[00:00] yes it is [00:01] okie i see it in the varlogdistupgradeapttermlog file [00:45] if a bug report is triaged, and a potential solution/patch is included on that bug, do we leave it triaged? [00:45] Until it's commited, yes. [00:46] 'Fix Committed is not to be used when a patch is attached to a bug ' according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status [00:47] so with this bug, does anything else have to be done? (I wasnt the triager, but I did create the debdiff that would fix the unrequired dependencies issue) LP 995262 [00:47] Launchpad bug 995262 in ubuntuone-control-panel "ubuntuone-control-panel-common requires ubuntuone-installer" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995262 [00:47] apart from poking someone who can upload/test the changes (being on a Natty system to check a Precise fix isnt exactly possible, especially with a mostly-dead drive) [00:48] I don't think there is anything else to do. [00:49] I do think, however, it makes sense if you assign the bug to yourself if that's possible. [00:49] now that i can do [00:50] can't change the importance or anything else though, for some reason i think my bug-access rights somehow got messed [00:50] might just be FFox being stupid though [00:50] (even if it were needing its status changed off of Triaged, system won't allow me to :/) [00:52] I think those things are limited to the Ubuntu Bug Control team. [00:52] probably [00:52] i know (at the least) Won't Fix and Triaged are bugcontrol [00:53] so if i file a debdiff on a bug and its not assigned, i should assign myself to the bug, then? or is that a per-bug personal decision? [01:04] EvilResistance: first of all, all fixes have to be verified against Quantal (the current development release) [01:04] hggdh: the version in Quantal is the same in Precise [01:04] last i checked the repos match [01:04] EvilResistance: then the fix will first have to be shown correct on quantal [01:04] hggdh: secondly, the MOTUs are being slow today in explaining enabling a Quantal chroot in pbuilder pre-precise [01:05] hggdh: the debdiffs would be identical in this case :P [01:05] onve quantal is fix released, then a SRU is requested [01:05] hggdh: changing debian/control in precise or quantal would be the same [01:05] the resulting debdiff woudl show the exact same changes [01:05] EvilResistance: still. It HAS to be first fixed there [01:05] has it been applied to quantal? [01:06] hggdh: it hasnt been applied to any, i dont have upload perms. i'm building my quantal chroot to confirm binaries build there [01:06] but again, last i checked, the repos for relevant programs match [01:06] it is not if they match or not match, it is that the fix has to first be applied on the development release, and THEN requested as a SRU [01:07] so your first debdiff should be for quantal [01:07] hggdh: can you and i talk in /query then about this? [01:07] because last i checked the debdiff when excluding the debian/changelog for building the .dscs is the *same* [01:07] (in this instance) [01:08] a debdiff without the debian changelog does not apply... [01:08] hggdh: then tell the MOTUs that [01:08] because the MOTUs are the ones who said to not include changelogs when filing debdiffs [01:08] * EvilResistance will rebuild *with* changelogs after the quantal chroot actually stops 404ing in the archives [01:10] ah well. Then it is not a debdiff. But follow their instructions, and forget what I said [01:10] whatever than means [01:15] hggdh: see privmsgs :P [01:15] (you've already seen it, but still) [01:20] hi again [01:21] EvilResistance: having problems with debdiff? [01:21] steemed: nah, just a minor argument with hggdh [01:21] ah ok [01:21] one that's been resolved by the stated advice from MOTUs to me when making debdiffs for submission to bugs :P [01:21] :-) [01:22] hggdh: final question: [01:22] quickly, please [01:22] gotta go [01:22] if, as i stated before, the debdiffs for the quantal and the precise builds are *identical*, and therefore the debdiff can work for both, do i really need to upload two identical debdiffs? [01:22] :P [01:22] no [01:22] just checking ;P [01:23] now don't be late! [01:23] being late is a negative thing! [01:23] better saying you *should* not need to. But you will need to request a SRU [01:23] very negative [01:23] cheers [01:23] * hggdh is gone [01:23] hah [01:23] yeah, SRUs are semi-annoying, last one i filed required 50 changes before it was accepted as valid :P [01:24] * EvilResistance looks up the SRU templates again, since he forgot to bookmark them [01:24] SRU? [01:24] steemed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates <-- [01:24] required to get an update pushed for current releases [01:25] (Precise, for instance, otherwise the changes only exist in the dev release) [01:25] ah, well that is a bummer [01:25] steemed: i can still do it [01:25] cool [01:25] but first step is making sure the package builds in Quantal [01:25] AND WILL THE CHROOT STOP 