[00:40] <stlsaint> bioterror: well got pfsense installed now
[02:14] <b_dub> quick question, without too much involved, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on another computer here...  actually just now got it to load up.... and it's asking if i want to upgrade to 12.04...  i haven't installed anything else on it yet...  in fact it was a mutt a cousin tossed my way and is just now back in working order...  i don't really have any plans for it other than trying to get some cool compiz graphics going on it (my current is i
[02:29] <Unit193> You got cut off at "(my current is "
[02:30] <Unit193> But please do not crosspost.
[02:34] <b_dub>   i don't really have any plans for it other than trying to get some cool compiz graphics going on it (my current is intel embed 845G set   UGH)...  should i do the upgrade?  haven't really heard anything of it as of yet
[02:35] <b_dub> not sure what crosspost means...  new to this
[02:36] <Unit193> That'd be asking your question here, and at the same time another channel ( #ubuntu-beginners ).  I don't know how well 12.04 works on your chipset, but I found it to work for me.
[02:36] <Unit193> http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/search/label/eyecandy that has a few good posts on making it look shiny.
[02:37] <b_dub> so if i ask a question here, then wait ten minutes and don't get a response, i can't repost it in another room?
[02:38] <Unit193> Heh, nevermind, didn't see how much of a time difference. :P
[02:38] <b_dub> are these rooms regulated like forums?
[02:39] <EvilResistance> b_dub:  in a sense, they're moderated
[02:39] <Unit193> I'm not a forums person, but there are people "watching over" them.  Does that post help any though?
[02:41] <b_dub> dunno...  like i said, im new to the whole chat thing...  i know when you sign up for a forum there are a set of rules that they give to you, and a hierarchy, and blah blah more rules....  but I didnt really see anything like that logging in here....  just curious
[02:42] <Unit193> Ah, yeah.  The ones for this are http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[02:46] <Celltech> How can I auto-mount my slave drive so I don't have to keep using a password?
[02:52] <Unit193> !fstab
[02:52] <Unit193> But I find that clicking on it in PCmanFM works.
[02:52] <Unit193> But, but, but..... Awww..
[03:04] <b_dub> unit193:  thanks...
[03:11] <JohnDoe_71Rus> mount disks has unmount icons in pcmanfm, mount shares doe's not have
[03:16] <Unit193> Slave drive would be a secondary hard drive.
[03:18] <Unit193> b_dub: Anytime.
[03:31] <lubuntu1986> i see upgrade lubuntu to 12.04 LTS  so i click upgrade it tells me stuff then i hit ok, it ask me for admin password i typed it then when i press OK,  nothing... it just disappear, i repeat the step many times: end result is the same NOTHING.
[03:32] <lubuntu1986> i do this from the Update Manager application,  what is the command to upgrade to 12.04 LTS
[03:32] <lubuntu1986> oh when i upgrae the stuff it shows a window that im d/l  2 files, after i finish d/l  it just disappear, the window, then nothing
[03:36] <Unit193> sudo do-release-upgrade  from the terminal.
[03:41] <lubuntu1986> hey Unit193, i have 2 terminal, i think its from upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10   its UXTerm and Xterm  which one should i use, or it doesnt matter?
[03:41] <Unit193> Nope.
[03:42] <Unit193> Should also have "lxterminal" though.
[03:43] <lubuntu1986> ya the terminal command thing work, im seeing something on the terminal, like stuff, brb.
[03:43] <lubuntu1986> thnx
[03:43] <lubuntu1986> yea lxterminal + those two
[04:21] <Gibarian> Is there a way to set up VLC in Lubuntu for autoplay (DVD's)?
[08:32] <hosoka> hello all
[08:33] <hosoka> I am not able to play avi with gnome mplayer
[08:33] <hosoka> it just opens the file and then stops.
[10:07] <heikki_> hi all
[12:00] <ilija> hay everybody how to install ubuntu one in lubuntu
[12:00] <ilija> thanks
[12:08] <bioterror> probably just install it from the synaptics for example
[12:08] <bioterror> !ubuntuone
[12:08] <gordonjcp> hahaha
[12:09] <gordonjcp> if you want a really ingenious new way to screw up your system, try kexecing memtest86
[12:24] <silverlion> who can help me with my still existing problem of a crashing chromium while trying to see flash streams or videos ?
