBhqHjE3 (if you need it)
[01:24] <Pici> nagarjuna: FloodBot1 is a bot, it won't answer your messages.
[01:24] <violinappren> nagarjuna: your IDE/SATA cable or the drive itself is defective
[01:24] <DarthMaul> im looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure .... what sorts if things can i do with it
[01:25] <DarthMaul> of*
[01:25] <DarthMaul> and how many boxes do i need o_O
[01:27] <nagarjuna> violinappren: So i need to replace my hard disk
[01:27] <DarthMaul> can someone explain to me what ubuntu cloud is in simple terms...
[01:28] <violinappren> DarthMaul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
[01:28] <violinappren> nagarjuna: or just the cable...
[01:28] <DORKYnoob> Hello gang.... i need to ask a newbie noob question
[01:28] <pwasek> On ubuntu 12.04 did the change anything with the smbldap-tools i cannot find certains in the folder after i install the package
[01:28] <violinappren> nagarjuna: take it to a hardware store if you don't know how to test it
[01:29] <DarthMaul> do i need more than one box for ubuntu cloud
[01:29] <DORKYnoob> please explain "sudo into a shell"  -- i gather it means i have to go into termail ?
[01:29] <DarthMaul> sudo -i
[01:29] <DarthMaul> its your friend
[01:29] <DarthMaul> :P
[01:29] <Wessley> How do I edit my grub menu on a local mounted sda1 with the live boot cd
[01:29] <DarthMaul> chroot
[01:29] <DarthMaul> then edit
[01:30] <DarthMaul> :P
[01:30] <Wessley> where is it located
[01:30] <DarthMaul> type man chroot in terminal
[01:30] <Wessley> i found some files but it says not to edit them
[01:30] <audr> Does anyone know why javaws -version says I have version 0_32, but the java test site says I ahve version 0_23?
[01:30] <scar3crow> lol
[01:30] <DarthMaul> u will need to reload grub
[01:30] <DarthMaul> after u have chrooted into the enviroment
[01:31] <DarthMaul> otehrwise it wont find your changes
[01:32] <violinappren> Wessley: how do you need to change it?
[01:32] <Wessley> so when I use chroot /mnt I am now basically using commands for the local drive
[01:32] <DORKYnoob> THANKS DarthMaul ! how to y make sudo spit out its help info... in windows it might be sudo /?
[01:32] <DarthMaul> man sudo
[01:32] <nagarjuna> violinappren:  i hav 1 doubt. Earlier i am using win 7 & ubuntu ( Dual boot) after that i was upgraded to win 8. For win8 its good i dont c any error msgs, but for ubuntu i am cing this error msg at booting
[01:32] <Wessley> violinappren: I want to add nomodeset as I get a black screen on boot but i cant use the shift key
[01:33] <Wessley> to get into grub at the start
[01:33] <violinappren> audr: sudo apt-get autoremove icedtea-6-plugin
[01:33] <DORKYnoob> THANKS DarthMaul !
[01:33] <nagarjuna> violinappren: is this due to win8 OS
[01:33] <DarthMaul> has anyone tried setting up ubuntu cloud over openvpn + quagga + tor ... or know if its possible
[01:33] <violinappren> nagarjuna: probably not
[01:34] <nagarjuna> violinappren: thanq
[01:34] <violinappren> nagarjuna: get the disk check tool appropriate for hard disk and run a disk check
[01:35] <nagarjuna> ok
[01:35] <audr> does anyone know the Cmd to see your current java browser plugin?
[01:36] <nagarjuna> violinappren: i got ur advice ,  i will try disk check, if its not working then i will  go to the store
[01:36] <led-bandit> audr, open ff addons plugins and should list it
[01:37] <audr> led-bandit, i said command.
[01:37] <led-bandit> audr, or about:plugins
[01:37] <violinappren> audr: whats the output of : dpkg -l "*icedtea*"
[01:37] <nownot> anyone here familiar  with avidemux? I'm trying to create a batch script similar to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1839503 but not understanding the project file part. i'm wanting to go from wmv to mp4
[01:38] <audr> violinappren, http://codepad.org/WTvs5hc9
[01:38] <dniMretsaM> trying to get LightDM set up. I get stuck at the splash screen. Using Ubuntu 12.04, installed from mini.ise
[01:38] <DORKYnoob> is xfs file system native with Ubuntu 12 OR do i have to "get" summin ?
[01:38] <violinappren> audr: sudo apt-get autoremove icedtea*
[01:39] <audr> violinappren, that worked. Why didn't your previous removal cmd worked? It looked like it should have.
[01:39] <violinappren> audr: i was being specific about the version
[01:39] <audr> ah
[01:40] <qymd> I was wonderign if I'm doing something wrong if unity can't run on my netbook.  I thought unity was designed for netbooks or is that a joke
[01:40] <Wessley> after i boot the live cd and mount local sda1 drive and sudo chroot /mnt and then type grub I get grub is currently not installed
[01:40] <mangdood> Hi, I'm having trouble installing 12.04; the error message goes something like ubi-usersetup failed
[01:40] <SovietAdmin> why is it that all the how-to's mention just apt-get install nginx and stuff, when it's not in the default repo's....
[01:40] <audr> So now I need a browser plugin that is version 0_32
[01:41] <Draton> Wessley, did you do a grub-install?
[01:41] <wylde> !info nginx
[01:42] <Wessley> Draton: should it not already be installed from the installer to begin with I am trying to fix its entries with nomodeset option
[01:42] <violinappren> audr: did you install the 64 bit version or the 32?
[01:42] <taxman> i have installed the 64-bit version
[01:43] <taxman> no issues, so far
[01:43] <taxman> wait... 12.04 = 32 + 64 bit
[01:43] <DarthMaul> install grub then
[01:43] <Canadian1296> I'm setting up a VPN server (L2TP authenticating with IPSec) for my iPod Touch, and I have it basically set up, but it fails. auth.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/968185/
[01:44] <Draton> Wessley, what DarthMaul said :) but yes it should be there
[01:44] <violinappren> audr: you only need to make a link to the plugin, it's included with the JRE,  something like:  mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins;  ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_32/lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_jni.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[01:44] <DORKYnoob> anyone in here know about xfs file system with U 12.04 ?
[01:44] <DarthMaul> apt-get install grub
[01:44] <DarthMaul> make sure u have cd mounted
[01:44] <DarthMaul> and souces are uncommented in the proper file... in /etc
[01:45] <Wessley> Draton I only have one network connection I dont see why it would need to be installed when im just trying to update an entry in grub menu on the local drive from the live boot cd
[01:45] <SovietAdmin> wylde: so add universe to the end of the default sources, or is there a specific one i need to add to get "universe" repos?
[01:46] <DarthMaul> grub needs to find itself after u edit menu
[01:46] <violinappren> SovietAdmin: should be there by default, may be commented?
[01:47] <Wessley> I have yet to edit the menu as I dont know where the file to edit it is
[01:47] <DarthMaul> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[01:47] <DarthMaul> read that wes
[01:47] <DarthMaul> it will tell u how to edit
[01:47] <DarthMaul> and when to reload grub
[01:49] <SovietAdmin> violinappren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/968198/
[01:49] <SovietAdmin> violinappren: that is all that is there by default
[01:49] <wylde> SovietAdmin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu <-- info should be there, only semi paying attention in here, on the phone and flipping papers heh
[01:49] <Nicolas_Leonida2> can you open a new shell with a low priority (nice value?) so that every new command you type has a low priority?
[01:50] <violinappren> SovietAdmin: add universe at end of all lines then do: sudo apt-get update
[01:51] <Wessley> DarthMaul: /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst doesnt seem to exsist
[01:52] <DarthMaul> then grub isnt installed or your not chrooted properl
[01:52] <DarthMaul> y
[01:52] <DarthMaul> are u using usb distro? or is it installed to harddrive
[01:53] <violinappren> DarthMaul: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[01:53] <violinappren> DarthMaul: look for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and append whatever you want
[01:53] <DarthMaul> im not the one needing help violinappren
[01:53]  * DarthMaul points to wessley
[01:53] <Wessley> DarthMaul: I installed from the netboot installer with the ubuntu desktop option
[01:54] <Wessley> os wont boot with out the nomodeset option
[01:54] <Optichip> is there a way to rebuild the apt-get database or remove it since it's seeing packages that have been removed and no longer there?
[01:54] <violinappren> DarthMaul: Wessley: menu.lst was the older grub, no longer used
[01:54] <DarthMaul> k, and when you chrooted where did u chroot
[01:54] <Wessley> ok DarthMaul pointed me at that menu.lst
[01:54] <DarthMaul> ooo... my bad
[01:54] <wylde> Optichip: sudo apt-get clean
[01:54] <DarthMaul> i guess i havent updated in a while :P
[01:54] <SovietAdmin> violinappren: odd, php5-fpm doesn't seem to be in universe....
[01:55] <DarthMaul> i guess it could have been worse... i could have pointed u to lilo rofl
[01:55] <Garr255> can someone tell me why the second if statement never goes through? thanks. http://pastebin.com/4B85aC6u
[01:55] <Garr255> wrong box :3
[01:55] <SovietAdmin> violinappren: on the plus side, nginx is now there :P
[01:55] <Optichip> wylde :> doesn't work, says all packages are there when I know there are some that aren't
[01:55] <violinappren> SovietAdmin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/php5-fpm
[01:55] <Wessley> violinappren: how do I edit the menu on the local sda through the live cd with the sda mounted in it while I am chroot'd
[01:55] <Garr255> does anybody know of an awesomesause tablet that runs a usable variation of linux?
[01:55] <Paulo39> hi guys
[01:56] <Draton> Wessley, if the sda part is mounted you should have access to it in /mnt/ no?
[01:56] <Paulo39> i've installed ubuntu 12.04. how can i edit grub?
[01:56] <Wessley> Draton yes
[01:56] <DORKYnoob> DarthMaul:  how do i get Ubuntu 12 to see a XFS hard drive ?
[01:56] <violinappren> Wessley: sudo nano  /yourmountdir/etc/default/grub
[01:56] <xangua> !ot | Garr255 let's go there ;) was just tweeting about it
[01:56] <SovietAdmin> violinappren: so... hope that doesn't have dep problems?
[01:57] <Garr255> cool
[01:57] <tucemiux> how many themes you guys have? I only have 2 and my rig looks ugly, I can't red the letters on the menu
[01:57] <tucemiux> i cant **read* the letters on the menu panel
[01:57] <SovietAdmin> violinappren: it does :(
[01:58] <violinappren> SovietAdmin: hmm?
[01:58] <wylde> Optichip: I suppose you could try sudo apt-get autoclean if you haven't already
[01:58] <SovietAdmin> violinappren: doesn't work on lucid it seems
[01:58] <rjr162> DORKYnoob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XFS
[01:58] <rjr162> hope that helps
[01:58] <violinappren> SovietAdmin: aaah, php5-fpm is not available on lucid
[01:58] <violinappren> SovietAdmin: only from natty onward
[01:59] <Wessley> violinappren I edited that file already: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset" and when I reboot still no go
[01:59] <DORKYnoob> THANKS rjr162 !   more reading....
[01:59] <wylde> tucemiux: ubuntu-tweak will allow you to use other themes. http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[01:59] <DarthMaul> u need to reload grub prob
[01:59] <tucemiux> wylde, zankz! Ill look through it
[01:59] <rjr162> DORKYnoob: one more (more on how to mount: http://superuser.com/questions/316993/how-to-mount-xfs-filesystem-in-ubuntu )
[02:00] <DORKYnoob> rjr162: THANKS  - there i am learning
[02:00] <wylde> tucemiux: it has lots other good features too :)
[02:00] <DORKYnoob> q
[02:00] <tucemiux> wylde, i have that doesnt include back doors o.O
[02:00] <DORKYnoob> exit
[02:00] <wylde> SovietAdmin: now that I think about it, ubuntu-tweak has a system cleanup utility that works quite well too.
[02:01] <DORKYnoob> ex-chat
[02:01] <Wessley> violinappren: it says you have to run update-grub after you edit that file to regenerate your grub.cfg
[02:01] <wylde> tucemiux: huh?
[02:01] <johnzorn> So my upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 went horribly wrong... Is there any kind of guide to help fix things? I can't even boot up...
[02:01] <tucemiux> ubuntu-tweak hasnt been reviewed yet o.O
[02:01] <Wessley> when I run that it says /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[02:02] <tucemiux> wylde, you think ubuntu tweak will slow down my gaming? is it like compiz?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> Wessley: You need to chroot into your Ubuntu installation before running update-grub from a LiveCD.
[02:03] <wylde> tucemiux: no, it doesn't run in the background
[02:03] <Wessley> Jordan_U I am
[02:03] <DarthMaul> whats the command u used to chroot
[02:03] <wylde> tucemiux: it simply gives you easy access to certain features that are readily available in the default configuration tools.
[02:03] <tucemiux> wylde, thanks, thats the only reason i didnt go to compiz, because it worked a little flaky when i gamed
[02:03] <Wessley> sudo chroot /mnt
[02:03] <Jordan_U> Wessley: Did you bind mount /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/ within the chroot?
[02:03] <DarthMaul> u did it wrong...
[02:04] <DarthMaul> lol
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Wessley: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[02:04] <Wessley> Jordan_U didnt know I was supposed to
[02:04] <tucemiux> ubuntu tweak is going to clean -2342398 bytes from the apt cache o.O
[02:04] <tbrown> Does anyone know Red hat linux Channel is
[02:04] <tucemiux> tbrown, ask in ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <violinappren> Jordan_U: Wessley: I was looking for that link!
[02:05] <DarthMaul> redhat is dead
[02:05] <DarthMaul> try fedora
[02:05] <Wessley> Jordan_U: I will have a look people keep linking me to outdated documentation so hopefully this will work
[02:05] <tucemiux> DarthMaul, what type of mac youre using?
[02:05] <DarthMaul> redhat = paid support
[02:05] <DarthMaul> fedora = free
[02:05] <tbrown> DarthMaul: why is Redhat Dead?
[02:05] <xangua> DarthMaul: please stick to the topic
[02:05] <DarthMaul> :P
[02:05] <violinappren> tbrown: /join #fedora
[02:06] <rootnoobtux> is there an clock application that shows time around the globe?
[02:06] <DarthMaul> fedora &rh is bloated crap though ubuntu is faster
[02:07] <wylde> !find gworldclock
[02:07] <wylde> !info gworldclock
[02:07] <tbrown> DarthMaul: I dont know about that I kind of dont like the new ubuntu 12.04
[02:08] <wylde> rootnoobtux: ^^
[02:08] <rootnoobtux> thanx wylde
[02:08] <wylde> rootnoobtux: or you can apt-cache search world clock and check out others.
[02:08] <Wessley> Jordan_U: This document looks much better I will have to unplug and use the network connection for that box thank you brb hopefully with success.
[02:09] <xangua> rootnoobtux: the clock in the panel does
[02:09] <Jordan_U> Wessley: You're welcome.
[02:09] <wylde> rootnoobtux: or use the software centre *shudder* to search I suppose
[02:10] <rootnoobtux> shudder no match :(
[02:10] <violinappren> wylde: if you ever done an installfest for newbies, you will find out that it's a great piece of software
[02:11] <wylde> violinappren: probably, just my own personal dislike :)
[02:11] <Mahjongg> hello, trouble setting up wacom cth470 tablet in 12.04, any suggestions?
[02:11] <taxman> the tablet can run ubuntu?
[02:11] <Draton> violinappren, didn't know 'installfest' existed, that's awesome
[02:12] <violinappren> Draton: that's how ubuntu will fix bug #1 and  dominate the world! muhaha!
[02:12] <wylde> lol
[02:13] <Draton> haha
[02:13] <taxman> which part is wrong?
[02:13] <grafton> +1 ubottu
[02:14] <wylde> violinappren: I actually added myself as affected a while ago hehe
[02:14] <violinappren> aren't we all!
[02:14] <DarthMaul> anyone here setup their own ubuntu cloud?
[02:14] <taxman> iirc, there is one new project to port ubuntu onto smartphones and tablets
[02:14] <DarthMaul> using the infrastructure stuff
[02:14] <en1gma> i have a machine that has an amd 1.6ghz with 512memory and a slow azz hdd...anyhow ubuntu 12.04 is basically unusable...any other suggestion?
[02:14] <taxman> and it's open source
[02:15] <aknewhope_> en1gma: get an ssde
[02:15] <aknewhope_> ssd*
[02:15] <aknewhope_> more memory
[02:15] <Draton> I'll stick to my rooted Android :)
[02:15] <Fyodorovna> en1gma, LUBUNTU
[02:15] <DarthMaul> install ubuntu server... and install alighter desktop
[02:15] <taxman> pendrive+1
[02:15] <violinappren> taxman: it's dead, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Mobile
[02:15] <wylde> !lubuntu | en1gma
[02:15] <en1gma> i have 3 in my 1090t 6 core.....but for this old machine its not gonna get an ssd
[02:15] <reason> anyone know how to turn off the checksum in ubuntu 12 cd/dvd creator?
[02:15] <taxman> not that
[02:15] <grafton> en1gma: Pekwm, Openbox... CLI...
[02:15] <Fyodorovna> opps sorry for the caps, en1gma
[02:15] <DarthMaul> just install ubuntu server and then apt-get install xorg lxde
[02:16] <en1gma> you dont think i should go back to a 2.4 kernel with no udev?
[02:16] <taxman> that project builds its own android too. and it's faster than google's
[02:16] <Mahjongg> !wacom
[02:16] <DarthMaul> naw why risk security
[02:16] <taxman> i just can't recall the name...
[02:16] <en1gma> i thought ubuntu still gets all critical security updated
[02:16] <wylde> !synaptics | Mahjongg
[02:16] <led-bandit> reason, open brasero and choose edit plugins and you can turn it off
[02:16] <DarthMaul> it does, but id still use a current kernel
[02:17] <wylde> ahhh nvm, that's not what I thought it was >.<
[02:17] <DarthMaul> u can install minimal + xorg + lxde
[02:17] <en1gma> yea but on a machine that is like 7years old
[02:17] <en1gma> that like running vista on 512memory
[02:17] <DarthMaul> should be able to..
[02:17] <DarthMaul> ya
[02:17] <DarthMaul> lxde worked fine on my asus netbook
[02:17] <DarthMaul> and i had current kernel
[02:17] <en1gma> ok maybe ill give that a look up
[02:17] <DarthMaul> i was using an asus 4g surf
[02:17] <reason> i did that still comes up it's creating checksum when i start burning an image. would i have to restart my gui maybe?
[02:18] <en1gma> lxde gonna google it now
[02:18] <violinappren> en1gma: the kernel is the least of your concerns
[02:18] <DarthMaul> not really kill x
[02:18] <DarthMaul> and then just use chroot and bootstrap
[02:18] <en1gma> udev and something else in kernel 2.6 is what slows down the systems
[02:18] <DarthMaul> if yer wanting it on the same machine...
[02:18] <led-bandit> reason not sure about that
[02:18] <led-bandit> reason, let me look at some docs
[02:19] <DarthMaul> i highly doubt its the kernel
[02:19] <en1gma> yea your right its more then the kernel
[02:19] <en1gma> chrome is like 75MB alone
[02:19] <en1gma> lol
[02:19] <DarthMaul> im running 3.x kernel with 512 mb ram 900mhz processor on my netbook
[02:19] <DarthMaul> its fine :)
[02:19] <taxman> unity only takes about 500mb of ram on 12.04
[02:19] <DarthMaul> and 4g memory
[02:20] <en1gma> make a youtube video of it booting up and then open up firefox
[02:20] <DarthMaul> with lxdx?
[02:20] <DarthMaul> im sure there are videos of it out there already
[02:20] <en1gma> nm i thought you was talking ubuntu
[02:20] <DarthMaul> ever think it might be firefox that is fucked?
[02:20] <en1gma> lxde sounds like the next step
[02:20] <DarthMaul> its become bloated as shit
[02:20] <grafton> DarthMaul: Something about having to manually control window drawing just doesn't sound too user-friendly, no matter how much low your system overhead is. ;)
[02:20] <en1gma> yea i installed chromium too
[02:20] <wylde> !language | DarthMaul
[02:21] <en1gma> whats the deal with flash and youtube and 12.04? just dont work anymore?
[02:21] <DarthMaul> html5 is here
[02:21] <en1gma> yea to bad all youtube isnt html5
[02:21] <DarthMaul> actually it supports html5 now
[02:21] <whytw0sean> Flash works fine with me in 12.04
[02:21] <led-bandit> en1gma, i know really i had to install flash-aid to fix mine
[02:21] <DarthMaul> flash works too
[02:21] <DarthMaul> but its picky
[02:21] <bazhang> !enter | DarthMaul
[02:21] <violinappren> en1gma: i dont use flash and all of youtube works for me
[02:22] <en1gma> ahh i was wondering....i tried and tried and couldnt get it to work and on that crappy lappy when it glitches it takes forever
[02:22] <en1gma> violinappren whats your secret? windows?
[02:22] <led-bandit> en1gma, mine crashed over and over and i had the blue skin problem
[02:22] <violinappren> en1gma: absolutely nothing, just ubuntu 12.04 with google chrome
[02:22] <led-bandit> en1gma, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[02:22] <en1gma> i installed google chrome. actually i have 12.04 on that laptop right now and chrome dont like flash
[02:23] <en1gma> oh i dont get any video..just black
[02:23] <violinappren> en1gma: open new tab, type about:plugins
[02:23] <grafton> I don't always surf the Internet, but when I do, I choose Iceweasel.
[02:23] <led-bandit> en1gma, mine is working again after installing flash-aid from mozilla addons
[02:23] <en1gma> violinappren i have the lan cord in this machine...the lappy dont have wifi :(
[02:24] <Hulk> I m using firefox 12 and its screwed, i bookmark any page, I had d same problem with 11.0. I have the distro from 11.10 to 12.04. Now i am stuck with chrome
[02:24] <Hulk> wat shuld i do?
[02:24] <en1gma> actually i have a wusb600n v2 usb wifi adapter in the laptop and that dont work either
[02:24] <enav> i need a lil of help can some one tell me why this is not working ?   http://dpaste.com/743068/
[02:25] <en1gma> what happen with 12.04 did it break everything?
[02:25] <Sna4x8> /usr/sbin/aptd crashes every time I reboot.  Is that a known bug in 12.04?  Any fix?
[02:25] <whytw0sean> I dont know why you guys are having such a hard time, with flash and firefox... i use youtube everyday and it works find for me
[02:25] <whytw0sean> fine*
[02:25] <DoctorPepper>   i need some help ,  since upgrading to 12.04 booting  take 300s from grub to working desktop (note i am using kde).  my configuration  is  250go hdd   under btrfs over lvm( /home and / partition).
[02:26] <violinappren> enav: echo "something" | sudo tee yourfilehere
[02:26] <enav> thanks
[02:26] <Sna4x8> 12.04 for me, flash, everything is blue.  I read online, disable hardware acceleration.... only I can't click the checkbox in settings.
[02:26] <violinappren> enav: add -a to tee if you want to append
[02:27] <whytw0sean> I dont know maybe its the Vid card?.. i mean this laptop is built for gaming.. so i have 500 Gb hd, Nvidia 285m Vid Card, 6 gb ram
[02:28] <Hulk> I m using firefox 12 and its screwed, i bookmark any page, I had d same problem with 11.0. I have the distro from 11.10 to 12.04. Now i am stuck with chrome. I need Help, i miss firefox!
[02:28] <Jordan_U> enav: The reason that it doesn't work is that it's the shell, which is running as your user, which handles the '>>' redirection to a file. So you're running echo as root (pointless) and the output of that is being sent to the shell (running as your user) which then tries (and fails) to write it to /var/www/test.php
[02:28] <DarthMaul> are u using the right vid driver?
[02:28] <enav> thanks guys it worked nice
[02:28] <enav> bye
[02:29] <xangua> Hulk: well you say nothing about your problem, but have you tried with a fresh firefox profile¿
[02:29] <Calif> I am trying to serial console into a cisco router using minicom on ubuntu-server
[02:30] <Calif> I keep getting ttys0 is locked errors when trying to start minicom
[02:30] <Calif> I suspect it has something to do with another open session from earlier, but I rebooted since then and can't reconnect
[02:30] <Sna4x8> Is there a way to figure out which window has mouse focus?  Maybe with xwinfo or xprops or a similar tool?
[02:31] <violinappren> Calif: ls /tmp/LCK*
[02:32] <violinappren> Calif: or /var/tmp
[02:33] <Calif> nothing in there
[02:33] <violinappren> Calif: both
[02:33] <violinappren> ?
[02:33] <crf> Hi. How is a cups command file sent to a printer.
[02:33] <yuri__> How do I access the card in my cell phone? My computer isn't even recognizing the modem on the phone.
[02:33] <Calif> one didnt exxt
[02:33] <Calif> exist
[02:33] <Hulk> xangua: I have reinstalled, I had several problems earlier, i have found d solution. i am not able to find 1 for this
[02:33] <Calif> oh
[02:33] <Calif> wait i forgot a charadcter
[02:33] <Calif> same
[02:33] <crf> cups command file described here: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/spec-command.html#ReportLevels
[02:33] <Test> hello
[02:35] <whytw0sean> Anyone know why, when i was on Windows 7 my laptop was cool... and now i installed Ubuntu and its like running hot... like when i feel the charger to it.. its kinda Hot...
[02:35] <whytw0sean> Like its using up 10x more energy
[02:35] <Calif> i found it
[02:35] <violinappren> Calif: ls /var/lock/LCK*
[02:35] <Calif> ok
[02:36] <Calif> I see the file
[02:36] <violinappren> Calif: remove it
[02:36] <Calif> k
[02:36] <xangua> Hulk: have you already tried a fresh profile¿
[02:36] <Calif> k
[02:36] <Calif> thanks
[02:36] <violinappren> Calif: you're welcome
[02:36] <Jordan_U> whytw0sean: Try running powertop to see what might be wasting energy.
[02:37] <whytw0sean> Well when i go to term and i do 'top' the Load is like
[02:37] <whytw0sean> 1.50 for all 3
[02:37] <violinappren> yuri__: whats your phone model?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> whytw0sean: powertop is specifically for finding things which waste energy, top is just about CPU/memory usage.
[02:38] <whytw0sean> But i dont get it Because i have  Intelcore I7 proc, 500 gb hd, 6 gb ram etc should beable to run
[02:38] <whytw0sean> Yeh but what ive heard is that its not good to have ur load ave above 1
[02:38] <nownot> when running avidemux2 from terminal I get question "Width is not a multiple of 8 continue anyway ?", is there a way to ignore this error when using the terminal, some flag I can set or something?
[02:39] <violinappren> whytw0sean: divided by the number of cores, on muti-core systems
[02:39] <whytw0sean> I have 4 Cores
[02:39] <violinappren> whytw0sean: lscpu
[02:39] <J2> Is there someone who could help me get my second monitor recognized by 12.04 please?
[02:40] <whytw0sean> says
[02:40] <whytw0sean> 8 cpus
[02:40] <whytw0sean> 4 cores
[02:40] <whytw0sean> Vio may i PM u my Info ? to see what u think
[02:41] <grafton> J2: Doesn't automatically detect a separate monitor?
[02:41] <violinappren> !pastebin | whytw0sean:
[02:41] <J2> Not this time. IT sees my first monitor as a laptop
[02:41] <J2> and gives no option to turn on my other
[02:41] <violinappren> whytw0sean: it looks alright to me, but use powertop to tune it out
[02:41] <J2> But it worked in previous versions
[02:41] <J2> Proprietary drivers are installed and everything
[02:42] <bazhang> !xrandr | J2
[02:43] <yuri__> violinappren Sorry for delay. RL. Anywa, it's a Cricket txtm8.
[02:43] <yuri__> The chipset is a qualcomm.
[02:44] <yuri__> dmesg says that it finds usb on sdc: sdc1, then it gives a bunch of errors and I can't even mount manually.
[02:44] <yuri__> Had trouble with this stupid phone under windows vista+ as well.
[02:44] <Sna4x8> http://askubuntu.com/questions/131487/mouse-focus-and-keyboard-error/131824 Anyone know the answer to that?  I have the same problem as those folks.
[02:45] <_RegEx_> Hi all. I just upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10. I had 11.10 on a hard drive partition, but 12.04 was placed on my SSD which has now run out of space. Any remedies and ways to prevent this from happening next time?
[02:45] <J2> bazhang, i don't see how to install xrandr?
[02:45] <bazhang> J2, you wish to have a gui for it? arandr then
[02:46] <tucemiux> wylde, not bad, ubuntu tweak did the trick but i'm almost there, ubuntu now is in a usable state but I want how do I download more themes? o.O
[02:46] <violinappren> whytw0sean: sudo apt-get install powertop
[02:46] <J2> can i get it from apt-get bazhang ? I just don't see where/how to install
[02:46] <Zxenz> if i do apt-get remove openssh-server while i am logged in will my connection die? i need to reinstall it
[02:46] <violinappren> whytw0sean: sudo powertop
[02:46] <bazhang> !info arandr | J2
[02:47] <violinappren> Zxenz: sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[02:47] <bazhang> J2, install it from the package manager
[02:47] <wylde> tucemiux: either from the software manager, apt-get or aptitude, synaptic. Whatever package manager you prefer. Search for themes.
[02:47] <taxman> tucemiux, and you just get stuck in each mouse click
[02:47] <whytw0sean> violin now what am i looking for?
[02:47] <Zxenz> thanks violinappren
[02:47] <J2> bazhang, yeah i found it right after i asked...thanks!
[02:47] <whytw0sean> Wakeups / sec?
[02:47] <ztag100> _RegEx_: clear your apt-get cache, and keep your HOME partition in a drive with more space
[02:47] <Zxenz> Reinstallation of openssh-server is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[02:47] <violinappren> whytw0sean: press tab until you get to turnables
[02:48] <yuri__> I wonder if there is any way to get ubuntu on my phone without losing my service. ;) Proprietary OS is demonic. ;)
[02:48] <whytw0sean> Violinappren, when i press tab nothing happens
[02:48] <violinappren> Zxenz: check if your mirror is ok, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:48] <whytw0sean> Nvm i used the arrow keys
[02:48] <violinappren> whytw0sean: sorry, press right arrow
[02:49] <whytw0sean> Now what am i looking for here?
[02:49] <lucas1985ariel> hola
[02:49] <violinappren> whytw0sean: things marked as "bad"
[02:49] <whytw0sean> Thats like
[02:49] <whytw0sean> all of them?
[02:49]  * taxman zzzZ
[02:49] <bazhang> taxman, stop that
[02:50] <violinappren> whytw0sean: are you running on battery ?
[02:50] <Andrew54thousand> does anyone know if there have been changes in support of ATSC tuner cards from 10.10 to 12.04...having some issues with a KWorld ATSC 115 and I am trying to pinpoint where the issue is...not sure if its an ubuntu issue, kernel issue or what
[02:50] <whytw0sean> Well my charger is kinda broke.. Like it will wont charge my laptop.. but when i plug it in it makes it have power
[02:50] <J2> bazhang, yeah arandR doesn't see my other monitor either
[02:51] <whytw0sean> It says pretty much of the stuff is bad
[02:51] <yuri__> Well, I've continued to google for my phone and linux and there is still nothing. *cries* I need into my memory card.
[02:51] <violinappren> whytw0sean: for each one, press enter to fix and see if improves things
[02:52] <javierf_> Hi. I just logged session, opened terminal and tried to install a packet. I got a message saying /var/lib/dpkg/lock couldn't be blocked, cause maybe there is another process using it. How's that possible? How can I fix this? Thanks!
[02:52] <whytw0sean> K all of them are marked good
[02:52] <J2> javierf_, is something updating?
[02:52] <bazhang> javierf_, close the other instances of apt/package manager/ software center
[02:53] <javierf_> J2, bazhang no, only chromium is running
[02:53] <bazhang> javierf_, use sudo?
[02:53] <J2> sudo?
[02:53] <javierf_> bazhang, yes, I used sudo
[02:53] <J2> odd
[02:53] <bazhang> javierf_, pastebin the exact commands used and the exact error messages
[02:54] <Andrew54thousand> javier, check your processes running
[02:54] <bazhang> !paste | javierf_
[02:54] <javierf_> bazhang, a, that's strange. I went to system monitor and there was an update process. But I couldn't see it before in unity or elsewhere
[02:54] <javierf_> bazhang, after closing it, I get to work normally in terminal
[02:54] <bazhang> javierf_, let it finish then and try again
[02:54] <Trel> I'm having a problem with samba. I've set up a share, that requires a specific user. When I try to login to the share, widows tells me I don't have permission. On the server, the log shows this
[02:54] <Trel> [2012/05/04 22:53:47.138058, 1] smbd/service.c:678(make_connection_snum)
[02:54] <Trel> create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[02:55] <Trel> I've created the user on the server, I've done smbpasswd -a username (though I don't get a smbpasswd file generated anywhere), but nothing works.
[02:55] <whytw0sean> Ty Vio it feels alot cooler now
[02:56] <Zxenz> violinappren apt-get update works, does this look ok http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/968271/
[02:57] <violinappren> Zxenz: what's the exact error you get when trying to install?
[02:57] <AHB> hello
[02:57] <Zxenz> Reinstallation of openssh-server is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[02:57] <mangdood> Can you relabel a partition while you are using it
[02:58] <rjr162> yuri__: depending on the phone... i tried the (IIRC) ubuntu version someone did "for android" on my Samsung Galaxy S gt-i9000.. it's one of the setups that uses chroot. It ran okay but sure took up a ton of space so I removed it
[02:58] <violinappren> whytw0sean: you're welcome, but there will be reset on next reboot, i use laptop-mode-tools and it takes care of things when im running on battery
[02:58] <violinappren> Zxenz: sudo apt-get install openssh-server    , says what?
[02:59] <yuri__> rjr162, what's the name of the program? aptitude have a package for it?
[02:59] <whytw0sean> Well thats the thing my charger is messed up.. it wont charge.. i think it maybe might be the AC It's Self.. the last one melted because it got to hot.
[02:59] <rjr162> no, you have to do it all via the phone
[02:59] <Zxenz> violinappren openssh-server is already the newest version.
[03:00] <Zxenz> violinappren but it's not, i did the hpn patch
[03:00] <rjr162> yuri__: well it looks like it's even easier now lol http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[03:00] <rjr162> yuri__: that wasn't around when I did it
[03:00] <bencc> can I download a deb from 11.10 repo in a 12.04 machince?
[03:00] <Zxenz> violinappren and so the binary is messed up
[03:00] <yuri__> I hope this works. THis is extremely frustrating. I feel like I have to try and find a cricket phone that is designed around linux now.
[03:01] <violinappren> Zxenz:  try replacing us-east-1.ec with your country code (like us or uk) and run apt-get update
[03:01] <violinappren> Zxenz: then try --reinstall
[03:01] <rjr162> yuri__: looks like that's just for carriers and manufacturers... here's a youtube link (haven't watched) but I'm guessing it's along the same steps I used in the past http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ubuntu+on+android&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CIMBELcCMAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYbunTRzEQCI&ei=mZekT9a7FemN6QG9-pXdBA&usg=AFQjCNECqLwkUbWWJtOdbdYGHMfxbiByCQ&cad=rja
[03:02] <rjr162> yuri__: err shorter link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbunTRzEQCI
[03:03] <ericP> i recently ran into some challenges upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[03:04] <ericP> (a bunch of packages which ended up in iU state)
[03:04] <ericP> i gave up and installed from a USB
[03:05] <ericP> my gnome-control-center is now sparsely populated; has no, e.g. sound configuration icon
[03:05] <pedahzur> I'm trying to install 12.04 under KVM on a CentOS 6.2 host. Install starts, but then tells me: "ERROR    Couldn't find hvm kernel for Ubuntu tree."  Any ideas?
[03:05] <ericP> advice for something i can run from the command line or apt install?
[03:06] <Zxenz> violinappren same error
[03:06] <violinappren> Zxenz: eccentric
[03:06] <alankila> pedahzur: just to be clear, this is a message you see in the guest window or what?
[03:07] <Zxenz> violinappren is there a way to download it manually and force a local install somehow?
[03:08] <violinappren> Zxenz: what's your ubuntu version?
[03:09] <Zxenz> 11.10 server
[03:09] <violinappren> Zxenz: 64 bit?
[03:09] <Zxenz> yep
[03:09] <CAaronL> Having issues with a new 12.04 installation
[03:09] <pedahzur> alankila: I'm invoking with virt-install.  On a serial console (by passing in -x console=ttyS0,115200).  I see "Starting install..." then "Retrieving file version.info...                                                              |  116 B     00:00 ..." then the ERROR line.
[03:10] <CAaronL> I hadn't tried Ubuntu for over a year -- decided to try out the newest build
[03:10] <Zxenz> violinappren i tried apt-get download openssh-server and got E: FindIndex failed error
[03:10] <alankila> pedahzur: hm. I think I'm clueless about this, sorry. Doesn't match anything I've exprienced with kvm.
[03:10] <CAaronL> Installed 64-bit version on a Compaq Presario notebook with NVIDIA GPU
[03:11] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, are there any alternatives to Dia (software for editing and creating diagrams/flowcharts) that you may know of? :S
[03:11] <violinappren> Zxenz: wget http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu//pool/main/o/openssh/openssh-server_5.8p1-7ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[03:11] <violinappren> Zxenz: dpkg -i packagefile
[03:11] <CAaronL> Installation went smoothly, prompted to reboot to start Ubuntu -- after reboot, I get a message that Compiz has crashed, won't restart
[03:11] <violinappren> Zxenz: never seen that FindIndex error before!
[03:11] <CAaronL> And all I can see is a mouse cursor on the typical purplish background
[03:12] <pedahzur> alankila: Thanks. Even without the serial console, it gives that error.
[03:12] <Zxenz> violinappren my uname says x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 is amd64 right?
[03:12] <violinappren> Zxenz: yes
[03:12] <alankila> pedahzur: I think it's generated by the host system then?
[03:13] <CAaronL> Any suggestions?
[03:13] <alankila> does it try to autodetect the to-be installed system or something? (and if yes, why on earth.)
[03:14] <pedahzur> alankila: I guess so...I'm not 100% sure.
[03:14] <Zxenz>  violinappren http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/968298/
[03:15] <CAaronL> Having issues with a new 12.04 installation. Installed 64-bit version on a Compaq Presario notebook with NVIDIA GPU. Installation went smoothly, prompted to reboot to start Ubuntu -- after reboot, I get a message that Compiz has crashed, won't restart.  And all I can see is a mouse cursor on the typical purplish background.
[03:15] <violinappren> Zxenz: wget http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu//pool/main/o/openssh/openssh-client_5.8p1-7ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[03:15] <alankila> pedahzur: anyway I write the virsh configs by hand, tried virt-install once and decided it was just not matching my needs
[03:16] <violinappren> Zxenz: dpkg -i  server client
[03:16] <ericP> if i log in using "ubuntu", i get a panel widget for sound which runs `gnome-control-center sound-nua`
[03:16] <alankila> once you have one working config it's not hard to copypaste and adapt it for other machines
[03:17] <ericP> but when i login using "xfce", i see no icon, and running `gnome-control-center` gives me an almost empty set of controls
[03:17] <ericP> conspicuously absent is sound control
[03:18] <violinappren> ericP:  xubuntu uses pavucontrol
[03:19] <Zxenz> violinappren that fixed it, thanks!
[03:19] <violinappren> CAaronL:  select ubuntu 2d before you login
[03:19] <violinappren> Zxenz: you're welcome
[03:19] <ericP> violinappren, cool. that exists on xfce
[03:20] <CAaronL> violinappren: I set to autologin upon startup.  Is there a way to log out and then do so? I do get the login screen after a timeout.
[03:20] <Zxenz> violinappren wow than hpn patch really messes things up, it totally wrecked my sftp uploads
[03:21] <violinappren> Zxenz: it's a bad idea to patch raw binaries
[03:21] <violinappren> CAaronL: press the power button on your laptop, it should bring a dialog to log out
[03:21] <Zxenz> violinappren i didn't, i built it from source, patched the source and replaced binary
[03:22] <violinappren> Zxenz: aha i see
[03:23] <CAaronL> violinappren: I only get choice to: (Suspend /  Restart / Cancel / Shutdown).
[03:23] <ericP> violinappren, anything i can install to provide a panel icon which runs pavucontrol (i.e. remembers the name of it for me)?
[03:23] <violinappren> Zxenz: https://launchpad.net/~w-rouesnel/+archive/openssh-hpn
[03:23] <ludkiller> Ubuntu apt-get update error Some Index Files Failed TO Download they have been ignored , or old ones used instead
[03:23] <fishcooker> can i get hibernate option on PP
[03:23] <violinappren> ericP: indicator applet
[03:23] <ludkiller> cant do apt-get install vim
[03:24] <ludkiller> please help
[03:24] <CAaronL> violinappren: Somehow (I think I pressed one of the F-keys) I have a nautilus window open, although it has no titlebar, etc.
[03:24] <fishcooker> ludkiller: apt-get update first
[03:24] <ericP> violinappren, rockin' -- tx
[03:24] <ludkiller> ya i tried during apt get update
[03:25] <violinappren> CAaronL: try alt + f2 and then: metacity --replace
[03:25] <ludkiller>  Ubuntu apt-get update error Some Index Files Failed TO Download they have been ignored , or old ones used instead
[03:25] <violinappren> ericP: you're welcome
[03:25] <fishcooker> apt-get install vim-full ludkiller
[03:25] <bazhang> !info vim | ludkiller
[03:25] <ludkiller> ?
[03:25] <bazhang> ludkiller, thats the problem then
[03:25] <bazhang> ludkiller, fix that first
[03:26] <bazhang> ludkiller, lets see your sources.list in pastebin please
[03:26] <ludkiller> k
[03:26] <Zxenz> violinappren yeah i tried that first and it caused problems so then i compiled my own and followed patching instructions on his site
[03:26] <bazhang> !paste | ludkiller
[03:26] <violinappren> CAaronL: no option in the me menu to log out? top right on panel
[03:27] <ludkiller> where can i get the source.list
[03:27] <violinappren> Zxenz: perhaps you should stick with the stock version for the present time
[03:27] <ericP> after an upgrade, my i made the mistake of logging in with my Desktop directory moved away
[03:28] <CAaronL> violinappren: I'm in 2D -- Thank you!! I'm going to install nvidia driver and try again. I actually had no panel or menu anywhere.  Just a blank screen with the purple background and a mouse cursor.  But I got out with the ALT-F2.  Thank you AGAIN for your help.
[03:28] <Zxenz> violinappren yup i'm done with it, i'd rather have the reliability than the speed gain
[03:28] <violinappren> CAaronL: you're welcome
[03:28] <ericP> i logged out, moved it back and logged back in (both "ubuntu" and "xfce"), but i see all of my home directory on my desktop
[03:29] <ericP> also, nautilus has a little button on the left for Desktop, but clicking on it takes me to my home directory and highlights the home directory button
[03:29] <silouck> did anyone here managedto install ubuntu with encrypted partitions?
[03:29] <ludkiller> whats the command for searching for a particular string in an output
[03:29] <Sna4x8> http://askubuntu.com/questions/131487/mouse-focus-and-keyboard-error/131824 Anyone know the answer to that?  I have the same problem as those folks.
[03:31] <bazhang> ludkiller, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <silouck> ludkiller: grep
[03:31] <Sna4x8> ludkiller: What do you mean?  Do you just want to pipe your output to grep?  ls -l |grep something
[03:31] <ludkiller> ya
[03:31] <violinappren> Zxenz: you couldnt --reinstall or download because the package name was changed after you patched it
[03:31] <ludkiller> grep
[03:31] <bazhang> ludkiller, you can list it with cat , then paste to pastebin
[03:32] <violinappren> Zxenz: or rather, the version string
[03:33] <silouck> ANYONE here installed ubuntu with ENCRYPTED partitions?
[03:33] <bazhang> silouck, with the alternate cd?
[03:33] <Zxenz> violinappren that's useful to know thanks, the patch appends the hpn version to it, tsk
[03:33] <bazhang> silouck, whats the real question
[03:33] <silouck> bazhang: anything
[03:34] <silouck> bazhang: thats the question
[03:34] <bazhang> silouck, you expect everyone here to answer yes/no to  that? ask a real question
[03:34] <silouck> i did tried woth the alternate cd and its IMPOSSIBLE to install encrypting partitions
[03:35] <silouck> bazhang: i expect someone can answer
[03:35] <silouck> if has anyone tried, and if there was anyone who made to do it
[03:36] <silouck> already tried also to isntall debian (the same install that ubuntu uses) and its also impossible to install and encrypt partitions
[03:37] <silouck> so far onlye Mageia, fedora and opensuse allow to isntall with encrypted partitions, i didnt tried more distros buti think its also possible with Arch
[03:38] <silouck> and being ubuntu with so much users, how is possible for such a distro to have a broken install to encrypt partitions
[03:39] <ludkiller> !pastebinit
[03:39] <violinappren> !bug | silouck
[03:39] <dzup> !bug dzup
[03:39] <silouck> already reported this bug but no one seams to care...
[03:39] <silouck> this is a joke...
[03:40] <violinappren> silouck: where's your bug report?
[03:40] <silouck> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/993761
[03:42] <tamaros> you reported that yesterday?
[03:42] <silouck> i dont think so
[03:43] <LgL> i have problem with my ubuntu 12.04.. everything was fine till y-day.. i boot up but i only come to tty1 terminal log in.. X will not start
[03:43] <LgL> it hangs in checking battery state
[03:44] <Trel> I just installed smbclient and now smbpasswd just broke "smbpasswd: symbol krb5_locate_kdc, version krb5_3_MIT not defined in file libkrb5.so"
[03:48] <mi3> I installed mate minutes ago, and I get this http://imagebin.org/211056 any suggestions?
[03:48] <bazhang> mi3, mate is not supported here
[03:49] <sergiu-dev> hi
[03:49] <mi3> bazhang, ok
[03:49] <sergiu-dev> if i will install ubuntu from windows inside windows, will he work standlone without windows?
[03:49] <bazhang> sergiu-dev, wubi?
[03:49] <sergiu-dev> bazhang: yep
[03:49] <bazhang> sergiu-dev, no
[03:50] <sergiu-dev> ok
[03:50] <bazhang> better to dual boot sergiu-dev
[03:50] <test> test
[03:50] <sergiu-dev> only lazy to burn it on cd
[03:50] <bazhang> !test > test
[03:50] <root> !test > root
[03:51] <bazhang> root, usb install works as well using unetbootin
[03:51] <Girffe> Hey, I have a question about vim that I was hoping someone here could answer
[03:51] <Girffe> Why is it that the hjkl keys are used for movement instead of jkl;?
[03:51] <Guest16693> will install ubuntu to see if wubi run games as better as windows do
[03:51] <Guest16693> wine*
[03:53] <Guest16693> is KDE 4.8.3 stable as gnome is?
[03:53] <bazhang> Guest16693, it wont. wubi has nothing to do with running windows games
[03:53] <Guest16693> i just don't like his start-menu
[03:53] <bazhang> Guest16693, try a live cd and see
[03:53] <KingBeast> why am I having such a hard time creating another account on my computer?
[03:53] <ludkiller> lol finally
[03:53] <ludkiller> hey heres the sources.list
[03:53] <ludkiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/968329/
[03:53] <Gnea> KingBeast: try using sudo
[03:54] <ludkiller> about the apt-get update
[03:54] <ludkiller> error
[03:54] <ludkiller> heres source.list
[03:54] <ludkiller> u asked for
[03:54] <ludkiller> |||| *WB* cn28h ||||| [* cn28h is now playing with TRON's weiner]
[03:54] <FloodBot1> ludkiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <ludkiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/968329/
[03:54] <KingBeast> I'm doing it in System Settings>User Accounts Gnea
[03:55] <Guest16693> doese anyone run woW on linux ?
[03:55] <Gnea> KingBeast: did you check your own group settings to make sure that you have the priveleges to do so?
[03:55] <bazhang> Guest16693, yes, whats the real question
[03:55] <Gnea> !wow > Guest16693
[03:56] <KingBeast> Gnea, It's a fresh install why should I have to?
[03:56] <Guest16693> bazhang what' the performance in comparision with windows, doese it run a little more slow on wine
[03:56] <Gnea> KingBeast: it doesn't matter, you either have permissions to or you don't.
[03:56] <bazhang> Guest16693, check the appdb and /join #winehq
[03:56] <bazhang> !appdb | Guest16693
[03:56] <Guest16693> what's appdb
[03:57] <bazhang> Guest16693, I just told you
[03:57] <Guest16693> ok thanks
[03:57] <bazhang> Guest16693, Join #winehq for application help
[03:57] <Gnea> KingBeast: I think you need to chnage the account type and/or advanced settings
[03:58] <Gnea> KingBeast: once you fix your account, logout/login and try to create a user account
[04:01] <rokr1> UBUNTU is becoming jackass with user privacy these days
[04:01] <rootnoobtux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/968337/ <--- pls help me about this.....i tried to activate my broadcom sta driver but i got that error message
[04:01] <bazhang> rokr1, wrong channel
[04:02] <nikitakit> How do I report a bug without specifying the package or PID at fault.
[04:02] <rokr1> I see unity-geoip etc opening outbound connections
[04:02] <rokr1> to ubuntu connections
[04:02] <rokr1> unable to remove the unity
[04:02] <KingBeast> WTF man this is rediculous
[04:03] <wylde> !wtf | KingBeast
[04:03] <rokr1> I dislike the unity why cant ubuntu allow generic Gnome 3
[04:03] <Guest16693> rock1, why you don't like unity?
[04:03] <Guest16693> It's great, imo
[04:03] <bazhang> !notunity | rokr1
[04:04] <m4v> rokr1: ^
[04:04] <wylde> rokr1: you have generic gnome3
[04:04] <bazhang> rokr1, then change it. stop complaining. this is not the place for rants
[04:04] <rokr1> I am right now with 12.04LTS
[04:04] <nikitakit> How can I report a bug against Ubuntu without specifying a package or PID? I have no idea which part of the OS is at fault
[04:04] <bazhang> rokr1, so do what the link above says
[04:04] <tamaros> other than lack of support what problems might I run into if I update gcc to a newer version that what Ubuntu includes?
[04:04] <wylde> nikitakit: explain it please we may be able to help you determine what package.
[04:05] <nikitakit> wylde: On resuming from suspend, all graphics elements except the mouse cursor fail to draw
[04:06] <nikitakit> keyboard still inputs into fields, and buttons are still clickable (assuming you guess where on the pure-black screen they are)
[04:06] <wylde> nikitakit: ahh i see, moment please
[04:06] <KingBeast> I can't even run adduser as root.
[04:10] <wylde> nikitakit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu <--- if you could go here and search for the issue you're having you'll probably find a very similar bug. There's quite a few.
[04:11] <wylde> nikitakit: does bug #966744 seem to be right?
[04:11] <nikitakit> wylde: sounds like the same issue
[04:12] <wylde> nikitakit: are you using intel graphics though?
[04:12] <nikitakit> yes
[04:13] <dr_willis> i wonder if hibernate would have the same issue.
[04:13] <wylde> nikitakit: then I guess you can just click the "This affects me" and add yourself.
[04:13] <wylde> dr_willis: I actually read something about hibernate being disabled by default. I think when I was patching stuff for the documents team.
[04:13] <Itaku> Is there any way to make my Validity Fingerprint Reader work on Ubuntu?
[04:14] <nikitakit> wylde: for future reference, is there a way to report a bug against no package in particular?
[04:14] <dr_willis> wylde:  omgubuntu or webupd8 site had an artical on reenabling it  - last week
[04:14] <nikitakit> Almost all of the bugs I've had are some combination of kernel, graphics, compiz/unity, and gnome to the point where I can't tell anything
[04:14] <wylde> nikitakit: if usurew use ubuntu, just do your best to be as clear as possible about the issue :) A triager will probably put it in it's proper place.
[04:15] <wylde> !bugs
[04:15] <wylde> there's some info on that link to help identify the package. It saves a lot of time if bugs get put in the right place to start with.
[04:16] <Itaku> so does anyone know how to make a laptop built in finger print reader work on ubuntu? (validity sensor)
[04:16] <wylde> dr_willis: ahh alrighty. :)
[04:16] <nikitakit> Being forced to guess a package when I report a bug actually deters me from reporting bugs
[04:16] <nikitakit> I know I'll guess wrong, and I've had past experiences with bugs being ignored because they were in the wrong package
[04:17] <dr_willis> Itaku:  what do  you want it  todo exactly? there might be some PAM modules to  use  it for  somthing.
[04:17] <wylde> nikitakit: it can be a pain sometimes. Even if you can give a "best guess" it's still probably closer than just filing againt "ubuntu"
[04:17] <Itaku> dr_willis: trying to make it so I can login/identify to sudo/unlock my laptop using a fingerprint reader other than a password.
[04:17] <nikitakit> thanks!
[04:18] <dr_willis> Itaku:  id say search askubuntu.com and the forums.
[04:18] <Itaku> alright will do
[04:18] <rootnoobtux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/968337/ <--- pls help me about this.....i tried to activate my broadcom sta driver but i got that error message
[04:19] <dr_willis> Mythbusteres  cracked a fingerprint reader with a magic marker and  putty. and  a photocopyerr.. i  recall. ;)
[04:19] <m4v> nikitakit: do you use ubuntu-bug? it tries to figure out the package.
[04:19] <Itaku> well I don't work for the CIA so I'm not too worried about that.
[04:19] <mmc_> greetings ubuntu channe folks... i have a problem trying to install precise...
[04:19] <princesse> c
[04:19] <nikitakit> m4v: ubuntu-bug doesn't really help for the kinds of problems I have
[04:20] <nikitakit> I say 'graphics problem', and it reports against intel graphics. Which is nice, except sometimes the problem is with compiz, gnome, or something else
[04:20] <dr_willis> Linux is like an Onion.. layers and layerrs.. ;)
[04:21] <m4v> nikitakit: fill the bug against all those? then let the maintainers to sort it out :P
[04:21] <wylde> nikitakit: If you think you have info to add to that bug (although it seems to have plenty f activity already) you can do 'apport-collect bugnumber'
[04:21] <dr_willis> Linux is like legos - little blocks stuck together... to make layers.. of a giant lego onion
[04:22] <dr_willis> I wondere if  the  lightdm not  letting users login,  but  guest can login.. bug has been fixxed yet.
[04:22] <mmc_> when i boot the installer (either graphical or alternate) i get a garbled screen.
[04:22] <dr_willis> !nomodeset |mmc_
[04:22] <nikitakit> m4v: I still remember a very annoying problem that was never addressed, by anyone. It went away on upgrade from gnome 2 to gnome 3
[04:23] <mmc_> i have installed linux mint on this laptop, but I *want* to run ubuntu precise
[04:23] <wylde> m4v: doing that just keeps the triagers and devs from getting anythng done because we have to sort thorough it all and put it in the proper place and gather info before the devs can do anything with it.
[04:23] <mmc_> dr_willis: not sure how to pass a boot parameter to a screen i can't read...
[04:23] <dr_willis> mmc_:  that url shows you  how..,.
[04:24] <dr_willis> unles you  dont even see the  boot/syslinux menu... then  thats a deeper issue
[04:24] <m4v> wylde: well, is what triaggers are for, it is better than no bug at all.
[04:25] <dr_willis> better then no 'bug report'  at all... ;)
[04:25] <mmc_> i looked at it... it says something about a purple screen with a logo at the bottom and setting my language... i can't see those screens
[04:25] <tutysra> installing skype on 12.04 had screwed up my system - I couldn't install any packages, getting - The following packages have unmet dependencies, followed by a long list of qt4 binaries
[04:26] <dr_willis> mmc_:  when the cd first boots you  should see a little man=keybord icon, tap the space key i think to  get to the syslinux options.
[04:26] <dr_willis> one of the  very  fitrst things you see - goes by real real fast
[04:26] <dr_willis> tap like a woodpecker  on the  keybord as it boots. ;)
[04:27] <mmc_> dr_willis: i don't see that screen... or if i do, it's scrambled... right now, i have the alternate install image burned to my usb stick
[04:27] <dr_willis> mmc_:  the alternative instsller uses text mode. so   it could be some other odd quirk with  your system.  How did  you birn  the iso to the  usb?
[04:28] <mmc_> startup disk creator in linux mint 12
[04:28] <tutysra> finally  in the end it says - E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)., I did sudo apt-get -f install and  it crashes with this error - " libqt4-test:amd64 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 cannot be configured because libqt4-test:i386 is in a different version (4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4)"
[04:28] <dr_willis> mmc_:  you could look  at the  syslinux config files on the usb and try adding nomodeset to  the options
[04:29] <dr_willis> mmc_:  or it could be somthing to  do with how mint made the usb.. theres alternativ tools at the pendrivelinuxx  site to  make  the usb
[04:29] <tutysra> any idea how to resolve this unmet dependencies issue?
[04:30] <dr_willis> tutysra:  libqt-test came from  some ppa? remove it and disable the ppa perhaps.
[04:30] <mmc_> dr_willis: i have used the linux mint tool to burn iso's to boot my desktop computer and have had no problems
[04:30] <mmc_> dr_willis: i don't think it's the burning tool
[04:31] <dr_willis> mmc_:  it may not  be correct for  thenewer  ubuntu releases..  you can use dd to put  the iso on the  usb  also. no extra tools needed.
[04:31] <mmc_> dr_willis: i tried to burn elementary and got the same problem... but not with mint
[04:31] <dr_willis> dd or cat can image the 12.04 iso  straight to usb.   -  which is handy. but  im  not  sure if that  works with the  alt-cd. it should i imagine.
[04:32] <dr_willis> you can also set up  grub2 to boot the ISO  images. and have a single  usb with severall isos on it
[04:32] <dr_willis> bbml gotta get to work
[04:34] <tutysra> dr_willis : i installed skype by downloading it from their website (.deb file) and this issue started when skype installation was aborted due to unmet dependencies, tried doing apt-get remove libqt4-test but again apt-get refuses to do anything other than giving the old error and suggesting to run apt-get install -f
[04:34] <merganser82> hi
[04:34] <ianliu> My flashplayer is very unstable in Ubuntu 12.04 with Nvidia card. If I'm watching a youtube video, 90% of the time the flashplayer crashs. Anyone with the same problem? Any hints?
[04:35] <seekitor> hello
[04:36] <seekitor> 有没有会汉语的，我不会英语哎
[04:36] <tutysra> ianliu : I had the problem watching flash videos, the transistion was not smooth and my computer heated up rapidly, I switched from the open source drivers to the proprietary drivers from restricted extras and it fixed that issue.
[04:37] <wylde> !cn | seekitor
[04:37] <seekitor> oh  thx
[04:40] <linux_is_my_hero> when did limewire die?
[04:40] <linux_is_my_hero> :-(
[04:40] <linux_is_my_hero> toms are sad.
[04:41] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone here know anything about tor?
[04:41] <linux_is_my_hero> kaleidoscope: interesting you should ask that...limewire is dead and it used torrent files :-(
[04:42] <linux_is_my_hero> apparently bearshare is an alternative...
[04:42] <Kaleidoscope> Not torrents, I mean TOR the proxy program :P
[04:44] <tamaros> what do you need to know about tor.  I know a teensy bit.
[04:44] <Kaleidoscope> I'm getting this silly error and can't connect to anything May 04 22:19:38.009 [warn] socks5: command 3 not recognized. Rejecting.
[04:44] <Kaleidoscope> May 04 22:19:38.009 [warn] Fetching socks handshake failed. Closing.
[04:44] <|Anthony|> i can't log in to one of the user accounts. here is a pastebin of .xsession-errors showing many errors. Note line 89 - 91
[04:44] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/JPH5KUcs
[04:45] <Kaleidoscope> I figured I'd try the TOR IRC Channel, But it's just full of dead people :P
[04:45] <|Anthony|> this only happens with the one user acct. Coincidentally its the admin acct
[04:46] <|Anthony|> not even using ssh -X will let me launch gedit for example
[04:47] <etzerd> hello all
[04:47] <|Anthony|> i get this error when i try
[04:47] <|Anthony|> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[04:47] <|Anthony|> Cannot open display:
[04:47] <etzerd> when the 12.04 will be out?
[04:47] <B|tchX> what are you trying to set up Kaleidoscope
[04:47] <tamaros> Kaleidoscope: Sorry, beyond my knowledge level =/
[04:47] <whytw0sean> it is out..
[04:47] <etzerd> when?
[04:47] <whytw0sean> right now?
[04:48] <whytw0sean> lol
[04:48] <etzerd> right now?
[04:48] <whytw0sean> yes
[04:48] <etzerd> or last month?
[04:48] <etzerd> do you know the date?
[04:48] <whytw0sean> No? i know its out cuz im on 12.04 right now
[04:48] <wylde> etzerd: it was released on the 26th of April.
[04:49] <Kaleidoscope> B|tchX I'm trying to configure QBittorrent to run through tor, And I've set it to 127.0.0.1 9050, And I've tried both socks 4 and socks 5, Same error either way
[04:49] <etzerd> ok, thanks
[04:49] <whytw0sean> Ty wylde kinda new to ubuntu :P
[04:49] <wylde> whytw0sean: np
[04:49] <|Anthony|> Kaleidoscope, torrents through tor will be paingully slow and THEY DISCOURAGE trying
[04:50] <Kaleidoscope> I know it'll be slower, But gotta use a proxy anyways. And I've tried just using many different proxies I've founbd Online, And none of them connect either
[04:51] <|Anthony|> Kaleidoscope, you do realize that all traffic goes through your isp any way, right?
[04:52] <B|tchX> Kaleidoscope you might just want to proxychain it out it's easier: proxychains programname
[04:52] <B|tchX> Kaleidoscope, you may have to install proxychains and configure /etc/proxychains.conf
[04:52] <|Anthony|> anyone have any insight on my pastebin?
[04:53] <B|tchX> Kaleidoscope, you may also want to put your irssi behind tor
[04:53] <Kaleidoscope> IRC Is fine, Just need it for torrents really :P
[04:53] <|Anthony|> Kaleidoscope, you're better off wardriving
[04:53] <B|tchX> what pastebin |Anthony|
[04:54] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/JPH5KUcs
[04:54] <wylde_> exit
[04:54] <|Anthony|> fail
[04:54] <Kaleidoscope> Anthony, Every Router around here is on WPA2, Not gonna work :P
[04:55] <|Anthony|> it has the word "driving" in it for a reason
[04:55] <B|tchX> |Anthony|, look at dmesg or /var/log/kern.log That will tell you what the problem is
[04:56] <B|tchX> rebooting
[04:57] <Kaleidoscope> proxychains just makes my torrent program freeze
[04:58] <|Anthony|> Kaleidoscope, pay for a vpn
[04:58] <Kaleidoscope> If I could pay for things, I wouldn't be using torrents :P
[04:59] <|Anthony|> if you're just getting broadcast tv shows, use your own ip
[04:59] <|Anthony|> or look into xbmc & navix
[05:00] <Kaleidoscope> For TV Shows, I got a netflix account
[05:01] <Kaleidoscope> Was using it to get a movie that wasn't on there
[05:01] <Kaleidoscope> But I got traced once or whatever, And my ISP Through a B*tch fit about it, so ye
[05:03] <|Anthony|> Kaleidoscope, the truth of it is, ALL traffic goes through your isp. No amount of obfuscation will change that
[05:03] <Kaleidoscope> The ISP themselves won't even bother to check, I just gotta watch out for the movie companies
[05:03] <Kaleidoscope> Cause I used to torrent all the time, Never heard one peep from the ISP
[05:06] <whytw0sean> Can Anyone help me?.. im new to ubuntu and want to create a FTP server how would i go about that i know google but i dont feel like takin the easy way out
[05:07] <gerald_> hi, I would like to bind some keys to raise/lower the current window, with unity 2d on ubuntu 12.04, anyone know how?
[05:07] <Kaleidoscope> Just search the reository for an FTP Server program
[05:08] <gerald_> oh, I think I just found it (where it should be, settings/keyboard/windows); checked there before but missed it somehow
[05:09] <scorch> When I upgrade flash player it always downloads from archive.canonical.com instead of the mirror I've specified in synaptic; I'm currently in china, and canonical.com is a really slow mirror here. Why is it not downloading from the specified mirror?
[05:10] <B|tchX> get it from sourceforge
[05:11] <B|tchX> nobody is around
[05:11]  * B|tchX swimming around naked
[05:12] <scorch> what
[05:12] <JokesOnYou77> hi all
[05:13] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone tell me the name of the program that Ubuntu uses to check for proprietary drivers?
[05:14] <B|tchX> sudo jockey-gtk
[05:14] <JokesOnYou77> jockey-gtk?
[05:14] <ddd> welcome
[05:15] <|Anthony|> JokesOnYou77, search for Additional Drivers
[05:15] <JokesOnYou77> B|tchX: thank you!
[05:16] <B|tchX> everyone will be back after the bars close around 2 lol
[05:16] <whytw0sean> Hi can someone help me? I keep logging off idk why  it says its because of /usr/bin/nautilus
[05:17] <whytw0sean> says nautilus crashed with SIGBRT in raise()
[05:18] <Ben64> SIGABRT?
[05:18] <whytw0sean> Idk?
[05:18] <whytw0sean> Thats what it says
[05:19] <B|tchX> its a big whytw0sean
[05:19] <B|tchX> bug*
[05:19] <whytw0sean> Well i havent been experiencing it the whole time
[05:19] <whytw0sean> just now started
[05:19] <whytw0sean> Its like my screen goes Black and then logs me out
[05:20] <whytw0sean> Package: nautilus 1:3.4.1-0ubuntu1
[05:20] <whytw0sean> type is crash
[05:21] <B|tchX> What version ubuntu are you on whytw0sean
[05:21] <whytw0sean> 12.04
[05:21] <wylde> whytw0sean: 'ubuntu-bug nautilus' will start a bug report.
[05:21] <B|tchX> 12.04 sux
[05:21] <Elotero> Do you hate nigras?
[05:21] <Elotero> I do!
[05:21] <Elotero> I am so sick of their god damn monkeyshines!
[05:21] <Elotero> That is why I am a member of Chimpout Forum!