404ING ON QUANTAL REPOSITORIES!!! :/ [01:25] wat [01:25] lol [01:25] (sorry for the caps, but this is the 6th time i've said for the chroot for building the program binaries to build, and its still 404ing) [01:26] I forget what is chroot [01:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot [01:29] Ah so you are trying to replicate a virtual environment [01:29] have to [01:29] to build the binaries [01:29] All this to change the control script? [01:29] not really [01:30] but i've learned something: [01:30] when changing the structure of a debian package in any way, shape, or form, always test before uploading a fix [01:30] * EvilResistance learned this from backporting things [01:30] yeah [01:30] just make sure it works [01:30] I can try to do it [01:31] well i know the package builds in Precise [01:31] but to get it updated in Precise i'll have to file an SRU [01:31] (I'll do it, but meh) [01:31] (SRUs can be ugly) [01:31] ick [01:31] hiya Flannel [01:31] how goes it [01:31] whoops [01:31] :P [01:31] * EvilResistance just accidentially broke his precise chroot [01:31] well... [01:32] that... sucks... [01:32] :/ [01:33] i know how i'll handle this [01:33] I used to be an Ubuntu member but it was revoked because i wasnt active for the longest time [01:33] :P [01:33] i'm still active :P [01:33] hah [01:34] Well I used Windows for a long time because my college required software for it [01:34] And was too busy [01:36] I will say this: I like Unity [01:38] And don't know why people dont like it [01:41] FINALLY the chroot builds [01:41] * EvilResistance glares evilly at the archives [01:49] lol [01:56] yay [01:57] steemed: there we go, i think [01:57] Someone got a bit overexcited with depemdencies on ubuntu one [01:58] * EvilResistance shrugs [02:08] So is Quantal right now just a development platform to fix stuff? [02:09] its the next version of Ubuntu, its dev cycle i think has already begun [02:09] Ah [02:10] I'm guessing it would be a good thing to have a machine or a vm to have that when bug testing or patching [02:11] mhm. but if ubuntuone is using Qt, then it doesnt exactly need the GTK stuff [02:11] Yeah [02:12] The installer does need it because it is preserving ISO space and not using QT libs which take more space up [02:12] It's included with the 12.04 ISO [02:13] But the thing is Ubuntu ONe isn't dependent on it [02:13] Or shouldn't be [02:51] Doesn't the ISO ship QT for Unity-2D? [02:55] Daekdroom: oh, you are right [02:55] Why does the installer need to use gtk then... [02:55] It could just use qt [03:02] Do Xubuntu and Lubuntu ship UbuntuOne Installer? If they do, do they ship QT libraries or GTK? [03:02] Regardless of the answers to those questions, it might be that they never bothered to recode the installer in QT :P [03:02] Hah. [03:03] The control panel was changed to QT very late in the precise cycle, iirc. [03:03] And then went crazy and included the installer in the dependency... [03:03] Daekdroom: really? [03:03] It's a smart move [03:03] TB [03:03] TBH [03:04] That way it can work on Windows and people use it there [03:04] But it looks ugly :( [03:04] And it doesn't have to be included in Ubuntu by default [03:04] Looks fine to me [03:05] And it does what it is designed to do: sync data [03:06] I think Ubuntu One maybe better than a lot of other cloud storage solutions because you can add any folder in the system to sync. [03:12] Although Google Drive is the cheapest [04:11] EvilResistance: I added myself to be approved to the Ubuntu BugSquad :) [04:52] hi, I'd like someone to mark bug 994949 as triaged with importance medium [04:52] Launchpad bug 994949 in nautilus "When nautilus opens it is not the active window" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994949 [04:58] names === emma is now known as em [13:37] hi, is there any known bug with gnome terminal in 12.04? [13:40] yes 308 even :) === emma is now known as em [17:16] EvilResistance: poke [17:16] steemed: hm? [17:16] (also randomly poking me is a bad idea() [17:19] EvilResistance: eep [17:19] whats up [17:19] EvilResistance: I signed myself up for the bug squad waiting approval :) [17:19] steemed: i'm not the approval person :p [17:19] EvilResistance: I know :p (Or I didn't expect it) [17:19] don't poke me about it (and i saw your post in the logs, i didnt see a real need to respond) [17:19] ah [17:19] Ok :) [17:19] * EvilResistance returns to the high-priority code he's writing [17:20] srsbsns [17:20] steemed: Would you poke a sleeping tiger? [17:20] Can it be a kitten instead? [17:20] nope [17:20] damn [17:20] THen no [17:22] I wouldn't poke a sleeping tiger. [18:29] * Elbrus is wondering if he can "unduplicate" bugs in launchpad [18:29] * Elbrus made a mistake [18:32] * Elbrus finally sees the link in the icon in front of the duplicate line [18:46] yes you can - which bug? === JamesJRH_ is now known as JamesJRH === yofel_ is now known as yofel === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance