[00:08] <artao> hai
[00:09] <artao> i've been looking thru the settings but haven't found this particular thing yet ... not even sure it's available ... .... i'd like new windows to appear in the center of the screen. right now they always snap to the upper left corner.
[00:24] <akSeya> folks.. the run command box is running away from my mouse :S
[00:25] <akSeya> if I go to the run command box from left or right the box "runs away"
[00:28] <BluesKaj> akSeya, try clicking in the desktop
[00:28] <m4v> akSeya: click?
[00:28] <akSeya> it worked
[00:28] <akSeya> wierd.. why that happened?
[00:31] <GH0> Why am I unable to change the view mode in Kubuntu to go into detailed/list mode? The folder that I am trying to change contains a bunch or archive files, mainly .zip.
[00:39] <BluesKaj> GH0,  dolphin>view>adjust view properties<view mode ? no details option?
[00:44] <GH0> I have a details option BluesKaj, the view just doesn't change. It seems to only be for this specific folder too. Others work fine. If I use another username, the same problem folder works fine.
[00:46] <BluesKaj> GH0, then i's probly folder permissions
[01:09] <ubuntu> hola
[01:10] <bazhang> !es | ubuntu
[01:12] <ubuntu> hola alguien sabe como entrar a el canal de mexico
[01:12] <bazhang> ubuntu, english here
[01:18] <xixor> sup.  I hear kde 4.8.3 is out in the kubuntu PPA.  What is this PPA?
[01:19] <xixor> ah, I see, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa, nice
[01:21] <xixor> so, when I installed kubuntu, much to my surprise, it provided RAID drivers for my RAID 1 mirror array I have on my gigabyte motherboard.  The drive is NTFS formatted, and I wasn't planning on using it.  But since kubuntu automatically found the drivers for the raid and is using them, and appears to have no problem mounting the drive in dolphin... I am wondering: is there much danger using an NTFS RAID 1 in dolphin and/or linux these d
[01:32] <artao> repeat of earlier question : i've been looking thru the settings but haven't found this particular thing yet ... not even sure it's available ... .... i'd like new windows to appear in the center of the screen. right now they always snap to the upper left corner.
[01:36] <GH0> Hm, I also have another issue. About seven times today in the past ten hours, my connections to my server have seemed to die. This has been happening since the latest samba upgrade, and/or possibly today. Is there any way to find out how /why it is happening?
[01:36] <GH0> It seems to be an issue solely when connecting to the broadcasted hostname of the machine.
[01:47] <GH0> And it just happened again.
[01:47] <GH0> As soon as I restart the smbd service, I can access the machine again over the network, via ping, ssh, samba shares, vnc, etc.
[02:12] <robotdevil> does everyone else get two update notifications in the system tray are too?
[02:13] <robotdevil> area*
[02:42] <robotdevil> Wow didnt think this question wouldnt get an answer.  I m just upgraded to 12.04 and was wondering when an update comes through if anyone else gets two notifications in the system try or not.
[02:44] <qbit> I don't - but I also don't use any autoupdate checking or notifications, have all that turned off as I prefer to check and do things manually
[05:07] <rotsy> hello guys
[05:08] <rotsy> I'm using kubuntu 11.10 and i'd like to upgrade it to 12.04
[05:08] <rotsy> i tried the update manager but it doesn't work
[06:23] <mcloy> how to start kde from console?
[06:24] <mcloy> how to start kde from consol?
[06:43] <john_____> < noob trying to install java any help from terminal ty ty
[06:43] <ForgeAus> yay finally!
[06:43] <ForgeAus> ok how to mount /dev/sdb3 as readwrite instead of readonly?
[06:44] <ForgeAus> I did sudo -i  then mkdir /mnt/sdb3  then mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt/sdb3 but it was read only
[06:44] <ForgeAus> so I unmounted it
[07:12] <artao> anyone live?
[07:13] <artao> as the only user of my computer, does it really matter where I install precomiped binary packages?
[07:14] <artao> I DO want them available to the system in general ...... i was planning on putting, say, Blender, in ~/bin ... or is it better to put it in /usr/bin ??
[07:32] <tsimpson> artao: if you are the only user, it doesn't matter so much where you put it. though, /usr/local is generally where user installed applications etc go
[07:35] <almoxarife> i am confused, how does one force an installation from repos to go where one chooses?
[07:37] <almoxarife> i have installed 'prelink' and have it running error free, how do i verify in realtime that the prelink process is actually taking place? i have not seen any way
[07:39] <tsimpson> almoxarife: you don't choose where packages from the repositories go, only ones you compile and install yourself. To see if a process is running, you can use the "ps" command in a terminal, or use System Monitor (under System in the K-Menu) for a GUI
[07:41] <almoxarife> tsimpson, been there done that, that does not show if prelinking as occurred
[07:43] <tsimpson> almoxarife: looks like prekink isn't something that runs all the time, but daily (from cron)
[07:46] <almoxarife> tsimpson, thats portion of the process i can verify easy enough, post prelink when the processes are taking place, thats where i want to be looking
[07:47] <tsimpson> unless you want to read about ELF file headers and dive in deep into what prelink actually does, I guess you'll just have to trust that it's done it's job
[07:48] <almoxarife> trust? :)
[07:49] <almoxarife> tsimpson, and i did do both, i did not manage to get it working without error without reading
[08:43] <CruX|> hello is there a way how can I convert kubuntu iso installer to bootable usb key ?