[12:37] <gordonjcp> silverlion: replace chromium with firefox
[12:37] <gordonjcp> it's just as quick, takes a little more memory, and won't piss you off
[12:38] <KM0201> why?.. firefox sucks compared chrome.
[12:38] <KM0201> i never have probs w/ chromium.
[12:38] <KM0201> and it is markedly quicker than firefox
[12:38] <silverlion> gordonjcp: the problem is the same with firefox :/
[12:38] <KM0201> what kind of videos are you trying to watch?
[12:39] <KM0201> silverlion: do you have a link?
[12:39] <silverlion> KM0201: like i said flash videos of german tv stations
[12:41] <silverlion> KM0201: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/913420/Gefaehrliche-Fotos?bc=svp;sv2 for starters
[12:41] <KM0201> silverlion: it works fine for me
[12:42] <KM0201> do you have lubuntu-restricted-extras isntalled?
[12:42] <KM0201> it's just flash, i see no reason you shouldn't be able to play it
[12:43] <silverlion> KM0201: affirmative already installed that package
[12:43] <KM0201> lubuntu-restricted-addons
[12:43] <KM0201> ?
[12:43] <silverlion> stand by checking now
[12:44] <silverlion> wowwowowwowowo "Ubuntu 12.04 has an internal error" *confused*
[12:45] <silverlion> Is my machine going blow up itself?
[12:45] <KM0201> hmm
[12:45] <KM0201> does it give any details?
[12:45] <iceroot> silverlion: what is producing that message?
[12:46] <silverlion> iceroot: from what i am able to understand it's the mplayer that produced that problem
[12:46] <silverlion> error report sent to help fixing this problem
[12:46] <KM0201> silverlion: why are you opening mplayer?.. this is flash video, i don't think mplayer supports that
[12:47] <silverlion> KM0201: because chromium has activated mplayer for everything (quick time format etc.)
[12:47] <iceroot> KM0201: there is a browser mplayer plugin for flash
[12:47] <KM0201> hmm,
[12:47] <KM0201> that makes no sense
[12:47] <KM0201> silverlion: does youtube work?
[12:47] <silverlion> KM0201: lubuntu-restricted-addons are installed
[12:48] <silverlion> KM0201: last time i checked it worked
[12:49] <silverlion> KM0201: youtube is working without any problems ... just confirmed
[12:49] <KM0201> hmm
[12:50] <KM0201> silverlion: and when you go to that site, it tries to open mplayer, as opposed to flash, right?
[12:51] <silverlion> KM0201: when i go to that site i linked you the site doesnt even load fully ... gives right back the message: "The following plugin seems to have crashed: shockwave flash"
[12:52] <KM0201> silverlion: what version of flash?  in chrome   about:plugins in the URL bar
[12:53] <silverlion> KM0201: Flash - Version: 11.2 r202 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[12:53] <gordonjcp> silverlion: 32- or 64-bit?
[12:53] <KM0201> i gues that could be a difference i'm using 64bit.
[12:54] <silverlion> gordonjcp: i386
[12:55] <KM0201> hmm, i seriously doubt that is the issue.
[12:56] <gordonjcp> well, I found flash to be pretty crashy on x86_64
[12:56] <KM0201> gordonjcp: never causes me a problem
[12:59] <silverlion> no suggestions?
[12:59] <KM0201> silverlion: and you're using 12.04, right?
[13:00] <silverlion> KM0201: lubuntu 12.04 yeah
[13:02] <KM0201> that just defies logic
[13:02] <KM0201> cuz i've not installed any other multimedia stuff
[13:03] <silverlion> KM0201: what do you mean?
[13:03] <KM0201> silverlion: that it works fine for me, and doesn't for you.
[13:06] <silverlion> KM0201: no offense but that doesnt help me much :D
[13:06] <KM0201> silverlion: well no kidding.. thats my point, i'm trying to figure out why its working fine for me, and not working for you.. it doesn't make sense (thus, it's not any help to either of us)
[13:06] <KM0201> the only difference, is i'm usign 64bit, vs you using 32bit
[13:06] <KM0201> but.. surely thats not it.
[13:26] <silverlion> no other ideas?