[05:22] <Elotero> Join here #ubuntu! http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[05:22] <wylde> !ot | Elotero
[05:22] <whytw0sean> B|tch what ver do u run
[05:22] <B|tchX> 11.10
[05:22] <B|tchX> kubuntu
[05:23] <whytw0sean> Ooh i used to have Xubuntu lol way back
[05:23] <whytw0sean> Never Kubuntu
[05:23] <B|tchX> I was on gnome and then switched to kde and never left in 15 years
[05:23] <whytw0sean> But anyways it doesnt bother me i can live with it, i was just wondering if it was a bug or if it was just a simple problem like if i disabled nat or something.
[05:23] <Elotero> sorry wylde
[05:24] <Elotero> I had no idea that racial hatred against negros wasn't allowed here
[05:24] <Elotero> I have been set straight
[05:24] <whytw0sean> I know when i used Xubuntu i could blacklist nat
[05:24] <wylde> Elotero: you about finished?
[05:24] <Elotero> wylde  can you read?
[05:24] <Elotero> or are you one of the ones I was complaining about?
[05:24] <Elotero> of course I am finished
[05:25] <Gallomimia> ah help. i am booting from a live cd to install to a hd. it crashed during install so back to booting from a live cd. it now progresses directly to power off the monitor. how do i fix it??
[05:25] <whytw0sean> Wylde, do u think i could black list Nat and see if that solves the problem?
[05:26] <Sidewinder> Gallomimia, Did you md5sum the ISO, prior to burning?
[05:26] <wylde> whytw0sean: nautilus is the default file manager.
[05:26] <Gallomimia> no :/
[05:26] <whytw0sean> Oh
[05:26] <Gallomimia> but it worked the first time. why should it not work now?
[05:26] <Elotero> how many people in here are from MExico?
[05:27] <wylde> !ot | elo
[05:27] <Elotero> Am I the only one?
[05:27] <Sidewinder> Gallomimia, That would be where I'd start; perhaps the downloaded image is faulty.
[05:27] <Elotero> by the way, I am trying to install my aol diarrhea ap on ubuntu using wine
[05:27] <Elotero> is there any help for that?
[05:27] <wylde> Elotero: general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:27] <wylde> !ops | Elotero language/racism/spam
[05:27] <Gallomimia> Sidewinder: if it was faulty, wouldn't it have failed the first time i got it up and running then experienced an install error?
[05:28] <Elotero> racism?
[05:28] <Elotero> I asked a technical question
[05:28] <Elotero> wylde you are one retarded burro
[05:28] <wylde> Elotero: hardly
[05:28] <Sidewinder> Gallomimia, Probably but best to be sure.
[05:28] <Elotero> may 1000 elephants rape you wylde
[05:28] <Elotero> and leave their semen dripping out of your booty
[05:28] <Sidewinder> !ops Elotero
[05:28] <Gallomimia> oh no not the elephants! dyou leave the elephants alone man
[05:29] <Elotero> okay...  incans
[05:29] <whytw0sean> Anyways, i have another question wylde, when i try to run a .sh file i go to props and hit execute the program, then hit run in terminal... and all it does is
[05:29]  * B|tchX set ban #$%$$## on Elotero
[05:30] <whytw0sean> opens closes fast
[05:30] <maca> Hello from Spain!!
[05:31] <B|tchX> !spanish
[05:31] <wylde> whytw0sean: ummm explain that again please?
[05:31] <wylde> whytw0sean: props? hit run?
[05:31] <Sidewinder> yano, Thanks. :)
[05:31] <wylde> yes, thank you yano
[05:32] <thomaspr> Flash 11 causes midori to crash in natty :-( Is this a question für Ubuntu support ? If not - where else can I look for related issues ?
[05:32] <whytw0sean> When i try to run a .sh file.. i right click the file and go to Propertys an then I hit Permissions and then go down to "Allow Executing file as program" an then i double click it and then all it does is opens and closes fast
[05:32] <maca> a question: when I use Transmission, when I add a url magnet, Should it show me the content of a file to peer, as a torrent file?
[05:32] <xuserx> hello
[05:32] <maca> I hope you understand me
[05:33] <maca> ...
[05:33] <wylde> whytw0sean: in properties that's is just setting the execuable bit, that much is correct. You'll have better results launching .sh scripts from the terminal.
[05:34] <maca> I say, when I open a torrent file, as you know, it pop up showing me the content of the torrent to peer
[05:34] <whytw0sean> so i would go to terminal then go to the cd <whatever> and then do ./blah.sh
[05:34] <whytw0sean> ?
[05:34] <maca> before procceding to download
[05:34] <wylde> whytw0sean: eg 'cd ~/Desktop' './somescript.sh'
[05:34] <whytw0sean> Ok ty
[05:34] <wylde> whytw0sean: exactly
[05:34] <whytw0sean> Ill try it
[05:35] <foolsh> maca: I noticed this same behaviour in transmission. it goes straight to download. I tried out vuze which had better options but was a bit heavy for slow systems
[05:35] <jean_brat> hello every one :).
[05:35] <jean_brat> I have an issue related to network manager, I am trying to share the internet connected to my laptop through lan cable to my mobile phone,(to update the firmware on the phone)
[05:35] <jean_brat> I have changed the Auto eth0 IPv4 settings to shared to other computers instead of Automatic DHCP
[05:35] <jean_brat> Created a new wireless network with WPA /WPA2 personal with <network_name> my phone does not detect the network. My phone says invalid WEP key
[05:35] <FloodBot1> jean_brat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <Gallomimia> Sidewinder: the disc is working fine again. unknown reason. great disagreement as to the cause
[05:35] <wylde> whytw0sean: also just for future reference. Since you'll be opening a terminal anyway, the command 'chmod +x filename' will set the file as executable
[05:35] <Sidewinder> maca, I use azureus/vuze, but with maganet it just starts the download.
[05:36] <jean_brat> I have an issue related to network manager, I am trying to share the internet connected to my laptop through lan cable to my mobile phone,(to update the firmware on the phone)
[05:36] <Sidewinder> !nomodeset | Gallomimia
[05:36] <jean_brat> I have changed the Auto eth0 IPv4 settings to shared to other computers instead of Automatic DHCP
[05:36] <wylde> !patience | jean_brat
[05:36] <maca> ah... ok, so . it don't show me first before downloading.
[05:36] <Sidewinder> Gallomimia, You could try that.
[05:37] <foolsh> jean_brat: your phone most likely wants a WEP encrypted connection not a WPA/WPA2 encrypted connection
[05:37] <whytw0sean> Heh Wylde it says Bash: ./: is a directory
[05:37] <whytw0sean> ...
[05:37] <whytw0sean> when i do ./dshsdh.sh
[05:37] <Sidewinder> maca, Correct, at least mine does not; it just starts the d/l.
[05:37] <maca> are you telling me that transmission has problem to administrate magnet?
[05:37] <wylde> whytw0sean: does the file actually exist?
[05:37] <whytw0sean> Yes lol
[05:37] <m0ugly> hello
[05:38] <m0ugly> how can I prevent gdm from being run at system startup ?
[05:38] <Gnea> m0ugly: remove it
[05:38] <m0ugly> I had a look in /etc/rc2.d/, but didn't find a Sxxgdm link
[05:38] <Gnea> m0ugly: or use update-rc.d
[05:38] <Sidewinder> maca, Not at all; sounds like the same as my peer2peer client.
[05:38] <wylde> whytw0sean: you're not putting a space afte the / I hope
[05:38] <Gallomimia> it says a second time an unrecoverable error so i suspect i should do that. is it built into the disk at all?
[05:38] <Gnea> m0ugly: /etc/init.d/ would be the proper root for that
[05:38] <whytw0sean> No im doing this
[05:38] <m0ugly> I tried, but there's no gdm startup script in the corresponding runlevel dir
[05:38] <whytw0sean> ./jhjdhjdjsd.sh
[05:39] <whytw0sean> I tryed sudo ./hdsdj.sh also but nothing happens
[05:39] <Gnea> m0ugly: what did you type?
[05:39] <maca> ok. thanks very much. And sorry for my poor english level, because i'm writing from spain
[05:39] <m0ugly> I told you there's no link to gdm inside /etc/rc2.d
[05:39] <wylde> whytw0sean: is there anything inside the file? Or are you trying to run empty files as scripts.
[05:39] <B|tchX> m0ugly, http://askubuntu.com/questions/76543/how-do-i-disable-gdm-and-graphical-user-selection
[05:39] <Gnea> m0ugly: and I asked you what you typed, exactly.
[05:40] <m0ugly> I didn't type anything
[05:40] <m0ugly> thanks B|tchX
[05:40] <m0ugly> looks like what I was looking for
[05:40] <whytw0sean> Lol Im not stupid dude (No Disrespect) :P i know your trying to help me.. I looked at the script theres Stuff inside.
[05:40] <whytw0sean> Hm
[05:40] <Gnea> m0ugly: then you obviously didn't try using update-rc.d... anyway, hope it works out
[05:40] <whytw0sean> Well this was a windows program... it was a .bat file which is mainly the same thing as a .sh file... all i did was change the .bat to .sh
[05:40] <whytw0sean> Would that make a diff?
[05:40] <Sidewinder> maca, My pleasure; and I wish my Spanish was as good as your English.
[05:41] <whytw0sean> I changed it is what im saying to .sh when normally it would be .bat
[05:41] <wylde> whytw0sean: umm yes, a batch file is NOT the same as a bash script.
[05:41] <foolsh> whytw0sean: huge diff
[05:41] <whytw0sean> mmk
[05:41] <jean_brat> foolsh, Thanks a lot man.. i havent tried that one.. its working
[05:41] <whytw0sean> So how would i make it a .sh file? just copy the text ?
[05:41] <whytw0sean> and remake a .sh file?
[05:41] <whytw0sean> Or?
[05:42] <wylde> whytw0sean: batch file commands won't work in linux. Perhaps if you ran them in wine
[05:42] <whytw0sean> hm
[05:42] <phanimahesh> whytw0sean: yes, that does. bash scripting is not the same as batch scrtpting for cmd
[05:42] <m0ugly> Gnea, for that to work there must be a gdm script inside the proper directory for my current runlevel
[05:42] <m0ugly> there is NOT soft link inside /etc/rc2.d pointing at /etc/init.d/gdm.conf
[05:43] <whytw0sean> Wine says: There is No Windows Program configured to open this type of file.
[05:43] <maca> nice to meet you,  sidewinder
[05:43] <Sidewinder> whytw0sean, Please remember that .bat files usually contain DOS commands; not generally linux commands.
[05:43] <phanimahesh> whytw0sean: you will need to rewrite the program for bash
[05:43] <Gallomimia> can i tell the ubuntu live cd to check itself?
[05:43] <Sidewinder> maca, Same. :-)
[05:43] <phanimahesh> does wine ask you to choose a prog?
[05:43] <whytw0sean> Idk sorry im  new to Ubuntu
[05:44] <phanimahesh> whytw0sean: no probs. everyone is/was, at some point of time..
[05:44] <Sidewinder> !who | whytw0sean
[05:45] <whytw0sean> kk
[05:45] <Sidewinder> :)
[05:45] <apan> hello I tried to set my ip to static (which i've done successfully before) but I get the following error: "RTNETLINK answers: File exists Failed to bring up eth0." this is my network interface: #auto eth0, iface eth0 inet static - address x.x.x.x - netmask 255.255.255.0 - gateway x.x.x.x, i've also set up my nameservers, anyone? :-x
[05:46] <foolsh> whytw0sean: take a look at http://www.winehq.org/ if you want windows programs running under linux
[05:46] <whytw0sean> Well i know how to use wine
[05:46] <whytw0sean> :-p
[05:47] <whytw0sean> but i will look since i havent yet
[05:47] <phanimahesh> !whytw0sean does wine give you an option of selecting the prog to open the .bat file? if yes, select cmd.exe
[05:47] <whytw0sean> well no it doesnt
[05:47] <whytw0sean> it just go str8 to term
[05:47] <Sidewinder> whytw0sean, Actually, I've never had much success with wine.
[05:47] <whytw0sean> but then it spams "cannot find file"
[05:48] <B|tchX> !networking | apan
[05:48] <whytw0sean> !tab Sidewinder i like wine to be honest with u
[05:48] <whytw0sean> lol
[05:48] <average_drifter> lol @ http://books.google.ro/books?id=OSr42pEuTE8C
[05:48] <whytw0sean> Sidewinder, i like wine
[05:48] <phanimahesh> whytw0sean: try this. open terminal and run locate cmd.exe
[05:49] <phanimahesh> that gives you the path to cmd.exe version of wine.
[05:49] <Sidewinder> whytw0sean, If it works for you that's great, the few things I tried didn't work but I may have messed them up. :-(
[05:49] <whytw0sean> phanimahesh, it does nothing it just goes to the next line
[05:49] <phanimahesh> the probably cmd.exe isn't there..
[05:49] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: maybe a stupid question, but was it called "something.bat" or "something.sh" when you tried to run it in wine?
[05:50] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor, it was .bat at first then i changed it to .sh
[05:50] <phanimahesh> change it back to bat and run in wine
[05:50] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: was that before or after you tried running it in wine?
[05:50] <phanimahesh> wine cant handle .sh scripts.. :P
[05:51] <Sidewinder> whytw0sean, If you wish to learn *nix scripting, here is a good place to start: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/part1.html
[05:51] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: if it's still called "something.sh", wine won't know it's actually a *batch* file
[05:51] <whytw0sean> phanimahesh,  i changed it back to .bat and ran it with wine, spams the term cannot find file.
[05:51] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: well, at least it's trying to run it now :)
[05:51] <foolsh> whytw0sean: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/red-hat-fedora-linux/112720-how-run-bat-files-wine.html#post658509
[05:52] <phanimahesh> try updating/reinstalling wine or create a new wine prefix.
[05:52] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: are you able to pastebin the batch script? I know a bit of batch and will be able to tell if it's just a standard script or trying to run something more "exotic"
[05:53] <phanimahesh> cmd.exe is probably missing in your current setup, and if that is the case. wine can't run your batch script.
[05:53] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: basically, if the batch script has anything other than standard DOS commands, wine probably won't be able to execute them.
[05:53] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor,  a friend of mine wants me to Create a server.. for this game he plays so im trying to set it up
[05:53] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: minecraft?
[05:53] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor,  No its Runescape or something.. idk
[05:54] <Ben64> you should probably figure out what it is before you run it
[05:54] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor,  i know wht it is
[05:54] <whytw0sean> er
[05:54] <whytw0sean> Ben64,  i know what it is
[05:54] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[05:54] <Ben64> idk = I don't know
[05:54] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: well, if the batch script is supposed to launch the game server, I highly doubt it will work unless the game server is also installed. If the script is for customizing windows to make the server work, wine probably doesn't contain the parts it is trying to customize
[05:55] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor,  now could i install cmd prompt?
[05:55] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: first, how complex of a script is this? It may be easier to simply create a shell (.sh) script that does the same thing
[05:56] <Sidewinder> whytw0sean, You may want to look here to find out if the game even runs in wine: http://www.winehq.org/
[05:56] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor,  want me to just priv msg u the script? its not that complex
[05:56] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: I'm also curious as to why you need a batch script on a linux server in the first place.....
[05:56] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | whytw0sean
[05:56] <Ben64> also, what are you trying to run
[05:57] <whytw0sean> Ben64,  My friend wants me to create this server for this game he plays.. runescape so i downloaded the sorc etc and in the files it included run server.bat and compile server.bat
[05:57] <Ben64> http://www.moparscape.org/smf/index.php?topic=367407.0
[05:57] <wylde> whytw0sean: then it's not meant for linux.
[05:57] <phanimahesh> !
[05:57] <phanimahesh> what all flags does the bot accept?
[05:58] <wylde> phanimahesh: /msg ubottu !bot
[05:58] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: please post a link to where you got the server software. There may be a linux version already (especially if it's open source)
[05:59] <whytw0sean> http://uppit.com/bnzejwom1oxp/EasyRSC.zip
[05:59] <whytw0sean> Says its suppose to run on Linux
[05:59] <whytw0sean> http://www.moparscape.org/smf/index.php?topic=517543.0
[05:59] <whytw0sean> there thats the right one sorry
[06:00] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: does the software have a website? Downloading off uppit-type sites is VERY dangerous unless you know *exactly* who uploaded it!
[06:00] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor,  i figured since it has screenshot and stuff it would work,  the link i just posted says what to do and it says its suppose to run on linux server.
[06:01] <Sidewinder> DarwinSurvivor, There's info on that game at winehq; not sure why he didn't check there first. :-(
[06:02] <whytw0sean> Sidewinder,  because i didnt really realize it.. like i said im new to Linux but want to learn, so the first place i come is right here
[06:02] <wylde> Technically it's not a native ubuntu application so not supported here anyway.
[06:02] <Sidewinder> NP
[06:02] <Ben64> its java
[06:02] <Ben64> don't even need wine
[06:02] <whytw0sean> yes its java based
[06:03] <whytw0sean> but the files i need to run are .bat
[06:03] <Ben64> no you don't
[06:03] <whytw0sean> It says to go to the direc where it is located, and type the cmd ant run client
[06:03] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: http://www.moparscape.org/smf/index.php/topic,367407.0.html
[06:04] <Ben64> ant isn't bat
[06:04] <whytw0sean> I know it isnt
[06:04] <whytw0sean> but thats what that website told me to do
[06:04] <Ben64> it says nothing about bat
[06:05] <DarwinSurvivor> !java | whytw0sean
[06:05] <pungi-man> type in terminal : sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[06:05] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: follow the java instructions for now
[06:06] <DarwinSurvivor> what pungi said :)
[06:06] <pungi-man> to install all the components for java and sudo apt-get eclipse to install the interface. Its a very good software!! you can use netbeans also!
[06:07] <pungi-man> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[06:08] <DarwinSurvivor> whytw0sean: after you have instlled Java, then go to http://www.moparscape.org/smf/index.php/topic,367407.0.html and do steps 4 and 6 (not 5)
[06:10] <md_5> I wouldnt use apt-get for eclipse or netbeans as it installs a ton of extra shit
[06:13] <AquaGirlLove> Hi.
[06:13] <AquaGirlLove> I am having trouble getting ELinks to work.
[06:14] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | AquaGirlLove
[06:15] <AquaGirlLove> I have a problem with ELinks not displaying in Lubuntu 12.04 in the lxterminal when I click on the icon in the menu list.
[06:15] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: the lxterminal icon or the elinks icon?
[06:16] <AquaGirlLove> The Elinks icon.
[06:16] <dr_willis> tried running elinks frim the shell?
[06:17] <AquaGirlLove> The lxterminal opens, but all I see is a cursor.
[06:17] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: open lxterminal and type in "elinks" (without quotes) and hit enter
[06:17] <AquaGirlLove> I can run the program from within the lxterminal.
[06:17] <AquaGirlLove> ...when I type out the command.
[06:18] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: ok, so it's just the launcher that doesn't work. Did you make then launcher, or did it come with elinks?
[06:18] <dr_willis> how about    lxterminal -e elinks
[06:18] <AquaGirlLove> I did not make the launcher.
[06:18] <dr_willis> i think lxterm does -e
[06:19] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: strange, I'm surprised a command-line browser would have an icon.
[06:19] <AquaGirlLove> lxterminal -e elinks opened a new terminal with elinks working.
[06:19] <dr_willis> could be some xterm vs lxterm differances
[06:19] <reason> hey is there a keyboard shortcut to close a crashed program thats preventing you going back to d-top etc. Like the alt-ctrl del in windows?
[06:19] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: can you type "ps x | grep elinks" into a terminal and tell us what shows up?
[06:19] <jagginess> reason, maybe ctl-shift-esc
[06:20] <DarwinSurvivor> !xkill | reason
[06:20] <dr_willis> check the elinks.desktop.file  see what its running
[06:20] <DarwinSurvivor> gah
[06:20] <reason> okay then whats the shortcut to get terminal up
[06:20] <DarwinSurvivor> reason: try using xkill to close the offending application
[06:20] <AquaGirlLove> I get this...  27204 pts/3    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto elinks
[06:20] <reason> so i can use the xkill
[06:20] <wylde> reason: ctrl+alt+t
[06:20] <reason> sweet
[06:20] <jagginess> reason, if you use gnome, you may be able to use a taskmanager
[06:20] <jagginess> (previously it was something like ctl-shift-esc)
[06:21] <DarwinSurvivor> reason: you don't need a terminal for xkill, just bring up the dash (with the launchers) and type it in, it's a GUI application
[06:21] <AquaGirlLove> ...and the elinks is in a red background with black text.
[06:21] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: ok, so it's not launching elinks in the background then
[06:22] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: that's normal, the "grep" part is a search feature that finds lines with "elinks" in it and hilights them
[06:23] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: please run "dpkg -L elinks" it should return 1 line
[06:23] <reason> well my problem before is the program was a full screen app and i couldent get any where had to use the computers power button lol. so thats why i asked. wish they had a taskmenu like windows that pops up with shortcuts
[06:23] <reason> that would be great
[06:23] <dr_willis> make a script file that runs  lxteerminal -e elinks   :-)
[06:23] <whytw0sean> DarwinSurvivor,  i got it now... i install java, i did sudo apt-get ant and now its working
[06:23] <DarwinSurvivor> reason: oh, a fullscreen app :( in that case, use CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a terminal, then type "killall the_name_of_your_application"
[06:23] <AquaGirlLove> I have multiple lines
[06:24] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: sorry, forgot a piece
[06:24] <reason> sweet i'll remember that
[06:24] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: please run "dpkg -L elinks | grep desktop" it should return 1 line
[06:24] <anon> I have an urgent request.
[06:24] <DarwinSurvivor> reason: which application is it? If it's crashing, there's probably a reason
[06:24] <AquaGirlLove> /usr/share/applications/elinks.desktop
[06:24] <reason> openttd
[06:24] <reason> transporttycoon clone
[06:24] <wylde> I still say pastebinit should be included as a default </ot>  :)
[06:25] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: please run "cat /usr/share/applications/elinks.desktop" and pastebin the output
[06:25] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | AquaGirlLove
[06:25] <anon> How can I find out if a certain image or movie was accessed and most important when?
[06:25] <Gallomimia> the installer encountered an unrecoverable error. a desktop session will now e run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again. |||| alright now what.
[06:25] <reason> worked fine i had changed it to fullscr was working then when i opened the game back up bam stuck in a full screen of black
[06:25] <reason> with a cursor
[06:25] <DarwinSurvivor> reason: is it crashing often, or is this a one-time problem?
[06:25] <Sidewinder> !reisub | reason
[06:26] <reason> first time it's happend
[06:26] <AquaGirlLove> http://paste.ubuntu.com/968469/
[06:26] <anon> How can I find out if a certain image or movie was accessed and most important when?
[06:26] <reason> whats !reisub
[06:26] <Sidewinder> ready, It's rarely a good idea to shut down *nix with the p[ower button. :-)
[06:26] <DarwinSurvivor> reason: alright. if it happens again, please come back so we can figure out what is causing it (in case it wasn't a random fluke)
[06:27] <reason> i'll try now
[06:27] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | anon
[06:27] <reason> nah one time thing just worked fine then
[06:27] <Sidewinder> oops, wrong nick, sorry; gettin' late.
[06:28] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: ok, that looks like it *should* work. Just to clarify, when you run it do you get *nothing* or a terminal with just a cursor, or a flash of something quickly (like it crashed)?
[06:28] <reason> i might need to hurry and learn more about linux and moding it. love to make an overwirtting taskmanager feature
[06:28] <AquaGirlLove> I get a terminal with a solid cursor that does not blink.
[06:29] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: and what happens if you try to type something into it?
[06:29] <AquaGirlLove> I cannot type in it.
[06:29] <AquaGirlLove> It just stays as is.
[06:29] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, maybe you toggle xon/xoff
[06:30] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, it happens when you do ctl-s, to undo, i think it's ctl-q or another..
[06:30] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: ok, please type everything that you see in the title-bar of the terminal window (something linke "lxterminal - elinks ...."
[06:30] <AquaGirlLove> LXTerminal
[06:30] <AquaGirlLove> That's all.
[06:31] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: what happens if you hit "Ctrl + c"?
[06:31] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, can you do "ctl-q", and see if u can type after that
[06:31] <AquaGirlLove> It still stays the same.
[06:31]  * jagginess has no idea who AquaGirlLove is responding to
[06:31] <AquaGirlLove> Ctrl - q doesn't work.
[06:32] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: did ctrl+c?
[06:32] <AquaGirlLove> Ctrl - c  does not work either.
[06:32] <AquaGirlLove> The terminal just hangs.
[06:32] <AquaGirlLove> ...like it is frozen.
[06:32] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, you using a custom kernel?
[06:32] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: ok, now try "ctrl + z"
[06:33] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: that *should* put elinks into the background and give you a usable terminal (then we'll know it's elinks crashing, not lxterminal)
[06:33] <AquaGirlLove> DarwinSurvivor: It is still frozen.
[06:33] <AquaGirlLove> jagginess: Custom kernel?
[06:33] <wylde> anon: ls -ltuh /path/to/directory might work.
[06:34] <AquaGirlLove> I recently upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04.
[06:34] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, does lxterm work do a bash shell?
[06:34] <jagginess> ,/to,/
[06:35] <AquaGirlLove> As far as I know, it does.
[06:35] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, can you succesfully start elinks manually from there?
[06:36] <AquaGirlLove> When I type out the command at the prompt, elinks runs.
[06:36] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, what is the full string of lxterm with elinks?
[06:37] <jagginess> (elinks -<parameters>?)
[06:37] <AquaGirlLove> I just type: elinks
[06:37] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, i mean the shortcut
[06:37] <AquaGirlLove> This is what was in the desktop file:  Exec=/usr/bin/elinks %u
[06:38] <DarwinSurvivor> jagginess: her .desktop file is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/968469/
[06:38] <DarwinSurvivor> or his, sorry, shouldn't assume!
[06:38] <AquaGirlLove> It's okay.
[06:39] <rony_> hello
[06:39] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: are you running lubuntu?
[06:39] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, Exec="/usr/bin/lxterminal -e elinks"  ?
[06:39] <AquaGirlLove> Yes.  Lubuntu 12.04
[06:39] <jagginess> or maybe Exec="/usr/bin/lxterminal -e /usr/bin/elinks"  ?
[06:41] <amysanaghan> e
[06:41] <amysanaghan> -e
[06:41] <DarwinSurvivor> jagginess: the .desktop file was supplied by the elinks package (found via dpkg -L) and has the "open with terminal" option selected
[06:42] <jagginess> well she's saying it's not working.. so i'm guessing something is wrong somewhere
[06:42] <DarwinSurvivor> jagginess: of course
[06:42] <amysanaghan> i am unable to open my back up on my SeaGate External hardrive
[06:43] <DarwinSurvivor> amysanaghan: that's most definitely a hardware problem
[06:43] <DarwinSurvivor> amysanaghan: is your question ubuntu related in some way?
[06:43] <amysanaghan> like everything has been accidently deleted you think?
[06:44] <Flux_> so I just installed ubuntu minimal, and installed mate-desktop with it. works great. but no audio! I tried compiling alsa myself, but apparently I'm a n00b. :P can anyone give me any advice?
[06:44] <DarwinSurvivor> amysanaghan: OH, sorry, I thought you were physically trying to remove the rear cover of the drive!
[06:44] <DarwinSurvivor> lol
[06:44] <amysanaghan> haha
[06:45] <amysanaghan> No - I'm new to Linux. I've tried the Crunchbang version, Puppy and Ununtu.
[06:45] <jagginess> amysanaghan, there's ununtu?
[06:45]  * jagginess thinks amysanaghan is a nun
[06:45] <Flux_> xD
[06:46] <amysanaghan> I don't know how I go about opening the drive to be able to view my saved files
[06:46] <foolsh> Flux_: 'sudo apt-get install pulseaudio' or 'sudo apt-get install esound' it's your choice really
[06:46] <wylde> must be a new derivative for convents :P
[06:46] <Flux_> uNunTu
[06:46] <DarwinSurvivor> amysanaghan: what operating system was used to create the backup?
[06:46] <jagginess> uNunToo?
[06:46] <amysanaghan> Well, I had a Dell Optiplex with Windows XP Professional Edition on it.
[06:47] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: with the "crashed" window still open, please open a new terminal and run "ps x | grep elinks" and tell me if you get a second line this time
[06:47] <AquaGirlLove> ok
[06:47] <Flux_> pulseaudio just shows up as a dummy device in volume control
[06:47] <Flux_> and doesnt actually play any sound
[06:48] <amysanaghan> Then my PC crashed and I used a Crunchbang Linux CD that IT guy gave me.  I was, at some point, able to view my saved files.
[06:48] <foolsh> Flux_: 'sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio' then 'sudo apt-get install esound' reboot and see
[06:48] <AquaGirlLove> 27477 ?        Sl     0:00 lxterminal -e -e /usr/bin/elinks
[06:48] <AquaGirlLove> 27589 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto elinks
[06:48] <jagginess> amysanaghan, would "that IT" guy happen to be Nick Burns from snl ?
[06:48] <Flux_> should I purse alsa too?
[06:48] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: AHAH, it's got the -e switch in there twice!!!
[06:49] <Flux_> purge, even
[06:49] <AquaGirlLove> How did that happen?
[06:49] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, it should only be one -e ..
[06:49] <foolsh> Flux_: idk maybe sure if you had any on there
[06:49] <amysanaghan> Ok.  Like I said, I'm new to Linux.  I'm loving it. But I'm new to it.
[06:50] <DarwinSurvivor> amysanaghan: Can I assume you've already checked all the cables, external power, etc for the drive?
[06:50] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, just replaced that Exec line and file a bug report..
[06:50] <amysanaghan> yes.
[06:50] <foolsh> Flux_: reboot is essential if any new modules were installed
[06:50] <amysanaghan> It appears when plugged in as a USB drive
[06:50] <AquaGirlLove> How do I do that?
[06:50] <Flux_> thanks, I'll give it a try :)
[06:51] <rabbi1> i installed few fonts, after restart my gnome fonts are screwed up.... none of the fonts are displayed properly except "boxes".... i tried reset the gnome config, but no luck - 10.04   any suggestion ? :(
[06:51] <jagginess> AquaGirlLove, I mean i dont have my ubuntu loaded, nor have i file a bug report, i'll let you do this if you wish
[06:51] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: if you change the exec line to include lxterminal explicitly, please also change "Terminal=true" to "Terminal=false" or it will try to launch the terminal inside a terminal :P
[06:51] <AquaGirlLove> Where would I do this, DarwinSurvivor?
[06:51] <amysanaghan> But when I open it, there is absolutely nothing - no file.
[06:51] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: just a sec, making a new .desktop file for you :D
[06:52] <amysanaghan> Unlike when I open the CD drive or the RAM drive, it shows something.
[06:52] <wylde> AquaGirlLove: 'ubuntu-bug elinks' will start the process and collect extra info
[06:52] <jagginess> amysanaghan, RAM drive?
[06:52] <jagginess> amysanaghan, RAM is your memory, RAM is not your harddrive.
[06:52] <nyuszika7h> Hi, why do I get always get zombie processes like this when starting Terminator?
[06:52] <nyuszika7h> 08:44:48 *kicklog | [05/05/12 05:47:01] Kicked by [blkcrwn!~chatzilla@theblackmatrix/grandmaster/blkcrwn] in [#theblackmatrix]: nyuszika7h
[06:52] <nyuszika7h> Err
[06:53] <nyuszika7h>  2307 nyuszika7  20   0     0     0     0 Z  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 │  ├─ /usr/bin/termin
[06:53] <Oprtx> hi all
[06:54] <zeal18> Hi all! I have problem with smbd. http://pastebin.com/9xdAftUX
[06:54] <_jon180_> in 12.04, flash is using a lot of CPU power in both chrome and firefox, i saw reports of this but is there an official bug report that is tracking a fix for this?
[06:54] <zeal18> It works only after restart service
[06:54] <Oprtx> ! help, when i insert headphones jack into laptop , sound comes from both speakers and headphones at same time, how to stop speaker sound? thanks using ubuntu 12.04
[06:54] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: to fix the .desktop file, please run "gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/elinks.desktop"
[06:54] <Guest29403>  /server Irc.anonops.pro
[06:55] <Shafan> hello, i'm new to linux, and want to try and learn PHP and SQL, and make some tests with them building website (personal only, not for publishing), should i install the desktop version or the server version of ubuntu? (sorry for the dumb question)
[06:55] <jagginess> zeal18, do you know what cups is ?
 yes
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | Shafan
[06:56] <AquaGirlLove> Okay.  Have it open.
[06:56] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: you should get a window that pops up asking for your password, the you should get a text editor
[06:56] <jagginess> zeal18, does http://localhost:631 work? if it does then maybe have cups load before samba
[06:56] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: ok good, now replace it with http://paste.ubuntu.com/968485/
[06:56] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: note that the "Exec" and "Terminal" lines are different
[06:56] <rabbi1> MAJOR HELP !! i installed few fonts, after restart my gnome fonts are screwed up.... none of the fonts are displayed properly except "boxes".... i tried reset the gnome config, but no luck - 10.04   any suggestion ? :(
[06:56] <Guest29403> very hard time logging out of x server to install an Nvidia driver
[06:56] <Oprtx> ! help. is there any driver for Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG , it disconnects after 5 minutes ...very anoying , thanks for the help
[06:57] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: then save and close it. You will then need to log out and back in again for it to take effect.
[06:57] <Guest29403> using cd +x command
 yes it works, how to fix loading queue?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Oprtx: what kind of wifi security u using?
[06:58] <AquaGirlLove> Okay.  Will do.
[06:58] <AquaGirlLove> brb
[06:58] <jagginess> zeal18, i never looked into it, i'm assuming you're using the latest ubuntu, so it'll have to be in the "upstart" method of things..
[06:58] <Flux_> it worked :D
[06:58] <Flux_> thanks!
[06:58] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje:  WPA2
[06:58] <Flux_> is there any way to change the volume limit? seems very quiet in comparison to on windows
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Oprtx: did you try if u have same problem on WEP?
[06:58] <jagginess> zeal18, you should also file a bug report
 thanks, I'll google upstart man
[06:59] <nastas> Flux_: did you try alsamixer?
[06:59] <AquaGirlLove> Back. :)
[06:59] <AquaGirlLove> It worked.
[07:00] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje:  i just confirm its WPA and WPA2
[07:00] <soreau> Oprtx: make sure you're using the latest released version of ubuntu and thus kernel, as the driver is included with the kernel
[07:00] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje:  how to change it to WEP ?
[07:00] <jagginess> !nvidia |hello
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Optrx:some cards make a weird bug on WPA, i would doublecheck WEP security
[07:00] <Flux_> everything is maxed out in alsa mixer. odd.
[07:00] <Oprtx> soreau:  it is 12,04 the latest version and i update it every day :(
[07:01] <stefg> Hi room! Does anyone know how/where the default window positio in unity is set? For some reason all new windows have their default opening position on the bottom right screen edge... which is quite inconvenient
[07:01] <foolsh> Shafan: for learning at home the desktop version will let you get familiar see here for how to install a SQL and web servers on ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/index.html
[07:01] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje: ok i will try to use WEP
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Optrx:http://192.168.1.1 and change wpa2 to wep
[07:01] <soreau> stefg: ccsm>Place Windows
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Oprtx: I would avoid WEP, it's not very secure at all.
[07:01]  * stefg looks
[07:01] <AquaGirlLove> DarwinSurvivor: It worked.  However, I get 2 icons on top of each other in the desktop pager of the lxpanel.
[07:02] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje:  thanks for the advice i will do so
[07:02] <soreau> Jordan_U: I think he's just asking him to try it for testing purposes
[07:02] <Oprtx> and confirm it to u
[07:02] <wylde> WEP = locking your front door with scotch tape ....
[07:02] <jagginess> !wep
[07:02] <soreau> wylde: yea ;)
[07:02] <jagginess> ^
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> wylde: its only for testing the wifi disconnects
[07:02] <nastas> Flux_: are you sure? try to navigate to the right with arrowkeys
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> wylde: and by the way, wpa2 is also unsafe
[07:03] <wylde> lotuspsychje: alrighty :) Just sayin'
[07:03] <Oprtx> ubottu:  is saying its not good :(
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:03] <Flux_> nastas, yeah I tried that xD
[07:03] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje:  but i will try it
[07:03] <Flux_> its not a problem per say. netbook volume just sucks.
[07:03] <soreau> lotuspsychje: if you choose a strong password and disable wps for your router, wpa(2) is fine
[07:03] <Flux_> with windows I was able to get a tiny bit more out of it
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Oprtx: As long as you make sure to change it back when you're done testing it's fine.
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> soreau:some pentest livecd can crack everything
[07:04] <stefg> soreau: Thanks! Window placement was set to "intelligent" .... I'd rather call this mode "stupid" ... :-)
[07:04] <Oprtx> Jordan_U:  thanks
[07:04] <soreau> lotuspsychje: I'd like to see that really. AFAIK, wpa(2) us pretty secure if setup properly
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Oprtx: You're welcome.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> soreau:im not sure if everyone would agree with that, but offtopic :p
[07:05] <Oprtx> does any body knows how to update kernal ? because i want to install latest driver for my wifi card, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[07:05] <soreau> stefg: heh
[07:05] <soreau> no problem
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: good to hear. Please file a bug report against elinks explaining exactly what happened (including that output with "... -e -e ..." and the changes you made to fix it
[07:05] <Gamoder> Hi everyone, I got the following problem: I want to extract single pictures from my webcam as .jpg using luvcview, but, when opening luvcview, I just get the following error message:
[07:05] <Oprtx> and friend, i am totalllly new to this linux thing
[07:05] <Gamoder> ERROR: Requested frame format MJPG is not available and no fallback format was found.
[07:05] <Gamoder>  Init v4L2 failed !! exit fatal
[07:05] <soreau> lotuspsychje: link me in pm, I'm curious now
[07:05] <AquaGirlLove> DarwinSurvivor: How do I do that?
[07:05] <Gamoder> The webcam does work in cheese, so I guess I just need some configuration/parameters/etc. for luvcview
[07:06] <jagginess> Oprtx, upgrade the distro? latest is like 3.xx
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> !bug | AquaGirlLove
[07:06] <Oprtx> jagginess:  how ??? tell me command
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: just type "ubuntu-bug elinks" in a terminal and it should start the process for you
[07:06] <Oprtx> jagginess:  i am using 12.04 ubuntu
[07:06] <jagginess> Oprtx, download the latest ubuntu and sing la la la
[07:07] <Oprtx> jagginess:  lalalal :)
[07:07] <Shafan> lotuspsychje, foolsh, Thank you both for your help
[07:07] <sulaiman> noob question, how can I launch a file explorer as admin from command line?
[07:07] <wylde> sulaiman: gksu nautilus
[07:07] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: noob question, why do you need to?
[07:07] <sulaiman> wylde, thanks, i will try
[07:07] <AquaGirlLove> Do I need to make a Launchpad account?
[07:08] <wylde> AquaGirlLove: if you're filing a bug I believe so yes.
[07:08] <stefg> sulaiman, wylde : should actually be 'gksudo'
[07:08] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, for example, I am in /var/www/ directory
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: yes, that way if they have any questions (like the ones we had for you), you will get notified. It makes the bugs MUCH easier to fix if they can communicate with the person that filed it
[07:08] <wylde> stefg: gksu and gksudo are the same AFAIK
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: is this for website work?
[07:09] <AquaGirlLove> Okay.  Will do.  Again, thank you very very much. :)
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: no problem
[07:09] <AquaGirlLove> :)
[07:09] <wylde> stefg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21033/what-is-the-difference-between-gksudo-and-gksu
[07:09] <AquaGirlLove> Bye. :)
[07:10] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to write a script to do the following: launch the screen command, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, etc.......after launching a few commands the screen detaches itself, how do i do this....
[07:10] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, yes, I am running a simple web stack on this machine, it would be convenient if I could open up a explorer from the directory I was in
[07:10] <stompbox>  /server Irc.anonops.pro
[07:11] <stefg> wylde: yes, because ubuntu made it work that way... noob friendliness.  In the good old days (tm) su inherited the complete root environment, while sudo just executed the command as root in user context.
[07:11] <kernelcruncher> is it possible to use ubuntuone like dropbox and have public url's
[07:11] <sulaiman> wylde, stefg: is it possible to send the current working directory as a parameter to nautilus, gksudo nautilus pwd didn't work
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: is it only one website you are running on the server?
[07:12] <wylde> sulaiman: gksudo nautilus /path/to/dir  a window will open asking for you password.
[07:12] <stefg> sulaiman: there is a nautilus extension which adds a "open as administrator" (freely translated fom german" right click menu entry
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: you should try not to use sudo-powered file managers, instead you should add yourself to the www group so that you can use your regular user privileges to edit the files
[07:13] <_jon180_> while using flash in chrome and firefox, my cpu usage is very high in 12.04, i see an unbuntu question about this but no bug report, is there a known solution?
[07:13] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, oh, I should do that.
[07:14] <Jordan_U> stefg: While "su" (without any username) would default to running a shell and "sudo" would default to running the command passed to it, gksu and gksudo both always ran only a command and never started a root shell (which wouldn't make much sense in a GUI context). gksu defaults to using sudo in Ubuntu so that they could be compatible with upstream .desktop files for GUI applications that ran as root.
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> _jon180_: flash is a closed-source binary-blob application to which ubuntu does not have the ability to edit, so fixing bugs in it is 100% Adobe's responsability
[07:14] <sulaiman> thanks for the help wylde, stefg, DarwinSurvivor
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: I would recommend against writing your website with root permissions, instead you should set up your permissions properly so you can edit the website as a normal user
[07:15] <szal> _jon180_: solution: don't use Flash.. (1) what DarwinSurvivor said, (2) Flash development for Linux has been canceled, there will only be security-related fixes in the future
[07:15] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, i am looking into adding my use to the www group
[07:15] <_jon180_> how else can i use pandora for example?
[07:15] <sulaiman> user*
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: "sudo usermod -a -G www your_username_here"
[07:15] <_jon180_> is there an alternative to flash?
[07:16] <stefg> !permissions | sulaiman
[07:16] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: you will need to log out, then back in again for the change to take effect
[07:17] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: then just make sure your /var/www directory is set to rwxrwxr-x (755) permissions (more info on the page supplied by stefg)
[07:17] <Jordan_U> szal: _jon180_: Google will stil be providing a flash plugin, it will just depend on the PPAPI, which is currently only supported by Chrome[ium].
[07:17] <_jon180_> i use chrome, how do i switch to that?
[07:17] <stefg> _jon180_: nothing that works well ... there's gnash , and there are firefox extensions like flash replacer . The problem with both is that you d/l the file before watching or can't seek in the video
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: that way anyone in the www group can edit the code. If you've already edited some code in there as root, you'll need to change the owner of those files. Let us know if you need help with that
[07:18] <_jon180_> this worked very well in 10.04, so is it that likely to be a bug with flash that only exists in ubuuntu 12.04?
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> stefg: for youtube there is also minitube
[07:19] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to write a script to do the following: launch the screen command, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, etc.......after launching a few commands the screen detaches itself, how do i do this....
[07:19] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, stefg thanks for the info, I will try this out in a bit
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> _jon180_: it's very hard to tell with flash. Most likely it's the newer version of flash (10.04 had an older version) that has the bug
[07:20]  * szal supposes that the usage of Flash will significantly decrease come the release of Windows 8
[07:20] <_jon180_> so it sounds like there is not much i can do
[07:21] <gua> do you have to register to attend UDS? since i'm getting an error when i try
[07:22] <DarwinSurvivor> _jon180_: unfortunately not. Go ahead and file a bug report anyways in case someone clever can come up with a work-around
[07:22] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: if you get an error, please post the error!
[07:22] <_jon180_> ok, thanks for the help
[07:23] <gua> on https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/ when i click on    "Register or sign in"    i get    "OpenID discovery error: Error fetching XRDS document: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt')"
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> szal: what does w8 use for flash then?
[07:25] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: looks like a server bug!
[07:25] <szal> lotuspsychje: W8 will rely heavily on HTML5
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> szal: for ubuntu there's gnash alternative i hear...
[07:25] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: you get it too? :(
[07:26] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: well, it does say you need to log in through launchpad first, so my guess is it will work after you do that and it simply isn't a very descriptive error message :P
[07:26] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: i had a feeling it was something like that
[07:26] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: i will try that, one moment
[07:26] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: so probably not a bug, just a *badly* returned error message!
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> szal: html5 is already being injected badly right
[07:27] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: user experience bug :P
[07:27] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: exactly
[07:27] <szal> lotuspsychje: Gnash is a crutch, not much more than an emergency drop-in
[07:27] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: my guess is they are fully aware of it, and that's why the put they very explicit warning above the button
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> szal:strange that these days adobe still rules(with all there security flaws)
[07:30] <stefg> lotuspsychje: flash is an example for de-facto standards, that even the creator can't get rid of.... adobe themselves are telling in their roadmap that tey want to deprecate flash. But there is still so much money being made with flash that you just can't cut the throat of the beast
[07:30] <DarwinSurvivor> lotuspsychje: you can thank flash games and video streaming for that (and artists that never should have been allowed to touch a corporate server)
[07:31] <DarwinSurvivor> anyway, we're starting to get offtopic here
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> makes me wondering if theres not already exploits for ubuntu flash
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> we can discuss precise flash security right
[07:31] <DarwinSurvivor> lotuspsychje: as it relates to ubuntu, of course
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> so the whole world is vunrable on flash, why is ubuntu safe of it?
[07:32] <DarwinSurvivor> there are a few exploits in flash that work in ubuntu, but none that I know of that give them access to anything other than other flash sites
[07:33] <B|tchX> !bitchx
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> xchat rules
[07:33] <DarwinSurvivor> basically, flash has VERY little protection keeping a flash applet from one site/tab from messing with another flash applet, but flash itself is fairly well sandboxed
[07:33] <richardlxc> is there any software in ubuntu ,which is like win7 explorer?
[07:33] <stefg> lotuspsychje: ubuntu isn't 100% safe... but the consequences of a vulnerability are dramatically lower than on the windows platform....
[07:33]  * B|tchX slaps lotuspsychje ^5
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> stefg: well thats a realistic answer
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> richardlxc:there is addon for firefox to simulate win explorer
[07:36] <DarwinSurvivor> richardlxc: windows explorer is actually 2 applications. it is a file manager and a desktop environment, of which are you referring?
[07:38] <richardlxc> lotuspsychje: thank you
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> richardlxc: i think its called user agent switcher
[07:39] <richardlxc> DarwinSurvivor: i want to see process state
[07:40] <stefg> richardlxc: gnome-system-monitor or (h)top :-)
[07:40] <richardlxc> stefg: like chrome process ,and we can see ip address
[07:40] <agronholm> hi, I'm having trouble getting the Ubuntu ISO to boot, at least as virtual media -- 10.04 boots fine, anything after that does not
[07:41] <agronholm> I get the message "Boot Failed. CD/DVD Rom"
[07:41] <agronholm> Lenovo ThinkServer TD200
[07:41] <stefg> richardlxc:  man ps
[07:41] <DarwinSurvivor> richardlxc: that is not explorer, that would be "process manager" in which case stefg has your answer
[07:41] <agronholm> any clues as to what I should do
[07:41] <agronholm> ?
[07:41] <airzonk> guys, is there any way to install ubuntu from a SD card in an android phone? the SD card is blank. I cannot run windows apps right now, other than firefox
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: which versions have you tried (the ones that failed)
[07:42] <richardlxc> DarwinSurvivor: just like netstat
[07:42] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: i tried with two browsers after logging into launchpad.net and i get the same error :(
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: also, did you make sure you grabbed the correct architecture (32 bit vs 64 bit)?
[07:42] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: every single one (for the amd64 arch)
[07:42] <agronholm> yes, I'm sure
[07:42] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to write a script to do the following: launch the screen command, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, etc.......after launching a few commands the screen detaches itself, how do i do this....
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: hmm, sorry, I don't know much about the site itself, if it's not working after logging in (as instructed), then there may be a bug. The only thing I can think of is making sure you have noscript/etc disabled first
[07:43] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: I've tried 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 and 12.04
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: and you are 100% certain your system is 64 bit?
[07:43] <agronholm> every one of those ends up with the same error message
[07:43] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: yeah in firefox i made sure to, but then i tried chromium and chromium has no addons
[07:44] <agronholm> yes.
[07:44] <agronholm> it's a xeon e5504 cpu
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: then there's nothing more I can do, perhaps contacting the UDS team will help resolve the problem
[07:45] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: the thing is, they all boot in "legacy" mode but then fail when trying to verify the CD
[07:46] <mongo> paranoidphreak: expect
[07:46] <agronholm> that is, if I choose to boot from the "legacy only" boot device
[07:46] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: please explain what you mean by "as virtual media" and "legacy mode"
[07:46] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: do you know what an IMM is?
[07:47] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: IMM has a few definitions :P
[07:47] <agronholm> integrated management module
[07:47] <agronholm> allows me to remote control the machine
[07:47] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: no, i'm not familiar with that one
[07:47] <paranoidphreak> mongo: expect????
[07:47] <mongo> agronholm: i'm betting the device name changed in the newer kernels, try to net boot
[07:47] <agronholm> mongo: what device name?
[07:47] <mongo> paranoidphreak: it is a scritping language for interactive terminal sessions
[07:48] <stefg> !info expect
[07:48] <mongo> agronholm: agronholm the root block device
[07:48] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: so I have the cd images on my local hard drive and the machine I'm trying to boot is physically elsewhere
[07:48] <paranoidphreak> mongo: oh k.........i'll look into that........thanks
[07:48] <agronholm> so I am mounting the images as virtual cdrom devices
[07:48] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: so it's like a remote virtual machine then
[07:48] <agronholm> that's how I installed the current OS
[07:49] <agronholm> except it's not a virtual machine
[07:49] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Have you checked the md5sum of the isos?
[07:49] <mongo> agronholm: yes but you have the bios device, which is remounted as the root device after the kernel bootstraps
[07:49] <sobersab1e> hi.
[07:49] <mongo> if the device name is not as it expects it will not boot
[07:49] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I just downloaded them, I doubt every one of themis botched
[07:49] <Jordan_U> agronholm: What error message do you get when you try to verify the CD?
[07:49] <xuserx> hello
[07:49] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: and the original 10.04 iso *does* boot?
[07:49] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: yes.
[07:50] <mongo> most of those type of virtual CD's looked like a CD device, but in more modern kernels they tend to look like block devices
[07:50] <xuserx> how can i install sun java in xubuntu 12.04?
[07:50] <agronholm> mongo, so I'm hosed then? no way to do a remote install?
[07:50] <sobersabre> hi again.
[07:50] <mongo> agronholm: pxe boot
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: mongo seems to be more familiar with your type of setup than I am, so try what he's suggesting
[07:50] <agronholm> mongo, I don't really know how to set that up
[07:51] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Or using the netboot iso image should also work (even without netbooting).
[07:51] <agronholm> what netboot iso image?
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> xuserx: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> xuserx: do you also need the browser plugin or just for a java application?
[07:51] <stefg> DarwinSurvivor, agronholm : I think casper changed after 10.04 to facilitate USB boots. that might explain the breakage of remote virtual drives
[07:51] <mongo> agronholm: if you can find what the new root device name is you could change it in grub
[07:51] <xuserx> java + browser plugin
[07:52] <stefg> !install | agronholm
[07:52] <agronholm> mongo, that would help if I could actually get grub to start
[07:52] <xuserx> sun java ,sun java-plugin
[07:52] <stefg> !automate
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> !java | xuserx
[07:52] <agronholm> but it fails even before the SAS controller initializes
[07:52] <mongo> stefg: ya, and system bios use to require you to set a usb device as a HD or a cd or a floppy
[07:52] <Jordan_U> agronholm: But it would be *really* helpfull to know the error message you get when you try to verify the CD, and I'm assuming that by "Verify the CD" you mean the "Check CD for Defects" boot option.
[07:52] <agronholm> jordan: yes
[07:52] <Jordan_U> !minimal | agronholm
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> xuserx: follow those instructions. stick to OpenJDK as the Oracle stuff has been causing problem lately (due to Oracle meddling)
[07:52] <agronholm> Jordan_U: alright alright
[07:52] <mongo> agronholm you are pre standard ipmi
[07:53] <agronholm> standard ipm?
[07:53] <mongo> agronholm: basiclly it is standarized on newer hardware
[07:54] <mongo> which doesn't help you much but should be a positive thing to look forward to in the future :)
[07:54] <agronholm> this machine was bought in 2010 :/
[07:54] <agronholm> and it was a new model then
[07:54] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Is there a reason you haven't stated the error message you see? If you don't recall and can't test again right now or similar please say so rather than simply ignoring the question.
[07:55] <mongo> the management plane is legacy though
[07:55] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I'm just booting in legacy mode now
[07:55] <agronholm> because I don't recall the exact message and it was localized anyway
[07:56] <mongo> agronholm: if you have a dhcp server on the network pxe is great, you can chain boot into ipxe and just give it a html url
[07:56] <mongo> http://ipxe.org/cmd/chain
[07:57] <agronholm> Jordan_U: scanning cd-rom...
[07:57] <mongo> I don't have it anywhere public yet but I have it set up at home and in the lab at work to net boot to a menu where I can choose install/rescue or live images for debian/ubuntu/fedora and it boots to a mirror
[07:57] <agronholm> checking cd-rom integrity...
[07:58] <kandinski> so I enabled mouseover "sloppy" focus using gnome-tweak-took, but I also get an unwanted behaviour
[07:58] <agronholm> now it stalled at manpages-dev_3.35-0.1ubuntu1_all.deb
[07:59] <agronholm> I'm seeing that it's doing repeated read attempts from the virtual cd
[07:59] <kandinski> the active focus window also comes on top after two seconds or so of acquiring focus
[07:59] <sobersabre> is there a way to get all my photos from picasaweb and google +  ?
[07:59] <kandinski> which preempts the purpose of having focus follows mouse IMO
[07:59] <kandinski> any idea of a fix?
[07:59] <sobersabre> (except downloading them one by one)
[07:59] <|MUSE|> the terminal in guake and yakuake behave differently than gnome-terminal, how do i get a consistent behaviour
[08:00] <sobersabre> |MUSE|: they are different applications....
[08:00] <whitman> So, anyone know a method of changing an nvidia card fan speed in 12.04 now that nvclock seems to seg fault all the time?
[08:00] <stefg> agronholm: if i were you i wouldn't waste any more time in trying to install by remote CD-ROM. Read the netinstall howto and use it. As a side effect you will have a completly updated system after install. All a netinst-image needs to do is getting the kernel an the initrd in memory, the rest is done over the net. No use in dealing with broken virtual drives
[08:01] <|MUSE|> sobersabre: no doupt, but it seem that gnome-terminal is eightbit enabled, and I cant seem to get gauke/yakuake into 8bit mode
[08:01] <sobersabre> stefg: unless that virtual drive is in a
[08:01] <sobersabre> LAN
[08:01] <mongo> agronholm: if you get pxe boot going it works for any machine on that ethernet segment
[08:01] <sobersabre> |MUSE|: 8-bit of unicode ?
[08:01] <UrB> sobersabre: google takeout?
[08:01] <agronholm> ok I'll try that
[08:01] <agronholm> thanks for the tip
[08:01] <sobersabre> UrB: takeout ?
[08:01] <sobersabre> what is that ?
[08:02] <UrB> service to download all your data in google services
[08:02] <UrB> haven't tried it in practice, but I'd imagine that does what you were after earlier
[08:03] <mongo> I find it funny that launchpad still has a bias twards i386 for builds
[08:03] <UrB> https://www.google.com/takeout/
[08:03] <|MUSE|> sobersabre: sorry I have got my problems mixed up, I actually cant get an audible bell from the dropdown terms
[08:03] <UrB> you can choose only picasa there
[08:03] <mongo> isn't it close to 50:50 these days for the install base?
[08:04] <sobersabre> UrB: how about g+ ?
[08:05] <Zeising> What are the logical next step in debugging when nfs mounts get uid/gid 4294967294 and the idmapper is running? I'm running out of ideas on what can cause this. THis is nfs v4 from a solaris server to a ubuntu 12.04 client, using autofs.
[08:05] <sobersabre> UrB:  BTW, thanks for reminding me aboud DLF :)
[08:05] <mardraum> Zeising: do you have the users and groups created on both sides
[08:06] <mongo> Zeising: you can cheat and specify vers=3 as a mount option
[08:06] <mardraum> is the idmap service, whatever it is called, running on the solaris side?
[08:06] <sobersabre> Zeising: is it possible you're using some active directory integration tool (centrifydc) ?
[08:06] <mongo> Zeising: are you running ldap or NIS?
[08:06] <UrB> sobersabre: I think in context of pictures G+ == Picasa
[08:07] <UrB> albums created by G+ are there just like others
[08:07] <UrB> could be wrong too
[08:07] <sobersabre> UrB: as far as I know: >>> G+ [08:07] <sobersabre> UrB: as far as I know: >>> False
[08:07] <sobersabre> :)
[08:07] <UrB> hehe
[08:07] <sobersabre> sorry fro mixing js and python :)
[08:07] <UrB> but, that should help you a bit
[08:07] <sobersabre> indeed.
[08:08] <sobersabre> Thanks, gtg
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> mongo: installing 64bit OS on 32bit hardware won't work, installing 32bit OS on 64bit hardware will just limit your ram and make stuff SLIGHTLY less efficient
[08:08] <mongo> Zeising: also if you are on sol11 ignore anything that isn't on oracles site, they change the idmap config massivlly in the last release
[08:08] <Zeising> mongo: mardraum sobersabre: Since it did work before the upgrade to 12.04 (from 10.04) I assume so. Yes, I can run vers3, but it should work with 4 imo. and no ldap involved, just "plain" nis.
[08:08] <Zeising> mongo: it's the last "free" solaris
[08:09] <Zeising> I have to check that the portmapper there is running. That I haven't thought of yet.
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> mongo: also, Skype and Flash tend to work better/easier on 32bit (though I haven't had an issue with flash in over a year)
[08:09] <anon> Is there any log file or way to find out what directories a user accessed in the last 120 minutes?
[08:09] <mongo> Zeising: linux really doesn't to nfs v4 very well
[08:09] <stefg> Zeising: I'd blame autofs first (did lots of wierd things to me) and try a manual mount for debugging purposes.... the next steps . i guess, would involve strace
[08:09]  * nikolja dobar dan
[08:09] <mongo> DarwinSurvivor: it is just frustrating, i'm waiting to see if this fork of libvirt builds ;) not very useful on 32bit
[08:09] <Zeising> stefg: manual mounting didn't help
[08:10] <|MUSE|> does anyone know how to set guake to use audible bells, or just what file handles the settings in the terminal it uses?
[08:10] <Zeising> mongo: what version does 10.04 use by default?
[08:10] <mongo> Zeising: if you don't need ACL's which being on NIS you dont' just use version 3
[08:10] <Zeising> mongo: because that's what I can compare with :)
[08:11] <stefg> Zeising: and as a hint : try #ubuntu-server as well :-)
[08:11] <action09> hi , I'm not sure to understand, i've a 10.04 server, to upgrade to 12.04, it's preferrable to wait July month ? cf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades  : " until the first point release, due in July"
[08:11] <agronholm> why?
[08:12] <kokyu> hey. how do I check what package the /path/to/file belongs to ?
[08:12] <agronholm> dpkg -S
[08:12] <mongo> Zeising: funny enough I can't find a 10.04 host to test heh, most people have upgraded
[08:12] <Zeising> action09: it's because then someone else has ironed out the bugs for you. FOr critical infrastructure it's said to never upgrade to a .0 release, because they tend to be more buggy...
[08:12] <mongo> in my org
[08:12] <kokyu> ah, thanks, agronholm :)
[08:12] <Zeising> mongo: I'm preparing a move from 10.04 to 12.04
[08:12] <action09> Zeising ok it's what i understand :) thx  :)
[08:12] <Zeising> mongo: this is (hopefully) the last issue
[08:12] <tsimpson> action09: the upgrade process is getting it's first real-life use, it's likely there will be some bugs there, and the extra month allows them to be fixed for all those people that *need* a stable upgrade process
[08:13] <agronholm> I'm also upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04
[08:13] <stefg> action09: Don't bet the farm on the upgrade process going smoothly .... would be the first time in history that an ubuntu LTS-to-LTS upgrade actually works :\
[08:13] <agronholm> but I want to do a clean install, I don't think do-release-upgrade would work for me
[08:13] <Flux_> anyone know where I can find a ubuntu style theme for MATE?
[08:13] <mongo> kokyu: fgrep /path/to/file /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list
[08:13] <action09> stefg lol including Unity stuff ^^
[08:14] <mongo> Zeising: I would just make sure to do vers=3 until you migrate to krb for unix auth
[08:14] <Zeising> stefg: I actually got LTS->LTS to work, baring some kinks. But it's faster to just reinstall, especially if you have all confs centrally located :)
[08:14] <anon> Why can I not use find /path -name '/' -amin -120 to find all directories that were accessed in the last 120 minutes?
[08:14] <mongo> nfs4 nis support is minimal
[08:14] <Zeising> mongo: that krb stuff might be interesting, since we have krb for authentication and nis for authorization.
[08:15] <mongo> anon: I think relatime is now the default
[08:15] <anon> mongo, what do you mean?
[08:15] <action09> tsimpson ok as i understand i'll not need to modify "/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts" , I'll be notified in July auto-magically ?
[08:15] <mongo> anon: atime is eats up a lot of iops, now the kernel only updates the atime if it is older than the mtime
[08:15] <Zeising> mongo: it would still be interesting to see which version is the default on 10.04. How can I chech that, just runing mount does not say anything about nfs options, as opposed to 12.04 where you can specify vers=[3,4]
[08:16] <anon> mongo, then how could I find all files and dirs that were accessed during the last 120 mins?
[08:16] <mongo> Zeising: I can't remember :)
[08:16] <tsimpson> action09: yes, you should be automatically notified when the upgrade is available
[08:16] <Zeising> mongo: damn :)
[08:16] <mongo> anon: you could use the "atime" option in mounts
[08:16] <kostasm> agronholm: I did an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and I lost X due to my nvidia. Next, I switched to command line and did do-release-update+upgrade to 12.04.
[08:17] <agronholm> that happened to me (with nvidia) too
[08:17] <anon> mongo, I need to find who accessed files this morning. I left my computer unprotected (without screensaver).
[08:17] <action09> tsimpson stefg Zeising  thanks for your answers   ^^  !!
[08:17] <action09> anon aie :(
[08:17] <kostasm> agronholm: ... still loosing my X. Then fixed my nvidia drivers and I am fine. No other problems with upgrade.
[08:18] <anon> mongo, Specifically I need to find out what directories were opened. HOw can I accomplish that?
[08:18] <Zeising> I have to check on the idmapper i solaris (nfsmapid it's called here), and see if that's the culprit. It has to wait untill I have physical access to that box though. I don't want to kill it and not being able to bring it up fast :)
[08:18] <mongo> anon: well if you left it unlocked it would be your account
[08:18] <anon> mongo, yes but what time?
[08:18] <mongo> anon: like I said, by defaut they dont' track that anymore
[08:18] <action09> anon my co-workers made a speciality on this kind of activity... guest, accounts, hacks, teensy devices, usb, firewire, bluetooth..  It's total war    :/
[08:18] <mongo> if the modify time is older than the access time they don't update access time anymore
[08:19] <mongo> anon: make ctl-alt-L a normal step of standing up then :)
[08:20] <shredding> hey folks
[08:21] <shredding> is there a good alternative for jDownloader?
[08:21] <anon> mongo, my screensaver always starts automatically after 2 minutes but I did the upgrade to 12.04 last night and this morning the screen was unlocked. I had locked it when I went to bed. Some people were in the room. I want to find out if they accessed the file system.
[08:21] <shredding> The unity integration does not work and I have to start via command line and there are some other flaws.
[08:21] <anon> Is there any log file that shows when was the first user activity this morning?
[08:21] <mongo> nope
[08:22] <tsar> hey guys
[08:22] <mongo> if they are smart they would clear the logs anyway
[08:23] <anon> mongo, thy are not smart at all. Normal linux users that only do surfing, email, checking but they know how to start nautilus.
[08:23] <tsar> i have a problem in ubuntu 12.04 and i need your help
[08:23] <anon> Can I use stat on a directory?
[08:24] <shredding> anon: did you check var/log/wtmp?
[08:24] <Zeising> mongo: I don't think nfsv4 is the problem though, because it works fine from a debian machine...
[08:24] <mongo> anon: atime is one of the most wasteful activities unix ever did, they are not tracking it on purpose anymore
[08:24] <anon> shredding, no, what info is usually in that file?
[08:25] <hampsterblade> I have 2 monitors set in twinview.  I have a program I want to make sure opens on DFP-0,  is there a command I can add to a shortcut to make this happ=en?
[08:25] <shredding> login tries and last logins
[08:25] <mongo> Zeising: are you sure you are not being mapped to nobody on the solaris side?
[08:25] <stefg> !ask | tsar
[08:25] <intore> hi, am configuring pam_mount to mount home directories on the client from the server samba-ldap. I fear to make mistakes. Someone knows this subject and could fllow me please?
[08:25] <mongo> shredding: he left the screen unlocked, there is not an auth attempt on an unsecured fb
[08:26] <Zeising> mongo: not 100%, but it works on 10.04, it works on debian squeeze...
[08:26] <xfvrpm> bonjour
[08:26] <tsar> when i tried to open ubuntu with cinnamon interface it doesnt work , all what i see is ubuntu 10.10 interface
[08:26] <anon> shredding, only unreadable junk in that file
[08:26] <mongo> Zeising: try it on 12.04 with vers=3
[08:26] <Zeising> that works
[08:26] <shredding> mongo: ok i did not know that
[08:26] <shredding> Had just read the last lines and added my 2 cent
[08:26] <Zeising> mongo: But it's strange how v4 works on some machines, and not on some.
[08:26] <ghabit> hello. Is Inotify enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[08:26] <tsimpson> anon: the command "last" is used to read wtmp
[08:26] <stefg> intore: i'm not able to answer your question, but i might state that #ubuntu-server is severely underused
[08:27] <Zeising> mongo: unless I have to enable something server-side for each client.
[08:27] <mongo> Zeising: they probably are broken v4, and not passing auth
[08:27] <mongo> Zeising: I think debian doesn't do acl
[08:27] <shredding> anon: you can access it with the lastlog command, but as mongo said, it's not of interested here
[08:27] <Zeising> can I kill acl and still use v4 with some mount option?
