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pikkachuhi, my Windows entry disappeared from the grub menu, so I can't boot it anymore. How to recover it?00:00
spiderwormaha thank you Jordan_U!00:00
MirkoKapikkachu: sudo update-grub00:00
javahelppikkachu, edit grub.conf and put it back :)00:00
Jordan_Upikkachu: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?00:00
Jordan_Uspiderworm: You're welcome.00:00
pikkachuMirkoKa: didn't work00:00
pikkachujavahelp: it's not to be edited00:00
argiefKrenair, /var/log/messages00:00
pikkachuJordan_U: nothing00:01
javahelppikkachu: I've done it before. I use it to boot different OS systems and different kernels00:01
Jordan_Upikkachu: Can you mount your XP partition successfully?00:01
Krenairargief, seems to be empty00:01
pikkachujavahelp: but it's not to be edited, it's said in the top of the file00:01
pikkachuJordan_U: will try00:01
Jordan_U!grub2 | javahelp00:01
ubottujavahelp: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)00:01
javahelppikkachu: not to be edited (by those who don't know what they're doing). :)\00:02
pikkachuJordan_U: worked... I think this happened because I uninstalled the old kernel version after a upgrade but before the reboot, I believe this confused the system...00:03
MirkoKa`prixon: depends of course, I would say 1GB min for just the preferences but don't make it too small, few GBs just to be sure. for / it depends how much progrrams you're going to use, 10-20 GB I'd say (plus stuff like databases, webproject, etc if you have that)00:03
pikkachujavahelp: like me00:03
pikkachujavahelp: besides the parenthesis are yours00:03
Jordan_Ujavahelp: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is overwritten every time there is a kernel upgrade. Editint it directly will therefore not be particularly effective. Custom menu entries can be added to /boot/grub/custom.cfg.00:03
argiefKrenair, how about syslog?00:03
pikkachuJordan_U: by worked I mean mounting, but os-probe outputs nothing00:04
Jordan_U!bootinfo | pikkachu00:04
ubottupikkachu: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).00:04
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`prixonand for the virtual-machine I need space in the home partition or the filesystem? I'm talking about the .vdi files00:05
MirkoKa`prixon: the VM can be placed where ever  you want00:05
javahelpJordan_U: if there is an upgrade, it only adds it to the grub file. Therefore, you're old edits will be there. If you don't want a new addition to the grub after upgrade, just delete it :)00:05
Random832`prixon: you can put it wherever00:05
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Jordan_Ujavahelp: You are completely wrong. Please read up on how grub2 differs from grub legacy.00:06
`prixonoh, so also in a media partition that will be an ntfs one?00:06
pikkachuJordan_U: http://pastie.org/pastes/3866216/text00:08
MirkoKa`prixon: yes, but note this: the VM can become extremely slow if the .vdi is on an "internaly fragmented" NTFS volume. It doesn't  happen often in my eperiences but it happens. I too have my VMs (VBox) on an NTFS drive.00:09
javahelpJordan_U: You're right! Sorry, I still have GRUB :[00:09
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javahelpnow back to my question: how do i get these infernal embedded java clients to work in firefox >.<00:11
era878whats the best way to setup a RAM disk00:12
Jordan_Upikkachu: That shows that there are no boot files on the XP partition, (but the fact that it says " Boot files:        sudo bash ~/Downloads/boot_info_script*.sh" for the Windows7 partition means that theres clearly a bug in the script somewhere).00:12
MirkoKaera878: sudo mount -t tmpfs none /path/to/mountpoint00:13
pikkachuJordan_U: it's not Windows XP00:13
Guest16634how do I install the nvidia-legacy driver?00:14
Jordan_Upikkachu: Well your Windows 7 install is clearly missing a System partition.00:15
pikkachuJordan_U: I'm installing kernel 3.0.0-17 again and check if it works00:15
pikkachuJordan_U: I have no idea what you mean00:15
Jordan_Upikkachu: Windows 7 installations by default use *2* partitions, one for the bootloder files called the "System" partition, and one for everything else. You appear to have only one partition.00:16
MirkoKaGuest16634: on 12.04  "nvidia-96" is the package for the old driver00:16
pikkachuJordan_U: please ignore sdb*00:17
javahelppikkachu: Why not just use a VM for XP?00:17
pikkachuJordan_U: I don't remember it asking or trying to create more than one partition, but it's one and it works00:17
`prixonMirkoKa, if it gets slower, we can defragment the partition :) although that requires windows, cause I haven't found a defragment application for ubuntu00:17
pikkachujavahelp: please ignore me00:17
pikkachuJordan_U: what does os-prober should output?00:18
javahelppikkachu: you are very rude to those trying to help you!00:18
MirkoKa`prixon: well, yes, no, as I said "internaly fragmented". that is the $BITMAP and MFT datastructures. the built-in defragmenter doesn't handle these00:18
pikkachujavahelp: that's just your interpretation00:18
Jordan_Upikkachu: Something like "/dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain"00:19
Jordan_Upikkachu: I don't know why os-prober isn't finding your Windows 7 System partition, because it does appear to have the correct files, so let me walk you through adding a custom menu entry for it.00:20
pikkachuJordan_U: I see, do you have any idea why it doesn't find anything? Can you figure out how early removing of old kernel would lead to this exactly?00:20
pikkachuJordan_U: ah ok00:20
`prixonwhat would be a good filesystem format for a media partition to which I download files and store music? If I use ntfs it gets very fragmented I guess..00:20
OerHekspikkachu, maybe it is related to reiserFS, sda200:21
Jordan_U`prixon: For use with linux only, ext4.00:21
pikkachuJordan_U: there's no separate 'System' partition, you can be sure, it's all in one single partition00:21
drvanonAfter i had some trouble with the only user being out of the sudo group i now can't (smb)share files any more because i have no acces to /var/lib/samba/usershares, how can i get that acces back?00:21
pikkachuOerHeks: I have no idea what you mean00:21
pikkachuJordan_U: will reboot now to check if old kernel fixes stuff, brb00:22
`prixonthere's nothing that works both for linux and windows except ntfs/fat32?00:22
MirkoKa`prixon: please don't get confused now :) NTFS if perfectly fine for a shared partition. it's just that in *rare* cases virtual machines can become slow if they are stored on NTFS00:22
javahelp`prixon: FAT for files under 4 gb :] (this is a joke)\00:22
`prixonthanks MirkoKa :)00:23
`prixonbut I'm still afraid of fragmentation because of all the download and deleting of files. or that's nonsense?00:23
OerHeks`prixon, Ext2Read is a windows utility to read ext2/ext3/ext4, writing is not recommended00:25
ubuntuhello00:26
MirkoKa`prixon: I have my music, videos, pictures, ebooks and VMs on NTFS volumes, except from the mentioned *RARE* problem with VMs (which I probably shouldn't have mentionen) I don't have any problem.00:26
ubuntuany body here00:27
Jordan_Uubuntu: No.00:27
era878is there a way to limit ramfs from growing too big (not using tmpfs)00:27
ubuntuHello Jordan00:27
drvanonhello ubuntu00:27
`prixonhehe00:27
ubuntudrvanon hi00:27
`prixonit's good that you mentioned it, because that's a problem I was worried about and forgot to ask00:27
drvanonubuntu can you help? me?00:27
d8bhattaHi,  -bash: locate: command not found , how can make work locate?00:27
ubuntuye asure00:28
MirkoKaera878: sudo mount -t tmpfs -o size=200M none /path/to/mountpoint will create a 200 MB ram disk00:28
drvanonAfter i had some trouble with the only user being out of the sudo group i now can't (smb)share files any more because i have no acces to /var/lib/samba/usershares, how can i get that acces back?00:28
Jordan_Uubuntu: Hi. You should change your nick to something less confusing, you can do that by typing "/nick new_nick_here" (without the quotes).00:28
ubuntuok sorry00:28
BlueProtomanIf I upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04, will I have to reinstall all of my software?00:28
ubuntuletme change it00:28
ubuntugiveme sec00:28
`prixoncause I wanted to create a media partition and was afraid it would get awfully fragmented00:28
d8bhattai,  -bash: locate: command not found , how can make work locate?00:28
OerHeksBlueProtoman, usually not.00:28
era878MirkoKa: but tmpfs is does not grow dynamically and it can use the swap00:29
BlueProtomanOerHeks: Will I lose any of my files?  And what would I have to reconfigure?00:29
d8bhatta-bash: locate: command not found , how can make work locate?00:29
Jordan_U!upgrade | BlueProtoman00:29
ubottuBlueProtoman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade00:29
d8bhattaanybody pls suggest me!00:29
Jordan_U!patience | d8bhatta00:29
ubottud8bhatta: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:29
matsei wonder if it's possible to let midnight commander show file sizes in "human readable" format (MB, GB) and not kb?00:30
OerHeksBlueProtoman, allways backup important data, further no explicit reconfigurations needed, AFAIK00:30
pikkachuJordan_U: it seems it won't work reinstalling the old kernel00:30
irule"device eth0 entered promiscuous mode ; device eth0 left promiscuous mode" and eth does not work, after upgrade, it used to work great before, how may I fix this?00:30
Jordan_Upikkachu: Run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/custom.cfg" and copy/paste this into it http://paste.ubuntu.com/970418/plain/ then reboot to test it.00:30
BlueProtomanOerHeks: Noted.  OK, I'm going to upgrade now.00:30
pikkachudoes anyone know how to make os-prober find my windows 7 partition again?00:30
pikkachuJordan_U: it asks me to login into LP00:31
IdleOnepikkachu: sudo os-prober | sudo update-grub00:31
d8bhattaJordan_U:bottu: the chat is moving so fast that my text hiding and thought that it will be out of sight from you guys...so just repeating the text!00:31
MirkoKaera878: it does grow dynamically (it only uses what's needed) and yes, it can be swapped out. is that a problem your your situation (which is what?)00:32
IdleOnepikkachu: sudo os-prober & sudo update-grub00:32
argiefd8bhatta, i think it is part of mlocate packadge.  try sudo apt-get install mlocate00:32
pikkachuIdleOne: that's what I'm asking, how to make that command work00:32
IdleOnepikkachu: run the command00:33
IdleOneit works00:33
CjasterHello all00:33
pikkachuIdleOne: and it's not '&'00:33
CjasterJust joined00:33
era878MirkoKa: I am running a server off the ramdisk and do not want it to be swapped out because it could cause a major speed reduction00:33
Jordan_UIdleOne: The problem is that os-prober is not detecting the Windows partition for some reason (and running os-prober on its own does nothing but display the OSs that it finds, grub-mkconfig runs os-prober itself and parses the output so running os-prober before update-grub is not needed).00:33
pikkachuIdleOne: it works for you? not me? what makes you think I didn't run? sorry, just ignore me00:33
pikkachuJordan_U: I can't read your paste00:34
d8bhattaargief:  finally it says ,locate: can not stat () `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory00:34
Jordan_Upikkachu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970418/00:34
cincinnatusPrecise Pangolin seems to be very glitchy when installing grub on a raid array (on a dell XPS desktop)00:34
IdleOneJordan_U: I'll go back to be quiet :)00:34
Ali_nzhey all00:34
pikkachuJordan_U: what's the long hexa?00:34
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Ali_nzIf I have a directory /home/al/cameras and I have a spare disk /dev/sdb how do I mount that disk and make anything writeen to /home/al/cameras actually get stored on /dev/sdb ?00:35
argiefd8bhatta, try: updatedb00:35
MirkoKaAli_nz: /dev/sdb would be the whole media, you need to create a partition first00:36
Ali_nzMirkoKa: ok. format the disk?00:36
Jordan_Upikkachu: The filesystem UUID (Universally Unique IDentifier) of your Windows partition.00:36
argiefd8bhatta, you gonna need a sudo before that :-)00:36
MirkoKaAli_nz:  use the Disk Utility00:36
KM0201Ali_nz: it might be easier to create a folder on sdb, and hot link it in your home folder... (i'm assuming these are big images)00:36
d8bhattaargief: yes I put that00:37
Ali_nzKM0201: 200k or so each i guess00:37
pikkachuJordan_U: hmm you already checked it right? ok will reboot and check...00:37
Ali_nzit says fdisk /dev/sdb is GPT00:37
d8bhattait works..thanks argief:00:37
argiefd8bhatta, locate creates a db of all ur files once a day.  It's runs as a cron job in the background, so u wont even know it.  but for the first time u need to run it ur self, or wait a day for the cron job. :-)00:38
Ali_nzKM0201: whats hotlink?00:38
KM0201link/hotlink.. maybe i used the wrong word00:38
KM0201but.. short cut it.00:38
Ali_nzKM0201: how do I check the disk is formatted?00:40
Jordan_UAli_nz: sudo parted -l00:40
KM0201Ali_nz: fdisk or gparted00:40
Squall5668Hey guys, quick question. If i restart a server using the reset button, it will wait in the grub menu until i press enter. Is there a way to stop that? so that no matter what happens, it will still boot with the first option00:40
Ali_nzext4 - ok so its partitioned00:40
Ali_nznow how would I mount it at boot and link it to /home/al/cameras?00:41
itaylor57KM0201, there are not shorcuts in this room lol00:42
argiefSquall5668, you need a "default" option set in grub.conf00:42
Squall5668hm, ill read about that00:42
argiefSquall5668, and a timeout00:42
BlueProtomanIs Precise Pangolin worth upgrading to from Ubuntu 11.04?00:42
Squall5668i probably have a both though... it does boot automaticly if i reboot it correctly. It's just the reset button that gets it stuck at grub :P00:43
KM0201itaylor57: lol00:43
pikkachuJordan_U: it worked, windows booted up successfully (although grub hanged on a bit with the wine color background before windows started to boot up)00:44
Ali_nzKM0201: ok - mounted it00:44
Ali_nznow i need to link it00:44
Ali_nzhow link?00:44
Jordan_Upikkachu: Great.00:44
audro hai00:45
pikkachuJordan_U: what solution do you propose? Do you think upgrading to precise may have os-prober working properly?00:45
KM0201Ali_nz: if its mounted, just create a folder on the new partition, then right click it and choose "make link".. and then put the linked folder inside your home folder.00:45
BlueProtomanAnyone?  11.04 to 12.04 worth it?00:46
pikkachuJordan_U: I mean, it's not the ideal solution but it works fine. Do you think I'm better off keeping it this way till I upgrade to Precise?00:46
Ali_nzKM0201: im in terminak00:46
argiefSquall5668,  sounds like it forces u to select an option because it was not cleanly unmounted.  Maybe a stupid question, but if u are there to press the reset button, why cant you stay 5sec and press enter?00:46
Ali_nzKM0201: cli00:46
KM0201Ali_nz: not sure how to do it w/ command line00:46
pikkachuJordan_U: it's really odd what happened...00:46
Jordan_Upikkachu: Yes, I would keep it as for now and file a bug report.00:46
KM0201Ali_nz: i'm sure google will turn it up00:46
pikkachuJordan_U: ok then... thank you very much for you valuable help!00:47
Squall5668argief, hmm... i set up the server at a friends home in swiss and told him to press the reset button... it wasn't fun making him connect a monitor to check what happend :)00:47
Jordan_Upikkachu: You're welcome :)00:47
era878How do you fix "This driver is activated but not currently in use"00:47
Squall5668argief, is there a way around that?00:48
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argiefSquall5668,  so u r running a headless server?  Ubuntu?00:48
mongoif I have an upstart job that needs to have the lo interface up but should be started before failsafe as it provides network interfaces what should I do a starts on?00:48
filo1234Squall5668: is it normally00:48
Squall5668argief correct00:48
aviswhy does port 708 leak packets with closed GUFW on openvpn ?  udp00:48
MerlynKorrif i roll back to a previous version of linux ubuntu will it keep all my data?00:48
mongoI'm guessing local-filesystems and started dbus?00:49
Squall5668filo1234, i didn't quite get that00:49
neo____network interface post-up is notworking , i'm trying to execute script that overwrites resolv.conf00:49
filo1234Squall5668: you have to modify /etc/grub.d/00_header00:49
itaylor57MerlynKorr, there is not roll back00:49
filo1234Squall5668: check statment recordfile at the and of that file00:50
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MerlynKorris there anyone else here that can assist with the issue?00:50
mongoneo____: you are probably fighting the resolver00:51
MerlynKorrbecause there was a menu that was there on shift hold on the bios screen.00:51
neo____mongo, if I ran the script manually it works00:51
mongoneo____: what are you trying to set in resolv.conf, you can do must in network-manager or in /etc/network/interfaces00:51
filo1234Squall5668: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:51
MerlynKorrsorry itaylor5700:52
Squall5668filo1234 thanks, ill check it out00:52
neo____mongo, post-up is written in /etc/network/interfaces under iface00:52
mongoneo____: any changes you make to /etc/resolv.conf will be overwritten, you should use the daemon to make changes00:52
mongoneo____: add in dns-* statements in interface00:52
mongoI assume you are just trying to set some name servers et?00:52
neo____mongo, dns-* doesn't work too,  which daemon I should use?00:53
Ali_nzmeh I go to create symbolic link and it says file exists00:53
MerlynKorrwill a rollback keep all the data i have on 12.04?00:53
mongoneo____: what are you trying to set?00:53
Ali_nz  "sudo ln -s /home/mobotix/cameras /mnt/disk2"00:53
mongoneo____: can you paste your interaces on paste.bin?00:54
neo____mongo, just echo "namserver ip" > /etc/network/interfaces00:54
mongoneo____: dns-nameservers 172.22.53.12 works great for me00:55
MerlynKorrok, thanks all for the help.00:56
mongoneo____: is this a dhcp interface?00:57
`prixoncan anyone explain in a basic way what's the difference between debian and ubuntu?00:57
Squall5668filo1234, looks like that's it! a bit scared to check since my friend is asleep but can't see why it wouldn't work. Thank you00:57
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EvilResistance`prixon:  age of the repositories, how up to date the programs are, etc.00:58
EvilResistance`prixon:  Ubuntu 12.04 contains newer packages than Debian 6 (aka Debian Stable) has00:59
EvilResistance`prixon:  sometimes that sacrifices some stability for more up-to-date programs and functionality, but...00:59
OerHeks`prixton, the support00:59
EvilResistancethat too00:59
`prixondoes ubuntu or debian do things differently from one another?00:59
EvilResistance`prixon:  in what sense?01:00
mongoubuntu is based on debian unstable, the goals are diffrent, ubuntu is mostly about the ultimate user experiance, debian is more about open software, ubuntu is based on debian01:00
mongoin a nut shell01:00
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`prixonI just saw two clips on youtube, both comparing file transfer speed, ubuntu vs windows7, and debian vs windows7. and it turns out ubuntu is slower than windows which is slower than debian. and I wondered what could be the source for this01:02
Fyodorovna`prixon, I would say with 100's of distro's running linux that is is a bit hard to really lock that down, at least that is my opinion.01:04