[13:27] <MrChrisDruif> I seem to be missing a part of the scrollback, what seems to be the issue silverlion ?
[13:28] <silverlion> MrChrisDruif: (14:24:49) silverlion: who can help me with my still existing problem of a crashing chromium while trying to see flash streams or videos ?
[13:29] <MrChrisDruif> flash streams or also with local videos?
[13:33] <silverlion> MrChrisDruif: flash streams and pages that use flash
[13:33] <MrChrisDruif> All packages are up to date I guess? (We're talking about 12.04 I guess?)
[13:34] <silverlion> affirmate to both :D
[13:34] <silverlion> did the last update before shift last night
[13:34] <silverlion> and installed Lubuntu 12.04
[13:38] <MrChrisDruif> I've seen in the scrollback that you have lubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[13:38] <silverlion> MrChrisDruif: any other info needed? i am about get offline for a RL-Appointment
[13:39] <silverlion> MrChrisDruif: affirmative
[13:39] <MrChrisDruif> Meh, beats me
[13:39] <silverlion> the message i always get: The following plugin has crashed: shockwave flash
[13:41] <silverlion> MrChrisDruif: do i take it right that you too have no idea?
[13:43] <MrChrisDruif> Yup
[13:43] <silverlion> *sigh* ok then
[13:43] <silverlion> my appointment waits ;)
[14:13] <neure> there is no menu bar in (u)xterm?
[14:13] <neure> i want to make the font size bigger
[14:14] <Rullakee1ab> when i click Lxkeymap nothing happens?
[14:14] <Rullakee1ab> fresh install
[14:15] <bioterror> moro neure
[14:15] <neure> moro
[14:15] <bioterror> neure, .Xdefaults ;)
[14:15] <neure> yes but im just confirming: there is no menu?
[14:16] <bioterror> xterm has never had menus?
[14:16] <bioterror> lxterminal has
[14:16] <neure> so im running lubuntu 12.04 in virtualbox
[14:16] <neure> do i need to manually install guest additions?
[14:16] <bioterror> yes
[14:18] <bioterror> urxvt*font:             xft:Terminus:pixelsize=14
[14:18] <bioterror> that kind of line to .Xdefaults
[14:18] <neure> lxterminal works for me
[14:18] <bioterror> ofcourse, replace urxvt with the terminal you like
[14:20] <neure> http://paste.ofcode.org/ZE6bbzKTR8CZ5hZnkXc8BB
[14:20] <neure> what did i do wrong?
[14:27] <neure> oh
[14:27] <neure> but it says i already have something installed
[14:29] <a_b0y> so how to you set up extended display?
[15:39] <toscho> hi, i want to change the keyboard behaviour: 1. ctrl-alt-bksp for terminate
[15:40] <bioterror> Thu12:15*<bioterror> setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[15:40] <toscho> yes, but i want it persistent
[15:41] <toscho> but thanks by the way. last time I couldn't because I was off spontaneously
[15:41] <bioterror> add it to your xorg.conf, as you had it
[15:42] <toscho> but it doesn't work
[15:43] <toscho> that xorg.conf is probably a leftover from some previous version, which isn't used anymore by the system (or so I would guess)
[15:43] <bioterror> remove it then?
[15:43] <bioterror> or name it as .bak
[15:44] <toscho> and then?
[15:45] <bioterror> terminate your X and see if you get evdev configs
[15:45] <toscho> ok
[15:46] <toscho> is there a command which only terminates X?
[15:46] <bioterror> Sun18:40 <bioterror> Thu12:15*<bioterror> setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[15:46] <toscho> not the option, a command for the commandline
[15:46] <toscho> I don't want to reboot completely
[15:47] <bioterror> my /etc/inittab says: ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
[15:48] <bioterror> as far as I know, terminate is completely another thing
[15:48] <toscho> ok, restarted X, no xorg.conf.d/
[15:49] <toscho> is there a way to see, what files X has actually read out when started? some log?
[15:49] <valdur55> i restart window manager , lxdm , lightm , kdm ....
[15:50] <toscho> may it be, that the xkb-options are overloaded by xmodmap (which is started by a personal startup script)?