[08:27] <tsar> stefg r u seen my question
[08:28] <intore> stefg, server is debian squeeze, am configuring ubuntu clients. do you think will be ok that channel?
[08:28] <mongo> Zeising: if you kill acl and are using nis you may as well just use v3
[08:28] <Zeising> mongo: ok..
[08:28] <fahmyboy> Any Jedi Masters available to answer a question
[08:29] <mongo> Zeising: ldap/krb5 is highly recomended and works well though
[08:30] <Zeising> mongo: I don't want to switch to ldap without some serious preparation. It would be nice, but that's a project on itself :)
[08:30] <stefg> intore: you'll find out :-) The reason i suggest #ubuntu server is that i feel that more complex and server related discussions should go there.  ATM #ubuntu-server is pretty idle
[08:31] <Zeising> mongo: the little + after the permissions in ls -la indicates extended acls, right?
[08:31] <intore> stefg, ok thanks
[08:31] <fahmyboy> anyone know why sound quality is so bad in skype for ubuntu?
[08:32] <ghabit> fahmyboy, it's because my logitech c910 cam gives so bad quality. :) Welcome to linux world.
[08:32] <agronholm> crap, PXE boot isn't working
[08:32] <agronholm> it's not even TRYING to get a dhcp lease
[08:33] <tsar> anyone can solve my problem
[08:33] <stefg> tsar: so you are on ubuntu 10.10 and installed cinnamon, right?
[08:33] <agronholm> tsar, you haven't described it yet, how could we solve it?
[08:33] <agronholm> ah, nvm
[08:34] <mongo> Zeising: yes
[08:34] <Zeising> ok
[08:34] <fahmyboy> but the same hardware was fine for windows
[08:34] <tsar> stefg in ubuntu 12.04
[08:34] <agronholm> "Boot Failed. PXE Network"
[08:34] <Zeising> mongo: because 10.04 has that one. Seems someone broke something along the way...
[08:34] <agronholm> what could I be doing wrong?
[08:34] <fahmyboy> is it that the drivers are bad
[08:34] <agronholm> I get this right off the bat when I hit enter
[08:35] <stefg> tsar: then you probaly have not chosen the right session type at the login screen
[08:35] <tsar> stefg and i tried another interfaces its same thing
[08:35] <tsar> stefg how ?
[08:37]  * stefg is trying to find lightdm docu
[08:37] <agronholm> this is hopeless
[08:38] <klacker> whats hopeless
[08:38] <agronholm> I'm trying to get ubuntu 12.04 installed
[08:38] <agronholm> but nothing works
[08:38] <agronholm> installed remotely that is
[08:38] <scarleo> agronholm, If nothing works you need to start by checking your hardware
[08:38] <agronholm> this goddamn server isn't even TRYING to PXE boot...just says it "fails" right off the bat
[08:39] <agronholm> and how would I do that?
[08:39] <scarleo> agronholm, It's a rewuirement to have working hardware to be able to install
[08:39] <scarleo> requirement*
[08:39] <agronholm> I'm well aware of that
[08:39] <agronholm> I already have ubuntu 10.04 installed and working
[08:39] <agronholm> not a single problem
[08:40] <agronholm> been running for a few years now
[08:40] <scarleo> agronholm, Ok, so something works then, right?
[08:40] <fl1bbl3> why are you trying to PXE boot?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Like I said earlier, using the minimal (aka netboot) iso (as a normal CD, no PXE or other setup required) will probably solve the problem you're having (though I'm still waiting on that error message to confirm that the problem you're having is what I think it is).
[08:40] <hampsterblade> how can I control which monitor a program is launched on in twinview.
[08:40] <agronholm> Jordan_U: you must have missed it
[08:40] <agronholm> I did tell you
[08:41] <Zeising> mongo: next question... How do I tell it to use nfs v3 when autofs gets stuff from a nis map?
[08:41] <agronholm> fl1bbl3: I'm trying to PXE boot because installing over virtual cdrom isn't working
[08:41] <agronholm> I'll see if the netboot iso runs
[08:42] <Jordan_U> agronholm: You said "now it stalled at manpages-dev_3.35-0.1ubuntu1_all.deb" does that mean it froze? What happened next? Did you ever actually see an error message?
[08:42] <nicl> Hey all. If I want to remove a program that I installed manually (not using a package manager), to uninstall it, there is no mechanism right? I just delete the files ?
[08:43] <nicl> it's emacs 24 - seems to have broken after upgrading to newest ubuntu, so was just going to re-install
[08:43] <agronholm> Jordan_U: it claimed there was an integrity error
[08:43] <agronholm> and stopped there
[08:43] <agronholm> but I verified the sha1sum of the image and it matches
[08:44] <maca> Someone use Guarddog, a firewall software??
[08:44] <Jordan_U> nicl: You should avoid installing programs outside the package manager. If it was a normal source tree then you should be able to cd to the directory containing the source and "make uninstall" or "sudo make uninstall" (depending on whether you originally ran "make install" or "sudo make install").
[08:45] <stefg> nicl: right... if you used configure/make/make install you might be able to use 'make uninstall' in some cases
[08:45] <nicl> Jordan_U: yep, I realise that is generally true. But some programs aren't available in an up to date form via a package manager. Thanks  - I will try make uninstall!
[08:45] <agronholm> Jordan_U: does that give you the information you needed or do you need more?
[08:46] <|MUSE|> does anyone know how to set guake to use audible bells, or just what file handles the settings in the terminal it uses? Or if you can use another terminal emulator?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Were other files verified as good before that? Normally I would attribute such an error to a faulty CDROM drive, though that doesn't quite make sense in this instance obviously.
[08:46] <agronholm> I could've sworn I typed the actual message here but I guess that never happened
[08:46] <agronholm> Jordan_U: yes, several other files were verified
[08:46] <agronholm> at least it passed by those files
[08:46] <share> can you read disqus comments? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/bbc-feature-ubuntu/
[08:47] <share> ?
[08:47] <nicl> stefg: thanks btw. Seems to have worked :)
[08:48] <stefg> nicl: and next time you're going to use /at least) checkinstall ....
[08:48] <stefg> !info checkinstall
[08:48] <carpediembaby> hi, i was trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but the setup keeps crashing at the timezone selection screen.. are their any known solutions?
[08:49] <Jordan_U> agronholm: That means that the kernel could actually access the "Drive", but it still had read errors / corruption. That's very odd. The minimal iso will probably still work, by virtue of there being very few files and all of them loaded through BIOS calls (which should handle the virtual CDROM drive properly) but it still doesn't quite make sense to me how this could be happening.
[08:49] <agronholm> I'm attempting to boot that mini.iso now
[08:50] <agronholm> Jordan_U: no dice
[08:50] <agronholm> Boot Failed. CD/DVD Rom
[08:50] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Can you try doing an md5sum check of the Virtual CD while booted from your existing Ubuntu 10.04 system?
[08:50] <nicl> stefg: just had a look online, and looks like a nice way to track files associated with a program
[08:50] <nicl> stefg: thanks
[08:51] <agronholm> Jordan_U: you must understand that this error message appears *before* even the 3rd party device ROMs have initialized
[08:51] <agronholm> so it hasn't even started to load the boot loader
[08:51] <agronholm> I have no idea what it's doing there
[08:52] <agronholm> but I can even boot the windows xp install cd successfully
[08:52] <powergiant> Hey guys. After putting a ATI readon graphics card in my computer, ubuntu won't detect the onboard soundcard. In alsamixer I only have "s/pdif", and when using "aplay -l | grep card", only the hdmi output shows up.- Any ideas ?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> agronholm: I understand that that's what's happening with the most recent error, and it is indeed baffling. It leads me to suspect more strongly that this is a bug in your hardware/firmware/configuration somehow even though it does appear in some ways to be specific to certain Ubuntu versions.
[08:54] <agronholm> could it be that it's trying to load some EFI boot file from the CD?
[08:54] <agronholm> I'm grasping at straws here...
[08:54] <hbccbh1> hi everyone
[08:54] <Jordan_U> agronholm: It could indeed, newer versions of Ubuntu do contain a [U]EFI bootloader.
[08:54] <hbccbh1> I want to install ubuntu 11.10 via a usb stick
[08:54] <hbccbh1> but when I boot it up
[08:55] <hbccbh1> it showed me that: initramfs unpacking failed XZ-compressed data is corrupted
[08:55] <agronholm> Jordan_U: if that's true, then I couldn't even install it from a real cd
[08:55] <hbccbh1> any suggestions?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> agronholm: That wouldn't quite explain the "booting but some files seem corrupted" symptom, but could explain the "Not even getting to the bootloader" ones. Thankfully there are iso images without any [U]EFI loaders for dealing with buggy firmware.
[08:56] <powergiant> hbccbh1, Redo the usb. It sounds like there something wrong with the disk image on the usb.
[08:56] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I haven't found them yet
[08:56] <hbccbh1> powergiant: I have try serval times
[08:56] <hbccbh1> the same with fedora, archlinux xubuntu's image
[08:57] <powergiant> hbccbh1, Have you tried an different usb ?
[08:57] <hbccbh1> yes, I have tried liveCD too :(
[08:58] <hbccbh1> powergiant: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=138668 my situations like it
[08:58] <agronholm> I suspect the cd-rom read error is related to the legacy mode, since I've never used it before
[08:58] <Jordan_U> agronholm: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ anything containing "+mac".
[08:59] <powergiant> hbccbh1, Well then I don't know. Can anything boot on the computer?
[08:59] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I don't see server images there
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> agronholm: could instal minimal
[09:00] <agronholm> I can try booting from such an image to see if it works
[09:00] <agronholm> it would at least validate the EFI theory
[09:01] <agronholm> ahhh
[09:01] <agronholm> found the server image
[09:02] <agronholm> it was in a different location
[09:02] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Out of curiosity, where?
[09:02] <agronholm> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current
[09:03] <agronholm> precise-server-amd64+mac.iso
[09:03] <ilija> i need help about my lubuntu i ask there because in lubuntu chanel i nobody
[09:03] <ilija> my problme is
[09:03] <ilija> Ssession: warning: unable to write to /tmp: X session may exit with an errpr"
[09:04] <hbccbh> powergiant: sorry for losing connection
[09:05] <gvo> ilija: ls -ld /tmp
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> ilija: http://linuxeducacional.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=312
[09:07] <ilija> that message appears on login i i cannot login, then i use alt+ctrl+f2 and login i enter update-alternatives --config x-session-manager i then i use ctrl+alt+f7 an then login but there is messege from last post
[09:07] <ilija> drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 2012-05-05 11:06 /tmp
[09:07] <ilija> that si output of ls -ln /tmp
[09:07] <ilija> i i cannot start google-chrome
[09:07] <ilija> or any other browser
[09:07] <gvo> ilija: see ActionParsnip's link
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ilija: try the commands in the link I gave. Also run:  sudo apt-get clean
[09:08] <ilija> gvo: i said i cannot acces internet
[09:09] <gvo> OK IRC is working though?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ilija: how are you irc-ing?
 you can use Firefox or Lynx
[09:10] <ilija> for apt-get clean is no output i just enter my pass i nothing is hapening
[09:10] <ilija> is that normal
[09:10] <Jordan_U> agronholm: I need to get some sleep, but I'm curious about this so if you don't mind please keep me up do date on what you discover.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> ilija: yes, in Lnux, no news is good news.
[09:10] <agronholm> Jordan_U: sure
[09:10] <agronholm> about to boot from the +mac iso
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> ilija: you don't get an 'ok' after every command, its redundant
[09:10] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Thanks.
[09:11] <ilija> ok and what now
[09:11] <ilija> can i now try to restart my pc i try login
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> ilija: sudo touch /var/log/kern.log; sudo touch /var/log/syslog
[09:12] <carpediembaby> is this a good channel for asking questions about 12.04 ? or should i go to ubuntu+1
[09:12] <agronholm> ubuntu+1 is for the unreleased version of ubuntu
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: precise is supported here now, as it is released
[09:13] <agronholm> gah, I discovered why PXE boot wasn't working
[09:13] <agronholm> it needs to be enabled separately for each NIC
[09:13] <liu> why
[09:13] <ilija> ActionParsnip: i trier yout 2 commands i output is nothing
[09:14] <ilija> is that ok
[09:14] <carpediembaby> ok. so i cannot install 12.04 using the iso i downloaded. it crashes at the timezone selection screen and there seems to be no recovery from that. i looked on the internet and someone suggested a text based installer (from a source i don't know about) but i wanted to ask for a better solution first
[09:15] <agronholm> Jordan_U: successfully booted from the precise+mac iso
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ilija: yes, AGAIN, no news is good news, you don't get an OK after each command, its redundant
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ilija: unless you get an output, assume the command succeeded
[09:15] <foolsh> carpediembaby: Personally I always use the alternate installer It just fells fast to me
 waiting is the best solution. Ubuntu 12.04 is not ready yet
[09:15] <carpediembaby> i had previously updated to 12.04 beta on a working 11.10 install but it didn't quite work.. so now i'm trying a new install
 there is so many bugs
[09:16] <ilija> ok thank you
[09:16] <casper001> i found one bug
[09:16] <carpediembaby> zeal18: i feel the same way. though why release it if its not?
[09:16] <ilija> i am going to try restart and i will come again to say results
[09:17] <foolsh> zeal18: some has to test it first
[09:17] <foolsh> someone*
 it's shedule
[09:17] <carpediembaby> foolsh: how do i use the alternate installer?
[09:18] <zeal18> I think, Ubuntu mast release when it ready to release but not at April and October
[09:18] <foolsh> carpediembaby: its all text menu driven pretty self explanatory
[09:19] <carpediembaby> foolsh: not for the basics! if the installer doesn't work, that's really sad..
[09:19] <ilija> hy guys i am here again i i have to say thank you my problem i solver
[09:19] <ilija> thank you very much
[09:20] <ilija> thanks for ActionParsnip
[09:20] <foolsh> carpediembaby: only hang ups are done auto detect thekeyboard if you use a US version and do some research about partitioning your harddrive for linux and you'll do fine.
[09:20] <carpediembaby> foolsh: i meant how do i get the text based installer ? i boot using the usb and it gives me options to either start from the disk or start install
[09:20] <ilija> and gvo
[09:20] <ilija> and others
 it's really sad that local-settings-manager crashes at changing system language
[09:21] <foolsh> carpediembaby: ohh its a separate download
[09:21] <carpediembaby> i think i should really just download 11.04
 you cat choise alternative dovnload links on ubuntu.com
[09:21] <zeal18> *can
[09:22] <foolsh> carpediembaby: 11.04 is my personal favourite I would stuck with that
[09:22] <zeal18> sorry for my grammar((
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: Natty is EOL in October (just an FYI)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: if you want a text installer, use the alternate ISO
[09:25] <agronholm> Jordan_U: update -- even though I could boot, the integrity check stalled again and eventually failed
[09:25] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: even 11.04?! :/ that should be 5 year support.. no?
[09:25] <agronholm> only LTS releases get 5 years of support
[09:25] <agronholm> interims get what, 2 years?
[09:25] <casper001> or 3 years?
[09:26] <agronholm> maybe 3
[09:26] <linuxius> hi! how can I change the font size in Evolution (calendar)? When I print I can hardly see the appointments...
[09:27] <d0gmaz> how can i see wich video driver im using on 12.04lts?
[09:27] <agronholm> ActionParsnip: there's no way a distro released just last year would expire this October
[09:27] <agronholm> right?
[09:27] <mi3> agronholm, wrong, ubuntu 11.04 will expire this october
[09:27] <bastidrazor> d0gmaz: lspci -v  under your card listing look for kernel module:
[09:28] <Ben64> Natty = 11.04 = 2011/04 = last year
[09:28] <bastidrazor> d0gmaz: or driver in use
[09:28] <mi3> normal releases receive updates upto 18 months, agronholm
[09:28] <agronholm> my bad then
[09:28] <mi3> np
[09:28] <d0gmaz> bastidrazor: thxx
[09:28] <casper001> who is still using 9.04 lts?
[09:29] <mi3> casper001, 9.04 is not an LTS version
[09:29] <casper001> lol
[09:29] <bastidrazor> d0gmaz: you're welcome.
[09:29] <casper001> so, the first one lts version is 10.04?
[09:29] <blade> hi ubuntu
[09:29] <Ben64> 8.04 was lts
[09:29] <casper001> s/one//
[09:29] <d0gmaz> bastidrazor: i use the opensource radeon driver, wich has vertical sync on can i turn it off?
[09:29] <blade> hi everyone
[09:30] <mi3> !crunchbang
[09:30] <Ben64> 6.06 was lts too
[09:31] <blade> can anyone tell how to be part of the ubuntu
[09:31] <carpediembaby> are xubuntu and kubuntu as well supported as ubuntu?
[09:31] <blade> how can i officially join ubuntu
[09:31] <mi3> blade, there is actually no way to join ubuntu, since the os is free
[09:32] <agronholm> blade, what does that even mean?
[09:32] <blade> sorry
[09:32] <blade> i mean
[09:32] <glosoli> blade: use it spread it
[09:32] <blade> like joinning Ubuntu officially by submitting bugs
[09:32] <blade> and all
[09:32] <blade> where can i do that
[09:32] <glosoli> blade: you just need Launchpad account and Ubuntu
[09:32] <glosoli> :)
[09:32] <blade> what is launchpad
[09:33] <glosoli> !bug blade
[09:33] <glosoli> hmm there commands not working here
[09:33] <glosoli> ;D
[09:33] <blade> ok
[09:33] <mi3> blade, once you use ubuntu, you are a part of its community, now, using launchpad is a different thing ok
[09:33] <glosoli> blade: you can read more about it in launchpad dot net
[09:33] <blade> cool
[09:34] <Ben64> !bug | blade, glosoli
[09:34] <mi3> blade, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchpad_%28website%29
[09:34] <glosoli> blade: check you ubottu msg it's all you need
[09:34] <glosoli> check out"
[09:35] <blade> coool
[09:35] <mi3> hmm
[09:35] <mi3> maybe someone has not introduced you to ubuntu, let me do that, blade
[09:35] <mi3> !
[09:35] <alankila> launchpad is one of the more frustrating websites in that it's always down when I try to use it. Which is usually after a release and I look for some bug descriptions, or might even want to report a bug
[09:36] <blade> so i wonder what is Bug Squad for
[09:36] <alankila> sometimes it says something funny like "launchapd crashed trying to handle the action, and crashed again as we tried to automatically report a bug about launchpad's crash". yay.
[09:36] <glosoli> alankila: never happened to me
[09:37] <carpediembaby> is interface the only major difference between (u,xu,ku)buntu's ?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: default apps and default desktop environment
[09:38] <alankila> glosoli: lucky for you. I experienced launchpad being down 1 or 2 days after 12.04's release, although it's certainly up more nowadays than it used to be
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> alankila: I'm on there DAILY and never had an issue except a few timeouts which resolve when I press F5
[09:39] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: but everything else works more or less the same way? there are not packages which would work on ubuntu and not on kubuntu, for example?
[09:39] <glosoli> I been using Laundchpad actively from the first Dev Release of Precise Pangolin hmm, strange
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: the underlying OS (drivers, services etc are identical)
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: depends if you like KDE apps or Gnome apps etc)
[09:40] <alankila> ActionParsnip: interesting. Anyway, most of my bad experience comes from years ago.
[09:40] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: hmm.. so if i wanted to try kubuntu, i should try 11.04 as well? since 12.04 will have similar problems
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: what is the issue?
[09:42] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: well quite a few .. i had updated 11.1 to 12.04 and it started giving me package errors which never downloaded even after updating sources lists and everything ..
[09:42] <carpediembaby> then i tried installing 12.04 afresh and the installer didn't work
[09:43] <rob> join #ubuntu-rorums
[09:43] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: and now i'm thinking of giving kde interface a try after using ubuntu for quite some time .. and i don't really like where the ui is going with ubuntu
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: there are lots of DEs and WMs to try :)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: you can also install gnome-shell which is the default shell for Gnome
[09:46] <vincentr> glad to come here for the 1st time :P
[09:49] <demon> есть руссаки
[09:50] <jpds> !ru | demon
[09:55] <ali> hi , I want to use my windows vpn on ubuntu 12.04 how do I do it
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[09:56] <ali> thanks
[09:58] <icat> hey all .. i've been getting constant segafaults of Xorg in libc-2.15.so ever since the upgrade to 12.04 ... how can i start investigating this?
[09:59] <beeju> I am on 11.04.How to activate  splash screen works? I did all the  tweaks through "start up manager" and "gnome-splash screen", but nothing works.
[10:00] <beeju> I am on 11.04.How to activate  splash screen works? I did all the  tweaks through "start up manager" and "gnome-splash screen", but nothing works.I get a broken screen after the boot loader.
[10:00] <mbroeker> beeju, what gpu do you have?
[10:01] <john1000> hello,i installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and boot on 40 sec,is normaly?
[10:01] <casper001> 40 secs?
[10:01] <beeju> mbroeker, gpu?
[10:01] <mbroeker> beeju, graphics card
[10:01] <john1000> yes
[10:01] <casper001> mine is about 10 seconds
[10:01] <beeju> mbroeker, Nvidia
[10:01] <john1000> intel quad core + nvidia 9800 GT
[10:02] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[10:02]  * casper001 shows john1000 a dozen of dan fast pendrives
[10:02] <mbroeker> beeju, edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf and comment out vesafb (like this: #blacklist vesafb)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> john1000: run:  dmesg | less      look for large gaps in the values on the left, use cursors to scroll dow
[10:03] <john1000> k
[10:03] <shape> Hello, I submitted this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/993245 And I am wondering, what happens next? Am I free to reinstall my system and see if it persists? Would that be counterproductive to solving the bug?
[10:03] <mbroeker> beeju, after that, edit /etc/default/grub and add vga=792 to the boot options. update-grub and reboot
[10:04] <beeju> mbroeker, can u pls describe what "comment out" means
[10:05] <mbroeker> beeju, the line looks now: blacklist vesafb
[10:05] <mbroeker> beeju, and you have to put a # infront of the line: results in #blacklist vesafb
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> beeju: add a hash to the left of the text, it will be seen as a comment and will be ignored
[10:06] <alankila> shape: you can probably adjust the harddisk sleep period to be longer than the average period between accesses if you worry about it.
[10:06] <alankila> shape: see the hdparm package, and option called -S, configurable in /etc/hdparm.conf iirc
[10:06] <shape> alankila: it's turned off. No sleep
[10:06] <beeju> ActionParsnip, & mbroeker ..thanx..let me do
[10:06] <alankila> shape: really, you have disabled the standby timer? Perhaps the next thing to change is the power management, or maybe you want to extend your filesystem dirty flush period to, say, 5 minutes
[10:07] <shape> alankila, It was disabled in power management. Let me check the hdparm thing
[10:08] <cerales> Can anyone give me any tips about installing a different kernel? Do I just need to acquire a binary orcompile it and somehow point my GRUB to it?
[10:08] <shape> alankila, My question was more directed to what was the next step in the bug report thing.
[10:08] <alankila> shape: I'm pretty sure you'll find some hdparm -S250 like setting that will keep the drive running (if you are worried about the on-off thing, although these drives are ostensibly designed for this)
[10:08] <mbroeker> cerales, sudo update-grub will find the new kernel images when the files are properly installed
[10:09] <cerales> oh ok - so i just need to put the kernel files in the right location?
[10:09] <mbroeker> cerales, yes
[10:09] <alankila> alternatively you can try to arrange the filesystem flush period to be so long that the drives can spend significant periods asleep. I once had a linux box with very noisy ball-bearing harddrive set up in a way that often allowed HD to sleep for days (it was just a router).
[10:09] <shape> alankila, -s: bad/missing powerup-in-standby value (0..1)
[10:09] <alankila> -S
[10:09] <cerales> mbroeker: great, thanks.
[10:10] <shape> alankila, -S: bad/missing standby-interval value (0..255)
[10:10] <alankila> yes. So you select a value that you think fits you.
[10:10] <airtonix> any tips for html5 videos having their YUV mixed up ?
[10:10] <shape> alankila, What is the default?
[10:10] <bcuraboy> how can i set nautilus to load thumbnails?reason: in chrome when i want to upload a photo to a social network,the preview of the file doesn't show up...
[10:10] <shape> or how can i check the default
[10:10] <alankila> *shrug* I don't know
[10:10]  * alankila is all SSD
[10:11] <alankila> if hdparm -S does not print the current value, maybe it's the sort of thing that can't be found out
[10:11] <john1000> d'not find large gaps on this command
[10:12] <airtonix> bcuraboy: nautilus : edit > preferences > preview > [Other Previewable Files] : show thumbnails : always, only for files smaller than : <some massive number>
[10:12] <shape> alankila ok I'll see if it does it again. monitoring now
[10:12] <shape> alankila, I set it do 255
[10:12] <shape> does the same thing
[10:13] <alankila> okay. I guess the drive firmware just ignores the -S setting then.
[10:13] <Deamosreapos> Hello,
[10:13] <alankila> you can try play with -B next, that's the advanced power management setting, 1 is most power-saving, and 255 should get rid of power-saving entirely
[10:13] <alankila> no idea what the values in between mean
[10:14] <shape> alankila, but regarding the bug report, what will happen next?
[10:14] <alankila> hdparm manual page says that values between 128 to 254 does not prevent spin-down, so maybe -B128 for you?
[10:14] <Deamosreapos> Im looking for some support regarding 12.4, where im running into a purple screen of death once I connect my TV asswell as my monitor to my machine
[10:15] <Deamosreapos> This occurs only at booting and its quite annoying cause I sometimes forget to unplug one of the cables so thats not a solution
[10:15] <mbroeker> Deamosreapos, paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin
[10:15] <mbroeker> !paste
[10:16] <alankila> shape: I don't know. I actually only just now read what has been written. I admit that desktop system complicates the matter, as there's probably some daemons that maybe use hdparm itself to manage these settings as you switch between the outlet power and not.
[10:16] <alankila> My experience with hdparm comes mostly from server-like use cases.
[10:16] <Deamosreapos> Mbroeker you happen to know is I can acces my partition from windows? (where Im at now?)
[10:16] <shape> alankila, nono, I am doing this for the laptop. The desktop works fine.
[10:17] <shape> alankila, the bug is only for the laptop
[10:17] <alankila> I mean desktop install of ubuntu actually
[10:17] <mbroeker> Deamosreapos, a std install uses ext4 filesystem and you have to google for a explorer extension for ext4. it is possible, yes :)
[10:17] <alankila> on server it's pretty sure that nobody tries to manage these things for you, if you don't set them, you go with whatever the whole system chose as defaults, maybe at BIOS level.
[10:18] <shape> alankila btw I tried B128 and B127
[10:18] <shape> and the same happens
[10:18] <alankila> but anyway, if hdparm -B and -S together do not stop drive spin-down cycle, then it's possible that for your particular use case nothing will help
[10:18] <alankila> I imagine your drive firmware has simply does not care what you try to program it to do
[10:19] <shape> alankila but it didnt do this in 11.10
[10:19] <alankila> the only option left is, probably, to lengthen the filesystem dirty buffer flush periods
[10:19] <alankila> shape: hmm... what's the status of the laptop-mode package?
[10:20] <alankila> or maybe it's called laptop-mode-tools
[10:20] <shape> alankila, it's not installed. not compatible with kernel 3 or something like that was the error
[10:20] <alankila> Oh.
[10:20] <alankila> and contents of /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode say?
[10:21] <shape> alankila one sec
[10:21] <Ninored> hello
[10:21] <Deamosreapos> mbroeker:
[10:21] <Deamosreapos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/968769/
[10:21] <crazyage> hello
[10:21] <shape> alankila 5
[10:22] <Ninored> have you got a writer editor saim at microsoft world (no open office )?
[10:22] <bcuraboy> how can i set nautilus to load thumbnails?reason: in chrome when i want to upload a photo to a social network,the preview of the file doesn't show up...
[10:22] <alankila> shape: okay, I imagine the nonzero value means that laptop_mode is enabled.
[10:22] <shape> alankila, yeah probably. I mean it knows Im running on a laptop since power management tells me batt, on AC, etc.
[10:23] <shape> alankila, and spin down HDD is all set to off. and this happens in only 12.04
[10:23] <alankila> shape: you can try, for now, to write a value like 30000 into /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs
[10:23] <bcuraboy> there's no nautilus elementary for ubuntu 12.04?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: if you can find a ppa, yes
[10:25] <shredding> I've curlftpfs'd a remote server into my vfs. It worked but the folder now belongs to root / root.
[10:25] <shredding> sudo chmod -Rc chris:chris myfolder says: "Ungültiger Modus chris:chris"
[10:25] <beeju> mbroeker, about splash screen, I followed what u said, not it shows two broken image at bottom and top
[10:25] <mbroeker> Deamosreapos, you are using the proprietary nvidia driver and you have to disable modeset and the nouveau driver. i am not sure why it is not disabled: how do you have installed the nvidia driver? via repos or from website?
[10:25] <shredding> (Ungültiger Modus ~= invalid mode)
[10:25] <shredding> whats wrong?
[10:26] <beeju> mbroeker, about splash screen, I followed what u said, now it shows two broken image at bottom and top
[10:26] <mbroeker> beeju, changed /etc/default/grub too?
[10:26] <beeju> mbroeker, yeah
[10:26] <shredding> chris is my name
[10:26] <Deamosreapos> mbroeker, I plain installed then when the OS asked me if I wanted to install the other drivers I did so since I couldnt connect to my TV without that
[10:26] <Deamosreapos> atleast so I thought
[10:27] <beeju> mbroeker, whats this vga 792 means? resolution?
[10:27] <mbroeker> beeju, 1024x768 24/32 bit
[10:27] <beeju> mbroeker, ok
[10:28] <beeju> mbroeker, ok, thats the resolution shows in start up manager
[10:28] <mbroeker> beeju, just a test: shut the system down: if the splash works while rebooting, it's only a simple tweak
[10:28] <shredding> Ok, my fault.
[10:28] <shredding> it's chown
[10:28] <beeju> mbroeker, ok
[10:28] <shredding> however, i can't change the owner of the remote folder and hence can only access it with root.
[10:29] <shredding> How can I change that?
[10:29] <cagoccione> Hi. I'm setting up a Lubuntu desktop for school PCs. I need to "block" the screen, to make sure that desktop icons remain in their position so that the user can't move them.
[10:29] <cagoccione> To avoid the deletion of them I removed write permissions.... Now I need this ^^^
[10:29] <shredding> I can't even access it with sudo cd myFolder
[10:29] <shredding> sudo: cd: command not found
[10:29] <shredding> I don't get it.
[10:30] <StevenR> cd is a builtin
[10:30] <StevenR> it's not a "real" command
[10:30] <StevenR> or rather, it's not an binary you can run, it's built into the shell
[10:30] <shredding> but how can i access the remote folder?
[10:31] <shredding> StevenR: sudo ls -l myFolder works, it shows me the content of the remote folder.
[10:31] <gaelfx> I'm trying to install from LiveUSB, and when it gets to downloading the software sources, it ignores the change I made to software sources in software center. I'm trying to select a better mirror for me, but the installer keeps using cn.ubuntu.archive (or whatever) and it's INCREDIBLY slow. Is there any way to make the installer respect my sources choice?
[10:31] <StevenR> shredding: what remote folder is this?
[10:31] <shredding> It's a server hosted on a2
[10:32] <shredding> a2hosting
[10:32] <shredding> a shared hosting server
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: I suggest not updating during install
[10:32] <StevenR> so... how are you accessing it? How have you connected the folder on your PC to the remote folder?
[10:32] <shredding> I can even sudo vim files via shell.
[10:32] <IntuitiveNipple> shredding: When you use sudo, you cause the system to temporarily create a login shell as the root user. Then the root user changes directory. Then the root shell exits because there are no more commands, and you're back to your USER login. The cd only operates for the root user.
[10:32] <StevenR> shredding: yes, all of that will work because they're commands not built ins
[10:33] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: yeah, but even just downloading the sources.list or whatever takes forever. it does that even when I choose not to download updates
[10:33] <shredding> curlftpfs 'Benutzername:Passwort@ftp-server.de/pfad_auf_dem_server/' ~/mnt
[10:33] <shredding> I connected like this
[10:33] <shredding> without 'parentheses'
[10:33] <StevenR> IntuitiveNipple: nope. cd is a builtin. It's not a command that root can run.
[10:33] <IntuitiveNipple> shredding: It sounds like your user account does NOT have permissions to the remote directory, which is why you need to use 'sudo'
[10:34] <shredding> Hm.
[10:34] <IntuitiveNipple> StevenR: sudo will start a log-in shell (usually /usr/bin/sh for root)
[10:34] <StevenR> shredding: can you specify user/group options to curlftpfs ?
[10:34] <shredding> I thought, once I entered the folder, I would act as the user on the shell.
[10:34] <shredding> As the user on the remote server i meant
[10:34] <StevenR> shredding: it's not a problem with the "remote" bit
[10:35] <IntuitiveNipple> shredding: If you did "sudo -i" to enter an interactive root session, THEN you could, then you'd use "exit" when finished to return to your USER account
[10:35] <StevenR> shredding: the permissions are being applied locally, but they affect your access to the remote folder
[10:35] <shredding> I can't specify any user/group options.
[10:35] <cagoccione> Hi. I'm setting up a Lubuntu desktop for school PCs. I need to "block" the screen, to make sure that desktop icons remain in their position so that the user can't move them.
[10:35] <cagoccione> To avoid the deletion of them I removed write permissions.... Now I need this ^^^
[10:36] <shredding> It says 'Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt' which means operation is permitted.
[10:36] <StevenR> shredding: can you run the command as your user? i.e. don't run curlftpfs with sudo ?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: you could mark the ~/Desktop folder as read only to the owner
[10:36] <shredding> i try this.
[10:37] <shredding> StevenR: That did the trick.
[10:37] <shredding> Who.
[10:37] <shredding> Who-oo I meant.
[10:37] <StevenR> shredding: look at the manpage, specifically, the -o uid, gid and allow_other options ?
[10:37] <shredding> Thank you very much!
[10:37] <StevenR> no problem :)
[10:38] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: I already did that. That avoids the deletion of files, but they still can be "moved"
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: ahhh, hmm not sure there. I know what you mean
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: let me see what's what
[10:39] <carpediembaby> hi. i was trying to install ubuntu (over an existing ubuntu install) but the installer crashed and now i don't have either windows OR ubuntu.. it wrote over GRUB and i get: error: "no such partition  grub rescue>"
[10:40] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: I need only to know in which file lxde put the icon position. It just needs a read-only permission and it's done
[10:40] <dhjrk> hi
[10:40] <cryzeck> I have a issue with adjusting backlight on my laptop with the fn keys, anyone know how to fix it?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: asked in #lxde ?
[10:41] <carpediembaby> can someone help me recover from this mess?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: any chance of you tellng us the make and model of laptop?
[10:41] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, i guess somewhere in ~/.config :)
[10:41] <dhjrk> kde FOREVER)
[10:41] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: yeah, they're all idlers
[10:41] <cryzeck> ActionParsnip: Lenovo t420s
[10:41] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: what in ~/.config?
[10:41] <sturubinuru> Hi :) This is my video-card model: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[10:41] <sturubinuru> My pc is really slow... which driver can I install?
[10:41] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, the config files for you desktop environment
[10:42] <cryzeck> It worked perfectly in 12.04, but not in 11.10, so there should be a way i hope
[10:42] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: how are they related to my problem? i don't have a desktop environment anymore .. :D i'm running from usb stick
[10:43] <stefg> cagoccione: I'm afraid you'd need a special desktop manager for a kiosk mode (unless i'm overlooking some conf-options in lxde)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: try:  echo "mem" | sudo tee /sys/power/state
[10:43] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, sorry, sorry, i meant the other guy with a similar name :)
[10:44] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: np! i tought so
[10:44] <cagoccione> ok
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: seems you need to add the boot options: acpi_backlight=vendor acpi_osi=Linux
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T420
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: have you seen that page?
[10:44] <cryzeck> yes, i've tried
[10:44] <cryzeck> also the echo "mem" part, which just puts it in sleep
[10:44] <sturubinuru> Hi :) This is my video-card model:
[10:44] <sturubinuru> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[10:44] <sturubinuru> My pc is really slow... which driver can I install?
[10:45] <carpediembaby> can i make an install usb while i am booted with a same usb on which i want to write?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: gotcha
[10:45] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, are you currently on the broken system via usb?
[10:45] <deamosreapos_> Mbrooker im now in my safe mode
[10:45] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: yes.
[10:45] <kx__> @caroediembaby Do you have windows installation media ?
[10:45] <carpediembaby> and i only have one usb stick
[10:45] <deamosreapos_> mbroeker sorry :) you said I had to disable drivers right?
[10:45] <carpediembaby> kx__: no, i don't have the windows install cd
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: try with just one of the extra boot options, make sure you have latest BIOS
[10:46] <mbroeker> deamosreapos_, the nouveau driver and modeset for the proprietary nvidia driver, yes
[10:46] <deamosreapos_> How I do that? Or shall google be my guide?
[10:47] <kx__> carpediumbaby: can you try this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359802
[10:47] <mbroeker> deamosreapos_, the nvidia driver should set it automatically: option nouveau nomodeset blacklist nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia*
[10:47] <pungi-man> ActionParsnip, How to update BIOS?? I want to do it!
[10:47] <cryzeck> ActionParsnip: I will, thanks.
[10:48] <pungi-man> because it again loads defaults!!
[10:48] <bcuraboy> is there any way to set thumbnails to load in marlin?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> pungi-man: depends on the hardware, i'd ask in ##hardware
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> !find marlin
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: marlin isn't supported here
[10:48] <sturubinuru> Hi :) This is my video-card model:
[10:48] <sturubinuru> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[10:48] <sturubinuru> My pc is really slow... which driver can I install?
[10:48] <sturubinuru> !ping
[10:49] <beeju> mbroeker, I got this pic after reboot( about splash screen) http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2zxr0j4&s=6
[10:49] <deamosreapos_> Mbroeker so I now use the additional drivers program to reinstall the version current
[10:49] <deamosreapos_> so I should reboot now? and what else to do?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: what spec is your system..cpu? ram? gpu?
[10:50] <lnxslck> i've installed gnome 3 through software manager, it broke my system, no i've removed it, but in lightdm i'm still able to login to gnome
[10:50] <mbroeker> beeju, great splash: can i install it :XD?
[10:50] <lnxslck> how ca i remove all of gnome?
[10:50] <kx__> @carpediumbaby try the last post on the thread
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: which release are you using?
[10:50] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, 12.04
[10:50] <unkn-error> hello! The LowLatency dose it helps or not at photography? (using Darktable, Gimp,  RawTeraphee && photoshop emulated with wine
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: then it comes with Gnome3 by default
[10:50] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: Is that on a Dell Dimension?
[10:50] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i've added a ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[10:50] <unkn-error> I am refering to the kernel patch from ubuntustudio
[10:51] <beeju> mbroeker, its not joke..I followed u and nothing changed
[10:51] <mbroeker> !nvidia
[10:51] <carpediembaby> kx_: ok trying it out
[10:51] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, actually it only brought unity
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: why, precise comes with gnome3, why are you adding PPAs?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: Unity is a shell, 12.04 uses Gnome
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: Unity is not a replacement for Gnome
[10:51] <mbroeker> beeju, ok. sorry, i cannot help with your bootsplash problem
[10:51] <beeju> mbroeker, ok
[10:52] <sturubinuru> ActionParsnip, IntuitiveNipple: It is an old compaq desktop pc. 256mb ram (16shared with vga)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: if you install ppa-purge you can remove the ppa and it should reinstall the official gnome3
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: I'd install Lubuntu, it will run faster
[10:52] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i removed the ppa from software center
[10:52] <lnxslck> is that ok?
[10:52] <sturubinuru> ActionParsnip: I'm with Lubuntu! :D
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: that won't reinstall the originals, like ppa-purge does
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: and when did you tell us that....?
[10:53]  * casper001 minuses one for lubuntu
[10:53] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3   is that ok?
[10:53] <sturubinuru> ActionParsnip: right now!
[10:54] <nodestool> where are the completion "config" files stored for zsh ?
[10:54] <Janyk> Hello! I have an little question
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: yes but it would've been useful easrlier, is my point
[10:54] <sturubinuru> ok sorry
[10:54] <Janyk> How many RAM do you need for ubuntu
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: yes, but you may need to re-add it
[10:54] <bcuraboy> simple question-how can i have my music folder with the cd cover showing on each album??
[10:54] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: OK ... try this: Reboot the PC and enter the BIOS setup. Find the setting for "AGP Aperture" (possibly labelled as Video Memory) and if it has the options, increase it to 8MB or 16MB if those are available.
[10:54] <ThinkT510> !requirements | Janyk
[10:54] <mbroeker> deamosreapos_, edit /etc/default/grub and add nomodeset after quiet splash, update-grub and reboot. should fix it
[10:55] <nodestool> people are running debian on rassbery pi, i saw some videos on youtube Janyk
[10:55] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, PPA purged successfully :) i'll reboot this to see the efects
[10:55] <Janyk> !lubuntu
[10:55] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: READ THIS link which describes several successful steps for that chipset: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/intel-82845g-788563/page3.html#post4385831
[10:55] <Janyk> Thank you ubottu
[10:55] <Janyk> /part
[10:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Janyk: For a minimal non-GUI install, it's possible in 96MB although tight!
[10:56] <sturubinuru> IntuitiveNipple: uff I lost BIOS password. :( I already tried to remove the battery but it doesn't work... It addressed me to think there's a special memory to store it, or maybe a default password is present also with factory-settings :(
[10:56] <Zeising> what can be wrong if gnome-classic doesn't show the menu bar?
[10:57] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: No, you'll need to get into the BIOS settings. I'd *guess* there is a pair of CMOS RESET terminals on the motherboard. You might find them mentioned in the motherboard manual
[10:57] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, now, how can i be sure that i have the correct gnome for my ubuntu? the one tha comes by default?
[10:58] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: There are reset procedures for the Compaqa (I have a little deskpro sff here)
[10:58] <kasii> asking for recovery software which will restore external had drive from the start
[10:58] <carpediembaby> kx__: i tried the page.. i get stuck at the third line: chainloader +1
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: yes, ppa purge reinstalls the packages the ppa updated from the default repos
[10:59] <sturubinuru> IntuitiveNipple: what's yours?
[10:59] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: What's my what?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: why did you add the PPA anyway?
[10:59] <Somelauw> How to install gmplayer, I tried both sudo aptitude install gmplayer and mplayer-gui
[11:00] <sturubinuru> IntuitiveNipple: your procedure
[11:00] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, it's a bit confused the gnome3 vs gnome-shell
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer
[11:00] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i wanted the real gnome 3, not the gnome-shell
[11:00] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: Oh, that's what they call it, thanks.
[11:00] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, so i read that in some site to add that ppa to get the full gnome 3
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: gnome-shell is just a shell for Gnome, so you have gnome3
[11:00] <LinuxMonkey> ive learned to not add PPA's as they are generally not supported and for the most part may break your system
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: you have the full gnome3
[11:01] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: Well, the compaq deskpro sff I have doesn't have a locked BIOS, but I read the manual for it and there is a hardware procedure to reset the BIOS. It can be found on the web by searching, too
[11:01] <Somelauw> Also, I installed mplayer-gui, but the ncurses interface of it won't open.
[11:01] <ThinkT510> LinuxMonkey: i so glad at least  one person has learned that
[11:01] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, if i type: apt-get install gnome-shell shouldn't it say that's already installed?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: if you have it, then yes. Default Ubuntu 12.04 comes with Unity
[11:02] <kasii> asking for recovery software which will restore external had drive from the start
[11:02] <IntuitiveNipple> LinuxMonkey: That's a shame. When PPAs started we used them to provide bug-fixed packages early for testing, or to release newer upstream packages. I think they're the victim of Ubuntu's success at reaching a non-technical audience
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> kasii: how do you mean restore it from the start?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> !ppa
[11:02] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, there's my confusion right there, i've installed ubuntu 12.04, and in lightdm i only had the option to use unity
[11:03] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, after this gnome mess i have now the option to use gnome also
[11:03] <LinuxMonkey> IntuitiveNipple: Yeah their not bad when their maintained but most just get depriciated fast
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: then install what you desire and log into the session
[11:03] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, and my grub theme changed from Ubuntu default to Debian :(
[11:03] <deamosreapos> mbroeker I installed the different driver, ubuntu booted normally, and I could plug in my HDMI and it would reconise my TV and I cloned the screens then I rebooted to check and  I got a nice purple screen once more :(
[11:03] <IntuitiveNipple> LinuxMonkey: True ... I just deleted about 60 packages out of my PPA that were overtaken by events
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: did you by any chanc have debian, then change your sources to ubuntu?
[11:04] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, no
[11:04] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, it was this gnome installation
[11:04] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i haven't used debian in years
[11:04] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i mean to recover all of my data
[11:05] <solsTiCe> hi. where can I find the log of the installer ? it's been twice already that I try to install PP and the installer crashed at the same place. after not importing account. it just closed or disapear or crash. then seems to send something huge over the netwrok. a bug report ? downloading updates ?
[11:05] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i mean to recover all of my data
[11:05] <LinuxMonkey> IntuitiveNipple: can i msg you for a sec?
[11:06] <shredding> Is there any chance to install Netbeans 7.1 instead of 7.0.1 on ubunutu, because the <Enter> Button does not work in 7.0.1 and I'd call that a problem.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> kasii: use your backups, far easier
[11:06] <mbroeker> shredding, go to netbeans.org and install the latest version.
[11:07] <shredding> mbroeker: Are there any problems if I install that?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> kasii: or you can use foremost which will attemot to recover the data
[11:07] <kasii> ActionParsnip, i don  have backups
[11:07] <IntuitiveNipple> LinuxMonkey: sure
[11:07] <deamosreapos> anyone knows what could be wrong besides I had the wrong drivers but now the right ones?
[11:07] <mbroeker> shredding, no: just uninstall the netbeans package and make sure to install ant and a default-jdk
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> kasii: I suggest you get a backup regime if your data is important. Why is there no backup?
[11:08] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  where  can i get foremost
[11:08] <shredding> what do you mean be "default-jdk"?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost | kasii
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kasii: where do you get ANY software in ubuntu from/
[11:08] <mbroeker> shredding, aptitude purge netbeans and aptitude install default-jdk ant
[11:08] <shredding> I guess i got that.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kasii: again...why is there no backup?
[11:08] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  it was in extenal  hard drive
[11:08] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: I've not read back on all of your issue, but am I guessing correctly that you have the cloned HDMI connected at startup ?
[11:08] <carpediembaby> so can anyone help me with booting into windows? i was trying to install ubuntu (12.04) over an existing ubuntu install but it crashed and now i get "grub rescue> " prompt. i tried this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359802 but i get stuck at "chainloader +1" command
[11:09] <shredding> what does "aptitude purge" mean (I'm still learning linux)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> kasii: you can still make a copy of the data to ANOTHER external drive.
[11:09] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i kept them only in external hardive
[11:09] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple that is correct I have a normal screen which is connected by VGA, and I got a tv which is connected by HDMI
[11:09] <mbroeker> shredding, use the package manager :) purge removes packages, install installs them
[11:09] <shredding> I want to use the terminal, it's more stylish.
[11:10] <gLove_> hi does anybody know how to fix my boot problem. i have been searching on the web an trying various solutions, but it doesnt work and i need to fix this asap.
[11:10] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple and the moment I turn on my pc with botht the cables connected everything goes to smithereens and i get a nice purple screen to stare at >< I did found some others have a similar issue, but none of their solutions seemed to worked so far
[11:10] <mbroeker> shredding, do you programme in java with netbeans?
[11:10] <gLove_> the problem is that it boots into grub rescue (macbook with 12.04, after the latest update) with the error on elf magic
[11:10] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: If this is on a PC (not a laptop/notebook) then it could be as simple as the HDMI output is seen by the video card as the primary output so when something is connected at boot it tries to use it but somehow the drivers don't know how. Do you get a proper screen if you leave the HDMI disconnected whilst the PC boots?
[11:10] <shredding> I mainly do PHP.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> kasii: do yourself a favour and get a backup
[11:11] <shredding> I use eclipse for Java, because of the Android integration.
[11:11] <mbroeker> shredding, ok. just install the php package from netbeans.org and add the smarty zend whatever plugin from within netbeans. no need for ant in this case
[11:11] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple after this situation it gives an error it cant even load the OS, then I boot in safe mode then once I reboot it works properly again
[11:11] <stefg> gLove_: and you are on a Live CD on the very machine now?
[11:11] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple so thats then with only the VGA cable attached
[11:11] <shredding> mbroeker: I use ant to minify js and css
[11:11] <shredding> So it's cool.
[11:11] <gLove_> stefg: yes i am
[11:11] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: let me think!
[11:12] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple fair enough :) Didnt ment to rush you :)
[11:12] <stefg> gLove_: so I'd try to reconfigure/reinstall grub first
[11:12] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: no,  its dredging mty memory!
[11:12] <gLove_> stefg: i tried, also tried boot-repair
[11:13] <gLove_> stefg: what is the vital thing i am missing here you think?
[11:13] <mbroeker> shredding, the developers in my company use all netbeans and install the software in their home directory. they decide, which plugins they want to use and what not.
[11:13] <stefg> gLove_: I'd go with an old school " chroot into damaged system and dpkg-reconfigure grub" approach ..
[11:13] <shredding> We use netbeans at work to, but on windows.
[11:13] <gLove_> stefg: gonna try that now, brb
[11:15] <shredding> mbroeker: Another n00b question. I've downloaded netbeans and have an .sh file now.
[11:15] <stefg> gLove_: Macs tend to have funny partition layouts, and grub is a special beast on EFI machines
[11:15] <shredding> Ain't sudo ./netbeans-7.1.2-ml-php-linux.sh the right command?
[11:15] <mbroeker> shredding, sh netbeans*.sh
[11:16] <mbroeker> shredding, or make it executable
[11:16] <shredding> it works.
[11:16] <shredding> thanks
[11:16] <mbroeker> shredding, http://www.anrichter.net/2010/01/trac-ticketsystem-in-die-netbeans-ide-integrieren/
[11:16] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i don't see the  forensics application  see the image of the screen after searching so which is which
[11:16] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: I seem to remember when I saw that happen there was a hardware issue going on, but I'm struggling to recall or find any notes on the incident
[11:17] <mbroeker> shredding, that's BIRT, business intelligence for netbeans: greatest netbeans plugin ever :)
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> kasii: sudo apt-get install foremost
[11:17] <kasii> ActionParsnip, http://imagebin.org/211087
[11:17] <shredding> mbroeker: Looks nice. But we're using codebase for ticketig.
[11:17] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple ok well as my hardware concerned: intel core2quad Q9450, geforce GTX460 and I think the card might be the issue somewhere but not quite sure
[11:18] <shredding> mbroeker: Looks nice. But we're using codebase for ticketing.
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> kasii: close that and use the terminal, should be ok
[11:19] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: Yes, it could be. If you had an alternative video adapter lying around (or in another PC) I'd be tempted to swap it in just to test whether this is specific to the video card, or a more general system problem. That helps to isolate and identify the bug
[11:19] <shredding> mbroeker: Thanks for your tips. I have now netbeans up and running.
[11:20] <stefg> !pm > dennis__
[11:20] <gaelfx> I'm trying to install to an Asus 1225B using LiveUSB, but every time I do, when it gets to dummy grub-install, the screen turns into a terminal, though the mouse remains and can move for a while before it freezes. Anyone have any idea what's going on?
[11:20] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, do you know how can i get the default grub theme back?
[11:20] <dennis__> stefg, ok
[11:21] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple could give that a go,
[11:21] <dennis__> stefg, i am trying stuff now
[11:21] <deamosreapos> but that will be later on today then, since thats quite the operation
[11:21] <stefg> dennis__: assuming you're gLove_  you could drop a fdisk -l listing to paste.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple say if thats the problem then what could I do?
[11:22] <vectorshelve> how to create a csv file in ubuntu ?
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: Well, until you can narrow down the possibilities its hard to say, but the art of bug tracking and fixing is to narrow down the possibilities to ONE !
[11:23] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, without programming skills? use libreoffice and export a table to csv :)
[11:23] <Miskor> Torified Pidgin and Thunderbird cannot connect?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: a CSV is just a text file with comma-separated values so you could do something like echo "1,2,3,4,5" > myfile.csv
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> vectorshelve: use gedit
[11:24] <vectorshelve> so how to get rows out of it... new lines ?
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: Precisely
[11:24] <gaelfx> is it normal for Ubiquity to destroy the GUI during installing grub?
[11:25] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: And most applications that read CSVs will look for column names on the first line
[11:25] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: I think that happens when grub tests for graphics video mode support and it goes wrong
[11:25] <vectorshelve> I want a csv file like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/968889/
[11:25] <vectorshelve> with the same values..
[11:26] <craigbass1976> I'm in the software center, and I keep seeing that I have java installed.  I uninstall it.  I come back.  It's there showing that it's still installed. Rinse.  Repeat...  Eh?
[11:26] <stefg> dennis__ , gLove_ : http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html might help
[11:26] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, and the input format is what?
[11:26] <jrib> craigbass1976: tried using apt-get in the terminal?
[11:26] <krababbel> craigbass1976: you could try remving it with apt-get uninstall
[11:27] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: so you're saying I just need to wait it out or I need to use nomodeset when booting the Live image? or what?
[11:27] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/968892/
[11:27] <vectorshelve> how can I  get the csv like this
[11:27] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: simply paste those lines into a text file and save it as a .csv file. As someone else said you can use the system text editor, gedit
[11:27] <BlouBlou> what's the name of the flash installed package?
[11:27] <BlouBlou> installer
[11:27] <vectorshelve> IntuitiveNipple: the first row should be the attribute names right ?
[11:27] <craigbass1976> krababbel, not remove?
[11:28] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: No, you're hitting a bug I think, grub shouldn't let you see it's doing that. At most you should see a slight flicker
[11:28] <stefg> vectorshelve: look at awk / mawk
[11:28] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: the weird thing is, the rest of the screen turns into CLI with lots of hex addresses and a little text, but the mouse remains exactly the same as it was
[11:28] <vectorshelve> stefg: whats that ?
[11:28] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: That can help *if* the program that reads the CSV knows to take the first line as column names but that is OPTIONAL - you don't need that for a valid CSV
[11:29] <krababbel> craigbass1976: ?
[11:29] <stefg> !info awk | vectorshelve
[11:29] <stefg> !info mawk | vectorshelve
[11:29] <vectorshelve> IntuitiveNipple: ok so I just need to copy paste the data as it is and save as .csv ?
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: It sounds like there are two screen drivers trying to operate: a framebuffer and a graphics driver for X
[11:29] <craigbass1976> krababbel, I've never used uninstall, and didn't know it was even an option.  I always did remove
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: You've got it! :)
[11:29] <stefg> vectorshelve: that's as old as unix .... but still useful
[11:29] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, cat test.txt | awk -F", " '{ print $1 $2 $3 $4 }'
[11:29] <vectorshelve> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[11:30] <krababbel> craigbass1976: sorry, it is remove probably, I haven't used it in a while
[11:30] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: is there anyway I can check what's left of the install for error logs?
[11:30] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: I dont know awk... wat does it do /.
[11:30] <krababbel> craigbass1976: Yesterday I had the same problem with a Thunderbird addon.
[11:30] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, try it out in your terminal with your test.csv file
[11:30] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: or possibly try reinstalling grub to get things actually bootable?
[11:30] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: ok thanks
[11:30] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, $1 is the first value, $2 the second and so on
[11:30] <kasii> ActionParsnip, see how terminal how it behaves and what to do  http://imagebin.org/211089
[11:31] <craigbass1976> krababbel, mwahaha: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-debian-package-management-cheat-sheet.html
[11:31] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: so its a loop that repeats for all rows
[11:31] <kasii> ActionParsnip, see how terminal how it behaves and what to do  http://imagebin.org/211089
[11:31] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, cat test.txt | awk -F", " '{ print $1 "-" $2 "--" $3 "----" $4 }'
[11:31] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: There are logs, if I recall, in /var/log/installer/  and other log files in /var/log/
[11:31] <krababbel> craigbass1976: :) I often use purge
[11:31] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, awk processes every line and prints what it should print $1-$4 in this case
[11:32] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to reinstall a package by using apt-get?
[11:32] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: ok thanks
[11:32] <BlouBlou> (not removed and install, but automatically reinstall)
[11:32] <craigbass1976> BlouBlou, apt-get install package name
[11:32] <jrib> BlouBlou: why?
[11:32] <stefg> BlouBlou: apt-get install -reinstall <package>
[11:32] <mbroeker> BlouBlou, with or without lost config files?
[11:32] <craigbass1976> How about listing the installed packages named something like *ava*
[11:33] <stefg> !apt
[11:33] <BlouBlou> mbroeker: removing config files
[11:33] <Dr_willis> apt-get supports wildcards in ubuntu ive noticed
[11:33] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[11:33] <tBag> Witam ktoś pomorze z aktualizacją ubuntu 10.04 wykonałem polecenie apt-get dist-upgrade teraz mam okienko i nie wiem co wybrać?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> and tab completion
[11:33] <jrib> craigbass1976: dpkg -l '*ava*' | grep '^ii'     with aptitude: aptitude search '~i~n*ava*'
[11:33] <stefg> !pl | tBag
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> kasii: s it still there or has the package installed?
[11:33] <jrib> craigbass1976: oops, aptitude expects a regex
[11:33] <tBag> Hi can you help me with upgrade ubuntu??
[11:34] <mbroeker> BlouBlou,  aptitude -o Dpkg::Options="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename> reinstalls and restores the original state
[11:34] <craigbass1976> jrib, got it
[11:34] <stefg> tBag: sure.... after you have done your backups :-)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> tBag: upgrade within the same release, or to the next release?
[11:34] <bobbyaldol> hey my webbrowser is trying to download the php files rather than opening them.
[11:34] <bobbyaldol> googled a lot but coudnt understand anything . please help
[11:34] <mbroeker> bobbyaldol, on your own server? your fault! on another server? their fault
[11:35] <tBag> i can't done backups because the allready install. I have this window: http://s4.ifotos.pl/img/zrzutekra_reaxaea.png
[11:35] <bobbyaldol> my own server apache2
[11:35] <jrib> mbroeker: as much as I love aptitude we should try to use apt-get here (or at least provide the apt-get equivalent) since it's installed by default and aptitude is broken on multi-arch systems
[11:35] <BlouBlou> mbroeker: Great, thank you
[11:35] <jrib> !lamp | bobbyaldol
[11:35] <jrib> bobbyaldol: read the troubleshooting section for that exact issue on the wiki page ubottu just linked you to
[11:35] <mbroeker> jrib, ok
[11:35] <BlouBlou> jrib: aptitude came installed by default in my ubuntu, also works fine for me
[11:36] <krababbel> craigbass1976: apt-cache search should work
[11:36] <stefg> tBag: let it reinstalll
[11:36] <Dr_willis> aptitude is not installed by default last i checked...
[11:36] <tBag> What option i must click?? Yes or no??
[11:36] <jrib> BlouBlou: not on the latest ubuntu versions :)  See release notes for 12.04 about the issue with aptitude and multi-arch
[11:36] <Jwtiyar> after formatting my windows i cant boot to ubuntu , except bott repair any other option to fx it through windows?
[11:36] <mbroeker> on 12.04 server it is preinstalled
[11:36] <stefg> tBag: Nie
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> tBag: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:36] <krababbel> I had to remove a thunderbird extension with apt-get, software center didn't work
[11:36] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  am uploading to show you where it is
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Jwtiyar,  so what is it doing exactly? you get the grub menu, you dont get the gui login? but have to use the grub 'rescue' mode?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tBag: you are using backtrack, which isn't supported here
[11:37] <tBag> stefg i don't must install kernel-image??
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tBag: your OS is supoprted in #backy
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ooops
[11:37] <krababbel> craigbass1976: don't need wildcards in apt-cache
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> #backtrack-linux
[11:37] <jrib> ActionParsnip: i think that would be a nice nickname though, "backy"
[11:38] <tBag> ActionParsnip, yes backtrack-linux but it is ubuntu help please
[11:38] <Dr_willis> BackyDorre
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> jrib: hehe, true
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tBag: no, it's backtrack
[11:38] <Dr_willis> tBag,  backtrack is not ubuntu.
[11:38] <Jwtiyar> Dr_willis, yes does not show the grup menu another time i fixed it throught live cd ubuntu now i dont have cd or usb , and i want to fix it throught windows
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tBag: NONE of the ubuntu spinoffs are supported here
[11:38] <stefg> tBag: whatever happened .... it should not be a problem of reinstalling a kernel, but it surely is a problem to interrupt the upgrade
[11:38] <kasii> ActionParsnip, now its here
[11:38] <kasii> ActionParsnip, now its here  http://imagebin.org/211090
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Jwtiyar,  i know of no way to 'fix' grub from within windows. there may be a way. but ive never seen it.  You can setup grub2 to boot a iso file from a  partition if you need some sort of way to boot a emergancy repair live cd
[11:39] <tBag> stefg so what option i must click Yes(Tak) or No(Nie) :)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> kasii: tried a different source? Maybe that one is busy.
[11:39] <stefg> tBag: Nie ... as said before..
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> tBag: please take it to #backtrack-linux
[11:39] <kasii> ActionParsnip, okay tell the other
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> kasii: you can change source in software centre
[11:40] <kasii> okay which source
[11:40] <Dr_willis> !info mirrorselect
[11:40] <Jwtiyar> Dr_willis, thank you
[11:40] <mbroeker> btw: anyone having problems with rhythmbox on 12.04? eg it crashes during startup?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm. what was that mirror testing tool.
[11:40] <tBag> stefg, thanks. The ubuntu forums don't ansfer me now
[11:40] <tBag> http://ubuntu.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=136&t=158255
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Dr_willis: there is a convoluted way to do grub fixes from Windows... but it involves Ubuntu installed in a virtual machine :s
[11:41] <kasii>  Action parsnip okay which source
[11:41] <LinuxMonkey> !backtrack | tBag
[11:41] <craigbass1976> There's no repo to get Sun's java from anymore, right?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> IntuitiveNipple,  id just set up grub2 to boot an iso from a hd. seen that done with windows tools from pendrivelinux site.
[11:41] <stefg> !java
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: there is a PPA
[11:42] <mbroeker> craigbass1976, sun java is now oracle java :)
[11:42] <tBag> #backtrack-linux
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[11:42] <craigbass1976> mbroeker, I know, but Oracle is evil.  I prefer the previous owner's name. :)
[11:42] <mbroeker> hehe
[11:42] <Dr_willis> SUN had its own Sins... ;)
[11:42] <kasii>  okay which source
[11:42] <kasii> ActionParsnip, okay which source
[11:43] <anakinuni> newbie needs help with audio in ubuntu
[11:43] <stefg> !sound
[11:44] <stefg> ...uhhh , taht factoid is ancient ...
[11:44] <kasii> ActionParsnip, okay which source
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> kasii: that doesn't make any sense
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> kasii: did you change the source?
[11:45] <anev> do i have to add repos to synaptic to make it of any use?
[11:45] <anev> can't find snort?
[11:45] <dennis__> stefg, the chroot command gives me a error: /bin/bash no such file or directory
[11:45] <kasii> ActionParsnip, i dont the source if have been changed or not i need ya help
[11:45] <gry> hi! I try installing libdevel-repl-perl in synaptic, and this is what it tells me -- W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libb/libbrowser-open-perl/libbrowser-open-perl_0.03-1_all.deb - Connection failed
[11:46] <ThinkT510> !info snort | anev
[11:46] <craigbass1976> anakinuni, I found that installing the pulse controls helps with some things that I couldn't find easily elsewhere.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> gry: try:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[11:46] <stefg> dennis__: ubuntu uses dash .... an bTW did you rbind-mount /sys /proc and /dev before chrooting?
[11:46] <kasii> ActionParsnip, i dont  know  the source if have been changed or not i need ya help
[11:46] <anev> ThinkT510: ?
[11:46] <dennis__> stefg, i did
[11:46] <ThinkT510> anev: snort is in the repo
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> kasii: no, its not a case of IF it has been changed, you NEED to change it
[11:47] <dennis__> stefg, what do i do now
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> kasii: use software centre to change source
[11:47] <anakinuni> @craigbass1976, really? I only have problems when connecting my headphones, my speakers work great...
[11:47] <anev> ThinkT510: oh - was just thinking it was out of date but when i try to refresh, it reports an error: "Could not download all repository indexes" :(
[11:47] <anev> no address assoicated with 'ie.aarchive.ubuntu.com' :(
[11:47] <kasii> ActionParsnip, tell me how can i change the source from the software centre
[11:47] <ThinkT510> anev: what ubuntu are you running
[11:48] <ThinkT510> anev: 10.10 is eol
[11:48] <stefg> dennis__: does 'chroot </mysystem> sh' work? should pick the right shell from environment
[11:48] <dennis__> stefg: no :(
[11:48] <craigbass1976> anakinuni, that was my problem.  I couldn't find (in a GUI or alsamixer) where to switch from one to the other.
[11:48] <Crooper> What would be the reason for me getting a 'initramfs' prompt when booting up?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> kasii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:48] <kasii> ActionParsnip, tell me how can i change the source from the software centre
[11:48] <Dr_willis> anev,  change it to archive.ubuntu.com perhaps...
[11:48] <dennis__> stefg: same error. failed to run command 'sh': no such file or dir
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Crooper: Failure to find or mount the root partition
[11:49] <anev> ThinkT510: 10.10
[11:49] <anev> Dr_willis: i'll give it a try
[11:49] <ThinkT510> anev: use a supported release
[11:49] <sirknight> hi
[11:49] <stefg> dennis__: hmmm ... something's really borked .... did you fsck / know that your harddsik is alright?
[11:49] <ThinkT510> !eol | anev
[11:49] <Dr_willis> anev,  either yoy typed it wrong or theres a typo 'aarchive'
[11:49] <Crooper> IntuitiveNipple any ideas how to fix it?
[11:49] <jrib> !away > Someguy123[afk]
[11:50] <sirknight>  i like to ssh into a box copyy a 6gb ish  folder and to a remote computer
[11:50] <sirknight> how to do it?