spaceneedleJust installed Ubuntu on my desktop and 3d unity doesn't work . Using Nvidia Geforce 6150se graphics.  Anybody else have problems with Nvidia?01:06
Fyodorovnaspacebug-, have you updated completely and looked in additional drivers?01:06
spaceneedleyes.01:07
`prixonI tried asking a question earlier in the linux channel, and couldn't get a straight answer. I read some websites' benchmarks comparing windows and linux in many different aspects, and in most cases, windows uses the same hardware better than linux. and I wonder how come? if usually people say that linux does things better01:08
extorIs there any way besides dante(and squid which I imagine is very hard to config) that will enable me to run a socks server in a VPS with say 10 IP addresses?01:08
bazhang`prixon, this is not the channel for such comparisons01:09
bazhang`prixon, try #ubuntu-offtopic01:09
`prixoncool01:10
fishcookerhow to mount manually ecryptfs01:10
gryextor, there is #squid if you need help with this one; it seems bit popular to me.01:10
fishcookeri've no luck with it01:10
fishcookerit happen after i encrypt my home folder01:10
escottfishcooker, there should be instructions in your $HOME01:10
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extorgry squid works well with http01:11
Trian3stefg: Are you still here?01:14
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martii:)01:17
adisonwindow create01:19
xtuhi, i want to know the relationship between xorg , gdm and gnome01:19
martiixtu: ??01:19
Trian3I'm having trouble with creating a bootable USB drive.  I'm following some instructions as found on http://www.backtrack-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Persistent_USB but have now reached a stopping point.  Specifically, the instructions state "as we are using files from isolinux with syslinux they will be named incorrectly and be in the wrong locations."  This is followed by some instruction on how to fix this.  However, the source files t01:19
Trian3hey refer to don't exist, so I'm unclear how to proceed at this point.01:19
FloodBot1Trian3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:19
Krenairargief_, hi01:19
Trian3Didn't mean to flood01:20
xtumartii: well, i want to install a custumrized desktop env on ubuntu server?01:20
Krenairargief_, I found some messages in syslog from around the time I last had that issue: http://pastebin.com/gn6mYmM401:20
martiixtu: xorg is standalone graphical interface - gdm is login manager and gnome is window manager01:21
martiixtu: the only thing you need is xorg01:21
Floyd42hello01:21
escottxtu, xorg does the drawing on the screen but doesn't have widgets (buttons and the like), gnome is a large project that uses gtk to draw the widgets and makes a full desktop environment, and gdm is the graphic login tool built from gtk and used by the gnome environment (although you can use other display managers as they are called)01:21
martiiTrian3: search for lili on the web - this will do everthing for you01:22
xtumartii, so if i install theses three things in my os, then i will get a desktop env?01:22
chris_0076Hello all, so today I tried to update from 11.04 to 11.10 using the update manage. The upgrade went just fine until the reboot (it got stuck on the ubuntu screen for about an hr then I gave up). I proceeded to reboot many times and still nothing. So, as a fix I decided to download an burn a copy of 11.10 (md5 was ok and burn was good) and I ran it and it gave ubi-part error 141 and then locked up(crashed) so I restarted. I then tri01:22
chris_0076ed again and it would not let me upgrade, it just gave the option of overwriting my win 7 install so I quit. Then I decided that it must be 11.10 so I downloaded and burned 12.04 (again good burn and good md5) and I did a normal install on a separate partition. So, now I am here, is there a way that I can merge the settings from my other partition (that does not "work") to this one that does. (my data partition is separate)01:22
chris_0076oh wow... I wrote a book >.>01:22
martiixtu: latest ubuntu used lightdm instead of gdm01:23
chris_0076TL;DR: I have 2 partitions, 1 with 12.04 and one with a broke 11.04-ish, is there a way to merge them?01:23
martiixtu: but yes - you should be able to01:23
escottxtu, you can just install ubuntu-desktop and it will pull in what you need01:23
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Trian3martii: This is for setting up a bootable USB drive for backtrack.  Will lili still work for that?01:24
xtuescott, yes, install ubuntu-desktop always works, but it is too large.01:24
Fyodorovnachris_0076, not really a full merge but you can save stuff, and pull ppa's and other stuff.01:24
martiiTrian3: should do01:24
escottxtu, ubuntu-desktop is not that much larger than the gnome desktop would be. if you want something lighter you can try lubuntu01:24
xanguaTrian3: martii for backtrack support /join #backtrack-linux01:24
Fyodorovnachris_0076, is your definition of merge is space then you can resize the partitions.01:25
chris_0076or, I guess since I have so little vested in the 12.04 install, is it possible to recover the other?01:25
martiixangua: good point :)01:25
escottchris_0076, just copy your home directory01:25
Trian3xangua: I wasn't aware of the channel.  I'll check that out now.  Thank you, both!01:25
xtuoh, escott , if i install ubuntu-desktop, it will install many apps for me like liboffice, but i don't need this apps, ?01:25
chris_0076all my data is on a seperate partition01:25
xtuhow can i disable this .01:25
martiixtu: you can't - ubuntu-desktop is metapackage and will install everythin01:26
martiixtu: you can just remove later all the stuff you don't like01:26
xtuoh, understand that.01:26
escottxtu, well you could just install gnome-shell or unity and it should take care of most of the dependencies.01:26
chris_0076So, I guess I will head in a separate direction now, how can I recover the, erm, boot-ability of the other partition?01:26
xtuyes, when i install gnome-shell, it is smaller.01:27
escottchris_0076, you just do grub-install and specify the proper /boot partition01:27
escott!grub | chris_007601:27
ubottuchris_0076: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)01:27
extorGeneraly speaking, which package in ubuntu 12 will fix the following error: "Failed to open "libc.so": libc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"01:28
chris_0076escott, but how can I boot to it now that I have 12.04?01:28
escott!info libreoffice | xtu its optional, does it actually get pulled in with ubuntu-desktop01:28
ubottuxtu its optional, does it actually get pulled in with ubuntu-desktop: libreoffice (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.5.2-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 23 kB, installed size 152 kB01:28
extorEvidently my .deb did not have the prerequisites01:28
dankevhi there. anyone feel like helping a poor, stranded soul?01:30
escottchris_0076, its also likely that those other ubuntu systems are listed in the boot menu01:30
xtuescott, what do you mean?01:30
chris_0076escott, ok, I'll reboot here in just a few mins and look.01:30
chris_0076Thanks ^^01:30
xtuls01:31
dankevon a laptop with win7 installed, i made a new partition and installed Mint (lmde). it was running too hot, so i tried installing ubunto on that same partition, over lmde. now when i get to grub, everything looks right (that is, my options are ubuntu, win7, etc) but anything i pick gives me "error: no such partition"01:33
xtuoh, dose anyone know why kvm dosen't support sound?01:33
martiidankev: too little info to help you01:33
dankevmartii, please tell me what you need. i'm new to linux01:34
VeXii201:35
leloubuntu is logging off at random... is there any way to solve this?01:35
martiidankev: sudo fdisk -l and grub config01:35
Krenairargief_, I just realised that I updated some nvidia packages on friday01:36
xtulelo, what do you mean?01:36
escottlelo, its probably an issue with your graphics drivers01:36
dankevmartii: where do i type that?01:36
escottlelo, are you using proprietary drivers?01:37
martiidankev: terminal01:37
naryfaIf there's anybody advanced here, or if anybody could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to change animation in gnome-shell's js/ui. Anybody familiar with the code?01:37
VeXiii got a ec2 setup and my ssh key is working fine whith the ubuntu user. but i need to extend it to my user. (when i connect whith putty i get a error)01:37
dankevmartii: sorry, i can't even get into ubuntu at all. i'm stuck at grub01:37
leloescott: yes, nvidia01:37
martiidankev: so press e on ubuntu entry01:38
escottlelo, you could try the nouveau drivers it might be more stable01:38
leloxtu: I mean that I'm watching videos or flash and it suddenly blacks out and give me the login screen once again01:38
martiiand tell me what is the content01:38
leloescott: is there a way to do that with a gui?01:38
escottlelo, yes just disable the nvidia drivers with jockey01:38
xtuwow, i am sorry .01:38
leloescott: thank you01:39
leloxtu: yeah :) ty01:39
xtui don't know why kvm don't support sound .01:40
mg_After upgrading to 12.04 I am suddenly unable to press Shift + left Meta + C at once.. Right meta works, and every button works by itself, just not in a combination with two others.. Any ideas?01:40
dankevmartii: hitting e gives me a bunch of words/gibberish i don't understand. it starts with "setparams 'ubuntu, with linux 3.2.0-23-generic' " then a bunch more lines i don't understand01:40
Carth|I recently installed Age of Empires 2 from the disc, but when I try to start a game it can't read the disc. I found a no cd crack but don't know how to install it01:41
martiidankev: thats why I ask you to write it down01:41
dankevyou want all of it?01:41
martiidankev: yep - if it's too much reinstall ubuntu - make sure you format linux partition and select MBR for grub installation01:42
dankevmartii: i'll write it down. thanks for bearing with me. i appreciate it01:42
martiidankev: another option is to start livecd and access your linux part from there01:43
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dankevmartii: that sounds easy. what do i need to do to the partition from there?01:43
martiidankev: this might be even better01:43
martiidankev: start livecd and do fdisk -l01:43
martiidankev: I'll tell you what to do next01:44
dankevmartii: thanks. i'll load it up01:44
martiidankev: sudo fdisk -l you must have root access01:44
martiidankev: and it's -L but lovercase01:44
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dankevmartii: thanks for the clarification. i would have put a one01:45
dankevmartii: live cd finally loaded up. starting 'try ubuntu'01:48
martiidankev: god01:48
martiidankev: I mean good :)01:49
dankevmartii: i entered sudo fdisk -l01:50
dankevmartii: it gives me a list of my partitions, along with info01:51
Carth|I downloaded the empires2.exe (no cd crack for Age of Empires 2) but am not sure where to put it to play without the cd. Anyone have any direction for me?01:52
leloyeah... changed to nouveau driver and is still logging off :P01:52
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xtuis ubuntu tv free01:53
dr_jesusyup01:54
MayazcherquoiIs there not a single piece of webcam capture software that allows you to specify a microphone?01:55
escottMayazcherquoi, thats the responsibility of pulse audio. select your input device from the sound preferences01:56
chris_0076ok, escott I rebooted, and the other filesystem was not listed01:56
chris_0076the only options were for this, the recovery, win 7, and the 2 mem test ones01:57
FroodleWent from 10.10 to 12.04.  Unity shows every program name jumbled over toolbar menu (File, Edit, Help, etc.).  Any fix?01:57
escottchris_0076, in that case you would have to either setup your own entries for grub or if you wanted to switch to the other as the boot partition you could reinstall grub with /boot as the other partition01:58
chris_0076escott, how might I do that?01:59
benwalburnI want to set up a linux distro on a flash drive to use when I repair windows. It needs to fit on a 4gb flsh drive and be able to mount within windows so I can use my programs. How should I do this and what OS would you suggest?02:02
escottchris_0076, a couple ways, but it amounts to reinstalling grub. so see !grub for instructions02:02
chris_0076!grub02:02
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)02:02
escott!grub | chris_007602:02
ubottuchris_0076: please see above02:02
bazhangbenwalburn, unetbootin to do it02:02
escottbenwalburn, you cant use the programs from within windows because win32!=unix02:03
bazhangbenwalburn, but that wont allow you to run windows apps within the usb stick02:04
benwalburnno, I just want it to mount the usb stick when windows is running while also serving as a linux distro i can boot into02:04
bazhangbenwalburn, then virtualbox02:05
benwalburnI don't want to run linux within windows02:05
bazhangbenwalburn, what you want is not feasible02:06
ghost_podrian pasarme algun manual de como instalar apache tomcat 7 en ubuntu 11.1002:06
bazhangghost_, english here please02:06
escottbenwalburn, the normal usb sticks made by usb-creator have a fat32 underlying filesystem. you can put whatever data files you want on that fat32 partition02:06
benwalburnescott, so I can boot and transfer files without issue?02:07
ghost_could spend some manual on how to install apache tomcat 7 on ubuntu 11.1002:07
escottbenwalburn, yes. the usb-creator systems are fat32 with a disk image as a single file. when you boot linux the fat32 is mounted and the disk image is loop mounted, but you should be able to access the underlying fat32 partition. you should check on that02:08
benwalburnalright, and which distro should I use? I'm hoping for something lighter than ubuntu that is compatable with most hardware. I was thinking puppy...02:09
bazhangbenwalburn, lubuntu02:10
bazhang!lubuntu > benwalburn02:10
ubottubenwalburn, please see my private message02:10
benwalburngot it, I'll try out lubuntu02:11
benwalburnthank you02:11
xenohi02:11
xenotrying to load ubuntu server on my old pc but its crashing on the install, anyone know why?02:12
ardiannurtest02:14
jvxxeno, Either ran out of ram or bad burn on install cd.02:15
zykotic10ardiannur: fail ;)02:15
ardiannuri guess not..02:15
aartistwhat RAM and Processor requirement is for Ubuntu 12.04 ?02:15
zykotic10!requirements02:16
ubottuHardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu02:16
xenolooks like the PC is up to the job, I'll try the cd, thanks02:17
ardiannurcan anyone help me how to install vga driver ati hd 5470 on ubuntu?02:17
fishcookeri can't handle the bluetooth interface02:23
Hariezghello... you know ubuntu indonesia?02:23
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casper0505no02:24
fishcookeryes02:24
casper0505where is indonesia?02:24
fishcookersomewhere out there02:24
casper0505i like java coffee02:24
HariezgOh yea?? im from central java02:25
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casper0505so you are a big gecko-like animal in java?02:26
bazhang!id | Hariezg02:27
ubottuHariezg: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia02:27
gaelfxI have a Broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card and I installed the STA driver, but my wireless connection is only running at 65Mbps instead of 150Mbps, is there anything I can do to fix it?02:28
ssfdre38is there a way to install do-release-upgrade on 10.04 cause im on a VPS and its not installed02:28
trismssfdre38: update-manager-core02:29
cute_bettonghi i have a bluetooth headset, and it's recognised in ubuntu 12.04 but i can't get any sound to come out of the headphones, can anyone help02:29
Hariezgixconn for xfce?02:29
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Hariezghow to uninstall program on xubuntu 11.10?02:32
EvilResistanceHariezg:  which program are you trying to uninstall?02:32
gaelfxcute_bettong: have you selected it as the sound output device in Sound Settings? Does dound come out from somewhere else when the headset is connected?02:32
ssfdre38what happens if do-release-upgrade cant find a new release and its been rebooted?02:32
cute_bettonggaelfx, thats just it while the headset is connected, there's no option for it in the sound settings, just my HDMI monitor and sound card show up as devices02:33
Hariezg@EvilResistance uninstall gnumeric02:33
EvilResistanceHariezg:  try this in the terminal: sudo apt-get remove gnumeric02:35
EvilResistanceHariezg:  or use Synaptic or something to remove that software, i'm not certain Software Center has an uninstall button (then again i dont use it)02:35
Hariezg@EvilResistance thanks! i'm will try02:36
gaelfxcute_bettong: hang on a sec02:37
cute_bettonggaelfx, okies02:38
pepeehi. does someone knows how to move a partition? I have a advanced format disk, and forgot to leave some space at the beginning of the disk...02:45
evildaemonSo will the old 8.04 preseed iles still work?02:46
evildaemon*files02:46
joe_chowhello02:46
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pepeehi joe_chow02:46
bluegooberCant really move the partition , you would shrink it, leaving space before or after02:48
cute_bettonggaelfx, sorry got dissconnected, can you still help?02:49
RangerMauveHey, I've been getting this error when trying to play MKV files with the default movie player in 12.04. I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight on what to do to fix it. Here it is: http://pastebin.com/rXvWPWQ802:50
pepeebluegoober, you sure?02:50
gaelfxcute_bettong: I'm still looking for information about how to get bluetooth audio going, so...maybe :D02:50
Trian3I'm having trouble booting off a USB drive.  It doesn't appear to recognize it as a bootable device.  When I select that drive as the one to boot from, it moves on to the next device (my HD).  How do I troubleshoot this?02:50
pepeeTrian3, has it worked before?02:50
RangerMauve@Trian3, have you gone into the bootloader in your BIOS to make sure your usb is above your HD?02:51
cute_bettonggaelfx, thank you so much for trying to help02:51
Trian3pepee:  No, I just set it up today.02:51
skorketI'm getting a linker error ('undefined reference __gmpz_init') when trying to compile a test 'hello world' gmp program.  I noticed that in /usr/lib the libgmp.so library is linked to 'libgmp.so.10.0.1'.  Could I be getting this error because of some incompatability between my current version of Ubuntu and the last version I was running?  Current version is 11.10, oneiric02:51
pmitrosUbuntu 12.04 is unusably slow on a quad core 2.9GHz CPU. Switched to xubuntu on one machine, and Ubuntu+xmonad on another. Just figured I'd drop in another vote against Unity, should anyone care.02:51
Trian3RangerMauve:  Yes, it is.02:51
MadpilotI've got a partitioned USB key that won't mount properly and that Disk Util won't reformat. Here's the error msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970576/ - how the heck do I force a reformatting?02:51
pepeeTrian3, I mean, booting from USB in your computer02:51
skorketcode is here: http://pastebin.com/s2pqL5VF02:52
Trian3pepee:  Ah, that's a good question.  I can't say for certain.  All I can tell you is that it's always been quite reliable in the past.02:53
Trian3pepee:  The hardware was top of the line at time of purchase.02:53
trismskorket: you need to put the -lgmp argument after the source file (so: gcc helloworld_gmp.c -lgmp; )02:54
