[00:00] <nixternal> ScottK: I used to maintain that in debian. i haven't paid attention if the developer keeps it updated (re: skulpture)
[00:42] <ScottK> nixternal: It way behind in Debian.  Unless you want to maintain it, you should probably ask to have it removed.
[04:08] <utu-san> no 4.8.3 for quantal?
[04:34] <ScottK> Coming
[05:44] <kio_http> Hi I was wondering when kde 4.8.3 will be in the main represitory or at least just the new kmix version.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:38]  * BluesKaj searches for virtuoso bug ...it eats cpu for no reason "waiting for something to happen"
[13:39] <BluesKaj> using cpulimit in xterm , to keep it under 30%
[13:46] <ali_> hi, how can i get the progress of synatpic from a command line?
[14:19] <EagleScreen> did you remove firefox-kde-support? (KMozillaHelper)
[14:25] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen, my understanding is mozilla no longer supports kde integration ...dunno for sure since only seen comments in passing 
[14:26] <EagleScreen> I will see if OpenSUSE keeps it for 12.2
[14:41] <jacky> Is there a specific reason why they dropped KDE support?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> jacky, a conspiracy against opensource ? :)
[14:54] <jacky> From a open source foundation? :P Not likely XD
[14:56] <BluesKaj> pressures from outside ...look at canonical dropping support for kubuntu ...it starts small ..thin edge of the wedge and all that
[14:56] <BluesKaj> adobe flash 
[14:58] <jacky> Would make sense, true. But Canonical had good reason; Kubuntu's really mature.
[14:58] <jacky> And maybe it's because we like rekonq more than Firefox :P
[15:18] <BluesKaj> jacky, like reqonk more than FF ? ..maybe in your circle , but rekonq is waaay too unstable to be a reliable browser IME
[15:19] <jacky> I think it needs more usability testing imho
[15:19] <jacky> and I was seriously considering adding a scripting API
[15:20] <jacky> but then I saw someone mention support for Chromium extensions.
[15:20] <jacky> but eh.
[15:20] <jacky> maybe when school's out.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> chromium isn't my fav , but it's stable 
[18:33] <Darkwing> anyone there yet? :)
[20:01] <Ezim> Darkwing, this is not the support section if your question is about support.
[20:01] <Ezim> section/channel
[20:03] <ScottK> Ezim: It's not.
[20:03] <ScottK> Darkwing: I'm as there as I'm going to get.  How about that.
[20:04] <Ezim> will we get gdebi for 12.10?
[20:05] <Ezim> now to install deb files people needs to install gdebi or use command line
[20:05] <Ezim> not the most userfriendly way
[20:05] <ScottK> JontheEchidna will, I'm sure, fix that.
[20:05] <Ezim> ScottK, did not really get you.
[20:05] <ScottK> You want a user friendly way to install .deb files.
[20:06] <Ezim> ScottK, exactly.
[20:06] <ScottK> I think JontheEchidna will support that in muon* some way.
[20:06] <JontheEchidna> use the qapt-deb-installer, which comes by default
[20:06] <ScottK> Ezim: ^^^ use that.
[20:06] <Ezim> qapt-deb-installer have not been good like gdebi
[20:06] <Ezim> in 11.10
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> it's had a bunch of improvements in 12.04
[20:07] <Ezim> but then again I am using ppa for more up to date muon stuf
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> and if there are still issues w/ it in 12.04, I'd encourage you to file bug reports
[20:08] <Ezim> JontheEchidna, I have not installed 12.04 yet. but when I will do if there is a bug I will report.
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> :)
[20:09] <Ezim> JontheEchidna, muon packagemanager have been better with ppa I added. it is really fast and almost equal to synaptic.
[20:09] <JontheEchidna> glad to hear it
[20:09] <Ezim> muon software centre is fast, but not near ubuntu software centre. I hope improvement comes in this area.
[20:10] <Ezim> other then that muon is much better then the crap that was installed by default before muon came
[20:10] <ScottK> In fairness, Apper is much better now than Kpackagekit used to be.
[20:11] <Ezim> ScottK, was the name of the "crap" apper? :)
[20:12] <Ezim> first thing I did back then was installing synaptic
[20:12] <Ezim> now atleast I am running muon 
[20:12] <yofel> Ezim: you mean kpackagekit
[20:12] <yofel> apper is fine from what I've seen (not used it much)
[20:13] <Ezim> yofel, thx.
[20:21] <Ezim> guys/girls blue system will pay after 12.04
[20:22] <Ezim> is it to riddell only or more developer of kubuntu?
[20:28] <ScottK> Ezim: It was kpackagekit when we had it.  It's called Apper now.
[20:29] <Ezim> ScottK, thx for the info.
[23:12] <Mamarok> ScottK: I think I give up on bug 994469, that guy is helpless