[11:50] <Dr_willis> sirknight,  use scp
[11:50] <stefg> sirknight: scp
[11:51] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Crooper: You need to identify the cause, by catching errors written to the screen during start-up. Reboot and enter the GRUB boot-loader menu by holding down the Shift key as soon as BIOS finishes POSTing. Then choose the recovery option and watch the messages on screen carefully.
[11:51] <stefg> !scp
[11:51]  * stefg is impressed
[11:51] <Dr_willis> i got a scp client on my android phone. ;)
[11:51] <Crooper> Ok
[11:52] <Crooper> I'll haveto do that ina minute...
[11:52] <sirknight> Dr_willis,  really?? what is it?
[11:53] <Crooper> Thnx IntuitiveNipple
[11:53] <anev> Dr_willis: working now - but still no snort..
[11:53] <Dr_willis> sirknight,  theres many ssh tools for android.
[11:54] <Dr_willis> anev,  no idea what your original issue is.. if your release is EOL. time to upgrade
[11:54] <anev> probably
[11:54] <ThinkT510> anev: 10.10 is no longer supported
[11:54] <anev> it's only a vm image anyways
[11:54] <anev> i'll update so
[11:55] <ThinkT510> anev: don't worry, you don't have to use unity in newer releases
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: good riddance too
[11:55] <stefg> heheh
[11:55]  * Dr_willis likes the Unity HUD feature.
[11:55] <laumogay> hi where can i config the unity bar??
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> is there a way to remove HUD?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: use myunity
[11:56] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: 12.04 is the first time i've tried unity properly, it isn't as bad as i thought it would be
[11:56] <stefg> ActionParsnip: ... cut out the alternate key on your keyboard :-)
[11:56] <totem> nang ning nang ning nong
[11:56] <mbroeker> is it possible to get the 11.10 Unity Screen with Browser, Pictures, Sound And Email back in 12.04?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: its ok here too, but I only use about 5 programs on one screen, on one desktop :)
[11:56] <totem> malam minggu goyang dombret
[11:56] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  i think its somehow intertwined with the global menu
[11:56] <laumogay> ActionParsnip, thx
[11:56] <ThinkT510> totem: stop that please
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> stefg: its good for copy and paste but if you don't press it right the HUD jumps up
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: i see, gah
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: never used it here, just thought I'd skim it out
[11:57] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  or at least its useing some of the dbus features of that global menu from what i recall reading
[11:57] <LinuxMonkey> lol I havent found one good use for the HUD yet.lol
[11:57] <Dr_willis> for 'finding obscure apps and menu items' hud is very handy
[11:57] <stefg> mbroeker: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel and choose gnome classic at login .... as if nothing ever changed (except you need to press <alt><alt gr> to edit the panel)
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: i'll see if I can change the binding to scroll lock or something equally obscure
[11:58] <Dr_willis> cant say that i ever accidently activate it.
[11:58] <laumogay> why i have to do sudo su in ubuntu unlike other distro where i just have to do su???
[11:58] <mbroeker> stefg, no, i want to use unity. i like it.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: I only use around 6 or 7 apps, most stuff I do in guake :)
[11:58] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo su is very wrong
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: because the root account is disabled
[11:58] <laumogay> ThinkT510, i do it all the time
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: use:  sudo -i  instead for an (i)nteractive sudo
[11:59] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo -i is the more correct way to get a root terminal
[11:59] <laumogay> ActionParsnip, not gksudo?
[11:59] <mbroeker> stefg, press the windows key in ubuntu 11.x and you will see a page with default apps. in 12.04 its gone
[11:59] <ThinkT510> laumogay: gksudo is for launching graphical apps
[11:59] <jenenliu> sudo -i is the right way
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: you can use gksudo if you like, just don't use sudo for GUI apps like gedit and nautilus
[12:00] <jenenliu> admin
[12:00] <stefg> mbroeker: ah, now i understand.... i dodged everything after 10.04 , so i only know unity in its 12.04 incarnation. But i used some ppa to get a intellihide launcher bar
[12:01] <sirknight> how to find out my external ip?
[12:01] <laumogay> ActionParsnip, what is the difference between sudo su and sudo -i?i dont understand sorry for my noobism
[12:01] <gry> ActionParsnip: that didn't help
[12:01] <gry> ActionParsnip: (with the connection failed)
[12:01] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo -i sets the environment more appropriately
[12:02] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo su doesn't, which could mess up application settings
[12:02] <LinuxMonkey> sirknight: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: sudo -i   uses your users profile and settings, sudo su   uses roots, which is blank
[12:02] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: Go to Google search and enter "show my ip address" !!
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: www.ipchicken.com
[12:02] <stefg> mbroeker: http://omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/enable-dodge-unity-launcher-ubuntu-12-04/
[12:02] <sab> i would like to customize latest ubuntu 12.4 lts with couple of packages can some one tell me which tool i can use to customize the iso i tried uck but it does not work with new ubuntu 12.4
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: IP=`wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com`; echo $IP
[12:04] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: Or, if you're on a gateway machine, something as simple as ifconfig ppp0
[12:04] <laumogay> i want to organise my unity bar shortcuts myunity does not seems to do that how can i organize my shortcuts???
[12:04] <ThinkT510> laumogay: drag and drop
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: if you want to re-aarange the icons, click and hold on an icon and you can drag them up and down
[12:05] <dennis__> stefg, nothing seems to work. i rebooted.. can you help me ouy i am running out of time
[12:05] <Yusuke> so #ubuntu is the largest channel in freenode
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Yusuke: probably....
[12:06] <laumogay> when i drag it only moves my bar and not my icons (im in ubuntu 2d)
[12:06] <Yusuke> how to do CLI tiling in ubuntu? any tutorial
[12:07] <Artemius23> I have a question about installing overgrowth at linux
[12:07] <stefg> dennis__: i have very little experience with macs, and acting under time pressure is counterproductive in that case. I don't know what you tried, and all i could offer is a (time consuming) systematic approach to troubleshooting
[12:07] <mbroeker> laumogay, unity-2d is not able to rearrange the icons. you have to do it with dconf-editor :)
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Yusuke: what's tiling for a CLI? You mean multiple windows?
[12:07] <ThinkT510> Artemius23: overgrowth?
[12:07] <Artemius23> yeap
[12:07] <Artemius23> I installed wine
[12:07] <Artemius23> and downloaded winetricks
[12:07] <ThinkT510> !appdb | Artemius23
[12:07] <laumogay> when people say unity is shit i understand them now....(sry for troll)
[12:08] <stefg> dennis__: i might even be more time economical to save your data and resinstall . ETA for an install: 20 minutes. ETA for debugging : 3 hours
[12:08] <mbroeker> Artemius23, install playonlinux and play and install from within playonlinux. makes your life easier
[12:08] <oCean> laumogay: mind your language here
[12:08] <ThinkT510> laumogay: i've never used unity2d, pleasantly suprised by the normal one though
[12:09] <sab> which tool can be used to customize ubuntu 12.4 so that one can add/remove required software and customize. uck seems to not support customizing ubuntu 12.4
[12:09] <Dr_willis> !remaster
[12:10] <ThinkT510> sab: don't like the software centre? try synaptic
[12:10] <Dr_willis> sab,  i think  some of those tools are needing updated for 12.04
[12:10] <sirknight> LinuxMonkey, IntuitiveNipple ActionParsnip  thanks !!
[12:10] <ThinkT510> sab: oh sorry, didn't realise you meant the cd
[12:10] <sab> i need to do lot of customization as well hence will need to get bash access
[12:12] <sab> i want to edit latest ubuntu 12.4 LTS iso and install my own software and make it with 700 MB by removing some of the audio/video files etc. and adding my required applications we used to use uck but uck seems to be giving an error
[12:12] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  thanks!!! now i can look up my ever chaning ip
[12:14] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: You could add a script to /etc/update-motd.d/ to fetch it every time you login
[12:14] <bibic682> Hello,   If I upgrade to 11.04.....do I lose my  old school style desktop?
[12:14] <sirknight> you can????!!
[12:15] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: yes. try man update-motd
[12:15] <dennis__> stefg, i am tired of it, gonna go for full reinstall. thank you
[12:15] <ThinkT510> bibic682: 11.04 still has gnome2, but support will end
[12:15] <LinuxMonkey> sirknight: you can also use services like no-ip.com and provide yourself with a non changing hostname that will keep up with your external ip
[12:15] <ThinkT510> bibic682: you are better off finding an alternative that suits you
[12:16] <stefg> bibic682: rather install 12.04 (11.04 will be phased out in only 6 months) , install gnome-panel and use gnome-classic
[12:17] <gaelfx> I'm an idiot
[12:17] <bibic682> is gnome-panel a stand alone application I install from software center?
[12:17] <ThinkT510> gaelfx: we all have those moments
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: join the club, it happens to us all! :D
[12:18] <apan> Anyone here thats using/used to install/config vsftpd on ubuntu server 11.10? (apologizes if its considered off topic)
[12:18] <ThinkT510> !notunity | bibic682
[12:18] <ronspirin> hi, can anyone tell me what ubuntu precise's defualt filesystem is? I'm using custom installation mode for various reasons, but want to go with the standard fs for the system partition
[12:18] <Arnold> bibic682, not exactly, but it will install the rest of the dependency that it needs along wtih gnome-panel.
[12:18] <jrib> ronspirin: should be ext4
[12:18] <stefg> bibic682:  i don't know how it is represented in software-center (i use synaptic), but it will pull all the dependencies in that you need for a gnome2-like desktop
[12:18] <ronspirin> jrib: you're sure it's not btrfs?
[12:19] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: so the problem was that there were apparently two ways to boot my USB; one with UEFI and one without, and I kept doing it with UEFI and apparently Ubiquity couldn't figure out how to install that. So yeah, I'm an idiot
[12:19] <ThinkT510> ronspirin: btrfs is still in development
[12:19] <bibic682> sounds like a plan....thanks for the help all
[12:19] <ronspirin> kthx ThinkT510 and jrib
[12:19] <LinuxMonkey> ronspirin: its ext4 and i just looked at my default system L)
[12:19] <ronspirin> LinuxMonkey: thanks :)
[12:19] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: great u have it sorted
[12:20] <Dr_willis> gaelfx,  i think the UEFI one appears due to some new grub/syslinux features. I see the same thing. but i never tried the UEFI one. :)
[12:20] <gaelfx> Dr_willis: well, apparently you are cleverer than I
[12:20] <gaelfx> :P no big surprises there
[12:21] <Dr_willis> gaelfx,  the UEFI option was a the bottom of the list i thought. :) so im not sure why you tried it first.
[12:21] <LinuxMonkey> anyone know if the bug Unknown LVM metadata headers has been fixed yet. lol
[12:21] <gaelfx> Dr_willis: I didn't even look at the other one
[12:21] <kapz> I am stuck with on screen keyboard whebever my screen locks even after disabling it from control center. how do i get rid of it?
[12:21] <Dr_willis> ive edited the syslinux configs on the live-usb setups befor. ;) to tweak things.   perhaps someday it will start using grub2
[12:22] <Dr_willis> brb
[12:22] <sab> i am waiting for the answer how to customize new 12.4 LTS i tried using uck but it does nt work
[12:22] <ThinkT510> !remaster | sab
[12:22] <gaelfx> kapz: you have to open onboard settings and choose the option not to show it when screen is locked
[12:22] <gaelfx> kapz: you just couldn't resist opening OnBoard, could you? :P
[12:22] <laumogay> where can i find aircrack-ng repositary does it still exist or i will have to compile ?
[12:24] <gaelfx> laumogay: looks like it ain't in the repos, sorry
[12:24] <kapz> gaelfx, :)
[12:24] <LinuxMonkey> nvm on my previous question, i just realized its eighter fixed or I fixed it. not giving me the errors no more :)
[12:25] <stefg> laumogay: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1892695&page=2
[12:25] <kapz> gaelfx, do you know how do I get my lightdm "new" settings, the one from 12.04? I upgraded but the behaviour of lightdm is the same
[12:26] <gaelfx> kapz: what do you mean re: new settings?
[12:27] <kapz> gaelfx, in my new(fresh) installs the lightdm changes it's background to the desktop wallpaper, but it doesn't on the upgraded box...
[12:28] <gaelfx> kapz: I don't know how to do that, sorry :S
[12:28] <dr_willis> Kapz. Useing encrypted home on one?
[12:29] <gaelfx> bbl
[12:30] <IntuitiveNipple> kapz: The fix is to Change Desktop Background, select another background, then return to the one you want. That sorted it for me
[12:31] <stefg> Let me have some poll: until now my home network was nfs v3 based (better transfer rates than samba) . Having installed 12.04 i could either install nfs-kernel server, use samba or plain ftp. (sftp is painfully slow on Atom CPUs). security is not so much a concern, my WLAN is pretty safe, and there are no untrusted clients in the LAN. What would you folks do?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> !poll
[12:31] <kiran_> can anyone solve my problem
[12:32] <kapz> IntuitiveNipple, you mean at login screen?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> kiran_  begin with a question, that helps
[12:32] <kapz> dr_willis, no
[12:32] <ThinkT510> kiran_: pretty difficult if we don't know the problem
[12:33] <lotrpy> hello, does the recent samba bug effect ubuntu 12.04 clean install(I choose samba server) or not?
[12:33] <BongPh> #xubuntu
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> lotrpy  the recent samba bug?
[12:34] <jrib> lotrpy: "recent samba bug" is too vague...
[12:34] <poodler> Hi, I tried installing a game in wine on Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit, but wine wants to use 32-bit opengl
[12:34] <kiran_> i tried to install ubuntu-12.04 alongside windows 7 home premium but i got an error message stating look up this for more info " c:\users\appdata\local\temp\wubi-11.04-rev211.log"
[12:35] <lotrpy> I watched MonkeyDust and jrib, sorry, let me check it to see whether I can provide more detail information
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> kiran_  wubi?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> kiran_  ok, i see it now, wubi is an installation *inside* windows, not alongside it
[12:36] <kiran_> wubi-12.04-rev266.log
[12:36] <lotrpy> this samba bug http://lwn.net/Articles/491516/ Remote root hole in Samba
[12:36] <lotrpy> it posted April 10, 2012, so I can naively think it's ok for 12.04 user?
[12:37] <jrib> lotrpy: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1423-1/
[12:37] <kasii> ActionParsnip, check this  http://imagebin.org/211096
[12:37] <kiran_> what does that error mean
[12:37] <stefg> lotrpy: i recall security fixes coming in while i read the article .... so i guess that should be history
[12:38] <kasii> http://imagebin.org/211096
[12:38] <kasii> ActionParsnip, check this  http://imagebin.org/211096
[12:38] <lotrpy> jrib and stefg, thanks for the information.
[12:38] <jrib> lotrpy: that doesn't mention 12.04, but you can read apt-get changelog samba about the specific CVE
[12:39] <ThinkT510> kasii: 10.10 is no longer supported, use a supported release
[12:39] <lotrpy> oh, I had a Ubuntu 8.04 Destop x86 version, I stop the samba service at the moment, and the apt-get update system is broken...
[12:39] <Trel> Is there any reason (other than misconfiguration on my end) where trying to login to a Samba share that needs authentication doesn't work from a Windows 7 PC?
[12:39] <kasii> ThinkT510,  i need a help
[12:39] <ThinkT510> lotrpy: 8.04 is only supported for sever now
[12:39] <ThinkT510> server
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> kasii  10.10 is no longer supported, no help here, upgrade first
[12:40] <lotrpy> oh, jrib, oh, Let me check it
[12:40] <stefg> !samba
[12:40] <mbroeker> Trel, security settings in windows can prevent it: check /var/log/samba/***
[12:40] <sirknight> IntuitiveNipple,  LinuxMonkey  thanks for showing me options
[12:40] <Trel> [2012/05/04 23:11:12.429629, 1] smbd/service.c:678(make_connection_snum)
[12:40] <Trel> create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[12:40] <Trel> a lot of that
[12:40] <ThinkT510> kasii: for us to help you, you need to use a supported release
[12:40] <lotrpy> ThinkT510, yes, but I only know this difference when everything is too late...(to me) , :)
[12:40] <stefg> Trel: samba users are different from shell users ....
[12:41] <kasii> MonkeyDust,  if not supported why did u  give it to that time
[12:41] <Trel> stefg: I'm aware of that, I used smbpasswd -a
[12:41] <LinuxMonkey> !eol | kasii
[12:41] <stefg> Trel: ok, one point ruled out
[12:41] <mbroeker> Trel, what's your username, the name with which you want to connect?
[12:41] <Trel> digicam
[12:41] <kiran_> does ubuntu work with windows 7 home premium
[12:41] <mbroeker> Trel, sudo smbpasswd -a digicam
[12:42] <kasii> linux4u, eol what does it mean
[12:42] <Trel> I just told stefg, I've done that
[12:42] <mbroeker> ok
[12:42] <Trel> kasii end of life
[12:42] <ThinkT510> kiran_: your question doesn't make sense, you can dual-boot if thats what you want
[12:42] <poodler> anyone who can tell me how to install 32bit opengl support in 64bit ubuntu for wine?
[12:42] <ThinkT510> kasii: use a supported release
[12:43] <sirknight> IntuitiveNipple,  LinuxMonkey  no-ip isnt working i put the a no vaule in the spot of update ip timer and then it failed to install/bad install so how to redo the install?
[12:43] <kasii> ThinkT510, but  i dont other version of ubuntu cuz its have some buggs
[12:43] <ThinkT510> kiran_: what do you need help with?
[12:43] <kasii> Trel,  shutup
[12:43] <kiran_> ubuntu is not getting installed
[12:43] <ThinkT510> kasii: if you use 10.10 then you are on your own
[12:43] <tanner> hello
[12:44] <tanner> anyone there
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> kasii  your ubuntu version is not supported and you're rude to other users, watch it
[12:44] <stefg> Trel: could the Win7 client be configured to use AD?
[12:44] <ThinkT510> kiran_: if its wubi i can't help, i don't use wubi
[12:45] <kiran_> ok
[12:45] <kasii> monkeydust     what is the need of  using  those upgraded one
[12:45] <kiran_> is there any one who knows about wubi installer
[12:45] <neweruser1> hello??
[12:45] <neweruser1> I need help please regarding installing ubunut
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> kasii  because the repos of 10.10 are no longer active
[12:45] <ThinkT510> kasii: seriously, use a supported release and we can help you
[12:46] <Trel> stefg: definitely not
[12:46] <kasii> MonkeyDust, ThinkT510   what is the need of  using  those upgraded one
[12:46] <neweruser1> anyone can help me install ubuntu
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| neweruser1
[12:46] <Trel> I'm install smbclient right now to see if logging in with that fails too
[12:46] <LinuxMonkey> kasii: 1) security updates. do i need say more
[12:46] <ThinkT510> !releases | kasii
[12:46] <neweruser1> I want to install unbutu on my windows computer
[12:46] <neweruser1> but I dont  want to lose windows
[12:47] <mbroeker> Trel, http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Windows7 try the first registry settings block
[12:47] <kasii> linux4u, yes say more about it
[12:47] <stefg> neweruser1: having a backup is the best insurance first of all :-)
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> neweruser1  dual boot is what you want, you need free sapce on your harddrive, in which you can install ubuntu alongside windows
[12:47] <ThinkT510> !partitioning | neweruser1
[12:48] <neweruser1> cna you guide me
[12:48] <jalal> hey guys some one help me plzzz
[12:48] <gry> jalal, with?
[12:48] <neweruser1> I Have 1 500gb hdd, it has a seperate 70gb partition by windows
[12:48] <neweruser1> how do i tell ubuntu to install there
[12:48] <jalal> when i was upgrading my system mistakly system shutdown
[12:48] <gry> neweruser1, check out what ubottu said. it has all the info
[12:48] <stefg> neweruser1: please take a backup of your windows before trying to change the partition layout of your disk
[12:49] <neweruser1> gry the link is not working
[12:49] <jalal> now ubuntu not starting ..only purpel screen
[12:49] <gry> neweruser1: aaah
[12:49] <jalal> plzzz help me
[12:49] <deamosreapos> mbroeker do you happen to know if theres an issue with an driver for geforce cards?
[12:49] <Trel> mbroeker: would that apply if I'm just trying to connect to a share, and NOT a domain, it's a workgroup setting
[12:49] <jalal> gry with ubuntu
[12:49] <gry> neweruser1, use https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/switching/C/installing-partitioning.html
[12:50] <jalal> anyone will help me also or not?
[12:50] <stefg> !ask
[12:50] <deamosreapos> Jalal im looking into something similar,
[12:50] <jalal> yeah,only purperl colour
[12:50] <bfhyqy> hi everone if i can know what client you use
[12:50] <jalal> not starting after update
[12:50] <mbroeker> Trel, yes, it's a domain setting, but i would try it. you can reset it on windows, if it does not help
[12:50] <deamosreapos> jalal just wondering if you got a similar graphic card? You got a geforce card?
[12:51] <Xinul_> oh, just a simple question: how can I order cheese to use /dev/video1 ?
[12:51] <jalal> no
[12:51] <jalal> i have ati
[12:51] <deamosreapos> jalal then I dont know whatsoever :) better ask someone else sorry :)
[12:51] <jalal> no problem..
[12:52] <Trel> No effect
[12:52] <mbroeker> deamosreapos, the nvidia driver does not play well with the nouveau driver and your Xorg.0.log told me that you have mixed it
[12:52]  * hacermacer i need root user who gime me pls ?
[12:52] <stefg> !root
[12:52] <sirknight> kasii whats the fuss?
[12:52] <deamosreapos> mbroeker aah that is a good thing to know, but how can I switch that arround then? (sorry kinda noob with drivers and such)
[12:53] <kiran_> can anyone solve installation problem of ubuntu inside windows 7
[12:53] <neweruser1> I dont understand what im reading
[12:53] <ThinkT510> sirknight: he left, he was using 10.10 and refuses to upgrade/fresh install
[12:53] <neweruser1> it doesnt tell me how to do it
[12:53] <neweruser1> and does it say i will lose my windows data?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> hacermacer: run:  sudo -i   root is yours
[12:53] <mbroeker> deamosreapos, nomodet in /etc/default/grub, and create a file /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf: option nouveau nomodeset=1 blacklist nouveau
[12:55] <elgaton> kiran_: could you please open the file mentioned in the error message (that is, c:\users\appdata\local\temp\wubi-11.04-rev211.log) to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the link back here?
[12:56] <gry> neweruser1, ok.. you would just want to follow the graphical installer, and point it to the free partition.. backup your windows data first (just in case) and then try it out
[12:56] <sirknight> ThinkT510,  what did he want ? dis like when ppl do that.. WE ARE VOLuNTEeRS   here and dont get paid... to help you
[12:56] <neweruser1> yes gry but how?
[12:56] <gry> neweruser1, download ubuntu, burn it to a CD, reboot computer into that
[12:56] <neweruser1> i am in windows with my ubuntu CD is inside
[12:56] <sirknight> ThinkT510, sry about the capps laggy on my side
[12:56] <gry> !install
[12:56] <neweruser1> what do i after?
[12:56] <ThinkT510> sirknight: wondering why something didn't install, problem with his repos, told him several times 10.10 is end of life
[12:56] <hacermacer> !root
[12:57] <gry> neweruser1: yea.. then reboot, computer would start itself from the cd
[12:57] <ronspirin> neweruser1: reboot and start from the cd
[12:57] <neweruser1> can u just take me though the process
[12:57] <neweruser1> i wont know what to do after im in ubuntu live cd
[12:57]  * hacermacer who give me a shell ?
[12:57] <gry> neweruser1, it'll be graphical.. easy to understand.. check out www.youtube.com, 'install ubuntu' there :)
[12:57] <ronspirin> neweruser1: you'll have to restart your computer. since you probably currently use that computer, no :P
[12:57] <stefg> neweruser1: the installer will ask you the right questions
[12:57] <gry> hacermacer, please, don't spam
[12:58] <neweruser1> ok so it will ask my if i want to use an existing windows partition?
[12:58] <gry> hacermacer, this is a linux distro support channel
[12:58] <ThinkT510> hacermacer: seriously, more often than not you don't need a root shell, if you don't know what you are doing please don't use a root shell
[12:58] <gry> neweruser1, yes, the installer would display your partitions and ask which one to use for Ubuntu
[12:58] <ronspirin> neweruser1: there will be an option to install ubuntu and windows side by side, enabeling you to choose which system to start each time you swithc the computer on
[12:58] <sirknight> neweruser1,  play with it!! linux is the few os to let you "try before you buy in"
[12:58] <neweruser1> oh ok 1 last question
[12:58] <gry> ThinkT510, he's looking for a shell for eggdrop and psybnc, in another channel we share
[12:59] <neweruser1> does ubuntu work on  AMD A6-3670K
[12:59] <stefg> neweruser1: and backups are a good idea anyway
[12:59] <deamosreapos> mbroeker done those things, now I should reboot and see the result? Should I reboot with the HDMI cable in or try it with just the VGA cable?
[12:59] <gaelfx> I've got Broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card, I'm using the STA driver, and my connection is only 65mbps, shouldn't I be able to connect at 150mbps?
[12:59] <ThinkT510> gry: oh, sorry
[12:59] <sirknight> neweruser1,  look this way i can help you
[12:59] <gry> np
[12:59] <hacermacer> i now what to do with shell i make eggdrop and psybnc
[12:59] <compdoc> hacermacer make troll noise
[12:59] <hacermacer> :))
[13:00] <neweruser1> Does ubuntu work in  AMD A6-3670K though?
[13:00] <neweruser1> 64bit
[13:00] <neweruser1> 8gb DDR3 1600mhz ram
[13:00] <compdoc> neweruser1, try booting a live cd and see
[13:00] <mbroeker> deamosreapos, yes.
[13:00] <ronspirin> neweruser1: but as sirknight pointed out, ubuntu can run off the cd if you just want to see what it looks like. of cause, you cant save any data or permanently install software on the cd :P
[13:00] <raelsam> hi ! what's the best software for backup on ubuntu ?
[13:00] <gaelfx> neweruser1: I'm running it on an E-450 right now, I can't see why it wouldn't work on that proc
[13:00] <compdoc> neweruser1, use the newest ubuntu, tho
[13:00] <neweruser1> yes i downloaded the latest 64bit 2 days ago
[13:00] <stefg> neweruser1: it should do... you are going to boot a Live CD, so you'll see before installation
[13:00] <compdoc> what happens>
[13:00] <compdoc> ?
[13:00] <John____> Hi everyone
[13:00] <neweruser1> Ok i will try it now then
[13:01] <ronspirin> neweruser1: good luck
[13:01] <neweruser1> thanks
[13:01] <sirknight> neweruser1,so what version number do you have?
[13:01] <stefg> !backup | raelsam
[13:01] <sirknight> john__ hi
[13:01] <raelsam> ohhh thank you r
[13:01] <kiran_> 05-05 12:44 INFO   root: [13:02] <raelsam> two i should have try google first ! sorry !
[13:02] <sirknight> TINyURL!! that thing!!
[13:02] <hacermacer> google is not safe !
[13:02] <Meilenstein> hello
[13:02] <elgaton> kiran_: Could you paste the contents into paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:02] <sirknight> hi
[13:03] <elgaton> !paste | kiran_
[13:03] <John____> I am using Ubuntu 11.10. i want to upgrade it to 12.10 final version but i have cd of 12.04 beta version. so i want to ask if i upgrade my ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 beta from cd then what will happen to my system. may i loose all installed software?
[13:03] <raelsam> ^^ . is it a convention to put an '!' in front of command name ?
[13:03] <raelsam> i'm neewbie to irc
[13:04] <raelsam> and many thing else !
[13:04] <ThinkT510> raelsam: ! invokes a command to the bot
[13:04] <ThinkT510> !bot | raelsam
[13:04] <sirknight> neweruser1 are you here?
[13:04] <raelsam> !help
[13:04] <raelsam> !patience
[13:04] <ThinkT510> !botabuse | raelsam
[13:04] <John____> I am using Ubuntu 11.10. i want to upgrade it to 12.10 final version but i have cd of 12.04 beta version. so i want to ask if i upgrade my ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 beta from cd then what will happen to my system. may i loose all installed software?
[13:04] <elgaton> John____: Don't upgrade to the beta if possible, try to upgrade directly to the final version instead.
[13:05] <stefg> !upgrade | john__
[13:05] <jrib> John____: there is no 12.10 final
[13:05] <ThinkT510> John____: you don't need a cd to upgrade
[13:05] <raelsam> sorry ! now i understand i should ask it in private conversation ^^'
[13:05] <elgaton> jrib: I think it was a typo
[13:05] <John____> elgaton if i upgarde then can i losse my all installed software?
[13:05] <barf> I made a memory stick from the amd64/Mac iso, it boots on my macbookair4,2 but not on my macbookpro5,5
[13:06] <kiran_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/   i pasted log file  here but the   page is just loading
[13:06] <ThinkT510> raelsam: yeah, this channel can get rather busy
[13:06] <elgaton> John____: In either case you won't - make sure you have an active Internet connection though for Ubuntu to download the updated program versions.
[13:06] <jrib> elgaton: if you follow ubottu's upgrade instructions, your programs and settings should persist.  But you should have backups anyway, regardless of whether you are upgrading or not
[13:06] <gry> sirknight, no, newuser1 seems not here
[13:07] <johnny53287> if you installed programms from none ubuntu repos, then maybe you loose some programms
[13:07] <barf> How come? Do I need to download a different image for macbookpro5,5?
[13:07] <raelsam> the '!' is so awesome !
[13:07] <sirknight> gry,  thanks, he might of listened and is trying out the os;) yea
[13:08] <gaelfx> raelsam: what's even awesomer is that you can pm ubottu and it will answer you without putting it in the channel :D
[13:08] <stefg> :-)
[13:08] <sirknight> raelsam,  did you need help?
[13:08] <jal> i can not start my ubuntu after update can anybody help me
[13:09] <raelsam> gaelfx : yeah i'm flooding it in private
[13:09] <gry> jal, what happens when you try to?
[13:09] <jal> i update
[13:09] <raelsam> sirknight : no thanks
[13:09] <gaelfx> I've got Broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card, I'm using the STA driver, and my connection is only 65mbps, shouldn't I be able to connect at 150mbps?
[13:09] <gry> jal, what happens when you try to start ubuntu now?
[13:09] <jal> then reboot..and now there is purper screen cant start
[13:09] <jal> purpul screen only
[13:09] <gry> jal, press 'esc', does more info show up
[13:09] <gry> ?
[13:09] <jal> nothing
[13:09] <sirknight> jal tell the channel inton of detail whats happening.. /what do you see
[13:10] <gry> ok, please wait around, jal, someone could tell how to retreieve logs
[13:10] <sirknight> raelsam,  ok good luck
[13:10] <woozly> how to output only directories with ls ?
[13:10] <virpara> hello i cloned my drive where ubuntu was installed(in sda6) with Clonezilla and deleted that partition(sda6) and created partition(sda3) with big size then recovered the partition sda3 with the image i have created (of sda6). everything works fine but the problem is when i try to mount new sda6 partition i get this error Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[13:10] <virpara> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is already mounted on /
[13:10] <virpara> mount failed
[13:10] <ThinkT510> woozly: man ls
[13:10] <stefg> woozly: man ls knows that
[13:11] <jal> there no more information
[13:11] <jal> only purlpel screen
[13:11] <stefg> virpara: are you on the machine with that problem?
[13:11] <jrib> virpara: how do you try to mount it?
[13:11] <gry> jal, yes.. the hard drive might have logs.. someone here can help to retreieve that data
[13:11] <sirknight> gry, jal  restart it again and this time press the up key until you see the black screen
[13:12] <virpara> stefg yup, i am
[13:12] <jal> after what?
[13:12] <badabum> I have a problem with wireless. I disabled it a long time ago (don't know where, definitely not in the BIOS) and now I can't get it back on. The keyboard shortcut (fn+f12) does nothing, the network manager says "wireless is disabled". " sudo rfkill unblock all " does nothing.
[13:12] <raelsam> skirnight : thanks ! i still have a question : i'm using pidgin i don't know if it's specific to this software but how do the application understand that a message is to me (it pop up a notifacation)? my name in the message or a specific command ?
[13:12] <lotrpy> it looks 11.10's trash-cli the man command trash changed to 12.04's trash-put?
[13:12] <virpara> jrib, with disk utility
[13:12] <jal> after blank screen what should i do?
[13:13] <gry> jal, sirknight asks to press up key and hold it
[13:13] <progre55> hi guys. I've got ubuntu 12.04 installed. Every time the screen is locked, the fans go crazy, and if I leave it for a while, I get "Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 13)" logs in my dmesg. Any suggestions on how to diagnose what's happening, please?
[13:13] <sirknight> jal,  restart/asap press the "up key"
[13:13] <stefg> virpara: having  a fdisk -l listing on paste.ubuntu.com would help, along with the output of 'sudo blkid' and the /etc/fstab of the system in question
[13:13] <gry> jal, not after the screen, but rather as soon as you start booting
[13:13] <mbroeker> badabum, do your laptop keys work properly
[13:13] <badabum> mbroeker: i believe so, all the others work fine
[13:13] <sirknight> gry,  thanks
[13:13] <jal> mean like bios?
[13:14] <mbroeker> badabum, ok: and the firmware gets loaded properly?
[13:14] <jal> i type up key asa like we type in bios?
[13:14] <sirknight> something like that but its a meus type in linux
[13:14] <virpara> stefg fdisk -l gives nothing!
[13:14] <stefg> virpara: sudo fdisk -l (need to be root)
[13:14] <ThinkT510> virpara: sudo fdisk -l
[13:15] <sirknight> root!
[13:15] <virpara> stefg i am such a dumb
[13:15] <sirknight> !root
[13:15] <Wejq> i haven't got my normal unity-ubuntu-like nautilus look, how to get it ? http://imgur.com/0sJlS i mean that instead of normal, and text under my icons changed to black that i cant see it on black wallpaper
[13:15] <stefg> virpara: we're going to change that in a moment :-)
[13:16] <Wejq> i think that it's one thing to turn on/something because i had that problem recently
[13:16] <sirknight> jal .... ?
[13:16] <jal> yes sir
[13:16] <mbroeker> badabum, anyway: my laptop has a bios option enabled or last state: i switched it to enabled, installed linux-firmware-nonfree and rebooted and it just worked. after that, i switched it back to last state.
[13:16] <badabum> mbroeker: how do I find that out? I know it worked some time ago, but then I disabled it somehow because it annoyed me that it was on at every startup and I didn't need it. I am currently in windows, because the Wifi works there (can't be disabled in bios then, right?)
[13:16] <sirknight> jal well how it going?
[13:16] <jal> i type up key like we do for going in bios?
[13:17] <jal> up arrow key
[13:17] <kumar> hi
[13:17] <sirknight> yes
[13:17] <kumar> need help regarding wubi installer
[13:17] <gry> jal, yes, up arrow
[13:17] <jal> from this pc will start?
[13:17] <gry> kumar, just ask, in one line if possible please
[13:17] <sirknight> asap when you boot untill you see something happen
[13:17] <ghabit> Hello. Just installed minidlna server. How to add it to autostart?
[13:18] <izissise> hi, how do I use libre office auto completation ?
[13:18] <Wejq> i will appreciate any help guys xD
[13:18] <jal> i mean wil be boot normal?coz if i will do that i will discconet from irc
[13:18] <gry> jal, yes, as soon as you boot.. press up arrow and hold it until the screen becomes black
[13:18] <stefg> ghabit: /etc/rc.local
[13:18] <alexandros123> Hello people!
[13:18] <badabum> mbroeker: do you know what I can run to know where the issue is coming from, without having to check back here at every command? because I'd have to reboot to windows every time to get online.
[13:18] <gry> jal, well, it can help to use another computer for chatting here
[13:18] <jal> whenscreen become black what shoud i do?
[13:18] <alexandros123> i have a problem with my resolution
[13:18] <sirknight> gry,  thanks again
[13:18] <kumar> gaot an error while installing ubuntu 12.04 inside windows using wubi.exe
[13:18] <alexandros123> my max res is 1920x1080
[13:18] <sirknight> !screen
[13:18] <jal> just instruct me here sir
[13:18] <jal> i will do that
[13:19] <jal> what after black screen
[13:19] <sirknight> rrrr you bot!
[13:19] <progre55> Can someone help me out, please. When I lock screen (or it gets locked after a timeout=10mins) it hangs or smth, and the fans go crazy, and the cpu temp raises above threshold. Any suggestions, please?
[13:19] <alexandros123> i have black lines
[13:19] <kumar> gry: can u help
[13:19] <alexandros123> around my screen
[13:19] <virpara> http://paste.ubuntu.com/969099/
[13:19] <gry> jal, to guide you, you would want to find another machine to chat from
[13:19] <izissise> How do I use libre office autocompletation ??
[13:19] <virpara> stefg
[13:19] <stefg> me /looks
[13:19] <mbroeker> badabum, boot into linux, enter dmesg > dmesg.txt and paste the dmesg.txt to a pastebin
[13:19] <mbroeker> !paste
[13:20] <Pooky5> Hi guys, did someone know, how fix this error? "couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so"
[13:20] <izissise> How do I use libre office autocompletation ??
[13:20] <alexandros123> i have black lines are my screen
[13:20] <gry> izissise, try #libreoffice
[13:20] <virpara> stefg i got it. it is because of /etc/fstab lol
[13:20] <GeorgeJ> How does one replace multiple parts of a string without calling replace(from, to) multiple times?
[13:20] <stefg> virpara: your problem is that you use (static) device names inside fstab instead of UUIDs
[13:20] <izissise> thanks
[13:21] <sirknight> jal,  we are trying to see what happens "under the hood" that splash screen your seeing is just a cover/lid so im trying to see to remove it
[13:21] <jrib> GeorgeJ: wrong channel?
[13:21] <gry> izissise, iirc it's you start to type words and libreoffice suggests how to complete
[13:21] <GeorgeJ> jrib: Ooops, indeed.
[13:21] <jal> i dont have another pc sir
[13:21] <gry> jal, do you have a mobile ?
[13:21] <badabum> mbroeker: is that enough? are there any other outputs that may be needed to find out what is wrong?
[13:21] <kumar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/969108/
[13:21] <stefg> virpara: since the info is used for hibernation and intrd as well you should rather replaece teh /dev/sda6 with the UUID. run sudo update-initramfs -u -k all afterwards
[13:21] <jal> i have but no net connection
[13:22] <kumar> here is the error i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/969108/
[13:22] <mbroeker> badabum, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages(if it exists) and dmesg will do
[13:22] <virpara> hey stefg i had figured that out after cat /etc/fstab btw thanks dude
[13:22] <jal> i update system and mess up evrything
[13:22] <sirknight> jal what veriosn do you have?
[13:22] <jal> 12.04
[13:22] <jal> 3.2.6 kernal
[13:22] <Wejq> guuuys ;_;
[13:22] <izissise> Gry , I know but i just don't know wich key to type to acceptate the cmpletation !
[13:22] <stefg> virpara: and your partition table is wrong, too ....
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jal: thats backtrack
[13:22] <sirknight> jal,  ahhh!! i see ...
[13:23] <ThinkT510> kumar: considered dual-booting instead of wubi? wubi really isn't for long-term installations
[13:23] <gry> izissise, enter? tab?
[13:23] <jal> noo
[13:23] <jal> it ubuntu
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> jal: ask in #backtrack-linux
[13:23] <izissise> already try
[13:23] <virpara> stefg how?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[13:23] <jal> it ubuntu sir
[13:23] <izissise> but i'de like to change it to tab
[13:23] <kumar> can u help how t dual boot
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> jal: the Precise kernel is at 3.2.0.23
[13:23] <tutysra> got unmet dependencies error - trying to resolve by running "sudo apt-get intall -f ", I am getting errors with this as well, please help
[13:23] <gry> !dualboot | kumar
[13:23] <mbroeker> +1 :) after 10 hours...
[13:23] <feudov> ciao
[13:23] <feudov> !list
[13:24] <badabum> mbroeker: okay, I'll try. see you soon
[13:24] <sirknight> yes and we are trying to  see that.. i bet its your video card is going wonky
[13:24] <neweruser123> im having problems
[13:24] <sirknight> yes and we are trying to  see that.. i bet its your video card is going wonky jal
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jal: BackTrack 5 R2 kernel has arrived with a brand new 3.2.6 kernel   source: https://dwijaybane.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/upgrading-to-backtrack-5-r2/
[13:24] <gry> izissise, enter does not work and tab does not work?
[13:25] <stefg> virpara: Partition table entries are not in disk order, and if sda6 is now a linux partition that is not represented in the MBR
[13:25] <neweruser123> my keyboard layout is all messed up even tho i chose english, and I can hardly see the ubuntu navigation/home bar
[13:25] <izissise> no:(
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> jal: it's backtrack, you know it's backtrack, you're in the wrong channel
[13:25] <izissise> gry no
[13:25] <gry> izissise, ok
[13:25] <jal> sir
[13:25] <jal> i am using backtrack
[13:25] <deamosreapos> mbroeker tried it, it booted up, once then the same problem kept occuring and I even got a message that there was something wrong something about ingram or so? But its not working as it should
[13:25] <coldlogic> anybody know anything about xbmc, or can point me in the right direction?
[13:25] <jal> i having problem with ubuntu
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> jal: then ask in #backtrack-linux
[13:25] <jal> i am using dual boot
[13:25] <sirknight> newuser123 are you the say fello just 10 min ago that was here.... neweruser1?
[13:25] <jal> i cant boot my ubuntu
[13:25] <mbroeker> deamosreapos, open terminal and enter sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:25] <jal> so i boot from backtrack right no
[13:25] <jal> now
[13:25] <neweruser123> oh yes im neweruser
[13:25] <stefg> virpara: there is an fdisk command to reorder the partition entires... but you should have backups before you apply that
[13:25] <jal> now got it?
[13:26] <mbroeker> deamosreapos, that's the last thing we can do :)
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> jal: you could chroot using backtrack and fix from there
[13:26] <sirknight> newuser123 .... neweruser1?
[13:26] <jal> how?
[13:26] <gry> izissise, 'Enter' works for me
[13:26] <ThinkT510> !enter | jal
[13:26] <coldlogic> how do i change channels?
[13:26] <deamosreapos> mbroeker New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:26] <neweruser123> I think so sirknight i cant remember the number i used but my I.P is the same i believe?
[13:26] <deamosreapos> ill give it a reboot brb
[13:27] <izissise> gry ... for me too :) , I thought I had try
[13:27] <gry> :-)
[13:27] <neweruser123> I was asking about how to install ubuntu on a sep partition ?
[13:27] <izissise> But how can i change the key ?
[13:27] <gry> oh. that's a question for #libreoffice I suspect.
[13:27] <gry> that's pretty specific
[13:27] <coldlogic> run ubuntu live cd, gparted editor, and make a new partition
[13:27] <coldlogic> then install to that
[13:28] <kumar> when i boot the ubuntu cd and choose to install ubuntu alongside windows the disk just opens and got a message "please remove the installation media and close the tray and press enter"
[13:28] <neweruser123> I have 500gb hdd it has 2 partition already for windows
[13:28] <neweruser123> i want to use the 70gb partition available
[13:28] <sirknight> neweruser123, did you have a apu 6 unlock too? you said?
[13:28] <neweruser123> yes aPU A6 3570K
[13:28] <kumar> when i had done that windows is loading
[13:28] <neweruser123> 3670*
[13:28] <sirknight> ok
[13:28] <progre55> Can someone help me out, please. When I lock screen (or it gets locked after a timeout=10mins) it hangs or smth, and the fans go crazy, and the cpu temp raises above threshold. Any suggestions, please?
[13:28] <coldlogic> when i installed from inside the live disc, it allowed me to choose which partition to install too
[13:29] <neweruser123> i have 1 problem at the moment my screen is not showing all the ubuntu stuff
[13:29] <ThinkT510> kumar: you need to set it to boot from cd in bios
[13:29] <neweruser123> the resolution is 1080p
[13:29] <ThinkT510> kumar: i don't think you burned the iso right
[13:29] <tutysra> how to resolve unmet dependencies exception
[13:29] <neweruser123> I cant see the whole ubuntu screen
[13:29] <mbroeker> neweruser123, switch to another resolution and switch back. does this help?
[13:29] <kumar> thinkt510 : how to check it
[13:30] <neweruser123> i tried to go down to 1280x1024
[13:30] <neweruser123> but hardly goes smaller
[13:30] <coldlogic> can anyone see what i type? its all grey on my screen
[13:30] <sirknight> newuser123 so state your full detail question  so others in this channel and jump in and help you
[13:30] <ThinkT510> kumar: how did you burn it? did you just put the iso file on it?
[13:30] <neweruser123> i never had this problem with the ubuntu from 2 years ago
[13:30] <virpara> stefg well i have installed grub2 in sda3 and that is where i have installed ubuntu
[13:30] <kumar> thinkt510: the problem is same with ubuntu 11.04 cd
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> jal: omgubuntu has a guide called: sticking it to grub     it includes a chroot first step
[13:30] <ThinkT510> kumar: you need to burn the iso as an image to the disk
[13:30] <mbroeker> i have this problem with nouveau(nvidia card) on 12.04, neweruser123
[13:30] <izissise> Gry i find how to chnage it , thanks to you !!
[13:30] <ballyhoo_> Hey guys, I am considering trying out Ubuntu 12.04. The main things I use my computer for are browsing, email, video editing and photo manipulation. Do you guys have any advice for me before I take the plunge?
[13:31] <gry> izissise, oo nice :-)
[13:31] <kumar> thinkt510: i burned it usung roxio image burner
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> mbroeker: you can block the module with the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[13:31] <virpara> stefg i use windows bootloader to chainload grub2
[13:31] <ThinkT510> kumar: how exactly? did you just put the iso on it?
[13:31] <coldlogic> ballyhoo_ do it up
[13:31] <coldlogic> there is a lot of good programs fo all that
[13:31] <neweruser123> Ok let me rephrase it, basically Im in live cd, and my ubuntu is set at 1080p but I can see only a glimpse of the side bar with the icons
[13:31] <sirknight> neweruser123,  ubuntu has chage so much that its hard to keep up.. even the core
[13:31] <krababbel> What permissions do I need to set on an autostart file? It is a script file.
[13:31] <jal> i am doing up arrow key
[13:31] <virpara> stefg it means sda3 does not have MBR
[13:31] <jal> i arrange another pc
[13:32] <mbroeker> ActionParsnip, i need nouveau: it works, but the initial resolution is too small: i have written a script which calls xrandr twice and it fixes it
[13:32] <kumar> thinkt510: when i tried ubuntu on my laptop from cd before installng it works fine
[13:32] <mkohler> hi guys, I used pysdm to configure the mount of my partitions. There it says that file can be executed and fstab tells me that it should be mounted "users, user".. |mount| tells me that /dev/sda7 is mounted noexec though. How can I fix that?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> mbroeker: you could make an xorg.conf I guess, are there any bugs reported?
[13:32] <bitonic> I followed this instructions to remove xubuntu and install ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu , but after the "loading" ubuntu screen, nothing shows up. I can switch to a terminal and startx manually
[13:32] <ThinkT510> kumar: hmm
[13:32] <sirknight> newuser123 turn down the setting somewhere on your video card/tv
[13:33] <neweruser123> which setting exactly
[13:33] <neweruser123> I am using HDMI just to let you know
[13:33] <coldlogic> can anyone see me?
[13:33] <ballyhoo_> coldlogic: I primarily use Premiere and Photoshop on Windows. What programs on Ubuntu are there that are similar?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> coldlogic: yes
[13:33] <mkohler> coldlogic: es
[13:33] <bitonic> is it possible that the login manager is not starting for some reason?
[13:33] <sirknight> neweruser123, ok
[13:33] <coldlogic> ok
[13:33] <coldlogic> sweet
[13:33] <kumar> thinkt510: but when i try to install disk just opens up
[13:33] <imetallica> ballyhoo_, for img editing GIMP. For video editing I don't know
[13:33] <sirknight> jal hows it doing?
[13:33] <jal> wait
[13:33] <jal> booting
[13:33] <sirknight> jal,  ok
[13:34] <stefg> virpara: yeah, reordering partition table entries could mess that up... btw the partition table is part of the mbr, i'm not talking of a boot record for grub. But you may consider using grub2 in the mbr to dualboot. grub is easier than BCDedit :-)
[13:34] <neweruser123> ohh it fixed i did the reset on my monitor setting
[13:34] <ThinkT510> kumar: so you can boot the cd into ubuntu but when you launch the installer it ejects the cd?
[13:34] <coldlogic> ballyhoo_  openshot video editor
[13:34] <jwtiyar> i had installed unoffical .deb and i want to remove now , how?
[13:34] <neweruser123> windows had messed up my monitor setting
[13:34] <coldlogic> gimp for image editor
[13:35] <virpara> stefg i liked "grub is easier than BCDedit :-)"
[13:35] <neweruser123> ok so my 2nd question is, the keyboard layout
[13:35] <kumar> thinkt510: yes exactly
[13:35] <jal> yeasssssss sir
[13:35] <ThinkT510> kumar: strange, i've never seen that
[13:35] <sirknight> newuser action is there anything about 1080/720 hd stuff not being supported out of the box... i though i seen a paper about it
[13:35] <coldlogic> the email and stuff in thunderbird by default. decent proggy
[13:35] <jal> now i can login
[13:35] <neweruser123> all the buttons are in random places such as I press the @ and its in place of the "
[13:35] <coldlogic> easy to use
[13:35] <neweruser123> sirknight its ok now my resoultion is fixed
[13:35] <badabum> mbroeker: hey, I just fixed my connection by editing the entry in /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state to "WirelessEnabled=true"
[13:35] <imetallica> ballyhoo_, but I think you should try Ubuntu Studio instead. It's focused on img/video editing
[13:35] <sirknight> newuser123 wel fix your tv
[13:35] <badabum> now it works
[13:36] <badabum> mbroeker: thank you
[13:36] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: ahh, us keyboard layout vs uk?
[13:36] <virpara> stefg,i  added to friend list :)
[13:36] <kumar> thint510: any resolution to that. problem is same with both ubntu 12.04 and 11.04
[13:36] <neweruser123> yes its a UK keyboard but the layout is not familiar
[13:36] <gry> sirknight, by the way can you link/give few keywords on what the up arrow does ? I hear first time
[13:36] <ballyhoo_> imetallica: I'll have a look at that one. Sounds more my thing.
[13:36] <ThinkT510> kumar: i don't know sorry, its never happened to me
[13:36] <kumar> okay
[13:36] <imetallica> !ubuntu studio
[13:37] <kumar> any one who knows abot the issue
[13:37] <coldlogic> i have questions about xbmc. anybody can help me or point me to the correct channel pls?
[13:37] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: yeah, i use uk keyboard but the default is us, when you install it it asks for keyboard layout, don't worry
[13:37] <stefg> !ask | coldlogic
[13:37] <neweruser123> oh ok
[13:38] <jal> i can log in now sir
[13:38] <jal> that you very much
[13:38] <stefg> coldlogic: i just managed to get xbmc-pvr running on my 12.04 machine+
[13:38] <ThinkT510> !yay | jal
[13:38] <neweruser123> I looked at a youtube video it showed how to open Gparted but the menu is different on mine
[13:38]  * gry claps to jal
[13:38] <neweruser123> where is the old menu gone?
[13:38] <jal> thanks evrybody
[13:38] <sirknight> gry, jal so how did you do it?
[13:38] <mbroeker> ActionParsnip, http://pastie.org/3863751
[13:39] <coldlogic> stefg: i got it running. but i see on some sites a way to integrate hulu, but cannot find it in the program add-ons. any ideas?
[13:39] <kumar> gry: can u help me
[13:39] <gry> not yet
[13:39] <deamosreapos> mbroeker one succesfull bootup then I ended up with the following report: missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) anding up ininitramfs
[13:39] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: gnome2 is no longer available, the default layout is unity
[13:39] <jal> nothing i just press up arrow key multiple time
[13:39] <sirknight> coldlogic,  what do you need?
[13:39] <mohangorai> hi everyone need some help with setting my speakers working on my new t420 using 12.04
[13:39] <virpara> stefg how i can make sda6 and sda8 mount every time i log in? i mean what should  be the mount point for them?
[13:39] <neweruser123> unity looks for tablets? or is it for desktops
[13:39] <omegalimit> neweruser123: both
[13:39] <neweruser123> how can i switch back to the old one
[13:39] <jal> thanks for suppoer ..i love ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[13:40] <coldlogic> sirknight i am looking for how to integrate hulu feed to xbmc, but cannot find a way to add it via add-ons in xbmc
[13:40] <saxin> neweruser123: Gnome?
[13:40] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: you don't, gnome2 is dead
[13:40] <krababbel> virpara: create a directory somewhere, usually /mnt/ and edit /etc/fstab
[13:40] <neweruser123> oh
[13:40] <stefg> coldlogic: there are myriads of slightly different builds available for ubuntu .... hulu support should be an addon, have you tried to install it?
[13:40] <mohangorai> can anyone help me out. I am new even in irc, so no idea how to go about asking the question
[13:40] <raelsam> raelsam
[13:40] <nannes> jal: all of us don't :O
[13:40] <omegalimit> neweruser123: you can actually use it again, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:40] <gry> mohangorai, hi, just ask
[13:40] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: there are alternatives though, like gnome3 fallback mode or xfce or lxde
[13:40] <neweruser123> latest ubuntu 64bit
[13:40] <omegalimit> 12.04?
[13:40] <mohangorai> gry thnx
[13:40] <stefg> virpara: that's your music and videao stuff, right?
[13:40] <neweruser123> What is kubuntu is it for me?
[13:40] <mbroeker> ActionParsnip, the default res on this laptop is 270x203 and it gets zoomed to 1024x768. and nouveau initializes only a portion of the screen. after the resize and back to 1024x768, everything works.
[13:40] <mohangorai> so my speakers dont play it out
[13:41] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: kubuntu uses kde
[13:41] <mohangorai> head phones work fine
[13:41] <mbroeker> ActionParsnip, short story. old laptop, nobody will fix this issue, the workaround is just fine :)
[13:41] <neweruser123> What is KDE? a different interface or different OS ?
[13:41] <stefg> !fstab | virpara
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  it looks a bit more like windows
[13:41] <coldlogic> stefg: on one machine i have ubuntu 12.04 and i added it through the software center, on another i have windows 7 and installed it on that as well, and i have a live-disc for xbmcbuntu on a machine with no HD, but cannot find hulu anywhere
[13:41] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: different interface, yes, a desktop environment
[13:42] <imetallica> !KDE | neweruser123
[13:42] <gry> neweruser123, kde/gnome/xfce/lxde - different DEs
[13:42] <sirknight> jal,  :) this happen to me to rotf after hrs of hair pulling and no  help then i got mad and started pushing buttons and then asked the right question and i got mine to work.. what youll normally see is a back screen with words on it...
[13:42] <neweruser123> So I can run all ubuntu stuff in Kubuntu?
[13:42] <gry> yes
[13:42] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: indeed
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  yes, it's just a different 'jacket'
[13:42] <sirknight> jal so your all fine?
[13:42] <neweruser123> Oh ok I see now
[13:42] <omegalimit> neweruser123: check your pms
[13:43] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: they all use the same repos
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  what you see is different, underneath it's the same
[13:43] <mkohler> hi guys, I used pysdm to configure the mount of my partitions. There it says that file can be executed and fstab tells me that it should be mounted "users, user".. |mount| tells me that /dev/sda7 is mounted noexec though. How can I fix that?
[13:43] <stefg> coldlogic: the plugin might not be available for all the different versions/builds. I used the yavdr ppa to get my xbmc, but hulu is out of question for me (no hulu in germany)
[13:43] <neweruser123> Omega what is PMS? and I think I might switch to kubuntu If i cant get the hang of unity in a week or so
[13:43] <omegalimit> Your private messages
[13:43] <omegalimit> I sent you a link
[13:44] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: i must admit though that unity isn't as bad as i thought it would be, xfce is still my favourite though
[13:44] <tutysra> i am getting unmet dependencies issue after installing skype. I tried repairing by running "sudo apt-get intall -f " but it fails after throwing exceptions, I am using ubuntu 64 but I could see lot of 386 packages in the dependency list, how can I resolve this?
[13:44] <stefg> coldlogic: but i could look if something is offered for my version in the addon manager
[13:44] <andybrine> morning
[13:44] <sirknight> coldlogic,  well look at web browsers its a crude way but it works... like chrome(linux version) then get the plug -in
[13:44] <jonne> is there a way to get vnc working reliably nowadays?
[13:44] <andybrine> does anyone know where i can get some decent themes for unity?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> jonne  depends on how skilled you are
[13:45] <penreturns> ;)
[13:45] <jonne> moderately, MonkeyDust
[13:45] <OerHeks> !themes
[13:45] <sirknight> jal  are you still there?
[13:45] <gustyaquino> so this is official?
[13:45] <ThinkT510> sirknight: he left
[13:46] <krababbel> neweruser123: gnome-shell is great too
[13:46] <mohangorai> I am running 12.04 on my new lenovo t420. head phones work just fine but the internal speakers dont play it out. Could anybody help me out fixing the issue?
[13:46] <jonne> i have a laptop that i use as a server, i don't really use vnc to get to it, but it's been years since it worked
[13:46] <ThinkT510> !topic gustyaquino
[13:46] <jonne> decided to try and figure out why that is
[13:46] <ThinkT510> !topic | gustyaquino
[13:46] <stefg> coldlogic: no dice ... i have no hulu addon offerde in xbmc's addon manager . here's why: http://lifehacker.com/5773868/add-hulu-and-hulu-plus-to-xbmc-with-this-add+on
[13:47] <neweruser123> 1 quick question  does android use the linux found in ubuntu ?
[13:47] <abdelix> neweruser123 no
[13:47] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: linux is just a kernel
[13:47] <coldlogic> stefg: thank you.
[13:47] <sirknight> wow mm no thanks you ? after 1//2 of trying to help ?   ...  or karma is here... well cant teach the dead or the unwilling
[13:47] <abdelix> it uses a modified version
[13:47] <gustyaquino> dns servers anyone?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  linu is just a kernel, a distro is everything around that kernel
[13:47] <sirknight> opendns
[13:48] <neweruser123> oh
[13:48] <virpara> stefg brb
[13:48] <krababbel> neweruser123: though there are people who booted ubuntu arm on a mobile I believe.
[13:48] <ThinkT510> gustyaquino: so totally awesome eh?
[13:49] <gustyaquino> what is awesome?
[13:49] <ThinkT510> gustyaquino: dns servers
[13:49] <krababbel> mohangorai: did you look in sound settings?
[13:49] <sirknight> krababbel,  neweruser123  like tables cells  hackable stuff
[13:49] <Fanshawe> Hi all, I need some help with Firefox and Evolution. Both are just eating up disk space and I'm not sure how to make them stop. Can anyone help?
[13:49] <ThinkT510> gustyaquino: how can we help if you just say: dns servers anyone
[13:49] <mohangorai> I am running 12.04 on my new lenovo t420. head phones work just fine but the internal speakers dont play it out. Could anybody help me out fixing the issue? anyone ??
[13:49] <neweruser123> ah ok
[13:50] <neweruser123> is their a way i can switch from ubuntu to kubuntu back and forth to see which is better
[13:50] <coldlogic> mohangorai: had the same problem, googled my sound card and ubuntu 12.04 found a fix through ppa
[13:50] <sirknight> on a live cd?
[13:50] <krababbel> neweruser123: you can choose at login any time
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  yes, you can do that in the menu called lightdm
[13:50] <gustyaquino> ThinlT510: yes they are, when they work.. so you could help me with that?
[13:50] <neweruser123> i only have ubuntu at the moment so i dont need to download the kubuntu right?
[13:50] <sirknight> newuser123 on a live cd?
[13:51] <neweruser123> i am on live cd yes
[13:51] <stefg> !kubuntu
[13:51] <stefg> !kde
[13:51] <jwtiyar> i had installed unoffical .deb and i want to remove now , how?
[13:51] <jrib> jwtiyar: apt-get remove PACKAGE_NAME
[13:51] <ThinkT510> gustyaquino: no, i'm just trying to prompt you to provide details, you haven't told us your problem
[13:52] <sirknight> newuser123  remind you that a quad core and min of 4 gb ram with see you through all the preety stuff that kde has for you
[13:52] <neweruser123> yeah im looking forward to it
[13:52] <gustyaquino> ThinkT510: well the problem is more related to a configuration..
[13:52] <sirknight> whats your hardware specs?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> neweruser123: if you have space, you can install kubuntu on ubuntu and choose at login time which to run
[13:53] <gustyaquino> ThinkT510: see, I have a home server and only one public IP..
[13:53] <ThinkT510> gustyaquino: if you told the channel somebody could help you
[13:53] <anathema_> hi ubuntistas! i have an issue with pidgin, when i first run it it doesnt respond. i must kill it and restart it and it works ok. any idea?
[13:54] <neweruser123> ok while trying to install ubuntu i got this error message "some of the partitions you created are too small..."
[13:54] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  clear up what you mean... the os/desktop?
[13:54] <gustyaquino> ThinkT510: Im new to irc actually..
[13:54] <bastidrazor> anathema_: start it from terminal and see if any errors show, also you may look in ~/.xsession-errors for clues
[13:54] <ThinkT510> gustyaquino: ah, sorry if i'm sounding rude
[13:54] <neweruser123> Im in the partition table I dont know which is my windows and what to delete or keep
[13:55] <gustyaquino> ThinkT510: not at all.. I have been looking the web all week..
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  using gparted? ntfs is windows
[13:55] <ThinkT510> gustyaquino: state your problem all on one line and if anyone knows they'll chip in
[13:55] <gustyaquino> ThinkT510: believe me, you dont want to know what are the common answers
[13:55] <sirknight> oh i thing you tried to do it maunally... go back and make biggerones.. and keep in mind that the updates for the distro will make it a bigger core
[13:55] <neweruser123> monkeydust so i delete the Windows 2nd NTFS partition and use that space right?
[13:55] <stefg> gustyaquino: interesting read: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  don't delete anything if you're not sure
[13:56] <neweruser123> I just delete swap and sda7 and ntfs something which was 70gb
[13:56] <sirknight> neweruser123,  and if you have windows DO NOT DELETE IT..
[13:56] <anathema_> bastidrazor, thanks it says Exiting because another libpurple client is already running.
[13:56] <anathema_>  but is working ok
[13:56] <gustyaquino> stefg: tnx.. im gonna get this right
[13:56] <`prixon> hello
[13:57] <neweruser123> i think windows is Sda2(ntfs) 419gb
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url in the channel
[13:57] <neweruser123> ok
[13:57] <krababbel> mohangorai: you might try in #pulseaudio
[13:57] <sirknight> neweruser123,  because  even those i love linux theres a few apps that only run in windows ... like netflex.. :(
[13:58] <stefg> gustyaquino: that was not meant as a reprehension, just as a kind proposition
[13:58] <gustyaquino> is there a way to filter the feed to let only messages and het rid of the in/out ??
[13:58] <neweruser123> "fdisk -l" ?
[13:58] <stefg> gustyaquino: taht depends on your client
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  sudo fdisk -l
[13:59] <sirknight> MonkeyDust,  i hope you can help him i want to go .. (grolwing belly) ..sigh .. hungery
[13:59] <Guest29955> hi there. Can I ask a short question about the new nvidia-driver (295.49) related to ubuntu 12.04?
[13:59] <gustyaquino> stefg: xcaht on windows..
[13:59] <neweruser123> http://pastebin.com/wp34WJrZ
[13:59] <stefg> gustyaquino: i think xchat can do .... chatzilla calls it conference mode.
[13:59] <neweruser123> I deleted some more sda's and ntfs btw
[14:00] <sirknight> Guest29955,  sure thats why most ppl are here for
[14:00] <Guest29955> Will the nvidia 295.49 driver ever come to the official ubuntu repos?
[14:00] <bbbbbbbb> when I try to start the Amnesia demo, it crashes at the first loading screen. Terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/952375/ - how can I solve the issue? The sound in the menu works fine.
[14:01] <gustyaquino> stefg: is chatzilla a firefox addon?
[14:01] <Guest29955> in jockey (i think it is called so?) i have nvidia-current-updates selected but I am still stuck with nvidia 295.40
[14:01] <sirknight> Guest29955,  personally idk
[14:01] <stefg> gustyaquino: right
[14:01] <CQ> hello, is there a list of tablets that can run ubuntu anywhere? I'm looking for basic web, mail (tbird), and PDF reading, libreoffice would be nice to be able to use...
[14:01] <stefg> !pm > virpara
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  that's three ntfs partitions, normally windows is on sda1, but we have to be sure
[14:02] <Onixs> hello. if i have a binary and its configuration files, what folder can is install to?
[14:02] <Onixs> in*
[14:02] <ThinkT510> !fhs | Onixs
[14:02] <neweruser123> monkeydust Sda2 is 400gb size that must be the windows partition
[14:02] <Onixs> thanks
[14:02] <sirknight> Guest29955,  but if your installing any video driver "ALways try to use the "maunual make .. or make the drive yourself/ when installing it
[14:02] <rdz> hi all. i'm still using evolution as mail client and would like to use the vertical view, but with double lines instead of single lines in the email list. how can i switch back to double lines?
[14:02]  * hacermacer bye m gone
[14:02] <Guest29955> sirknight: even in ubuntu-x-swat the latest nvidia driver is 295.40, but it is well known that a lot of people (including myself) have a lot of issues with that driver version. Is my only chance to solve my problems a manual install of the latest nvidia driver?
[14:02] <andrewb80_> Hey guys Im trying to install Ubuntu on my wifes toshiba satalite m70 laptop using disk. I used this disk to do 3 other pcs with no problems but this laptop wont boot from disk
[14:03] <gustyaquino> stefg: installing right now
[14:03] <andrewb80_> anyone had any issues
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  in a terminal type mkdir windows;sudo mount /dev/sda2 windows
[14:04] <ayaka> can i let tightserver ask both unix passwd and vnc passwd
[14:04] <ThinkT510> MonkeyDust: depends where he opens the terminal, he might not open it from home
[14:04] <neweruser123> mkdir: cannot create directory `windows': File exists Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command
[14:05] <neweruser123> is what I got
[14:05] <gustyaquino> conference mode activated.. this is way better
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> ThinkT510  neweruser123 i got to go now
[14:05] <s4l1ty> Excuse me
[14:05] <neweruser123> oh ok
[14:05] <Varsuchi> andrew: any errors?