[08:43] <CruX|> in unetbootin there is no kubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso which I prefer
[08:45] <robin0800> CruX|: download the ISO separately and point unetbootin at it
[08:57] <CruX|> robin0800: thx
[09:17] <josy1982> Hi all :)
[09:58] <CruX|> robin0800: hmm instalation is failing with unetbootin :(
[09:58] <CruX|> http://put.sk/img/9366s10.png
[10:07] <mokush> I'm using chromium using about 6 open tabs, but system-activity shows about 20 chromium-browser processes. any idea why?
[10:08] <tsimpson> mokush: each extension, as well as each tab, and each plugin, all run in separate processes in chromium
[10:08] <mokush> tsimpson: oh, so extensions have separate processes also?
[10:09] <tsimpson> as far as I know, most do
[10:09] <manuel_> Hola
[10:09] <tsimpson> I have about 16 chrome processes running now, and I only have 3 tabs with 6 "background pages"
[10:10] <mokush> tsimpson: they sure are eating a lot of memory
[10:10] <tsimpson> yeah, chrome does that..
[10:10] <tsimpson> I tend to restart chrome every day or two, just to free up the memory
[10:10] <robin0800> CruX|: perhaps only the live cds can be put on usb sticks
[10:12] <manuel_> how can I get a swidish irc server?
[10:39] <robotdevil> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=95676
[12:41] <danielo_> hey everybody.
[12:41] <danielo_> I would like to ask you about hibernating system on 12.04
[12:42] <danielo_> when I click in menu, shutdown, hibernate
[12:42] <danielo_> it only lock my screen with screen saver
[12:43] <danielo_> when I give the command "pm-suspend" it works from root only
[12:43] <danielo_> can anybody help to resolve it?
[12:58] <ForgeAus> danielo_:  I think its only meant to work from root
[12:58] <ForgeAus> so maybe when you run it you should sudo first?
[12:58] <danielo_> right
[12:58] <danielo_> but why it doesnt work from kmenu with normal user?
[12:59] <danielo_> hibernation doesnt work for a normall user
[13:01] <ForgeAus> uh oh, I see, I can't answer that, mostly because I don't know
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:04] <ForgeAus> hey BluesKaj how are you?
[13:04] <ForgeAus> I'm in deep trouble here, my kubuntu isn't usabale again :(
[13:04] <BluesKaj> hi ForgeAus , fine thanks , and you ?
[13:04] <ForgeAus> and I have no idea whats going on
[13:04] <shaopo> do you know a tool for merging pdf's?
[13:04] <ForgeAus> it seems like everytime I fix something something even worse goes wrong
[13:05] <ForgeAus> merging pdf's uh I remember reading something about that, a proggy that splits and merges them but I think that was for OSX
[13:05] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, ok , what state are in atm , do you have a desktop ?
[13:05] <ForgeAus> BluesKaj:  would you like me to start from the start or just with the problem I have now?
[13:06] <ForgeAus> I ahve a desktop from the live CD if that helps any :)
[13:06] <ForgeAus> but not from my HDD install
[13:06] <danielo_> so anyone knows how to make hibernate work for a normal user
[13:06] <danielo_> ?
[13:06] <ForgeAus> danielo_: you might want to check if there is a group for it?
[13:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> have not liked using hibernate , seems to lock up system to much
[13:06] <BluesKaj> well, it would be good to know what happened and what you did to fix it , ForgeAus
[13:08] <ForgeAus> BluesKaj: well it all started from policykit getting in the way, instead of the normal kdesudo prompt I get, (I htink when I installed appler it switched it to policykit) ...which wanted my ROOT (lowercase I only capitalized for emphasis) password instead of my sudo password
[13:08] <ForgeAus> so I did a sudo passwd root, which gave me an error (this is a long story, only around half way there)
[13:08] <danielo_> yes I dont like hibernate to, but suspending to ram doesnt work at all
[13:08] <danielo_> :(
[13:09] <ForgeAus> I forgot the error but basically it told me it was reporting me! ...