[15:51] <valdur55> I restart X and window manager with: sudo service lightdm restart
[15:54] <dove_g> how to install vpn on latest Lubuntu, without Internet connection (I need vpn to connect to the internet)
[15:55] <valdur55> oh.. you have already vpn installed
[15:55] <valdur55> dove_g, you need configure your vpn :)
[15:55] <valdur55> oh damn... vpn modules aren't installed :(
[15:57] <dove_g> yep
[15:58] <dove_g> can i get it soemhow on the stick and then install via USB?
[15:58] <bioterror> dpkg -i foo.deb
[15:59] <dove_g> where to get them?
[15:59] <dove_g> and what do I need ?
[16:02] <theluckymike> hi, I'm back with one problem whitch dissapeard few days ago, but now is back - when I boot to my lubuntu, booting just stops when loading pcmia socket.. any ideas?
[16:02] <a_b0y> format and reinstall?
[16:02] <a_b0y> or its probably a virus
[16:03] <theluckymike> I had the same thing after 1st 5 times of installing it
[16:03] <a_b0y> taht sucks
[16:03] <theluckymike> i was installing it from windows desktop installer, then I ripped a CD and it had the same, but one moment it started to boot in normaly
[16:05] <a_b0y> i fixed my ubuntu problems by just installing windows
[16:06] <a_b0y> lubuntu is still fun to have tho
[16:06] <theluckymike> I got windows XP home edition oficialy on this laptop and I kinda don't like it
[16:07] <a_b0y> what's wrong with it
[16:07] <theluckymike> whats wrong with choise for lubuntu?
[16:07] <theluckymike> just few things to fix, after that everything is perfect
[16:08] <a_b0y> have you tried windows 7?
[16:09] <a_b0y> i have win7 running fine on a netbook on dual boost with lubuntu
[16:09] <a_b0y> boot*
[16:10] <theluckymike> my laptop is not kinda in mood for that
[16:10] <theluckymike> graphics card: nVidia GeForce4 420 Go 32M (1280x800x32bit 59Hz)
[16:10] <a_b0y> i am interested with the new windows 8 coming out by the end of the year
[16:10] <theluckymike> i'm not :D
[16:10] <a_b0y> but i think its mostly updated for touch screens
[16:11] <a_b0y> i know a place where you want get win 7 if you want
[16:11] <dove_g> where to download network-manager-openvpn, network-manager-ptpt and pptp-linux?
[16:11] <a_b0y> just let me know
[16:12] <a_b0y> dove_g did you try the Lubuntu software center?
[16:12] <dove_g> huh
[16:12] <dove_g> i need VPN connection for Lubuntu, Lubuntu doesnt support it
[16:12] <a_b0y> it is in the system tools menu
[16:12] <dove_g> need VPN to get internet
[16:12] <dove_g> hwo to get it without internet connection
[16:13] <a_b0y> dove_g did you try to connect to the internet?
[16:13] <dove_g> :)
[16:14] <a_b0y> is it wireless or wired connection?
[16:14] <dove_g> it is VPN connection
[16:14] <MrChrisDruif> How are you connected right now? ;-)
[16:14] <dove_g> Lubuntu doesnt support it
[16:14] <dove_g> other computer
[16:15] <a_b0y> i'm a noob, but i think it should automatically find your VPN?
[16:15] <a_b0y> did you click on the network icon on the bottom right?
[16:16] <dove_g> Lubuntu doesnt support it
[16:16] <a_b0y> click on the icon, then go to the VPN Connections and Configure VPN
[16:16] <dove_g> you must install it
[16:16] <a_b0y> oh
[16:16] <MrChrisDruif> I can't remember what network-manager Lubuntu ships with
[16:16] <dove_g> if you must to connect via VPN isn't that smart move not to include in Lubuntu, right :)
[16:17] <MrChrisDruif> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Use_apt-offline
[16:17] <MrChrisDruif> There you go
[16:17] <dove_g> tnx
[16:18] <dove_g> hm
[16:18] <dove_g> doesnt help too much
[16:18] <MrChrisDruif> Your on Windows? <_<"
[16:19] <a_b0y> what if you just copy the files on USB and transfer it to the other computer?
[16:19] <MrChrisDruif> dove_g; 12.04?
[16:20] <a_b0y> but you should probably ignore what i'm saying because i really don't know what i'm talking about lol
[16:22] <a_b0y> dove_g if you have an older version go to Synaptic Package Manager and search for those files you are looking for to install
[16:23] <MrChrisDruif> dove_g; still here? What version are you running?
[16:25] <a_b0y> sudo apt-get install openvpn
[16:26] <a_b0y> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[16:26] <a_b0y> don't ask me about it lol
[16:27] <dove_g> i knwo what do i need
[16:27] <dove_g> don0t find how to get it
[16:27] <MrChrisDruif> What version are you running dove_g ? 12.04?
[16:28] <dove_g> yes
[16:28] <dove_g> i think i need netowrk-manager-openvpn, netowrk-manager-pptp and linux-pptp
[16:29] <a_b0y> dove_g here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[16:29] <a_b0y> but it says this "Ubuntu 10.04 comes preinstalled with VPN support."
[16:29] <dove_g> then i think that PPTP (Microsoft VPN)sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp is enough
[16:30] <dove_g> yep, Lubuntu 12.04 doesnt
[16:30] <a_b0y> oh
[16:33] <silverlion> re but still arguing with my computer :/
[16:36] <MrChrisDruif> dove_g; http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/network-manager-openvpn http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/network-manager-pptp http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/pptp-linux
[16:36] <silverlion> MrChrisDruif: even the internet seems to have no solution
[16:37] <silverlion> for my particular problem
[16:43] <Gibarian> What is your problem silverlion?
[16:46] <dove_g> tnx MrChirsDruif
[16:47] <silverlion> Gibarian my flash (or shockwave flash) player keeps crashing while streaming videos
[16:48] <dove_g> i hope that this will not dependices for some librieries
[16:48] <dove_g> without internet ;(
[16:51] <MrChrisDruif> dove_g; first also check if http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-desktop depends OR recommends the packages needed by those packages, if not, download those as well
[16:51] <Gibarian> There was a recent update, perhaps that's the reason... What browsers have you used to test it?
[16:52] <silverlion> Gibarian: i tested chromium and FF
[16:53] <MrChrisDruif> silverlion; you *could* also try Chrome, which has flash packaged along with it
[16:56] <Gibarian> I'm having problems with shockwave flash myself, but not frequent
[16:56] <Gibarian> I had to reboot once, after the flash crashed
[17:01] <input> hi i wont have  zombies process in my lubuntu 12.04 , how can i do it?  ps -A -ostat,ppid,pid,cmd | grep -e '^[Zz]' Z     2030  2287 [hp-upgrade] <defunct> Z     7589  7740 [lxterminal] <defunct>
[17:02] <Gibarian> Is it possible to run both Chrome and Chromium in Lubuntu MrChrisDruif?
[17:03] <input> i have in lubuntu both , chrome and chromium
[17:03] <input> but i have 2 zombies process and i dont know as remove it
[17:04] <Gibarian> Try then with Chrome silverlion, as MrChrisDruif suggested
[17:04] <MrChrisDruif> Gibarian; yes you can
[17:04] <EvilResistance> input:  you want to kill the zombie processes?
[17:05] <input> i want remove the software with zombies
[17:05] <input> i want to remove...
[17:06] <input> i wont have  zombies process in my lubuntu 12.04 , how can i do it?  ps -A -ostat,ppid,pid,cmd | grep -e '^[Zz]' Z     2030  2287 [hp-upgrade] <defunct> Z     7589  7740 [lxterminal] <defunct>
[17:09] <input> gibarian is gibarian or dr Gibaria= movie solaris???
[17:14] <input> lubuntu has many bugs , my wifi dont work and always my os is reporting bugs to the team lubuntu
[17:15] <input> i hope of xubuntu better working than lubuntu
[17:17] <theluckymike> still cant find answer, please help a little - can't boot to my system - it stops when loading pcmia_socket ;/
[17:19] <input> lubuntu is much more light than xubuntu or is a little more light??
[17:20] <input> ---or is a bit more little?
[17:21] <MrChrisDruif> input; only way to find out is by trying. We* believe ours is less resource hungry, but we are biased
[17:21] <Gibarian> Lubuntu is lighter, but that depends on what apps you have running into it
[17:21] <input> ---or is a bit more light?