[14:05] <sirknight> i say use that manual install of the latest nvidia drive  / and ati too. always ... i hear its better that way   and i see alot of the comunity telling ppl to do it this way
[14:06] <rr> nick/ rr
[14:06] <laite> Hi, I'm having trouble with HDMI audio with my television, could somebody help me? It seems that audio only works if my TV is on while booting xubuntu - if I switch TV on while xubuntu is already running video works, but not audio
[14:06] <sirknight> Guest29955,
[14:06] <rr> join #winehq
[14:06] <laite> (I already asked from #xubuntu, but couldn't get answer :/)
[14:06] <andrewb80_> nope just loads windows instead. I was able to install in windows like a progtram but I want to replace windows
[14:07] <sirknight> laite do you need ?
[14:07] <gustyaquino> someone could help me configuring bind9 to listen to the same ip but with different name servers?
[14:07] <laite> sirknight: if by '?' you mean help, then yes please :)
[14:07] <`prixon> I have a question regarding linux.. usually it is said that linux based OS use resources better than windows. so I would expect it to get better scores in phoronix.com tests. but in 85% of the benchmarks/tests it shows that linux is slower than windows. is there a good explanation to this?
[14:07] <sirknight> laggy sorry
[14:07] <stefg> gustyaquino: here is a nice stylesheet for chatzilla http://paste.ubuntu.com/969191/ . download, rename to chatzilla.css and drag taht onto the chatzilla window
[14:07] <virpara> hey stefg i ask you very politely: "Can i PM you?" hope you won't mind
[14:07] <sirknight> what do you need help ?
[14:08] <mkohler> hi guys, I used pysdm to configure the mount of my partitions. There it says that file can be executed and fstab tells me that it should be mounted "users, user".. |mount| tells me that /dev/sda7 is mounted noexec though. How can I fix that?
[14:08] <ThinkT510> `prixon: this is just a support channel
[14:08] <Guest29955> I need to get nvidia 295.49 installed on ubuntu 12.04 and I wonder if there is any other way than manually installing
[14:08] <laite> how could I get HDMI audio working without having to reboot system
[14:08] <stefg> virpara: keep it in the channel, so other users can follow
[14:08] <laite> I've selected HDMI from sound settings, but it only works after I reboot with TV on
[14:09] <neweruser123> the ubuntu install window has froze and i cant close it
[14:09] <virpara> stefg did you read my pm?
[14:09] <`prixon> ok ThinkT510, (I'm own an x220 and) lately (I bought it two weeks ago) it seems like that fan spins out of control when I'm not doing anything in particular. it gets to around 3500 rpm. both in windows and in a live-usb ubuntu 12.04. has anyone experienced this kind of problem?
[14:10] <`prixon> *I own
[14:10] <gustyaquino> stefg: error downloading: OpenID failed
[14:10] <gustyaquino> will try just to copy and paste..
[14:11] <ThinkT510> `prixon: sounds like a overheat issue
[14:11] <stefg> gustyaquino: i see ... so just make a new text document and copy and paste by hand .... it's just ascii anyway
[14:11] <`prixon> what could be the cause for it?
[14:11] <andrewb80_> Varsuchi: Any ideas?
[14:12] <stefg> gustyaquino: and it's just a nice theme... you don't need it, chatzilla has built-in themes as well.
[14:12] <Varsuchi> andrew: have you checked your boot sequence and made sure that your cdrom is set as first boot device?
[14:13] <Varsuchi> not your hard drive
[14:13] <ThinkT510> `prixon: many things, sometimes the heatsink or just the cpu being utilised too much
[14:13] <andrewb80_> Sorry for asking a dumb question but how would I do that?lol
[14:13] <`prixon> so I'm stuck with a bad laptop? is that what you're saying?
[14:13] <ThinkT510> `prixon: if you aren't overheating at all it could simply be a firmware glitch that kicks your fan into full speed
[14:14] <don262> `prixon: that happened to me when the goop that holds the fan unit to cpu dried out and they seperated.
[14:14] <gustyaquino> stefg: yes it is..
[14:14] <stefg> virpara: for info on how to mount partitions permanently read the !fstab factoid, along with !ntfs
[14:14] <lousygarua> Is there a way in linux to exit a hung application in fullscreen? e.g. when I develop an SDL app and forget to add a way to... well... quit :)
[14:15] <ThinkT510> `prixon: since you say it happens in windows and ubuntu i would guess it is an overheating issue
[14:15] <laite> lousygarua: bind a hotkey for 'xkill'
[14:15] <IdleOne> lousygarua: ps aux | grep name_of_hung_app and then kill PID_of_app
[14:15] <stefg> lousygarua: ctrl-alt-F1 , login, killall <process>
[14:16] <virpara> stefg okay
[14:16] <andrewb80_> I had no problem setting up Ubuntu on my Vaio and on my HP Pc, but this Toshiba has always been a pain in the ass. I bought it in Canada but any time I needed drivers and what not. I had to go to the Ausie sony site. Its a M70
[14:17] <Varsuchi> andrew: go into your bios setup, usually del or f1 on POST
[14:17] <Varsuchi> find boot sequence
[14:17] <Varsuchi> or boot order or something like that
[14:17] <Jacruth> Hi there, I have some problems. I have updated my ubuntu to 12.04 and now my keyboard shortcuts doesn't work. For example, I can't change between windows doing "alt+tab".
[14:18] <andrewb80_> And I want to make sure its booting disk first in the order?
[14:18] <Varsuchi> no
[14:18] <Varsuchi> you want it to boot cdrom first
[14:18] <Varsuchi> if you boot hard disk first its going to go to windows
[14:18] <ResQue> could someone please tell me what the apt file appName.list.distUpgrade does, it is stored inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:18] <andrewb80_> Ok and this will be a way to install it in place of windows?
[14:19] <lousygarua> laite: didn't know about that. should the hotkey need be binded on the x server level? or is it sufficient to do that through the regular gnome hotkeys?
[14:19] <Varsuchi> this will let you boot to your ubuntu cd and install ubuntu
[14:19] <rogz> Is there a specific desktop channel?
[14:19] <Sidewinder> !distupgrade | ResQue
[14:19] <ThinkT510> rogz: here it is
[14:19] <lousygarua> stefg: i know about this method, not sure why i haven't used it before. maybe i didn't manage to get to the tty?
[14:20] <Varsuchi> ubottu: thats kind of a misleading command name then...
[14:20] <andrewb80_> Awesome I will try that bro thank you so much, sorry for the Newb questions, lol. Im just new to Ubuntu but its the best OS Ive used
[14:20] <lousygarua> IdleOne: from an ctrl+alt+f1 terminal you mean, right?
[14:20] <Varsuchi> andrew: no problem.
[14:21] <Varsuchi> Resque: do-release-upgrade also upgrades the OS.
[14:21] <rogz> ThinkT510, Ok. Anyone know if there are any plans to package a newer GDM than 3.0.4?
[14:21] <stefg> lousygarua: in previous versions the nvidia-driver tended to break the tty's with plymouth. As far as i can tell it works now with 12.04
[14:21] <ThinkT510> rogz: not sure, ubuntu uses lightdm by default now
[14:21] <rogz> in a specific PPA for example the Gnome3 PPA
[14:21] <laite> lousygarua: I guess it depends on how much stuck you are planning to get your system =D For me, setting it in xfce keybindings has been enough
[14:21] <coldlogic> i have a question about irc
[14:21] <Sidewinder> Varsuchi, Yes, mis-leading; I've said that for a long time.
[14:21] <Jacruth> My keyboard shortcuts doesn't work, what should I need to reinstall Ibus?
[14:21] <rogz> ThinkT510, yeah I know, I liked GDM better
[14:22] <superlou> I have 3 drives in a software Raid 5 setup with mdadm.  I've been having trouble on Ubuntu 12.04 with what looks like a race condition trying to assemble before the drives are ready.  I've been doing a lot of reboots to diagnose, and now when I boot up, the drives are starting up in degraded mode (2 of 3 working).  All 3 drives have healthy SMART data.  Disk utility says the raid is "clean, degraded".  The drives seemed fine on 11.10.
[14:22] <superlou> Is it likely that the drive has actually happened to die, or is it possible some configuration is wrong?
[14:22] <rogz> as long as I can switch there is no problem, but a more recent version would be better ;)
[14:22] <coldlogic> i am new to this program (xchat) and irc in general, so i was wondering if anyone can tell me how to change chennels
[14:22] <coldlogic> *channels
[14:22] <ThinkT510> rogz: its not likely to change in the precise repo
[14:23] <lousygarua> laite: alright :) thanks, though i might try getting to ctrl+alt+f1 before, stefg suggested that it works now on 12.04
[14:23] <ThinkT510> !latest
[14:23] <Sidewinder> coldlogic, just type /join #channel-name.
[14:23] <ResQue> Varsuchi: so this file will only get run by apt when i do i distupgrade, could you please tell me why in one of my distupgrade files references natty, wheh i am running 11.10 oeniric
[14:23] <rogz> ThinkT510, I figured that. The Gnome3 PPA pointed in this direction so I though I'd ask here
[14:24] <ThinkT510> rogz: no doubt 12.10 will have a more recent one
[14:24] <rogz> Most other Gnome3 packages are 3.4 versions but for some reason GDM is not amongst them.
[14:24] <Sidewinder> coldlogic, There's also the gui way, click X-Chat-->Server-->Join Chanel.
[14:25] <rogz> Couldn't find anything in the desktop mailing list on the matter either
[14:25] <coldlogic> sidewinder, great thanks
[14:25] <rogz> But... I'll wait for 12.10 then.
[14:25] <Sidewinder> coldlogic, My pleasure. :)
[14:25] <ResQue> Sidewinder: maybe you also know the answer, is this correct that a list.distupgrade file would have a reference to an old distro. natty in my case, even though i am using oneiric
[14:26] <stefg> superlou: what does 'cat /proc/mdstat' say? if the array is rebuilding for some reason it might say 'degraded' as long as the rebuild isn't complete
[14:26] <Sidewinder> ResQue, I'm not sure about that one, sorry. :(
[14:26] <ResQue> Sidewinder: thanks
[14:26] <Sidewinder> NP
[14:27] <ResQue> Could anyone please provide me with some more information on /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, and how i can make sure the values in there are correct
[14:28] <stefg> !apt | ResQue
[14:28] <Jacruth> Hi there, I have some problems. I have updated my ubuntu to 12.04 and now my keyboard shortcuts doesn't work. For example, I can't change between windows doing "alt+tab". It is really a mess and I didn't find how to fix it. What should I reinstall ? Is is Ibus or what is it?
[14:28] <Sidewinder> coldlogic, In case you've not seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:29] <ResQue> stefg: thanks, i did read the man pages, but i am still unsure why a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ references natty and not oneiric, i am running oneiric. Is this normaly that a list.distUpgrade file would reference and old distro and is it safe to delete it?
[14:29] <superlou> stefg, Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
[14:29] <superlou> md0 : active raid5 sdd1[1] sdb1[3]
[14:29] <superlou>       1953517568 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/2] [_UU]
[14:29] <superlou>       
[14:29] <superlou> unused devices: <none>
[14:29] <hellraiser> can 12.04 isos be dd-ed to an USB stick?
[14:29] <FloodBot1> superlou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:29] <superlou> whoops.  didn't mean to go across multiple lines
[14:29] <superlou> thanks bot :)
[14:30] <marcuy> is there any way to reallocate data in swap memory to the main memory?
[14:30] <Sidewinder> !unetbootin | hellraiser
[14:31] <LjL> marcuy: uh... as soon as they're needed again, they'l go back to real memory
[14:31] <superlou> stefg, I can see that one of the components isn't attached, but when I try to attach it, I get operation failed: /dev/sdc1 reports being an active member for /dev/md0, but a --re-add fails
[14:31] <stefg> ResQue: please distinguish between /etc/apt/sources.list (core repos) and the stuff in sources.list.d . That's separate for a reason, b/c ppa's and 3rd party rpos go there. the first thing an upgrade to a higher version makes is disabling the ppa's
[14:31] <ThinkT510> hellraiser: indeed they can
[14:31] <Sidewinder> hellraiser, Hope that answers your query.
[14:32] <zykotic10> hellraiser: it's better to cat then dd, but Yes 12.04 is a hybrid-cd/usb image
[14:32] <ix_> .
[14:32] <stefg> superlou: are you able to stop the array? or is the / filesystem on it, too?
[14:32] <abdelix> ho to discover to which wifi its conected my laptop troght terminal?
[14:32] <superlou> stefg, I can stop it (i've been leaving it stopped most of the time just in case).  It's a bunch of backups
[14:32] <superlou> OS is on a non-raid drive
[14:33] <ix_> I can't install a command line system without an internet connection, it does not let me
[14:33] <donvito> is ubuntu12.04 stable?
[14:33] <ix_> from alternate install of course
[14:33] <ResQue> stefg: i see, thanks that helps. after the upgrade will ubuntu edit the sources.list.d, and change the values from the old distro name, to the new distro name?
[14:33] <ThinkT510> zykotic10: just curious, what is the advantage of cat-ing compared to dd-ing?
[14:33] <ix_> donvito: it is stable
[14:33] <stefg> superlou: so i'd stop it, and re-assemble it
[14:33] <ResQue> stefg: and re enable them?
[14:33] <donvito> thanks ix_
[14:33] <stefg> superlou: like sudo mdadm --stop --scan
[14:33] <jwtiyar> i had installed unofficial .deb and i want to remove now , how?
[14:34] <hellraiser> zykotic10 cool, thanks. this means I don't have to mess around with 3rd party usb drive writers like unetbootin & co - I can simply dd of=~/Downloads/ubuntu...iso of=/dev/sdX
[14:34] <LjL> jwtiyar: sudo apt-get remove packagename, like any other package
[14:34] <zykotic10> ThinkT510: cat will use the proper filesystem layout/size for the given target, dd might not
[14:34] <ThinkT510> hellraiser: if then of
[14:34] <superlou> stefg, it starts with 2 drives out of 3.  Same result in terminal and Disk Utility
[14:34] <zykotic10> hellraiser: yes - but i repeat - cat is intended to be used, not dd
[14:34] <jwtiyar> LjL, i know this way but I CANT select the name because i dont know the name exactly
[14:35] <stefg> ResQue: it's your job to reenable the ppas... the upgrader deals with sources.list
[14:35] <hellraiser> as in /bin/cat ?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> zykotic10: cool, thanks for the info
[14:35] <hellraiser> it's the same thing lol
[14:35] <superlou> stefg, Disk utility sees the unattached drive just fine as far as I can tell.  It passes SMART.  Is there any other tests I can run on it?
[14:35] <LjL> jwtiyar: it's usually the same as the first part of the .deb filename.
[14:35] <zykotic10> hellraiser: "cat ubuntu.iso > /dev/sdX"
[14:35] <ResQue> stefg: thanks that gives me something to start googling, question answered
[14:36] <ThinkT510> zykotic10: i assume it requires sudo?
[14:36] <zykotic10> ThinkT510: "sudo -i" then the command
[14:36] <LjL> jwtiyar: if you installed it recently, you can also have a look at /var/log/dpkg.log to see the name that showed up during installation
[14:36] <stefg> superlou: i don't think it's hardware... mdadm can be bitchy about its metadata with different kernel versions.
[14:36] <ThinkT510> zykotic10: oh, you need a root terminal specifically? will it not work through plain sudo?
[14:37] <zykotic10> ThinkT510: i'm not 100% - but i think the ">" might give sudo an issue
[14:37] <stefg> superlou: which command did you use to re-assemble?
[14:37] <pieripino74> ciao
[14:37] <Sidewinder> Here comes the list.
[14:37] <pieripino74> !list
[14:37] <superlou> stefg, mdadm --assemble --scan (there's only one raid device in the box)
[14:37] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[14:37] <zykotic10> Sidewinder: ;)
[14:37] <ThinkT510> zykotic10: i see, just like using the pipe with tee
[14:38] <LjL> please just ignore the !list thing, no need to add more lines of noise to it...
[14:38] <zykotic10> ThinkT510: ya, that's what i'm worried about
[14:38] <jwtiyar> LjL, in the the name is http://paste.ubuntu.com/969262/
[14:38] <stefg> superlou: stop again, and don't use --scan. Tell mdadm exactly what partitions you're goiung to use
[14:38] <LjL> jwtiyar: so sudo apt-get remove crossplatformui
[14:38] <stefg> superlou: like mdadm -A /dev/md0 -l5 /dev/sda2 /devsdb2 /dev/sdc2
[14:39] <Sidewinder> LjL, May I approach the bench?
[14:39] <jwtiyar> LjL, Thasnk uuu
[14:39] <Ztane> how do i change te subpixel hinting settings on unity?
[14:39] <LjL> Sidewinder: -ops or pm will be fine
[14:39] <Ztane> the font in the menubar looks like blurry rainpow crap :(
[14:41] <alexxio> hi
[14:41] <jwtiyar> LjL, Can please check this http://imagebin.org/211107
[14:41] <alexxio> i'm trying to make a  simple bash script using the if command, but the  if ["$STRING1"=="$STRING2"]; then ... fi returns "command not found" ...why?
[14:42] <REK_007> my sensors are not working on ubuntu
[14:42] <superlou> stefg, sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 leads to mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 2 drives (out of 3).
[14:42] <ThinkT510> alexxio: there is also #bash to ask in
[14:42] <LjL> jwtiyar: i can't make much of it, i'd need to see the output from apt-get when trying to install the same package. but it seems that crossplatformui is incompatible with the package you're trying to install.
[14:42] <superlou> Seems like the same result
[14:42] <REK_007> how do i make them work .. it says no sensors found! i tried the method of detecting but no outcome
[14:42] <alexxio> ThinkT510: thanks
[14:43] <rogz> alexxio, You need a space char after [ and before ]
[14:43] <stefg> alexxio: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[14:43] <zykotic10> REK_007: have you installed lm-sensors, and does "sensors" from terminal give any output?
[14:43] <jwtiyar> LjL, when i want to remove it give this http://paste.ubuntu.com/969275/
[14:43] <stefg> superlou: which drive has been left out?
[14:44] <REK_007> zykotic10: yeah i have installed and ran "sensors-detect" on putting sensors in terminal it says no sensor found
[14:44] <ghabit> Hello. Fresh ubuntu 12.04 install. After entering password (login windows) there is a 10-15 seconds delay before unity (or gnome-shell) will be appeared. How to fix it?
[14:44] <zykotic10> REK_007: ummm.  might be a hardware support issue then?  best of luck.
[14:44] <superlou> stefg, /dev/sdc1
[14:44] <superlou> There are 2 of one model drive, and 1 of another
[14:45] <superlou> The dissimilar drive is the one not attaching for what it's worth
[14:45] <REK_007> zykotic10: actually am on  sandy build using 10.04.4 so am kind of thinking the package not updated to the recent hardware
[14:45] <rogz> ghabit, did you keep your home directory between installs?
[14:45] <zykotic10> REK_007: with 10.04 that's very likely
[14:45] <LjL> jwtiyar: that can be a big problem. you need to find the postrm file for the package in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and debug it. it should be called /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm
[14:45] <LjL> jwtiyar: pastebin it perhaps, so i'll have a look and see if i can spot what's wrong with it
[14:46] <jwtiyar> LjL, paste cross... .postrm to you?
[14:46] <stefg> superlou: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-6.html try to set sdc1 faulty and then re-add (will cause a resny)
[14:46] <stefg> *resync
[14:46] <l33d0t> i hate the fact i can't use browser with a keyboard only :(
[14:46] <cookiemon5ter> does ubuntu still come with something to make a bootable usb install image or do i need to install unetbootin
[14:46] <superlou> stefg, mdadm --examine for all three look similar (each has an active device role, all are clean)
[14:46] <walidvb_> hi guys!
[14:46] <walidvb_> how can i check my gpu usage? does htop only show cpus?
[14:46] <cookiemon5ter> or can i dd an ubuntu image
[14:47] <superlou> stefg, does that risk destroying the data if for some reason the problem is actually caused by a different drive?
[14:47] <zykotic10> cookiemon5ter: you can dd it - though the hybrid images are intended to use cat...
[14:47] <LjL> jwtiyar: yes, but on the pastebin please
[14:47] <jwtiyar> LjL, ok iknow
[14:47] <cookiemon5ter> zykotic10: cat?
[14:47] <oCean> cookiemon5ter: also, there is usb-creator-gtk
[14:47] <stefg> superlou: probably yes.   look into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and check that the partition UUIDs fit
[14:47] <virpara> bye stef
[14:47] <jwtiyar> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/969281/
[14:48] <pixelmonkey> I just upgraded to 12.04 and am playing with the compiz Grid Plugin. I notice that Place Right/Left do not cycle 33%, 50%, 66% width anymore like they used to upon repeating hotkey. Anyone know how to reenable?
[14:48] <cookiemon5ter> cat as an abbrv or cat as in concatenate ?
[14:48] <kapz> Typingon my laptop has become difficult for me, how do i disable touchpad, Fn+F6 does nothing...
[14:48] <zykotic10> cookiemon5ter: yup (probably "sudo -i") then "cat ubuntu.iso > /dev/sdX" with no partition number
[14:48] <cookiemon5ter> i am confused
[14:48] <lnxslck> did anyone sucessfully installed oracle XE on ubuntu 12.04 64 bits?
[14:48] <l33d0t> anyone know anything about future releases of ubuntu ?
[14:48] <cookiemon5ter> ah concatenate
[14:49] <walidvb_> it seems i activated it, nvidiaconf says so, but when I run nvidia-smi i have nothing
[14:49] <oCean> l33d0t: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chitchat and discussion
[14:49] <superlou> stefg, the UUID only has one?  looks like it autoassmebles?
[14:49] <l33d0t> sure
[14:49] <stefg> superlou: ... and miserably fails at doing so ....
[14:50] <ghabit> rogz, no, i have formatted it.
[14:50] <stefg> superlou: don't confuse array UUID and partition UUID
[14:50] <LjL> jwtiyar: try commenting out the line that says  sudo killall -9 ztemtvcdromd
[14:50] <Jacruth> Hi there, I have some problems. I have updated my ubuntu to 12.04 and now my keyboard shortcuts doesn't work. For example, I can't change between windows doing "alt+tab". It is really a mess and I didn't find how to fix it. What should I reinstall ? Is is Ibus or what is it?
[14:50] <cookiemon5ter> zykotic10: one more question, should i delete any partitions on the drive and create a new one ?
[14:50] <jwtiyar> LjL, i don understand sorry :(
[14:50] <zykotic10> cookiemon5ter: the cat'ing will delete everything on the USB!
[14:50] <zykotic10> cookiemon5ter: don't create a parition!
[14:51] <superlou> stefg, the UUID in mdadm.conf is the one in the superblock?
[14:51] <cookiemon5ter> zykotic10: ok ty
[14:51] <tbrown> Does anyone know if 8.04 is still supported
[14:51] <whytw0sean> Anyone have a LInk to learn how to script?
[14:51] <zykotic10> !8.04 | tbrown
[14:51] <llutz> whytw0sean: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[14:51] <LjL> jwtiyar: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm using "gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm". find the line that says "sudo killall -9 ztemtvcdromd". add a # sign at the start of that line. save. try again with apt-get
[14:51] <whytw0sean> llutz, ty
[14:51] <ThinkT510> tbrown: only on server
[14:51] <stefg> superlou: yes. it should be the same you get in /proc/mdstat
[14:52] <jwtiyar> LjL, ok
[14:52] <ghabit> Fresh ubuntu 12.04 install. After entering password (login windows) there is a 10-15 seconds delay before unity (or gnome-shell) will be appeared. How to fix it? Help! ^)
[14:52] <stefg> superlou: yes. it should be the same you get in mdadm --detail --scan
[14:52] <kapz> how do i disable touchpad on ubuntu 12.04?  Fn+F6 does nothing...
[14:52] <enzotib> kapz, synclient Touchpadoff=1
[14:52] <Sidewinder> ghabit, That may be normal.
[14:52] <stefg> superlou: http://www.ducea.com/2009/03/08/mdadm-cheat-sheet/
[14:53] <pixelmonkey> how does one disable the "presence" indicator (from empathy?) in the Unity panel?
[14:53] <tbrown> ubottu: Thinkt510: Thanks
[14:53] <casper001> ghabit, unity shows me the screen in 0.1 second like a tv
[14:53] <REK_007> is there a way to compile lm sensor from source [if any exist]
[14:53] <superlou> stefg, awesome sheet, thanks
[14:53] <Sidewinder> ghabit, At least it is on my machine; it's old. :)
[14:53] <jwtiyar> LjL, you mean this change ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/969295/
[14:53] <superlou> stefg, i'm going to try a restart and reattach before I try failing the drive.  will brb.  Thanks for all of the help!
[14:53] <ghabit> I have a fast pc, and this behavior is only with ubuntu 12.04
[14:54] <LjL> jwtiyar: yes
[14:54] <tbrown> Does anyone know if lubuntu is better for lower computers
[14:54] <kapz> thanks enzotib, it works!...can I associate it with my Fn key?
[14:54] <ghabit> i am entering password - 10 seconds of sleep - then all things begins working.
[14:54] <ThinkT510> tbrown: it should use less resouces
[14:54] <stefg> kapz: how low?
[14:54] <zykotic10> tbrown: lxde has much lower system requirements then unity/gnome3
[14:54] <conor_ireland> hello
[14:54] <ThinkT510> resources
[14:54] <conor_ireland> Does Ubuntu have a system restore to rollback and upgrade?
[14:54] <LjL> conor_ireland: no
[14:54] <jwtiyar> LjL, Same problem
[14:54] <kapz> stefg, what?
[14:54] <casper001> ghabit, 12.04 is faster than 11.04 with gnome classic for me
[14:55] <conor_ireland> LjL: it doesn't? smh at canonical
[14:55] <zykotic10> !downgrade | conor_ireland upgrading scripts are only one direction...
[14:55] <stefg> kapz: tell about the system... how much ram, what CPU?
[14:55] <ThinkT510> conor_ireland: backups and restores are the responsibility of the user
[14:55] <LjL> jwtiyar: execute the file manually with "bash -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm", and pastebin the output so i can see where it fails now
[14:55] <Cyberkilla> Well, I hate this HP Slimline :( WiFi card cuts out intermittently, USB keyboard stops working after half an hour (reconnect has no effect), and Totem and/or Compiz peg the CPU at 90% for no reason at all (fglrx)  :-(
[14:55] <conor_ireland> LjL and zykotic10 ok thanks
[14:56] <donvito> kapz = kapzas?
[14:56] <conor_ireland> ThinkT510: ye, this is ubuntu I did not expect an upgrade to break compatibility with my graphics card.....
[14:56] <kapz> stefg, its a lenovo laptop Z570......
[14:56] <jwtiyar> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/969303/
[14:56] <tbrown> ThinkT510: Zykotic10: I have a Laptop that has AMD Processor with 1.65GHz and 4.0GB of Ram and it been over heating like crazy I just dont know what is the write os for it. Am trying to do more thing on it but my computer is using more memmory then it need to:(
[14:56] <kapz> donvito, kapz = me = kapz!
[14:56] <donvito> ok
[14:56] <donvito> kapz
[14:56] <ThinkT510> conor_ireland: graphics cards are an ugly thing in linux, dominated by proprietry drivers
[14:56] <zykotic10> !atemyram | tbrown
[14:57] <LjL> jwtiyar: sorry, gave you the wrong command. you need to do "bash -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/crossplatformui.postrm remove"
[14:57] <zykotic10> tbrown: *buntu uses more memory then many other gnu/linux distros...
[14:57] <gaelfx> I have a Broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card and I'm using the STA drivers, but the connection I'm getting is only 65mbps, it should be able to connect at at least 150mbps though, as I have a router set for 300mbps connections, is there anything I can do to get my wireless connection faster?
[14:57] <ThinkT510> tbrown: ram is there to be used
[14:57] <zykotic10> ThinkT510: +1
[14:57] <jwtiyar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/969309/
[14:57] <conor_ireland> ThinkT510: yep, has been like that for a very very long time. I thought Canonical had solved this for at least all the major ones (I have a macbook pro hardly a corner case graphic card)
[14:57] <donvito> kapz are u from jalna india?
[14:57] <walidvb_> graphic cards are a hassle indeed
[14:58] <walidvb_> how can I verify that direct rendering is activated?
[14:58] <ThinkT510> conor_ireland: macbook is a laptop, not a graphics card
[14:58] <conor_ireland> I will have to snapshot next time, Canonical made me too trusting
[14:58] <kapz> donvito, mmm, no.
[14:58] <donvito> ok
[14:58] <donvito> im from mumbai
[14:58] <Cyberkilla> tbrown, I've never used a machine yet that didn't overheat with Linux running. I've had a Vaio, a Toshiba Satellite, an HP Mini, and a couple of desktop machines, and they all ran much hotter than in windows, and this is at idle.
[14:58] <conor_ireland> ThinkT510: it has one of 2 graphic cards... that is my point
[14:58] <zykotic10> walidvb_: "glxinfo | grep direct"
[14:58] <kapz> good 4 u...i guess
[14:58] <walidvb_> zykotic10: thx!
[14:58] <LjL> jwtiyar: what an ugly script this is. well, change the line "sudo /bin/rm -Rd /usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/zteusbserial" into "sudo /bin/rm -R /usr/local/bin/ztemtApp/zteusbserial"
[14:58] <stefg> kapz: that's a capable machine... i'd use standard ubuntu (64bit) on it
[14:58] <oCean> donvito: this channel is not for social chat, it is ubuntu technical support. /join #ubuntu-offtopic channel for general chit chat and discussion
[14:59] <conor_ireland> ThinkT510: and  very supported and common graphic cards at that
[14:59] <walidvb_> zykotic10: it says yes, but when i run
[14:59] <walidvb_>  nvidia-smi i have nothing
[14:59] <ThinkT510> conor_ireland: when you discover a quick way to reverse engineer graphics card drivers or convince manufacturers to stick to open source we will be grateful
[14:59] <zykotic10> walidvb_: is this ati/amd?
[14:59] <walidvb_> no
[14:59] <zykotic10> walidvb_: oh, nvidia.
[14:59] <jwtiyar> LjL, sorry :) ok
[14:59] <kapz> what are you talking about stefg...
[14:59] <zykotic10> walidvb_: what is nvidia-smi?
[15:00] <safeith> Are there any body who install alsa-linuxant-diver with conexant modem in ubuntu 12.04
[15:00] <kapz> I AM using ubuntu 12.04
[15:00] <jwtiyar> LjL, thank uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu solved , i made tired sorry again
[15:00] <casper001> so is everybody
[15:00] <LjL> jwtiyar: nice, np
[15:00] <walidvb_> it's the nvidia system management interface program
[15:00] <zykotic10> walidvb_: sorry, i have no idea what that is.  good luck.
[15:01] <stefg> kapz, don't mind... i confused nicks
[15:01] <tbrown> Cyberkilla: Do you know of any os that does not uses as much ram or anything like chrome os:)
[15:01] <kapz> ugh
[15:01] <zykotic10> walidvb_: how is it different from nvidia-settings?
[15:01] <conor_ireland> ThinkT510: that is a completely seperate point. My graphics card was supported in Ubuntu 11.10 but completely screwed up in 12.04
[15:01] <Jacruth> Hi there, I think this is not the best place to ask it, but I have updated my Debian-based OS and now my keyboard shortcuts doesn't work. Do you know what daemon or thing does manage it or what should I reinstall in order to bring it back?
[15:01] <xangua> Jacruth: /join #debian
[15:01] <oCean> Jacruth: ask in #debian channel?
[15:01] <OerHeks> conor_ireland, optimus ?
[15:01] <Jacruth> well, I mean Ubuntu
[15:01] <whytw0sean> Anyone help me.. everytime i try to open a .sh file in term the terminal just closes fast
[15:01] <Jacruth> xD
[15:01] <walidvb_> zykotic10: www.pastebin.com/EQcMAG94
[15:01] <conor_ireland> OerHeks: what?
[15:01] <oCean> Jacruth: oh you did, don't ask here then please
[15:02] <OerHeks> conor_ireland, dual videocard - optimus ?
[15:02] <superlou> stefg, I did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/969318/.  It looks like the unattached drive really is unattached.  Maybe the superblock is damaged?
[15:02] <walidvb_> i think it outpus the gpu usage, i figured it was smth like htop but for gpus?
[15:02] <cookiemon5ter> who do i talk to about python issues on ubuntu
[15:02] <conor_ireland> OerHeks: oh, no it is NVIDIA GeForce 320M i think
[15:02] <Jacruth> I'll try to reboot it, maybe any daemon didn't start properly
[15:02] <superlou> cookiemon5ter, is it unique to Ubuntu? or python in general?
[15:03] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: unique to ubuntu
[15:03] <zykotic10> walidvb_: sorry crossplatformui means nothing to me?
[15:03] <cookiemon5ter> when i load the py shell and use help() then modules i get this http://pastebin.com/aw4XtFDn
[15:03] <stefg> superlou: yeah, could be...
[15:03] <superlou> cookiemon5ter, rats, then i probably won't be much help, sorry
[15:03] <walidvb_> zykotic10: crossplatformui?
[15:03] <gaelfx> I have a Broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card and I'm using the STA drivers, but the connection I'm getting is only 65mbps, it should be able to connect at at least 150mbps though, as I have a router set for 300mbps connections, is there anything I can do to get my wireless connection faster?
[15:03] <whytw0sean> Anyone know why everytime i try to open a .sh file the terminal just copens and closes fast
[15:03] <zykotic10> walidvb_: that pastebin you just sent
[15:03] <stefg> superlou: have you checked in fdisk -l that the partition type is (still) raid?
[15:04] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: should i make a bug report
[15:04] <superlou> stefg, if I do the zero superblock as it asks, is that only pertinent to the lame drive, or to the whole raid? (I think i might need to read about how superblocks work)
[15:04] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: also if you use 12.04 do you have that same issue
[15:04] <zykotic10> walidvb_: sorry - i was looking in wrong window
[15:04] <ThinkT510> whytw0sean: tried reading the script you are trying to run?
[15:04] <_MagePsycho> how to extract single file from archive?
[15:04] <stefg> superlou: it only takes sdc1 out of the array
[15:04] <walidvb_> zykotic10: oh, i thought i'd sent the wrong pastebin ^^
[15:04] <whytw0sean> ThinkT510,  Yeah i can read it
[15:05] <superlou> stefg, Disk Utility says partition type Linux RAID autodetext xfd
[15:05] <ThinkT510> whytw0sean: what is it meant to do?
[15:05] <superlou> stefg, 0xfd
[15:05] <stefg> superlou: that's correct
[15:05] <whytw0sean> ThinkT510,  Well im learning to script.. so i just made a self deleting script of the file etc wanted to see if i did it right
[15:05] <superlou> cookiemon5ter, what's the issue?
[15:05] <gaelfx> does mplayer or vlc actually use the UVD feature of Radeon graphics cards? do you need to install fglrx for this to work?
[15:06] <superlou> stefg, so the next step is zeroing the superblock on the lame drive?  In theory i'm no worse off since that drive isn't attaching?
[15:06] <zykotic10> walidvb_: nvidia-smi only gives me a Timestamp entry?  so, you're a lot further ahead then me ;)  (PS. my nvidia drivers are working fine)
[15:06] <stefg> superlou: right
[15:06] <ThinkT510> whytw0sean: wouldn't it be better to start with hello world?
[15:06] <walidvb_> zykotic10: hm
[15:06] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: using help() within a py shell it says to invoke modules to get a list of modules
[15:06] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: when i do this it crashes
[15:07] <walidvb_> zykotic10: but this should list some processes running on the gpu, no?
[15:07] <whytw0sean> ThinkT510,  yeh but im just trying things.. but my problem is everytime i open a .sh file the terminal just Opens an closes fast
[15:07] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: http://pastebin.com/aw4XtFDn
[15:07] <zykotic10> walidvb_: i have no idea - i'd never heard of it before you
[15:07] <gaelfx> and for a final question, ftm, does apt-p2p help with Partner repos at all?
[15:07] <walidvb_> zykotic10: ok, thanks anyway :)
[15:07] <llutz> whytw0sean: how do you run the script?
[15:07] <walidvb_> anyone familiar with nvidia-smi ? or with a command to view gpu usage?
[15:07] <ThinkT510> whytw0sean: if it doesn't need to give any output then ofcourse it would
[15:08] <superlou> cookiemon5ter, I get the same thing
[15:08] <whytw0sean> llutz,  I've just been puting the script executable and click on it -> Run In Term or i would go to Term go to /desktop/ and ./ddhjd.sh
[15:08] <mohd> Salutation.
[15:08] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: i am new to ubuntu should i make a bug report
[15:08] <llutz> whytw0sean: use xterm -hold -e yourscript                       if you don't want the terminal to close immediately
[15:09] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: is there a ubuntu python team ?
[15:09] <superlou> cookiemon5ter, You could I guess.  You might want to check the generic python IRC (which I think there is but forget the channel of).  Someone there is probably running on 12.04
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> whytw0sean: add a sleep to the end of the file, may help
[15:09] <ThinkT510> whytw0sean: plenty of help is also available in #bash (better help than i ever could be)
[15:09] <superlou> I don't know if there is an ubuntu python team, sorry
[15:10] <whytw0sean> ActionParsnip,  you me Exit? at the end of ur script
[15:10] <ThinkT510> superlou: its just: #python
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> whytw0sean: if you add the line:    sleep 20       the system will wait 20 seconds then end, keeping the window open#
[15:10] <mohd> How can i change the power dynamicly in 12.40 !
[15:10] <superlou> ThinkT510, thanks
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mohd: weird calendar you got there ;)
[15:11] <cookiemon5ter> superlou: ty
[15:11] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: meanwhile, in the 40th month of 2012...
[15:12] <superlou> stefg, I zero'd the superblock, added the drive back, and now disk utility says it's recovering
[15:12] <superlou> is that a good thing?
[15:12] <mohd> ActionParsnip, :)
[15:12] <stefg> superlou: phewww ... now let it do its thing... you can watch the progress in /proc/mdstat
[15:13] <Ztane> so how can i change subpixel hinting or whatever in Precise / unity
[15:13] <superlou> stefg, ok.  Maybe I'll by an extra drive to have as standby just in case.  Was starting to sweat this one
[15:13] <shaneo> hey guys whats the best way to make a system image i want to upgrade my hdd and save all my data
[15:13] <superlou> with my luck, i'll get a power surge and crash a good drive in the middle of this
[15:13] <xangua> Ztane: myunity, gnome-tweak-tool, etc... loot of options
[15:14] <zykotic10> shaneo: i've used the clonezilla livecd for system imaging before...
[15:14] <stefg> superlou: sudo watch cat /proc/mdstat gives you a progress indicator in terminal... try not to reboot unless resync is complete
[15:14] <shaneo> ok zykotic10 thanks ill check it out
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> mohd: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/    there is an indicator for CPUfreq if you desire
[15:15] <superlou> stefg, ah, watch! Was trying to remember that command.  If whatever metadata corruption had occured had hit 2 drives instead of one, would I have been hosed?
[15:15] <gaelfx> is there any current documentation regarding apt-p2p? everything I'm finding is for 9.04
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: tried apt-fast?
[15:16] <blnk> I'm trying to run the update manager but I get an error "failed to download repository information". The error is for "cdrom://Ubuntu 10.04 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release i386" should I just remove it since I'm using Ubuntu 12.04?  or should the repository be updated to something else?
[15:16] <zykotic10> gaelfx: if you want a easy local repo for multiple machine you also might want to check out apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng
[15:17] <stefg> superlou: yes... although i have re*created* arrays without losing data. if you use the same raid level and chunk-size you only get new metadata, but the filesystem will be o.k.
[15:17] <Ztane> xangua: wonder why this is not enabled anymore by default, it looks like someone vomited on my screen
[15:17] <mohd> ActionParsnip, Thanks , but want to have control for AC Adaptor/battery .
[15:18] <xangua> blnk: remove it from software sources, yes
[15:18] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: never heard of it, googling now
[15:18] <blnk> xangua: okay, thanks]
[15:18] <enzotib> gaelfx, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man8/apt-p2p.8.html
[15:18] <superlou> stefg, is there something i could run now to document the metadata before it's lost?  I'm assuming i built it with whatever the suggested Raid5 configurations were, but that was in the long ago
[15:19] <gaelfx> enzotib: already seen it, it's not very clear how to get it going in 12.04 though
[15:19] <_zimbo_> how can i stop X from starting automatically at after booting
[15:20] <ThinkT510> !text | _zimbo_
[15:20] <stefg> superlou: sudo mdadm --detail /dev/md0   ... and remember: raid is no substitution for backups
[15:20] <MilanFIN> can someone help me with my sound card problem, I'm having asus xonar DG and no sound... Using ubuntu 10.04 and alsa 1.0.24
[15:20] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: thing is, I'm trying to install skype from partner repos, but I'm in China and it's INCREDIBLY slow (it will take over 8 hours at the actual rate it's going, nevermind what it says it will take at current speeds)
[15:21] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: what does alsamixer reveal?
[15:21] <ubuntu_> why am i getting this error any clue :  kernel panic -not syncing out of memory and no killable process
[15:21] <_zimbo_>  ThinkT510 thanks
[15:21] <ThinkT510> _zimbo_: no worries :)
[15:21] <gaelfx> ubuntu_: it sounds like you're out of RAM
[15:22] <superlou> stefg, the raid's 2TB.  One day I'll be able to afford equivalent space to backup.  As it is, at least the odds of two drives dying are worse than one.  Maybe i'll use this as an excuse to buy an SSD for the OS and apps, and give the RAID5 2 spares
[15:22] <intore> hi, i've seen a strange thing today on my ubuntu 11.10. after rebooting in recovery mode, i inserted password root but i can't modify any file: read only flesystem. is it normal?
[15:22] <ubuntu_> gaelfx: i have 3G ram and i am getting this error at bootup
[15:22] <incog> HELLO
[15:22] <incog> INCOG HERE
[15:23] <ThinkT510> !caps | incog
[15:23] <Gnea> incog: please turn your capslock off
[15:23] <ubuntu_> gaelfx: at first i thought my ram got bad but replacing the ram is not helping
[15:23] <incog> NO
[15:23] <incog> I DECLINE
[15:23] <Ztane> intore: yes, you can try mount / -o rw,remount
[15:23] <incog> I LIKE TO SHOUT
[15:23] <incog> AND TO SUCK
[15:23] <FloodBot1> incog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:23] <stefg> superlou: a 2TB drive goes for ~100 bucks. rather have it a separate single drive and use rsync / rdiff-backup to do regular backups. raid will not prevent you from a borked filesystem or accidental deletion
[15:23] <MilanFIN> ThinkT510 my alsamixer doesnt show the card if I hit f6 but it is shown in lspci
[15:23] <house> #centos
[15:23] <gaelfx> Floodbot, I love you
[15:24] <MilanFIN> I have already posted to forums about this
[15:24] <hazard> Where do I look to shut off home dir encryption?
[15:24] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: and the first screen shows?
[15:24] <MilanFIN> wait
[15:24] <ubuntu_> why am i getting this error any clue :  kernel panic -not syncing out of memory and no killable process
[15:25] <motoko> Hi
[15:25] <ThinkT510> ubuntu_: something is sucking up all your ram
[15:25] <StevenR> ubuntu_: you've run out of memory, and you have no processes that the kernel can kill. When does that error occur?
[15:25] <ubuntu_> gaelfx: i have 3G ram and i am getting this error at bootup
[15:25] <StevenR> ubuntu_: what does memtest say?
[15:26] <MilanFIN> http://i.imgur.com/UzjpB.pngThinkT510
[15:26] <MilanFIN> that is the screen
[15:26] <intore> Ztane, thanks
[15:26] <superlou> stefg, true that.  A flat tire just took my computer budget and ran a few weeks ago, but it definitely sounds like a good idea.  Thanks for all the help!  I'm going to step away and let recovery do it's thing before i'm tempted to do something stupid
[15:26] <ubuntu_> StevenR: at bootup and memtest is giving the same error msg
[15:26] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: front mi is muted
[15:26] <MilanFIN> mi = ?
[15:26] <Ztane> intore: or if it has errors, then fsck /dev/yourrootdevice first
[15:26] <StevenR> ubuntu_: what do you mean?
[15:27] <intore> Ztane, on ubuntu 10.04 was not like that
[15:27] <MilanFIN> I cant even choose my sound card
[15:27] <gaelfx> ubuntu_: maybe you have some bad RAM slots
[15:27] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: also there is arrows on the right, can you see more bars when you go right?
[15:27] <Ztane> intore: it depends...
[15:27] <MilanFIN> ye
[15:27] <ubuntu_> gaelfx: i replaced my ram still no luck
[15:27] <MilanFIN> but that is not the ASUS sound card
[15:27] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: what do they show?
[15:28] <StevenR> ubuntu_: try with just one dimm?
[15:28] <gaelfx> ubuntu_: yeah, that's why I said slots. Perhaps the slots for RAM have gone bad
[15:28] <StevenR> ubuntu_: try a different slot? (could just be the "first" slot is bad)
[15:28] <MilanFIN> ThinkT510 what does it matter if that card is my INTEGRATED one
[15:28] <MilanFIN> not the ASUS
[15:28] <ubuntu_> StevenR:i tried that just plugged the 2G ram in master slot and no slave still it's not working
[15:28] <intore> Ztane, by the configuration?
[15:29] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: the first screen always shows the card that is in use
[15:29] <MilanFIN> yes
[15:29] <MilanFIN> and that is not asus?
[15:29] <StevenR> ubuntu_: don't use the master slot?
[15:29] <MilanFIN> I think
[15:29] <Dratono> Sigh, why do I always click the update button when it comes up
[15:29] <ubuntu_> StevenR: i have tried the other slot
[15:29] <MilanFIN> the alsamixer doesnt find the card http://i.imgur.com/SSgOi.png
[15:30] <StevenR> ubuntu_: sounds like the slots are faulty then
[15:30] <MilanFIN> I want to get sound to my headset
[15:30] <Dratono> Ok, 12.04 have introduced an extreme blurryness to text, moving the mouse is really slow and everything is slow, it's like the graphics card is broken or something
[15:30] <hazard> Can anyone tell me how to turn off the home directory encryption? I find that I can't currently afford the space it requires.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Dratono: what video chip do you use?
[15:30] <Dratono> I'm running ubuntu in virtualbox, was perfect 11.10, now it's totally broken
[15:30] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: can you show me the screen to the right please?
[15:30] <Ztane> intore: well yes, and ofc the conditions why did you drop into the rescude mode
[15:30] <MilanFIN> ye
[15:31] <Ztane> hmm
[15:31] <ubuntu_> StevenR: no it's not ram i think because when i pulled off my hdd it's woring fine through live cd
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Dratono: tried changing text rendering options?
[15:31] <MilanFIN> ThinkT510 here http://i.imgur.com/x38vl.png
[15:31] <ubuntu_> StevenR: then it's HDD but why ???
[15:31] <StevenR> ubuntu_: have you tried a different drive?
[15:31] <Ztane> nope, subpixel hinting still looks like sh*t in the top
[15:31] <Sidewinder> ubuntu_, Either bad ram or wrong type of ram?
[15:31] <Ztane> *bar
[15:31] <Ztane> ActionParsnip: there is no way of changing any text rendering options easily anymore :S
[15:32] <MilanFIN> I think you dont see that the options of the card we are looking at the moment are not the ones of the asus card
[15:32]  * alankila waits for the day when linux will do subpixel hinting rendering properly. I think it's going to require an opengl shader to do, if people insist on hardware-accelerated compositing though.
[15:32] <Dratono> ActionParsnip: the text is blurry with green and red mixed in, it's like someone took subpixel rendering and made it backwards
[15:32] <ubuntu_> StevenR: i dnt have one right now
[15:32] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: hmm, not sure what spdif d is but that is muted
[15:32] <StevenR> ubuntu_: it's possibly a software fault. Are you able to reinstall? Or possibly the whole motherboard is bad, or there could be some other psu/cpu problem.
[15:32] <MilanFIN> becouse I cant even see the card from alsamixer
[15:32] <ubuntu_> StevenR: what is the worst thing possible
[15:33] <StevenR> ubuntu_: I don't understand your question?
[15:33] <Ztane> Dratono: is the text blurred everywhere, or just the top bar in unity; mine looks ok everywhere else except the menu bar; the menu bar is as if someone had soaked it in water
[15:33] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: see the MM's in the bars? press m on those to unmute them
[15:33] <ubuntu_> StevenR: i am using my system without HDD in live session
[15:33] <StevenR> ubuntu_: so?
[15:33] <MilanFIN> but that is wrong CARD
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Dratono: if you search dash for the word:  font    does anything show?
[15:34] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: i prefer to keep it in channel please
[15:34] <ubuntu_> StevenR: do i have to replace my HDD then
[15:34] <Dratono> ztane: yeah, only place with text when I just started ubuntu so, but I fixed it by changing the background
[15:34] <StevenR> ubuntu_: try reinstalling
[15:34] <minas> hi. I recently upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04. After upgrading, the "hibernate" option has dissappeared... Does anyone know a fix for that?
[15:34] <MilanFIN> I need to make my alsamixer see my asus xonar card
[15:34] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: i don't know how to do that
[15:34] <Ztane> alankila: you ought to say: "waits for the day when linux will do subpixel hinting rendering work properly AGAIN"
[15:34] <MilanFIN> ok
[15:35] <gaelfx> where is sources.list?
[15:35] <ubuntu_> StevenR: with HDD in the system i am getting the same error msg whenever i am trying to reinstall on boot into live mode
[15:35] <oCean> gaelfx: /etc/apt
[15:35] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: maybe the driver just isn't there for 10.04 (are you using 10.04?)
[15:36] <alankila> Ztane: it never did work, imo, so...
[15:36] <gaelfx> oCean: thanks :D
[15:36] <ubuntu_> StevenR: without HDD it's working fine in live mode
[15:36] <StevenR> ubuntu_: what version of ubuntu?
[15:36] <MilanFIN> I am using 10.04
[15:36] <Ztane> alankila: it did work for me for 2+ years :D
[15:36] <ubuntu_> StevenR: 12.04 64 bit
[15:36] <MilanFIN> but updating alsamixer should do it
[15:36] <alankila> The problem is more complex than people appreciate, and consequently everything ever rendered by linux software comes out slightly color fringed
[15:36] <alankila> you just get used to it and don't pay attention to it anymore
[15:36] <stefg> minas: first check that /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume has the UUID for your swap partition (get that by sudo blkid)
[15:36] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: maybe
[15:36] <StevenR> ubuntu_: try 10.04
[15:37] <StevenR> ubuntu_: if that doesn't work, it looks like you have either a motherboard or HDD fault.
[15:37] <ThinkT510> MilanFIN: i'd get 12.04 if i were you, its suprisingly good
[15:37] <alankila> http://bel.fi/~alankila/lcd/lcd.png is linux and windows 7 rendering almost the same thing side by side, the bottom left result is the typical linux result
[15:37] <Ztane> I will soon rip unity off my computer, and replace it with kde, for good.
[15:37] <alankila> can be instantly identified by the extreme darkening of green text on violet
[15:37] <minas> stefg: That's what I get: /dev/sda1: LABEL="SYSTEM" UUID="58E82BA8E82B837C" TYPE="ntfs"
[15:37] <minas> /dev/sda2: LABEL="WINDOWS" UUID="181E32711E324850" TYPE="ntfs"
[15:37] <minas> /dev/sda5: UUID="57a2b277-23b7-46a4-8173-c692dd0dc6e7" TYPE="swap"
[15:37] <minas> /dev/sda6: UUID="0465889c-8bbe-4f44-88bd-8c48874d91f0" TYPE="swap"
[15:37] <minas> /dev/sda7: UUID="60631435-2cfb-444c-8c26-969db9b5ea75" TYPE="ext4"
[15:37] <minas> /dev/sda8: UUID="0ba45e58-ce46-4ba3-a772-38e737bf8a91" TYPE="swap"
[15:37] <ubuntu_> StevenR: i have important data on the disk can i get that out ??
[15:37] <mohd> Back.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> minas: use a pastebin in future please
[15:38] <DarkAceZ> Ztane: Gnome2 works on 12.
[15:38] <ThinkT510> Ztane: or just install kubuntu and not have unity there in the first place
[15:38] <zykotic10> MilanFIN: i take it, alsamixer then F6 doesn't list your card?
[15:38] <ThinkT510> DarkAceZ: no it doesn't
[15:38] <Sidewinder> !testdisk | ubuntu_
[15:38] <DarkAceZ> I got it to... Sorta.
[15:38] <DarkAceZ> A rollback tweak./
[15:38] <coolpro> Hello, how to reset default display settings for a specific user?
[15:38] <ThinkT510> !wfm | DarkAceZ
[15:38] <StevenR> ubuntu_: maybe. If it's a motherboard fault, then the disk is probably fine. If the disk is faulty, then probably not. .... There are usb-sata converters you could try.
[15:38] <DarkAceZ> wat
[15:38] <ubuntu_> !testdisk
[15:38] <Sidewinder> oops, no factoid on testdisk? Hmm..
[15:38] <stefg> minas, i doubt there's any sensible reason in having 3 swap partitions on the same disk ...
[15:39] <MilanFIN> zykotic10 YES
[15:39] <MilanFIN> someone got my problem :D
[15:39] <MilanFIN> it works on win
[15:39] <DarkAceZ> There's nothing wrong with what I said...
[15:39] <Sidewinder> ubuntu_, Testdisk is a data recovery program.
[15:39] <ThinkT510> DarkAceZ: gnome2 isn't supported for 12.04, it will likely break stuff
[15:39] <minas> stefg: I'm sorry, I don't even know what a swap partition is
[15:39] <Steevca> When i run hotot twitter client it just hangs and closes,i am ruining ubuntu 12.04.
[15:39] <Ztane> DarkAceZ: gnome2 really did not even work on 11.10
[15:39] <stefg> minas: you should have a complete backup of your windows and linux installation and clean up the mess before going any further
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> minas: it's like the pagefile in windows
[15:40] <Ztane> DarkAceZ: it "sort of" worked.
[15:40] <minas> ActionParsip: Oh, I see
[15:40] <rabbi1> just installed a new font, but my gnome fonts are changed to that :( how to get my default font back ?
[15:40] <gaelfx> I'm trying to get debtorrent to work, but after editing sources.list (as per debtorrent's manpage) I get the error that the package skype was not found, did I do something wrong?
[15:40] <minas> stefg: Ok, so do I have to remove the two of the three?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder: you can make one if you want ;)
[15:40] <motoko_> anyone suggest a GUI tool similar to Windows Task Manager in ubuntu?
[15:40] <xax> hey all! I have to get rid of some megabytes on my ubuntu .. I just find /var/lib/apt/lists/ports.ubuntu.com_ubuntu-ports_dists_oneiric_universe_source_Sources .. Can I delete it?
[15:40] <stefg> !swap | minas
[15:41] <stefg> minas: right ...
[15:41] <ThinkT510> motoko: xfce and lxde has taskmanagers
[15:41] <eutheria> what is the name of the icon theme that goes with ambiance?
[15:41] <coolpro> I was playing with Display settings on default user, and now the monitor is only displaying the view on Guest account.
[15:41] <stefg> minas: how much ram do you have ?
[15:41] <minas> stefg: Ok, I will read the link that obuttu has sent me for now
[15:42] <Ztane> alankila: no, actually, the text rendering needs to know the exact ordering of your subpixels to be rendered correctly
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: it can be whatever you want
[15:42] <Sidewinder> ActionParsnip, Thanks, I was askin' for ubuntu_ 's problem.
[15:42] <ThinkT510> eutheria: isn't tango default?
[15:42] <eutheria> ActionParsnip, by default it was set to something
[15:42] <Ztane> however I do not know where to change it anymore :D
[15:42] <coolpro> how do I reset display settings?
[15:42] <alankila> Ztane: sure, that's part of it. But it also needs to know the color space of your monitor, and it needs to do per-component alpha blending
[15:43] <alankila> the color space conversions and per-component alphas are currently just ignored.
[15:43] <Ztane> alankila: hmm yu might be right
[15:44] <xangua> (10:41:26) eutheria: what is the name of the icon theme that goes with ambiance? - ubuntu mono
[15:44] <alankila> bel.fi/~alankila/lcd/ looks still pretty bad in my 12.04 virual machine
[15:44] <eutheria> thanks xangua
[15:44] <alankila> the "Browser" result is imo darker than it should be and there's clear coloring of the text
[15:44] <gaelfx> I'm getting exactly the same problem when trying to install skype using apt-p2p
[15:45] <eutheria> xangua, ubuntu mono light or dark?
[15:45] <Trel> When you use smbpasswd -a (as root) to change another password and you have password sync on, what would prevent it from changing the login password of the other user?
[15:45] <xangua> eutheria: if the theme is dark...
[15:47] <eutheria> the reason why i ask, when i installed ubuntu i only did a console based system, i then added the cinnamon ppa and installed that be default, but i don't like any of the gtk3 themes,  they all have some quirk that irritates me
[15:47] <eutheria> so i figured i would use the default ubuntu gtk/icon themes
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: depends on the distro really.
[15:50] <rabbi1> texlive-base-bin is not installed... !! what could be the problem ? how to solve this ?
[15:50] <jrib> rabbi1: tell us what you are trying to do
[15:50] <eutheria> ActionParsnip, and that would be ubuntu, all i did different to install was use the alternative installer and not pick a desktop
[15:50] <Steevca> When i run hotot twitter client it just hangs and closes,i am ruining ubuntu 12.04.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: every ambiance theme I've seen seems to use Humanity icons
[15:51] <CaBa_> hi
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: run it from terminal, the output may help
[15:51] <rabbi1> jrib: installed a font, that screwed up my gnome fonts, then i reset my gnome fonts and the config to default.
[15:51] <CaBa_> what package would i install for a fully functional gnome desktop environment in precise? is gnome-desktop-environment sufficient?
[15:52] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[15:52] <rabbi1> jrib: now, i still have this one font, not the default SA NS, in all the places, i get that texlive-binaries eorror when try to reinstall --purge fontconfig files
[15:52] <ThinkT510> !notunity | CaBa_
[15:52] <jrib> rabbi1: pastebin command and full output please
[15:52] <CaBa_> ThinkT510: thx
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Steevca: is there a config folder anywhere in $HOME
[15:53] <ThinkT510> CaBa_: unity isn't as bad as i thought it would be
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:53] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: precise
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: Unity is a fully functional shell for the fully functional gnome desktop
[15:53] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[15:54] <robgraves> !commands
[15:54] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969426/
[15:54] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: yes, but i'm not to decide what WM is to be used at these desktops. so a discussion which shell is better or worse is useless :)
[15:54] <ThinkT510> !brain | robgraves
[15:55] <Trel> Sorry, got disconnected if anyone had replied
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[15:56] <jrib> rabbi1: earlier wwhen you said "i reset my gnome fonts and the config to default", what did you do exactly?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: you can use compiz wm in unity, or mutter (if memory serves) in unity2d
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: so you can decide and easily
[15:56] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: decide what?
[15:56] <eutheria> find a nice plain theme these days is hard
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: which WM to use
[15:56] <minas> stefg: It seems that I have three partitions (although I don't know if they are partitions or files) but the total size is 3.9 GB (same as my RAM). I think that's ok right?
[15:57] <Steevca> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[15:57] <rabbi1> jrib: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4989/reset-gnome-font-configuration .... Those five steps gconftool-2 --unset
[15:57] <minas> stefg: (for swap)
[15:57] <rabbi1> jrib: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .... later this
[15:57] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: as i said... i dont and dont want to decide that for dozens of users. i must provide them with the ability to continue to use their old environment. i'm not talking about removing unity here, i simply have to provide also xfce, kde and gnome as it is company policy. period.
[15:57] <jrib> rabbi1: so this error you see now is probably unrelated and was already there then
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: sounds like a lot of bloat, i'd contest the policy in a meeting
[15:58] <jrib> rabbi1: pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/tex-common.postinst  also what version of ubuntu is this?
[15:58] <ThinkT510> CaBa_: gnome2 is no longer available, if that is the gnome you want to give them
[15:58] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: there is no reason to
[15:59] <rabbi1> jrib: 10.04
[15:59] <CaBa_> ThinkT510: thats not an issue
[15:59] <ThinkT510> CaBa_: awesome, well i can highly recommend xfce
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: I gave you a how to so you can make it look like Gnome2, is that what you needed?
[16:00] <deamosreapos> Hello,
[16:01] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: i'm fine also with gnome 3
[16:01] <deamosreapos> Im running into an issue driver related, I got 2 screens attached to my pc, and when I install the restricted drivers I get a nice purple screen of death, if I keep the system drivers it does work
[16:01] <rabbi1> jrib: pastebin the entire content of tex-common.postinst ? its huge
[16:01] <jrib> rabbi1: yes
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: where is the issue then please?
[16:02] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos:  Glad you identified the cause... as to the solution, that might be more difficult to determine!
[16:02] <ThinkT510> CaBa_: lxde and enlightenment are also available, as is openbox
[16:02] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969451/
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: and fluxbox and enlightenment
[16:02] <CaBa_> oh right, enlighment is also supported.
[16:02] <CaBa_> but fluxbox isnt
[16:02] <jrib> rabbi1: add "set -x" below the first line
[16:02] <usuario_> olzz
[16:02] <usuario_> olzzz
[16:02] <usuario_> oklaa
[16:02] <usuario_> olaaa
[16:03] <rabbi1> jrib: okay
[16:03] <usuario_> olaaaa
[16:03] <usuario_> hi
[16:03] <usuario_> !¡
[16:03] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple I had to reinstall the entire system, (got some other weird errors I think my HDD is also dieing :() But should I do something to resolve this faster or not? Cause I dont think its good to run without proper drivers for a graphic card (I can use the things I want too I recon but still)
[16:03] <usuario_> hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:03] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: the problem is that when i login with the session type "gnome" i don't have any logout button and stuff like that... i only have "Applications" and "Places", the rest of the bar is empty
[16:03] <usuario_> fuck yours
[16:04] <mohd> This toshiba mutlimediakeys are disabled , am loking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[16:04] <usuario_> yes ye s
[16:04] <rabbi1> jrib: first line: is after "TEXMFTREES ?
[16:04] <Shanth> how to automatically run startx when booted
[16:04] <ThinkT510> Shanth: it should be: sudo service lightdm start
[16:04] <jrib> rabbi1: the first line is "#!/bin/sh -e" in your paste.  Below that one, add "set -x"
[16:04] <zykotic10> Shanth: it's a lot easier to use a DM if you want Xorg to autostart
[16:04] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: I'd want to sort out a dying hard-drive before anything else, failures to read the device might be behind the issues you're seeing
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !panels | CaBa_
[16:05] <deamosreapos> true that, but how to do that?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: try that
[16:05] <rabbi1> jrib: with out # or after # ?
[16:05] <mohd> So , where is System log Viewer located!
[16:05] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: i emptied my home folder before i logged in
[16:05] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: I've been bitten by that in the past, its a painful lesson when you waste hours trying to fix what you think is the problem
[16:05] <jrib> rabbi1: without
[16:05] <Trel> Is there any way with Samba to have it show up on the network as two machines?
[16:05] <rabbi1> jrib: \
[16:05] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah, done
[16:05] <jrib> rabbi1: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:05] <greenit> hi, how can i cd into a cd, which is mounted through clicking on it in nautilus?
[16:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: You could configure to run two separate instances on two (virtual) network interfaces
[16:06] <zykotic10> greenit: check "mount" and/or see ~/.gvfs (you might not have that?)
[16:06] <philinux> updatedb runs once a day. How do you increase the frequency
[16:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: But that'd be hard work. Easier would be to run a virtual machine to give a 2nd instance
[16:07] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah, "Errors were encountered ---- tex-common itrans-fonts texlive-binaries
[16:07] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple seems that the HDD is heatlhy according to the Disk Util
[16:07] <greenit> zykotic10, thx :)
[16:07] <jrib> rabbi1: you need to pastebin the entire output (there should be a lot of it)
[16:07] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: Check the /var/log/kern.log for any errors in reading disk
[16:07] <Trel> Damn, I hate windows sometimes
[16:07] <Trel> I have two shares, that require different credentials to access
[16:08] <Shanth> is ubuntu reads NTFS at the same speed it does for ext4 ?
[16:08] <Trel> Windows is caching the first one I login to preventing access to the second
[16:08] <sandertje> i want to confirm something: i'm want to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS. This will NOT delete any files in my home folder, right?
[16:08] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple what I should be looking for? (no clue what im reading or just searh for error?)
[16:08] <`prixon> what window manager are you using?
[16:08] <Shanth> GnoME
[16:09] <ThinkT510> sandertje: shouldn't, but backup first
[16:09] <zykotic10> sandertje: it shouldn't (fyi the LTS->LTS upgrade isn't scheduled until the first point release)
[16:09] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969462/   that's the max i could get, missing some lines from top
[16:09] <Shanth> is ubuntu reads NTFS at the same speed it does for ext4 ?
[16:09] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: The usual error is a drive not ready report ... usually lots of them
[16:09] <`prixon> since gnome-do stopped working as a docky, I find it hard to get along
[16:09] <Shanth> is ubuntu reads NTFS at the same speed it does for ext4 ?
[16:09] <vuongdothanhhuy> sandertje: in any circumstance, backup first, just in case.
[16:09] <jrib> rabbi1: dpkg -l texlive-base
[16:09] <Shanth> is ubuntu reads NTFS at the same speed it does for ext4 ?
[16:09] <ThinkT510> Shanth: stop repeating
[16:10] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple only error I find is: EXT4-fs (sdb2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[16:10] <sandertje> zykotic10: when will that be?
[16:10] <Shanth> ok sorry
[16:10] <coolpro> how to reset laucher placement in displays?
[16:11] <coolpro> laucher*
[16:11] <zykotic10> !schedule | sandertje
[16:11] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: i anyway did that reset thing, no effect. nothing in the panel except those two
[16:11] <rabbi1> jrib: no packages found matching texlive-base
[16:11] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: OK, that sounds good, so time to think about why the video driver does what it does. I suspect its an issue with grub's GFX (graphics) mode conflicting with how the hardware wants to be configured
[16:11] <ThinkT510> coolpro: moving the icons is simple drag and drop
[16:12] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: You could try reconfiguring GRUB to use text-mode
[16:12] <sazawal> any latex guy?