MadpilotTrian3, depending on when "time of purchase" was, booting from USB can be flaky. My older computer, an otherwise very capable six year old machine, won't boot from USB even though it theoretically can...02:54
skorkettrism, fffffffffuuu!  Thank you02:54
Trian3Madpilot: It's about a 3 year old system.02:55
bluegooberPartitions arnt east to move around, they aren't like files in that way, moving usually involves making a new partition copying the old to it deleting the old one,if you need space,in front of it there is no need to move it, justshrink it02:55
pepeeTrian3, do you see the disk somewhere as an option in the boot menu?02:56
pepeeTrian3, what hardware btw?02:56
pepeebluebomber, ahh k, thanks02:56
Trian3pepee:  Yes, I do.  And give me a moment on hardware make/model.02:56
deper29hi, I installed ubuntu 10.04 64 bit, and when I installed my proper video drivers, the resolution of my splash screen and grub turn terrible. is there a fix for this?02:56
pepeebluebomber, I recommend to you that you put the nick of the person you are talking to so it gets highlighted02:58
gaelfxcute_bettong: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset I know it's for older versions, but it's the only documentation for bluetooth audio I could find02:58
pepeeTrian3, should be working. tried the usb in another machine?02:58
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bluegooberIts goober and im on a tab typing02:59
Trian3pepee:  Mobo = nvidia nforce 790i Ultra sli02:59
pepeebluegoober, sorry03:00
pepeeTrian3, brand, model of the motherboard?03:00
Trian3pepee: nVidia nforce 790i03:01
pepeeTrian3, that's the chipset03:01
pepeeTrian3, anyway, if you see the option somewhere, then it should be working03:01
mcookieI require assistance with ubuntu server edition!03:02
Trian3pepee:  found it.  evga 132-ck-nf7903:02
xenoubuntu server crashing on instal, system meets requirements, tryrf 2 different disks, any idea?03:02
gaelfxxeno: how are you trying to install?03:03
mcookieSpecifically with running a ventrilo server03:03
pepeexeno, you mean, the livecd is crashing?03:03
xenoof cd03:03
gaelfxxeno: does it always crash at the same point in install?03:04
xenoit fails on instal03:04
xenocrashed in several places03:04
deper29I follewed the directions here, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml and it kind of fixed it. my splash screen has the proper resolution for the logo, but the screen is the wrong size and doesn't actually fill my monitor. grub is still the wrong resolution as well03:05
xenocrashes on boot loader and network setup03:05
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gaelfxxeno: only those two?03:05
Trian3Is there anything that needs to be in place besides the ldlinux.sys file to make the USB drive bootable?03:05
serdotlinHi, how to display my nouveau driver temp on my conky?03:06
xenoalso on select and instal software03:06
gaelfxTrian3: to make the USB bootable, you need to set the boot flag, but how are you trying to make the USB?03:06
john_116I've got a program on my computer called "fldigi".  It starts up and runs fine but I cannot figure out its location on my computer03:07
gaelfxxeno: did you check the md5 of the iso you downloaded? did you check the md5 of the cd you burned?03:07
xenocame up ok, just got it of the ubuntu site03:07
john_116And search for "fldigi" turns up nothing03:07
OerHeks!sensors | serdotlin03:07
ubottuserdotlin: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.03:07
mcookieIf someone would like to help me with this problem, join me at https://crypto.cat/?c=ventubunt03:08
Trian3gaelfx: Well, I made the partition active.  Is that not the same thing?  I followed that up later in the sequence with the command "syslinux /dev/sdd1"03:08
Trian3gaelfx:  I'm making the USB drive via the instructions found here:  www.backtrack-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Persistent_USB03:08
OerHeksserdotlin, it is not a nouveau temp, just hardware.03:08
Trian3gaelfx:  Everything has worked so far except for this step03:08
ficarraWhen I plug my psp into my computer, this happens: http://imagebin.org/21123703:09
ficarraAnyone know why?03:09
xenocan get base system on then death03:09
serdotlinOerheks, i already install lm-sensors package, the cpu sensors is working  on conky but don't know how to get my nouveau driver temp. Any idea?03:09
ficarraSometimes it works03:09
ficarraBut, mostly that pic03:09
blockylast time I looked I found that linux really has nothing to compete with Search Everything in windows... does anyone know if this is still the case?03:10
gaelfxTrian3: any particular reason you're making it persistent? and have you tried using unetbootin?03:10
L3topnouveau is software serdotlin. It does not have a temperature.03:10
serdotlinOerHeks, I mean my nouveau gpu temp...03:10
paranoidphreakhi everybody, i'm trying to mount a network drive to /media/share..........how do i do that? the share address is: smb://openwrt/8gig%20share/03:10
gaelfxxeno: you mean you did check the md5? I don't know what you mean by "came up ok"03:11
OerHeksserdotlin, lot of conky examples, like this >> http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/398/how-to-setup-conky-a-system-monitoring-tool-for-ubuntu-part-203:11
Trian3gaelfx:  Honestly?  I don't even really understand what the term means in this context.03:11
Trian3gaelfx:  And, no.  I haven't tried unetbootin03:11
pepeexeno, try the alternate cd03:11
xenochecd the disk yea03:11
ficarraAnyone?03:11
Trian3gaelfx: re unetbootin - are you referring to instructions here?  http://www.backtrack-linux.org/tutorials/usb-live-install/03:12
KingBeastHaving problems sharing with samba.03:12
naryfadoes anybody know how to change minimize effect in gnome shell? It minimizes windows to the upper left corner. I'd like to change it.03:12
gaelfxTrian3: persistent USB means that you can keep changes made to the USB after shutdown, but it can make things act pretty weird sometimes03:12
gaelfxTrian3: I wasn't referring to any specific instructions, but you can  use those instructions if you wish03:12
gaelfxTrian3: if you really want it to be persistent, then you should just do a full install to the USB03:13
pepeeficarra, probably a bug. you should file a bug report03:13
serdotlinOerHeks, for cpu temp scripts I use this command> exec sensors | grep "Core 0" | cut -d "+" -f2 | cut -c1-6}C, but for gpu?03:13
Trian3gaelfx:  Well, there are two sets of instructions on the site for a USB install.  unetbootin and persistent03:14
pepeeficarra, that, or doesn't get properly mounted03:14
gaelfxTrian3: I'd go with unetbootin, it makes everything very very simple03:14
gaelfxTrian3: you're just wanting to install from USB, right?03:14
Trian3gaelfx:  Leave it to me to pick the complicated one first...03:14
Trian3gaelfx:  Yes03:15
gaelfxTrian3: yeah, then definitely unetbootin is the way to go03:15
TropolisWhat's the correct way to have new files created by a process with specific permissions/other groups without changing the system default?03:15
pepeeparanoidphreak, from cli: smbmount03:15
gaelfxhonestly, I don't understand why they use startup disk creator instead of making unetbootin the default app for making liveusbs03:15
Trian3gaelfx:  I'll give it a go.  However, I'm concerned that my booting issue isn't with the method of installation, but something else.03:16
ficarrapepee, it isn't doing it right now, and I can't remember exactly what it said, but the little hud popup at the top right would say "volume mounted" in big text, then below it (I think, something like this) "Improper UTF-8" or something.03:16
pepeeparanoidphreak, there should be some other option somewhere03:16
gaelfxTrian3: are you sure that your computer can boot from USB?03:16
jribTropolis: what exactly do you want to do?03:16
john_116I've got a program on my computer called "fldigi".  It starts up and runs fine but I cannot figure out its location on my computer03:16
john_116which I need to be able to tell another program where it is located03:17
dashie_hi, what is the 'proper' way to add more IPs to /etc/network/interfaces03:17
Trian3gaelfx:  Certain.  It's an EVGA 132-CK-NF79 mobo.  (nForce 790i Ultra SLI chipset)03:17
dashie_googling for guides says a ton of eth0:0 :1 :2 etc03:17
pepeeficarra, I remember having a similar problem, but I don't know how did I fix it :/03:17
dashie_but there i think is some ip addr way off eth0 that i remember seeing somewhere03:17
paranoidphreakpepee: thanks.....i'll look into that03:17
pepeeficarra, check the system logs03:17
blockywhen I do a nautilus file search and try to change the results from icons to a list... it performs the search again?03:17
batanzeIn Ubuntu, when I try to execute a binary built with qt, why do I get a "No such file or directory" even after I have installed 32 bit compatible libs (apt-get install ia32-libs)?03:18
pepeebatanze, file a bug report, or write in the current report03:19
xrfangHi , i just upgraded to 12.04 now i cant get usable wifi connection, anyone can help diagnose?03:19
gaelfxTrian3: so when you enter the boot selector, the USB doesn't show up?03:20
navajoxrfang: yes, go to terminal iwconfig03:20
blockydoes this strike anyone else as really poor design?03:20
pepeexrfang, what do you mean by 'cant get usable'? does it work? too slow?03:20
navajoxrfang: then iwlist03:21
Trian3The boot selector that comes up is the BIOS boot selector.  USB shows up there.  I select it, but to no avail.  It tries to boot off that, returns no error, then continues to boot off the HD.03:21
xrfangOk i am typing on my tablet bear wih me pls03:21
pepeeblocky, yes, tell that to the devs03:21
Trian3gaelfx: ^^03:21
gaelfxTrian3: well, try to be optimistic about unetbootin then. lemme know if the problem persists03:21
pepeeTrian3, does it show the brand of the usb drive in the menu?03:21
blockywhich ones, nautilus?03:22
pepeeTrian3, unetbootin is the easy way03:22
Trian3gaelfx:  Will do.  I'll reformat & follow that installation process now03:22
pepeeblocky, gnome, I suppose03:22
Trian3pepee:  Yes, it does.03:22
fishcookerhow to switch from unity to openbox03:22
batanzepepee: let me fire up a 11.x ubuntu VM and see if I can reproduce the issue.03:22
navajoxrfang: if out of range buy usb wifi adapter Rosewill for 15 bucks... extends the range..03:22
navajoxrfang: at newegg.com works great03:23
xrfangNavajo, iwconfig and iwlist wlan0 scanning both ok , see some ap, but cannot associate with any03:23
pepeefishcooker, sudo apt-get install openbox, then reboot03:23
navajofishcooker: I use openbox hold on befor leave give u great link for openbox setup03:23
pepeeTrian3, checked if is marked as bootable? you can use cfdisk to do that03:24
xrfangSignal very good, and if i reboot , i can get connected, but connection willfail after a few minutes03:24
AtStgood evening everyone.03:24
pepeexrfang, checked syslog? also, is the power management enabled in the device?03:24
jseo.03:24
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jseoHelp03:25
pepeehi AtSt03:25
jseoHelp03:25
pepee!ask | jseo03:25
ubottujseo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:25
AtSthi there.03:25
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xrfangWill check now03:25
jseo...03:25
ssfdre38is there a way to get mysql to start up when the server starts up cause it doesnt want to do that anymore03:26
pepeessfdre38, yes, it does by default03:26
ssfdre38its not on my server03:26
AtStGuys, I've configured my system to start on CLI. Thing is: After logging in, is there some way of starting X interface without leaving the CLI 1 logged on my account?03:27
navajowell fishcooker is going to learn the hardway to setup Openbox03:27
pepeessfdre38, you can use update-rc.d to do that, but I've never done it03:27
xrfangPepee, quite a lot insyslog i will try gt it posted...03:27
pepeexrfang, use pastebinit03:27
AtStI mean: After starting X, I can block the account on GUI, but the X proccess will still be runnin on the CLI interface 1 (CTRL + ALT + F1), so anyone can get there, run a CTRL + C and get access to my files.03:28
AtStCan I change this?03:28
pepeeAtSt, you have the vt03:28
mcookieIn ubuntu server edition, I have tried to install a ventrilo server, which is untarred as a .conf and a few executables. I tried running one of these executables, but it returned "No such file or directory". Help?03:28
navajowww.troll.ws03:28
AtStWhat's this, pepee?03:29
pepeeAtSt, X server should be in tty803:29
navajowww.troll.ws imagebin paste03:29
jribnavajo: why are you posting this?03:29
jribAtSt: you can probably use "exec"03:29
pepeeAtSt, CTRL + ALT + F1 is tty103:29
AtStWell, pepee, it goes on tty8.03:30
AtSttty7, I mean.03:30
zykotic10jrib: do you think it would be possible to start x from screen?  i highly doubt it, so you exec idea is probably a lot more likely.03:30
AtStexec, jrib? like: exec x?03:30
jribzykotic10: I think you can, that would be another way I guess03:30
Brustofski-Fansudo amdconfig --initial  for a single monitor what is for a dual monitor03:30
jribAtSt: exec startx, sure03:31
jribAtSt: I don't know if that will work, try it03:31
Con_Artistssfdre38, Do you have root (sudo) access to said server?03:31
navajoIf u have to use another session for x then something is more then likely wrong with ur ubuntu setup..03:31
bencccan I tell gedit which syntax highlighting to use with a comment at the top of a text file?03:31
AtStWell, pepee, I know about this. Problem is. I log on X, then block the account (on GUI) and then go away from the pc.03:31
jribAtSt: maybe it's not a solution to your issue.  There may be a way to circumvent it03:31
AtStEven with the account blocked on GUI, pepee, someone can go to tty1 where I will still be logged, cause I can't unlog there without closing X.03:32
pepeeAtSt, hmm you don't have gdm or lightdm?03:32
AtStjrib, I won't try now, cause if I do I'll have to close the X interface (and IRC).03:32
jribAtSt: yes, why not just use something like lightdm and never log in at tty1?03:32
AtStpepee, I don't even know what gdm and lightdm are.03:33
ssfdre38Con_Artist, yea03:33
Trian3Just finished unetbootin install.  (Damn, that wasy easy)  Rebooting now...  wish me luck!03:33
Tropolisjrib: I have a process running that constantly updates a bunch of text files, I want to give some users the ability to edit those files, but whenever the process updates or creates them, their permissions change to default (755)03:33
jribTropolis: do you have control over the process?03:33
pepeeAtSt, the program that will let you select your desktop environment03:33
AtStjrib, I want to start on CLI and then, sometimes (if I need to), log on X.03:33
jribAtSt: probably best solution is to either log out or lock the tty when you start x03:33
Con_Artistssfdre38, Then try this: "$ sudo update-rc.d path/to/SQL defaults" and change path/to/SQL to whatever is appropriate03:33
blockyhow can something as fundamental as file searching be so poorly implemented?03:33
AtStAh, pepee. I could edit the grup file for starting on X, already, as well. But I really do want to start on CLI.03:34
pepeeAtSt, you don't need to do that. you can switch to tty1-6 if you need it03:34
macaI have lost the subject that we are speaking. What happen, AtSt?03:34
AtStjrib, lock the tty? How can I do that?03:34
jribblocky: ask a real question please.  If you've found a bug or have a feature request, then file it at bugs.ubuntu.com03:34
jribAtSt: uhhh... maybe vlock?03:34
pepeeAtSt, also, tried something like "startx && exit"03:34
pepee?03:34
AtStpepee, I tried this one. Gave me some error.03:35
nrdbjust installed 12.04 on a VM ... still unable to configure it to use more than 4 workspaces ... tried compiz and gconf-editor to change in ... no go!  ... it shouldn't be hard to do this (and it wasn't before)... how do I get more than 4 workspaces?03:35
AtStjrib, vlock? Never heard about it, I'll seek info.03:35
xrfanghi, I have pasted syslog here: http://paste2.org/p/201032403:35
xrfangNetworkManager cannot associate with AP, don't know why.03:36
blockyjrib, all I'm asking for is a user friendly file search application. nobody seems to know of one, and google is yielding little03:36
jribblocky: nautilus has file search capabilities03:36
xrfangalso, now I am using wifi without problem, because I just rebooted.   I am sure that after a while the connection will fail.03:36
Tropolisjrib: Yeah, I have root/complete control03:36
pepeexrfang, I hate NM :/03:36
xrfangbut ubuntu use that ... :(03:36
AtStI'll try it now. See ya later, and thank you too, jrib and pepee.03:36
pepeexrfang, you can remove it and install wicd03:37
navajoxrfang: it requires phrase or password03:37
jribTropolis: well you can modify umask in your program and the group you execute as (sg would do this in bash).  Or you can approach it at the filesystem level and use Access Control Lists but this would be location-specific instead of program-specific03:37
xrfangpepee: is there any document for this? and, can wicd integrate with ubuntu's applet?03:37
Atterallam I correct in saying that [[ `ls -A $directory` ]] would evaluate to true when the directory is not empty because `ls -A $directory' standard output is not empty ?03:38
blockyI'm going to see if I can get search everything to run under wine03:38
jribAtterall: that seems umm... not ideal... try #bash03:38
macanrdb, for the workspace problem, here your are: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity03:38
tarvidon reboot after upgrade to 12.04, screen is blank and numlock will not toggle03:39
AtterallI am = P.. it's not ideal I know.. it's the second week of a begining bash class so the bashFaq's answers are a little bit beyond my level of understanding03:39
pepeexrfang, no, I don't think it will integrate. you can remove networkmanager from synaptic, and then install wicd (requires internet)03:39
Tropolisjrib: it's being controlled by supervisord, which I think lets me set the umask. What would the ACL method be?03:39
navajowww.goosh.org  -Unofficial shell for google.com03:40
Tropolisjrib: As ideally I'd like to give some users access to a specific directory, and others access to a different one, both subdirectories of the main process03:40
jribTropolis: with ACLs you can set default permissions on files created somewhere (see « man setfacl », « man getfacl »)03:40
xrfangpepee: if I do so, and I think wicd only manages wifi? how about my eth0? have to do all these on command line ? :-)03:40
pepeetarvid, only after reboot?03:40
pepeexrfang, yes, only wifi, sadly...03:40
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jribTropolis: why can't you just give the users appropriate permissions at the directory level?03:41
xrfang... any other alternatives?03:41
tarvidI said yes to reboot and now I cannot get into the machine03:41
pepeexrfang, you can try to fix NM too03:42
tarvidthe live CD does not come up either03:42
pepeexrfang, or install and try connman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29782/trying-network-managers-replacement-connman03:42
xrfangI was thinking of doing a complete new install of 12.04, because I found that if I switch to another account, the problem disappeared, I thought it is some personal setting problem, but sadly, the problem reappeared after a while (randomly).03:43
Tropolisjrib: The directory is owned by the process, and its group is set to the relevant group, with read-write permissions. But when the process creates new files, they're unwriteable to members of the required group, as they're created w/ default 755 with the process as the group03:44
