[04:26] <jokerdino> asd
[04:26] <jokerdino> s
[04:28] <jokerdino> oops sorry about that.
[06:03] <Fudge> bring on june 7 :)
[06:03] <jokerdino> a month away :/
[06:08] <Fudge> yeah sux hey loL
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:03] <Sidewinder> Mornin' BluesKaj :)
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hi Sidewinder :)
[14:09] <_3vi1_> Odd.  My e1000e doesn't seem to be working with the 3.4 kernel.  Searching launchpad bugs, I see people complaining of similar problems, but with the 3.2 kernels - where I'm working fine.
[16:26] <FernandoMiguel> anyone using CIFS on FSTAB?
[16:26] <FernandoMiguel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/995535
[16:27]  * FernandoMiguel kicks the bot
[16:29] <Daekdroom> ubottu is not even here.
[16:34] <FernandoMiguel> Daekdroom: I guess I have to kick it further :)
[16:35] <Bluefoxicy> seriously two things come to mind now
[16:35] <Bluefoxicy> 1)  why can't Ubuntu redistribute the VirtualBox extension that adds USB 2.0?
[16:36] <Bluefoxicy> 2)  Why can't SOMEBODY write an open source patch that adds USB 2.0 anyway, since most of the code base is GPL?!
[16:36] <FernandoMiguel> Bluefoxicy: ask Oracle
[16:36] <Bluefoxicy> FernandoMiguel:  we redistribute flash ... kind of.
[16:36] <FernandoMiguel> Bluefoxicy: the Oracle build has it
[16:37] <BluesKaj> I'm trying how to rename my external drive ..it shows as external after renaming it with: sudo e2label /dev/sdf1 External , but when I drag it to the desktop , icon view shows the same series of letters and numbers that I was trying to rename in the fist place
[16:37] <Bluefoxicy> FernandoMiguel:  my concern is that on upgrade virtualbox might suddenly break
[16:37] <Bluefoxicy> I'm not sure if it's good at removing its extensions
[16:38] <Bluefoxicy> but that's more of a phantom concern
[16:38] <FernandoMiguel> Bluefoxicy: *all* VB versions out there *always* break on me when kernel upgrades
[16:38] <FernandoMiguel> I just stop caring
[16:38] <Bluefoxicy> haha
[16:38] <Bluefoxicy> VirtualBox was amazing before it was entirely mature
[16:39] <FernandoMiguel> when that happens, I just boot use the older kernel for a few days
[16:39] <FernandoMiguel> till it works
[16:39] <Bluefoxicy> it was faster than VMware even without the CPU virtualization extensions
[16:39] <FernandoMiguel> KVM FTW
[16:39] <penguin42> Bluefoxicy: I suspect someone could add USB2 but it's not trivial, and as FM says, a lot of people are doing KVM/QEMU stuff these days (which I think USB2 went into a few months back - or is at least around)
[16:40] <Bluefoxicy> nice
[16:40] <Bluefoxicy> I'll have to look into KVM
[16:40] <Bluefoxicy> adding USB2 isn't trivial by any stretch:  it's an entire emulated host controller interface
[16:40] <Bluefoxicy> I just figured someone would have done it
[16:41] <Bluefoxicy> or maybe had the sanity to write an API on top of an emulated HCI and use the same code library for VBox/KVM/Qemu
[16:41] <Bluefoxicy> virtualization on Linux should be a big feature :|
[16:41] <Bluefoxicy> but it's so fragmented
[16:41] <Bluefoxicy> everyone is using Xen, or KVM, or VirtualBox
[16:42] <Bluefoxicy> some people went with VMware, mostly VMware has its own server and such
[16:42] <Bluefoxicy> etc
[16:42] <Bluefoxicy> it would be a killer feature if Ubuntu could actually boot other OSes
[16:43] <Bluefoxicy> like if it detected Windows on /dev/sda1 and let you boot it (unmounts sda1) using a device mapper device that maps in a partition table and that partition
[16:44] <Bluefoxicy> it'd be a little tricky of course (you'd have to generate a custom bootloader for the MBR being mapped in)
[16:44] <Bluefoxicy> and you'd lose all the other partitions (Windows boots without its D: and F:!) :P
[16:52] <penguin42> Bluefoxicy: The tricky thing there is to make the windows that boots see it's devices with the appropriate device drivers; windows doesn't normally like being moved between hardware
[16:52] <Bluefoxicy> that's true
[18:48] <FernandoMiguel> great....
[18:48] <FernandoMiguel> my SSL certs are screwed
[18:48] <FernandoMiguel> both FF and chrome show expired SSL for multicert
[18:49] <FernandoMiguel> but they say they have issued new certs two months ago
[18:49] <FernandoMiguel> ca-certificates is from 201202
[18:50] <FernandoMiguel> /etc/ssl/certs has nothing new either
[18:50] <FernandoMiguel> /home/fernando/.mozilla/firefox/omcco3vm.default/cert8.db seems to be the culprid, aka the SSL store
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel> s$ lsof | grep cert
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /root/.gvfs
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel>       Output information may be incomplete.
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel> chrome     4786   fernando   51u      REG                8,5     19456   132341 /home/fernando/.pki/nssdb/cert9.db
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel> chrome     5255   fernando   23w      REG                8,5    131072   132768 /home/fernando/.mozilla/firefox/omcco3vm.default/cert8.db
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel> chrome     5255   fernando   32r      REG                8,5     65536   677418 /home/fernando/.adobe/Flash_Player/cert8.db (deleted)
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel> chrome     5255   fernando   33r      REG                8,5     65536   677404 /home/fernando/.adobe/Flash_Player/cert8.db (deleted)
[18:51] <FernandoMiguel> chrome     5255   fernando   34u      REG                8,5     65536   673820 /home/fernando/.adobe/Flash_Player/cert8.db (deleted)
[19:00] <Fyodorovna> FernandoMiguel, do you have a link for pastebin?
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel> paste.ubuntu.com
[19:00] <Fyodorovna> FernandoMiguel, cool, it makes things easier if you use it if you can. :)
[19:02] <Fyodorovna> FernandoMiguel, the bot will usually tell you this not sure why it didn't, must be out for lunch lol.
[19:02] <FernandoMiguel> indeed it is
[19:14] <|_Dammed_|> wow  no ops here
[19:15] <|_Dammed_|> whats the point of putting ubuntu on a tf101 tablet
[19:18] <penguin42> |_Dammed_|: Well if you want to do some dev on the move the Transformer isn't that bad a choice
[19:37] <ikonia> |_Dammed_|: did you need help from an op ?
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> ikonia; he was mildly surprised that he didn't see any badge wearing ops around
[19:39] <ikonia> oh, right
[20:14] <nickgaw> Hi, Why does do-release-upgrade on 12.04 not upgrade to the next development release?  I did the -d switch and still it says no upgrades
[20:15] <MrChrisDruif> nickgaw; because there isn't been an official build (Alpha, beta etc)
[20:15] <Daekdroom> I think the only way to go to quantal currently is changing sources.list and hope it doesn't go boom.
[20:15] <MrChrisDruif> You can switch sources, if you got a minute or two I can find the command
[20:15] <nickgaw> ok
[20:20] <MrChrisDruif> sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:21] <MrChrisDruif> Should do the trick nickgaw
[20:22] <MrChrisDruif> With other words, switch the words precise for quantal in /etc/apt/sources.list, update the repositories and then do a dist-upgrade
[20:22] <IntuitiveNipple> MrChrisDruif: I believe nickgaw is using 10.04 ... he asked on #ubuntu earlier, I took it to mean he wanted to update to 12.04
[20:23] <MrChrisDruif> IntuitiveNipple; "Why does do-release-upgrade on 12.04" <= looks like 12.04 to me
[20:24] <MrChrisDruif> ow, maybe just "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d" also does the trick nickgaw
[20:24] <nickgaw> I am on 12.04 trying to upgrade to the next development release will try that command
[20:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Ahhh. good point. He's asking two separate questions then!
[20:25] <nickgaw> is it possible that my ubuntu installation could expload and no longer work?
[20:25] <IntuitiveNipple> nickgaw: yes :)
[20:26] <IntuitiveNipple> 12.10 is only just getting going
[20:26] <MrChrisDruif> Yup, always backup your data
[20:26] <MrChrisDruif> It's pre-alpha!!
[20:26] <nickgaw> and is it possible that as I am totally blind and use orca for reading what is on the screen that I would lose speech during the upgrade process and require sited assistance?
[20:26] <KM0201> nickgaw: i'd say not only possible, but likely..lol
[20:27] <MrChrisDruif> KM0201; don't l.o.l. on that...
[20:27] <IntuitiveNipple> nickgaw: I'd strongly recommend you stay with what you have. The development release is supposed to break frequently this early on in the cycle
[20:27] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: it's true though.
[20:27] <MrChrisDruif> KM0201; it might be true, but no need to append lol right?
[20:28] <nickgaw> what is wrong with lol on something like that?  I thought that was the point of development was breaking and fixing things?
[20:28] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: i think you're being oversensitive.
[20:28] <MrChrisDruif> Might be...bit tired ^_^
[20:28] <IntuitiveNipple> It's either LOL or COL (cries out loud!)
[20:28] <nickgaw> good point
[20:28] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe =D
[20:29] <IntuitiveNipple> I've personally physically thrown a alpha-dev system out the 1st floor window for breaking!
[20:29] <IntuitiveNipple> It didn't help O.O
[20:29] <nickgaw> what package contains the vmbuilder command for building an ubuntu virtual machine with use with qemu and would the windows installer .disc format be usable as a virtual machine with qemu?
[20:43] <penguin42> looks like it's python-vm-builder
[20:43] <penguin42> nickgaw: I like the apt-file command for finding that type of thing
[20:43] <MrChrisDruif> apt-file?
[20:44] <penguin42> apt-file
[20:44] <MrChrisDruif> Installing...
[20:44] <IntuitiveNipple> apt-file - APT package searching utility -- command-line interface
[20:44] <jbicha> dpkg -S also works
[20:44] <penguin42> MrChrisDruif: Wonderful program - lets you find a file in a package even if you've not got it installed
[20:45] <MrChrisDruif> I know of apt-cache
[20:45] <penguin42> jbicha: Only if you have it installed
[20:45] <IntuitiveNipple> dpkg -S only works for installed packages
[20:45] <penguin42> IntuitiveNipple: Which dev board ?
[20:45] <IntuitiveNipple> penguin42: huh?
[20:46] <penguin42> IntuitiveNipple: That you defenestrated
[20:46] <jbicha> apt-file only works if you have it installed too ;)
[20:46] <IntuitiveNipple> oh! I forget now... but I'm sure it'll be putting up shoots in the garden soon :p
[20:46] <jbicha> lol
[20:47] <IntuitiveNipple> I did try growing a bluetooth keyboard too :p
[20:47] <penguin42> IntuitiveNipple: I believe they're better as holders for cress
[20:48] <IntuitiveNipple> :) Bit wimpy for me ... I'm a farmboy... I'll go with rape sugar beat and potatoes!
[20:48] <penguin42> I'm not sure there's enough room for a spud in a keyboard