[16:12] <CaBa_> lol
[16:12] <coolpro> ThinkT510, nope, i'm talking about parameter under display settings (displays)
[16:12] <rabbi1> jrib: no packages found matching texlive-base
[16:12] <CaBa_> sazawal: dirty talk, ha?
[16:12] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple so instead of a graphically boot it gives me just text?
[16:12] <oCean> CaBa_: please move on
[16:13] <sazawal> CaBa_, no caba
[16:13] <Trel> IntuitiveNipple: I found a solution that works in my scenario, but it's not a good overall one
[16:13] <jrib> rabbi1: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[16:13] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: Yes. You'd edit /etc/default/grub and uncomment the line "GRUB_TERMINAL=console", then do sudo update-grub
[16:13] <CaBa_> sazawal: whats your problem?
[16:13] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: FYI, this is how the session looks like: http://photomics.org/nc18347y.png
[16:13] <sazawal> CaBa_, I want to add a large matrix in two lines, how to do it?
[16:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: it is an unusual requirement
[16:13] <CaBa_> sazawal: what do you mean by "add in two lines"?
[16:14] <sazawal> CaBa_, it couldnt be accomodated in one line
[16:14] <sandertje> zykotic10: ah ok. Why is that actually? Does that mean the 12.04 version as it is isn't actually fully ready?
[16:14] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969477/  ----- sources.list
[16:14] <sazawal> CaBa_, I have already used {smallmatrix} still not coming
[16:14] <jrib> rabbi1: run « sudo apt-get update » any errors?
[16:14] <esmirlin> can anyone explain what's vala and what's its benefits?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> CaBa_: gotcha
[16:14] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969478/ ------ sources.list.save
[16:15] <oCean> sandertje: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts
[16:15] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple so I now should reenable the driver and reboot the system en check whats going on?
[16:15] <jrib> rabbi1:
[16:15] <jrib> rabbi1: wait, why sources.list.save?  And not sources.list?
[16:15] <CaBa_> sazawal: well at some point you just won't wanna use inline math but make it an equation
[16:15] <coolpro> ThinkT510, i changed Laucher Placement to None, and i can't see any view
[16:15] <zykotic10> sandertje: it's assumed LTS users want a stable system, but ubuntu releases aren't exactly "tested" very well prior to release - so some real-world testing is typically required.  Thus the delay for LTS users.
[16:15] <jrib> rabbi1: never mind, I got confused.  I see you pasted both now
[16:15] <rabbi1> jrib: had both, so thought both and sent
[16:16] <ThinkT510> coolpro: oh, sorry, i've never messed with that
[16:16] <sazawal> CaBa_, I am using begin{equation}
[16:16] <jrib> rabbi1: he joys of having a small terminal window ;)
[16:16] <jrib> the
[16:16] <CaBa_> sazawal: can you paste the code in question somewhere?
[16:16] <sazawal> CaBa_, actually the problem is when I place half of the columns in one line I dont want to add a right bracket
[16:16] <_skpl> how do i install flash in ubuntu 12.04?
[16:17] <sazawal> CaBa_, and in the next line I dont want to add left bracket
[16:17] <coolpro> Is there any way to access Display settings and change them using commands?
[16:17] <jrib> !flash | _skpl
[16:17] <rabbi1> jrib: better is working one, small or big, i got big screen cant read even a bit.... what ever u type i am copying it in gedit and then following .... )
[16:17] <escott> sazawal, if you want matching \left and \right but dont want the \right to show do \left( \right.
[16:17] <sazawal> CaBa_, it is giving error that I have to add both the brackets
[16:17] <CaBa_> sazawal: can you paste an example that compiles and express what you'd like to change about it?
[16:17] <Marzata> what Ubuntu is best for a netbook?
[16:17] <sandertje> zykotic10: ah, thnx. I guess I'll have to wait till July then.
[16:17] <gaelfx> I have a Broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card and I'm using the STA drivers, but the connection I'm getting is only 65mbps, it should be able to connect at at least 150mbps though, as I have a router set for 300mbps connections, is there anything I can do to get my wireless connection faster?
[16:17] <ThinkT510> coolpro: can you bring up the hud or dash?
[16:17] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: one step at a time. Do the GRUB change, reboot, check its OK. Then install the proprietary drivers, reboot, test.
[16:17] <gaelfx> Marzata: depends on the netbook
[16:17] <CaBa_> sazawal: well if you use \left, you have to use \right. but you can use a dummy-\right
[16:18] <zykotic10> sandertje: you don't "have to" - you can choose to update now if you wish
[16:18] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple will do so then brb
[16:18] <Trel> IntuitiveNipple: that wasn't a requirement. My problem is I have two shares with different credentials. Windows caches the credentials from the first one I login to preventing me from accessing the second.
[16:18] <jrib> rabbi1: ok, anything interesting from « sudo apt-get update »?  (I know I started talking about something else since asking you to do that)
[16:18] <gaelfx> Marzata: what machine are we actually talking about here?
[16:18] <sazawal> CaBa_, how to use the dummy \right?
[16:18] <rabbi1> jrib: no errors, but stuck at 99%. this google stable shit
[16:18] <CaBa_> sazawal: \left(blabla\right.
[16:18] <escott> sazawal, \right.
[16:18] <CaBa_> sazawal: mind the period
[16:18] <coolpro> ThinkkT510: What is the hund or hash?
[16:18] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: I seem to vaguely recall there is a Windows registry key you can alter to stop that credential caching
[16:18] <sazawal> CaBa_,  \right with the dot?
[16:18] <jrib> rabbi1: you probably have more repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:18] <CaBa_> sazawal: yep
[16:18] <Marzata> gaelfx: lenovo s10-2, 2 GB ram,
[16:18] <rabbi1> jrib: no erros,.... done
[16:18] <ThinkT510> coolpro: dash = super key, hud = alt key
[16:19] <jrib> rabbi1: try again: dpkg -l texlive-base
[16:19] <sazawal> CaBa_, I have tried it ..... but let me try again with \right space dot
[16:19] <CaBa_> no space
[16:19] <Trel> IntuitiveNipple: if you come across it let me know, but the only thing I found is using net use * /delete and net use /persistent:no each time I need to switch, which of course prevents me from mapping a drive
[16:19] <mmc_> hello... i am having a weird problem trying to install ubuntu
[16:19] <Sky[x]> apt-get install gitosis  package not exist on ubuntu server 12.04 ?
[16:19] <rabbi1> jrib: no packages found :(
[16:19] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: plz be specific
[16:19] <sazawal> CaBa_, not working with or without space
[16:19] <rabbi1> that -l or -1 ?
[16:20] <coolpro> ThinkT510: still not getting what you mean. I can't see any view on my primary user anymore, after I change Laucher Placement to None. I can't only see view on Guess session.
[16:20] <jrib> rabbi1: what does « uname -m » return?
[16:20] <rabbi1> jrib: i mean "el" or "one" ?
[16:20] <gaelfx> Marzata: that's a 10-incher with 1024x600 resolution, correct?
[16:20] <coolpro> i can*
[16:20] <jrib> rabbi1: el
[16:20] <mmc_> ok, i'll try... when i boot the install cd, i get.... a garbled screen
[16:20] <CaBa_> sazawal: well sorry, but without code i can't help you
[16:20] <mmc_> the very first thing i get, is a garbled screen
[16:20] <Marzata> gaelfx: yes
[16:20] <gaelfx> Marzata: and an N570 processor?
[16:20] <rabbi1> jrib: x86_64
[16:20] <CaBa_> ActionParsnip: so any clue what might be wrong?
[16:20] <sazawal> CaBa_, can you come in private so that I can send you the code?
[16:20] <rabbi1> jrib: i got AMD
[16:20] <CaBa_> sazawal: just paste it to a paste site
[16:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: try this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-logon-windows-no-domain/
[16:21] <CaBa_> sazawal: such as pastebin.com
[16:21] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: which ver are you using?
[16:21] <jrib> rabbi1: essentially your postinst script is failing because it can't find the texlive-base package.  And your dpkg can't find it either despite the fact that it should be available (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=texlive-base&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all)
[16:21] <sazawal> CaBa_, okay
[16:21] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: any version....
[16:21] <ThinkT510> coolpro: not sure what you mean by "see view"
[16:21] <Marzata> gaelfx: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280   @ 1.66GHz
[16:22] <rabbi1> jrib: so unfortunately, i have install new ub untu ?
[16:22] <jrib> rabbi1: what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[16:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: also, possibly better, this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/turning-off-samba-user-credentials-cache-721057/
[16:22] <coolpro> ThinkT510: there is no view on the monitor on primary account. it is not working, only on guesst session.
[16:22] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: i have tried 11.10, 11.04, 12.04... both the livecd and the alt install cd
[16:22] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah, right, i think that was red gave some message,
[16:22] <sazawal> CaBa_, should I just send you the link of the page where I wrote it?
[16:22] <mmc_> this is what I get: http://ubuntuone.com/0ZKjH8JaNzJGUXrE0tzG1W
[16:23] <sazawal> CaBa, http://pastebin.com/Fa1a54b6
[16:23] <gaelfx> Marzata: ok, first things first, you'll need 32-bit, no matter which desktop environment you choose. I personally think that lubuntu will work best on that, however, you might want to use plain old ubuntu on it and then install lubuntu-desktop just to try it out
[16:23] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: x86_64
[16:23] <mohd> I've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[16:23] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: oops! sound strange
[16:23] <jrib> rabbi1: if you can pastebin the output from « sudo apt-get update » that may help as well
[16:23] <OutLander> outy
[16:23] <coolpro> ThinkT510: just monitor indicator led blinking.
[16:24] <ThinkT510> coolpro: i have an idea but it is a little convoluted
[16:24] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969510/  --- -sources.list.d
[16:24] <mohd> Going to a real console , and pressing multimedia keys does not show any output !
[16:24] <jose> saludos
[16:24] <coolpro> ThinkT510, what is that idea?
[16:25] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: did u look at my screenshot?
[16:25] <ThinkT510> coolpro: make a backup of your home folder then delete the folder and try logging in again, then restore what you need from the backup
[16:25] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969514/
[16:25] <rabbi1> jrib: ^ update
[16:25] <vuongdothanhhuy> yes, I did
[16:25] <CaBa> sazawal: stand by
[16:25] <IntuitiveNipple> mmc_: that looks like a video adapter/driver bug, I used to see those alot but not recently. The usual workaround is to edit the boot menu of the installer to set a specific known-good video mode, or not to allow the Linux kernel to use internal mode-setting (nomodeset)
[16:25] <ThinkT510> coolpro: that should regenerate the home folder with default settings (like your guest account default settings)
[16:25] <vuongdothanhhuy> I'm not a professional about Ubuntu, but I guess it's a problem about the VGA driver. Did you try the earlier one, like 9 8 or even 6 version? which use older different kernel source?
[16:25] <jose> tengo una duda estoy instalndo xubuntu y quiero instalar mysqladministrator, no lo concigo en el centro de software que hago ?
[16:25] <jrib> rabbi1: pastebin this too (you'll probably get an error): apt-cache policy texlive-base
[16:26] <coolpro> ThinkT510: I can't access my home folder or anything. I can only login to Guess session.
[16:26] <coolpro> Guest*
[16:26] <vuongdothanhhuy> IntuitiveNipple: but he can't even get to this screen to set settings!
[16:26] <gaelfx> !es | jose
[16:26] <vuongdothanhhuy> he said the very first stuff he gets is that screen
[16:26] <Marzata> gaelfx: thanks! what do you recommend: lubuntu, xubuntu or ubuntu-server+openbox?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Marzata: lubuntu :)
[16:26] <coolpro> I just simply need to edit the settings with command line. how do I do that?
[16:26] <gaelfx> Marzata: lubuntu is probably best, but server+openbox is a very fun idea :D
[16:27] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: is it possible to change the boot options on the iso before i burn it? b/c i cant pass any arguments to the boot while it's booting
[16:27] <ThinkT510> coolpro: may need to use either the recovery mode to get a root terminal or a livecd/usb
[16:27] <rabbi1> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/969517/
[16:27] <jrib> rabbi1: what's the output of: grep main /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:27] <Marzata> ActionParsnip: gaelfx: lubuntu doesn't have LTS?
[16:27] <pmp6nl> Hello all, how do I determine what user the web server is running under?  Thanks!
[16:27] <jrib> rabbi1: erm... hold on...
[16:27] <jose> thanks !
[16:27] <IntuitiveNipple> mmc_: Try this (blank screen/corrupted screen are symptoms of the same issue usually) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[16:27] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah
[16:27] <jrib> rabbi1: so what does this do now: dpkg -l texlive-base
[16:27] <Sna4x8> pmpnl: try ps -ef --forest |grep apache
[16:27] <gaelfx> Marzata: not sure, what makes you say that?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Marzata: the packages in the LTS are the same, so you will get updates
[16:28] <coolpro> Thinkt510: I can login to my primary user using SSH.
[16:28] <ThinkT510> coolpro: good idea, that would work
[16:28] <rabbi1> jrib: no packages found matching texlive-base
[16:28] <CaBa> sazawal: compiles just fine for me
[16:28] <Marzata> ActionParsnip: gaelfx: but not for the desktop?
[16:28] <jrib> rabbi1: wha...
[16:28] <_skpl> can someone help me? i just installed flash from the software center but i cant play flash movies on the web
[16:28] <CaBa> sazawal: did you include the amsmath package?
[16:28] <coolpro> ThinkT510: My question, how to change those settings using terminal?
[16:28] <jrib> rabbi1: oh wait that makes sense I guess
[16:28] <_skpl> it says i need and upgrade
[16:28] <ThinkT510> coolpro: no idea sorry
[16:28] <sazawal> CaBa, yes i did :(
[16:28] <jrib> rabbi1: what does « dpkg --configure -a » do now?  Still error out?
[16:29] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: yeah, try that solution first
[16:29] <sazawal> CaBa, you mean with \right. it is compiling?
[16:29] <pmp6nl> Sna4x8, it looks like www-data is on there the most.  Thanks
[16:29] <mmc_> IntuitiveNipple: i have seen all of those suggestions... but i can't see the screen to follow the instructions
[16:29] <Sna4x8> pmp6nl: That's the one.
[16:29] <ThinkT510> coolpro: but if you were to do what i suggested through ssh then that would restore default settings
[16:29] <pmp6nl> Sna4x8, Thanks!
[16:29] <Sna4x8> np
[16:29] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: IntuitiveNipple: it is garbled as soon as my bios screen is gone
[16:29] <CaBa> sazawal: http://pastebin.com/HAeUjVqV <= this is what i compiled, and it works just fine
[16:29] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: yes, I think there is a way to change it, lived CD use ISOlinux bootloader to load, just edit the file settings.
[16:29] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah, same errors
[16:30] <ThinkT510> coolpro: it is rather convoluted but the only thing i can think of
[16:30] <sazawal> CaBa, ohh let me see again
[16:30] <jrib> rabbi1: sudo apt-get install texlive-base
[16:30] <ThinkT510> coolpro: sorry i'm rather useless
[16:31] <CaBa> anyone on the "where are all my gnome-panel items" issue? :P
[16:31] <rabbi1> jrib: is chrome messing up something ?
[16:31] <balazs> Hello. How do I change alt+tab behavior so that it switches between all windows, not just the ones in the current workplace ?
[16:31] <Sna4x8> When I start 12.04: 1) aptd crashes. 2) colord crashes. 3) I get an error saying "Could not grab your mouse."
[16:31] <jrib> rabbi1: no, this is probably a bug in the .postinst script
[16:31] <Sna4x8> Of the three, I really care about 3 since I can't click anything!  Any help?
[16:32] <coolpro> Thinkt510: it's fine. I am wondering why noone else is replying in such easy question as display settings.
[16:32] <tori_> hello, what is the latest kernel in ubuntu?
[16:32] <CaBa> i cannot even right click the menu...
[16:32] <tori_> I am having issues installing virtualbox and cannot find the linux headers for my current kernel
[16:32] <jrib> rabbi1: it's actually been updated in the current version
[16:32] <sazawal> CaBa, ohh its working. Sorry there was error in some other line
[16:33] <rabbi1> jrib: seeting up texlive-libraries ,... hoping for some good news
[16:33] <sazawal> CaBa, thank you
[16:33] <CaBa> np O.o
[16:33] <Sna4x8> tori_: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[16:33] <sazawal> CaBa, dirty chat eh?
[16:33] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah, done. looks like no errors
[16:33] <gaelfx> !info linux-generic | tori_
[16:33] <CaBa> sazawal: yep...
[16:33] <sazawal> CaBa, lol
[16:33] <jrib> rabbi1: you can try « dpkg --configure -a » again now but it should be ok
[16:33] <CaBa> sazawal: now take that mask off!
[16:33] <sazawal> CaBa, I dont suppose that you are a girl
[16:33] <sazawal> :D
[16:34] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah, done ...
[16:34] <gaelfx> ladies, this is a support channel
[16:34] <CaBa> sazawal: what makes you think so?
[16:34] <jrib> rabbi1: you can remove the set -x from /var/lib/dpkg/info/tex-common.postinst now
[16:34] <rabbi1> jrib: am i safe until now ? :)
[16:34] <sazawal> CaBa, do girls really use latex
[16:34] <jrib> rabbi1: I think you're ok now, yes :)
[16:34] <rabbi1> cd /
[16:34] <CaBa> sazawal: they certainly do. doesn't make me one though.
[16:35] <rabbi1> jrib: sorry, that one goes to terminal
[16:35] <tori_> Sna4x8, E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.0.0-14-generic
[16:35] <tori_> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.0.0-14-generic'
[16:35] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: I found a way for you
[16:35] <gaelfx> !ot | CaBa sazawal
[16:35] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: yay!
[16:35] <sazawal> CaBa, lol, alright
[16:35] <rabbi1> jrib: yeah, clear :)
[16:36] <gaelfx> tori_: are you using 11.10?
[16:36] <rabbi1> jrib: should i reset the fonts now ?
[16:36] <jrib> rabbi1: that's up to you :)
[16:36] <CaBa> gaelfx: well i have to use my time *somehow* waiting for someone to answer my ubuntu question! :)
[16:36] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: try to edit isolinux config, open livedCD image, isolinux folder, edit the file txt.cfg as advised on the Internet or IntuitiveNipple's link.
[16:36] <rabbi1> jrib: but, still this font sucks.....
[16:36] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: the file txt.cfg contains what you need to edit.
[16:36] <ResQue> how can i find out which repo an application was installed from
[16:36] <rabbi1> jrib: following the font --unset procedure will do ?
[16:37] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings. I have become increasingly concerned about security/privacy; was using secure-delete 'sfill' to overwrite all free space - but this takes days, at least on this laptop. Any suggestions for something faster and as good?
[16:37] <mmc_> vuongdothanhhuy: thanks... i will try that
[16:37] <tori_> gaelfx, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04
[16:37] <ResQue> or even a package i find using apt-cache search
[16:37] <IntuitiveNipple> ResQue: apt-cache policy <package-name>
[16:37] <ResQue> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[16:37] <gaelfx> gmachine_24: tesla coil
[16:37] <escott> gmachine_24, use an encrypted filesystem
[16:37] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: if possible, try the old ones, like 6.06, 7.04, 8.04 or 9.04 ve
[16:37] <escott> gmachine_24, or an oven
[16:37] <vuongdothanhhuy> r
[16:37] <elijah> Is there a way to increase the size of system fonts and graphics in 12.04? I have a 1920x1080 15" laptop and sometimes it is just too small. I love the resolution for full 1080p video but not so much for text and I always find myself scaling webpages up so I can read them. Would be nice if I could set something similar to what Win 7 has to make every thing 25% larger.
[16:37] <vuongdothanhhuy> mmc_: maybe the old kernel works, but the new doesnot
[16:38] <gmachine_24> gaelfx, will check it out
[16:38] <escott> elijah, you need to adjust the dpi
[16:38] <derekchiang> what a shame, I just realized Empathy supports IRC
[16:38] <gaelfx> tesla coils are to hard drives as pvc is to spuds
[16:38] <Trel> IntuitiveNipple: will turning of caching completely remove the ability to have a mapped drive?
[16:38] <derekchiang> can anyone tell me if Empathy has a shortcut for addressing people?
[16:38] <gaelfx> derekchiang: supports is stretching it
[16:38] <gmachine_24> escott, actually, that is what I'm moving to - I am creating an encrypted area on the hard drives of my comps - but want to wipe everything clean first.
[16:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: I don't know the answer to that. I think you'll have to test it
[16:39] <gaelfx> derekchiang: Empathy's "IRC" is a travesty and a great example of how not to write an irc client
[16:39] <gmachine_24> escott, I suppose I could create the encrypted partition first and then wipe the rest - that would save time.
[16:39] <escott> gmachine_24, there isn't anything else you can do. you just have to write it all out with random data multiple times
[16:39] <derekchiang> gaelfx, you serious?
[16:39] <gaelfx> derekchiang: at any rate, irssi is much much better in so many ways
[16:39] <zykotic10> gaelfx: good think empathy isn't an irc client but an im client then ;)
[16:39] <derekchiang> gaelfx, it looks good, at least
[16:39] <gmachine_24> escott, agreed. I was just hoping for something a little faster.
[16:39] <rabbi1> jrib: anyway thanks :) have a nice day.... will try out
[16:39] <escott> gmachine_24, but if you just add an encrypted partition there will be areas of the encrypted partition which are never used and plaintext can be recovered from those areas
[16:39] <jrib> rabbi1: no problem, have a nice day
[16:40] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: Best thing is to randomise the surface of the drive first. I did by first creating a randomised 512MB binary in a tmpfs (RAM backed) file-system then wrote it to the hard disk using a while loop and dd if=randomfile.dat of=/dev/sdz
[16:40] <escott> elijah, the gnome-tweak-tool apparently allows dpi changes http://askubuntu.com/questions/66224/how-to-change-the-screen-dpi-in-11-10
[16:40] <gaelfx> derekchiang: people don't usually use irc if they care about how it looks ;)
[16:40] <derekchiang> gaelfx: hey I just realize Tab is the shortcut for addressing people
[16:40] <gmachine_24> escott, again, agreed - but that's if someone can break the encryption
[16:40] <derekchiang> gaelfx: good thought
[16:40] <Marzata> ubuntu server iso 12.04 mirrors' list url?
[16:40] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: The advantage of using a 512MB file is that its much master than dd if=/dev/urandom
[16:40] <gaelfx> zykotic10: that's debatable :P
[16:40] <gaelfx> (it being a good thing I mean)
[16:41] <escott> gmachine_24, no. the encrypted partition will leave gaps which are not used (the same way any other filesystem partition will be) so you see a cipherblock and then an unallocated block which might contain plaintext from a previous fs
[16:41] <derekchiang> gaelfx: last thing: Empathy and Pidgin, which one is better?
[16:41] <ThinkT510> derekchiang: better for what?
[16:41] <derekchiang> gaelfx: I'm kinda new to Ubuntu
[16:41] <gmachine_24> escott, ah, OK, thanks. Good point.
[16:41] <zykotic10> derekchiang: Yellow or Blue, which one is better?
[16:41] <derekchiang> ThinkT510: better for... chat in general
[16:42] <gaelfx> derekchiang: depends what you're trying to do. Pidgin has no real voice/video support, though it's been "in the works" for a few years now
[16:42] <escott> gmachine_24, so you have to write to every single byte
[16:42] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: That's why we always write random data to the entire disk/partition first
[16:42] <gmachine_24> escott, got it.
[16:42] <gmachine_24> IntuitiveNipple, so I should do this before installing the os?
[16:42] <ThinkT510> derekchiang: if you want a good irc client, use an irc client (rather than an im client)
[16:43] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: It's easier - you can do it from the live CD for example
[16:43] <zykotic10> ThinkT510: +1
[16:43] <gaelfx> derekchiang: Empathy is generally fine for most IM usage
[16:43] <gaelfx> derekchiang: Pidgin's development seems to have hit a brick wall as of late
[16:43] <derekchiang> ThinkT510: I used XChat usually.  although all I need is typing
[16:43] <gmachine_24> IntuitiveNipple, any reason I can't back up my current system into a tar file and then reinstall after the wipe? I suppose that will rewrite all the stuff I am trying to overwrite.
[16:44] <alusion> My Super key is not bringing up the activities in Gnome [12.04 LTS]
[16:44] <alusion> Is this a known issue?
[16:44] <gaelfx> alusion: did you check the hotkey assignments?
[16:45] <alusion> How do I quickly access that?
[16:45] <gaelfx> alusion: in system settings->keyboard I believe
[16:45] <ThinkT510> alusion: hold down super
[16:45] <gaelfx> alusion: also, are you using gnome-shell or unity? (if you don't know, it's probably unity)
[16:46] <alusion> gnome-shell
[16:46] <ThinkT510> oh
[16:46] <LgL_> when i try to boot my ubuntu i just end up in a tty 1 terminal window login. i check tty 7 and it is stuck in checking battery state
[16:46] <LgL_> no x is starting
[16:46] <LgL_> any ideas?
[16:47] <gaelfx> alusion: did you find the hotkey settings?
[16:47] <LgL_> and i try to restart gdm from tty 1 then everything just hangs
[16:47] <alusion> yes and under system I should be looking at "Show the activities overview" correct?
[16:47] <gaelfx> alusion: sounds right to me
[16:47] <alusion> It won't let me to change the shorcut to the super key
[16:47] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: If you can shuffle some existing space around to free up some... you could then use LVMs and just move the data and files around
[16:47] <gmachine_24> IntuitiveNipple, is there anywhere this process is spelled out step-by-step? You guys are over my head here about this.
[16:48] <gaelfx> alusion: does it seem to give any reason? or is it just greyed out?
[16:48] <alusion> Nope it just won't allow, I think this problem started when I installed Cairo dock?
[16:48] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: I think I wrote a couple articles about it a long time back... let me check
[16:49] <gaelfx> alusion: egad. hang on, bbs
[16:49] <gmachine_24> IntuitiveNipple, TYVM
[16:49] <alusion> o.o
[16:50] <LgL_> no one know?
[16:50] <Cantide> am i the only one that thinks that the bar at the top would look amazing if it kept the look it has while the HUD is in use all the  time?
[16:50] <Cantide> is there a way to set this?
[16:50] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: .... here's three I wrote. They were for Hardy but I still use the same procedures to do it now, albeit some steps are now taken care of automatically by the system...
[16:50] <ThinkT510> LgL_: have you got the "text" option enabled in grub?
[16:51] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyRAID5EncryptedLVM   http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyEncryptedLVM    http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/InstallToMultipleLVMsArbitraryEncryption
[16:51] <ThinkT510> !text | LgL_
[16:52] <gmachine_24> IntuitiveNipple, good, I needed more bathromm reading material. ;)
[16:52] <IntuitiveNipple> LgL_: First stop is to check the log files in /var/log/ , see which are most recently updated (ls -lstr) and check them out using: less /var/log/<file> and page up down
[16:52] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: :p
[16:52] <gmachine_24> :D kidding
[16:53] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: Start with http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/InstallToMultipleLVMsArbitraryEncryption
[16:53] <lotus-blade> is there an easy way to update the hosts file with my dynamic address
[16:53] <IntuitiveNipple> gmachine_24: Because that talks about encrypting individual LVM volumes not the entire drive
[16:53] <LgL_> my system worked fine till just one day it just stopped working. i did not do anything special :(
[16:54] <ThinkT510> LgL_: added any ppas?
[16:54] <coolpro> What's wrong with  12.04 displaying?
[16:54] <LgL_> hmmmm yhea.. some theme from webupd8
[16:54] <LgL_> i think
[16:54] <LgL_> but i never installed it
[16:54] <gmachine_24> IntuitiveNipple, yeah, that much I got on my own. But thanks.
[16:55] <LgL_> and some gnome ppas
[16:55] <coolpro> 12.04 isn't even working properly on YouTube full screen displaying...
[16:55] <ThinkT510> LgL_: and you didn't do anything special? haha
[16:55] <polm23> Hey, somethings weird with the nvidia drivers on my system
[16:55] <LgL_> ;)
[16:55] <polm23> Specifically I have a bunch of files in /usr/lib that are version 260.19.44 but aren't part of any package
[16:56] <user__> hello, the videos in my computer look very blue. How can I reset the settings so that the color will go back to the default settings?
[16:56] <LgL_> but it worked fine work like one week.. then this just hepped out of the blue
[16:56] <polm23> If I install nvidia-current I get 260.19.06, but the kernel module is still version 44, so there's an api mismatch and X can't start
[16:56] <ThinkT510> LgL_: probably because of an update
[16:56] <ThinkT510> LgL_: the ppa likely conflicted
[16:56] <polm23> How can I get the module version in sync with the files in /usr/lib?
[16:56] <ResQue> i delete a PPA and delete the software installed from it, but now when i try to install the software again by downloading the pidgin-ppa.deb file from there website. the option in software center to install is grayed out.
[16:57] <Yoshimi-pink> I want to take a program who's source code i wrote and install it in my system (11.10)
[16:57] <ThinkT510> ResQue: why are you using a ppa for pidgin?
[16:57] <pmp6nl> Hello all, is it safe to have the owner of files be www-data for a server?
[16:57] <LgL_> ThinkT510: mybe i just reinstall everything again. if there is no easy fix to this. im not a proffesional.. hehe
[16:57] <ThinkT510> LgL_: ppas are bad, stay away from them
[16:57] <ThinkT510> !ppa-purge | LgL_
[16:58] <ResQue> ThinkT510: i just wanted the latest version from them, but the real issue here is somewhere between removing and adding it in again something has been left over and i want to learn how to clean this issue up
[16:58] <Yoshimi-pink> I want to install a program on my computer
[16:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Yoshimi-pink: 2 ways: 1) add an install: rule to the Makefile and/or optionally make your source into a debian package and build it using debuilder... or the easy way, copy your executables to /usr/local/bin/
[16:58] <ThinkT510> ResQue: you say you deleted the ppa, how?
[16:58] <babilen> Yoshimi-pink: Ah, you obviously were very much aware that you asked in the wrong place, eh?!
[16:59] <Yoshimi-pink> no
[16:59] <Yoshimi-pink> no im not
[16:59] <ResQue> ThinkT510: first i delete it using software-source GUI, then i delete the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ then i removed the keys with apt-keys -r
[16:59] <Yoshimi-pink> i've gotten no information on the subject that i honestly dont know where to ask cause everyone is telling me to go somewhere else
[16:59] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | Yoshimi-pink
[16:59] <LgL_> thx for the tips :D  but maybe its a sign that i shuld install the ubuntu remix insted ;)
[16:59] <Yoshimi-pink> see how easy that was?
[17:00] <LgL_> me and unity are not bestfriends
[17:00] <Yoshimi-pink> thank you think
[17:00] <LgL_> ;)
[17:00] <babilen> Yoshimi-pink: I have also given you plenty of information in #debian on irc.oftc.net about packaging *for Ubuntu*
[17:00] <LgL_> anyone tryed the remix ver?
[17:00] <Brustofski-Fan> ubuntu 12.04 boardcom wireless... is theere away to adjust single? Can't even leave the roon with the laptop . when i had win 7 on it i could go outside with it !!
[17:00] <babilen> Yoshimi-pink: THIS: I would recommend to ask in #ubuntu-packaging, read Debian's NMG Guide (new maint) and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[17:01] <ResQue> ThinkT510: i have also run apt-get check, clean, autoclean and update, but i can not seem to run this PPA.deb file i download from pidgin. do you think something might be left over
[17:01] <ThinkT510> !ppa-purge | ResQue
[17:02] <user__> hello, the videos in my computer are blueish. All youtube videos look blue but some videos are showing the right colors. How can I reset the settings so that the color will go back to the default settings?
[17:02] <ThinkT510> ResQue: no idea, i don't use ppas and never advise others too
[17:02] <ResQue> ThinkT510: yes it was a dumb idea, thanks
[17:02] <IntuitiveNipple> user__: Several users reported that recently; not sure of the fix but it sounds like an issue with Flash player
[17:02] <Sidewinder> babilen, Yoshimi-pink You really had me 'scratching my head'; someone who can write source code but doean't know how to install/compile? I'm still scratching my head; with all due respect, of course. :-)
[17:03] <ThinkT510> user__: check flash settings, the fix is to do with hardware accelleration
[17:03] <bazhang> user__, fullscreen flash and disable hardware acceleration
[17:03] <IntuitiveNipple> ResQue: That PPA file probably has dependencies on OTHER library .deb files which you need also
[17:03] <user__> bazhang, ThinkT510 how can I do that?
[17:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Sidewinder: It might be helloworld.c !
[17:04] <babilen> Sidewinder: Likewise, but I am not going to question that further. Just wanted to make sure that Yoshimi-pink arrives safely in #ubuntu* land :)
[17:04] <ThinkT510> user__: rightclick in a flash vid and chose settings?
[17:04] <Brustofski-Fan> !Broadcom
[17:04] <Elsegundariio> eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[17:04] <ResQue> IntuitiveNipple: wouldnt it tell me when i run the PPA that there are dependences needed and not just gray out the install button
[17:04] <wylde> user__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[17:05] <user__> ThinkT510, bazhang, thank you it worked :)
[17:05] <Sidewinder> babilen, No problem, what so ever; just provocative and interesting, if you know what I mean. :)
[17:05] <gridbag> whats the app that lets me disable window animation?
[17:05] <IntuitiveNipple> ResQue: It should, yes, if it is loading the archiver app. What happens when you try installing it from a terminal using sudo dpkg -i <package>  ? that should tell you what is wrong
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> gridbag: myunity or ccsm
[17:06] <gridbag> ActionParsnip, why isn't that installed?
[17:06] <ResQue> IntuitiveNipple: thank you, i will try that now
[17:06] <LgL_> i checked the log files now and i think i found out what happend.
[17:06] <LgL_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/969603/
[17:06] <LgL_> its an update
[17:06] <LgL_> ;(
[17:06] <ThinkT510> LgL_: told you
[17:07] <LgL_> killed by samba
[17:08] <walidvb_> is there anyway to check if cpu still has full capacities?
[17:08] <gridbag> oh, that's why.
[17:09] <ThinkT510> gridbag: ccsm isn't recommended because you can very easily wreck unity
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> gridbag: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> !info myunity
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> gridbag: sudo apt-get install myunity
[17:10] <LgL_> ThinkT510: is there anything easy to do abut this?
[17:12] <ThinkT510> LgL_: about what?
[17:12] <chandan> hi, I am having some problem with installing team viewer in ubuntu 12.04
[17:13] <ThinkT510> chandan: works here
[17:14] <LgL_> this is how it look like were the system hangs in the boot
[17:14] <LgL_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/969630/
[17:14] <benjamindaines> for some reason I can't get into the grub menu at boot.  I've tried holding shift (using a mac with refit) from after selecting the boot drive in refit, from when the screen blacks before grub starts loading, and from when the blinking cursor at the top of the screen shows up.... all just end up at the ubuntu splash screen.  ideas?
[17:15] <smw> benjamindaines, I think you need to press escape
[17:15] <walidvb_> how can i check my cpu's health?
[17:15] <D4mian> hi guys
[17:15] <smw> or increase the wait time in /boot/grub/grub.conf
[17:15] <D4mian> i have a problem :-(
[17:15] <smw> walidvb_, health?
[17:15] <walidvb_> (i run the same apps as a friend, and my cpu usage is 5 times bigger)
[17:15] <D4mian> any can healp me please ?
[17:16] <ThinkT510> D4mian: then you want a solution
[17:16] <smw> !anyone | D4mian
[17:16] <benjamindaines> smw: in 12.04?
[17:16] <walidvb_> smw: i just want to check if my cpu is bad, and therefore if the problem comes from there or not
[17:16] <smw> benjamindaines, yes
[17:16] <D4mian> oks, tnx
[17:16] <walidvb_> smw: i have a friend running the same apps as me with lower config, and he has better performance.
[17:16] <D4mian> i have a problem with wifi
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> smw: you change wait time in /etc/default/grub   /boot/grub/grub.conf is not to be editted
[17:17] <D4mian> i have a broadcom , but is not working
[17:17] <KarmaComa> Hi, on Kubuntu 12.04 every time i disable DPMS i find it enabled itself after sometime!
[17:17] <D4mian> when i wake up today is not working
[17:17] <escott> benjamindaines, can your keyboard interact with the bios?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> D4mian: broadcom make a wide range of network devices using wired and wireless, which are you using?
[17:17] <smw> ActionParsnip, /boto/grub/grub.conf is great for temporary edits
[17:17] <walidvb_> smw: any idea?
[17:17] <smw> ActionParsnip, even if it is overridden when a new kernel is installed
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> smw: maybe but for permanent edits you should edit it in the correct way
[17:18] <smw> ActionParsnip, I agree
[17:18] <benjamindaines> smw: yes, should be able to anyway... I've gotten into it before but can't now for some reason
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> smw: good habits and all that ;)
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[17:18] <ActionParsnip> D4mian: wireless or wired?
[17:18] <D4mian> wireless
[17:18] <KarmaComa> DPMS people
[17:18] <D4mian> im conected by rj45
[17:19] <smw> benjamindaines, change the wait time so that the menu shows up
[17:19] <`prixon> I heard some people say that they're waiting for a while before installing 12.04 in order to wait for a more stable edition. how long would you recommend someone to wait? what is a reasonable amount of time?
[17:19] <jamiem93> Hello?
[17:19] <jamiem93> Could I get a bit of assistance please?
[17:19] <chandan> was disconnected...
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | D4mian
[17:19] <walidvb_> jamiem93: ?ask
[17:19] <smw> !ask | jamiem93
[17:19] <jamiem93> Right thanks.
[17:19] <chandan> I am trying to install teamviewer in 12.04 and go this error http://pastebin.com/4PzwYAbv
[17:19] <wylde> `prixon: until the point release, I believe that is in July?
[17:19] <walidvb_> smw: haha wrong syntax ;)
[17:19] <OerHeks> 'prixon, usually some people wait for 12.04.1
[17:20] <ThinkT510> `prixon: well, 10.04 to 12.04 upgrades usually start after the first .1 release
[17:20] <jamiem93> I have a Dell Inspiron 910 and it's showing me the unmountable boot volume error.
[17:20] <D4mian> but, im using the restricted soft from broadcom
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> chandan: what will you be doing on the remote system using teamviewer?
[17:20] <jamiem93> I've tried booting via USB and it's not showing the partition, is the SSD dead?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> jamiem93: I'd boot to liveCD and fsck the partition
[17:20] <jamiem93> I've tried.
[17:20] <chandan> ActionParsnip, some office work.. :)
[17:20] <jamiem93> It won't boot anything.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> jamiem93: hmm, doesn't sound great
[17:20] <smw> walidvb_, as for your problem, "cpu health" does not make sense
[17:20] <jamiem93> You think the SSD is dead?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> chandan: so accessing files to edit them?
[17:21] <`prixon> and then they will upload a new edition to the ubuntu site?
[17:21] <walidvb_> smw: i thought it wasn't really the right term
[17:21] <ThinkT510> `prixon: yes
[17:21] <D4mian> bus still not working, look if a make a iwconfing, say point: not-associates and the tx-power= of
[17:21] <D4mian> f
[17:21] <D4mian> why ?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> jamiem93: i've not used SSD so not aware of the finer points of them
[17:21] <walidvb_> smw: but i still need to check if it's still fully operationnal
[17:21] <chandan> ActionParsnip, may be... shall we talk about resovling the installation issue ?
[17:21] <jamiem93> Most netbooks use SSD.
[17:21] <jamiem93> I'm physically not able to boot anything.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> chandan: if thats all you need, you can install openssh-server and get an SFTP server you can mount using nautilus on a client machine, no need for teamviewer
[17:21] <ToMo_> i migated to ubuntu from mint, because heard of that the first one is better for mobile computers, and it is indeed, my laptop is not so warm now
[17:21] <smw> walidvb_, cpus tend not to break partially
[17:22] <polo> salut
[17:22] <jamiem93> I can run a distro using a USB but I can't install onto the partition.
[17:22] <smw> walidvb_, if your computer boots, your cpu is probably fine
[17:22] <jamiem93> It doesn't exist.
[17:22] <smw> walidvb_, (the same can not be said of ram which is why we have memtest)
[17:22] <D4mian> i make a wlan0 up and the system say: imposible becouse de frecunsy is desactivated
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> jamiem93: could use testdisk to reform the partitions if you know the size I guess
[17:22] <walidvb_> smw: hm ok... so where would you look for the problem?
[17:22] <chandan> ActionParsnip, good alternative, thanks :)
[17:22] <walidvb_> smw: i'll try that
[17:22] <jamiem93> I'vI haven't thought about that.
[17:22] <`prixon> I have a new laptop and I can't decide whether to wait for this release or part the drive already, cause I don't want to make the drive all messy before I install ubuntu
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> chandan: faster too, by a LOT
[17:23] <jamiem93> Can that boot via USB?
[17:23] <`prixon> what would you recommend?
[17:23] <smw> walidvb_, nothing in your computer can break making it run slower
[17:23] <chandan> ActionParsnip, but again.. I am curious to install teamviewer...
[17:23] <smw> walidvb_, at least, not in commercial setups
[17:23] <jamiem93> All I can get to is the windows loading screen, then it just hangs.
[17:23] <walidvb_> smw: so it's defo software
[17:23] <smw> walidvb_, must be
[17:23] <chandan> ActionParsnip, i will learn about open ssh :)
[17:23] <walidvb_> smw: hmm.. clean install could do, then, eventually..?
[17:23] <smw> walidvb_, at least not in consumer* setups
[17:23] <D4mian> any can healp me ? :-(
[17:24] <smw> walidvb_, no idea. I don't understand the problem
[17:24] <foolove> how can i toggle through top???  i run the top command and want to scroll down
[17:24] <rachael_> Hi can anyone help me, I'm having a problem with my sound. I'm on ubuntu 10.04 and I have had no problems with my sound but today I turned on the laptop and it detects no sound hardware.
[17:24] <walidvb_> smw: well, we run a sort of extended skype dev'ed by SAT in montreal, with manipulation of video
[17:25] <walidvb_> on the dev's computer, it runs with cpus at 40%, and here, on a better setup, they go to 100% almost all the time
[17:25] <`prixon> ThinkT510, wylde, 0erHeks, what would you recommend?
[17:25] <rachael_> ?
[17:25] <nibbler_> foolove, top does not allow this - use a smaller font to see more iirc. use ps to get a process list (efi or waxl as parameter)
[17:25] <smw> walidvb_, same hardware?
 can you healpme ?
[17:25] <walidvb_> smw: nope
[17:25] <ThinkT510> `prixon: 12.04 has been a pleasant surprise for me
[17:25] <walidvb_> our's is supposed to be more powerfull
[17:25] <smw> walidvb_, perhaps his hardware is faster?
[17:26] <rachael_> Can anyone tell me how I can update my ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04 without using a CD as im on a netbook, is there some sort of wubi for ubuntu?
[17:26] <smw> walidvb_, which one was quicker?
[17:26] <walidvb_> smw: he said that no
[17:26] <wylde> `prixon: if you're wanting to install the desktop version I'd say go ahead. I've been using 12.04 right from Alpha, I have had NO serious issues since release whatsoever. :)
[17:26] <smw> walidvb_, perhaps his hard drives are slower?
[17:26] <IdleOne> !upgrade | rachael_
[17:26] <walidvb_> smw: his has better perfs,  we have better setup
[17:26] <rachael_> thanks
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> rachael_: just run:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:26] <ozpy> Hi. I run ubuntu 12.04. My Sandisk SD card is not working and can't be formated on gparted. I used to have a recovery SD card software on Vista. What to do if I can read/write/format my SD card?
[17:27] <Khmerog> anyone familiar with joliOS? do you know if it is based on Ubuntu?
[17:27] <ozpy> Ubuntu recognizes the card but can't read/write/format
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> rachael_: or you can mount the alternate precise ISO and run the upgrade script there
[17:27] <`prixon> and what would you say is a suitable size for the ubuntu partition and was a suitable size for the windows-7 one?
[17:27] <derekchiang> d
[17:27] <smw> walidvb_, there are numerous reasons that I do not feel like debugging
[17:27] <rachael_> rachael@rachael-laptop:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:27] <rachael_> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[17:27] <rachael_> No new release found
[17:27] <IdleOne> Khmerog: it is based on Ubuntu but not supported here. try the jolios forums
[17:27] <smw> walidvb_, most of them being he has better or worse hardware
[17:27] <computa_mike> quick question : Tried knocking up a quickly application, using ubuntu quickly.  I've noticed that if you pop a toolbar onto a glade designer form, there's no option to add any toolbar buttons onto it - anyone else getting this?
[17:27] <walidvb_> smw: ok, any pointers though maybe?
[17:27] <nibbler_> hi. i'm trying to upload a config file from a switch to my tftpd-hpa default installation. sadly it times out on the switch, the chatter of the failed upload is here:http://nopaste.info/6e7d2f373a.html - i seems like the tftp server is not opening the (agreed on?) port?
[17:27] <walidvb_> he has worse
[17:28] <wylde> `prixon: I'm probably not the best to advise on that, I only have my ubuntu partitions :) /boot / and /home
[17:28] <Khmerog> damn..i was hoping they had a IRC room but  :(
[17:28] <smw> walidvb_, did his take longer overall?
[17:28] <oCean> rachael_, ActionParsnip you have to pass the -d option to do-release-upgrade, by default it will ony show a new .1 release, so 12.04.1
[17:28] <smw> walidvb_, it could have been waiting on IO (hard drives)
[17:28] <Khmerog>  /join lubuntu
[17:28] <walidvb_> it's not about time, it's about cpu usage while running the app. it introduces enormous latencies on our side. video is buffered in the RAM, though, so that could also be it(?)
[17:29] <ThinkT510> `prixon: i use 10gb partition for ubuntu, only 6gb full, but i have a seperate storage partition
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> oCean: -d is for the deveopment release, which precise isn't anymore
[17:29] <Khmerog> i have seen videos of workspace switchers, when they switch its like a 3d cube how do i get this?
[17:29] <oCean> ActionParsnip: then it will not show a "new" release until 12.04.1
[17:29] <IdleOne> Khmerog: ask the jolios people
[17:30] <Khmerog> actually its for Ubuntu
[17:30] <Sir_Leto> The Ati catalyst menu doesn't have overscan settings, could I possibly do this via x.org configs?
[17:31] <Sir_Leto> I haven't touched them since the 8th grade, when ubuntu had problems with intel integrated video cards.
[17:31] <bazhang> !ccsm > Khmerog
[17:31] <wylde> Khmerog: that's provided by compiz, and it doesn't play nice with unity. I've tried :)
[17:31] <smw> walidvb_, you could nice the program to bring down latency
[17:31] <smw> walidvb_, but using more cpu is considered a good thing because things get done faster
[17:31] <ghabit> hello. Anyone using eiskaltdcpp? transmission 'steals' all the magnet links (
[17:32] <walidvb_> smw: i do have CPU overheat sometimes when i boot, btw... :/ but fans are running and all, so i don't know why
[17:32] <VirtualBlackness> Sir_Leto: you would have to create a custom modline. Is a bit of a pain.
[17:32] <walidvb_> smw: hm i have a lot of quality constraints as well, and the app is simply heavy on cpus
[17:32] <calico> Hello! I cannot start my Windows 7 and I need to open it, help please
[17:33] <smw> walidvb_, that is what nice is for
[17:33] <smw> walidvb_, also, overheating cpu is a hardware problem :-P
[17:33] <bazhang> calico, is ubuntu related somehow?
[17:33] <walidvb_> smw: let me google that
[17:33] <walidvb_> ^^
[17:33] <ozpy> Hi. My sandisk sd card can't be readed/formatted (not locked)... 12.04 detects it but can't do anything. The SD card is the issue. How to recover it?
[17:33] <smw> walidvb_, get one of those cool liquid cooling systems :-P
[17:33] <`prixon> sorry, I got d/c
[17:33] <walidvb_> smw: that's why i was looking in that direction at first.
[17:33] <`prixon> and what would you say is a suitable size for the ubuntu partition and was a suitable size for the windows-7 one?
[17:33] <ThinkT510> `prixon: i use 10gb partition for ubuntu, only 6gb full, but i have a seperate storage partition
[17:33] <calico> bazhang, of course, before installing ubuntu I was able to boot my Win7 ....
[17:33] <walidvb_> smw: haha might do, or just change the computer :D
[17:34] <Sidewinder> In terminal, currently in my /home, what parameters do I need to use to cd to my external usb (sdc1) hard drive? I've tried cd /dev/sdc1/a-directory and just cd /dev/sdc1 and keep getting blah, blah "Not a directory. It's mount-point is sdc1 along with the disks uuid.
[17:34] <bazhang> calico, dual boot or wubi
[17:34] <calico> bazhang, dual boot
[17:34] <ThinkT510> `prixon: win7 is anyones guess, certainly not less than 20gb
[17:34] <stefg> ozpy: Can you see it using 'sudo fdisk -l'  ?
[17:34] <Khmerog> thank you bazhang for that info about the workspace "cube" and other customizations
[17:35] <calico> bazhang, there is win7 in grub or whatever (when starting the pc) but cannot start it
[17:35] <alankila> Sidewinder: confusion about what mount point means. /dev/sdc1 is the device node, not the mount point.
[17:35] <alankila> Sidewinder: to actually mount it, you write a command very much like "mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/somewhere" where you make a nice directory to mount it in first
[17:35] <Guest26521> ciao
[17:35] <Guest26521> !list
[17:36] <Sidewinder> alankila, It's already mounted; it's mount point is it's uuid.
[17:36] <ozpy> stefg: yes pal. I can see it. http://pastebin.com/Jp1Nw04T
[17:36] <computa_mike> oh - can I throw this out to the room - looking for ideas.... I had been trying to develop a Random DVD picker (would pick a random DVD from my collection).  Wanted an application that would run on Windows,Linux (ubuntu) and Macintosh (more as a test of x platform dev).  I tried TitaniumStudio, but while it works under windows fails miserably under ubuntu.  Any ideas for alternatives I could try?
[17:36] <alankila> Sidewinder: and where is it mounted?
[17:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Sidewinder: usually the system auto-mounts each media device in /media/xxxxxxxx
[17:36] <walidvb_> smw: thanks for your help. i guess i have to keep looking into it
[17:36] <smw> walidvb_, good luck
[17:36] <walidvb_> smw: cheers
[17:37] <Khmerog> grub or dual booting problem get Boot Repair app
[17:37] <Khmerog> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:37] <Sidewinder> alankila, On the desktop, I believe.
[17:37] <calico> Khisanth,  thanks I will try it now
[17:37] <VirtualBlackness> computa_mike: why not just playlist/random in vlc?
[17:37] <alankila> Sidewinder: okay, probably under /media then.
[17:37] <ozpy> stefg: I used to have a recovery software on Vista for cases like these. But I don't remember the name and run ubuntu only
[17:37] <Sidewinder> Let me try media..
[17:38] <computa_mike> VirtualBlackness: these are actual DVD's sitting on a shelf, as opposed to video clips - good idea though, and I had no idea I could do that.
[17:38] <stefg> ozpy: is the sd card really formatted with a linux file system ? (Apart from sda needing a partition table fix fdisk says the sd card is a linux filesystem)
[17:38] <computa_mike> VirtualBlackness: I'm looking to write some reviews of the DVD's, and I wanted a random picker.
[17:38] <`prixon> ok, thanks
[17:39] <Sidewinder> alankila, Same thing: cd: /media/sdc1/AzureusDownloads: No such file or directory
[17:39] <VirtualBlackness> So you would have to manually enter your entire collection to some sort of db, and then randomize?
[17:39] <alankila> Sidewinder: type "mount" and look for where /dev/sdc1 is mounted, if indeed it is mounted
[17:39] <Sidewinder> alankila, Do I need to replace the sdc1 with the uuid?
[17:40] <D4mian> anyone can healp me whit my wifi please ?
[17:40] <alankila> Sidewinder: maybe. Or label. Or whatever it chose to use if it has been automounted under /media
[17:41] <ozpy> Stefg: It was formatter on Fat32 then I formatted it to EXT3... I did format in different kinds in the past. But now it's not working
[17:41] <stefg> ozpy: so partition type 83 is plausible, right?
[17:41] <stefg> !info testdisk | ozpy
[17:41] <computa_mike> VirtualBlackness: That was the plan - I was going to import a spreadsheet (I have a spread sheet) into something like SQLlite, and then query that.  I have the data access for that done - but was struggling finding a cross platform way of running it.
[17:42] <stefg> !info photorec
[17:42] <PW-toXic> hi, i have ubuntu 10.4 and i want to update to 12.4 .. how can I do this?
[17:42] <zykotic10> stefg: photorec is in the testdisk package
[17:42] <Sidewinder> alankila, Yea, it's the uuid; that's what's been throwing me off. I thought that since it showed up as sdc1, under lshw, that I could just use that and save some typing; I guess not,, :( Thank you very much for the help.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | PW-toXic
[17:42] <stefg> zykotic10: thanks, didn't know that
[17:42] <ozpy> Stefg: I have no clue about type 83 thing.. I can give a try if you instruct me how.
[17:43] <stefg> ozpy: what happens if you give 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt'
[17:44] <PW-toXic> ActionParsnip, do i need to update to all versions in between?
[17:44] <zykotic10> ozpy: when you say you reformatted, did you delete the windows partition and create a linux one first?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> PW-toXic: no, you can upgrade LTS -> LTS directly ;)
[17:44] <Anyone754> How do you configure ubuntu to boot like the way knoppix boots?
[17:44] <madpup> Hi, ive just upgraded to 12.04 and im getting a boot lockup where the screen stays black and the capslock flashes, but it doesnt happen all the time.  any ideas?
[17:45] <zykotic10> PW-toXic: the LTS->LTS upgrade isn't offered by default until the first point release, see !schedule for date.  (it's possible now, but i don't know how)
[17:45] <stefg> madpup: that's a kernel panic.... check your hardware (memtest+)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> madpup: flashing capslock etc is a kernel panic
[17:46] <PW-toXic> zykotic10, so how about updating through all minor versions?
[17:46] <madpup> darn.............hope my laptop isnt busted. to memtest!!!! brb
[17:46] <PW-toXic> !schedule
[17:46] <zykotic10> PW-toXic: that's insane
[17:46] <distsys> Hello Ubu tu Community :)
[17:46] <PW-toXic> zykotic10, why?
[17:47] <wylde> PW-toXic zykotic10 : you can do it now with 'do-release-upgrade -d'
[17:47] <foolove> are gzip and gunzip the same thing?
[17:47] <foolove> same utility
[17:47] <ozpy> zykotic18:  I formated SD card to EXT3 only
[17:48] <distsys> hey i have updated my 12.04 successfully with the dual command apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, but when i launched the apdate manager it says that there is 6 packages that still need updates ?
[17:48] <zykotic10> ozpy: formatting and partitioning are not the same thing
[17:48] <zykotic10> !tab > ozpy
[17:48] <distsys> Could you say please what is the difference between apt-get and update manager ?
[17:48] <distsys> ?
[17:48] <distsys> Any suggestion please ? :)
[17:48] <StevenR> distsys: yes, upgrade doesn't do some packages, you want dist-upgrade
[17:48] <oCean> foolove: gunzip does nothing else than a 'exec gzip -d'
[17:49] <stefg> ozpy: did you try to mount the card? (see above for command) Any error messages ?
[17:49] <StevenR> distsys: I use:  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:49] <calico> Khisanth,  it did no work ....
[17:49] <ozpy> stefg: One sec. Almost there. Had an issue with my terminal
[17:50] <Anyone754> How do configure the ubuntu boot process to automaticly scan and reconfigure hardware?
[17:50] <calico> Khisanth,  all it did is it created a Windows Vista option in grub and can't load id nor can I load my win7
[17:50] <stefg> Anyone754: you don't... it does that already
[17:50] <Khmerog> anyone754 doesnt it do it automatically
[17:51] <stefg> !grub | calico
[17:51] <Anyone754> not very good, when booting on multiple computer systems.
[17:51] <calico> stefg, I installed ubuntu over my win7 not the other way around
[17:52] <jjtcomkid> For some reason, I cannot log in to my main account, but my other temporary accounts work.  I am running 12.04 and whenever I try to login to my main account, I end up back at the login screen
[17:52] <calico> stefg, i just ran the grub repairing thingy and it gave me that http://paste.ubuntu.com/969690/
[17:52] <distsys> StevenR: So you use the distupgrade instead of upgrade
[17:52] <ozpy> stefg: http://pastebin.com/r3vwJCzF
[17:52] <damian0815> hey #ubuntu, need some help with an upstart job. how can i pass env variables from one job to another?
[17:52] <Anyone754> Is there a way to make the ubuntu boot process similar to knoppix?
[17:52] <aguitel> anyone knew de guy erUSUL ?
[17:53] <distsys> but distupgrade will upgrade to the next distribution if available
[17:53] <distsys> :)
[17:53] <distsys> no ?
[17:53] <damian0815> more info: i am using dbus-launch in jobA.conf to get $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID, i want to pass these two variables to jobB.conf
[17:53] <yothsoggoth> jjtcomkid: What happens if you try to login on a tty? (press Ctrl+Alt+F1, type your username and password when prompted). Don't forget to press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to normal
[17:54] <Khmerog> anyone rubbing ubuntu with hardware specs lower than Pnetium 4 1.7Ghz + 2GB Ram? if so how is the performance? is it slow?
[17:54] <bazhang> distsys, thats not right
[17:54] <zykotic10> yothsoggoth: FYI you don't need CTRL in VT to switch, just ALT+F7 will work to return to Xorg
[17:54] <distsys> bazhang: what is right so ? :)
[17:54] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | distsys
[17:55] <yothsoggoth> zykotic10: thanks for the tip :D
[17:55] <jjtcomkid> the terminal works as normal
[17:55] <stefg> ozpy: 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt'  ... no typos allowed
[17:55] <patson> hmm.. right. after the latest batch of security updates, the flash plugin stopped working in chromium and firefox. any ideas?
[17:55] <bs0d> Good day everybody
[17:55] <bazhang> patson, blue video?
[17:55] <yothsoggoth> jjtcomkid: Have you tried using a different Desktop Environment when you log in? If you click the little icon on the login prompt you should see options for things like Fallback Mode or something, see if you can login to that maybe?
[17:56] <ozpy> stefg: Now i was able to format it back to fat 32 but I can't open it.
[17:56] <Gallomimia> i thought we used ubuntu so there wouldn't be a bs0d?
[17:56] <patson> bazhang: no, it doesn't even load.
[17:56] <stefg> ozpy: your command was wrong
[17:56] <jjtcomkid> yeah, ive tried all of them
[17:56] <yothsoggoth> jjtcomkid: and the same thing happens for each one?
[17:56] <jjtcomkid> yep
[17:56] <oCean> aguitel: if you have something that is not support specific, you could try #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-irc or our operator channel #ubuntu-ops
[17:56] <noneusr> hello anyone know if the printer canon imageclass d761 is compatible with ubuntu?
[17:56] <wylde> Khmerog: only example I have is a pair of old machines (1.3GHz 256MB RAM) that are thin clients using lubuntu-desktop fro a "server" (Core Duo 3.2 GHZ, 4 GB RAM) and they run great :)
[17:56] <stefg> ozpy: ok... so you don't want to recover data, you just want to reformat it and have an empty drive ?
[17:56] <calico> ok, I NEED to start my Windows 7, could someone really help me. It's dual boot, I installed ubuntu over my win7. I tried the repair boot thingy but it didn't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/969690/
[17:57] <jjtcomkid> the screen shows Checking battery state: [OK] and then goes back to the login screen
[17:57] <bazhang> noneusr, what does linuxprinting.org have to say abou t that printer
[17:57] <ozpy> stefg: Yes.
[17:57] <distsys> ok so
[17:57] <stefg> ozpy: ahhh ... thats easy
[17:57] <Gallomimia> wylde: used to use p90 as the thin client and the p1.3g and 256mgb ram as the host ;)
[17:57] <distsys> please how can i access the synaptic manager in the 12.04 ?
[17:57] <yothsoggoth> jjtcomkid: Well I'm out of suggestions I'm afraid. Your best bet is probably to see if you can find a bug report if somebody else has the same problem, if not file one yourself
[17:58] <distsys> is it already installed ? :)
[17:58] <wylde> Khmerog: I'm sure the specs you mentioned should handle it fine, although if you use a lighter desktop say lubuntu-desktop, IMO it will run great :)
[17:58] <ozpy> stefg: i want to be able to use it. It's formated to fat32 on gparted... but man, I can't write or read it. it's not locked
[17:58] <patson> hmm, nevermind.. reinstalling flashplugin-installer fixed it
[17:58] <stefg> ozpy: first of all lets get rid of all the junk: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
[17:58] <distsys> !synaptic
[17:58] <jjtcomkid> How should I do that?
[17:58] <aselox> is there a keyboard combination to open the unity Dash?
[17:58] <bs0d> I had only one signle user who uses X desktop, now I have created another user .. how to set up graphical login prompt that I could choose user account to log in ?
[17:58] <Anyone754> reinstall windows 7 and to configure grub
[17:58] <yothsoggoth> jjtcomkid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:59] <jjtcomkid> Thank you.
[17:59] <ki4ro> Thought synaptic went away?
[17:59] <stefg> ozpy: say when it's done ...
[17:59] <Khmerog> thanks wylde and yes lubuntu runs great on my Laptop but it is very XP-like so it looks boring
[17:59] <justin__> Hey #ubuntu, I haven't been able to find an answer to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124087/ring-switcher-is-not-automatically-selecting-the-windows-on-key-release, can anyone help?
[18:00] <wylde> Khmerog: the defult yeah, You could try Xubuntu, those spec should handle that exceptionally well to.
[18:00] <wylde> Khmerog: you can always customize the desktop, a little work and ou can have a killer desktop ;)
[18:00] <joe_smack> hold superkey for unity keyboard shortcuts
[18:00] <Gallomimia> so... i was struggling to get a livecd to install ubuntu last night. no idea why it failed still. but i have to share with the channel that after making it clear that i didn't want to boot this cd while his windows drive is plugged in, my friend, after i go to sleep, plugs the windows drive in and formats it with the live cd. trying to feel sympathy but that's like being upset that you cut yourself with a knife.
[18:00] <Khmerog> in terms of hardware-less specs  it goes Lubuntu -->Kubuntu-->ubuntu correct?
[18:01] <wylde> Khmerog: lubuntu-> Xubuntu  -> IMO ubuntu vs kubuntu is a trade-off.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: just use your backups...
[18:02] <Gallomimia> ActionParsnip: its not my computer and i don't care about backups.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Khmerog: you can make ubuntu even lighter by installing minimal, then installing openbox and slim :)
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: i see
[18:02] <wireless> hi does ubuntu support PC's with lots of RAM? 16gigs?
[18:03] <bs0d> Could you please give me some manual on how to configure login prompt in default Ubuntu window manager? I have never used it before, unfortunately and need some help
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Khmerog: should come in at little over 1Gb installed
[18:03] <Gallomimia> lots of ram.
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> wireless: 16Gb isn't lots of RAM
[18:03] <escott> wireless, yes
 If you've installed ubuntu over windows, then you would need to reinstall windows. Boot into ubuntu and then get online to search how to modify grub. You can download and use the ubuntu alternate disk to reinstall grub.
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> wireless: the 64Bit Ubuntu can support 4Eb of RAM
[18:03] <Khmerog> 16gb of ram...thats a lot for a PC
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Khmerog: not in this day and age
[18:04] <Gallomimia> it is "lots" of ram in the personal department
[18:04] <Khmerog> but thanks u guy i will download ubuntu 32 bit to try out..
[18:04] <wireless> wow! Thanks guys
[18:04] <Gallomimia> if you're talking about servers your sticks should probably be that size each
 There are ways to edit grub through the terminal
[18:04] <Khmerog> all Linux OS distros use GRUB for booting, correct?
[18:04] <stefg> Khmerog: can you imagine that servers might have 256G of RAM... even more for scientific machines?
[18:04] <wireless> Has anyone else been having loads of problems with ubuntu 12.04? I had tons of issues with it..all kinds of bugs. Lots of programs wont work, the unity menu is ALL messed up..and I've had friends say the same.
[18:04] <calico> Anyone754, I meant I installed it allogside Win7. I ran the repair grub program, all it did is it added vista to the menu...
[18:05] <ozpy> stefg: sorry about that but my sistem crashed when I introduced the last instructions you gave me
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Khmerog: some uses LILO, but its rare
[18:05] <ozpy> It completely froze
[18:05] <wylde> Khmerog: can't say for sure, but it's most common.
[18:05] <justin__> wireless: same here. unity in particular is really messed up, especially the window switchers, e.g. ring switcher etc
[18:06] <ozpy> Stefg: I notice I can't scroll up on this chat too. Please send the instructions again. Sorry about that. Dont'  know what happened
[18:06] <kapz> how do i minimize evolution to tray like deluge or xchat? Am using ubuntu 12.04 gnome.
[18:06] <ChrisH_> Hi, I have dual booted windows and ubuntu. But I would like to directly load ubuntu without going through the grub menu
[18:06] <ChrisH_> How di I do that?
[18:06] <ChrisH_> *do
[18:06] <Fyodorovna> ChrisH_, did you install ubuntu from windows?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ChrisH_: Grub is needed, even if you single boot
[18:06] <escott> ChrisH_, it should have a timeout. if you just wait it should boot ubuntu
[18:07] <ChrisH_> Fyodorovna: No
[18:07] <yothsoggoth> ChrisH_: you can just set the GRUB timeout to 0 or 1, then it will pretty much boot straight into ubuntu
[18:07] <Fyodorovna> ChrisH_, cool some will call that a dual boot.
[18:07] <ChrisH_> yothsoggoth: where do I edit the settings?
[18:07] <ChrisH_> yothsoggoth: I haven;'t used ubuntu in a while, I am not used to grub 2
[18:07] <stefg> ozpy: what the command did is overwriting /dev/sdb (the SD-card) with zeroes. if your system crashes when doing so it might be a hardware issue. Here's the command again: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4k  be sure to run it on the correct device... it nukes everything there
[18:08] <kapz> anyone using evolution and minimize it to tray...
