| trinikrono | yes it is | 00:00 |
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| trinikrono | okie i see it in the varlogdistupgradeapttermlog file | 00:01 |
| EvilResistance | if a bug report is triaged, and a potential solution/patch is included on that bug, do we leave it triaged? | 00:45 |
| Daekdroom | Until it's commited, yes. | 00:45 |
| Daekdroom | 'Fix Committed is not to be used when a patch is attached to a bug ' according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status | 00:46 |
| EvilResistance | so with this bug, does anything else have to be done? (I wasnt the triager, but I did create the debdiff that would fix the unrequired dependencies issue) LP 995262 | 00:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 995262 in ubuntuone-control-panel "ubuntuone-control-panel-common requires ubuntuone-installer" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995262 | 00:47 |
| EvilResistance | apart from poking someone who can upload/test the changes (being on a Natty system to check a Precise fix isnt exactly possible, especially with a mostly-dead drive) | 00:47 |
| Daekdroom | I don't think there is anything else to do. | 00:48 |
| Daekdroom | I do think, however, it makes sense if you assign the bug to yourself if that's possible. | 00:49 |
| EvilResistance | now that i can do | 00:49 |
| EvilResistance | can't change the importance or anything else though, for some reason i think my bug-access rights somehow got messed | 00:50 |
| EvilResistance | might just be FFox being stupid though | 00:50 |
| EvilResistance | (even if it were needing its status changed off of Triaged, system won't allow me to :/) | 00:50 |
| Daekdroom | I think those things are limited to the Ubuntu Bug Control team. | 00:52 |
| EvilResistance | probably | 00:52 |
| EvilResistance | i know (at the least) Won't Fix and Triaged are bugcontrol | 00:52 |
| EvilResistance | so if i file a debdiff on a bug and its not assigned, i should assign myself to the bug, then? or is that a per-bug personal decision? | 00:53 |
| hggdh | EvilResistance: first of all, all fixes have to be verified against Quantal (the current development release) | 01:04 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: the version in Quantal is the same in Precise | 01:04 |
| EvilResistance | last i checked the repos match | 01:04 |
| hggdh | EvilResistance: then the fix will first have to be shown correct on quantal | 01:04 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: secondly, the MOTUs are being slow today in explaining enabling a Quantal chroot in pbuilder pre-precise | 01:04 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: the debdiffs would be identical in this case :P | 01:05 |
| hggdh | onve quantal is fix released, then a SRU is requested | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: changing debian/control in precise or quantal would be the same | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | the resulting debdiff woudl show the exact same changes | 01:05 |
| hggdh | EvilResistance: still. It HAS to be first fixed there | 01:05 |
| hggdh | has it been applied to quantal? | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: it hasnt been applied to any, i dont have upload perms. i'm building my quantal chroot to confirm binaries build there | 01:06 |
| EvilResistance | but again, last i checked, the repos for relevant programs match | 01:06 |
| hggdh | it is not if they match or not match, it is that the fix has to first be applied on the development release, and THEN requested as a SRU | 01:06 |
| hggdh | so your first debdiff should be for quantal | 01:07 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: can you and i talk in /query then about this? | 01:07 |
| EvilResistance | because last i checked the debdiff when excluding the debian/changelog for building the .dscs is the *same* | 01:07 |
| EvilResistance | (in this instance) | 01:07 |
| hggdh | a debdiff without the debian changelog does not apply... | 01:08 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: then tell the MOTUs that | 01:08 |
| EvilResistance | because the MOTUs are the ones who said to not include changelogs when filing debdiffs | 01:08 |
| * EvilResistance will rebuild *with* changelogs after the quantal chroot actually stops 404ing in the archives | 01:08 | |
| hggdh | ah well. Then it is not a debdiff. But follow their instructions, and forget what I said | 01:10 |
