[00:18] <mhall119> pleia2: we're upstairs at the bar
[00:27] <IdleOne> let's all get hammered off our arses and tomorrow we can start planning the next release :)
[00:27] <IdleOne> wait, I'm not there
[00:44]  * pleia2 hugs IdleOne 
[00:45] <benonsoftware> What will the weather be in Oakland?
[00:45] <cjohnston> IdleOne: doesn't mean you cant get hammered
[00:45] <pleia2> benonsoftware: sunny and 70sF
[00:46] <cjohnston> benonsoftware: awesome
[00:46] <benonsoftware> pleia2: Nice weather
[00:46] <benonsoftware> I wish I could join you all :P
[00:47] <IdleOne> cjohnston: true but I also don't drink
[00:47]  * IdleOne hugs pleia2 
[01:45] <cjohnston> /29
[01:46] <IdleOne> BINGO!
[01:46] <cjohnston> IdleOne: have a h2o, neat
[04:12] <benonsoftware>  Where would a question about the UBuntu keyserver be good to ask?
[04:48] <mhall119> benonsoftware: what's the question?
[04:48] <benonsoftware> mhall119: I need to remove a public key from it as I've changed the UID's with it
[04:49] <mhall119> oh, hmmm, that I don't know. try posting your question on askubuntu.com
[04:49] <benonsoftware> mhall119: Ah, okies. Thanks
[04:58] <czajkowski> ok I give in
[04:58] <czajkowski> up 2 hrs
[04:58] <czajkowski> *24
[04:58] <czajkowski> I need sleep
[05:33] <mhall119> sleep czajkowski
[12:57] <bkerensa-train> Good morning
[12:58] <IdleOne> Morning
[12:59] <IdleOne> nice, train from Portland to Oakland?
[12:59] <IdleOne> how long of a trip is that?
[13:00] <bkerensa-train> 12 hours and its bern ok except for two crying babies
[13:01] <IdleOne> they allow babies in the bar car?
[13:01] <IdleOne> lol
[13:01] <bkerensa-train> Lol
[13:01] <bkerensa-train> Bar closed at 11
[13:01] <bkerensa-train> :(
[13:02] <IdleOne> oh, you left last night?
[13:02] <bkerensa-train> Yes
[13:02] <bkerensa-train> 2pm yesterday
[13:02] <bkerensa-train> And ill be there in 2hours
[13:03] <bkerensa-train> IdleOne: are you there now?
[13:03] <IdleOne> I did Montreal - Philly and  Philly - Montreal once took about 16 hours
[13:03] <IdleOne> bkerensa-train: No, I can't attend UDS
[13:04] <bkerensa-train> Ahh
[13:04] <IdleOne> mark has banned me for life.
[13:04] <bkerensa-train> Oh
[13:04] <IdleOne> apparently handing out Windows Cds is not acceptable :P
[13:04] <bkerensa-train> Heh
[13:04] <IdleOne> hehe, just kidding, but no I am not there
[13:05] <IdleOne> maybe the next time it is in Europe
[13:06] <bkerensa-train> I think travelling back will be interesting... we went through snow at the mountains
[13:07] <IdleOne> I enjoyed my two train rides very much, except for the no smoking part
[13:07] <bkerensa-train> Ahh i quit smoking months ago
[13:07] <IdleOne> good for you :)
[13:08] <bkerensa-train> The bar is expensive thiugh they hit me $7 per vodka drink
[13:08] <IdleOne> yup, $3.50 a soda iirc
[13:09] <bkerensa-train> Yep
[13:09] <IdleOne> border crossing while drunk is frowned upon.
[13:09] <bkerensa-train> :)
[13:09] <IdleOne> I remember seeing a lot of people who packed lunches
[13:10] <bkerensa-train> My fiancee packed me a lunch but i ate dinner in the dining car
[15:38] <czajkowski> mhall119: you up
[15:51] <mhall119> czajkowski: yup
[15:53] <mhall119> czajkowski: heading down to the 2nd floor for breakfast
[16:43] <bkerensa> mhall119: very nice rooms :)
[17:35] <mhall119> bkerensa: yeah, they're not bad at all
[21:26] <daker_> seems like i am the only one who's not attending :/
[21:27] <MrChrisDruif> daker_; me neither =(
[21:27] <daker_> :'(
[21:27] <daker_> no luck :/
[21:30] <MrChrisDruif> It sadden me as well
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe I'll really try to attend next one!
[21:44] <daker_> the alt key doesn't bring HUD
[21:47] <daker_> ah now it works
[21:48] <MrChrisDruif> Yay, Alt doesn't bring HUD ^_^
[21:48]  * MrChrisDruif is in GNOME Shell
[21:49] <MrChrisDruif> So it's excepted behaviour...don't change it! ;-)
[22:18] <daker_> i guess i'll say "no luck" to anyone posting anything about UDS
[22:23] <JanC> MrChrisDruif: maybe some next UDS will be in Europe again..