ianananananWhere on earth did synoptic disappear to, and why can't I find it in 12.04?03:44
jribTropolis: is there more than one level (i.e. do you need a recursive solution)?03:44
jribiananananan: you can install it if you don't have it03:45
Tropolisjrib: Nope, just one level for now03:45
navajoxrfang: you played with profile and changed settings...03:45
ianananananjrib, are you telling me synoptic's no longer shipping with ubuntu distros?03:45
xrfangnavajo, actually no.03:46
jribiananananan: I don't know.  If you don't have it on a default install, then I suppose not.  It would be duplicating functionality provided by ubuntu software center anyway I imagine03:46
xrfangthis problem happened after 2 things: 1) upgrade to 12.04; 2) I bought a new wifi router and reconfigured my home network03:46
xrfangbecause the signal is not strong enough.03:46
anlaryeiananananan: you have to install synaptic on 12.04 (and even 11.10 before it if you did a fresh install)03:46
ianananananjrib, I suppose the redundancy is a fair point, but I do miss it.03:47
jribTropolis: well then another alternative is to setgid the directory, change the group ownership of the directory to the group you want files in to be created with and then just change the umask appropriately03:47
xrfangand I am pretty sure the wifi hardware is ok, because all other devices connected without problem, eg. windows laptop and my mobile phone etc.03:47
jribiananananan: sudo apt-get install synaptic :)03:47
anlaryei like synaptic so i reinstalled it on my system03:47
Tropolisjrib: Hmm, that sounds like it could be what I want03:47
navajoxrfang: this is the reason I dont play  with ubuntu 12.04.. to many problems with Unity and Gnome 3..03:47
anlaryeits always good to have multiple ways of doing something03:48
pepeexrfang, you can try dpkg-reconfigure too03:48
jribTropolis: ACLs are certainly more expressive though (you could do multiple groups for example)03:48
ianananananjrib, do you know the terminal command for enabling universe offhand?03:48
xrfangpepee, you mean reconfigure networkmanager?03:48
greg_loganhey, anyone have some time to help diagnose a 10.04 dhcp client issue?  I can see the packets hitting the dhcp server, and replies going out, but the box never picks up the IP :(03:48
jribiananananan: edit /etc/apt/sources.list in your favorite text editor03:48
pepeexrfang, yes03:48
xrfangI will try that after this wifi session fails :)   btw, I also noticed that if I tried to do some download by downthemall (just to test bandwidths), the probability of failure increases. i.e. after transfering a lot of data rapidly it tends to fail suddenly03:50
nrdbmaca, that suggested I install myunity ... I did ... but it did nothing!... it shows the workspaces as 4x2 (with no option to change them)... but they are still as 2x2.... this is crap... I used to be able to set this so easy.03:50
Tropolisjrib: I'll read the manpage for setgid now, and possibly look into ACL's if it's not quite right. Thank you very much for your help.03:50
pepeexrfang, well, some router seem to be incompatible with ubuntu :/03:51
jribTropolis: to setgid, do: chmod g+s /path/to/directory03:51
xrfangthat's also a posibility...03:51
pepeexrfang, checked if power management is enabled?03:51
jribTropolis: you'll still need to change umask though (so that group can write)03:51
ianananananjrib, "package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate"03:55
ianananananjrib, updated sources n everything. also ran apt-get update. no dice.03:55
jribiananananan: run « sudo apt-get update » after enabling universe in /etc/apt/sources.list03:55
ianananananjrib, probably added incorrect sources.03:56
jribiananananan: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list if you want03:56
Khmeroganyone know which network the linux mint channel is in?03:56
ianananananjrib, will do. found a dated documentation page, i think it's inaccurate.03:56
aaasanyone ever have a computer periodically have the wrong time even when left on for an extended period03:57
pepeeKhmerog, google says #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:57
nrdbjust installed 12.04 on a VM ... still unable to configure it to use more than 4 workspaces ... tried compiz and gconf-editor and myunity to change it ... no go!  ... it shouldn't be hard to do this (and it wasn't before)... how do I get more than 4 workspaces?  after something like 3 releases you think this stuff would have been worked out.03:58
L3topaaas: wrong as in a few minutes, or a different time zone03:58
odix anybody know why php wouldnt work after installing on ubuntu ? says its installed, using whereis php03:58
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pepeeodix, "wouldnt work" as in...?03:59
maca nrdb, for the workspace problem, here your are: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity03:59
Khmeroglol thanks pepee i should have googled it myself03:59
ianananananjrib, http://www.pastebin.com/aYJihZhY03:59
pepeeyeah heh03:59
aaasL3top wrong as in off hours +min03:59
odixit just doesnt work when i use it in webpages03:59
odixin html03:59
ianananananjrib, last two lines were ones i added.03:59
macanrdb, with MyUnity software you can set a number of workspaces...03:59
odixand I can't figure out why03:59
pepeeodix, you need to configure your web server04:00
nrdbmaca, no!!!!04:00
jribiananananan: that's correct.  Now sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy synaptic04:00
odixpepee: if i used the package manager and installed both of them, why wouldn't it auto pick it up ? always has before04:00
pepeeodix, the update could have changed the config files04:01
ianananananjrib, there we go. What was that after the ampersand?04:01
maca=== nrdb???04:01
jribiananananan: apt-cache policy just gives info about a package -- it didn't actually /do/ anything04:01
macayou asked me how to get more than 4 workspaces, no?04:02
ianananananjrib, it did actually update the packages as o-04:02
ianananananjrib, I now realize I hadn't been connected to the web. Damn liveCDs.04:02
ianananananjrib, Whoops!04:02
nrdbmaca, it does allow any change!   and what it does show (4x2) isn't what the what I have. (2x2)04:03
nrdbmaca, I have tried ever method (all 4) listed on that page you gave me and none change the number of workspaces.04:05
macaok, i undesrstand now04:06
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ztag100anyone here who uses zsh?04:06
nrdbmaca, i also just tried to logout/login and its still the same.04:06
jribztag100: ask an actual question please04:06
tucemiuxhow do I get my volume icon back!04:06
macasorry ztag, i dont use it04:06
ianananananAny suggestions as to how I might restore a broken windows recovery partition on a laptop?04:06
ztag100jrib: I was going to ask if anyone knew anything about it04:06
tucemiuxiananananan, use the CD - you might have to reconfigure ubuntu if you have a dual boot, thatll be 50 clams please04:07
jribztag100: questions like those aren't really productive on irc.  The answer is just "yes" and you probably plan on asking your real question after that.  We prefer it if you just ask your actual question from the beginning04:07
violinapprenztag100: hardly a question04:07
marm0tAnyone know how to bring up the transparent keyboard control map in 12.04. I've seen it in videos but don't know how to launch it.04:07
wellpaidrichguyunity04:07
iananananantucemiux, I have neither a CD nor a iso for a boot. Thanks, sony, for producing the shittiest of laptops and support.04:08
marm0twhere in unity?04:08
* iananananan hands tucemiux 50 clams, begrudgingly04:08
wellpaidrichguysorry compiz fuzion04:08
macanrdb, at the moment i haven't got some idea for now.04:08
macaso... I hope someone helps you04:08
marm0tok, not sure I have compiz installed. I'll check04:08
tucemiuxiananananan, but why would you want to restore a recovery partition?  If the recovery partition is for you to restore windows, it's like asking a doctor to cure himself04:09
iananananantucemiux, I'm fixing a laptop for someone likely to break it again. It'd be nice if I could just tell him to boot the recovery partition as opposed to manually reinstalling every time.04:10
ianananananalso I'd really rather not touch win7 partitioning. I understand it's obnoxious.04:10
tucemiuxiananananan, does win7 have restore points?  I havent really touched win7 much04:11
chris_0076ok guys, I am still at a loss of being able to access my other install04:11
violinappren!ot | iananananan: ask in #windows04:11
ubottuiananananan: ask in #windows: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:11
nrdbmaca, this is a significant backward step... since unity was forced on us... been waiting a long time for this to be fixed.04:12
iananananan#windows exists? anyways tucemiux understand that most ship with a recovery partition as it's less work than cds, and they tend to suck.04:12
cimabueHi04:12
chris_0076in short: I have 3 partitions, 1 with 12.04 and one with a broke 11.10 and one with my data04:12
chris_0076I am unable to boot to the 11.10 one04:13
Markus___whats up people04:13
wellpaidrichguysup04:13
violinapprenchris_0076:  is there any entry for it in grub? any errors?04:14
gaelfx!notunity | nrdb04:14
ubottunrdb: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic04:14
gaelfxunity hasn't been forced on you, there are other DE's available in Ubuntu04:14
wellpaidrichguymacbuntu in 12.4 will it work04:14
ianananananIf something's got the power to mess with recovery partitions, should I fear pluggin the hdd into another computer and booting a ubuntu livecd for the sake of faster virus scanning w/clamtk?04:14
fishcookeri've no luck with BT04:15
fishcookerdevice04:15
chris_0076violinappren, even before I installed 12.04 the 11.10 would not boot04:15
fishcookerit is on mode04:15
fishcookerBUT still can work well04:15
chris_0076but since I have installed 12.04 the grub entry for the 11.10 is not there04:15
violinapprenchris_0076: describe exactly what happens04:15
violinappren!enter  | fishcooker04:15
ubottufishcooker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:15
chris_0076well, nothing, the 11.10 is unbootable04:15
chris_0076I installed 12.04 hoping to upgrade04:16
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chris_0076well, the 11.10 was the original upgrade04:16
chris_0076actually, let me get what I posted before04:16
violinappren!gq | chris_007604:16
ubottuchris_0076: Are you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.04:16
chris_0076http://pastebin.com/VmtwHyDc04:17
wellpaidrichguyi know this is off topic but im new to irc where is a general chat room in freenode04:17
anlaryewellpaidrichguy: do a /list to find chats in IRC04:17
wellpaidrichguythank you04:18
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wellpaidrichguydidnt work04:18
wellpaidrichguyim using empaty as my client04:18
chris_0076violinappren,  http://pastebin.com/VmtwHyDc04:18
gaelfxwellpaidrichguy: sudo apt-get install irssi is the cure for that problem. Empathy only has superficial irc support04:18
wellpaidrichguythanks04:19
violinapprenchris_0076:  press shift when it starts to boot, then select recovery and see if it boots/what error messages you get04:19
gaelfxwellpaidrichguy: after it installs, type 'irssi' in a terminal, then /connect ubuntu, then /join #ubuntu04:19
marm0tor xchat if you want gui client for irc04:19
wellpaidrichguyi was actually hoping for a terminal client04:20
anlaryewellpaidrichguy: irssi is a CLI dedicated IRC client. Generally the best way to use IRC is with a dedicated client.04:20
wellpaidrichguyteminal is fine04:20
chris_0076violinappren, there are no errors in recovery mode04:20
violinapprenchris_0076: then what happens when you process to boot?04:20
chris_0076the 11.10 is not an option, and 12.04 boots just fine04:20
chris_0076the 11.10 has not booted since I installed it04:21
joshuahello04:21
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tucemiuxanyone knows of a way to get my volume icon back?04:21
Guest70015hi04:21
Guest70015test04:22
Guest70015alright04:22
Guest70015how do i change my nick04:23
pepee/nick newNick04:23
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insulinahello, I have two jvm on my ubuntu server, how do I say to tomcat to use oracle jvm?04:23
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violinapprenchris_0076: did you press shift when 11.10 starts to boot?04:24
Ryan_Ryan^ÂÊÎÔÛâêîôûCcGgHhJjSsWwYyˆ^??????????????????????????????????????????????????^??04:24
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chris_007611.10 is not an option04:24
Ryan_Ryandammit why04:24
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violinapprenchris_0076: not an option in the boot menu?04:25
newJoshj04:25
chris_0076I tried to update grub but there was a lock error04:25
chris_0076violinappren, yes04:25
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joshfinaly fixed the nick thing thamks04:25
joshlist04:25
violinappreninsulina: prepend the directory to PATH in .bashrc, for example : PATH="/path/to/oraclejvm/:$PATH"04:26
chris_0076sorry if I am being unhelpful, I am just a bit irritated =/04:26
Fyodorovnachris_0076, do you have the bootscript from running the bootrepair?04:26
violinapprenchris_0076: run update_grub in 12.04 and see if it picks up the other installation04:26
joshhooe do i get a list of channels04:27
violinapprenjosh: /list04:27
pepeei wouldn't do that...04:27
joshjosh: /list04:28
chris_0076violinappren, http://pastebin.com/rwe3mv1R04:28
chris_0076no, it did not find it04:28
joshi typed /list04:28
joshnoothing04:28
chris_0076I can mount the 11.10 partition though04:28
alusionIs there a stable screen saver for 12.04 ? Gnome-screensaver has frightening reviews04:28
Fyodorovnachris_0076, If you have that bootscript it is a excellent debug tool takes out a lot of the guessing.04:29
violinapprenchris_0076:  it's not picked it up, when do you need to boot it? to get data from there? you could mount the partition under 12.0404:29
pepeejosh, look in the server tab04:30
chris_0076my intention was to upgrade the 11.10 partition04:30
joshtext based04:30
chris_0076the data is all on its own partition04:31
chris_0076Fyodorovna, what bootscript?04:31
violinapprenchris_0076: upgrade it to what? you already have a working 12.04 installation04:31
chris_0076I am upgrading the 11.1004:31
violinapprenchris_0076: to ?04:31
chris_007612.0404:31
violinapprenchris_0076: why not use what you have on other partition?04:32
chris_0076can I move all of my system settign over?04:32
chris_0076settings*04:32
violinapprenchris_0076: since you originally upgraded this from 11.04, such an upgrade will be problematic04:32
mauriamhola ;)04:33
Fyodorovnachris_0076, It is in the boot repair app but follow this to make one. Using a live ubuntu cd download this script extract it to your desktop and run this command and pastebin the results text http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/     sudo bash ~/Desktop/bootinfoscript04:33
abc1Hola04:33
violinapprenchris_0076: you could use  a live cd to wipe your home directory on 12.04 and copy your 11.04 home dir, but.. i wouldnt recommend that04:33
violinappren!es | mauriam04:33
ubottumauriam: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:33
chris_0076violinappren, then what would you recommend?04:33
violinapprenchris_0076: redoing the configuration manually :)04:34
joshsorry i was working im usng a text based client04:34
chris_0076violinappren, it is a separate partition btw04:34
violinapprenchris_0076: ive seen people spending so much time trying to fix broken upgrades04:34
chris_0076 /home04:34
joshim looking for the command to see availible networkds04:34
josh*chanels04:34
violinapprenjosh:  /join #freenode04:35
mauriamok thx :)04:35
chris_0076so is there a way to just set the mount point of that partition to be my home folder?04:35
Fyodorovnachris_0076, you can run that script from the 12.04 install as well same method04:35
violinappren!fstab | chris_007604:35
ubottuchris_0076: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:35
chris_0076ok then, is there a way to get the windows manager from 11.04?04:36
chris_0076er04:36
chris_0076let me rephrase that04:37
chris_0076I need to reinstall ubuntu classic04:37
jribchris_0076: what ubuntu version?04:37
chris_0076I am running 12.04, the classic version I am talking about was from 11.0404:38
tonsofpcs.win 3504:38
Logan_chris_0076: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel04:38
tonsofpcs.win 3504:38
jribchris_0076: I would recommend you move on to a different (but similar) environment.  For example: xfce or lxde04:38
chris_0076well, I am trying xfce right now04:38
chris_0076and it is unpleasant04:38
chris_0076not sure if I am just irritable right now because of other problems or what >.>04:39
Logan_chris_0076: The gnome-panel package will give you the Ubuntu Classic environment.04:39
violinappren!nounity | chris_007604:39
ubottuchris_0076: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic04:39
abc1Yeah, I would like to go back to that earlier program too. Believe it was call Ocelot??04:39
jribabc1: oneiric ocelot is the name of an ubuntu release04:39
Logan_abc1: No, that's the name of Ubuntu 11.04. You want to install gnome-panel if you want a GNOME 2-like desktop environment.04:40
chris_0076ok, brb04:40
IanWizard-CloudHow can I save the guest acct setup.  Alternatively, where is the guest acct generated from?04:40
violinapprenIanWizard-Cloud: you can't, it gets erased when you log out04:40
violinapprenIanWizard-Cloud: create a normal user and use ir04:41
violinapprenit04:41
IanWizard-Cloudviolinappren: hence my alternative question04:41
gaelfxwhy does software-center lose the search field whenever you select a package?04:41
violinapprenIanWizard-Cloud: simply add a new user account using the "user and groups" tool04:41
chris_0076this is worse than xfce04:41
chris_0076black bar at bottom and part of the top is cut off04:42
chris_0076plus, no shutdown/time applet04:42
chris_0076and no right-click on the panels >.>04:42
Logan_chris_0076: Alt+Super+Right Click04:42
tucemiuxunity, kde...04:42
IanWizard-CloudI am perfectly capable of setting up a new user.  I'm just asking where the guest account is generated from.  Is it truly creating a new account each time.04:43
tucemiuxgnome!04:43
fishcookeri've installed Full circle magazine from ubuntu software center04:43
gaelfxJockey fails to activate fglrx drivers, but software-center says they're installed, do I need to do something special to actually put them to use?04:43
abc1It was from about 3 years ago and served me just fine. Lots of things to play with, but much less time wasting than XP.04:43
fishcookerwhere is those item installed?04:43
violinapprenIanWizard-Cloud: temporarily, yes and its home directory is based on tmpfs (mounted in RAM)04:44
jribfishcooker: if you know the name of the package, dpkg -L NAME_OF_PACKAGE   will list the files installed by NAME_OF_PACKAGE04:44
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chris_0076any clue as to why part of the screen is missing?04:44
chris_0076seems as if the screen is shifted up ~10 px04:44
gaelfxchris_0076: can you see the top-panel04:46
chris_0076yess04:46
chris_0076yes*04:46
gaelfxwell that sucks04:47
chris_0076but like I said, it seems shifted up ~10 px04:47
teratomaso i found some debs in ubuntu/pool/universe/ on a website.  i dont see the package names when i search in aptitude or synaptic.  how do i use them?04:47
chris_0076so the top is clipped and the bottom has a black bar04:47