| hggdh | whatever than means | 01:10 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: see privmsgs :P | 01:15 |
| EvilResistance | (you've already seen it, but still) | 01:15 |
| steemed | hi again | 01:20 |
| steemed | EvilResistance: having problems with debdiff? | 01:21 |
| EvilResistance | steemed: nah, just a minor argument with hggdh | 01:21 |
| steemed | ah ok | 01:21 |
| EvilResistance | one that's been resolved by the stated advice from MOTUs to me when making debdiffs for submission to bugs :P | 01:21 |
| hggdh | :-) | 01:21 |
| EvilResistance | hggdh: final question: | 01:22 |
| hggdh | quickly, please | 01:22 |
| hggdh | gotta go | 01:22 |
| EvilResistance | if, as i stated before, the debdiffs for the quantal and the precise builds are *identical*, and therefore the debdiff can work for both, do i really need to upload two identical debdiffs? | 01:22 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 01:22 |
| hggdh | no | 01:22 |
| EvilResistance | just checking ;P | 01:22 |
| EvilResistance | now don't be late! | 01:23 |
| EvilResistance | being late is a negative thing! | 01:23 |
| hggdh | better saying you *should* not need to. But you will need to request a SRU | 01:23 |
| hggdh | very negative | 01:23 |
| hggdh | cheers | 01:23 |
| * hggdh is gone | 01:23 | |
| steemed | hah | 01:23 |
| EvilResistance | yeah, SRUs are semi-annoying, last one i filed required 50 changes before it was accepted as valid :P | 01:23 |
| * EvilResistance looks up the SRU templates again, since he forgot to bookmark them | 01:24 | |
| steemed | SRU? | 01:24 |
| EvilResistance | steemed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates <-- | 01:24 |
| EvilResistance | required to get an update pushed for current releases | 01:24 |
| EvilResistance | (Precise, for instance, otherwise the changes only exist in the dev release) | 01:25 |
| steemed | ah, well that is a bummer | 01:25 |
| EvilResistance | steemed: i can still do it | 01:25 |
| steemed | cool | 01:25 |
| EvilResistance | but first step is making sure the package builds in Quantal | 01:25 |
| EvilResistance | AND WILL THE CHROOT STOP 404ING ON QUANTAL REPOSITORIES!!! :/ | 01:25 |
| steemed | wat | 01:25 |
| steemed | lol | 01:25 |
| EvilResistance | (sorry for the caps, but this is the 6th time i've said for the chroot for building the program binaries to build, and its still 404ing) | 01:25 |
| steemed | I forget what is chroot | 01:26 |
| EvilResistance | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot | 01:27 |
| steemed | Ah so you are trying to replicate a virtual environment | 01:29 |
| EvilResistance | have to | 01:29 |
| EvilResistance | to build the binaries | 01:29 |
| steemed | All this to change the control script? | 01:29 |
| EvilResistance | not really | 01:29 |
| EvilResistance | but i've learned something: | 01:30 |
| EvilResistance | when changing the structure of a debian package in any way, shape, or form, always test before uploading a fix | 01:30 |
| * EvilResistance learned this from backporting things | 01:30 | |
| steemed | yeah | 01:30 |
| steemed | just make sure it works | 01:30 |
| steemed | I can try to do it | 01:30 |
| EvilResistance | well i know the package builds in Precise | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | but to get it updated in Precise i'll have to file an SRU | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | (I'll do it, but meh) | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | (SRUs can be ugly) | 01:31 |
| steemed | ick | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | hiya Flannel | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | how goes it | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | whoops | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 01:31 |
| * EvilResistance just accidentially broke his precise chroot | 01:31 | |
| EvilResistance | well... | 01:31 |
| EvilResistance | that... sucks... | 01:32 |
| steemed | :/ | 01:32 |
| EvilResistance | i know how i'll handle this | 01:33 |
| steemed | I used to be an Ubuntu member but it was revoked because i wasnt active for the longest time | 01:33 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 01:33 |
| EvilResistance | i'm still active :P | 01:33 |
| steemed | hah | 01:33 |
| steemed | Well I used Windows for a long time because my college required software for it | 01:34 |
| steemed | And was too busy | 01:34 |
| steemed | I will say this: I like Unity | 01:36 |
| steemed | And don't know why people dont like it | 01:38 |