[13:09] <ForgeAus> I had a desktop at that stage, but I was removed from most of my groups
[13:09] <ForgeAus> danielo_:  of course, if you turn your computer of, ram doesn't stay
[13:10] <ForgeAus> danielo_: or at least it isn't supposed to
[13:10] <danielo_> I know
[13:10] <danielo_> i had problem cause I cant suspend and hibernate computer
[13:10] <ForgeAus> oh thats right the eroor said forgeaus (my user of course) isn't in sudoers and that a report of the incident was generated (something to that effect)
[13:10] <ForgeAus> so I managed to boot from the live CD
[13:10] <danielo_> I was trying to reinstall atheros at5k i at9k
[13:11] <danielo_> but it dosent work
[13:11] <ForgeAus> found backup copies of gshadow, passwd groups and shadow in /etc
[13:11] <ForgeAus> so I replaced them after some readwrite mount ... but
[13:11] <ForgeAus> when I tried to log back into my desktop
[13:12] <ForgeAus> now I have a different issue, entirely, not sure if its some kind of malware or just a graphic driver issue, KDM itself works fine ...
[13:12] <mydogsnameisrudy> ForgeAus:  um that sounds painful ;)
[13:12] <ForgeAus> but I can't get to (its called a virtual terminal when you alt - F1/F2, etc? right) because no text screen seems to work at all which is really freaking me out
[13:13] <ForgeAus> and KDM doesn't get me to a desktop I think it accepts the login the screen goes to change modes, blanks for a bit, but returns back to a kdm login instead of a desktop
[13:13] <ForgeAus> so basically my Kubuntu is unusable
[13:13] <BluesKaj> for yeah , aTTY , ,,did you try sudo service kdm restart ?
[13:14] <ForgeAus> it doesn't seem to connect in any way to what I did
[13:14] <ForgeAus> no TTY's
[13:14] <ForgeAus> no nothing but KDM login that doesn't log me in
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, have you tried the recovery kernel, then the "repair broken packages" dialog
[13:16] <ForgeAus> uh ok recovery kernel repair broken packages
[13:16] <ForgeAus> any particular packages to check?
[13:16] <ForgeAus> or does that look for all?
[13:17] <ForgeAus> and no I didn't try that
[13:18] <keel> ForgeAus: do you mean Crt+alt+F1 ?
[13:18] <ForgeAus> does that just do a dpkg reconfigure -a kinda thing?
[13:18] <ForgeAus> keel control+alt+F1 doesn't work
[13:18] <ForgeAus> I get a black screen but no text, just some odd cutoff graphic which makes me wonder if its video drivers or something?
[13:18] <ForgeAus> or some kind of malware?
[13:19] <ForgeAus> its cut off at where I would expect the first line of text to finish, oddly enough so I guess thats vaguely encoraging
[13:21] <ForgeAus> uh blueskaj whats supposed to be in sudoers?
[13:22] <ForgeAus> and what should be permissions on the files in /etc groups, shadow, gshadow and passwd
[13:22] <ForgeAus> could that be why I can't log in?
[13:22] <danielo_> did You use ever tuxonice?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, I don't have much experimce in that area of users and groups , since I'm the only user
[13:23] <ForgeAus> same here I'm the only user
[13:24] <ForgeAus> can you just check your sudoers file and om me if theres a line that includes your username
[13:24] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, the reair dialog in the recovery kernel tries to fix any and all broken packages
[13:24] <ForgeAus> also check if theres a /etc/sudoers.d file
[13:24] <BluesKaj> repair
[13:24] <ForgeAus> bluesKaj I don't think I got broken packages
[13:25] <ForgeAus> but it might reconfigure something to fix I don't know
[13:25] <BluesKaj> you mighr since you have no X
[13:25] <ForgeAus> uh I'm going to try a few things
[13:26] <ForgeAus> can you run a command kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers and look through the file, probably at the very end there might be a line that mentions your user, don't save or make any changes though
[13:28] <ForgeAus> I guess the line either the line %admin  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL and/or %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL includes everyone in admin group as a sudoer
[13:28] <ForgeAus> thats the only thing I can see in there that would refer to my user
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, my sudoers file uses the no PW command , but I'll check
[13:29] <ForgeAus> so i think its not reading my group and users right, those files so I'm going to try permission changes and reboot, then if that not work repair
[13:29] <ForgeAus> no PW? hmm ok did you modify it or something? I don't see that here, but I'm at the end of the file, brb checking
[13:30] <ForgeAus> its pretty short, it also mentions a sudoers.d which I don't seem to have
[13:31] <BluesKaj> yes I modded the sudoers wth vi , got tired of the constant pw requirements
[13:31] <ForgeAus> nice but ignore that , it doesn't help me right now
[13:32] <ForgeAus> no lines that refer to your user? I guess those too that start with %admin and %sudo count them in automatically, mine is pretty short actually
[13:32] <ForgeAus> it only has around 29 or so lines
[13:33] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus,
[13:33] <BluesKaj> # Members of the admin group may gain root privilege %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[13:33] <ForgeAus> yeah
[13:33] <ForgeAus> ok so my admin group isn't working I guess
[13:33] <ForgeAus> so now I gotta fix permissions
[13:33] <ForgeAus> thats next step right?