fishcookerthanks jrib04:47
fishcookerit works04:47
violinapprenteratoma: dpkg -i packagename,  but you should search the PPAs first04:48
rodhashPidgin → Accept certificate for ows.messenger.msn.com?  The certificate for ows.messenger.msn.com could not be validated. The certificate claims to be from "*.opendns.com" instead.04:48
rodhashHi guys... Why I'm getting this message on pidgin? And is it safe to accept it?04:48
_xan_chris_0076: I would probably have ubuntu regenerate the xorg.conf04:48
violinappren!ppa | teratoma04:48
ubottuteratoma: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:48
gaelfxhow can I tell if the fglrx drivers are in use? Jockey says they aren't active, but software center says they're installed04:48
violinapprenrodhash: not safe04:48
derekchiang1Hello guys, I just used "svn checkout" to check out a bunch of source files, but where can I find them?04:48
violinapprenrodhash: seems opendns is intercepting your connection04:49
violinapprenderekchiang1: in the same directory you checked them out it04:49
violinapprenderekchiang1: in*04:49
rodhashviolinappren, is there any safe way to fix it?04:49
violinapprenrodhash: stop using opendns04:50
rodhashodd... bunch of people used to say it's a great and free dns server... : (04:50
derekchiang1violinappren: I see them.  Thanks a lot!04:50
violinapprenrodhash: and it also intercepts google searches04:50
rodhashviolinappren, any suggestion of a dns server?04:51
violinapprenrodhash: none, just use a local caching dns server like dnsmasq04:51
rodhashok, thx04:53
rabbi1my ubuntu 10.04 says i have broken packages, what to do ? :(04:54
violinappren!pastebin | rabbi104:54
ubotturabbi1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:54
cdm10rabbi1, please paste the message you get to that pastebin.04:54
cdm10rabbi1, when and how did it tell you you had broken packages?04:55
rabbi1cdm10: while clicking on check in update manager, also asked for Ubuntu CD, i inserted and then said "Install Updates". Now its not showing that message....04:56
cdm10rabbi1, please open a terminal and run < sudo apt-get -f >04:56
cdm10rabbi1, Actually, that command may be wrong, it's been a while...04:57
rabbi1cdm10: but the problem started with fonts, i have reset gnome cofig and its font and also installled core fonts from scratch..... now when ever i install a new font, entire gnome fonts are replaced by new one.... :(04:57
violinapprenrabbi1: cdm10: apt-get -f install04:57
cdm10violinappren, thanks :) I'm rusty.04:58
violinapprenrabbi1: were you trying to upgrade your system using update manager?04:58
cipher__is there any way for me to adjust my bass / treble?04:58
Oprtzhi guys04:58
moderatorcipher__: have you tried the knobs on your speakers?04:58
rabbi1violinappren: nope, i am not upgrading at all, currently with 10.0404:58
cipher__moderator, with alsa04:58
cipher__:/04:59
Oprtz!help, i lose all hope because my Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is not working under ubuntu 12.04, it disconnect after 5 minutes, i am on latest kernal 3.3 but still has problems, any one know how to solve the issu? thanks04:59
ubottuOprtz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:59
rabbi1violinappren: that command gave me list of packages which are no longer required and asking to use apt-get autoremove ,,, should i do ?04:59
cdm10rabbi1, could you paste that into a pastebin?05:00
cdm10!pastebin | rabbi105:00
ubotturabbi1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:00
violinapprenrabbi1: yes, and no broken packages?05:00
rabbi1violinappren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970699/ ... no broken package05:01
abc1I could upgrade to win7 or win8(billion) or whatever. But I have been upgrading since win3 and it hasn't gotten much better:) The only thing which makes windows tolerable is 3rd party addons like Search Everything and AutoHotkey.05:01
violinapprencipher__: https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/webupd8    .. has pulseaudio-equalizer05:01
cipher__thanks05:01
violinapprenrabbi1: then no problem i guess05:03
moderatorabc1: Do you have a question about ubuntu? This is not the appropriate setting for concerns about other OS configurations.05:03
rabbi1violinappren: but any new font installed replaces the entire gnome font .......05:03
violinapprenrabbi1: how do you install it?05:03
rabbi1violinappren: i just double click and opens in a font viewer , where i get install font option and just click on that05:04
violinappren!bug > Oprtz05:05
violinapprenrabbi1:  i no longer use gnome so won't be of much help with that05:06
rabbi1violinappren: unity? that's ok. thank you .... so no problem with packages right..... so no problem to my OS....05:07
violinapprenrabbi1: xfce05:07
violinapprenrabbi1: yeah seems you have no broken packages05:07
rabbi1I will try try to completely install gnome from scratch ....05:07
moderator!gnome > rabbi105:08
ubotturabbi1, please see my private message05:08
blockyis it possible to set a custom keyboard shortcut to launch a custom lens05:09
moderator!shortcut > blocky05:10
ubottublocky, please see my private message05:10
enavHI fellas!  anyone here can point me to a tutorial to install suPHP on ubuntu LAMP  ???05:10
Chris_0076ugh, the instant I get this fixed I vow to never upgrade again05:10
rabbi1moderator: i know its default, but can i get a fresh gnome ?05:10
abc1moderator: Sorry, just voicing my opinion.05:10
blockymoderator, what do I type for command to launch a lens?05:11
moderatorenav: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP05:11
moderator!lamp > enav05:11
ubottuenav, please see my private message05:11
thewheathey guys, anybody know how to debug custom theme issues that prevent it from loading? it doesn't work in my main user account, but i created a new user and it works in that one. i've been using this main user account probably from 10.04 upgrading all the way to 12.0405:11
rabbi1adding gnome3 on 10.04 is okay ?05:12
enavbut i saw that doc already it have nothing about suphp05:12
moderatorrabbi1: is this 10.04 server or 10.04 desktop?05:13
rabbi1moderator: desktop 10.04 - 8405:13
Logan_moderator: Why would he install GNOME 3 on a server?05:13
rabbi1moderator: desktop 10.04 - * 64 Bit05:13
moderatorLogan_: You would be surprised what people do05:13
blockyanyone know how to launch a lens via terminal or from a keyboard shortcut?05:14
moderatorrabbi1: It is possible. See tutorial: http://hackers001.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-1004.html05:15
Logan_rabbi1: It's not in the repository for lucid, so it's unsupported in this channel.05:15
rabbi1Logan_: then, how could i solve my font problem ? either got to have gnome2 freshly installed and how ? else move to gnome3....05:16
manzoorHi guys : my virtual machine  is not detecting WIFI connections so is there any way  to make it?05:16
moderatormanzoor: What is the OS on the native environment and VM?05:17
rabbi1Incase, i have to upgrade to 12.04 what are the backups i need to take ?05:18
cdm10manzoor, a virtual machine probably shouldn't detect any wireless connection, that is handled by the host machine. The virtual machine can connect to the Internet via a virtual network created by the host machine.05:18
moderator!backup > rabbi105:18
ubotturabbi1, please see my private message05:18
violinapprenmanzoor: the VM has no access to the wireless card at all05:19
manzoor@moderator : base OS is ubuntu and i have installed rhel5 on VM05:19
moderatorviolinappren: That is not true. VMs detect the hardware of the native OS.05:20
manzoor@cdm10  : thanks for the valuable advise.05:20
uglyoldbobso ive been working an a usb device that emulates a cd drive05:20
Flynsarmywhy does alt+grave appear to be hardcoded into unity? I set the scale plugin to use it in CCSM but unity just overrides with the most useless functionality i've ever seen. No conflict warnings or anything so i dont think there's anything else in CCSM using that keyboard combo05:20
cdm10moderator, this is usually untrue.05:20
cdm10moderator, the virtual machine presents the guest OS with generic hardware to fulfill the functions it needs, like a virtual Ethernet adapter, which it connects to a virtual LAN. The VM can't see the host's hard drive, for example -- just a virtual hard drive or partition -- unless you specifically allow it to, which is usually unwise.05:21
moderatorcdm10: This is correct. But certain hardware is readily available to the VM environment. Among many, wireless hardware is usually one of them.05:22
violinapprenmoderator: manzoor: some of the hardware, and what virtual machine are you using?05:23
zimbyShumway is going to be Mozillas replacment for flash05:23
gaelfxis xv the codec that uses UVD for Radeon cards?05:23
moderatorviolinappren: @moderator : base OS is ubuntu and i have installed rhel5 on VM05:23
manzoor<moderator>  <violinappren> : i have installed rhel5 on vm..05:24
cmcintoshany USBVGA gurus on?05:24
cdm10manzoor, what virtual machine software?05:24
violinapprenmoderator: what VM software? kvm, virtualbox, xen, .. ?05:24
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manzoor<violinappren> VM..05:24
devishis there any email client which is compatible with MS exchange server in linux05:25
Brustofski-Fanubuntu 12.04 i installed gdm and gdm themes... How do i change the themes??05:25
violinapprenmanzoor: how do you start the virtual machine?05:25
cdm10manzoor, VMware?05:25
violinapprendevish: evolution05:25
devishviolinappren: any plugin required?05:25
violinapprendevish: not that i know of, but i dont use fat email clients05:26
manzoorVMware workstation 805:26
gaelfxI can't install anything because software-center is "Searching", how can I make it stop?05:26
cmcintoshsendmail is nice05:26
cdm10devish, are you just looking for email support, or calendar + contacts + everything support with Exchange?05:26
uglyoldbobso is there a such thing as anorexic software?05:26
violinapprenmanzoor: NOT possible05:27
manzoor<violinappryen> i start the VM by double clicking the VM icon..05:27
devishcdm everything05:27
violinapprenmanzoor: you cannot access physical PCI cards inside the guest OS05:27
FlynsarmyWhy does unity do its best to make things difficult? Why is there no autocomplete in alt+f2!? If i type /home/use and hit tab it should autocomplete to /home/username like gnome 2 run menu did. the current functionality is ridiculous05:27
foolshmanzoor:  I've only seen devices on the usb bus be available to the guest. All other devices for the guest are virtual.05:27
gaelfxI tried to cancel the "Searching" thing, but it still hasn't finished cancelling05:28
violinapprenuglyoldbob: "thin" clients nowadays are web interfaces05:28
GhostWolfdoes anyone here know how to make a 3 image gif thats not animated? im wanting to add 2 images to a text. like a name with 2 images on the front and end of the name05:28
kulhasI am using ubuntu server, geoserver with tomcat + oracle jvm 7, but when I restart service tomcat it fails, but tomcat app's still works, logs are ok, is there a oracle log missing ? how can I get everything working good05:28
kulhas?05:28
manzoor<violinappren> : thanks for the info..05:29
cdm10GhostWolf, do you mean one big image?05:29
jean_bratthere is a strange problem with the network manager, I have a wired connection and i have created a new wireless network to share my internet connection with the Phone,05:29
jean_bratwith normal configuration : with only LAN is connected and no other network setting configured, if network connection breaks and it comes back again. It will automatically re-connect to the internet.05:29
jean_bratHowever with the Wireless network configured it does not work that way, if the connection breaks it will not come back on. after many trial and errors the only solution is to delete all the configuration from the network managaer and create a new wired connection and start all over again. is this a bug? what could be the possible solution to this?05:29
FloodBot1jean_brat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:29
violinappren!enter | jean_brat05:29
ubottujean_brat: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:29
cdm10devish: Then Evolution's probably the way to go.05:29
manzoor<foolsh> thanks..05:29
devishi see i have thunderbird by default, will it do05:29
GhostWolfcdm10, well not one big image, but in one image yes. i need to make it small cause its for an icon but not an .ico file name05:29
gaelfxI pkilled software-center, but when I restart it, it's still cancelling "Searching"05:29
cdm10GhostWolf, try GIMP, it's an image editor.05:30
foolshmanzoor: Just do a dual boot install you won't be disappointed trust me05:30
moderator!wireless > jean_brat05:30
ubottujean_brat, please see my private message05:30
GhostWolfcdm10, i been trying to do that but i have no clue how to do it in gimp. im not a graphics type person to do this05:30
cdm10gaelfx, the problem is that the APT daemon is still busy -- is this a machine you can easily reboot?05:30
cmcintoshcdm10, technically its a graphical image manipulation program05:30
Underscores__I am trying to install ubuntu on a system in which the CD drive is borked and has a broadcom wireless chipset. This appears to cause a kernel panic when I boot off the USB key05:30
Underscores__Ignore the unnecessary comma.05:30
devishgaelfx: don't use software-center, thats too heavy , as i see it05:30
cdm10cmcintosh, I know what GIMP is..05:31
GhostWolfim already in the #gimp channel but i never done something like this05:31
manzoor<foolsh> my next option is dual boot only..05:31
cmcintoshcdm10, messing with you05:31
cdm10manzoor, can I ask you what you're trying to accomplish?05:31
cmcintoshGhostWolf,  i think you can do it using layers05:31
moderatorUnderscores__: Are you saying the hardware is causing a kernel panic when you boot from the USB?05:31
violinapprenGhostWolf: 'convert' which is part of of the imagemagick package05:31
cdm10cmcintosh, oh, sorry, now I've got it :)05:32
violinapprenGhostWolf: it's a command line tool05:32
gaelfxcdm10: could, but I guess it finally got unbusy05:32
cdm10cmcintosh, he doesn't want an animated GIF05:32
cmcintoshthen wtf would you use gif?05:32
GhostWolfcmcintosh, i've tried that i just don't know how.05:32
devishone more thing does the does task bar do not auto hide in 12.0405:32
Underscores__moderator, I'm not exactly sure what's causing the panic. I have part of the stack trace avalable, but it seems to be in network initialization05:32
GhostWolfviolinappren, what?05:32
gaelfxdevish: yeah, but the issue was that I had started it already and I couldn't use anything else to install packages while it was still searching. It's ok now though, so no worries05:33
cmcintoshi thought thats all people used gifs for was dumb avatar animations05:33
violinappren!info imagemagick | GhostWolf05:33
ubottuGhostWolf: imagemagick (source: imagemagick): image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 8:6.6.9.7-5ubuntu3 (precise), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB05:33
gaelfxcmcintosh: untrue, they are also great for lolcatz05:33
GhostWolfviolinappren, i've rather use gimp05:33
GhostWolfits what i have right now05:33
violinapprenok..05:33
moderatorUnderscores__: Can you not unplug the wireless device, use an ethernet, and boot from USB?05:33
GhostWolfand im not making an animated gif. im making an icon thats an gif extension cause its for a chat room i go to05:34
manzoor<cdm10> my virtual machine have to detect WIFI connections..05:34
Underscores__moderator, I suppose I should have added the detail that the target is a laptop; I could try to disable it from the BIAS05:34
cdm10violinappren, it seems like he just wants to take three images and use them in one larger image.05:34
xuserxhi05:34
xubuntuhola05:35
Underscores__Basically what happens is that ubuntu complains that it can't find the broadcom firmware and then I get acall stack that looks like it has to do with initializing the card anyway05:35
cdm10manzoor, do you just want your VM to have Internet access?05:35
xubuntunecesito ayuda05:35
moderatorUnderscores__: I'm a little confused. Is this error during the ubuntu setup?05:35
cdm10!es | xubuntu05:35
ubottuxubuntu: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:35
Underscores__moderator, yes, during the livecd's boot time05:35
xuserxi installed oracle java 7 and now i have a error and i cant install any programs using software center05:35
cdm10GhostWolf, while this is not really what it's for, and it's a rather poor tool, you may want to try LibreOffice Drawing. It might be a little bit easier than GIMP to learn for simple jobs.05:36
xuserxhow can i remove oracle java7 ?05:36
manzoor<cdm10> no. it has to detect the WIFI connections05:36
GhostWolfcdm10, ok well i might try that if this person in #gimp can't help05:36
violinapprenxuserx: pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get install -f05:36
violinappren!pastebin | xuserx05:37
ubottuxuserx: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:37
cdm10manzoor, may I ask why?05:37
moderatorUnderscores__: Aha, and the broadcom device is physically unremovable I assume? If so, BIOS may be your only way... or maybe try another ubuntu ver and upgrade after it's installed. I'm not sure why the wireless device is giving you a panic error without knowing more...05:37
kulhasxuserx: did you try to setup openjdk as default? and uninstall depends how you install it I think05:37
Underscores__moderator, that's more or less the case05:37
Underscores__I think the wireless chipset is integrated into the machine05:37
xuserxi cant remove oracle java 705:37
cmcintoshi would take the drive out and put it into a pc that has a working cdrom05:37
xuserxi have a error05:37
cipher__xuserx, irony at its finest.05:38
cdm10xuserx, how was this java installed?05:38
kulhasxuserx: how did you install it ?05:38
manzoor<cdm10> i want to know weather its possible in virtual machine or not ?05:38
violinapprenxuserx: open a terminal, type: sudo apt-get install -f05:38
xuserxok05:38
violinapprenmanzoor: why ask again if you got an answer already?05:38
cdm10violinappren, I was just making sure he was all set.05:39
cdm10manzoor, it is, but only in certain VM software, and only if it's USB -- and even then, I'm not really qualified to help you.05:39
kulhaswhere is the logs of oracle java 7 ?05:39
xubuntuhello I need help, I have no sound. I do not speak English I have to be with the translator and no one in the other chats05:39
Underscores__moderator, I? will see if I can disable the offending card05:39
manzoor<violinappren> ya i know  i am just answering cdm1005:40
xubuntuhello I need help, I have no sound. I do not speak English I have to be with the translator and no one in the other chats05:40
moderatorUnderscores__: Best of luck! If I come up with more ideas, I'll let you know.05:40
violinappren!sound | xubuntu05:40
ubottuxubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.05:40
Underscores__I'll keep on trucking05:40
Underscores__Trying to get the neighbor lady converted to Ubuntu05:40
manzoor<cdm10>  <violinappren> thanks05:40
firefish5000Can anyone help me chose some OSs to try, Ones different from the usual remixes?05:41
violinappren!ot | firefish500005:41
ubottufirefish5000: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:41
abc1Anyway, Ubuntu used be a great OS. About three years ago. Bye.05:41
moderatorOprtz: Are you asking about different versions of Ubuntu? If so, what are you looking for in your distro.05:42
xuserxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/970729/05:42
xuserxcan you help me?05:42
firefish5000sorry, thanks.05:42
cocolosCUDA error: no CUDA-capable device is detected? I just installed 4.2 sdk and such and drivers what did I do wrong? I restarted X and such05:42
Underscores__Is there a way I can blacklist the broadcom driver at boottime from the livecd?05:43
foolshcocolos: try 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' and reboot05:43
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moderatorUnderscores__: I'm not really sure. I would expect not, short of something along the lines of custom firmware or physically pulling it...05:43
cocolosfoolsh: thanks let me try05:44
atdiehm12.04 is substantially slower on my netbook than 11.10 was.  is 12.04 simply past where netbook specs make sense? or should I try removing unity and running xfce or something?05:44
cdm10atdiehm, have you tried Unity 2D?05:44
violinapprenxuserx: try: sudo dpkg -r oracle-java7-installer05:44
Underscores__moderator, perhaps if I dig into the image I might be able to fix it; I mean it is on a USB key05:44
Khmerogwhat isLinux RPM file?05:44
atdiehmcdm10, I'd expect that to be the default on a machine with integrated graphics….. let me check05:45
violinapprenKhmerog: packages for redhat/fedora/centos05:45
cdm10Khmerog, RPM is a software package file for RPM-based operating systems, of which Ubuntu is not one.05:45
Khmerogim downloading open office for ubuntu im trying to install it using the terminal as practise05:45
Khmerogohh05:45
Underscores__Which reminds me, I need to get the x86_64 version of 12.04; I hosed my installation during an upgrade from 9.10, haha05:45
violinapprenKhmerog: will NOT work on ubuntu/debian05:45
Khmerogthere is RPM or DEB05:45
xuserxthe same error05:45
cdm10atdiehm, nope, integrated graphics can run Compiz -- but badly. You may have to manually try Unity 2D.05:45
atdiehmway better05:45
atdiehm11.10 didn't do that?05:46
Underscores__Isn't there a tool called alien for dealing with RPMs?05:46
Underscores__?alien05:46
Underscores__Err, looks like I don't know ubottu's syntax05:46
teicahhow do I zoom desktop in precise?05:46
moderatorUnderscores__: Commands are preceded with "!"05:46
moderator!alien > Underscores__05:47
Underscores__!alien05:47
ubottuUnderscores__, please see my private message05:47
cdm10!ccsm | teicah05:47
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)05:47
ubottuteicah: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz05:47
cocolosfoolsh: nothing :(05:47
atdiehmthe 2d-shell process uses the same ram as compiz though :-p05:47
cdm10atdiehm, it's not the RAM that's the issue -- glad I could help though :)05:47
violinapprenxuserx: try with adding: --no-triggers05:47
atdiehmcdm10, sure… just was making note05:47
cdm10teicah, I hope that helps you -- it's a bit hard to navigate that tool but you can enable desktop zooming there.05:48
sanduz2why does traceroute6 (ubuntu default) not work but traceroute does? it gives me 'unknown host' ...im guessing its working ipv6? maybe not... either way, man has no info on it05:48
Cantidehow do i add a shortcut to the launcher via the command line?05:48
atdiehmI have a few family members that will probably call me as they get prompted to upgrade, and then wonder why their machines are slower…. so having the answer is good05:48
Cantidei installed something that doesn't show up in the dash05:48
foolshcocolos: pastebin the output of 'lspci'05:48
xuserxviolinappren: xuserx: try with adding: --no-triggers > how can i do that?05:48
cocolosfoolsh: http://pastebin.com/vF22V85v05:49
IsmAvatarhey guys, I need some help getting Ubuntu 10.10 to pick up my external hard drive. Nothing's showing up in dmesg05:49
teicahHow do I change the background from the command line?  10x05:49
moderatorIsmAvatar: Does lsusb show the device?05:50
xuserxanyu ideas how can i remove oracle jdk7?05:50
violinapprenxuserx: sudo dpkg -r --no-triggers oracle-7-installer05:50
xuserxany*05:50
xuserxdpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching oracle-7-installer05:50
violinapprenxuserx: what was the pastebin link you gave before?05:51
xuserxany ideas?05:51
IsmAvatarmoderator: no. It shows 8 things, 4 of them are usb hubs, one's the mouse, one's an I/O Interconnect, one's the printer, and one looks like it's probably the speakers05:51
foolshcocolos: nvidia GTX 470?05:51
cocolosfoolsh: yes05:51
xuserx sudo apt-get install -f http://paste.ubuntu.com/970729/05:51
moderatorIsmAvatar: This is probably not a good sign. Is it detectable on other OS environments? If so, I may have a suggestion.05:52
violinapprenxuserx: sudo dpkg -r --no-triggers oracle-java7-installer05:52
IsmAvatarmoderator: I'm listening05:52
Eh4ckhola05:52
xuserx subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 105:53
xuserxErrors were encountered while processing:05:53
xuserx oracle-java7-installer05:53
xuserxthe same error05:53
moderatorIsmAvatar: This may not work, but sometimes gdm interfers with the detection of usb devices. Try doing this: "sudo service gdm restart", then see if lsusb lists it. NOTE: This will log you off and restart your session, so save everything first.05:53
cocolosfoolsh: any ideas?05:53
foolshcocolos: Did the nvidia developer driver 'devdriver_4.2_linux_32_295.41.run' install smoothly?  You have to drop to a tty console and stop gdm first before you install it.05:54
cocolosyea it did05:54
dragonsanyone familiar with virtualbox?05:54
cdm10dragons, somewhat05:54
cocolosdragons: a little05:54
cdm10dragons: So, between a little, and somewhat, it looks like you're in the right place :P05:54
IsmAvatarmoderator: I rebooted the system with the device plugged in, and it did not pick it up. I assume that's the same as restarting gdm, unless it loads the device after gdm05:54
dragonsi have a problem running pecise pangolin and installed virtualbox 4.1 from the repositories, i cannot see the usb devices, and i am part of the vboxusers group05:55
moderatorIsmAvatar: This is not the same.05:55
kookaboorraZTE 3G USB modem constantly being disconnected on Ubuntu and disappear, I've to remove the USB modem and stick it back, but there's no problem on Windows, any ideas why is this happening?05:55
cdm10dragons, I've never used USB devices in VirtualBox, so I doubt I can help you -- but in particular, what sort of device are you using?05:55
IsmAvatarmoderator: ok, I will try05:55
dragonsi am just trying to connect a usb hard drive.05:56
moderatorIsmAvatar: This is just from my experience messing around with USB devices not detected by Ubuntu. It may or may not fix your problem.05:56
cdm10dragons, you could connect that hard drive to the host, and use a virtualbox shared folder to share its contents with the virtual machine..05:57
IsmAvatarmoderator: gdm: unrecognized service05:57
moderatorIsmAvatar: Are you logging in with GNOME?05:57
dragonsi didn't think of that.. i could do that..05:57
IsmAvatarmoderator: no, just whatever's default with ubuntu 10.1005:57
IsmAvatarunity05:58
IsmAvataretc05:58
foolshcocolos: pastebin 'lsmod' and the file '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'05:58
violinapprenxuserx: rm sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-java7-installer.postinst05:58
violinapprenxuserx: then try last command again05:58
IsmAvatarmoderator: I guess the answer you're looking for then is 'lightDM'?05:59
moderatorIsmAvatar: I'm not too familiar with lightDM, if that's what you're using... so there is no guarantee my potential fix would work restarting that manager. This is only for users that use gdm and can't detect usb devices.06:00
dragonsany one have fun this 5 de mayo?06:01
cocolosfoolsh: http://pastebin.com/ntx5DKWz http://pastebin.com/rhvK45zq06:01
violinapprendragons:  did you enable USB in the VM settings? did it prompt to install extension pack?06:01
rabbi1gnome: Depends: swfdec-mozilla but it is not going to be installed06:01
cocolosfoolsh: can you pm me ill brb and will probably be hard to see what you wrote when I get back. Thanks.06:01
dragonsit did.06:01
rabbi1I am trying to install gnome,  i get ^ message ....06:01
moderatorIsmAvatar: Am I wrong, or wasn't lightDM released for 11.10+?06:02
xuserxi sloved my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/121226/how-to-completely-remove-a-oracle-jdk-that-didnt-install-properly06:02
violinapprendragons: did you add a "filter" for your desired device in VM USB settings?06:02
xuserxthanks for help anyway06:02
dragonsno06:02
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dragonsi cannot see the device in the list06:02
IsmAvatarmodern: lightDM is in 11.10, yes. I'm not sure if it was in 11.04 too, but I think it was just 11.10+06:02
dragonswhich has shown up before automatically06:03
violinapprendragons: is it a mass storage device?  umounted?06:03
moderatorIsmAvatar: And you said you're running 10.10...?06:03
dragonsit is mounted to my Host OS, but virtualbox is not seen it, such that it seems that i would not be in the vboxusers group06:03
dragonsbut i am06:03
IsmAvatarmoderator: shoot, I always say that, I'm really sorry. I meant 11.1006:04
moderatorIsmAvatar: >.< No problem, you can see why I was confused.06:04
IsmAvataryes, of course06:04
violinapprendragons: umount it, add a filter for it in USB settings, then right click on USB icon on the VM window (bottom right) and click on the device name06:04
IsmAvatarmoderator: when you say "can't detect usb devices", do you mean in general, or only certain usb devices? Because it works fine for picking up my iphone touch.06:06
Chris_0076meh, is there any way to remove the dumb black bar in 12.04 (the scroll over text) ?06:06
dragonsbrb, rebooting machine06:09
Dragonsok, needed the reboot for some reason to have the settings from the group to take effect on virtualbox06:13
cdm10Dragons: When in doubt, turn it off and on again :)06:13
Dragons;)06:13
Dragonsweird, cause i did kill any processes, and shut down virtualbox all together..06:14
IsmAvatarmoderator: thanks for trying to help, it's really appreciated, however, I was able to get it to work by shuffling around some of my USB devices and plugging it in another slot.06:14
Dragonswhat window manager do you guys have/prefer?06:17
moderatorIsmAvatar: np06:18
_fnordAfter upgrading to ubuntu 12.04 my laptop sometimes doesn't boot, what can I do?06:23
kapzHi, how do I make the wine apps theme the same as my gnome theme? thnaks06:23
kapz_fnord, what happens ?06:23
cdm10kapz, just from a quick googling, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easily-get-wine-apps-to-match-your-gtk-theme/06:24
_fnordIt powers on and the fan turns on, but the screen remains blank06:24
cdm10kapz, not sure if that'll still work, but give it a shot..06:24
kapzcdm10, yeah that didn't work....I think it's old..06:24
cdm10kapz, all the articles I see are from 2010 -- and from a quick glance it looks they they just handle colors -- so I don't think I can help you there.06:25
kapzthnaks just the same :)06:25
kapz*thanks06:26
pp43hello06:28
kapz_fnord check the syslog files from /var /log...06:28
pp43where to get a proxy list?06:28
pp43i cannot find anyone that works06:28
kapzdoes anyone know of a system tray plugin for evolution?06:30
cdm10kapz, it should plug into the messaging menu.06:31
_fnordkapz what am I looking for? It doesn't appear to show anything from before my successful boot. Note that I didn't even get the Acer boot screen up06:32
PredaGRhello people, I would like to use the sun-java6-jdk which has been moved to partner repository as I read, I tried something from help.ubuntu.com but it did not work, tried and went manually to the repository and yet I see the files there but they are not in the package list06:36
PredaGRit is for Lucid06:36
alankilaPredaGR: it is required nowadays to download the jdk from oracle.06:37
alankilaI typically just decompress it under Desktop and then cp -sv everything under bin to my own ~/bin06:37
ZeloZelosis there a disk tool for defragging?06:39
PredaGRlinux does not need defragging06:39
ZeloZelosah ok06:40
alankilaZeloZelos: as it happens, there exist e4defrag and xfs_fsr for ext4 and xfs, and btrfs supports rebalancing and defragmenting, depending on need06:40
cdm10ZeloZelos, PredaGR, this isn't completely true -- but it gets fragmented in a noticeable way much less often. There IS now a defragging tool included in Ubuntu for ext4.06:40
PredaGRthanks alankila, will try that, but it looks ugly... love APT works06:40
Ravasclavasnow who want to do some bank hacking06:41
alankilabut there is no need to defrag in 99 % cases. Only when you run with very little space for long periods do your files get hopelessly fragmented, maybe.06:41
irenicus09Ravasclavas: I wanna hax-r u06:41
irenicus09:P06:41
PredaGRsince which release?06:41
ZeloZeloscdm10,  what is the program or how do i start it?06:41
Ravasclavasany body want to hack a bank with me06:42
irenicus09Ravasclavas: u missed what I just said Lol06:42
irenicus09n--b06:42
Dr_willisZeloZelos,  why do you even think you need to 'defrag'06:42
ZeloZelosDr_willis, i have never done it, and just finished the windows partition06:43
ZeloZelosits maintenance day..how ever u spell it06:43
alankilaZeloZelos: you can probably use e4defrag to report you the fragmentation degree of your files. I run a fairly full linux partition in one VM and thought that would be fragmented for sure. Gave me fragmentation score of 1 out of 10006:44
ZeloZelosbackups, cleaning out the cobwebs etc06:44
kapzcdm10, no it does not...I am using gnome-shell06:44
cdm10ZeloZelos, try running sudo e4defrag -c /dev/your-disk-here (replace your-disk-here with wherever your disk is...)06:44
Dr_willisZeloZelos,  ive used linux for years.. and never needed to defrag... ever. ;)06:45
alankilaAfter a defrag run e4defrag gives score of 006:45
cdm10ZeloZelos, that should let you know whether you need to defrag. Though it's a relatively new tool, and I suspect its scoring is a little silly.06:45
cdm10Dr_willis, I've had some significantly screwy files, mostly from torrents and expanding VM images, which almost INEVITABLY get fragmented if they're not preallocated.06:45
ZeloZeloskk thank you cmd10 n Dr_willis06:45
Dr_willisZeloZelos,  I think its more of a 'windows habbit sneaking into your linux ussage' ;)  theres a lot of 'windows mindset' things that just dont apply to linux06:45
scar3crowlinux has a defrag util now?06:45
cdm10scar3crow, for some filesystems.06:46
scar3crowext4?06:46
alankilascar3crow: false, xfs has had a defrag for like decade. But it's useless there too, I imagine.06:46
Dr_willisisent preallocated the default for ext4 these days06:46
cdm10Dr_willis, you mean extents?06:46
matelot12.04+Unity: How to add a launcher (to Dash)  that launches Some_app06:46
cdm10Dr_willis, for something like a VM image file, which will expand bytes at a time, that does very little.06:46
Dr_willisthat may be.. i  just recall some stuff like that from the ext4 wiki.06:46
kapzext4 takes care of file fragmentation on the fly...no need to defrag it.06:46
alankilakapz: no it does not. Maybe you think of HFS+?06:47
Dr_willisof course ext4 has only been in  common ussage for what 2 years now?06:47
cdm10kapz, not really true...06:47
scar3crowkapz: that's what I thought... ty06:47
RadPalQuick question please: I have a new [HP dv6 i7 8GB RAM], should I install the 64bit version of 12.04 LTS?06:47
cdm10kapz, It certainly does some things in order to prevent fragmentation in the first place, but it won't defrag on the fly.06:47
Dr_willisRadPal,  i alwyas go 64bit on hardare that supports 64bit06:47
alankilaext4 is *worst* with slowly appending files it seems. e4defrag reports those files as examples of ones that are fragmented06:47
alankilaI imagine VM files, if you use disk files or sparse files, are at risk06:47
cdm10alankila, ouch06:47
cdm10alankila, sparse files are pretty much by definition fragmented... fun stuff...06:48
RadPalDr_willis, thank you!06:48
cdm10RadPal, there are very few reasons not to go 65-bit nowadays06:48
cdm10...except that 65-bit doesn't exist.06:48
irenicus09anyone knows if btrfs is stable enough for usage?06:48
cdm10*64-bit.06:48
Dr_willisi cant think of any reason to not go 64bit...06:48
* alankila idly wonders what his disk files look like as they are on xfs06:48
RadPalcdm10: :), thanks.06:48
cdm10irenicus09, I may be making this up entirely, but I read that btrfs doesn't have a fsck tool yet... which seems... silly.06:48
matelotQuestion - 12.04+Unity: How to add a launcher (to Dash)  that launches Some_app06:48
Fyodorovnairenicus09, apparently not from channel chatter and the web.06:48
alankilairenicus09: it is clearly approaching the point. I have a 2 TB disk around 85 % full of btrfs in backup usage, it gets a hammering every night and so far hasn't oopsed my kernel. Occasionally I've even restored files from it and they have been the same files I put in06:49
Fyodorovnairenicus09, At least as a primary setup anyway.06:49
cdm10alankila, that's really the measure of a solid filesystem -- getting the same files out as you put in :)06:50
alankilaso at least btrfs passes a smoke test. I tried it over a year ago and got immediate failures with it, so back then it wouldn't have been ready06:50
Dr_willismatelot,  one way. make a custome .desktop file for your app in question.06:50
irenicus09alankila: cool..but I'm on ext4 dunno what benefit I'd get from switching to btrfs...my hard drive space is some what limited though06:50
cdm10irenicus09, from what I've heard, especially for typical desktop operation, it's pretty much the same performance-wise.06:50
irenicus09hmm06:50
alankilaI worry about the incessant fragmentation of things like disk image files or logs that might result from the copy-on-write nature though.06:52
alankilabtrfs tends to turn a write over one block on filesystem into a sequence of writes which must replace its internal tree nodes and the root node06:53
alankilaand every one of the replaced blocks becomes two points of fragmentation06:54
cocolosI get You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run nvidia-xconfig as root), and restart the X server.06:54
cocolosI tried and restarted and still nothing06:54
cdm10alankila, I guess that's what the defrag tool is for :P I never really thought of that as a consequence of COW filesystems.06:54
cdm10alankila, you can probably tell I haven't thought too hard about 'em in that case :P06:55
alankilacdm10: yeah... maybe it deals with appending better though.06:55
cocolosI just installed new drivers and sdk06:56
alankilabut replacing blocks is a pain point for it, and sqlite3 databases ran by firefox were famously found to be fragmented to like 1000 pieces after a while.06:56
Dr_williscocolos,  how did you install the drivers?06:56
alankilacopy-on-write is great, but this is a cost to it06:56
cdm10alankila, ugh, browser sqlite databases can get fragmented internally to the file AND externally in the fs. Though I can't exactly say "That's happened to me and it's killed my performance!" so maybe it didn't cause any real issues.06:57
cocolosDr_willis: I installed the toolkit then I went to tty to install drivers06:57
Dr_williscocolos,  so you used the self installing .run drivers from the nvidia site?06:58
cocolosDr_willis: yea06:58
Chris_0076hey guys, why is the scroll over text in 12.04 just a solid black box? >.>06:58
alankilacdm10: what can I say. Filesystems are ugly, but we can't exactly go without it. There will probably be a way to turn the cow off for some files specifically, or maybe a background defragmenter that just fixes the files quietly06:58