| EvilResistance | FINALLY the chroot builds | 01:41 |
| * EvilResistance glares evilly at the archives | 01:41 | |
| steemed | lol | 01:49 |
| steemed | yay | 01:56 |
| EvilResistance | steemed: there we go, i think | 01:57 |
| steemed | Someone got a bit overexcited with depemdencies on ubuntu one | 01:57 |
| * EvilResistance shrugs | 01:58 | |
| steemed | So is Quantal right now just a development platform to fix stuff? | 02:08 |
| EvilResistance | its the next version of Ubuntu, its dev cycle i think has already begun | 02:09 |
| steemed | Ah | 02:09 |
| steemed | I'm guessing it would be a good thing to have a machine or a vm to have that when bug testing or patching | 02:10 |
| EvilResistance | mhm. but if ubuntuone is using Qt, then it doesnt exactly need the GTK stuff | 02:11 |
| steemed | Yeah | 02:11 |
| steemed | The installer does need it because it is preserving ISO space and not using QT libs which take more space up | 02:12 |
| steemed | It's included with the 12.04 ISO | 02:12 |
| steemed | But the thing is Ubuntu ONe isn't dependent on it | 02:13 |
| steemed | Or shouldn't be | 02:13 |
| Daekdroom | Doesn't the ISO ship QT for Unity-2D? | 02:51 |
| steemed | Daekdroom: oh, you are right | 02:55 |
| steemed | Why does the installer need to use gtk then... | 02:55 |
| steemed | It could just use qt | 02:55 |
| Daekdroom | Do Xubuntu and Lubuntu ship UbuntuOne Installer? If they do, do they ship QT libraries or GTK? | 03:02 |
| Daekdroom | Regardless of the answers to those questions, it might be that they never bothered to recode the installer in QT :P | 03:02 |
| steemed | Hah. | 03:02 |
| Daekdroom | The control panel was changed to QT very late in the precise cycle, iirc. | 03:03 |
| steemed | And then went crazy and included the installer in the dependency... | 03:03 |
| steemed | Daekdroom: really? | 03:03 |
| steemed | It's a smart move | 03:03 |
| steemed | TB | 03:03 |
| steemed | TBH | 03:03 |
| steemed | That way it can work on Windows and people use it there | 03:04 |
| Daekdroom | But it looks ugly :( | 03:04 |
| steemed | And it doesn't have to be included in Ubuntu by default | 03:04 |
| steemed | Looks fine to me | 03:04 |
| steemed | And it does what it is designed to do: sync data | 03:05 |
| steemed | I think Ubuntu One maybe better than a lot of other cloud storage solutions because you can add any folder in the system to sync. | 03:06 |
| steemed | Although Google Drive is the cheapest | 03:12 |
| steemed | EvilResistance: I added myself to be approved to the Ubuntu BugSquad :) | 04:11 |
| chilicuil | hi, I'd like someone to mark bug 994949 as triaged with importance medium | 04:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 994949 in nautilus "When nautilus opens it is not the active window" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994949 | 04:52 |
| liujianchi | names | 04:58 |
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| txomon|home | hi, is there any known bug with gnome terminal in 12.04? | 13:37 |
| jtaylor | yes 308 even :) | 13:40 |
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| steemed | EvilResistance: poke | 17:16 |
| EvilResistance | steemed: hm? | 17:16 |
| EvilResistance | (also randomly poking me is a bad idea() | 17:16 |
| steemed | EvilResistance: eep | 17:19 |
| EvilResistance | whats up | 17:19 |
| steemed | EvilResistance: I signed myself up for the bug squad waiting approval :) | 17:19 |
| EvilResistance | steemed: i'm not the approval person :p | 17:19 |
| steemed | EvilResistance: I know :p (Or I didn't expect it) | 17:19 |
| EvilResistance | don't poke me about it (and i saw your post in the logs, i didnt see a real need to respond) | 17:19 |
| steemed | ah | 17:19 |
| steemed | Ok :) | 17:19 |
| * EvilResistance returns to the high-priority code he's writing | 17:19 | |
| steemed | srsbsns | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | steemed: Would you poke a sleeping tiger? | 17:20 |
| steemed | Can it be a kitten instead? | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | nope | 17:20 |
| steemed | damn | 17:20 |
| steemed | THen no | 17:20 |
| Daekdroom | I wouldn't poke a sleeping tiger. | 17:22 |
| * Elbrus is wondering if he can "unduplicate" bugs in launchpad | 18:29 | |
| * Elbrus made a mistake | 18:29 | |
| * Elbrus finally sees the link in the icon in front of the duplicate line | 18:32 | |
| penguin42 | yes you can - which bug? | 18:46 |
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