[18:08] <Fyodorovna> ChrisH_, be careful seting it to 0 you may not be able to get to the recovery kernel if neded.
[18:08] <bs0d> What is the name of default Ubuntu desktop manager? That is set up after installation
[18:08] <Fyodorovna> bs0d, unity
[18:08] <ChrisH_> Fyodorovna: No worries. I have a live CD which can do most of the stuff I guess
[18:08] <ozpy> Stefg: Let me try again and await some minutes.
[18:08] <fg> Hi
[18:09] <Fyodorovna> ChrisH_, exactly, might need a chroot though.
[18:09] <yothsoggoth> ChrisH_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 That should help you find what you're looking for. Also, be aware of what Fyodorovna said, you shouldn't really set it to 0 incase you ever need to boot the recovery kernel, but setting it to 1 is fine
[18:09] <fg> When i type "apt-get -f install" i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/969730/
[18:09] <fg> Can anyone help me?
[18:10] <liiinhares> administrcao12
[18:10] <liiinhares> administracao12
[18:10] <Khmerog> Can i put 2 OS on 1 disc to start up/boot up install, example Ubuntu 12.04 and Xubuntu 12.04.
[18:10] <liiinhares> oii
[18:10] <bs0d> Fyodorovna: do you accidently know how to configure login prompt in unity? I log in without any prompt atm, but I have added one more user and need to set up login prompt for it
[18:10] <Gallomimia> liiinhares: i'm going to suggest typing root password in this channel is a bad idea
[18:11] <Fyodorovna> Khmerog, there are a number of usb loaders that wil multiboot.
[18:11] <Gallomimia> people surf the channel with the list of ip's and try those passwords on your ip
[18:11] <Fyodorovna> *will
[18:11] <Simul> Hello, people. I am trying to install "installer for Microsoft Trutype fonts". Somwhow I accidentally disagred to the licence. Now, it won't install...
[18:12] <yothsoggoth> bs0d: I think that's an option in your user settings, to "Log in Automatically", choose the other option and you should see the login prompt
[18:12] <Khmerog> oppz
[18:12] <Khmerog> did i spam that?
[18:13] <justin__> I haven't been able to find an answer to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124087/ring-switcher-is-not-automatically-selecting-the-windows-on-key-release, can anyone help?
[18:13] <Fyodorovna> bs0d, as suggested should be in user accounts
[18:13] <yothsoggoth> justin__: Have you checked to see if there's a bug report for it? If not you should probably file one
[18:13] <bs0d> yothsoggoth: it allows to switch only one account for automatic login :( either first or second, but not both .. and it doesn't show login prompt, to choose a user :(
[18:13] <daftykins> Simul: how are you installing it? graphically or via CLI?
[18:14] <Simul> Graphically, daftykins.
[18:14] <Fyodorovna> bs0d, not sure if you have to be logged into that account to do it though, could be done from the cli I suspect but I don't know the command
[18:14] <escott> Khmerog, yes and no. the traditional way to do this is to share a home partition. an expiremental method would be to use btrfs subvolumes, the biggest problem is that they will fight over the bootloader and who controls the boot
[18:14] <justin__> yothsoggoth: Haven't checked, I can try that.  I was hoping it was a simple config file modification :)
[18:14] <yothsoggoth> bs0d: You should disable automatic login for all accounts, that way the login prompt should be shown
[18:15] <daftykins> Simul: does the graphical app give you a purge option? rather than just a remove perhaps
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> bs0d: default desktop environment is Gnome, default Window manager is Compiz, default shell is Unity
[18:16] <Nk26> how wise is it to do a dist upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[18:16] <BreoganGal> ubuntu-es
[18:16] <Simul> daftykins: just remove. I've tried remove/install, natch, but it remembers I disadreed...
[18:16] <daftykins> Nk26: fine if you backup :>
[18:16] <audr> Hello all, can someone tell me how to get a java version 0_32 as a web plugin? My javaws -version says I hava 0_32, but I have no plugin
[18:17] <Nk26> I guess i meant release upgrade butya you know what i meant haha
[18:17] <bazhang> Nk26, its version upgrade not dist upgrade, and its fine
[18:17] <daftykins> Simul: i wonder if it planted anything in your home directory. tried looking with hidden options on?
[18:17] <yothsoggoth> Nk26: It should go fine. I did that and had no problems. Like daftykins said though, backing up first is always a good idea.
[18:17] <tensorpudding> Nk26, use the upgrade tool, i recommend
[18:17] <Simul> Nk26: don't know how wise it was, but  I just upgraded o 12.04 minutes ago and it seems OK so far.
[18:17] <tensorpudding> though, it's also okay to do a clean install once in a while
[18:18] <lars_> i have a usb/bluetooth keyboard and have to change udev rules for it to work, but when i boot in safe mode it does not apply, how do i make this change to apply in safemode too please?
[18:18] <Nk26> thx all
[18:18] <audr> Can anyone tell me how to get a 0_32 java version for web plugin?
[18:19] <Simul> :: looking at that ::
[18:22] <fOCUSON> mix 2/2 low on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:22] <bazhang> fOCUSON, wrong channel
[18:22] <Simul> I see a .fontconfig dir with files like "7ef2298fde41cc6eeb7af42e48b7d293-le32d4.cache-3"
[18:23] <lgp171188> Hi, I tried to install ubuntu 12.04 on my just purchased HP g4 1201tx laptop that has a AMD graphics card. I am able to start the USB boot and I get the purple screen with accessibility icon for a few seconds and a cursor blinking in the screen after that. Then the display gets switched off. I am unable to proceed with the installation due to this
[18:23] <bazhang> lgp171188, using nomodeset?
[18:23] <daftykins> Simul: try renaming it temporarily to see if anything changes
[18:23] <bazhang> !nomodeset | lgp171188
[18:24] <daftykins> lgp171188: otherwise try the alternate install CD
[18:26] <lotus-blade> is there an easy way to update the hosts file with my dynamic address
[18:27] <daftykins> why would you need to put your internet-side IP in your hosts?
[18:27] <oscarpaats> stefg: I can't access the SD card. Gparted does not recognizes it
[18:27] <lgp171188> bazhang: Let me try that. When I booted into Windows installed on that machine, the AMD Radeon control center said something like "your computer has two gpus - one with low capabilities and another with higher capabilities that you can turn on on demand. Could that be causing some issue?
[18:27] <incog> help me find a glory hole so i can stuff more dick in my fat fucking mouth
[18:27] <lotus-blade> a game server that ia am running
[18:27] <incog> if i was a video game i would be klonky kong
[18:27] <incog> i love cock
[18:27] <lgp171188> bazhang: nomodeset works perfectly for me. the splash screen with ubuntu name was text only though
[18:27] <audr> Can anyone tell me how I can update the java version of my web plugin? It is at 0_23 and I need it at 0_32
[18:28] <simon__> Hi, I really need some help enlarging the pointer size on 12.04, I have followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/126491/how-do-i-change-the-cursor-and-its-size and created a .Xresources but it wont work. It's an upgrade for a partially sighted person and this is a real show stopper... help?
[18:28] <simon__> sorry
[18:28] <simon__> Hi, I really need some help enlarging the pointer size on 12.04, I have followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/126491/how-do-i-change-the-cursor-and-its-size and created a .Xresources but it wont work. It's an upgrade for a partially sighted person and this is a real show stopper... help?
[18:28] <zykotic10> simon__: for whatever reason, it seems compiz affects the pointer theme... good luck.
[18:28] <bazhang> simon__, please dont double post
[18:29] <simon__> I apologied, the first was a mistake
[18:29] <daftykins> lgp171188: that's quite common
[18:29] <bs0d> I have a very strange affair ... I hope you guys could help me solve it.
[18:29] <daftykins> lotus-blade: does the game server you're running require the local IP be known then? doesn't make much sense to me to need it in the hosts file
[18:30] <simon__> zykotic10: so by 'good luck' do you mean, it's not going to happen?
[18:30] <solsTiCe> hi. I am using the alternate install. How am I supposed to enter the 64 cahracter of my WPA2 key in the text filed ? I have this key in a text file on a usb key ? how can I copy and paste it ?to a relevant file ?
[18:30] <wylde> lotus-blade: what you're asking for makes little sense. Please explain your desired result.
[18:30] <bs0d> Problem is, when I log in as a user ( in desktop manager ) and run psql command, I get an error: Connection requires a valid certificate.   When I run su - admin and psql - connection ok. When I log in as this user from CLI ( no X desktop ) connection is ok
[18:30] <zykotic10> simon__: i'm not sure.  by "good luck" i mean, "good luck" ;)
[18:30] <simon__> zykotic10: ok thanks
[18:30] <bs0d> Problems arise when I log in as this user from desktop manager. Does anybody have any ideas why this could happen?
[18:31] <wylde> lotus-blade: if you want to connect to the machine you're currenty using the addresses localhost and 127.0.0.1 will acomplish that.
[18:31] <audr> Can anyone tell me why the minecraft browser screen is blank for 11.1?
[18:32] <daftykins> bs0d: it's probably needing to bind to a network socket, which the user doesn't have permissions to do - but root does
[18:32] <daftykins> oh you said it works at CLI
[18:33] <mohd> sary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/969781/
[18:34] <bs0d> daftykins: yes, it works at CLI when I hit Ctrl+F1 and login as this user and issue same command - connection to db is established. but when I try from xterm ( or whatever it is here in window manager ) I get error "Connection requires a valid certificate"
[18:36] <daftykins> bs0d: tried locating a channel for that db? i assume that's postgreSQL
[18:37] <horse01> Hi there, I can't connect to the amagetron server?
[18:37] <madpup> Hi i just run memtest and it passed, so im confused what else it can be
[18:38] <Othi`> hi, i have a htpc connected to my tv, worked for like a year, now i get 'no signal' after the ubuntu splash screen - this is my xorg log, it says no screens found...
[18:38] <bs0d> daftykins: yes, that's postgresql. and connection is established to remote database server using TCP... maybe this user has no access to socket or something like that
[18:39] <jiohdi> anyone one figure out how to make flash colors right again... I do not like blue people
[18:39] <Simul> daftykins: success. Renaming .fontconfig didn't do anything, but removing the fonts, then insgtalling from the CLI did the trick.
[18:39] <madpup> its a hardware decoder problem, use a flash replacement app  or disable hw
[18:40] <daftykins> Simul: cool :)
[18:40] <audr> Does anyone know how to fix the white screen for loading minecraft in browser? 11.1 (oneiric)
[18:40] <lgp171188> I have booted into the live session from the usb drive using nomodeset switch as suggested. Looks like my laptop has a dual GPU configuration and unity starts into 2d mode and not 3d. Any idea how to fix such an issue?
[18:41] <daftykins> jiohdi: nvidia graphics? using their driver?
[18:41] <bs0d> daftykins: so what is the difference between that I log in from CLI and I log in on xterm?
[18:41] <daftykins> bs0d: i have no idea, so you might be better off checking for a channel for the software
[18:42] <mbucko> im running ubuntu on oracle VM and id like to map my other drives to it.. any idea how? i tried adding the drives to shared folders but nothing new is showing in my /dev/..
[18:43] <jiohdi> daftykins, yes
[18:44] <yashwant> is any one help me how to find trojan wirus using ubuntu. When I was suing windows its came but how to remove it ?
[18:44] <jiohdi> daftykins, I am using repo pkg - nvidia-current
[18:44] <TheM4ch113> yashwant: virscan.org
[18:45] <daftykins> jiohdi: have you seen the gstreamer fiddle? fix 2 on here: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[18:45] <TheM4ch113> if the file is below 20mb the upload and scan using 37 anti-v packages is free
[18:45] <Fyodorovna> yashwant, avast has a linux version it uses the same libraries as the windows one.
[18:45] <audr> Does anyone know how to fix the white screen when loading minecraft from broswer. On Ubuntu 11.1
[18:45] <Fyodorovna> yashwant, bitdefender as well, you can get a lot of av on live cd's as well
[18:45] <TheM4ch113> yashwant: I would just re-install windows to a freshly formatted partition
[18:46] <TheM4ch113> currently, I just restore a backed up partition where windows is
[18:46] <jiohdi> daftykins, not yet
[18:47] <Shirakawasuna> I just upgraded to precise and want to see what packages (if any) I installed from ppas that I just removed. Is there a way to do this (find packages that now belong to no repo, or are of a higher version than in current repos)
[18:47] <Shirakawasuna> ?
[18:47] <Fyodorovna> TheM4ch113, a clean image is your best bet that is for sure.
[18:47] <TheM4ch113> exactly
[18:48] <ubuntu-studio> hey guys, can someone tell me if i can install programs on the usb on which i am running ubuntu_
[18:49] <diamonds> I have xclip but it doesn't seem to write to my clipboard
[18:49] <zykotic10> ubuntu-studio: liveusb?  sure - but they won't be there the next time you boot
[18:49] <jrib> Shirakawasuna: aptitude has a very powerful search mechanism
[18:50] <jrib> !aptitude | Shirakawasuna
[18:50] <ubuntu-studio> ok thanks
[18:50] <jrib> Shirakawasuna: I don't know if it can do what you ask, but that's where I would start
[18:51] <diamonds> uptime | xclip
[18:51] <jrib> diamonds: ERROR
[18:51] <diamonds> ^per the example.  when I ^v in another application, I see nothing has been pasted
[18:51] <diamonds> jrib: ?
[18:51] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[18:52] <readme> Can anyone recommend a media player (flac, mp3, ogg, etc)? I'm concerned primarily with the quality of the sound it produces. Hardware nonwithstanding, what can I use to get a better sound? I'm using banshee currently, which has a mixer but it seems using the mixer just makes the sound muddy.
[18:52] <diamonds> jrib: that was an example from the man page: I'm letting people know that's what I did
[18:52] <jrib> diamonds: tried specifying a clipboard?
[18:52] <spiritech> can someone help me try and understand ubuntu and the related desktops, mainly unity and gnome a bit better, i have been using ubuntu for about 3 years now and still cant get my head around it 100%, also if i want to run compiz and cairo-dock. which would be the best way to go - gnome or unity?
[18:52] <diamonds> jrib: no I hadn't
[18:52] <kostasm> ubuntu-studio, you can install any program in your liveusb, but it needs some customization previously. I did it one year ago, but I cannot remeber how...
[18:52] <jrib> diamonds: by default it probably goes to your X clipboard (tried middle clicking to paste)
[18:53] <audr> I installed the sun-hava6-plugin, but I don't see it in about:plugins. Only IcedTea plguin.
[18:53] <rachael_> Poop
[18:53] <RoBoCop555> ´Õ¤Ñºº
[18:53] <diamonds> jrib: yes, it does not
[18:53] <audr> java*
[18:53] <diamonds> that was what I expected but it didn't happen
[18:53] <kostasm> ubuntu-studio, I have a usb created using an ubuntu menu option ...
[18:53] <diamonds> is there another program that will do this?
[18:53] <spiritech> can someone help me try and understand ubuntu and the related desktops, mainly unity and gnome a bit better, i have been using ubuntu for about 3 years now and still cant get my head around it 100%, also if i want to run compiz and cairo-dock. which would be the best way to go - gnome or unity?
[18:54] <diamonds> I'm reinstalling
[18:54] <diamonds> doesn't work
[18:55] <readme> '/part
[18:55] <Shirakawasuna> aha
[18:55] <omps> hi
[18:55] <jrib> diamonds: where are you doing this from?  Is DISPLAY set?  To what?
[18:55] <spiritech> can someone help me try and understand ubuntu and the related desktops, mainly unity and gnome a bit better, i have been using ubuntu for about 3 years now and still cant get my head around it 100%, also if i want to run compiz and cairo-dock. which would be the best way to go - gnome or unity?
[18:55] <Shirakawasuna> jrib: found a pacakge called deborphan, it does the trick :D
[18:55] <diamonds> jrib: :0
[18:55] <eliotn> codesprint is starting :)
[18:56] <jrib> Shirakawasuna: how?
[18:56] <diamonds> jrib: http://hastebin.com/raw/lutusixone
[18:57] <Guest82159> I need a operating system use less memmory:)
[18:57] <spiritech> ok. no reply. maybe someone can tell me the best way to run compiz and cairo-dock - unity or gnome or both?
[18:57] <DJones> Guest82159: Perhaps look at xubuntu or lubuntu, they're aimed at machines with lower specifications
[18:57] <DJones> !xubuntu | Guest82159
[18:58] <diamonds> :(
[18:58] <DJones> !lubuntu | Guest82159
[18:58] <diamonds> I'd like to use ubuntu at work but I run into stuff like this so frequently I can't
[18:58] <spiritech> maybe someone can tell me the best way to run compiz and cairo-dock - unity or gnome or both?
[18:58] <diamonds> "xclip doesn't work" -> spend ?? hours getting xclip to work
[18:58] <audr> Does anyone know how to change the java webplugin version? I downloaded the sun-java6-plugin, but ther java website says i am still at 0_23
[18:59] <spiritech> maybe someone can tell me the best way to run compiz and cairo-dock - unity or gnome or both?
[18:59] <diamonds> I *just* upgraded to 12 and updated all packages so I'm up to date
[18:59] <spiritech> maybe someone can tell me the best way to run compiz and cairo-dock - unity or gnome or both?
[18:59] <yeats> !repeat | spiritech
[18:59] <specik> hey everyone
[19:00] <jrib> diamonds: did you see my questions?
[19:00] <Guest82159> everyone been saying LXDE has less memory usage I dont know if it is true. But am download it right know and going to install it on my notebook computer. I hope it works in a good way:)
[19:01] <spiritech> ubotu ok. just figured i could speak to someone on the fly for a change rather than waiting for the forums to answer.
[19:01] <specik> I'm having some issues with Ubuntu 12 .04 64-bit recognizing my 2 x 4GB of RAM. Memory tests fails saying "Memory totals not close enough". BIOS correctly detects proper amount of RAM.
[19:01] <diamonds> jrib: I'm doing it from "terminal"
[19:01] <diamonds> DISPLAY = :0
[19:01] <Tzubuntu> i have a string $username in a bash script and I'm trying to swap username for $username - I tried sed  's/username|$username|g' user.txt but that isn't working can someone tell me the right way plz?
[19:02] <diamonds> I'm not sure how to look up DISPLAY in man
[19:02] <spiritech> ubotu maybe there is another irc channel that could help. are there unity or gnome specific channels available?
[19:02] <diamonds> I tried apropos display, that didn't help of couse
[19:02] <diamonds> course
[19:03] <Guest82159> I was wondering doing a lot of screen cast on my youtube channel what is the best way to record using ubuntu??
[19:03] <jrib> diamonds: and when you tried « uptime | xclip -selection clipboard », were you then able to paste by right clicking and selecting paste?
[19:03] <yeats> Guest82159: checkout recordmydesktop
[19:04] <yeats> !info recordmydesktop | Guest82159
[19:04] <diamonds> jrib: ah that did it!
[19:04] <diamonds> jrib: wasn't that the default?
[19:04] <jrib> diamonds: default is primary (middle click to paste it)
[19:04] <diamonds> I don't have middleclick
[19:04] <Shirakawasuna> jrib: running 'deborphan' lists all the packages that you have installed but are not available from any repos/ppas. You can then run that through apt-get
[19:04] <diamonds> laptop
[19:05] <diamonds> anyway it doesn't work (I can middle click with both buttons together)
[19:05] <jrib> Shirakawasuna: I don't think that's a correct characterization of deborphan
[19:05] <jrib> diamonds: try shift-insert
[19:06] <doug> hello all. i'm fairly new to ubuntu and have a partitioning question. any takers?
[19:07] <raidhtcc> doug,  hit it
[19:09] <doug> when i set up ubuntu on a 1T drive. i made separate /boot, /usr etc. partitions. i was wonder if there is a way to go made to a sort of default partition config and how i might accomplish that.
[19:10] <samfisher> how can I make a user not to be shown in the login screen?
[19:10] <specik> hey, I have a ubuntu not detecting some of my memory problem on a 64-bit system... can anyone help with that?
[19:10] <doug> made s/b back
[19:10] <SunTsu> specik: Not detecting memory? Er, what? Could you please be more specific?
[19:11] <Shirakawasuna> jrib: hmm, you're right
[19:11] <samfisher> i had to create another user for each machine from a LAN, in order to access the machine by ssh to admin it. The users that use those machines will change their pass and I don't want to violate their personal space
[19:11] <poptart> whats up guys
[19:11] <Shirakawasuna> there were still a bunch of orphans though
[19:11] <specik> SunTsu: In BIOS it detects the full 8 GB. Once booted into Ubuntu, it only detects 4GB. Funny thing is, it was working just a few days ago
[19:12] <kostasm> I am trying to use nanny (parental control) in my 12.04 but it crashes every 10 min (!). Any idea?
[19:12] <specik> SunTsu: Additionally, system tests fail on memory with the error "46.00 Memory totals not close enough"
[19:13] <SunTsu> specik: in a 64bit system it should show all the memory there is - minus "special" memory, under 1MB, Video Mapping, Kernel memory and such
[19:13] <B|tchX> ummm keep your kids off your baby kostasm ? lol nah...I welcome children to learn linux :-)
[19:13] <SunTsu> specik: Tried running memtest86?
[19:14] <specik> SunTsu: I did, and that only detected 4GB as well
[19:14] <dlentz> kostasm, if you start from terminal, do you get an error message?
[19:14] <escott> specik, is it properly seated in the slot
[19:14] <gunny17> hello all!  I have installed ubuntu 11.04 and some of the videos on you tube will not play on firefox.  Can anyone tell me what I have to download to have all the videos play?
[19:14] <SunTsu> specik: then something is amiss with your hardware
[19:14] <specik> Yeah, I even unseated both sticks and reseated them again
[19:15] <specik> I was afraid of that. I just don't get why it was working and now all of a sudden it's not. The only thing I changed between then and now is I installed a new power supply
[19:15] <OerHeks> !restricted | gunny17
[19:15] <jonasPlatte> gunny17: You probably have to install the Flash Plugin through the Software Center
[19:15] <dlentz> specik, no kernel updates recently?
[19:16] <kostasm> dlentz: what do you mean start from terminal? I used the gui to make the customization...
[19:16] <poptart> whats up
[19:16] <gunny17> I have tries that before but will try again...
[19:16] <dlentz> kostasm, type 'nanny' in terminal
[19:16] <gunny17> thanks
[19:16] <specik> dlentz: Yeah, there was a bunch of updates I installed recently, some of them kernel related. This is a pretty fresh system, just built it about a week ago
[19:16] <SunTsu> dlentz: not even memtest86 detects all the ram
[19:16] <manzoor> @gunny17: install flash
[19:16] <dlentz> SunTsu, oh, i missed that
[19:17] <specik> But my BIOS detects the RAM
[19:17] <kostasm> dlentz: command not found!
[19:17] <gunny17> thanks to manzoor.
[19:17] <SunTsu> specik: I don't think this is an ubuntu issue, but I'd start playing around with the memory settings in bios
[19:17] <dlentz> kostasm, ok, then i obviouosly don;t know about nanny. iwas just trying to see if it was this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nanny/+bug/958613
[19:18] <specik> SunTso, okay.. thanks for your help
[19:18] <dlentz> oh, it's "nanny-systray", not "nanny"
[19:18] <doug> when i set up ubuntu on a 1T drive. i made separate /boot, /usr etc. partitions. i was wonder if there is a way to go back to a sort of default partition config and how i might accomplish that.
[19:19] <jacobrask> Hi, I set my account to passwordless login in the user manager, but after that I can't use sudo
[19:19] <SunTsu> doug: Of course you can, although it's a lot of work and not for the faint at heart. I'd backup config and data and repartition + reinstall in your case
[19:19] <zykotic10> jacobrask: did you change any groups for your user?  OR did you change your system's hostname?
[19:20] <jacobrask> no. if I enable a password again I can sudo
[19:20] <kostasm> dlentz: hmm: nanny-admin-console    nanny-desktop-blocker  nanny-systray
[19:20] <dlentz> kostasm, ?
[19:21] <doug> i was afraid of that SunTsu. i guess it's time to do some more reading about how to back that data up. thanks
[19:21] <kostasm> dlentz: I am just printing out all nanny commands I found ...
[19:21] <dlentz> and what happens whyen you run nanny-systray?
[19:21] <kostasm> dlentz: nanny-systray
[19:21] <kostasm> Reconnecting to new nanny server instance
[19:22] <dlentz> well, when it crashes, you should get an error message
[19:22] <SunTsu> doug: well, after backuping your stuff you could try it anyway, you don't have anything to lose at that point but much to learn ;)
[19:22] <dlentz> it'll give you something more specific to google
[19:22] <jacobrask> zykotic10: what I want is to be able to login without a password but still be able to use sudo
[19:23] <Stewy> Hi all. I just installed 12.04 via Live CD (verified burn) and the install claims to be successful. On initial reboot, after I log in, the screen goes black for a few seconds and then only the background image appears with a garbled msg about "compiz". Any suggestions?
[19:23] <kostasm> dlentz, is this nanny-systray some monitoring of nanny?
[19:23] <zykotic10> jacobrask: ya.  well good luck with that.
[19:25] <doug> thanks.... lol if the learning curve was any steeper on this issue, i'd need a rocket. thanks.
[19:26] <jacobrask> something else is pretty weird now, gnome-terminal doesn't show up in alt-tab switcher..
[19:26] <ubuntu_> hello why there are so many upto sd99 entries in /dev directory while i have a singlw hdd connect??
[19:27] <manzoor> Hi guys i am totally new to linux can any one explain why linux is more secured than windows?
[19:28] <brightsparks> Hi. I'm trying to play a commercial DVD but the system is refusing to play it. It does play other dvd's though but for some reason it's refusing to play this one. Need help. Thanks.
[19:28] <kostasm> B|tchX, I do welcome children in linux! But they are only 8 to 10 years old, and they only using chat and email!
[19:28] <escott> !dvd | brightsparks
[19:29] <brightsparks> ubottu:: hi ok thanks. I'm heading off there now. THanks again.
[19:30] <escott> brightsparks, if you have already properly installed decss then its probably just region locked
[19:30] <brightsparks> escott: no. I borrowed it from my local lilbrary!
[19:30] <scottamunga> Hi everyone.  I'm having an issue with Ubuntu 12.04 that I've been unable to figure out or find much information on.
[19:31] <ubuntu_> i need help with this error kernel panic -not syncing out of memory no killable process any clue??
[19:31] <ubuntu_> i need help with this error kernel panic -not syncing out of memory no killable process. any clue??
[19:31] <zykotic10> scottamunga: details might help...
[19:31] <escott> ubuntu_, you are OOM and have no killable processes. when are you seeing this
[19:31] <brightsparks> escott: anyway I'll try what the  ubottu suggested first.
[19:31] <manzoor> @ubottu :i am totally new to linux can you explain why linux is more secured than windows?
[19:31] <scottamunga> zykotic10 I'm typing them
[19:31] <ubuntu_> escott: at bootup time
[19:32] <escott> ubuntu_, what can you tell us about your system
[19:32] <brightsparks> escott: what is the decss?
[19:33] <ubuntu_> escott: it's an acer aspire 5738 running 12.04 64 bit
[19:33] <escott> brightsparks, the routine to decrypt the css on dvd's. its what you are instructed to install in the !dvd factoid
[19:33] <kasii> manzoor,  gud question
[19:33] <scottamunga> I have a Compaq Presario CQ60-615DX with Intel GMA 4500M integrated graphics card.  I have graphical glitches when I boot  into Unity 3D.  It's only cosmetic AFAIK, but I was wondering what I could do to correct.  This is a new problem since upgrading from 11.10.
[19:33] <kasii> ubottu, tell us
[19:33] <brightsparks> escott: ok em so how do I know if I have it installed or not?
[19:33] <escott> ubuntu_, aspire 5738 doesnt mean much to me. processor type? amount of ram?
[19:34] <escott> brightsparks, did you follow the instructions in !dvd to run the install-css.sh script?
[19:34] <Seinar> Hi to all!
[19:34] <jonasPlatte> manzoor: because people who code malware don't code it much for linux, because it isn't used as much as windows. furthermore, you have lesser rights as administrator under linux. that causes more password prompts, but also better security.
[19:34] <ubuntu_> escott: intel core2duo , 3G ram
[19:34] <scottamunga> I read that the driver for my GPU is open sourced by Intel, and when I went into Add'l Drivers, it said no proprietary drivers in use on my system.
[19:34] <kasii> ubottu,  refer manzoor  question
[19:34] <kasii> ubottu, foolish post
[19:35] <brightsparks> escott: I don't what you're referrring to - I'm just reading now the ubuntu dot com page about restricted formats...
[19:35] <wifioregon> hi I upgraded to 12.04 and cant figure out how to switch to gnome. I'm not liking unity at all. Any help is great appreciated
[19:35] <ubuntu_> escott: i think there is some problem with my HDD. without HDD i can boot in live session
[19:35] <zykotic10> !notunity | wifioregon
[19:35] <scottamunga> wifioregon, have you looked into MATE?
[19:35] <escott> ubuntu_, i would guess that maybe its an acpi issue of some kind. that perhaps the acpi tables are reserving too much ram for the video card or something else. you could try booting with an acpi kernel argument. i have no idea why that would happen only on an installed system
[19:36] <wifioregon> zykotic10:  Thanks so I need to do "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-panel"
[19:36] <wifioregon> ?
[19:36] <wifioregon> scottamunga:  no whats MATE?
[19:36] <zykotic10> wifioregon: do you want gnome3 or a gnome2-like environment?
[19:36] <wifioregon> zykotic10: doesnt matter
[19:36] <manzoor> @jonasplatte: thanks
[19:36] <scottamunga> wifioregon, it's a fork of Gnome 2, since Gnome 2 is no longer officially supported
[19:36] <zykotic10> wifioregon: gnome3 = gnome-shell, while a gnome2-like is gnome-panel
[19:36] <Sidewinder> manzoor, If not already suggested, you might wish to see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[19:37] <virhilo> hi
[19:37] <ubuntu_> escott: some suggested me to try sata to usb converter .and i am seeing upto sdb99 entries in my /dev directory then a pointer freeze
[19:37] <qwd> Ubuntu 12.03 with Unity. For some reason VLC isn't showing up in the bar to the left anymore. I unlocked it from the launcher and now it only shows up in the upper right corner by the time. Any idea why and how I can get it to show up there when I open stuff?
[19:37] <qwd> I can't get it to appear when doing alt+tab either
[19:37] <virhilo> i have weird issue, when updated ubuntu from 11.04 to 12.04 when logging on ssh and using screen unicode doesn't work on the screen, what can be wrong?
[19:37] <jonasPlatte> manzoor: but the biggest security threat is the user who just enters his password everytime and everywhere some program or website asks him to do so even if he has no idea what he has to do it for
[19:37] <wifioregon> zykotic10:  I just want gnome the easiest way possible..and the best one
[19:38] <wifioregon> zykotic10:  Do I just run "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-panel" ?
[19:38] <zykotic10> wifioregon: someone else can help you...
[19:38] <escott> ubuntu_, ok didn't realize you were the same person. then YES absolutely thats your problem. there kernel is probing the hardware and is seeing lots of devices, so it just keeps creating them and fills up the ram. Now is it sda1 sda2,... up to sda99 which could indicate a bad partition table, or sda1, sdb1, sdc1 etc
[19:38] <gunny17> tried adobe-flash plugin still doesnt work!!
[19:38] <manzoor> @jonasplatte: can u tell which linux flavor is good?
[19:39] <scottamunga> I have to say I love Ubuntu 12.04.  I'm OCD about things not working as they should, and for a long time the touchpad on/off switch did nothing.  It works now.
[19:39] <ubuntu_> escott: how can i fix that ??
[19:39] <wifioregon> nobody knows how to install gnome on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:39] <escott> ubuntu_, well which is it? sd99 is not a device in linux
[19:39] <escott> wifioregon, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[19:39] <ubuntu_> sdb
[19:39] <wifioregon> escott, k thanks
[19:39] <ubuntu_> escott: sdb
[19:40] <manzoor> @sidewinder: Thanks
[19:40] <escott> ubuntu_, so you have 99 sdb entries? where are you seeing this? in the livecd?
[19:40] <Sidewinder> manzoor, My pleasure. :)
[19:40] <gunny17> I have installed adobe flas plugin and 11.04 firefox will still not play the video ?
[19:40] <ubuntu_> escott: /dev directory
[19:40] <brightsparks> ok thanks for your help guys am going to reboot and try playing the dvd again. Laters.
[19:40] <Sidewinder> wifioregon, Or: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[19:41] <escott> ubuntu_, i know its in the dev directory. under what conditions do you see these entries? how are you booting to see these entries?
[19:41] <scottamunga> I'm really trying to find an answer to the graphic glitching issue online, but I haven't had any luck.
[19:42] <scottamunga> For the mean time, I know I could go into Unity 2d, but I'd like to help get this fixed for other users too.
[19:43] <ubuntu_> escott: after connecting my HDD through sata to usb converter i did a ls | grep sdb in /dev directory .after few second my system stopped responding
[19:43] <magic_al> hi everyone. i just installed chrome browser. i am used to type into the terminal "firefox" to open it. but thats doesnt work with chrome. whats wrong? (i am new in ubuntu)
[19:44] <violinappren> magic_al:  google-chrome
[19:44] <llutz> magic_al: "google-chrome"
[19:44] <escott> ubuntu_, in that case the partition table on that device is fouled up in some way that is causing it to have an unlimited number of partition tables. you would need to repartition the disk, and you would need some way to supress udev and prevent it from creating all the device nodes
[19:45] <ubuntu_> escott: how can i do this
[19:45] <magic_al> violinappren: that dosnt work as well :(
[19:45] <ubuntu_> escott: ??
[19:45] <violinappren> magic_al: try: chromium
[19:45] <escott> ubuntu_, i have absolutely no idea how to do that
[19:45] <magic_al> violinappren: no...
[19:45] <violinappren> magic_al: how did you install it?
[19:45] <kasii> how can i get MAC address of my computer
[19:45] <llutz> kasii: ifconfig
[19:45] <violinappren> kasii: ifconfig -a
[19:46] <kasii> how can i get MAC address of my computer
[19:46] <magic_al> violinappren: within the ubuntu-softwarecenter
[19:46] <ubuntu_> escott: is it possible ??
[19:46] <escott> ubuntu_, im sure its possible. just no idea how its done
[19:46] <farrukhjon> hi everyone!
[19:46] <manzoor> @sidewinder: i installed ubuntu on vmware and assigned static ip to the machine   i cannt able to access internet but i can access the internet when ip assigned by dhcp. what is the issue?
[19:46] <scottamunga> hi farrukhjon
[19:47] <violinappren> magic_al: chromium-browser
[19:47] <ubuntu_> is there any one who can help me stopping udev from creating device nodes
[19:47] <ubuntu_> ??
[19:47] <Anorexic> How do I override the "small normal large larger" in Universal Access ? "Larger" isn't big enough. I used to be able to set the font as large as I wanted.
[19:47] <kasii> violinappren, could that one be changed
[19:47] <Anorexic> My eyes are bad
[19:47] <farrukhjon> how change hint text in dash launcher ?
[19:47] <ubuntu_> escott: thanks
[19:47] <escott> ubuntu_, if it takes a few minutes you could practice nuking the partition with parted and see if you can hotplug, nuke the partition table, and sync the disk before it OOMs on you. you would lose all the data on the disk
[19:48] <magic_al> violinappren: alright, that works, thank you. but is there a way to create a terminal-shortcut that i just have to type in "chrome"?
[19:48] <Sidewinder> manzoor, I know nothing about vmware; never used it, sorry. :(
[19:48] <violinappren> kasii: are you using network manager?
[19:49] <Anorexic> Fedora has the same issue. Debian squeeze still lets me select a large enough font fom y eyes
[19:49] <manzoor> @sidewinder: no prob :)
[19:49] <ubuntu_> escott: it not giving me more than 30 sec
[19:49] <gunny17> I have installed adobe flash plugin and 11.04 firefox will still not play the video ?
[19:49] <farrukhjon> for example i need correct tips "Firefox Web Browser" to "Default Browser" ?
[19:49] <gunny17> I have installed adobe flash plugin and 11.04 firefox will still not play the video ?
[19:50] <manzoor> guys any one : i installed ubuntu on vmware and assigned static ip to the machine   i cannt able to access internet but i can access the internet when ip assigned by dhcp. what is the issue?
[19:50] <mrdeb> hello
[19:50] <meganerd> kasii: ip addr
[19:50] <mrdeb> any problems with the new ubuntu that you know
[19:50] <meganerd> kasii: from the command line
[19:50] <kasii> violinappren, yes i hev
[19:50] <richtroye> manzoor There's a special file vmware uses to assign addresses, hold on and I'll look up its name
[19:51] <kasii> violinappren,  i know the network manager
[19:51] <silare_> How do I make it so every reference to Droid Sans Mono references Ubuntu Mono instead?
[19:51] <kasii> meganerd, tell me how  from the command line
[19:51] <violinappren> kasii: click its icon, then edit connection, then edit the conenction you want, then add your desired MAC address in  "Cloned MAC Address"
[19:51] <silare_> Or alternatively, is there a way I can make Tomboy use Ubuntu Mono instead of Droid Sans?
[19:51] <meganerd> manzoor: you probably need to set the interface to bridged mode instead of NAT
[19:51] <meganerd> kasii: type "ip addr"
[19:52] <richtroye> /etc/vmware/vmnet8/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf  -- check that file out, manzoor
[19:52] <gunny17> I am having problems on firefox with playing videos on you tube.  I have installed adobe flash plugin and 11.04 firefox will still not play the video ?
[19:52] <meganerd> kasii: the stuff that follows link/ether is the MAC address
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[19:52] <xangua> gunny17: did you restart firefox¿
[19:52] <kasii> meganerd,
[19:52] <gunny17> yes
[19:53] <gunny17> xangua  and reloaded the page.  It will play an occasional video but not most.
[19:53] <tarek_> slt
[19:54] <tarek_> a ts
[19:54] <richtroye> manzoor PM me if you want and I'll paste a typical entry I made to mine for ocelot.  After you've changed it, you could restart vmware and your entry should take effect
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[19:55] <RedCap_work> hello
[19:55] <RedCap_work> My home folder is encrypted by ecryptfs, and I can't remember why and how I did that. Now I want to migrate from Karmic to Precise(I don't want upgrade, just install new system). How can I access to ecryptfs folder? I mean, how to export key or something
[19:56] <xangua> gunny17: you can always use html5 player on youtube at least, flash sucks most of the time
[19:56] <scottamunga> I have a Compaq Presario CQ60-615DX with Intel GMA 4500M integrated graphics card.  I have graphical glitches when I boot  into Unity 3D.  It's only cosmetic AFAIK, but I was wondering what I could do to correct.  This is a new problem since upgrading from 11.10.
[19:56] <gunny17> is it in teh package manager?
[19:56] <jvx> How to make /etc/network/interfaces remain persistent after reboot of a USB Flash install? I have a nic that needs static settings. Ubuntu 12.04 installed to USB flash drive with startup disk creator.
[19:56] <Anorexic> I get more response from poking a dead deer than this room. I wish you all pain and suffering.
[19:57] <xangua> https://www.youtube.com/html5 gunny17
[19:58] <gunny17> thanks xangua!
[19:58] <mrdeb> scottamunga: what is the problem
[19:58] <ubuntu_> how can i stop udev from creating node in /dev directory for my usb devices??
[19:59] <mrdeb> scottamunga: you can increase ram size for video card in bios, or turn off vsync in compizsettings manager
[19:59] <mrdeb> ok
[19:59] <scottamunga> mrdeb, after logging into Unity3d from LightDM, I get graphical glitches.  Cosmetic only, AFAIK, but annoying.  It has only happened since upgrading to 12.04
[19:59] <mrdeb> what glitches
[20:00] <scottamunga> Boxes flash on and off the screen rapidly.
[20:00] <RedCap_work> anyone?
[20:00] <scottamunga> No artifacts left on screen, and the session works normally with no further problems.
[20:01] <scottamunga> apt-get install ccsm?
[20:01] <jonasPlatte> RedCap_work: how do you want to access the folder?
[20:02] <audr> anyone run Minecraft on ubuntu in here?
[20:02] <jonasPlatte> audr: Yes of course
[20:02] <RedCap_work> I hope to mount it same way
[20:02] <ubuntu_> how can i stop udev from creating node in /dev directory for my usb devices??
[20:02] <audr> jonasPlatte, I can click 'join server', but then it crashes on me. Here is error log and such: http://codepad.org/na4CiBoS
[20:03] <r0b-> anyone use this card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704059
[20:03] <jonasPlatte> RedCap_work: so, why can't you do it as before? did you already remove your old installation?
[20:03] <fg> Hi
[20:03] <audr> jonasPlatte, Not realyl sure what is wrong
[20:03] <scottamunga> mrdeb, I do have modified compiz settings with ubuntu-tweak.  Could they be causing this?
[20:03] <xangua> !anyone | r0b-
[20:04] <mrdeb> scottamunga: yes they can. mostly if you turn off vsync, it makes things faster. u can try resetting unity and see if it helps
[20:04] <ubuntu_> how can i stop udev from creating node in /dev directory for my usb devices??
[20:05] <jcrza> Hi guys. I've looked around and can't seem to find a solution. I'm on precise, trying to install windows to a separate HD so I can play Diablo 3. Said separate HD is formatted and empty, but when I try to run the windows installer it just says it can't install to that drive.
[20:05] <scottamunga> mrdeb - thank you for your help and patience. :)
[20:05] <jcrza> Anyone have any clue what I need to do?
[20:05] <audr> jonasPlatte, Any ideas?
[20:05] <RedCap_work> jonasPlatte: no, I didn't remove old installation. I haven't started to install Precise yet. But how I supposed to access to encrypted folder from new installation without a key?
[20:05] <scottamunga> I'll try what you said.
[20:05] <audr> jcrza, can't install the drive? Just plop in the Windows CD
[20:06] <jcrza> What I mean is, it sees the empty HD, but if I try to partition it it just says no.
[20:06] <jcrza> Now I wish I had written down the error, this was last night
[20:06] <jcrza> I really hate to have to install windows, but I want to play d3 something fierce.
[20:06] <mrdeb> good luck scottamunga
[20:06] <jcrza> hate*
[20:06] <mrdeb> waht is d3
[20:06] <audr> Diablo 3
[20:07] <jcrza> Couldn't get it to work with wine, even though they swear it does
[20:07] <jcrza> You need to patch it and compile it yourself or something, which I did, still didn't work.
[20:07] <mrdeb> yes
[20:07] <compdoc> jcrza, how was it formatted? what fs in on there?
[20:07] <jcrza> I formatted it NTFS first, then I just deleted all the partitions off of it the second time
[20:07] <jcrza> Both times it did the same thing, just wouldn't let me partition from the windows side of things
[20:07] <jonasPlatte> RedCap_work: Why don't you just move your data you want to keep to /home/backup or so, then delete everything but /home/backup from 12.04 live mode and install 12.04 without formatting the /home partition or if you don't have one, the root partition?
[20:08] <jcrza> Could it be because ubuntu already has a System partition or something? I don't really know anything fancy about partitions or booting, just enough to repair MBRs and crap like that
[20:08] <audr> Does anyone know why my minecraft keeps crashing? http://codepad.org/na4CiBoS  using ubuntu 11.1
[20:08] <jcrza> But it's on separate drives.. didn't think any of that would matter.
[20:08] <jonasPlatte> audr: Did you already try to use Minecraft with OpenJDK?
[20:08] <heikoheikoheiko> I want to run shell scripts with gnome-do, I added the dir with the scripts to files & folders. the default action for scripts however is open (editor). how do I change that to run? I guess I have to change default program for scripts globally. how do I do that? there is no sh (and no ruby, no python, ...) in Open With -> Other Applications.
[20:09] <audr> jonasPlatte, no, but the MC site says use Sun
[20:09] <jcrza> Yeah I had issues with openjdk on precise + minecraft
[20:09] <jcrza> sun did it
[20:10] <audr> jcrza, yah, MC loads up just fine, but when i click 'join server', boom crash
[20:10] <jcrza> Perhaps that's when it's trying to initialize a 3d environment, so maybe that's a sign
[20:10] <jcrza> Got the latest proprietary drivers and whatnot?
[20:10] <exiff_reborn> Hello, i have a partitioning problem... I was moving a partition in gparted and it got stuck just after it finished copying the partition but didnt move it, is there a way for me to recover it?
[20:10] <audr> jcrza, how can i check that?
[20:11] <exiff_reborn> Or is
[20:11] <jcrza> On the top right of the screen (if you haven't installed them yet) I think there should be a little green chip icon that you can click to install them
[20:11] <jcrza> It's also in the software center somewhere
[20:11] <exiff_reborn> *or is my data long gone?
[20:11] <jcrza> they're called restricted drivers or proprietary drivers, forget which
[20:11] <jcrza> That'll be like.. the nvidia drivers that they make themselves etc
[20:11] <smw_> jcrza, "additional drivers"
[20:12] <jcrza> There ya go
[20:12] <smw_> jcrza, it used to be called restricted
[20:12] <jcrza> good thing someone knows what they're talking about
[20:13] <jonasPlatte> audr: I always used OpenJDK and it worked
[20:13] <jcrza> Hmm.. maybe I'll have to mosy on over to the wine channel and get them to hold my hand through getting D3 working
[20:13] <jcrza> Dying to try it out
[20:13] <audr> Doing env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar makes it work, but now it flashes black every second or so
[20:14] <OerHeks> audr on this page you find info about java 6 + 7 > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[20:15] <audr> jcrza, yah one of the drivers has the green light, the other doesn't. That's because ti refuses to isntall
[20:15] <audr> OerHeks, thanks.. ?
[20:15] <jcrza> Huh, odd
[20:15] <ruth> Hello
[20:16] <ruth> I'm missing my wireless interface from the Network Manger.
[20:16] <neure> hi, i've got 11.04, can i get gcc 4.6 or newer?
[20:16] <neure> with not too much trouble?
[20:16] <mbucko> what is keyring and how do i disable it?
[20:16] <audr> jcrza, any ideas?
[20:17] <dontknow1> hi all
[20:17] <dontknow1> i need help about wireless
[20:17] <ruth> If I run lspci it shows up in terminal
[20:17] <dontknow1> wireless is hard blocked
[20:17] <paul_> any cali ladies?
[20:18] <dontknow1> i did rfkill unblock all but doesn't work
[20:18] <mongo> mbucko: keyring is secure passphrase storage, you probably do not want to disable it
[20:18] <dontknow1> here is "rfkill list all" phy1: Wireless LAN
[20:18] <pfifo> I am running 10.04, and have encrypted root and home, my home is encrypted with a keyfile, I just ran `gpg -c filename` on that file to create an encrypted version for storage on a flash drive, that uses a passphrase for an encryption key. Now I intend to upgrade to 12.04, will I be able to decrypt this file from my new operating system?
[20:18] <dontknow1> 	Soft blocked: no
[20:18] <dontknow1> 	Hard blocked: yes
[20:18] <n00shie> exit
[20:19] <dontknow1> is there anyone to help me?
[20:19] <mbucko> mongo, but im not using it.. am I?
[20:20] <mongo> mbucko: do you use a browser?
[20:20] <fg> I get this error wwhen i typee 'apt-get -f install": http://paste.ubuntu.com/970016/
[20:20] <fg> Can anyone help me?
[20:20] <dontknow1> how can i unblock hardblocked wireless?
[20:21] <jonasPlatte> dontknow1: Could it be that Hard blocked means that it's disabled by a switch or button on your laptop (if you're using one)?
[20:21] <mongo> mbucko: all those "save the password" entries you use are in there etc...
[20:21] <grkblood> whats the proper way to start diagnosing screen tearing issues?
[20:21] <pfifo> fg run 'sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-10` and then try again after its done
[20:22] <KuifjePDX> hello
[20:22] <dontknow1> jonasPlatte: i activate wireless by pushing laptop button, but it doesn't connect
[20:22] <heikoheikoheiko> nobody knows how to change default action for shell scripts from open to run?
[20:22] <mbucko> mongo, so does it always pop up at the start?
[20:22] <dontknow1> jonasPlatte: if i reboot computer, it connects!
[20:22] <KuifjePDX> I have a question about Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[20:22] <mongo> mbucko: is it asking you for a password?
[20:22] <zykotic10> grkblood: what video card are you using?  tearing in games or videos (if video - online, or local files)?
[20:22] <KuifjePDX> During installation I was asked to provide a username and password
[20:23] <KuifjePDX> but that gives me a standard user
[20:23] <jonasPlatte> dontknow1: So you can scan for wireless networks now?
[20:23] <KuifjePDX> what is the password for the administrator?
[20:23] <zykotic10> !sudo | KuifjePDX
[20:24] <KuifjePDX> at boot up I see only the prompt "login"
[20:24] <mbucko> mongo, yh but i always press cancel..
[20:24] <sda> question: let's assume i have 3hd SATA of 3 different brand, how i reconize who is SDA SDB SDC from terminal?
[20:24] <OerHeks> KuifjePDX, your 'standard user' or standard first user is the administrator with root priv.
[20:24] <fg> pfifo: Thanks. error again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970044/
[20:24] <KuifjePDX> oh, I see
[20:24] <KuifjePDX> thanks!
[20:24] <mongo> mbucko: did you just upgrade or copy your home directory to a new machine?
[20:24] <ruth> that didn't work...
[20:25] <grkblood> zykotic10, all of the above. im using a radeon 6400M
[20:25] <zykotic10> sda: "sudo blkid" and/or "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:25] <alankila> sda: cat /proc/scsi/scsi may help
[20:25] <zykotic10> grkblood: amd/ati = i can't help.  good luck.
[20:25] <shahutha> Hi..ada orang indo ga..
[20:25] <g0v3rn0r> Hi ppl
[20:25] <ruth> sudo rfkill  unblock all...didn't work.
[20:25] <dontknow1> jonasPlatte: lets say i opened laptop without activation of wireless. "rfkill list" says "hardblocked: yes". if i reboot laptop while wireless led enabled in my laptop, it connect automatically and "rfkill list" says "hardbloked.: no"
[20:26] <alankila> sda: hmm scratch that, there's no device node info there. Look through the boot messages from /var/log/dmesg then
[20:26] <mbucko> mongo, what do u mean?
[20:26] <mbucko> mongo,  i didnt upgrade og copy anything
[20:26] <shahutha> Hi..where the software manager in bt5 like in lisa..??
[20:27] <shahutha> i wanna add software
[20:27] <audr> Does anyone know why my minecraft window flashes black every so seconds? I have to use env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar to make it run
[20:27] <OerHeks> !backtrack | shahutha
[20:27] <chunk_> hi
[20:27] <heikoheikoheiko> where is stored what applications are shown in "Open With -> Other Applications"?
[20:27] <pfifo> fg, try 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core` then :)
[20:28] <pfifo> what is the default kernel for 12.04?
[20:28] <chunk_> can someone help me with juju issue?
[20:28] <violinappren> pfifo: 3.2
[20:28] <mongo> mbucko: is this a fresh install?
[20:29] <pfifo> violinappren, is 2.6 still available as well?
[20:29] <mongo> mbucko: the keyring will ask you for a password once, it will use that password to encrypt your passwords you use in browsers etc..., this way you don't have plain text passwords sitting on the filesystem
[20:29] <mongo> mbucko: the keyring is a good thing
[20:30] <violinappren> pfifo: not in the main repository
[20:30] <mbucko> i see
[20:30] <pfifo> violinappren, ok thanks
[20:30] <chunk_> can someone help me with juju issue?
[20:30] <mbucko> mongo, so how do i set up the initial password for keyring?
[20:31] <violinappren> !details | chunk_
[20:31] <audr> chunk_, I would if I knew what juju is. It sounds like a fruit from Seinfield
[20:31] <fg> pfifo: New error! : http://paste.ubuntu.com/970058/
[20:31] <pfifo> fg, You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[20:31] <mongo> mbucko: if it is a new install that is why it is asking you for your password
[20:31] <mongo> it will verifiy it is the correct password for the account and use it as the key
[20:31] <OerHeks> heikoheikoheiko, open with is stored in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list  AFAIK
[20:32] <heikoheikoheiko> OerHeks thanks
[20:32] <shahutha> guys please..how to make user as sudo (can instal)..??
[20:33] <fg> pfifo:This is my first question. I get this error wwhen i typee 'apt-get -f install": http://paste.ubuntu.com/970016/
[20:33] <violinappren> shahutha: /join #backtrack-linux
[20:33] <ruth> I'm not sure what to do.
[20:33] <yuri__> My printer just disappeared from the Windows client and I can't get my smb workgroup to list properly. No matter what it says the linux machine is in the WORKGROUP workgroup. Changed the name, restarted smbd, restarted the server and it still is in the wrong workgroup.
[20:34] <shahutha> violinappren, thanks
[20:34] <neure> what text editor comes in ubuntu 11.04?
[20:34] <audr> gedit i would guess
[20:34] <pfifo> fg, ahh well then, im not sure, you can try looking at bug reports on launchpad.net search and youll most likely find a solution to circular dependencies, if not, then continue asking here.
[20:34] <yuri__> And why doesn't Ubuntu EVER keep the right time? Server is always an hour ahead of it's timezone.
[20:35] <DJones> neure: nano (command line) or gedit for gnome
[20:35] <audr> Does anyone know a fix to my minecraft screen flickering black? I have to use  env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar to make it run
[20:35] <sda> zykotic10, alankila none of your solution works well, with fdisk -l | grep "Disk /dev/sd" i can find out by size, but with same size, and maybe same brand and only different code it's impossible!
[20:35] <fg> pfifo: Thanks alot for your help :)
[20:36] <violinappren> !ntp | yuri__
[20:36] <sda> disk utility (GUI) can read the brand type and serial number.
[20:37] <tan_> hello i am having problems
[20:37] <violinappren> !details | tan_
[20:37] <Guest63538> I dont have any sound and i need java
[20:37] <chunk_> I've followed the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Juju evrythinks working fine into I deploy the mysql server it install fine but won't startup using ubuntu 12.04 server
[20:37] <Guest63538> test
[20:37] <Guest63538> hello i have no sound
[20:38] <violinappren> !sound | Guest63538
[20:38] <fg> Any idea about this error at"apt-get -f install"? http://paste.ubuntu.com/970016/
[20:38] <chunk_> I've followed the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/Juju evrythinks working fine into I deploy the mysql server it install fine but won't startup using ubuntu 12.04 server
[20:38] <audr> hey violinappren, have any idea how to fix a flickering black screen for a minecraft window?
[20:38] <violinappren> Guest66342: for java: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[20:39] <Guest63538> i am also trying to install hjava to play minecraft
[20:39] <Guest63538> how do i get java
[20:39] <violinappren> chunk_: #ubuntu-server
[20:40] <violinappren> audr: probably a graphics driver issue.. what's your card?
[20:40] <audr> Radeon HD 5600 Series, violinappren
[20:41] <audr> er, whoops
[20:41] <audr> Radeon HD 5500 Series
[20:41] <audr> ^ that one, violinappren
[20:41] <sda> zykotic10, alankila : hdparm -I /dev/sda and you know what HD we are talking about! with an easy script you can have it for each HD! thanks!
[20:41] <violinappren> audr: search for 'driver' in applications, open the additional drivers application, do you see an entry for your card?
[20:41] <LMJ> Hello the chan
[20:41] <yuri__> Alright. Deep breath. Feel better. I know this is not windows tech support, but hopefully somebody can help. I have Ubuntu Server 12 with a Canon printer plugged into it. Windows 7 workstation. Everything goes over and out the printer proper in Windows except for Printshop 22. Can somebody give me any idea why ONE program would not print over the network? It's hooked to the right printer over the network but doesn't print. It even says it
[20:41] <yuri__> is completed printing but nothing happens.
[20:42] <yuri__> Sorry for that book I just wrote, but desperate for help and trying to be explicit in hopes someone is familiar with any of this.
[20:42] <audr> violinappren, yes. There are two options two install. I have one installed (green light is on next to it), but the other refuses to install. All the other one is, is the same fglrx driver but with updates)
[20:42] <pranjal710> I have recently installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 10.10, GET Request is not working on it. Can anyone please help?
[20:42] <audr> to install
[20:42] <LMJ> I don't have a clue yuri__  :-/
[20:43] <ruth> so can anyone help?
[20:43] <violinappren> !screenshot | audr
[20:43] <audr> violinappren, kk
[20:43] <yuri__> Sigh. Neither does google. And Broderbund doesn't support Print Shop anymore.
[20:43] <Guest63538> wait is ubuntu and kubuntu the same?
[20:43] <ruth> except for the DE
[20:43] <Guest63538> i dont hear no sound still
[20:43] <Guest63538> i did aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[20:43] <ruth> you'd have KDE
[20:44] <pranjal710> I have recently installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 10.10, GET Request is not working on it. Can anyone please help?
[20:44] <yuri__> Guest, the only two main differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the K on the box and the fact that Kubuntu uses the KDE Desktop Environment. Ubuntu is straight console.
[20:44] <LMJ> How to force chromium or firefox to stay on its workspace when I click on a link on my email client from another workspace?
[20:44] <guntbert> ruth: what is your problem?
[20:44] <KM0201> pranjal710: 10.10 is EOL
[20:44] <Logan_> !eol | pranjal710
[20:44] <yuri__> Same basic linux.
[20:44] <audr> violinappren, Radeon HD 5500 Series
[20:44] <xangua> yuri__: ubuntu uses gnome and unity as shell
[20:44] <audr> shoot sorry
[20:44] <audr> http://i.imgur.com/QgUDA.png
[20:44] <ruth> my wireless interface isn
[20:45] <ruth> isn't*
[20:45] <ruth> in Network Manager
[20:45] <pranjal710> but, even if its EOL, I culdnt get it working on 10.04
[20:45] <pranjal710> moreover GET Request should work!!
[20:45] <ruth> but if I run...lspci
[20:45] <pranjal710> couldn't*
[20:46] <ruth> it shows up in the list that it prints
[20:46] <audr> violinappren, did you see the screenshot?
[20:47] <Varsuchi> can you use an apple keyboard on a pc?
[20:47] <violinappren> audr: yes, checking
[20:47] <audr> kk
[20:47] <yuri__> Forgive me, Xangua. Thank you for the update. :)
[20:47] <audr> violinappren, please note that I HAVE to use this: env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar to run MC
[20:47] <yuri__> Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, wow. And they all use something different. ;) Ubuntu Server. Then add on as you go along. ;)
[20:48] <eutheria> can i configure the virtual desktops 1x4 now?
[20:48] <mango> hi, I have a 'no entry' sign.
[20:48] <mango> I've just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04
[20:48] <mango> it seems it has gone through a partial upgrade
[20:49] <mango> but I can't continue it
[20:49] <martii> :)
[20:49] <mango> anyone here?
[20:49] <guntbert> !enter | ruth (it is hard to read your questions running over half the page)
[20:50] <Seryth> !ask | mang0
[20:50] <Seryth> !ask | mango
[20:50] <martii> anybody with precise installed on HP 4535s?
[20:50] <mango> ok
[20:50] <violinappren> audr: try deactivating the second option, then activating the first option and see if it works for you
[20:50] <xangua> !anyone | martii
[20:50] <linx2342> Hey guys, I'm having a strange problem with lirc. Running lirc manually works, but running lirc as service won't: http://paste.welcloud.de/show/Iu5ju2WML861i5w7Hx4J/
[20:51] <ruth> sorry, I hit it by mistake.
[20:51] <violinappren> audr: you need to reboot activating the first option
[20:51] <linx2342> irw will just show some output if I run lirc like in the paste
[20:51] <audr> violinappren, uninstalling the option i have now
[20:51] <violinappren> audr: after activating *
[20:51] <audr> ofc
[20:52] <audr> i dont think it will work though
[20:52] <audr> er, install*
[20:52] <mango> ok, here goes again, I have just upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 and I seem to have run into a graphics issue. I was originally getting a black screen. However I did a apt-get update and that seems to resolved most of the graphics. I now see a 'no-entry' sign in the task bar.
[20:53] <mango> It claims I have a partial upgrade.
[20:53] <mango> here is the message I received when clicking 'install updates' on the 'no-entry' sign. http://justpaste.it/yma
[20:54] <Varsuchi> !patience
[20:54] <Fyodorovna> mango, have you checked additional drivers?
[20:54] <mongo> mango: create a new user and log in as it and see if there is still the oddness
[20:54] <mango> ok I'll double check.
[20:54] <violinappren> mango: backup and do a reinstalll
[20:54] <audr> violinappren, no it did not install. Do you want to see the log it put up?
[20:54] <violinappren> audr: ok
[20:55] <audr> want me to reactive the other one?
[20:55] <ThinkT510> mango: did you have ppas before upgrading?
[20:55] <audr> the one I had before, violinappren
[20:55] <violinappren> audr: pastebin  the log first
[20:55] <audr> kk
[20:56] <mango> mongo: I can't get into the user and groups. I get this message: "The configuration could not be loaded"
[20:56] <martii> is new ubuntu compatibile with adm A4-3300M CPU?
[20:56] <OccupyDemonoid> Could someone point me in the direction of how to share my music folder in my home drive with another user but only my music folder and not my entire home drive, please?
[20:56] <audr> violinappren, the log is large. Beware: http://codepad.org/ULdHwEVS
[20:56] <mango> violinappren - no can do, I have files on here, only as a last resort
[20:56] <mango> ThinkT510, - what is ppas?
[20:56] <mongo> mango: press ctl-alt-F2 and log in to a tty and use adduser
[20:57] <ThinkT510> !ppa |  mango
[20:58] <jonasPlatte> OccupyDemonoid: Move your music to /home or /mnt or so, and replace both users music folders with links to that new music folder
[20:58] <argief> im not a ubuntu champ, but a no-entry in the task bar surely refers to some packadge that is not loading correctly?
[20:58] <audr> violinappren, it tells me: "Sorry, the installation of this driver has failed"
[20:58] <MirkoKa> OccupyDemonoid: my suggestion is to use a shared folder lile /home/shared/music and use a common group for both osers
[20:58] <violinappren> audr: http://askubuntu.com/a/97564
[20:58] <MirkoKa> s/osers/users/
[20:58] <argief> maybe something mongo installed not compatible with 12.04?
[20:58] <mango> ubottu - what do I do with ppa?
[20:58] <OccupyDemonoid> Thank you, jonasPlatte and MirkoKa. That is much simplier than using Samba.
[20:59] <jonasPlatte> OccupyDemonoid: yes that is :D
[20:59] <audr> violinappren, kk
[20:59] <mango> ThinkT510, - what do I do with ppa?
[20:59] <nuse> does anybody know if you can run ubuntu 12.04 on an older kernel?
[21:00] <nuse> i seem to be having problems
[21:00] <ThinkT510> mango: i was asking if you installed any before upgrading, if you did they can cause big dependency issues
[21:00] <mikel> buenas noches
[21:00] <neure> how do i locate gcc 4.7 deb package that i can install in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:00] <ruth> would you like me to do something, guntbert?
[21:01] <mikel> alguien me podria echar una mano para instalar los drivers de mi grafica para poder cmabiar la configuracion de LUBUNTU?
[21:01] <OccupyDemonoid> MirkoKa, may I ask how I give both users access to that folder in /home/shared/music?
[21:02] <guntbert> ruth: sorry, no - as my wireless always "just worked" I have very little experience in troubleshooting there
[21:02] <ruth> ah.
[21:03] <MirkoKa> OccupyDemonoid: choose (maybe create) a common group for them (users, or musicfans or whatever), then set read, execute (and write?) permission on the folder (in the filemanager or with the command "chmod g+rwx /home/shared/music")
[21:04] <soupeee> 12.04 LTS is too big for my netbook. Is there or is there going to be a Lubuntu variant?
[21:04] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | soupeee
[21:04] <audr> violinappren, Thank you. It works perfectally
[21:04] <MirkoKa> OccupyDemonoid: of course, before the chmod, set the group to the one you chooses like "chgrp -R /home/shared/music"
[21:04] <ThinkT510> soupeee: they were all released at the same time
[21:04] <soupeee> ubottu: thx
[21:04] <kostasm> \help
[21:05] <violinappren> audr: minecraft or the installation?
[21:05] <audr> minecraft
[21:05] <audr> wait >_>
[21:05] <gomidu> hallo
[21:05] <audr> yesm inecraft works, i didnt even mess with the isntallation
[21:05] <soupeee> ThinkT510: how come my Lubuntu OS didn't give me the option? Doesn't it know who it is?
[21:05] <benjamindaines> How do I make ubuntu restart my wireless, sound, and bluetooth on wake?
[21:05] <OccupyDemonoid> MirkoKa, Groups seemed to have moved from Users Accounts. That's why I asked.
[21:06] <violinappren> audr: well im glad it works, if you have further issues you may want to check with their forums also
[21:06] <ThinkT510> soupeee: if the update manager is set not to inform you then it won't, check the settings
[21:06] <audr> violinappren, heh thanks. Really, it shouldn't work. It doesn't look like what I did changed anything
[21:06] <arket> hi all
[21:06] <audr> violinappren, but...it works... lol
[21:06] <violinappren> audr: you DID change something, you're now using an updated version of the driver
[21:07] <audr> violinappren, :O !
[21:07] <gomidu> I have a problem while instaling ubuntu 12.04. The instaler crashes it uses the webcam
[21:07] <audr> fglrx-amdcccle-updates is already the newest version.
[21:07] <audr> fglrx-amdcccle-updates set to manually installed.
[21:07] <audr> fglrx-updates is already the newest version.
[21:07] <audr> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[21:07] <FloodBot1> audr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:07] <audr> sorry :(
[21:07] <arket> anyone can help with audio problems?
[21:08] <audr> arket, what be the problem
[21:08] <violinappren> audr: initially you weren't using the -updates version
[21:08] <arket> audio problem with skype after upgrade to 12.04
[21:08] <audr> violinappren, ah..
[21:08] <violinappren> !sound | arket
[21:08] <Zeising> this is most likely a FAQ, but right now my google fu is letting me down. How do I select wether gdm, kdm or lightdm is used?
[21:08] <audr> arket, ah skype. FBI listening in skype calls and logging everything
[21:08] <arket> ubottu: audio working on other applications, but with skype
[21:09] <fidel_> Zeising: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[21:09] <arket> audr: exactly, i want them to tell them something
[21:09] <argief> audr,  something u dont want fbi to hear?
[21:09] <Zeising> fidel_: is there a config file, because I can't go around running dpkg-reconfigure a ton of times....
[21:09] <audr> arket, For me I had to disable PulseAudio for my microphone to work. Maybe PulseAudio is related yo your problem
[21:09] <MirkoKa> OccupyDemonoid: aha, odd. but ok, then with the commandline: 1: "sudo addgroup musicfans" 2: sudo gpasswd -a user1 musicfans" 3: "sudo gpasswd -a user2 musicfans",  then relogin
[21:10] <audr> argief, not really, but i don't like how they can and do log calls.
[21:10] <fidel_> Zeising: run the cmd - a ncurses like dialog will pop up let you define which is default
[21:10] <audr> argief, and i stopped using Skype anyway lol
[21:10] <arket> audr, it works sometimes, not allways, especially when another application is using audio, it hangs
[21:10] <Zeising> fidel_: yes, but I can't do that on every single box i manage :)
[21:10] <violinappren> arket: check the audio section of skype settings
[21:10] <qwd>  /quit
[21:10] <Zeising> fidel_: so I was hoping for a config file i can push out using puppet.
[21:10] <fidel_> Zeising: k - no idea where the setting itself is stored
[21:10] <mango> looks like adding a new user seems to have done the trick
[21:10] <audr> arket, hrm hrm hrm. Yah, fiddle with the skype audio settings
[21:10] <violinappren> arket: you may want to untick making skype adjusting your mixer settings
[21:10] <OccupyDemonoid> MirkoKa, Thank you. :)
[21:11] <arket> violinappren: i did and tried different audio options, all with same result
[21:11] <argief> audr,  if they can stop violence, let them listen.  dont think they are interested in my conversations! lol
[21:11] <mango> hold on
[21:11] <Zeising> fidel_: ok. Thanks for the help anyway :)
[21:11] <arket> violinappren, its allready unticked
[21:11] <arket> audr: all combinations with same results
[21:12] <remlabm> im having a ton of issues with ubuntu 12.04, this is not the first time ive used ubuntu. Fresh install, 64bit. had a bunch of errors, screen would freeze. so i moved to 32bit. Nvidia drivers dont seem to work properly, getting random "Ubuntu Critical Errors". Is it me, or is 12 seem unstable?
[21:12] <audr> argief, lol wow. It's that way of thinking that is letting them kill privacy though.
[21:12] <violinappren> arket: pavucontrol should give you more access to what's going on the sound system
[21:12] <jacky> remlabm: you jimmy vega?
[21:12] <remlabm> im having a ton of issues with ubuntu 12.04, this is not the first time ive used ubuntu. Fresh install, 64bit. had a bunch of errors, screen would freeze. so i moved to 32bit. Nvidia drivers dont seem to work properly, getting random "Ubuntu Critical Errors". Is it me, or is 12 seem unstable?
[21:12] <fidel_> remlabm: no need to repeat
[21:12] <remlabm> sorry for double post
[21:13] <audr> argief, if they want to kill our privacy, why not let us have full access to their meetings and everything that they do.
[21:13] <violinappren> !bug | remlabm
[21:13] <fidel_> remlabm: no issues here
[21:13] <mango> remlabm,
[21:13] <mango> Im having similiar problems
[21:13] <jacky> and if not nvidia, then noveou
[21:13] <mango> nvidia here too
[21:13] <argief> audr,  where I come from, privacy is the least of my concerns...
[21:13] <audr> argief, heh. this chan isn't for this talk anyway :P
[21:14] <remlabm> is anyone running dual monitors on Nvida on 12? if so, which drivers did you use?
[21:14] <fidel_> remlabm: yep - using 295 from nv page
[21:14] <arket> violinappren: how can i use it to investigate the cause of the problem?
[21:14] <jonasPlatte> nvidia driver works for me but if i use nouveau, i freezes after some mins
[21:14] <argief> audr, agreed. ;-)
[21:15] <violinappren> arket: check if skype it outputting the audio correct, unmuted, levels are okay and so on
[21:15] <jonasPlatte> i hope i can use nouveau without that problem in 12.10, because i really want to try out wayland and i heard that won't work with the proprietary drivers because those hardware menufactuers don't support it
[21:16] <jonasPlatte> big dislike nVidia and AMD
[21:16] <remlabm> fidel_ : which driver did you grab off their site? Linux 32bit?
[21:18] <fidel_> remlabm: 64bit
[21:18] <arket> violinappren it is not shown anywhere, could it be cause my system is 64bit?
[21:18] <violinappren> arket: are you in call with someone on skype? as in, is there audio being generated?
[21:19] <violinappren> arket: or do you mean the app is not installed?
[21:19] <mango> I give up with the latest Ubuntu.
[21:19] <mango> goint to reinstall
[21:19] <ThinkT510> mango: thats the spirit
[21:20] <audr> mango, :P
[21:20] <audr> mango, 11.1
[21:20] <violinappren> mango: : *whistles*
[21:20] <zando> lubuntu 12.04 precise :-)
[21:20] <zando> good distro
[21:20] <nathaneltitane> mango: FEDORA
[21:20] <mango> 12.04 is not precise for me
[21:20] <sary> I hae installed ubuntu 12.04 into a friend machine Toshiba Satellite M-100 and i noticed his multimedia keys does not work!
[21:20] <syslq> zando: with not so good sw :)
[21:20] <audr> I see what you did there lol, mango
[21:20] <mango> audr :P
[21:21] <mango> shame really, 11.10 was a nice upgrade
[21:21] <zando> know the feeling..., some issues with ati 5670HD but hystory now :-0
[21:21] <mango> so much to install again..grr.
[21:21] <stafford> I am looking for some solution regarding tuning down the power consumption of Ubuntu 10.04.
[21:22] <audr> mango, Pro tip: If something works fine, don't mess with it
[21:22] <stafford> I only use it for Internet browsing and reading materials.
[21:22] <mango> I'm using it for Perl development
[21:22] <violinappren> stafford: powertop
[21:22] <OerHeks> stafford, upgrade to 12.04, most power issues are fixed in kernel 3.2
[21:23] <zando> lxde rules.... I hate Unity
[21:23] <mango> terminal still works
[21:23] <stafford> OerHeks, is 12.04 out?
[21:23] <ThinkT510> zando: unity isn't as bad as i thought it would be
[21:23] <compdoc> Im installing a test system with 12.04, and installing all the services I need like vnc4server, smartd, etc. then I'll clone it to several other servers.  is there anything I need to worry about duplicating, like hard drive UUIDs? or device numbers? one guy said I should generate new ssh keys, so Im doing that
[21:23] <mango> so maybe I don't need to reinstall just yet
[21:23] <ThinkT510> stafford: yes
[21:23] <stafford> Sorry, I am not keeping up with Linux releases.
[21:23] <stafford> Excellent, I will try it right away, cheers guys.
[21:24] <mango> force me to use the command line.
[21:24] <OccupyDemonoid> MirkoKa, I just realized, you never gave the command for adding the directory and managing rights to the folder /home/shared/music.
[21:24] <rhumbot> hi all, i just connected my tv to my laptop (12.04) but no monitor is being recognized ... anything i can do? :/
[21:24] <mango> hopefully there will be a fix for nvida
[21:24] <mango> what is your graphics card?
[21:25] <rhumbot> me? nvidia ... :/
[21:26] <mango> snap
[21:26] <mango> nvidia too
[21:26] <audr> can anyone tell me how to use the grep command to find "VGA"  from lspci? I thought it was grep | vga lspci
[21:26] <mango> we seems to suffering the most
[21:26] <ThinkT510> audr: lspci | grep vga
[21:26] <llutz> audr: lspci |grep -i vga
[21:26] <audr> what is the -i for
[21:26] <MirkoKa> OccupyDemonoid: thought you will do that with nauilus^^ but ok: 1: "sudo mkdir -p /home/shared/music" 2: "sudo chgrp -R /home/shared/music" 3: "sudo chmod -rwx /home/shared/music"
[21:26] <llutz> audr: man grep
[21:26] <MirkoKa> audr: ignore case
[21:27] <audr> ignore case? Yah, i will look at man page
[21:27] <MirkoKa> OccupyDemonoid: correction: 3: "sudo chmod g+rwx /home/shared/music"
[21:27] <donvito> !grep
[21:27] <donvito> !grep
[21:28] <violinappren> audr: sudo lshw -C display
[21:28] <audr> What does that do/
[21:28] <audr> ?*
[21:28] <violinappren> audr: shows graphics card and currently used driver
[21:28] <audr> :O
[21:29] <audr> thanks again violinappren .
[21:29] <OccupyDemonoid> MirkoKa, I got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970170/ :(
[21:30] <llutz> OccupyDemonoid: group missing
[21:30] <uqx> Anyone here running 12.04/Precise and having a ton of nvidia freeze/lockup problems?  Xorg[1249] general protection ip:7fd7a5ed16a9 sp:7fffe5ea8df0 error:0 in nvidia_drv.so[7fd7a5e70000+6e0000   thats about the only info I can get from dmesg    Games like nexuiz/steam freeze my entire system up (using the recommend and tried the 294.0 driver (post current)) and still get these random lockups
[21:31] <uqx> weird thing is, everything works great for about 10-15 mins, then it just locks up
[21:31] <MirkoKa> OccupyDemonoid: sorry, my mind is elsewhere ^^ use "sudo chgrp -R musicfans /home/shared/music"
[21:33] <OccupyDemonoid> Ah, thank you, MirkoKa. All of those commands worked now. :)
[21:34] <argief> i upgraded to 12.04 and now gdb is using 100% cpu. any ideas?
[21:34] <remlabm> fidel_ : trying to install the drivers from NVIDIA, gave me an error about having xserver running. So dropped into terminal, now it just fails installation. any ideas?
[21:34] <scottamunga> Hi everybody.  How do I disable vsync?
[21:35] <kayaman> hiall
[21:35] <scottamunga> hi kayaman
[21:35] <ask471> hi kayaman
[21:36] <sary> Hey
[21:36] <ask471> i need pointers...
[21:36] <kayaman> scottamunga,  yesssssssssssssss
[21:36] <EvilResistance> ask471:  with...?
[21:36] <EvilResistance> ask471:  giving details and asking a real question tends to be more helpful
[21:37] <Brustofski-Fan> Wireless stoped working when i tryed ppa kernel 3.3.4.... uninstalled that kernel went back to 3.2.0 24... tryed to activat thrue jockey...  var/log/jockey  gave me this...    2012-05-05 17:30:28,479 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[21:37] <ask471> i have to attend a clients office tomorrow...his ubuntu machine is stuck in an endless boot loop
[21:37] <ask471> EvilResistance: ^^^
[21:38] <zando> any Ideas of a good ide for Drupal?
[21:38] <kayaman> ask471, yes
[21:38] <Trian3> Hey guys...  I'm running into a prob w/ rsync.  I get the following error msgs:  rsync: mkstemp "/mnt/sdd1/.<filename.iso>" failed: Input/output error (5)
[21:38] <Trian3> and
[21:38] <Trian3> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7]
[21:38] <EvilResistance> ask471:  there's a question attached to your statement... but i don't see it :/
[21:38] <EvilResistance> !enter | Trian3
[21:38] <ask471> is it likely hardware or soft/firm
[21:38] <kayaman> ask471,heyyyyyyyyyyyy
[21:39] <EvilResistance> ask471:  you assume everything is firmware, then, i take it?
[21:39] <EvilResistance> ask471:  a firmware problem can be considered a hardware problem, its not likely the firmware's changed during an OS isntallation (technician experience)
[21:39] <EvilResistance> ask471:  likely its some software issue
[21:39] <ask471> i have encountered encountered endless boot with windoz...is it going to be the same???
[21:40] <EvilResistance> ask471:  if its a hardware issue, there'd likely not be a boot loop
[21:40] <scottamunga>  How do I disable vsync?  I've been having graphical issues upon login with Unity 3d (Intel GMA 4500M graphics card), and someone suggested earlier to disable vsync.  I searched how to do it in Ubuntu, but no luck yet.
[21:40] <EvilResistance> ask471:  windows and linux are different beasts
[21:40] <argief> I used ps aux | grep gdb, and noticed that transmission-daemon is being debugged.  If anyone was interested... ;-)
[21:40] <EvilResistance> ask471:  it could be the same, it could be different
[21:40] <EvilResistance> ask471:  just... make sure you bring a LiveCD or LiveUSB with you...
[21:40] <xangua> scottamunga: that someone told you to use compiz settings manager to disable vsync
[21:40] <EvilResistance> so you can access the files ;P
[21:40] <Trian3> Can anyone help w/ an rsync issue?
[21:40] <EvilResistance> Trian3:  patience
[21:41] <EvilResistance> also...
[21:41] <EvilResistance> !anyone | Trian3
[21:41] <EvilResistance> and
[21:41] <EvilResistance> !repeat | Trian3
[21:41] <ask471> okay... is there a way to repair the instal?
[21:41] <scottamunga> xangua, my apologies.  I forgot.
[21:41] <EvilResistance> ask471:  you come from a windows tech background dont you
[21:42] <Brustofski-Fan> How do i fix my wireless network .. var/log/jockey  gave me this...    2012-05-05 17:30:28,479 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[21:42] <ask471> EvilResistance: livecd check! and yes
[21:42] <argief> ask471,  you need to determine first if it is a bios or OS issues.
[21:42] <EvilResistance> ask471:  what argief said
[21:42] <mango> what's a good linux distro as a server?
[21:42] <ask471> argief ok, howishhhh...
[21:42] <EvilResistance> ask471:  argief:  if the boot loop is a relatively recent issue its likely not BIOS
[21:43] <ask471> it is a sudden issue...
[21:43] <EvilResistance> mango:  wrong channel to ask, try ##linux
[21:43] <EvilResistance> mango:  most of us here will say Ubuntu ;P
[21:43] <Taj-AFK> ok, call me ignorant (but I'm sure this has been sked here before) I've already grepped my resolution modes for my monitor and got one that shows it matches what the new upgrade is looking for & changed it in the grub file...but it's a no-go.  It doesn't make sense to me why I'd change it in the grub on a single boot.  Where should I change the info? on the init.d?
[21:43] <argief> ask471,  you need to determine when the reboot occurs, before or after the OS loads.
[21:43] <Taj-AFK> *asked
[21:43] <ask471> started with inconsistent boots then just completely stopped booting
[21:43] <compdoc> mango, I use ubuntu desktop on all my servers
[21:44] <mango> EvilResistance, - thought we might be open minded in here
[21:44] <ask471> reboots before any splash.....but after bios post
[21:44] <argief> ask471,  could be MBR issue
[21:44] <blocky> what is the easiest way to browse installed applications and run them?
[21:45] <argief> ask471,  my guess is maybe a the HDD is dead or almost dead
[21:45] <Trian3> @mango This is the ubunto channel.  Obviously, the response is going to be biased towards that distro
[21:45] <ask471> right.... argief, can i get a command to fix mbr pliz?
[21:45] <ask471> oh
[21:45] <kayaman> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[21:45] <ask471> so can i chkdsk ????
[21:46] <blocky> does unity have an easily accessible list of all programs?
[21:46] <Sidewinder> That was intelligent..
[21:46] <ask471> kayaman: byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[21:46] <scottamunga> blocky, push the windows key ;)
[21:46] <argief> ask471,  umm  chkdsk is for the windows channel...
[21:46] <Brustofski-Fan> blocky, i would say your menu...
[21:46] <blocky> well that shows recent apps, but I am wondering if there is a way to show all apps?
[21:46] <ask471> argief, i know...so i ask..
[21:46] <Taj-AFK> blocky apt-get remove unity
[21:46] <Brustofski-Fan> How do i fix my wireless network .. var/log/jockey  gave me this...    2012-05-05 17:30:28,479 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[21:47] <scottamunga> blocky, I did it to check, and yes that's true
[21:47] <ask471> what to do to check?
[21:47] <scottamunga> 0.o
[21:47] <xangua> blocky: you can see them all in the dash
[21:47] <argief> ask471,  determine if the HDD is faulty. boot from live cd, and you should be able t browse the drive.
[21:47] <mohd> Just want to make sure its assigned against the right package!
[21:47] <mohd> !bug #995185
[21:47] <scottamunga> blocky, oh wait, after you get to the dash, click on the icon at the bottom that looks like a ruler, pencil, and pen
[21:48] <ask471> hey, is there a guide for troubleshooting boot errors
[21:48] <Taj-AFK> We don't need to be a hackintosh wannabe, which is all that unity does for the distro
[21:48] <scottamunga> then you can see all available apps on your system
[21:48] <Taj-AFK> imo
[21:48] <xangua> Taj-AFK: please stick to the topic: ubuntu Support
[21:48] <blocky> ah, awesome, thank you
[21:48] <Taj-AFK> I've asked a question on the topic and no one has responded to it yet so I'm just waiting.
[21:49] <ask471> argief also how can i "repair" an ubuntu instal without data loss?
[21:49] <scottamunga> Taj-AFK, what is the question?
[21:49] <Taj-AFK> ok, call me ignorant (but I'm sure this has been sked here before) I've already grepped my resolution modes for my monitor and got one that shows it matches what the new upgrade is looking for & changed it in the grub file...but it's a no-go.  It doesn't make sense to me why I'd change it in the grub on a single boot.  Where should I change the info? on the init.d?
[21:49] <hadi> Hi All i 'm chatting from emacs !
[21:49] <argief> ask471,  if you can browse the disk, then most probably everything is fine.  you must then unmount the drive and from cmd line use fschk
[21:49] <hadi> Awesome !
[21:49] <ask471> Taj-AFK: querry???
[21:50] <blocky> If you click on See more results, you get all of your installed apps. you know what would be great?  if clicking 'see more results' for Apps Available for Download would automatically launch the ubuntu software ceter
[21:50] <m477> each time I run for instant video on YT, firefox creates process called 'plugin-container' and it consumes hugh amount of cpu time, also after video finishes
[21:50] <ask471> fschk. that will be usefull forever, thx.
[21:50] <hadi> Hi
[21:50] <hadi> anybody out there ?
[21:50] <m477> I have to kill it each time to unload processor
[21:50] <ask471> so argief, can i actually "repair"????
[21:51] <ask471> hadi: hi
[21:51] <blocky> hadi, just ask your question, hopefully someone knows the answer :)
[21:51] <ask471> be patient
[21:51] <scottamunga> brb
[21:51] <ask471> helpful guyz here, trust me
[21:51] <mohd> hadi: hey .
[21:52] <argief> ask471,  it all depends on the problem.  Linux will allways work great until ur hardware packs up...
[21:52] <ptrkmj> i'd like to send ussd codes through my mobile modem to my ISP (to check my balance). how do i do that? do i need special application?
[21:52] <hadi> i wanna develope a simple IRC server for my term projrct in Java but i don't know how to start !
[21:52] <Trian3> Maybe a stupid question, but do requests for help get queued up or do we just need to ask again?
[21:52] <ask471> okay, so i can virtually rule out ubuntu as the culprit?
[21:52] <krababbel> Trian3: what? this is a chat :)
[21:52] <mohd> If you don't find an answer , https://help.ubuntu.com/community is a good place to start.
[21:53] <stefg> !volunteers
[21:53] <ask471> Trian3: ask again, politely
[21:53] <ask471> my qs are being answered....
[21:53] <hadi> Thank u ;-)
[21:54] <krababbel> Trian3: this is a busy channel still :)
[21:54] <argief> ask471, it could be mbr, but not very likely.
[21:54] <hadi> QUIT
[21:54] <ask471> argief and whats the cmd for fix mbr?
[21:55] <LinuxMonkey> We try to answer each and every question to the best of our abilities, we may not know the answer and thus why your question may still be unanswered. Hopefully someone who knows the answer will reply :)
[21:55] <ask471> hadi, i dont know irc/java dev, sorry
[21:55] <argief> ask471, oh and sorry, the comd to check drive is fsck (without the h).  you then need to add the device name, ie fsck /dev/sda
[21:55] <stefg> !fsck
[21:55] <mohd> Trian3: I'd try again after a while . or try to state my issue clearly.
[21:56] <ask471> thanks, argief....minor mistake...
[21:56] <argief> ask471,  grub-install
[21:56] <mohd> !details | Trian3
[21:56] <mohd> something like that :) .
[21:56] <argief> ask471,  to fix mbr.  again, please just read the man page.  or at the very least grub-install --help  (--help is the same as /help in ms)
[21:57] <Trian3> When trying to use rsync with a path on my hd as the source and a newly formatted USB stick as the destination, I'm encountering the following error:  rsync: mkstemp "/mnt/sdd1/.<filename.iso>.5j0fgW" failed: Input/output error (5).  I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[21:57] <ask471> argief that sounds like a plan....its fixed dual-boot issues for me before...will try it
[21:57] <Brustofski-Fan> wireless stoped working this is from var/log/jockey...     http://paste.ubuntu.com/970213/
[21:57] <stefg> Trian3: how large is the ISO?
[21:58] <ask471> argief, whats the quickest way to instal grub via ubuntu livecd
[21:59] <ask471> What is the way to instal grub via ubuntu livecd
[21:59] <argief> ask471,  my advise is to obtain as much info from client as you can.  in my experience the client did something to bring this on.  ask if he installed anything new or if someone else has used his pc.  it is easier to fix a problem if you know the exact cause
[21:59] <stefg> !pm | Trian3
[21:59] <Trian3> The iso is 2.6gb
[22:00] <ask471> argief yes, i use that methodology alot.
[22:00] <stefg> Trian3: and the filesystem on the USB stick is fat32?
[22:00] <ask471> am just getting ready
[22:00] <argief> ask471, sory didnt mean to patronize ;-)
[22:00] <Trian3> Yes
[22:00] <ask471> for a quick job...being sunday here and all!
[22:00] <Trian3> Yes, filesystem is fat32
[22:01] <remlabm> so i got nvidia drivers installed, but as soon as i turn on Enable Xinerama i get errors and my desktop starts to freeze. any ideas?
[22:01] <Taj-AFK> ok I'm assuming that no one here knows the answer to my question this time.  Thanks for all the help you guys have provided in the past and are continuing to provide to people to this very day.  Being the admin of a site myself that one aspect is running a support channel I understand and appreciate what you all are doing.  Much love and appreciation!  I'm out.
[22:01] <stefg> Trian3: does it always fail at the same point? How big is the partly written file?
[22:01] <argief> ask471,  quickest way: determine which device is his boot device (try fdisk -l /dev/sda ), then use grub-install /dev/sda (or whatever device is his marked as boot)
[22:01] <ask471> which directory should i backup to save all user data? home????
[22:01] <stefg> ask471: yes
[22:02] <mikel> i enabled the desktop cube in compiz... how do i use it?
[22:02] <argief> ask471,  is this a "home" user?
[22:02] <Trian3> afaik, yes.  The only file I see is titled ldlinux.sys and is 14.3 KB
[22:02] <stefg> remlabm: xinerama is deprecated with the nvidia driver
[22:03] <ask471> this is his home system connected to his work system
[22:03] <ask471> arg this is his home system connected to his work system
[22:03] <ask471> argief this is his home system connected to his work system
[22:03] <stefg> remlabm: use twinview
[22:03] <remlabm> how can i configure mutiple desktops with or with out nvidia proprietary drivers?
[22:03] <xangua> mikel doesn't work with unity
[22:03] <stefg> ^^^
[22:04] <argief> ask471,  ok, maybe Im not clear: if this system runs mail/web server there are some other dirs to backup
[22:04] <remlabm> thank you
[22:04] <ask471> thx stefg
[22:04] <mikel> ok :/  ..thanks xan
[22:04] <argief> ask471,  or mysql maybe?
[22:04] <stefg> remlabm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[22:04] <ask471> what about it? you dont think....
[22:05] <ask471> argief is mysql likely a cause?
[22:05] <argief> ask471, a cause of boot errors? never. but if he uses mysql/postgres/etc you should backup the databases as well.
[22:05] <mohd> Brustofski-Fan: It looks like that module is blacklisted on your system ,  could you share the output of dpkg -l | grep b43
[22:05] <ask471> argief ohhhhh. do yu mean backup db?
[22:06] <ask471> argief yes gotcha!
[22:06] <andygraybeal_> my alt-ft and my plain alt yield two different results when i type 'gedit' - what am i expecting and doing wrong?
[22:06] <andygraybeal_> alt-f2 i mean
[22:06] <Ojoloco> Guys, I need help: I'm hearing music from my headphones but also from my laptop speakers. How could I fix it?
[22:07] <argief> ask471,  ok so if not, then you only need to backup /home directory.  also, the /etc dir is used to keep all his config files (sort-off like control panel), if you can backup and restore this dir, his system should be the same as when he last accessed it.
[22:07] <Trian3> @Stefg Yes, it appears to be stopping at the same point.  The only file on the USB drive is ldlinux.sys and is 14.3KB
[22:08] <t0rx__> can anyone help me with a kernel compilation question?
[22:08] <stefg> Trian3: I'd try to reformat the stick then... if it's empty anyway.
[22:09] <mohd> t0rx__: just ask , and state the issue .
[22:09] <tyrannon> I'm running boot repair, does anyone know how long it takes to scan systems?
[22:09] <Trian3> @stefg Ok, I'll give that a try.  Perhaps also to redownload the file.  2.6gb, tho...  <sigh>
[22:09] <sanduz2> can someone help me find out why my ubuntu-server 12.04 cant access the net but i can still ssh into it and ping it from other hosts
[22:10] <stefg> Trian3: I/O-errors indicate it could be a hardware problem with the flash memory on the stick
[22:10] <ask471> okay /home and /etc......THX, yu guyz have answered all, and i mean allll my questions, except one: how does one repair an ubuntu instal, a-la-windoze????
[22:10] <t0rx__> When I compile the kernel if I include "modules-image" it dumps what appears to be module related bash code at the end.  If I install the .deb it complains with Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.3.4
[22:10] <MirkoKa> sanduz2: can you ping a DNS server like "ping 8.8.8.8"
[22:10] <sanduz2> MirkoKa: yes
[22:10] <Trian3> @stefg Then reformatting may not fix it.  I wonder if inserting it into a different USB port might help...
[22:10] <argief> sanduz2,  can you ping google.com?  maybe a dns resolution error
[22:10] <stefg> Trian3: and there were fake USB sticks which showed larger capacity than they actually had
[22:10] <ask471> how does one repair an ubuntu instal, a-la-windoze? is it even possible?
[22:11] <t0rx__> It also includes: Consult /var/lib/dkms/bcmwl/5.100.82.38+bdcom/build/make.log for more information.
[22:11] <sanduz2> argief: that gives me ping: unknown host google.com
[22:11] <MirkoKa> sanduz2: DNS servers aren't listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[22:11] <IdleOne> ask471: it is spelled windows and what does that even mean exactly?
[22:11] <sanduz2> MirkoKa: thank you
[22:11] <argief> ask471,  its not windows.  you need to change ur mindset.
[22:12] <ask471> i know....it would help if i can get that answer, please?
[22:12] <sanduz2> MirkoKa: why did ubuntu server come without dns servers but ubuntu desktop works fine?
[22:12] <IdleOne> ask471: what exactly do you mean by a la windows?
[22:12] <PW-toXic> hi, im looking for a cool simple(!) backup tool
[22:12] <argief> ask471, you dont "repair" linux, it just doesnt work the same way.  try the suggestions i gave, fsck and grub-install. thats it.  it should magically come to life again! :-)
[22:12] <ask471> IdleOne: as in repair instal without loss of data?
[22:13] <fl1bbl3> backup data, re-install, restore data.  Same way as windows :)
[22:13] <no-name-> anybody know what package contains libdvdcss.so.2 ? I am running 10.04
[22:13] <IdleOne> ask471: I'm not sure this is what you want to know but you can reinstall Ubuntu, even if /home is not separate, and not lose any data.
[22:13] <ask471> argief, okay then, will do...
[22:13] <sanduz2> MirkoKa: i think its because i chose static ip...
[22:14] <fl1bbl3> PW-toXic: backup to where?
[22:14] <PW-toXic> from my ubuntu fileserver to a qnap (for example)+
[22:14] <ask471> fl1bbl3: okay but not a repair is it?
[22:14] <stefg> Trian3: if you really want to test the stick you could completely zero it with a dd command. at the end you'll get a summary of how many bytes were written, so you a.) know the real capacity b.) know that it is writable c.) have a low level formatted stick that you can repartition and reformat
[22:14] <PW-toXic> with folders with more than 1 million small files
[22:14] <PW-toXic> and about 100GB
[22:14] <MirkoKa> sanduz2: possible, and then forgot to add the DNS server ips, while on the desktop you perhaps used full DHCP which also fetches the DNS servers
[22:14] <fl1bbl3> PW-toXic: rsync
[22:15] <sanduz2> MirkoKa: i see, why would ifup (which is what i used) forget to add them?
[22:15] <PW-toXic> fl1bbl3, is there a guy for that?
[22:15] <ask471> IdleOne: okay thanx, so its poss? how to do it??
[22:15] <Trian3> @Stefg What's the format for that?  Simply...  "dd"?
[22:15] <stefg> Trian3: what's the sticks device name ?
[22:16] <tuxface101> do you think archlinux would beat ubuntu in the future
[22:16] <Trian3> @Stefg /sdd
[22:16] <Guest16693> Hi, aim trying to isntall ubuntu from Windows, can't use CD to boot, installed files on local drive, but during instalatin, it says that no realibe file sytem..
[22:16] <sanduz2> MirkoKa: just trying to learnn for future reference
[22:16] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | tuxface101
[22:16] <fl1bbl3> PW-toXic: a user guide?  Its actually a pretty simple tool and the man page is pretty good.  Usually a simple rsync -avz --progress ./backupthis /mnt/tohere is all you need
[22:16] <ask471> tuxface101: trollface
[22:16] <argief> sanduz2,  ifup will only add dns if u use dhcp
[22:16] <MirkoKa> sanduz2: ifup doesn't add anything, it depends on exiting configuration which you either have to provide yourself (static ip) or are found by DHCP
[22:17] <stefg> Trian3: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev /sdd   ... be careful to use the correct device. It#s goiung to be zeroed
[22:17] <fl1bbl3> ask471: not in the sense you mean no, but it results in a working system without data loss
[22:17] <Random832> why use dd
[22:17] <Random832> just cp /dev/zero /dev/[the disk]
[22:17] <ask471> fl1bbl3: okay, tell me moreeee
[22:17] <PW-toXic> fl1bbl3, and then use cron tab to automatically call it?
[22:17] <Random832> dd is slower unless you specify a block size, since it defaults to 512 bytes
[22:17] <sanduz2> argief, MirkoKa: oh i see, so it seems like i would have to manually add these to interfaces file if i choose static ip config. thanks guys
[22:18] <IdleOne> ask471: you put in the ubuntu cd and when you get to the partitioning part of the install you select "manual" and make certain to uncheck the box where your /home is.
[22:18] <stefg> Random832: you want dd's final report
[22:18] <fl1bbl3> PW-toXic: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/  <-- good easy guide
[22:18] <stefg> Random832: and you want to write block by block, so the flash controller remaps worn out cells
[22:18] <Trian3> @stefg Thanks.  I'll try that now.
[22:19] <fl1bbl3> ask471: ^^ IdleOne's technique works fine, though I'm paranoid and would backup data areas first
[22:19] <llutz> !info rsnapshot | PW-toXic: you might want to look at this too
[22:19] <t0rx__> anyone know how to remedy bcmwl from messing up a kernel compile?
[22:19] <Random832> stefg: ok, huh?
[22:19] <ask471> IdleOne: ahhh clever one...so that results in a fresh instal but with the origina /home data! but doesnt that mean we get 2 /home dirs???
[22:19] <Random832> stefg: for one thing, cp does write sequentially
[22:19] <IdleOne> ask471: backups should always be done before any major system install/upgrade
[22:20] <Random832> stefg: for another thing, if you don't specify block size, dd writes in _smaller_ blocks than cp
[22:20] <PW-toXic> how do you think about backintime?
[22:20] <ask471> IdleOne: ofcourse, 3 copies!
[22:20] <Random832> stefg: ideally yyou want dd with a large block size specified, like bs=100M
[22:20] <IdleOne> ask471: no, because you will be telling the installer you already have a /home, where it is, and not to format it.
[22:20] <stefg> Random832 AFAIK dd uses bs=512 by default
[22:20] <Random832> right, and 512 is crap
[22:20] <mikel> what's the <super> key?
[22:20] <Random832> cp uses a block size of 32k by default i think
[22:20] <argief> mikel, aka "windows key"
[22:21] <mikel> k, thx
[22:21] <PW-toXic> fl1bbl3, i have some problems with incremental backups using hardlinks, because creating hardlinks for 1 million files or more because i changed one file, is quite expensive!
[22:21] <ask471> IdleOne: awesome, i get it now! thanks for ubuntu support, argief, fl1bbl3 , IdleOne
[22:21] <argief> ask471, again, windows vs linux.  you dont re-install linux every 3months like windows... mind shift....
[22:21] <mango> anyone just installed/upgraded to 12.04, I recommend this link: http://bit.ly/K1ePqE
[22:22] <ask471> oh and thx stefg
[22:22] <IdleOne> mango: please don't spam
[22:22] <mango> I'm not spamming.
[22:22] <mango> just sharing something that is useful
[22:23] <ask471> argief, its your duty oh masters, to wake me up from this doze!
[22:23] <ask471> thx all
[22:23] <IdleOne> mango: it is spam because it is not support related. and medibuntu is not useful.
[22:23] <hydester> does wine work properly on precise 64?  i'm trying to run programs intsalled by playonlinux and they appear to not have internet access
[22:23] <ask471> bye!!! early one...will keep yu posted after work
[22:23] <stefg> PW-toXic: you know rdiff-backup ?
[22:25] <ask471> IdleOne: whats wrong with medibuntu?
[22:25] <ask471> inb4 i go
[22:26] <IdleOne> ask471: not needed anymore.
[22:26] <ask471> but the post is so recent....
[22:27] <ask471> so thats outdated info? i better tell them!
[22:27] <xtjacob> Do i need to compile SLUB debugging into my kernel if i won't be doing any debugging?
[22:29] <stefg> Trian3: how is it going.... 4/8 Gigs should be done by now , even if we write 512B blocks
[22:29] <blocky> I was asking on here yesterday about how to mimic the windows 7 feature where you can dock windows left and right with super + left/right
[22:30] <blocky> I've just discovered it can be enabled with compiz config settings manager's plugin called grid
[22:30] <blocky> I remembered someone else mentioned they missed that feature also
[22:30] <Trian3> @stefg Thanks for asking.  I was having trouble using that command, so I opted to just wipe the partition & try re-creating
[22:30] <ndxtg> Does anyone know what is the best editor to edit a Adobe Illustrator file (AI)?
[22:30] <Juzor> hello. I'm searching for help to dev with portaudio lib does anyone already work with it or know where can I get some help ?
[22:31] <Trian3> @stefg Strangely, the device was previous /dev/sdd, but now is /dev/sde (Grrr...  I so hate having to climb over the newbie hurdle.)
[22:31] <Trian3> @stefg Glad you guys are here to help
[22:32] <stefg> Trian3: the whole purpose was to write to every single block of the stick (to see if it works). The device change is caused by unplugging an using a different USB port
[22:32] <Trian3> @stefg I'll try again, then.
[22:33] <stefg> Trian3: and pay attention what dd reports at the end ... that's the real capacity of the stick
[22:34] <Krenair> Hi. I've been having some weird trouble recently.
[22:34] <Krenair> Every now and again my screen flashes and the whole UI stops responding. Only my cursor works.
[22:34] <Krenair> This is with Ubuntu 11.04 with the classic desktop
[22:35] <stefg> Krenair: Radeon card?
[22:35] <Krenair> stefg, no
[22:36] <Krenair> stefg, NVidia GeForce GTS 250, IIRC
[22:37] <stefg> Krenair: ok... the fglrx driver sometimes does things like that, but with the nvidia driver you should be fine
[22:38] <Trian3> @stefg I'm receiving an error when trying to execute that command.  I'm entering "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev /sde" and it's returning "dd: unrecognized operand '/sde'
[22:38] <Krenair> The computer keeps running. If I have music running or have friends on my MC server everything keeps working, I'm just unable to use any UI
[22:38] <Trian3> @stefg NM.  I think I know the problem.
[22:38] <Trian3> @stefg Space in the wrong place
[22:38] <stefg> Trian3: that's /dev/sde not /dev sde
[22:39] <Trian3> @stefg Running now.
[22:39] <ivke> I have opened xchat but it's not showing in unity launcher.
[22:39] <ivke> Like it's not open at all.
[22:39] <Trian3> @stefg BTW, how do I respond in chat directly to you?  Your messages to me are showing up in red...
[22:40] <stefg> Trian3: cut the @ ... just use my nick with a , or a :
[22:40] <viejotren> hi, i'm using ubuntu 11.10 what is the way to set up my proxy from command line? I tried adding export lines to /etc7enviroment but it does not works, anyone knows how?
[22:40] <Trian3> a:stefg How's that?
[22:40] <stefg> Trian3: but my client even works with the @ in front
[22:41] <Trian3> stefg: test
[22:41] <Trian3> :stefg test
[22:41] <Trian3> @stefg embarassing
[22:41] <stefg> Trian3: whenever my nick appears in a line i get a visual bell ... so don't worry
[22:41] <Trian3> @stefg Heh, ok
[22:42] <viejotren> what is the way to set up my network proxy from command line in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:42] <Trian3> stefg: Is there no status indicator while dd is running?
[22:42] <Trian3> trian3: test
[22:42] <Trian3> Trian3: test
[22:43] <stefg> Trian3: no ... only by tricks
[22:43] <Trian3> stefg: ok
[22:43] <Trian3> stefg: I'll bbiab, then.
[22:44] <llutz> Trian3: "killall -USR1 dd" in a 2nd terminal to force dd giving a status output
[22:44] <Mr_Kaizer> So I've read the forums, but does anyone here have a way of making a WNA3100 USB dongle working in Ubuntu?
[22:44] <Trian3> llutz: Thank you.  I'll try that
[22:44] <Krenair> stefg, might 'CPU0: Core temperature above threshold' messages in syslog have something to do with it?
[22:46] <stefg> Krenair: that's worth investigating
[22:46] <Trian3> 3.3 GB so far...  11.7 more to go
[22:46] <Krenair> Also [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged
[22:46] <Trian3> ok, brb
[22:48] <Mr_Kaizer> The non-standard driver made me have to hard reboot when I modeprobed, and the factory driver did nothing. I'm on a 64-bit machinem, running a Win7-Ubuntu dual boot.
[22:48] <stefg> Krenair: i think that indicates a problem. So if the problem suddenly appeared, without any related software changes it's time for a hardware check
[22:48] <Mr_Kaizer> modprobed*
[22:48] <MirkoKa> viejotren: on 12.04 (and I'm pretty sure on 10.04 too) adding to /etc/environment should work. do the env vars don't show up after relogin or do the internet programs (browser, mail, etc) not work
[22:50] <stefg> Krenair: check that your CPU fan is running, and still sitting tightly on top your CPU.
[22:50] <viejotren> Mirkoka: after add some lines in /etc/environment the browser does not catch the proxy
[22:51] <viejotren> Mirkoka: in fact after relogin it did not work
[22:52] <viejotren> Mirkoka: export http_poxy=http://account@proxy:port
[22:52] <Krenair> stefg: Truth be told I'm not sure how long I've been having this issue for.
[22:52] <aleprovencio> after a "setxkbmap -option ctrl:ralt_rctrl", control key works as expected, except for shortcuts set in ccsm, can anyone please help?
[22:52] <Krenair> So I'm not sure if there were any software changes... But there might've been.
[22:53] <stefg> Krenair: overheated CPU can cause weird symptoms... everything from flashing screens to sudden earthquakes
[22:53] <Krenair> Okay, CPU fan is working fine
[22:53] <Krenair> It's also still on top of the CPU
[22:53] <f4h5> id just like to say thanks to all the developers of ubuntu for this amazing free software :)
[22:54] <argief> Krenair,  any more info?  seems we are stabbing in the dark?  what are u doing before ui stop responding? or is it completely random?
[22:54] <Krenair> argief: Appears to be completely random.
[22:54] <Krenair> Hm wait a sec. No this doesn't look right
[22:54] <Krenair> There's a lot of dust between the fan and the CPU
[22:55] <ki4ro> f4h5: Nice
[22:55] <f4h5> :)
[22:55] <argief> Krenair,  what is the output from acpi -V ?
[22:55] <argief> it should tell u the cpu temp
[22:56] <MirkoKa> viejotren: no need for export in /etc/environment, but it seems that firefox (maybe other GUI browsers) doen't recognize the http_poxy var, try removing the export from the file and if that doesn't work, use your browsers settings to specify the proxy
[22:57] <Krenair> argief: http://pastebin.com/Pp9LCuKJ
[22:58] <viejotren> Mirkoka I'm using chromium, when i want to configure the proxy values from it, I got a message that i need to stup that using the OS
[22:58] <argief> MirkoKa,  Im assuming you did try adding it in the network settings (gui) ?
[22:58] <stefg> Krenair: I'd get a new pack of heat transfer paste, clean the box and all heat spreaders and reinstall the CPU fan for good measure. heat paste tends to get crumbly after a while
[22:58] <forgeaus> uh why did I get booted from sudoers?
[22:58] <argief> Krenair,  40C?  Thats fine.
[22:58] <argief> Krenair,  maybe check it regularly?  if you think cpu is the culprit?
[22:59] <viejotren> I just need to be sure that the target fail is /etc/environment, is that right?
[22:59] <Krenair> argief: I have no idea what the problem is, but I suspect CPU or graphics card
[22:59] <Krenair> what the problem is caused by*
[22:59] <stefg> Krenair: installing a CPU temp monitor to keep an eye on it won't hurt too much
[23:00] <argief> Krenair,  hav you checked top when it happens?
[23:00] <Krenair> argief: When it happens I lose all control over the computer.
[23:00] <Krenair> Seriously, only thing I can do is move the mouse.
[23:00] <MirkoKa> viejotren: chromium seems to not honor the var as well, what message do you get when using its own configuration?
[23:00] <argief> Krenair, even in tty?
[23:01] <stefg> Krenair: can you ctrl-alt-f1 to a tty?
[23:01] <Krenair> I haven't tried.
[23:01] <MirkoKa> argief: since I don't user a proxy I can't really test it. why do you ask?
[23:02] <argief> MirkoKa, sorry... question was for viejotren
[23:02] <Krenair> stefg: Next time it happens I'll do that. Thanks for the advice
[23:02] <Krenair> Also, that dust I mentioned behind the CPU fan: http://i.imgur.com/FUmxY.jpg
[23:02] <viejotren> Mirkoka: the message I got from chromium is that that browser does not have how to manage the proxy settings, that I need to tweak the
[23:02] <viejotren> the OS
[23:02] <viejotren> then chromium reads from it
[23:02] <argief> Krenair, do a cntrl+alt+F1 and type "top".  The top usage of your cpu will be the first line.
[23:03] <viejotren> argief: yes I did not try to add from the GUI
[23:03] <viejotren> argief: that's because I'm not using gnome as the window manager
[23:04] <viejotren> so I can't find the apropiatte applet
[23:04] <argief> Krenair,  im flying blind, so please stop me if im patrionizing...  but you can then use "pkill application_name" to stop the culprit
[23:04] <argief> viejotren,  what r u using?
[23:04] <Krenair> argief: Thanks! I'll try this
[23:05] <argief> Krenair,  maybe first try: ps aux | grep application_name.  you can then see the complete cmd line that was used to start the app.  this maybe helpfull to identify why it is hogging ur cpu cycles
[23:05] <stefg> Krenair: although it's not pretty the box seems reasonably clean. But vacuum cleaning the CPU fan (when box is switched off) would help
[23:05] <viejotren> argief: LXDE
[23:06] <Krenair> argief: It's not even necessarily high CPU usage. But it's worth looking into, yeah
[23:06] <bcbc2> \
[23:06] <argief> Krenair, imho if GUI stops responding, it is cpu usage/heat
[23:06] <eutheria> is there a shortcut to activate the virtual desktop switcher?
[23:07] <argief> viejotren, ok, and what are u using to control network? network manager?
[23:07] <Trian3> stefg: Ok, the dd command has finished.  Upon completion it says, "dd: writing to '/dev/sde': No space left on device
[23:07] <minecrafter> Hey y'all
[23:07] <viejotren> argief: yes
[23:07] <Trian3> stefg: 31301632+0 records in, 31301631+0 records out
[23:07] <stefg> Trian3: and after that ist says how many bytes were written
[23:08] <Trian3> stefg: 16026435072 bytes (16 GB) copied, 1525.33 s, 10.5 MB/s
[23:08] <Guest16634> is there a ubuntu help channel?
[23:08] <stefg> Trian3: ok... test passed
[23:08] <Trian3> Guest16634: you're in it
[23:08] <stefg> Trian now you need to make a partition table and a partition and format that
[23:09] <stefg> Trian3: ^^
[23:09] <ki4ro> LOL
[23:09] <Trian3> stefg: Ok, good.  I've already made the partition table.  I just need to format.
[23:10] <argief> viejotren,  ok great my NM is not working...  do you not see a setting when you click on edit connections?
[23:10] <Guest16634> Alright, well not sure if Im in the right place for my problem, I have an ancient Graphics Card (Nvidia Geforece MX 420) that I cannot find the drivers for linux
[23:11] <viejotren> argief: no, nothing like proxy settings of network settings
[23:11] <iObey> Hi there.. I can not seam to get the latest ubuntu to reveal the taskbar thing on the left whan i have it set to auto hide.. i have to press a button ... what settting do i need to tweak to get ti to pop out hwne i move my mose to the left of screen?
[23:11] <stefg> !info nvidia-legacy
[23:11] <Trian3> stefg: Hmmmm...  I used the command "mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n BT5 /dev/sde1 and it came back with "mkfs.vfat: /dev/sde1 contains a mounted file system"  Is that an error?
[23:11] <L3ct3rIII> Hello everyone.
[23:11] <MirkoKa> viejotren: did you really used the Manual method and have added the proxy url in the various entries? don't use the Automatic method and don't add the :port to the url, but give the port in the fields next to it
[23:11] <L3ct3rIII> Can someone help me out there?
[23:12] <L3ct3rIII> Simple question.
[23:12] <ki4ro> iObey: Try MYUNITY...it should help you get it working correctly
[23:12] <L3ct3rIII> The only conection I have is a 3G one.
[23:12] <Guest16634> so I'm assuming I'm kinda out of luck
[23:12] <L3ct3rIII> I want to know how can I conect to it from the CLI.
[23:12] <L3ct3rIII> I mean, start the conection without even loading X.
[23:13] <stefg> iObey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ... you need the -legacy driver , not -current
[23:13] <L3ct3rIII> Is there some good soul that can help me with this?
[23:13] <iObey> ki4ro, ok.. thanks.. I'll give that a look see
[23:13] <ki4ro> iObey: Welcome...good luck...can always check back here if that doesn't help
[23:13] <Trian3> stefg: n/m I got it
[23:14] <stefg> Trian3: pull the stick and re-insert. the kernel didn't notice we were nuking the stick, and you should have unmounted first
[23:14] <iObey> stefg, sorry do you mean the "default" one or the one you insal from aditiona drivers? as there are two in there I am ruuing one of them as one dose not install
[23:14] <Trian3> stefg: Yeah, I just did (unmount)
[23:14] <argief> Guest16634,  use pppd
[23:15] <Trian3> stefg: I have 2 partitions, a 2.5Gb fat32 partition and the remainder is ext3.  It's formatting the 2nd one now
[23:16] <stefg> iObey: wait... i recall there is a problem with older nvidia-drivers and newer X. you're stuck to the nv /nouveau driver with that MX440
[23:16] <argief> viejotren, there is a way to do it with iptables, if u are realy hardup
[23:16] <jeremiah_> how do i get and install lwjgl?
[23:16] <Guest16634> what exactly did pppd do?
[23:17] <argief> Guest16634,  "did"?
[23:17] <Guest16634> it made random characters appear
[23:17] <stefg> Guest16634: it does dial up connections ...
[23:18] <Guest16634> why am I trying to do dial up connection?
[23:18] <argief> Guest16634,  did u set it up?  you need to setup the .conf file in /etc
[23:18] <argief> Guest16634,  it works on a 3g modem.
[23:19] <Guest16634> I'm not trying to work with anything dealing with my network, just my graphics card lol
[23:19] <argief> Guest16634,  oops...  sorry thought you were talking bout mobile gsm 3g nework! lol
[23:19] <iObey> ki4ro, that config pannle is not helping :(
[23:19] <eutheria> you know what, i don't hate unity in 12.04 any more
[23:20] <iObey> stefg, I'll try rolling back to that other driver
[23:20] <sanduz2> i gave my ubuntu server 12.04 a static ip and it seems this stops dns from working (cant resolve domain names). any ideas?
[23:20] <Guest16634> gotcha, that's why I was like, what're you talking about??
[23:20] <sanduz2> i didnt find any dns options in the manual for interfaces file
[23:20] <LinuxMonkey> argief: that was  L3ct3rIII and he's gone
[23:20] <krababbel> sanduz2: put it in /etc/resolvconf/head
[23:20] <stefg> iObey: should be easy... just delete/rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:20] <eutheria> i still think virtual desktops are left to right not 2x2
[23:20] <ki4ro> iObey: Sorry...that's all I have knowledge of...maybe others can help more
[23:21] <iObey> brb
[23:21] <krababbel> sanduz2:  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:21] <sanduz2> krababbel: thanks, ill try that. that file says not to edit it directly though, is there a "right" way to do it?
[23:22] <stefg> sanduz2: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[23:22] <gunny17> Good evening all ! I am still having trouble playing you tube videos on 11.04 on firefox.  I have installed teh latest flash plug-in and still no luck.  Anyone have any other suggestions?
[23:22] <krababbel> sanduz2: I got told here to do it, I know it says don't touch, but it works :)
[23:22] <pehden> um command to see system temp
[23:23] <MirkoKa> pehden: sensors
[23:23] <sanduz2> thanks
[23:23] <pehden> thanks mirkoka
[23:23] <krababbel> sanduz2: I think 'resolvconf -u' takes information from there, but I also noticed I got the same server twice in resolv.conf then too. Good luck. :)
[23:24] <stefg> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf-ubuntu-12-04
[23:24] <krababbel> sanduz2: resolvconf package manages dns in ubuntu, maybe you could just remove it too
[23:24] <ki4ro> gunny17: Try Google chrome
[23:24] <sanduz2> krababbel: hmm ok ill look into that thanks
[23:24] <forgeaus> UGH! ubuntu booted me from sudoers when I tried setting a root password!
[23:24] <gunny17> I did.  Still nothing.  I also tried Opera!
[23:25] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, you don't want to set a root password
[23:25]  * stefg hates it when for no apparent reasons things change .... who need f*ing network manager on a server?
[23:25] <ki4ro> gunny17: Must be CPU issue then
[23:25] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: I wouldn't have needed it if this stupid policykit window didn't replace my kdesu one and keep asking for a root instead of sudo password
[23:26] <Trian3> stefg: Unfortunately, I'm getting the same error when trying to use the rsync command...  Full output of error is as follows...
[23:26] <Trian3> stefg: rsync: mkstemp "/mnt/sdd1/.BT5R2-GNOME-64.iso.sReMW4" failed: Input/output error (5)
[23:26] <Trian3> total: matches=0  hash_hits=0  false_alarms=0 data=2762084352
[23:26] <Trian3> sent 2762421606 bytes  received 31 bytes  87695924.98 bytes/sec
[23:26] <Trian3> total size is 2762084352  speedup is 1.00
[23:26] <Trian3> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7]
[23:26] <FloodBot1> Trian3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <Trian3> Sorry for flood
[23:26] <gunny17> ki4ro: how can I know if it is or not?
[23:26] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: erm maybe it ws kdesudo not kdesu lol
[23:26] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: my heads still back in edgy and feisty days sometimes :)
[23:26] <stefg> Trian3: sdd1 is your 2.5 GB fat partition, right?
[23:26] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, never used kubuntu at least for more then about 5 minutes.
[23:27] <ki4ro> gunny17: Well if no browser gives you what you want then it must be a CPU issue in my humble opinion
[23:27] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, lol it happens
[23:27] <Trian3> stefg: Yes
[23:27] <gunny17> ki4ro: hmmmm...
[23:27] <stefg> and you are trying to copy a file how large?
[23:27] <ki4ro> gunny17: Maybe others have another idea
[23:28] <stefg> Trian3: ^
[23:28] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, with a quick google og the policykit and kde I do see some bugs
[23:28] <Fyodorovna> s/og/on
[23:28] <gunny17> ki4ro: strange everything else seems OK.  Runs well.
[23:28] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: doesn't matter, kdesudo (formerly kdesu but broke  with parallel kde3 and kde4 so kdesudo was made as a fix or something) anyway so kdesudo is just the kde version of gksu right? ...
[23:28] <ki4ro> Wadya think folks, if no browser works with youtube does he have a cpu/graphics card issue?
[23:29] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, not sure I have not used it enough to know the commands
[23:29] <Trian3> stefg: Erm...  2.6G...  Ok, so I'm merely following these instructions to the letter.  Why would they have me create a 2.5G partition then copy a 2.6G file to it???
[23:29] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: yes but you do know gksu right?
[23:30] <krababbel> gunny17: what does not work? does it crash?
[23:30] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, some what I use gksudo mainly
[23:30] <stefg> Trian3: GB is not GiB ... confusing ... i know
[23:30] <sanduz2> krababbel: i found out the best way to do it, add a line to interfaces in your static config with 'dns-nameservers 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0' ;) enjoy
[23:30] <Trian3> stefg: So, does the context of that error make sense given what I'm seeing?
[23:30] <gunny17> ki4ro: It does nothing.  Just a black screen.
[23:30] <sanduz2> its weird that this parameter is not in the man pages for interfaces
[23:30] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: oh ok gnome has a gksudo now too? I see.. ok well that one then ...either is fine!
[23:30] <stefg> Trian3: shure... the file simply does not fit
[23:30] <gunny17> ki4ro: It does nothing.  Just a black screen.
[23:30] <krababbel> sanduz2: Thanks, I didn't put a mask in there, when I tried it. :)
[23:30] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, not real familiar with the differences really yeah.
[23:30] <Trian3> stefg:  I wouldn't normally expect "input/output error", but something more...  I don't know...  helpful
[23:31] <ki4ro> gunny17: Don't know...hopeful others may have a suggestion for you
[23:31] <gunny17> krababbel: It does nothing.  Just a black screen.
[23:31] <sanduz2> krababbel: not sure if the mask matters much there, does it? i put one just in case, im no networking expert
[23:31] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: none of this helps me get my password back! ...
[23:31] <Trian3> stefg: But I'll try recreating the partition.  3.5Gb, perhaps.
[23:31] <krababbel> I'll try again, and see. Had to reinstall and didn't remove network manager yet. :)
[23:32] <sanduz2> well have fun krababbel
[23:32] <forgeaus> Fyodorovna: I can't even sudo anymore! :(
[23:32] <krababbel> sanduz2: thank you
[23:33] <krababbel> gunny17: sorry, what graphics card?
[23:33] <gunny17> krababbel: The screen is black.  Maybe one out of twenty will load and play.
[23:33] <gunny17> nvidia
[23:33] <Fyodorovna> forgeaus, hmm, I will say that we are probably way beyond my skill set, I have some specialty areas mainly I'm just a user really.
[23:33] <krababbel> gunny17: do you have nvdpau1 installed?
[23:34] <krababbel> gunny17: what driver do you use?
[23:35] <gunny17> krababbel: The experimental one by ubuntu developers
[23:36] <gunny17> krababbel: The experimental 3D support found by "additional drivers".
[23:38] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: What happens when you try to use sudo?
[23:38] <gunny17> krababbel: should I try nvdpau1?
[23:38] <rattatoue> I am on ubuntu 12.04. Randomly compiz crashes and icons randomly go invisible on the unity bar. And its never the same application, its multiple ones. Any ideas? I've tried nvidia-current and even an nvidia-beta driver.
[23:38] <krababbel> gunny17: experimental? you mean the post-release drivers? You could try adding /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and put EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 in there. You'll need nvdpau1 installed too.
[23:38] <era878> Can somebody help me install GTX570 drivers?
[23:39] <krababbel> gunny17: This is unstable though. And it will be forever, since Adobe dropped Linux development.
[23:39] <krababbel> gunny17: Did you try html5 too?
[23:40] <stefg> era878: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:40] <Jordan_U> krababbel: gunny17: While Adobe dropped Linux development, Google simultaniously agreed to continue development of flash for linux.
[23:40] <krababbel> gunny17: libvdpau1 it's called
[23:40] <wildman330> so adobe never plans to release any more flash updates for Linux ever again?
[23:40] <krababbel> Jordan_U: Yes, but only for Chrome. DRM seems to become a real headache in the future.
[23:41] <Trian3> brb
[23:41] <gunny17> yes html5 too
[23:41] <wildman330> How is Google going to develop Flash when they don't own the code?
[23:41] <krababbel> gunny17: You could try that hardware acceleration, but seems your card isn't supported well.
[23:41] <krababbel> wildman330: They will put it in Chrome.
[23:42] <wildman330> I am still getting the "smurf" effect from Flash.  Anyone else?
[23:42] <MirkoKa> wildman330:  there are also opensource implementations of flash
[23:42] <gunny17> krababbel: Thanks I will try it.
[23:42] <wildman330> Yeah but those open-source Flash versions (like Gnash) don't work very well
[23:42] <krababbel> wildman330: You can add /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and put EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 in there. You'll need libvdpau1 installed too.
[23:42] <Jordan_U> krababbel: Only for the Pepper API, which is open and thus can be supported in Firefox and other browsers in the future.
[23:42] <nintet> how do you install kqemu and libvirt in the new ubuntu 12?
[23:43] <nintet> forget it
[23:43] <krababbel> Jordan_U: I read that Chromium wont get it for instance, but I don't know really.
[23:44] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: I get the message: forgeaus is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[23:44] <krababbel> They say it will be only for Chrome.
[23:44] <`prixon> when I'm installing packages, are they installed in the /home folder or in the filesystem/root itself?
[23:44] <wildman330> krababbel, I don't have an /etc/adobe directory
[23:44] <Zarathust> I'm trying to dist-upgrade from 10.04, but apt-get tells me that there is no more recent version available
[23:44] <krababbel> wildman330: addit
[23:44] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: What is the output of "groups"?
[23:44] <Zarathust> I'm not sure what to look for from here
[23:44] <Flynsarmy> how can i make alt+tab in unity switch between all open windows on current workspace instead of grouping by application?
[23:45] <forgeaus> forgeaus vboxusers
[23:45] <Jordan_U> Zarathust: update-manager --devel-release
[23:45] <Jordan_U> Zarathust: You won't be prompted to upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04 until 12.04.1 is released.
[23:45] <gunny17> krababbel: Thanks I will try it.
[23:46] <Zarathust> great thanks to you
[23:46] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: forgeaus vboxusers
[23:46] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: That's all?
[23:46] <Zarathust> "normal" update-manager didn't prompt me for the dist upgrade
[23:46] <Krenair> argief, it just happened again when I was changing windows. I tried ctrl + alt + f1 but nothing changed
[23:46] <MirkoKa> forgeaus: if you have another user with sudo privs use that to add yourslef back to the sudo and admin group. if not, you need a livecd
[23:46] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: yes apparently, I think ubuntu punished me for trying to set a root password :(
[23:46] <Krenair> The way the screen was when it broke made it look like the problem was to do with graphics
[23:46] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: No, it doesn't work like that.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: How was this user created?
[23:47] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: then why would it do this?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: I don't know.
[23:47] <RangerMauve> Bleh, is there a way to watch netflix on Ubuntu?
[23:47] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: from the liveCD installer...
[23:47] <argief> Krenair,  is it still like that? or have you rebooted?
[23:47] <Krenair> argief, I have to reboot when it happens
[23:47] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: What did you do to try to set a root password?
[23:47] <Krenair> There's no other way to fix it
[23:47] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: sudo worked right up until I gave the command sudo passwd root
[23:48] <gsr> `prixon, the contents of a deb package are installed into the linux filesystem as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview, as well as some leeway in where certain files go
[23:48] <wildman330> krababbel, thanks that worked
[23:48] <argief> Krenair, ok sorry, thought it was on another pc.  so you were not able to switch to text console with cntr+alt+F1?
[23:48] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: my graphical sudo was replaced with some policykit one asking for a root password instead of my sudo one
[23:48] <MirkoKa> forgeaus: petty unlikely, that wouldn't remove you from more that half a dozend other groups
[23:48] <Krenair> argief, nope.
[23:48] <argief> was ur screen black? Krenair
[23:49] <Krenair> no
[23:49] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: Just the command "sudo passwd root" would not change what groups your user is in, and without your user being in either the "admin" or "sudo" group it's expected that sudo will not work.
[23:49] <forgeaus> MirkoKa: what? not just sudoers? I'm out of lots more?
[23:49] <argief> Krenair,  how did it look? ur mouse pointer still moving?
[23:49] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: seems to me that thats part of the punishment! I could sudo before running that command
[23:49] <Krenair> argief, it looked like I had been changing between two different windows. (Some parts of one window were displaying in the box of another)
[23:49] <MirkoKa> forgeaus:  default for normal users is: cdrom,floppy,dialout,tape,dip,adm,plugdev,fax,fuse,video , for admins is cdrom,floppy,dialout,tape,dip,adm,plugdev,fax,fuse,admin,sambashare,lpadmin,video
[23:49] <Krenair> argief, The mouse pointer, as I said earlier, still works
[23:50] <forgeaus> MirkoKa: wow thats a lot
[23:50] <argief> Krenair,  did you try siwtching on/off ur numlock?
[23:50] <Krenair> argief, what would numlock do?
[23:50] <`prixon> gsr, so how will creating a separate partition as a /home partition would help me if I reinstall ubuntu on a different filesystem-partition?
[23:50] <forgeaus> well this is the user I set up initially during install
[23:50] <krababbel> wildman330: no problem, it is a bit unstable though
[23:51] <Flynsarmy> i've disabled the unity run dialog in ccsm and turned on 'run dialog' in 'gnome compatability' as well as the keyboard combination in keyboard shortcuts...yet it's not giving me the old gnome 2 style run menu. any ideas why?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: My guess is that there was some major problem which caused both the change in policykit's behavior and your loss of most of your groups.
[23:51] <krababbel> wildman330: another way would be to remove libvdpau1
[23:51] <gsr> `prixon, because you would keep all your personal files - documents, personal settings, and anything else in your user directory
[23:51] <argief> Krenair, thats the last trick.  if ur system "freezes", the last thing you check is numlock.  if the light for numlock still goes on/off then ur system has not completely frozen and you may yet be able to restore order.
[23:51] <era878> Does anybody know how much RAM the desktop 12.04 ubuntu uses
[23:52] <gsr> `prixon, it won't keep the applications installed through apt or dpkg.
[23:52] <krababbel> wildman330: then the mms.cfg isn't needed, but you'll have no hw acceleration
[23:52] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: I want to say that Policykit changed to ask for your root password because sudo was broken from your user not being in the proper group, but that doesn't fit with the fact that you were able to run "sudo passwd root" successfully.
[23:53] <todd_> can someone recommend a dvd authoring tool that does menus, I have the video I just need to make it more... DVDie?
[23:53] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: but I wasn't able to run it successfully
[23:53] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: Wait, did you get this error when you ran "sudo passwd root"? If so, then that confirms my theory.
[23:53] <Krenair> argief, my system hasn't completely frozen.
[23:53] <Krenair> argief, audio from youtube still plays and people can still use my minecraft server
[23:54] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: Then the explanation for Policykit changing its behavior is that it detected that sudo couldn't possibly work.
[23:54] <Krenair> It's just what I see on the screen that's screwed up
[23:54] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: I ran it and I used my password, then it gave me the error saying I wasn't in the sudoers group, after that, thats all I ever get if I try to use sudo
[23:54] <`prixon> so assuming someone is using a home-partition and a filesystem-part., after he reinstalls he will have to install all apps again, did I get it correctly this time?
[23:54] <argief> Krenair,  when you move the mouse pointer, does it jumble up ur screen?
[23:54] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: I wasn't using policykit before normally, I was using kdesudo (from kubuntu-desktop)
[23:54] <Krenair> argief, the cursor moves around normally.
[23:55] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: when I installed I think it was appler, it replaced my kdesudo pass prompt with the policykit one
[23:55] <MirkoKa> forgeaus: whatever the reason was, I'm pretty sure you need to use a livecd to add yourself back to the groups
[23:55] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: That doesn't matter. The only actual problem is that you lost most of the groups that your user should be in, everything else you've described is a symptom of that original problem.
[23:55] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: I didn't know how to change it back so I decided to try adding a root password
[23:55] <argief> Krenair, and ur music doenst skip or play weird?
[23:56] <Krenair> argief, nope.
[23:56] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: will I still be able to log in at all if I reboot?
[23:57] <MirkoKa> forgeaus: yes, but you will probably face a  lot of problems as you aer out of so many other groups
[23:57] <javahelp> embedded java clients wont work in firefox. what do i need to fix to get it to work?
[23:57] <argief> Krenair, thats really strange.  So the only problem is that your gui doenst function aymore?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> forgeaus: Probably, but I'm not sure. You need to boot from a LiveCD, or hold shift during boot and select "recovery mode" and add yourself back to the proper groups.
[23:58] <forgeaus> Jordan_U: I guess I'll try that
[23:58] <`prixon> how much gb should I allocate for a home partition (if I just want to use it for saving my preferences and a virtual-machine of XP(which I guess is 6gb?)) and how much should I allocate for the filesystem/ubuntu 12.04?
[23:58] <Krenair> argief, pretty much.
[23:58] <argief> Krenair, logs?  was it only ur cpu overheating error that seemed out of place?
[23:59] <argief> Krenair, no dumps or exceptions?
[23:59] <Krenair> argief, what logs do you want to see? The only errors which really seemed out of place were the CPU ones
[23:59] <spiderworm> any c++ programmers in here? please message me, need a probably easy answer to a simple question
[23:59] <Jordan_U> spiderworm: /join ##c++