Chris_0076I have been looking and looking for a way to change it and there is nothin06:58
Chris_0076thing*06:58
Dr_williscocolos,  you did try the drivers from the repos and the PPA's first?06:59
cocolosnope06:59
cocolosDr_willis: How do I do that06:59
LukeNukemHello, i have photoshop running under wine but in firefox if i copy image i cant paste onto photoshop06:59
Dr_williscocolos,   the addational-drivers tool, (jockey-gtk) installs them from the repos.. thats how one normally installs them.06:59
LukeNukemso i have to save and then open it..such a pain, any fix :(06:59
cdm10Chris_0076, what do you mean by scroll-over text?06:59
alankilait would be lovely to fuse databases with the filesystem such that the filesystem actually has access to the records in the table, and is responsible for organizing them. This would allow for greater degree of intelligence, at cost of basically deciding that database tables have but one system-sanctioned format.06:59
LukeNukemHi Dr_willis07:00
Dr_williscocolos,  id have that .run program remove its drivers, and try the  jockey tool first07:00
cocolosoh07:00
Dr_willisusing .run drivers from nvidia - another example of 'windows training/mindset' :)07:00
cocolosSorry but where would I get the jockey ones?07:00
Dr_willisActually on this box - they were installed automatically i thiought07:00
Chris_0076mouse over text, scroll over text, hover over text, description text, floating text, the stuff that pops up if you old your mouse pointer over something text07:00
Dr_williscocolos,  you run jockey-gtk and click... ;)07:00
Chris_0076it is just a black box for me07:00
Dr_williscocolos,  in the menus its called 'addational-drivers' i belive07:00
Chris_0076albeit a bit rounded07:01
Dr_williscocolos,  you DONT have one of those dual-gpu optimus  setups do you?07:01
cdm10Chris_0076, without any text?07:01
Chris_0076the text is black07:01
cocolosDr_willis: no07:01
Chris_0076and the box is maybe 2 shades lightter07:01
Chris_0076lighter*07:01
Dr_willisthats a good thing. ;)07:01
LukeNukemany fix for my issue??07:01
cdm10Chris_0076, well that's rather unhelpful... on mine, the text is white. Let me see if that's easily configurable..07:01
cdm10Chris_0076, by any chance is your install an upgrade from a previous release?07:02
traceiii need help getting sun-java6-jre07:02
Chris_0076it is07:02
Chris_0076well, sort of07:02
Dr_willisusing 12.04 with HUD --> hit alt key -> type 'add'   the 'addational-drivers' item shows up. :) makes it easy to find. Yea for hud.07:02
Chris_0076it is a clean install07:02
Chris_0076with a /home partition07:02
MarkiteNGuys, need a little help here, I'm on 12.04 desktop, successfully connected to the internet using wvdial for my CDMA modem, I can browsing using firefox, and even I can go to this chat room07:02
cdm10Dr_willis, that's not HUD, you'd need to hit Super/WinKey -- or you just search items in current app's menu!07:02
irenicus09alankila: why is it that I get a score of 0 on everything while using e4defrag Lol.07:03
Dr_williscdm10,   alt key is hud - i belive.07:03
Dr_willissuper key = dash07:03
MarkiteNbut in my Network applet said that network is disconnected07:03
cdm10Dr_willis, right, but that searches the current app's menus, not the entire system.07:03
alankilairenicus09: it means ext4's internal fragmentation management policies have worked so well for you that only a few files on your system are fragmented.07:03
Dr_willishud here searched all menus and system07:03
cocolosDr_willis: first I need to unistall current drivers? can I do that over ssh07:03
irenicus09alankila: c00l :p07:03
cdm10Dr_willis, really... I thought that's what dash was for...07:04
Dr_williscocolos,  i dont use the .run drivers. I think they do have some uninstall option. You might not need to remove them.. but its a good idea07:04
cocolosok07:04
MarkiteNso the emphaty chat client isn't working..07:04
Dr_williscdm10,  hud i belive is integerated witht he global menu stuff. so it  has a farther reach then dash07:04
cocolosDr_willis: I tried running jockey but it error out07:04
cdm10Chris_0076, ech, I can't find anywhere to configure the text color -- try going to Appearance and changing the theme, maybe if you change it back it'll reset the color?07:04
Dr_williscocolos,  if you are ssh'd in -  you could use the jockey-text tool.07:05
cocolosDr_willis: Downloading package indexes failed, note I am on 10.0407:05
guaubuntu-recommended filesystem for an external hard drive that will only be used with linux?07:05
Dr_williscocolos,  or just try installing the nvidia-current package.07:05
cocolosI was doing it over vnc07:05
Chris_0076cdm10, there are like 4 themes to pick from, and I have already tried them all07:05
Chris_0076nothing fixes it07:05
cdm10gua, ext4 will do fine07:05
alankilagua: I believe the safe choice today is ext4, it is used a whole lot07:05
Chris_0076same blac07:05
Chris_0076black*07:05
ActionParsnipcocolos: or if you're installing nvidia drivers, just install nvidia-current :)07:05
ActionParsnipgua: is the hard drive flash based?07:05
cdm10Chris_0076, I'm not sure i can think of anything else -- but there's probably a setting somewhere, I just can't think where.07:06
Dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/131617/how-do-i-use-the-hud    Hud-Fu Skills. ;)07:06
Chris_0076yeah, I have been looking for the past hour07:06
cocolosActionParsnip: thanks giving it a shot now07:06
Chris_0076it seems as though they have hidden all the appearance settings pretty well in 12.0407:06
Chris_0076...07:06
newbywhen using the server version of precise is  it possible to get proper vnc access (especially since gnome-shell uses hw/opengl, maybe with virtualGL)?07:06
Chris_0076because ofc they can't just be in "appearance"07:07
cdm10Dr_willis, looks to me like that only searches the menu of the app you're in! It's dash that searches your system's apps. Unless somehow we're both running different Ubuntus :P07:07
Mocnvidia driver on 12.04 acting weird when used with a docking station07:07
guaActionParsnip: no07:07
ActionParsnipnewby: what do you need to access the system to achieve? You probably don't need vnc07:07
guaso ext3/ext4?07:07
ActionParsnipgua: Ext3 or Ext4 will be fine then :)07:07
MocI need to boot my laptop out of the dock since I put 12.04 or else x window start in failsafe mode07:07
Dr_williscdm10,  it definatly does not search just the app you are in.. Those entries are at the top however i noticed. if theres any similer07:08
cdm10Dr_willis, whoops, looks like I was wrong.07:08
newbyActionParsnip, we have a java gui program at work which is used with gnome2 over vnc/network and i wanted to make sure it will work before i suggest an update07:08
Dr_williscdm10,  :) in xchat now. alt -> 'add' ->    >> Hardware > addational-drivers   (first item)07:08
guaActionParsnip: here's hoping we can get btrfs to the general usability stage before long07:08
cdm10Dr_willis, weirdly, I don't see that, though I do see things for other apps. Oh well.07:09
Dr_williswe have gone from menu bars -> big menu buttons (like in Chrome and other browsers) to hiding menus to HUD ;)07:09
cocolosActionParsnip: I get this now: CUDA error: CUDA driver version is insufficient for CUDA runtime version07:09
newbyActionParsnip, the users connect from windows 7 desktops over vnc to a gnome2 session in which the java gui program is used07:10
Dr_willishud cant do math. :)  just tried alt 4+407:10
cdm10Dr_willis, what I found completely bizarre was that apparently an auto-hiding dock by default was too mysterious and confusing for regular users, according to the UI designers, but hiding all the menus by default unless you mouseover them was just fine.07:10
irenicus09Dr_willis: next we'll have virtual..3D menu bars that works just when u think you'll need it :P07:10
cdm10Menus in 3D! Think of the possibilities!07:10
Dr_williscdm10,  i always set the panel to never hide. :)  people have been trained to know menus are at the top..  but not that apps are at the left...07:11
scar3crowcompiz "used" to have 3d menus and windows :P07:11
Dr_willisthat metisse (sp?) window manager had weird 3d window features. :)07:11
cdm10scar3crow, still does with ccsm, but really just flat windows textured onto a 3D surface.07:11
Dr_willisbut i think its really dead these days07:11
LukeNukemwait what07:11
newbyActionParsnip, do you know if vnc will work with gnome-shell?07:11
LukeNukemwhere dafuq is the shape tool in gimp O_O07:12
scar3crowcdm10: yeah but it looks cool07:12
cdm10Dr_willis, only mac users, I'd think... and not those new to computers at all... actually, autohiding dock by default would be silly, but I wish we had that behavior from older Unity (I think) which only autohides the dock if there's a window that also wants to be there.07:12
cdm10LukeNukem, what shape tool?07:12
scar3crowtoo bad I can't enable it with unity :(07:12
Dr_willishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxsUKX6xXyE    metisse video - suprised compiz dident go this route07:12
cdm10scar3crow, Unity IS Compiz... download ccsm07:12
scar3crowkk07:13
cocolosDr_willis: any idea on CUDA error: CUDA driver version is insufficient for CUDA runtime version?07:13
LukeNukemcdm10, to draw shapes07:13
scar3crowwill try out your suggestion...07:13
cdm10LukeNukem, there is a path tool, but GIMP is really a raster graphics tool, not for making shapes.07:13
ActionParsnipnewby: I don't use VNC mate, I think its a nasty protocol07:13
Dr_williscocolos,  no clue. i dont use cuda.  the extendt of me using nvidia drivers - is i do a clean install.. run the jockey tool and install them from the repos.. done.07:13
LukeNukemcdm10, im trying to make a logo :307:13
LukeNukemshits easier in PS ;o07:14
cdm10!language | LukeNukem07:14
ubottuLukeNukem: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.07:14
ActionParsnipnewby: http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx07:14
cdm10LukeNukem, seems like Inkscape is the better tool, though that's got a pretty steep learning curve.07:14
irenicus09ActionParsnip: whats the best alternative if any to vnc?07:14
Dr_willisnewby,  for vnc its 'best' to use as light a window manager/desktop as you can. since vnc can get slow real fast.. ;)07:14
ActionParsnipirenicus09: ssh, web interfaces that sort of thing07:14
irenicus09hmm07:14
Dr_willisssh and x forwarding - handy. :)07:15
LukeNukemcdm10, ill stick to gimp, im gonna do some googling07:15
newbyActionParsnip, Dr_willis ok what would be a better alternative to vnc for Windows7 -> Gnome in precise07:15
cdm10ActionParsnip, that sure isn't an alternative to VNC...07:15
scar3crowssh + Bhodi's virtual x script... woot!07:15
Dr_willisnewby,   when i go windows -> linux via vnc. i normally set up a minimal desktop just for my vnc needs. using jwm, or icewm, or openbox or somthing very very basic.07:15
cdm10gnome-shell's animations will probably slow things waaayyy down. I don't know if you can disable them.07:16
ActionParsnipcdm10: works here, i manage torrents, regular downloads, samba, updates and local media playback using those 2 methods07:16
Dr_willisnewby,   i normally do NOT share the 'current visible desktop' with vnc in linux you do NOT have to share the current visible desktop. :) you could have a dozen+ seperate vnc sessions 'hidden' you can connect to07:16
newbyDr_willis, it doesnt need to be fancy, just fast and standard gnome stuff07:16
alankilaI use vnc against a bunch of virtual machines, it's my management interface and so on. VNC sure can be annoyingly slow, especially something like kvm does not seem to even try to observe what goes on in the screen and send something optimal back in response07:16
Dr_willisnewby,  'standard gnome shell' uses a lot of fancy effects..  its more about what apps you are running.07:16
alankilaat least text consoles scroll astoundingly slowly.07:17
cdm10ActionParsnip, I get that it certainly works, but it's an alternative to VNC the way Lynx is an alternative to Firefox. The command-line is powerful, but if you want a GUI, you use VNC.07:17
Dr_willistheres a lot of neat things you can do with vnc - once you dig into it.07:17
ActionParsnipcdm10: transmission and fatrat have nice web UIs which you can manage stuff with very well. There are also smartphone apps to manage via the same web ui07:18
newbyDr_willis, its a java GUI program for genomic sequence analysis which runns on gnome2 (idk which bindings it uses)07:18
cdm10newby, gnome-shell may not be what you're thinking it is... it's a totally redesigned UI with animation and such, looks nothing like Gnome 2 -- though there is a fallback classic mode.07:18
neurrecan i upgrade from 11.04 straight to 12.04?07:18
neurreor do i need to go through 11.10?07:18
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ActionParsnipcdm10: depends what you need. I can add and remove samba shareeditting smb.conf, much sleeker than VNCing on and using nautilus07:18
cdm10ActionParsnip, that's true, I don't know fatrat but Transmission's webUI is great.07:18
alankilanewby: it may just use swing's native look-and-feel. That looks a lot like gtk2. Or it might be based on swt, which makes it far more dependent on actual libgtk07:18
Flux_what's the lightest DM for gnome 2(MATE)? as far as I can tell LightDM adds a bunch of dependencies for gnome 3. I want something lightweight that's easier than typing startx everytime I boot :P07:18
ActionParsnipcdm10: fatrat can download non-torrent files for you :), it also manages torrents but there is no android app for fatrat yet, so I use transmission07:19
cdm10ActionParsnip, again, not saying that SSH doesn't fulfill the "remotely access computer" requirement, but that it doesn't fulfill the "remotely access computer's GUI" requirement, which many people do want.07:19
Dr_willisnewby,  you can ssh in, start a vnc session via 'vncserver'  to use most any desktop or just a widnow maanger.07:19
newbyalankila, which DE would you use for vnc with such a program`?07:19
ActionParsnipcdm10: depends what you are accesing the gui to do, a lot of the time its not needed07:19
Dr_willisnewby,  most apps dont need tobe ran on a 'full' gnome desktop. they should load the libs/services they need when they get started. but vnc can do gnome-2  decently well i recall07:19
newbyDr_willis, yes or with xinetd, but which session would be best on precise?07:20
cdm10At any rate -- I must leave, #ubuntu is worse than tvtropes for losing track of time.07:20
alankilanewby: I don't actually use vnc in normal day, and I don't think the DE choice matters a whole lot as long as it's something basic and you turn off background and in general try to get very flat, easily compressible look07:20
ActionParsnipFlux_: slim is pretty light, it's nothing to do with the desktop you use07:20
Dr_willisnewby,  id just use 'openbox' or a single light wm.07:20
Flux_thanks I'll check it out :)07:20
Dr_willisnewby,  unless you really want to share the current visible desktop.07:20
nadrWith 12.04, where are repo priorities stored? /etc/apt/preferences doesn't exist but backports is obviously enabled but ignored and apt-cache policy reflects this07:20
alankilanadr: you may want the apt-pinning howto (hope this is not terrible advice, I'm not familiar with the backports)07:21
newbyDr_willis, nope i just need persistend sessions to survive a reconnect (the program usually runs for days for analysis)07:21
Dr_willisnewby,  then you want to do the  'ssh in, start vncserver' route.07:21
ActionParsnipnadr: apt will just look at the version numbers afaik, i'm not aware of any preferences thing...07:21
Dr_willisthat will let you have several hidden persistant sessions.07:21
keulehello ;)   german support?07:21
ActionParsnip!de07:21
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keulety07:22
newbyDr_willis, you mean the realvnc vnc4server?07:22
Dr_willisnewby,  any of them. I tend to use tightvnc07:22
Dr_willisnewby,  gnome's built in vnc is vino. that one shares the current desktop.07:22
xuserxcan you help me ? i have ann error when i want to add a ppa using comand line error>>> Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~webupd8team/+archive/stable) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.07:22
xuserxmy internet connection is working07:22
scar3crowvino is a cool proggie ;)07:23
Dr_willistightvncserver - virtual network computing server software07:23
newbyDr_willis, but can vino display the lightdm login ?07:23
scar3crowdunno...07:23
Dr_willisnewby,  for a PERSISTANT session - you  do not want it showing the lightdm login. You ssh in, start the vncserver...07:23
Dr_willisnewby,  and vino does not show lightdm as far as i know.07:23
scar3crowyou could ssh in and THEN sudo lightdm...07:24
Dr_willisscar3crow,  that dosent really make sence.. ;)07:24
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Happy_Larryhi07:25
xuserxcan you help me?07:25
newbyDr_willis, optimal solution would be: user starts realvnc on windows 7 box and initiates connect -> server starts/reconnects vnc session to lightdm/running gnome (maybe over xinetd) -> user can check on progress in the gnome session/java gui program07:25
nadrnewby: http://mlepicki.com/2011/10/remote-vnc-login-to-ubuntu-11-10/07:26
scar3crowanybody have any luck compiling proprietary intel gpu drivers?07:26
ActionParsnipxuserx: can you give the full output of: sudo apt-get update    please use a pastebin to host07:26
newbynadr: yes thats actually our current setup07:26
Dr_willisnewby,  you need to somehow spawn the vnc server on the linux box first. other wise you cant reconnect. the only solutions ive seen to 'auto start'  vnc as needed. would remove the peristant desktop feature.07:26
xuserxok07:27
intorehi, could someone help to authenticate against a server samba using ubuntu? i configured pam mount but it doesn't mount the user's home directory07:27
Dr_willisnewby,  ive never seen a way to 'start a new.. OR reconnect'  method.07:27
newbyDr_willis, cant this be done with xinetd?07:27
Dr_willisnewby,  xinitd methods ive seen start a new.. but disconnect when the user exits07:27
Dr_williswhich is a critical issue with what you want to do.07:28
Dr_willisbut thats how most window users 'expect' vnc to work. :)  but ive used vnc for years.. i like the persistant desktop feature.07:28
xuserxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/970848/07:28
Dr_willisyou can start a vnc session from rc.local if you wanted to.07:28
Dr_willisthere might be some way to go both ways. but ive not messed with vnc much in the last 2 years07:29
kayamanhia ll07:29
xuserxcan you help me?07:29
ActionParsnipxuserx: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lkjoel/fix404/ubuntu/dists   only supports natty, I suggest you remove it07:30
nadrnewby: could use NX07:30
nadreach user can have multiple sessions07:30
xuserxi cant add any ppa i have the same error07:30
nadrpersistent sessions07:30
ActionParsnipxuserx: http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/  seems to have changed layout, I suggest you remove that too07:30
xuserxok07:31
Dr_willisnadr,  that can work with vnc also. but freenx is faster :) which is a good point.. but harder to setup. :(07:31
silv3r_m00nI have a 4 mpbs internet connection but when I am upgrading ubuntu I get only around 0.5-1 mbps speed , is it because there is too much loan on upgrade servers ?07:31
newbyDr_willis, how about sth like this: http://pastebin.com/2iPfmDWH07:32