[17:21] <Gibarian> I've run both Lubuntu, and Xubuntu
[17:21] <Gibarian> and Lubuntu is less resource hungry
[17:23] <Gibarian> And yes, Lubuntu have many bugs, but so Xubuntu, Ubuntu, and practically everything OS made by men...
[17:23] <input> this lubuntu 12.04 release dont work fine in my machine because has many bugs and zombies and errors
[17:23] <Gibarian> is Gibarian from Dr. Gibarian from Solaris, yes
[17:23] <Gibarian> big Stanislav Lem fan
[17:24] <Gibarian> I always wait two weeks before implement major upgrades, this one is too fresh
[17:24] <input> ok
[17:24] <Gibarian> I will advise you to try 11.10, to check if that one works for you
[17:25] <MrChrisDruif> theluckymike; https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-troubleshooting.html and scroll down to System Freeze... (or Ctrl+F "pcmcia")
[17:25] <Gibarian> and wait a few weeks while the bugs are worked
[17:26] <MrChrisDruif> and subsequently: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/doc/PCMCIA-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.12
[17:26] <theluckymike> wow MrChrisDruif thx
[17:26] <MrChrisDruif> No prob theluckymike
[17:26] <MrChrisDruif> Feeling a little bit more lucky now?
[17:26] <MrChrisDruif> (or atleast less neglected?)
[17:27] <theluckymike> o yea
[17:27] <theluckymike> but after I boot in - I should configure those pcmia for not repeating this error on boot? ( idk what pcmia is )
[17:28] <MrChrisDruif> theluckymike; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia
[17:28] <MrChrisDruif> And you can add that "exception" more permanently to grub
[17:29] <theluckymike> ahh pff, havent use that card never ;D
[17:29] <Gibarian> By the way, does anybody know if is possible to enable autoplay in VLC, in Lubuntu?
[17:29] <theluckymike> i'm not sure it works, cus in windows when I tried to use it system crashed ;D
[17:29] <MrChrisDruif> Gibarian; is it possible in Ubuntu?
[17:29] <theluckymike> thx MrChrisDruif again :D
[17:29] <Gibarian> yes, I know, but I'm in Lubuntu
[17:30] <MrChrisDruif> Then it should also be able in Lubuntu afaik
[17:31]  * MrChrisDruif doesn't use Lubuntu AND/OR VLC
[17:31] <Gibarian> Yes, it should be able, but how?
[17:31] <MrChrisDruif> Same steps as in Ubuntu?
[17:31] <Gibarian> Why? Lubuntu and VLC have problems?
[17:31] <Gibarian> Nope
[17:31] <input> ok i need know if xubuntu 12.04 could be more stable and with less errors than lubuntu now, or not?
[17:32] <MrChrisDruif> Nope, my machine is powerful enough for something a little more "flashy" so I run GNOME Shell and I don't like VLC ^_^
[17:32] <Gibarian> input, try to download the live cd from Xubuntu 12.04
[17:32] <MrChrisDruif> input; try #xubuntu
[17:32] <Gibarian> and try it in your machine
[17:32] <Gibarian> try it first, don't install it without trying it
[17:33] <Gibarian> I love VLC, but I use SMPlayer as well
[17:33] <input> ok thank you , because i havent much faith in lubuntu 12.04 now
[17:34] <Gibarian> well, xubuntu have more options, but imo is more resource hungry...
[17:35] <Gibarian> in the end is your choice man... This is linux, not windows
[17:35] <MrChrisDruif> Gibarian; shall we talk about preferences and other non-support stuff over at #lubuntu-offtopic ?
[17:36] <Gibarian> ok, no problem MrChrisDruif
[17:36] <Gibarian> sorry
[17:37] <MrChrisDruif> No prob, prolly didn't think about it ^_^
[17:38] <input> gibarian ok the better option in ubuntu is lubuntu or xubuntu without Unity and for me better xubuntu now
[17:40] <input> see you later
[17:42] <Gibarian> see ya input
[17:45] <theluckymike> woot
[17:45] <theluckymike> :D
[17:45] <theluckymike> xchat is much nicer that mirc ( huh, remember like 6 years ago I was saying todaly different :D )
[17:46] <bioterror> AmIRC
[17:46] <MrChrisDruif> theluckymike; no, I don't remember. I've been on IRC for only 2 / 2.5 years now
[17:50] <theluckymike> if I want to put hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false by default in boot, I have to add in /boot/grub/grub.conf ?