[22:24] <MrChrisDruif> ...or it might be a "good excuse" to visit the states ;-)
[22:24] <JanC> MrChrisDruif: if you have the time/money/etc. yes
[22:24] <JanC> (sponsorship might help, of course ;) )
[22:25] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, but I've at least got a year to sort it out...if not longer
[22:25] <daker_> time : yes, money : no
[22:25] <JanC> daker_: time and money are often related  ;)
[22:26] <daker_> you are right :)
[22:27] <JanC> meaning: when one has the time (e.g. being unemployed), one might not have the money, and when one has the money (being employed), one might not have the time
[22:28] <JanC> I had one good chance by being unemployed during UDS in Belgium
[22:29] <JanC> and I could sleep at my aunt/uncle's place about 15 min from the UDS location  ;)
[22:29] <daker_> but getting a visa when you are unemployed is really HARD => IMPOSSIBLE
[22:30] <JanC> daker_: right, but I live in Belgium, so that was no problem
[22:30] <daker_> ah yes yes
[22:30] <JanC> so I hope you get a similiar chance one day
[22:31] <JanC> similar
[22:32] <daker_> maybe the UDS after UDS that comes after the UDS that comes after UDS that will be held in Europe :)
[22:32] <daker_> which will never come
[22:32] <JanC> daker_: or in Africa, who knows  ;)
[22:32] <daker_> i hope :)
[22:33] <JanC> I think a location in Northern Africa could qualify once things get a bit more quiet there?
[22:34] <JanC> but of course I don't decide that  :P
[22:37] <daker_> JanC: quiet ? hmm ?
[22:44] <JanC> daker_: you're in Morocco, I think?
[22:44] <daker_> yep
[22:44] <JanC> which is relatively quiet compared to say Tunisia, Libya or Egypt
[22:44] <daker_> no :)
[22:44] <JanC> that's what I was referring to
[22:45]  * MrChrisDruif is off to bed
[22:45] <JanC> and even in Morocco there have been protests against the government etc.
[22:46] <JanC> it's something that makes international events difficult sometimes :-(
[22:46] <daker_> JanC: ah yes yes but now we have an elected govt, and a new constitution
[22:47] <JanC> even on a lesser degree, we get that in Belgium because labour unions block  airports when there is social unrest  ;)
[22:48] <JanC> daker_: I hope the new constitution brings you luck
[22:49] <JanC> (even if there was a recent diplomatic incident between Morocco & Belgium ;) )
[22:49] <daker_> JanC: don't tell me that :)
[22:49] <daker_> is the minister still angry ?
[22:50] <JanC> actually, it seems like other people were more angry than her
[22:50] <daker_> awe :/
[22:51] <JanC> so she decided not make it a formal incident, because she had a good agreement with her peer ministers, and didn't want to loose the results of that
[22:52] <JanC> peer ministers = those charged with the same topics as her
[22:53] <JanC> at least, that's what I heard from it
[22:53] <daker_> JanC: well our minister is good, he has just a luck of some protocol policy
[22:54] <JanC> it was you prime minister who caused the incident AFAIK
[22:54] <daker_> since it's the first time to be take a political responsabilty
[22:54] <JanC> but really, most of this issue isn't clear
[22:54] <JanC> our minister didn't want to comment on this at all, so everything we know is 3rd hand
[22:55] <daker_> he wasn't informed about the minister so he was thinking that she was the translator of the other minister
[22:56] <JanC> something like that might have happened
[22:57] <JanC> I suppose that's why our minister didn't want to make it a formal diplomatic incident...  ;)
[22:58] <JanC> (maybe still not nice to think a woman is just a translator though... ;) )
[22:59] <JanC> I guess he won't make that error too often again...  ;)
[22:59] <daker_> JanC: yes he is still learning
[23:00] <daker_> JanC: http://maghreb.minutebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/benkirane-et-ministres-belges.jpg :)
[23:00] <daker_> diabolic look...
[23:01] <daker_> he is cool and open minded
[23:01] <daker_> and he has nothing with the women in general
[23:02] <JanC> well, obviously she felt offended
[23:02] <JanC> but she held her cool and decided to resolve this afterwards
[23:03] <daker_> JanC: i guess he called her to excuse
[23:04] <JanC> from what I heard, he called her while she was at a very important government meeting, and she just dropped the call, but maybe by now, things got resolved somewhat
[23:05] <JanC> (by now, it's not really "news", so less reports in the press about it)
[23:08] <daker_> i don't like diplomatic incidents, i want to get my visa for UDS
[23:08] <JanC> hehe
[23:09] <JanC> daker_: if he doesn't make the same error again, it's unlikely there will be diplomatic incidents... ;)
[23:11] <daker_> JanC: we learn from our errors, if does't, there is no need to stay as PM
[23:11] <JanC> well, not about that topic
[23:12] <JanC> daker_: right
[23:13] <daker_> JanC: i am off to sleep, see you tomorrow at UDS
[23:14] <JanC> I believe in “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity/ignorance.”
[23:14] <daker_> :)
[23:15] <JanC> daker_: I will try to follow UDS, but not sure when...
[23:16] <JanC> I'll check the schedule when it overlaps with my free time