[13:33] <ForgeAus> I fixed teh files by copying a backup version it saved
[13:34] <ForgeAus> but the permissions on those files I guess are wrong
[13:34] <BluesKaj> looks like you got into a can of worms when you had trouble with policykit
[13:34] <ForgeAus> so permissions on my sudoers file say -r--r----
[13:34] <ForgeAus> yeah it does
[13:35] <ForgeAus> but its changed things in my system so I'm just following my nose trying to unchange them :)
[13:35] <ForgeAus> it was quite rude of it to remove me from groups and stuff that I should have been in
[13:35] <BluesKaj> not an area of expertise for me
[13:36] <ForgeAus> ok in dolphin (details view) you can add a permissions column
[13:36] <ForgeAus> or you can use the command ls -l I think it is with a filemask like su*
[13:36] <ForgeAus> should show you permissions that way
[13:36] <ForgeAus> going to test it just to make sure I'm right
[13:37] <ForgeAus> yeah so ls -l sudoers in terminal should show you
[13:37] <ForgeAus> if your not in the /etc directory you need to add that
[13:37] <ForgeAus> ls -l /etc/sudoers
[13:37] <Joit> # User privilege specification
[13:37] <Joit> root	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[13:37] <Joit> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command after they have
[13:37] <Joit> # provided their password
[13:37] <Joit> # (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move
[13:37] <FloodBotK1> Joit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:37] <Joit> # it further down)
[13:38] <ForgeAus> wb joit, thx but I guess thats what pastebin is for lol
[13:38] <Joit> looks like
[13:38] <ForgeAus> anything longer than 4 or 5 lines (seems restrictive to me but hey)
[13:38] <Joit> thats my sudoers
[13:39] <ForgeAus> Joit, no mention of your user specifically though so thats good I shouldn't need to change that
[13:39] <Joit> yeah, i survive floodbots pointing finger
[13:40] <eurmzx> Hey
[13:40] <ForgeAus> so I need permissions for the files sudoers, shadow, gshadow, groups and passwd in /etc to check
[13:40] <eurmzx> Hey, did I connect?
[13:40] <ForgeAus> I wonder if I could google it?
[13:40] <eurmzx> Nevermind
[13:40] <Joit> i opened it at the konsole with sudo dolphin
[13:40] <Joit> then you can look at it and / or change
[13:41] <Joit> eurmzx:  no, its only your ghost :p
[13:41] <Joit> what is your problem actually ForgeAus, i only read you got problems with the policy
[13:41] <ForgeAus> ok my sudoers file is right with permissions
[13:42] <ForgeAus> Joit, yeah policykit I think caused the ball to roll
[13:42] <ForgeAus> but since then things have been going from bad to worse
[13:42] <eurmzx> Hey, can someone help me? Whenever I get a system notification, the system tray icons's size changes to default (while my panel is smaller)
[13:42] <Joit> cant you start your xserver anymore?
[13:42] <ForgeAus> I was updating with appler and policykit come in instead of kdesudo
[13:42] <eurmzx> It remains that way till you check out the notification
[13:42] <ForgeAus> yes I can run X (unless kdm doesn't use X)
[13:43] <ForgeAus> because KDM itself is about the only thing that seems to be working fine right now
[13:43] <Joit> sry eurmzx no idea
[13:45] <Joit> well, dunno ForgeAus, i would may try to fix broken packages or to repair a broken system with the cd. i fortunatly didnt have a lot problems like this. so not much experience
[13:45] <neweruser123> test
[13:46] <Joit> neweruser123:  when you can read this then you are not here
[13:47] <eurmzx> So, I got another problem. The sound menu shows two devices, Redwood HDMI Series Audio and Built In Analog Stereo. Built in Analog Stereo is the one used for sound (apparently?) but the sound function keys changes the volume of Redwood HDMI Series and not Analog Stereo. However, I can go to mixer and manually change it's volume.
[13:56] <neweruser123> i am here
[13:56] <neweruser123> i was doing something irl
[13:57] <Joit> np i was only j/k
[13:58] <neweruser123> this kubuntu is to much problem for me
[13:58] <neweruser123> how do i remove it
[14:00] <neweruser123> Joit?
[14:02] <Joit> either install 11.10 or put a other system into your cdrom and format the harddisc
[14:02] <neweruser123> so basically i put a windows CD inside and format the whole HDD? wont I lose windows 7 isntallation
[14:03] <neweruser123> the reason i want to remove kubuntu so i can switch to Linux mINT oR Ubuntu
[14:03] <Joit> do you have w7 at the hdd allready installed?
[14:03] <neweruser123> it might solve my audio problems
[14:03] <neweruser123> yes W7 installed
[14:03] <Joit> then you can format the partitions with the other linux distribution
[14:04] <Joit> you only need to know on which partition your kuubuntu is installed, to choose it at the new install, and format thi part new
[14:04] <neweruser123> ok when i go into a program likeGpareted there are so many kubuntu paritions
[14:04] <neweruser123> do i remove all of them?