[17:52] <MrChrisDruif> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_boot_options_Permanently_for_an_Existing_Installation where I'd suggest the first for cleaner system and the second for ease of use
[17:52] <MrChrisDruif> You can always remove the software again after changes have been made
[19:33] <allgood38> Anyone around?
[19:36] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe?
[19:36] <MrChrisDruif> !ask | allgood38
[19:39] <allgood38> Ah I see, my mistake. I was wondering if anyone has choosen Lubuntu as there distro of choice for a more powerful computer, however I'm beginning to think that this IRC channel is more for support than discussion, I'
[19:39] <allgood38> Should I checkou the lubuntu-offtopic channel instead?
[19:41] <MrChrisDruif> allgood38; there are people who have done it, but if you want a longer discussion about it, then yeah probably better off in -offtopic
[19:41] <Unit193> The answer is that some have.
[19:42] <pAt_> allgood38: I use it on a dual core 2x 2.8 Ghz with 4 Gb ram
[19:44] <allgood38> pAt_: okay cool, definitely more than the de needs
[19:44] <allgood38> I've switched to Lubuntu simply for the sake of a simple desktop environment
[19:44] <pAt_> yeah, I just love its minimalism, no matter what system
[19:44] <allgood38> Since I have some extra horsepower, I added a composite manager though
[19:45] <pAt_> I use Cairo for this
[19:45] <allgood38> Cairo is a graphics library right?
[19:45] <Unit193> Check out http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/search/label/eyecandy
[19:46] <pAt_> its a composit manager
[19:47] <allgood38> When you installed it, did you need to add a .desktop file to the ~/.config/autostart directory?
[19:48] <pAt_> nope
[19:48] <allgood38> Unit193: Thats pretty cool, thanks, I'll check it out
[20:21] <neure> hi
[20:22] <neure> is there some lightweight alternative to kdevelop?
[20:22] <neure> i would need to download a whopping 376MB to get kdevelop :(
[20:22] <MrChrisDruif> kdevelop?
[20:22] <neure> IDE
[20:22] <gordonjcp> neure: geany?
[20:22] <gordonjcp> vim?
[20:22] <MrChrisDruif> leafpad?
[20:22] <neure> geany hmm
[20:22] <MrChrisDruif> ;-)
[20:23] <neure> ok geany is only about 8 MB
[20:23] <neure> thats a bit better
[20:23] <gordonjcp> it's an editor rather than an IDE
[20:23] <neure> does it support debugging with gdb?
[20:23] <gordonjcp> I've started using it because xfce is based on gtk2 and gedit drops its guts over the lack of theme
[20:23] <gordonjcp> no idea
[20:24] <gordonjcp> I just use gdb from the command-line
[20:25] <neure> mm
[20:25] <neure> lets check out codeblocks
[20:26] <neure> beats me why it depends on gstreamer
[21:05] <fanthomas> hi,  how can I reset the sources list? how can I choose some official mirror in command line?
[21:16] <MrChrisDruif> fanthomas; reset resources list/
[21:16] <MrChrisDruif> ?
[21:17] <fanthomas> I was installing alternate from other computer through ethernet
[21:17] <MrChrisDruif> You installed with the Alternate Installer? That's all?
[21:18] <fanthomas> and I have now 192.168.... servers in sources.list
[21:18] <fanthomas> because I was doing it through PXE from other computer
[21:19] <fanthomas> so I had a mirror of CD on the other machine in apache
[21:19]  * MrChrisDruif has no experience with that..
[21:19] <fanthomas> but now I want to update and install from the internet
[21:19] <MrChrisDruif> I can give you my /etc/apt/sources.list file if you want
[21:19] <fanthomas> that would be great
[21:20] <MrChrisDruif> I'll remove my ppa's from them, wait a few minutes
[21:21] <MrChrisDruif> You don't mind using the nl servers, do you?
