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| dscassel | Jeruvy: Re: raymound, I sympathize, but the mailing list is intended to be a support channel. | 12:29 |
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| dscassel | Although he does post off-topic crap from time to time, I Don't think his recent posts qualify. | 12:30 |
| FiReSTaRT | hey darcy | 13:25 |
| FiReSTaRT | i haven't had the spare time to really look at the mailing list but i do remember lots of mail coming in from raymond.. what happened there? | 13:26 |
| dscassel | FiReSTaRT: Jeruvy sent a email to Raymond off-list asking him to ease up on posts not related to the Ubuntu community in Canada. | 13:27 |
| FiReSTaRT | ahh ok.. the mailing list has a purpose.. forums and the irc (off-topic channels or less formal communities) are better for OT stuff | 13:28 |
| dscassel | Raymond replied *on*-list with a "I thought the list was for getting help" | 13:29 |
| dscassel | And, like I said, it *is* as support list. But yeah, Raymond kinda gets on my nerves too, sometimes. | 13:29 |
| FiReSTaRT | it is for getting help as long as it's ON TOPIC | 13:30 |
| dscassel | Yeah. And he has been, for the most part. | 13:30 |
| FiReSTaRT | ok good, so the issue has been resolved? | 13:31 |
| dscassel | There's occasional off-topic stuff (like what Microsoft is doing), but I think that tends to be Chris more than raymond. | 13:31 |
| dscassel | FiReSTaRT: Well, no. I should probably write an email to the list saying what I believe to be off-topic and on-. Since I'm moderator and all. | 13:31 |
| dscassel | But otherwise, yeah. | 13:31 |
| FiReSTaRT | not a bad idea at all and that's gonna be something i'll make the time for reading :) | 13:32 |
| FiReSTaRT | btw have you tried playing with cinnamon? not a bad little de at all.. yeah a few bugs and glitches, but it sure beats gs and u :) | 13:33 |
| dscassel | One of the guys at the release party was using it so I saw it. | 13:33 |
| FiReSTaRT | once they squash a few bugs i see pressure to release CUbuntu in the cards :) | 13:34 |
| dscassel | *shrug*, I like unity, m'self. I've never been a fan of the win95 UI paradigm. | 13:34 |
| FiReSTaRT | since the early days, i' | 13:35 |
| FiReSTaRT | i've always had my things organized, so i got well-adjusted to wimp | 13:35 |
| FiReSTaRT | switching over to the tablet paradigm took the carpet right from under me | 13:35 |
| dscassel | But I was an Amiga user. I came to WIndows reluctantly around '99. | 13:36 |
| FiReSTaRT | i know that tablets and appliances are the fastest growing segment and why mark would wanna cater to them | 13:36 |
| FiReSTaRT | i left dos kicking and screaming lol | 13:36 |
| dscassel | I don't see unity as a tablet UI, particularly as keyboard shortcuts are so prominent and central (even if they do keep changing them. :/) | 13:36 |
| FiReSTaRT | clem did a pretty decent job with mgse so it had the right amount of keyboard and mouse use to maintain the workflow | 13:37 |
| FiReSTaRT | but didn't like chasing after the gnome hippies' so he decided to fork it... not a bad idea at all, especially if he can steal some of their more competent devs | 13:38 |
| dscassel | He's doing something people want and like, so more power to him, really. | 13:38 |
| dscassel | That's what free software's all about. | 13:38 |
| FiReSTaRT | exactly... and i don't bash people for liking unity... everybody has their own way of doing things and that's what's so great about floss | 13:39 |
| FiReSTaRT | got a need? you're free to scratch the itch :) | 13:39 |
| FiReSTaRT | what i'm not so sure about is that they' | 13:40 |
| FiReSTaRT | re considering switching over from ubuntu to debian base | 13:40 |
| FiReSTaRT | yes, better stability, but hardware support would be slow in coming | 13:40 |
| dscassel | I'm sure basing a distro off Ubuntu has gotten to be a pain. A lot of stuff is being touched now in a 6 month cycle. | 13:42 |
| dscassel | Hopefully that'll improve now that Ubuntu people are off working in unity or whatever, but I probably wouldn't be so optimistic if i was maintaining a derivitive distro. | 13:44 |
| FiReSTaRT | ubuntu has historically had an aggressive dev schedule, which is not a bad thing as long as the LTS editions were kept rock solid. sadly, my favourite ubuntu releases haven't been lts | 13:46 |
| FiReSTaRT | and there was too much new stuff released into the lts and then there was the scramble to hunt the bugs | 13:47 |
| dscassel | Time will tell, but I'm pretty impressed with 12.04 so far. | 13:48 |
| FiReSTaRT | i had trouble installing the lubuntu version in virtual box... the install process kept crashing the virtual appliance for some reason | 13:49 |
| FiReSTaRT | and i REALLY wanted to switch to it (just need a virtual appliance to connect to the vpn, run terminal, run twinkle, run nx)d | 13:49 |
| FiReSTaRT | cross out the "d" at the end :P | 13:49 |
| FiReSTaRT | my current appliance is running maverick and i'd like something i can update | 13:50 |
| FiReSTaRT | my buddy told me the 32bit version should be more stable and less buggy but the 32bit nx client has some issues, i forget what they were, but i couldn't work with it | 13:52 |
| FiReSTaRT | btw any idea if they made xubuntu more gtk theme-friendly? | 13:55 |
| dscassel | No idea. I wasn't even aware there were problems. What doesn't work? | 14:02 |
| FiReSTaRT | ok, initially i was running mint (lisa) with xfce installed.. had a few dark gtk themes that i liked, so i installed them and used them normally | 14:03 |
| FiReSTaRT | then i figured, since i'm already using xfce, why not just go with xubuntu | 14:04 |
| FiReSTaRT | also keeps less junk installed on my system | 14:04 |
| FiReSTaRT | for some reason, now i forget, whether it completely failed to recognize them or just didn't display everything properly | 14:04 |
| FiReSTaRT | but they were completely unuseable | 14:05 |
| FiReSTaRT | the only thing i haven't tried was installing another ubuntu release like kubuntu (worked resonably nicely in 11.10), lubuntu or regular, installing xfce on top of it and testing the themes | 14:06 |
| FiReSTaRT | brb stepping out for a smoke :) | 14:06 |
| FiReSTaRT | back | 14:15 |
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