[14:04] <Joit> you can specify the partition
[14:04] <Joit> partman can do that too
[14:05] <Joit> partitionmanager from kde does show it more clear too
[14:09] <mme> hello all
[14:09] <Joit> hello one
[14:09] <mme> hihi hi funny
[14:09] <mme> hello Joit
[14:09] <Joit> hello mme
[14:10] <Joit> btw, i am no bot :P
[14:10] <mme> i m a computerist installing linux ubuntu for friends of me
[14:10] <mme> and also irc
[14:11] <Joit> nice, just ubuntu? i do thinking about, if i should trow 11,10 over my 10
[14:11] <Joit> btw, i am no bot :
[14:11] <Joit> ups
[14:11] <mme> because the woman for who is the owner pc needhelp
[14:11] <forgeaus> back :)
[14:11] <Joit> i like kubuntu more with kde
[14:12] <mme> joit u don't know that ubntu 12.04 is there?
[14:12] <Joit> hope she sponsors you well with cockie and coffee
[14:12] <Joit> wb forge
[14:12] <mme> the LTS
[14:12] <Joit> mme, i do, but i have it allready on a 2nd pc
[14:12] <forgeaus> me too Joit :)
[14:12] <mme> www.ubuntu.com
[14:12] <mme> oki
[14:13] <Joit> anyhow not sure, which one is better, because 12 is to young maybe?
[14:13] <mme> there is a trouble of stability with 12.04 :(
[14:13] <Joit> i miss some things in 12 at the menu
[14:13] <forgeaus> ok so now I need to know how to either replace policykit back with kdesudo, or to make a root password
[14:13] <mme> she crash
[14:14] <mme> yes too young i send the repport error to developpers
[14:14] <mme> so bye bye see u soon
[14:23] <forgeaus> is there no klamav anymore?
[14:23] <IdleOne> clamav
[14:23] <forgeaus> getting that
[14:24] <forgeaus> but does it have a kde front end?
[14:24] <IdleOne> should work fine
[14:24] <forgeaus> there used to be KlamAV
[14:25] <IdleOne> http://sourceforge.net/projects/klamav/
[14:25] <IdleOne> doesn't appear to be in the repos though
[14:42] <jacky> IdleOne: package it :P
[14:42] <IdleOne> jacky: I'm not the one who wanted it :)
[14:45] <jacky> Ah, sorry ;P
[14:45]  * jacky downloads sources.
[14:45] <jacky> I wonder, if it's not too big; I'd package it.
[14:45] <jacky> Just a matter of keeping the PPA up to date, you know.
[14:49] <ikonia> and that's why PPA's suck as it's much more of a matter than "just keeping it up to date"
[14:50] <jacky> How so?
[14:51] <ikonia> doesn't matter, I'll just make a note to keep clear of that one
[14:52] <jacky> alrighty then, going to keep my questions to meself then.
[15:00] <goddard> is strigi ever gonna be done?
[15:03] <forgeaus> probably not :)
[15:03] <forgeaus> kidding I have no idea
[15:06] <goddard> i just turned it off
[15:07] <goddard> been going for like 6 days
[16:30] <GH0> How can I remove the config files that are installed with samba to start from scratch?
[16:30] <GH0> sudo apt-get purge doesn't want to remove them for some reason.
[16:30] <GH0> Removing samba, deleting the folder, and reinstalling samba also does not replace the folders.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to rename my external drive ,completely. It shows as external after renaming it with: sudo e2label /dev/sdf1 External , but when I drag it to the desktop , icon view shows the same series of letters and numbers that I was trying to rename in the fist place
[16:40] <ybit> GH0: have you checked for config files elsewhere unsing find ~/ -iname *samba* or sudo updatedb && locate samba?
[16:40] <EvilResistance> BluesKaj:  might be linking the folder which may be using that string
[16:41] <ybit> BluesKaj: that's really interesting
[16:41] <EvilResistance> BluesKaj:  i know with un-named drives it gets mounted like /media/0AC34DEADBEEF or w/e the string is normally
[16:41] <ybit> BluesKaj: maybe ask in ##linux, i sure don't know
[16:41] <EvilResistance> (even on servers or CLI, default mount is like that)
[16:41] <ybit> i'm curious though :)
[16:41] <EvilResistance> ybit:  this is the correct channel for him to ask, normally :P
[16:41] <EvilResistance> the alternative channel is #ubuntu :p
[16:41] <ybit> ##linux for when #kubuntu and #ubuntu fail :)
[16:41]  * EvilResistance calls ##linux the last-resort support area for Ubuntu and its derivatives
[16:42] <EvilResistance> i think BluesKaj is boycotting #ubuntu though :P
[16:42] <EvilResistance> but i digres
[16:42]  * EvilResistance returns to coding
[16:42] <ybit> for those who are biting at the nails for my virtualbox error yesterday...
[16:43] <ybit> when i did: apt-get remove virtualbox* && apt-get purge virtualbox* #and then downloaded and installed the generic linux version from the Virtualbox website
[16:43] <ybit> s/when/what
[16:44] <BluesKaj> EvilResistance, not boycotting , ubuntu just not relavent to me anymore , and one little mistake and I have the correction trolls on my case...that's as far I want to go about it .
[16:44] <ybit> all the virtual machines seem to work now
[16:44] <EvilResistance> same difference :P
[16:44] <ybit> i think there's so much traffic in #ubuntu it's hard for everyone to get help
[16:45] <ybit> i.e. your requests are a lot of times missed
[16:45] <EvilResistance> i think we can discuss this in #k-offtopic instead :P
[16:45] <ybit> oh :)
[16:45] <BluesKaj> well ,maybe to you , EvilResistance , but ybit makes agood point as well
[16:45] <EvilResistance> BluesKaj:  indeed.
[16:45] <EvilResistance> BluesKaj:  this is why i'm in about ten ubuntu channels xD
[16:47] <BluesKaj> I have some probs of my that need attn right now anyway , so I'm in the "need support mode", rather than in the "support mode"  :)
[16:51] <forgeaus> ybit I had no problem in pangolin getting virtualbox
[16:51] <forgeaus> however I did have to add the extensions to it and add my user to the vboxusers group
[16:51] <forgeaus> but everything seems to work even with an unsupported guest like macOSX
[16:52] <forgeaus> (considering my Host is not an apple machine)
[16:52] <forgeaus> and if you want help for virtualbox, I think there's a vbox channel
[16:56] <cbrunos> hi
[16:57] <cbrunos> will kde 4.8.3 be available on kubuntu 12.04 through the official repos eventually, or will I need to add the kubuntu updates ppa?
[16:59] <ybit> forgeaus: huh... i wonder if the vboxusers group had been created before or after the new virtualbox installation
[16:59] <ybit> forgeaus: there is a vbox channel
[17:00] <ybit> i just state problems in here for other kubuntu users who might come across the same problem
[17:00] <forgeaus> what was your problem?
[17:01] <ybit> life or kubuntu problems? ;)
[17:01] <ybit> one sec
[17:02] <ybit> cbrunos: i don't know
[17:02]  * ybit wonders how stable the kubuntu updates ppa is 
[17:02] <forgeaus> its ok I don't need to know I had enough problems of my own
[17:03] <xixor> cbrunos: no idea.  the fact that 4.8.3 is in the staging area of the kubuntu ppa implies to me that it is slated for incorporation into the official repository.  not sure on the time frame for that though
[17:03] <forgeaus> cbrunos: well the other way would be to get a rolling release distro lol :)
[17:03] <cbrunos> thanks for the details, xixor and ybit
[17:03] <forgeaus> but kubuntu isn't one of those so either A) wait, or B) find a ppa
[17:04] <cbrunos> forgeaus: no thanks, I already used Arch in the past, and it was not always a pleasant experience
[17:04] <xixor> ybit, cbrunos : I updated to 4.8.3 on the kubuntu ppa.  I haven't had a chance to use it, but I am a bit apprensive now that I think about it..  I hope it is stable
[17:05] <ybit> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.3 implies that packages are moved from unstable ¿or dev branch? to stable branch as they become...stable
[17:05] <forgeaus> cbrunos: I was thinking more along the lines of PCLinuxOS
[17:05] <forgeaus> but yes well arch well I only installed it as a chroot, so it was kinda, not much use to me
[17:05] <ybit> i'm not sure how kubuntu decides to upgrade the kde release.. maybe when all the packages have been tested?
[17:05] <forgeaus> still pacman was an experience
[17:05] <cbrunos> forgeaus: I could take a look at it, but for now, I do not see the benefits in changing distros
[17:06] <forgeaus> cbrunos: neither do I why do you think I'm using Kubuntu? :)
[17:06] <forgeaus> unlike you I don't so much care how recent or not its KDE is so much ...
[17:06] <ybit> i tested ~10 kde distros in the past couple of months and i'm here now
[17:06] <forgeaus> hmm in that case I probably should look at going mint
[17:07] <ybit> i'm just more productive in kubuntu
[17:07] <ybit> fedora's community is awesome
[17:07] <cbrunos> actually, I could live without any update to KDE SC, but since 4.8.3 seems to be mainly bugfixes, it would still be nice to eventually get it
[17:07] <forgeaus> Kubuntu also feels far more integrated than something like PCLinux does
[17:07] <ybit> and a lot of the opensuse guys are great
[17:07] <forgeaus> PCLinux feels like the KDE is less deeply part of the OS,
[17:08] <forgeaus> ugh RPM distros! EEK!