[21:21] <EvilResistance> MrChrisDruif:  you can put PPA entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/[filename]
[21:21] <EvilResistance> just for future reference ;)
[21:21] <EvilResistance> (it's how add-apt-repository does it)
[21:21] <MrChrisDruif> EvilResistance; Ow, then I don't need to do anything on that file ^_^
[21:21] <Resistance> MrChrisDruif:  at least, recent add-apt-repository does it ithat way
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> fanthomas; http://paste.ubuntu.com/972273/
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> I've not manually added sources, so it *should* be good
[21:22] <Resistance> (so if I did this: add-apt-repository ppa:trekcaptainusa-tw/backports-staging, it'd create its own file first, then apt-get update auto-sources sources.list.d for additional items)
[21:22] <Resistance> (also, don't use that PPA)
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe ^_^
[21:23] <Resistance> (its littered with all my backport testings :P)
[21:24] <fanthomas> MrChrisDruif: thank you
[21:25] <MrChrisDruif> No prob fanthomas
[21:26] <neure> can copy file to clipboard somehow?
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> What file/what clipboard?
[21:28] <fanthomas> btw. during instalation there was a list of mirrors where a could select one or add my http server manualy.. I'm just wondering if that list can be somehow invoked from command line again
[21:32] <neure> X clipboard
[21:32] <neure> just a text file
[21:38] <fanthomas> MrChrisDruif: is the lubuntu sources.list exactly the same as in ubuntu?
[21:39] <MrChrisDruif> I guess, not 100% sure but it should be. Same repos, that I know for sure
[21:39] <MrChrisDruif> So sources.list should be the same as well
[21:39] <Resistance> fanthomas:  they use the same repos
[21:39] <Resistance> the links will be the same regardless
[21:39]  * Resistance knows this is the case for Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Ubuntu
[21:40] <Resistance> likely to be the case for Lubuntu
[21:41] <fanthomas> ok, thats good... thanx
[22:17] <HoNgOuRu> hi, how can I add 2 commands in one line in the exec inside an .desktop file ? I want it to sleep for five and then run the application (i need this to fix conky at startup)
[22:18] <wxl> HoNgOuRu: not that i've tried this but i can't imagine why && wouldn't couple them
[22:19] <HoNgOuRu> that doesn't work
[22:19] <MrChrisDruif> Can't you add that sleep to the conky-file?
[22:19] <HoNgOuRu> don't know
[22:19] <MrChrisDruif> Might be worth the try
[22:19] <wxl> what about ";"?
[22:19] <HoNgOuRu> that will do the job but I also want to know the sleeep line
[22:20] <HoNgOuRu> I tried ;
[22:20] <HoNgOuRu> doesn't either
[22:20] <wxl> why don't you make a script and exec the script
[22:20] <HoNgOuRu> wxl that will work for sure
[22:20] <HoNgOuRu> but I also want to know the .desktop stuff
[22:20] <wxl> add a comment :D
[22:28] <logankemp> sup
[22:28] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm, Y HI LEAVE? I've got link for him: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1763889
[22:28] <logankemp> whats this channel about?
[22:29] <MrChrisDruif> Support for Lubuntu
[22:29] <MrChrisDruif> See also /topic
[22:29] <logankemp> finally
[22:29] <logankemp> i couldnt find it
[22:29] <logankemp> lol
[22:29] <MrChrisDruif> Finally? We've been here for years! ;-)
[22:33] <logankemp> i want help with ubuntu... see i use a colemak keyboard layout and i want a learning tool. Anyone know a good one?
[22:33] <logankemp> i cant find one worth using
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> logankemp; I don't know which you've already tried
[23:28] <spiritech> i may be doing a re-install soon and i would like to save my compiz settings to a file so i can load them back up afterwards.
[23:29] <spiritech> can anyone tell me how to do this.
[23:29] <spiritech> ?
[23:30] <AxD09> I don't use copiz, but I assume the configuration is stored in the .config folder in your home directory.
[23:31] <spiritech> well i have looked at the files there. and the files are pretty much empty.
[23:32] <spiritech> i should imagine a configuration file would be quite extensive.
[23:33] <spiritech> maybe its in /usr/share somewhere. though i shouldnt think so.
[23:33] <AxD09> You'd have to have root access to store files outside your home dir
[23:59] <stlsaint> bioterror: you round?