[17:08] <ybit> mandriva has the prettiest start menu
[17:08] <ybit> ...but you can build SimpleWelcome in kubuntu..
[17:08] <forgeaus> I read something that KDE5 is coming at some point
[17:09] <forgeaus> kinda breaks the whole KDE4Win and KDE4Mac though :)
[17:09] <ybit> check out their start menu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-qUtor42Ek
[17:09] <ybit> love the integration of nepomuk in their document view
[17:09] <cbrunos> I barely use the start menu
[17:09] <cbrunos> krunner is pretty nice
[17:10] <ybit> same, but i was looking for something to hand out at booths
[17:10] <cbrunos> hum ok
[17:10] <xixor> ybit: I've been wanting to try opensuse.  I am mainly a kubuntu or debian user myself
[17:10] <ybit> xixor: i like opensuse a lot.. someone needs to fix webpin, they ship it broken
[17:10] <forgeaus> that is not a start MENU thats gnome
[17:10] <forgeaus> ubuntu has that
[17:10] <ybit> and have been for several releases
[17:11] <christian___> #ubuntu
[17:11] <ybit> forgeaus: that is a start menu, that isn't gnome
[17:11] <forgeaus> but its default is unity instead
[17:12] <forgeaus> well then its some minor customization of Gnome then
[17:12] <ybit> lol, no it isn't, this was out way before any of the other implementations :)
[17:13] <forgeaus> ok then gnome drew its inspiration from that then
[17:14] <ybit> i dunno, often everyone is thinking the same thing at the same time...
[17:17] <Ezim> ybit, mandriva was before veery polished kde distro. hope rosa team can make it good again.
[17:18] <Ezim> but then again we always have the best ubuntu based kde distro. kubuntu :).
[17:22] <eurmzx> Is there any KDE Video Player that automatically downloads subtitles, kinda like the VLC plugin?
[18:41] <old_chap> does anyone know how to make network manager to store wi-fi password to kwallet (12.04)
[18:42] <old_chap> 11.10 I did not have any problems but now I have to manually set password in network manager every time after reboot
[18:43] <AtoxHybrid> I've installed precise, but now my screen turns off after 3 seconds of inactivity, anybody knows why?
[18:43] <AtoxHybrid> so I have to keep moving my mouse around for the screen to not turn black
[18:44] <old_chap> and display/power saving options do not help?
[18:44] <AtoxHybrid> nothing there, everything is disabled
[18:45] <old_chap> an no problem before upgrade?
[18:45] <AtoxHybrid> nop
[18:46] <AtoxHybrid> seems I fixed it by turning on "screen energy saving"
[18:46] <old_chap> I have had lot of problems after upgrades with Nvidia hardware
[18:46] <old_chap> usually reinstalling proprietary drivers have helped
[18:46] <AtoxHybrid> amd here
[18:47] <old_chap> have you checked additional drivers from System
[18:48] <old_chap> are you using laptop?
[18:48] <old_chap> have you activated additional laptop power savings?
[19:30] <xixor> Hm.......
[19:30] <xixor> should I buy a system76 laptop?
[19:36] <Asia> hey
[19:36] <Asia> do You know how to makes hibernate work on 12.04
[19:36] <Asia> in my case it only lock screen
[19:36] <semitones_tea> there's a recipe to re-enable it I think
[19:37] <semitones_tea> !hibernate
[19:37] <Asia> yea
[19:37] <Asia> but I had that option in menu
[19:37] <Asia> but it only lock my screen
[19:38] <Asia> in my second laptop it work out of box
[19:38] <xixor> I've never managed to get hibernate to work in any linux
[19:39] <Asia> here I have to run in terminal
[19:39] <Asia> sudo ps-hibernate, but console and admin passwd isnt nice
[19:39] <xixor> I've given up doing anything with linux except trying to run 24/7 at full throttle
[19:39] <Asia> so Its You
[19:40] <Asia> but I thoutgh that kubuntu will be great for netbooks
[19:40] <Asia> but its quite hard
[19:40] <semitones_tea> does this work? http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[19:40] <semitones_tea> remember hibernate was disabled because it didn't work very well :/
[19:45] <Asia> I'll try thanks
[19:55] <Asia> hibernating works back again
[19:55] <Asia> better performance with tux on ice
[19:55] <Asia> :D
[19:55] <Asia> thx
[20:17] <Randomuser999913> Hello. I had firefox installed and added the Icon from Kickoff launcher to the panel. Having removed Firefox using the dpkg command from terminal, I seem to be unable to remove the firefox icon from the panel. If I start it, it claims I'm missing a .desktop file under ~/.local/share/applications named firefox.desktop. I tried to recreate the file, but it refused to remove the icon still (I have googled about this). I tried to reinstall firefox and
[20:17] <Randomuser999913>  run it, but I still cannot remove it from the panel. I click on the litle "X" icon and it shows "Remove Icon" but nothing happens. Help?
[20:18] <Randomuser999913> I'm using KDE 4.8 under Kubuntu 12.04
[20:20] <lordievader> Good evening
[20:20] <Ezim> Randomuser999913, have you tried unluck the panel?
[20:20] <Ezim> thats why you can not remove icons on the panel
[20:21] <Randomuser999913> Yes, I have. if I hadn't I wouldn't have been able to find the "x" to remove the icon.
[20:22] <Randomuser999913> I'm not new to linux, although I'm pretty new to KDE (As in this is the first time I'm using it as a DE). It seems to be a bug. I can reproduce this by removing any desktop file,  and if I reinsert them, I cannot remove the icon still. I did some googling, and it looks like this was a bug that was fixed a while back, although apparently it wasn't.
[20:22] <Ezim> Randomuser999913, can you take screenshot and show us?
[20:22] <Randomuser999913> What file do I have to manually edit, or is there some other way?
[20:23] <Ezim> Randomuser999913, are you using kde 4.8.2 or 4.8.3 from the ppa?
[20:23] <Randomuser999913> 4.8.3 from the PPA. I used 4.8.2 but upgraded to see if that bug would be fixed. It isn't :x
[20:24] <Ezim> I am running 4.8.2 with no such problem
[20:24] <Randomuser999913> http://osdir.com/ml/plasma-bugs/2011-12/msg02383.html
[20:25] <Randomuser999913> I'm not the only one that has had this experience, but AFAIK, it had been fixed.
[20:25] <Ezim> Randomuser999913, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469243
[20:26] <Ezim> you can try zoels answer
[20:26] <Randomuser999913> Ok, will try now
[20:28] <Ezim> Randomuser999913, or if you wanted. add a new standard panel.
[20:29] <Ezim> thats the easiest way
[20:32] <Randomuser999913> Well, I did it and had a fresh reboot.I now got a standard kde desktop.
[20:37] <Ezim> Randomuser999913, good. now add things you like :).
[20:37] <Randomuser999913> Yes, thank you. I hope it does not reproduce
[20:41] <Ezim> Randomuser999913, np.
[21:11] <kavurt> it looks like i need help
[21:11] <kavurt> i'm trying to update my kubuntu
[21:11] <kavurt> i'm getting an error:
[21:12] <kavurt> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:12] <kavurt> libqt4-designer:i386
[21:12] <EvilResistance> !paste | kavurt
[21:13] <EvilResistance> kavurt:  does it give you any additional details?
[21:13] <EvilResistance> it should somewhere in there
[21:14] <kavurt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/972250/
[21:14] <kavurt> this is what i'm getting
[21:14] <kavurt> i tried apt-get -f install
[21:14] <kavurt> apt-get clean
[21:15] <kavurt> and couldn't find anything online
[21:45] <nook> Hi, i have some Trouble with Wine(PlayOLinx) on 12.04. every program i try to start crash with  //translated error message// "internal Error - invalide parameter"  orginal Germen Error MSG: "Interner Fehler - ungültige Parameter empfangen"
[21:46] <nook> I allrady reinstalled my system but wine running still in the same error :-( Can somewon help me to find a fixx for this? :-)
[21:46] <LuizAngioletti> Folks, does any one know where can I find the 'krunner' source code? Is it in a different set as kdebase-workspace on launchpad?
[21:56] <LuizAngioletti> nobody?
[22:37] <sizz> I have a dual monitor setup using the nvidia-settings. The problem is that many games want to only run stretched across both screens. Anyone know how to get them to run on a single monitor?
[22:58] <nook> sizz: try to set the duals screen setting ober the KDE options
[22:58] <nook> works for me
[23:03] <sizz> settings -> display & monitor -> multiple monitors. currently all five boxes are checked. do i uncheck one of them?
[23:25] <artao> hello ... my LAN cable accidentally came unplugged, unbeknownst to me .. I went to browse new widgets and (obviously) it failed to load the list .. .. .. NOW however, tho the LAN is indeed operational again, I can't get the online widget list to refresh ... ... is there a way to force it to refresh?
[23:30] <xixor> k00bn00bt00
[23:50] <goddard> how can i use the image viewer to set my desktop image/
[23:52] <Lee2010> Does anyone know why the version of clementine in the repos doesn't support spotify?
[23:53] <Resistance> Lee2010:  that'd be a question to ask the maintainers of that program i think
[23:53] <Resistance> perhaps they removed the support from the source code?
[23:56] <Lee2010> I wonder why they would do that...
[23:57] <Resistance> i'm not one of the devs, and i dont know whether it was removed or not, you'd have to check with their dev(s) or file a bug against it if you think it should have support
[23:57] <Resistance> and if you file a bug, and they removed that support, then they'll mark it as won't fix
[23:57] <Lee2010> Where would I file a bug report?
[23:59] <Resistance> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clementine/+filebug  <-- IF the bug is against the clementine package