xuserxis sun java better than openjdk?07:32
newbynadr, yes but the server costs over 700 dollars?07:33
alankilaxuserx: doubtful. Better for one purpose: android building that I know of07:33
Dr_willisnewby,  try it and see is all i can say. i dont normally mess with making my own services. i ssh in, and start it. :)07:33
* nikolja dobar jutar :)07:33
icerootxuserx: no because oracle java is not FOSS07:33
nadrnewby: there's a free version, or freenx07:33
newbyDr_willis, this works on 11.04, i dont know about 12.0407:33
Dr_willisOracle seems to be doing its best to annoy all the java devs. ;)07:33
xuserxsome web based applications dont work using openjdk07:33
newbynadr, did you use freenx server?07:33
Dr_willisnewby,  and if your user closes the vncclient window. does it stay alive?07:33
newbyDr_willis, on 11.04: yes07:34
nadrnaw I used NoMachine's free one07:34
nadrfree as in beer07:34
newbyDr_willis, it shows gdm login and has persistent sessions per port07:34
Dr_willis newby  i dont see how its changeing ports.. but i guess the user can just try to remer what port to go to.07:35
newbynadr, is that free for research like university too?07:35
nadrnewby: I don't know the specifics07:35
scar3crowman, verbatim sure make crappy cd's07:35
newbyDr_willis, you can specify different ports in the xinetd conf, each port then will have its own persistent session07:36
xuserxhow can i install openjdk 7 on ubuntu 12.04?07:36
cocoloshow do I stop x via ssh ?07:36
scar3crowxuserx: google it... lots of ways07:37
newbycocolos, you could do sudo service lightdm/gdm restart, but that kills all running x sessions07:37
cocolosnewby: restart: Unknown instance:07:38
ActionParsnipcoolpro: could kill the PID07:38
newbyDr_willis, do you think such a setup would work on on precise with gnome fallback?07:39
Dr_willisnewby,   if it works for you. good.. but id watch out that  could break in newer releases of ubuntu07:39
Dr_willisnewby,  Im not sure the -query feature is enabled by default on percise07:39
Dr_willis!info xinted07:39
ubottuPackage xinted does not exist in precise07:39
newbycocolos, hmm idk then, thats how i always do it locally from tty1 here07:39
Dr_willisnewby,  also xinted has been  slowly getting phased out over the years. ;)07:40
Dr_willisxinEtd07:40
cocolosanyone know?07:40
Dr_willisi just run 'vncserver' :)07:40
newbyaaaew07:40
matelotHow can I have an app (say VirtualBox, start in workspace #2 ?07:41
rabbi11unable to mount EHDD: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/970861/07:41
cocoloshow would I restart x via ssh?07:41
Dr_willisnewby,  got xinetd intalled. got that example conf file in /etc/xinted/  now i forget how to make it actually run. ;)07:42
newbyDr_willis, xinetd 1:2.3.14-7ubuntu407:42
ranjanmatelot, Here is it http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/25/how-to-set-default-workspace-size-and-window-effects-in-gnome/07:43
newbyDr_willis, ok let me try it here too07:43
matelotranjan: thanks, I remember devilspie now07:43
ranjanmatelot, :)07:44
Dr_willisnewby,  i rember why i always ssh in and just start vncserver by hand how. ;)07:44
matelotstill not as easy as mac sigh07:45
Dr_willisnever could get xinetd working right07:45
Dr_williscompiz has plugins i thought to force spefific apps in specific workspaces07:45
Dr_willisthat tutorial is dated 2007, that was  a while back. :)07:45
newbyDr_willis: i got it working on 11.04 and its very stable, ressource friendly once its setup correctly07:46
ActionParsnipor you can use devilspie07:46
Dr_willisnewby,  i must have somthing wrong in my xinetd sessions/configs then. i cant even get the vncserver to start07:47
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newbyDr_willis, here is the /etc/xinetd.conf from the working 11.04 box with tigervnc on it http://pastebin.com/WqVRSLfM07:49
silareTrying to compile libatk for GIMP 2.8. I need libglib (v2.31) which I have... but it still picks up the current APT-installed 2.28. How do I make it stop doing that?07:50
silareI don't want to uninstall the APT-installed one because of dependency issues.07:50
ActionParsnipsilare: try:  sudo apt-get -f install07:50
silareActionParsnip: That would fix my packages... But would that make it so my compiled glib 2.32 is detected over my APT-installed glib 2.28?07:51
auronandacesilare: installing gimp2.8 will cause dependency issues07:51
ActionParsnipsilare: not sure, you should make a deb of your efforts so that the package manager recognisses the versioning07:51
asterisk-Testerhello, is tehre a way in ubuntu 11 using unity 2D when searching in the "dash home" to have by default the application set as search filter?07:52
silareauronandace: But what if I coimpile from source?07:52
auronandacesilare: i'd assume the same07:52
ActionParsnipsilare: if you compile from source in a package based OS you'll get issues if you don't make packages to gell with the rest07:53
auronandacesilare: if in doubt, test in a vm07:53
auronandacesilare: vms are awesome07:53
silareauronandace / ActionParsnip: I have tested them... unfortunately not in a VM before. I lost my entire GNOME earlier. ._. I think I got impatient. But I'll look around and see if there's a way. If I have to uninstall vala for a bit, it won't be the end of the world, I guess. ^_^;07:54
StarryNightanyone has a problem with rar under kubuntu 12.04 ltd?07:57
StarryNightlts?07:57
Dr_willisStarryNight,  a problem such as?07:57
StarryNighti get this error:07:57
StarryNightfailed with the following error failed to locate program unrar in path07:57
StarryNightUsing rar07:57
ranjanStarryNight, sudo apt-get install unrar07:58
Dr_willisyou dont seem to have unrar installed. or your path is wrong07:58
diegoviolahi07:58
Dr_willisyou are using what tool exactly to handle the rar files StarryNight ?07:58
diegoviolado you guys think the upcoming Windows 8 will drive users to Linux and Ubuntu?07:58
StarryNighti tried 7z07:58
Dr_willisStarryNight,  7z has its own rar-extension-plugin i think in the repos07:59
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Dr_willisp7zip-rar - non-free rar module for p7zip07:59
ActionParsnipStarryNight: sudo apt-get install rar unrar unp p7zip-rar p7zip-full07:59
ranjanActionParsnip, Exactly :)07:59
ActionParsnipdiegoviola: wrong channel dude07:59
Dr_willisunp is your friend... ;)07:59
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ActionParsnipunp should be default installed08:00
Dr_willis!info unp08:00
ubottuunp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0~pre7 (precise), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB08:00
diegoviolaActionParsnip: sorry08:00
ranjandiegoviola, are you afraid of people moving to Linux and Ubuntu? :)08:00
Dr_willispeople always hate whats 'new' - and try to hang on to the old....  then a year or 2 later.. they cant imagine going back to the old....08:01
StarryNightaction i hve the full version installed already08:01
newbyDr_willis, hmm cant get it working on precise here too08:02
Dr_willisStarryNight,  with 'unp' you can do 'unp foo.rar' and it should unpack it.08:02
ActionParsnipStarryNight: also install the others...08:02
diegoviolaranjan: no, i actually want that to happen08:02
Dr_willisnewby,  i THINK it has to do with that -query , but i cant find any logs to prove it. your Xvnc --lots-of-options command - does not seem to work when i call it directly as root either.08:02
diegoviolaranjan: why would i be afraid?08:03
Dr_willisnewby,  im using tightvnc08:03
diegoviola...08:03
jenenliuwhat08:03
ranjandiegoviola, just kidding :)08:03
diegoviolaranjan: :D08:03
newbyDr_willis, i tried it with vnc4server here08:03
Uncle_hi guys.... i cannot change my cpu frequency via the gnome-panel cpufreq applet.... the values are just stucked at 1,67 GHz and 1 GHz.... could you please give me an advice how to change it to "Ondemand"?08:05
Magicoventociao a tutti08:06
Magicovento!list08:07
ubottuMagicovento: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».08:07
stone_i am the new comer08:07
Uncle_any ideas?08:08
StarryNightthanks dr willis it woked08:11
Flynsarmyhey guys when i select 'gnome classic' in 12.04 on login it just loads unity...why? gnome classic (no effects) works fine. I have 3d-enabled graphics drivers because unity uses them08:11
ActionParsnipStarryNight: easy stuff :)08:12
ActionParsnipStarryNight: you can even install unace-nonfree if you want the whole hog08:12
StarryNighti am still learning the stuff after 2 years08:13
Flynsarmyanyone?08:16
ActionParsnipFlynsarmy: check the session file for the classic desktop.08:16
FlynsarmyActionParsnip: where do i find the session file?08:17
lumbertHello I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 32bit desktop version onto a PC.  I'm currently trying to install via WUBI because my USB installation was a non-starter.  I'm getting an error at the end of the installer. http://paste.ubuntu.com/970903  Line 198 is the error I'm receiving in a critical error dialogue box.  Although line 195 seems to be a bigger issue.08:17
ActionParsnipFlynsarmy: /usr/share/xsessions   a quick search would have shown you that...08:17
FlynsarmyActionParsnip: gnome-classic.desktop http://dpaste.com/743606/08:18
bitonicHow can I start manually the "mail" applet that's in the unity panel (the one with the empath and thunderbird notifications) and the one for the volume?08:19
ActionParsnipFlynsarmy: all I can suggest is check startup items08:21
buteo-buteo /msg buteo-buteo !bot08:21
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newbyDr_willis: i got Xvnc working but i only get a gray bg, maybe i need a special xstartup for it?08:24
StarryNighti noticed if i try to do the kind of stuff (running a patch) under windows it would crash08:29
ActionParsnipnewby: if you run: gnome-session &    via ssh, does it show up?08:33
ActionParsnipnewby: http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/26/how-to-connect-to-your-headless-server-with-vncgui/08:34
lumbertHello I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 32bit desktop version onto a PC.  I'm currently trying to install via WUBI because my USB installation was a non-starter.  I'm getting an error at the end of the installer. http://paste.ubuntu.com/970903  Line 198 is the error I'm receiving in a critical error dialogue box.  Although line 195 seems to be a bigger issue.  I've attempted the installation08:34
lumberttwice, same error each time.  Not sure how else to proceed.08:34
ActionParsniplumbert: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded if you downloaded one?08:37
cocoloswhy doesn't sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop work?08:38
cocoloscould it be because I am using ssh?08:38
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mi3<name>TuneUp Newsletter</name>, any suggestions on how to remove <name></name> ??08:40
llutzcocolos: sudo service gdm stop (if you are sure you're really running gdm, not lightdm or any other dm)08:40
enzotibmi3, sed 's/<[^>]*>//g'08:41
cocolosllutz: how can I find out what i am running08:41
cocoloswhen I do service gem stop I get stop: Unknown instance:08:41
mi3awesome, thankyou enzotib !!08:41
llutzcocolos: ps ax|grep dm08:42
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cocolos 1225 ?        Ss     0:00 /bin/bash /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer08:42
lumbertActionParsnip: WUBI did the download and the MD5 both, both times.08:43
cocolosllutz: any idea why I get unknown instance?08:44
kn_I have a USB Wireless adapter which gives me internet access, a linksys router, two laptops and network cables. How can I set up my network so the laptops don`t have to share the USB WLAN adaptor? Is it possible to use have one laptop use the USB WLAN adaptor and use the laptop as a proxy for the other one, so both can surf at the same time?08:44
llutzcocolos: service --status-all      check what "dm" instances are known08:44
cocolosllutz: I see it08:45
cocolos [ ? ]  gdm08:45
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llutzcocolos: i guess [ ? ] means, "state unknown" and thats why "stop" fails. try "sudo pkill gdm"08:48
cocoloshmm08:49
cocolosx server is still trunning08:49
cocolosllutz: any idea?08:52
lumbertActionParsnip: I guess third times the charm, seems to have worked on attempt #3.08:52
llutzcocolos: not really, sry. i guess that failsafe-session works different from normal but i never had to deal with it08:53
cocolosok thanks08:53
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intorehi, someone knows how configure pam_mount.conf.xml?08:56
ActionParsniplumbert: nice08:57
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lumbertActionParsnip blah, massive video corruption once in ubuntu. bleh.09:01
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mi3hello09:09
saemi3: hello09:10
mi3hello09:10
iObeyHi guys... what is a good IM client for ubuntu that can log into like everything.. I know it comes with Empathy but it  dose not log into skype or multiple twitter accounts09:10
iObeyis there another one i cna use or a plugin for empathy or somthing for twitter and skype?09:11
iObeyor maybe somthign to replace it but also apear in the unity bar at the top of the scrrne09:11
LasheriObey, i don't know if there is something like that for skype09:11
Lasherand pidgin09:11
mi3I need some more suggestions on sed command, I am using wget to retrieve my gmail accounts, and it retrieves the titles of the unread email, say for example, 5 emails, however, I dont want it to show the title of the 1st email09:12
linuxi am getting internal error while updating in 12.0409:12
fgHi09:13
fgI installed "nvidia-current", but my graphic doesn't work. Anybody Can help me?09:14
iObeyLasher, ok.. pidgin is pretty much the same it seams ... it also dose not log into twitter09:14
railsraiderhi, i have a service conflict wap-wsp and i am trying to use 9200 as the port for a mysql health check how do i remove it?09:15
iObey(dose it?)09:15
LasheriObey, i use a combo of empathy and gwibber09:15
dupondjeiObey: for twitter/facebook you need Gwibber09:15
dupondje:)09:15
iObeygwibber dose not support google+09:16
ubuntufanHello Everyone09:17
ubuntufanI have a question. is everyone here not talking, or am I just not seeing things because I'm not registered or something09:18
saeubuntufan: Hello09:19
MarkiteNubuntufan: we were talking rite now09:19
saerailsraider: have you check via network tools to see which ports are being used by which service?09:21
MarkiteNnetwork-manager still treat my wvdial connection as "Disconnected"..09:22
kmelshi, any hints on why "sudo chsh" and then doing "/bin/bash" does not work?09:23
kmelsi mean, it does not persist09:24
kmelsafter restarting09:24
fgI installed "nvidia-current", but my graphic doesn't work. Anybody Can help me?09:24
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kmelsfg, download the drivers from nvidia website and compile from instructions09:24
kmelsnvidia-current sometimes break my config.09:24
TheM4ch1n3kmels: why not use "su -l" ?09:25
kmelsTheM4ch1n3, I think that's the reason. I will try and report back, thanks09:25
TheM4ch1n3fg: um, you may want to check /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:25
TheM4ch1n3else try deleting it, if its a new ubuntu, or re-creating it09:26
TheM4ch1n3check for /proc/dri/0/ if its there, the kernel has 3D ready, its just checking X11 settings09:27
fgkmels: When i type "sudo sh Nvidia...." i get this error: "Verifying archive integrity... Error in check sums 1726264509 3744482395"09:27
fgTheM4ch1n3: How?09:27
kmelsfg, then the file is corrupted (it wasn't downloaded correctly)09:27
saekmels: have you checked /etc/passwd to see which shell is set for the user you are trying to the change the shell for?09:27
TheM4ch1n3open a console, login as root: "su -l" then "vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or just open the file read+write in an editor09:28
TheM4ch1n3ie, after root, you can: "xauth merge ~me/.Xauthority"  then "kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"09:28
kmelssae, I did now.. I think that will do it! brb09:29
genesi1buondì09:29
TheM4ch1n3replace me with your username, also try to avoid using xauth to allow root access to X11 (via magic cookie)09:29
Stanley00!who | TheM4ch1n309:30
ubottuTheM4ch1n3: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)09:30
kmels:D it works09:30
heikoheikoheikoI'm looking for a easy to use program for simple video cutting, removing ads in tv recordings. I usually use avidemux for that, but it crashes on some of my files.09:30
TheM4ch1n3ubottu: ok, thanks09:31
saeheikoheikoheiko: have a look at openshot09:31
lasersheikoheikoheiko: Please hilight me. Thx. :O09:31
heikoheikoheikosae: k, thx09:31
fgkmels: Thanks. How can i remove installed nvidia-current?09:32
intorehi, anyone has experience with samba and pam_mount?09:32
saeheikoheikoheiko: another one is kdenlive09:32
kmelsfg, sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current, I think09:32
marc^hi! :)09:33
marc^i have an issue that i never had before with tomcat09:33
fgkmels: Thanks alot  your help:)09:34
CelltechIs ubuntu a debain base?09:34
marc^running ubuntu 10.04.4 lts on a vserver with jdk 1.6.0_32 and tomcat 6.0.35/7.0.27: i always getting this error msgs when i am executing startup.sh in catalina.out: WARNING: Unknown default host: localhost AND java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address09:34
kmelsfg, no problem09:35
saeCelltech: yes09:35
Celltechsae: Awesome. I downloaded "yate" and now I need to configure it since nothing really on ubuntu works right after it's installed09:35
saeCelltech: what is "yate"?09:36
marc^there is definitely no other process running at 8080 but I tried 9080 and 8090 too, same problem. even changed <host name="... in tomcat server.xml nothing helped09:36
Celltechsae: Yet Another Telephony Engine09:36
Celltechsae: voip that can use your google talk09:37
saeCelltech: thanks :) got it09:37
saeCelltech: have you heard about Jitsi?09:38
Celltechsae: No. is it the same thing?09:38
saemarc^: could it be that you need to give your host a name?09:38
Zeising_Hm. I ask again since I didn't get an answer yesterday.  Is there any way to configure which desktop manager to use, without using dpkg-reconfigure and manually selecting?09:38
Celltechsae: Does it call to phones though? Thats what I'm looking for. internet to phone09:39
MatrixiumnHelo09:39
saemarc^: Have a look at /etc/resolv.conf09:39
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Guest29812Is there a way to remove all of a certain file type in a specific directory and all subdirectories?09:40
Guest29812Or let me rephrase that09:40
Guest29812a certain command?09:40
icerootGuest29812: find with rm09:40
icerootGuest29812: also see #bash09:40
saeCelltech: It does support SIP, so you would be able to call phones, if you have an account with a SIP provider.09:40
marc^sae: in /etc/hosts is the hostname defined even with fqdn, in resolv.conf there are 3 dns servers09:41
Celltechsae: google talk is09:41
TheM4ch1n3Guest29812: find /some/dir -iname "*word*" -exec rm -i {} \;   # <- interactive, remove "-i" and replace with "-f" for silent09:41
saeCelltech: check out www.jitsi.org09:41
Celltechsae: i386 stable?09:42
saeCelltech: right stable09:43
willHello09:43
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Celltechsae: k downloading now installing09:43
lost_and_unfoundGreetings, Ubuntu 11.10, I have a USB 3G modem. The modem works fine, however, once the system has been idle (e.g. 20min) I have to unplug the USB, replug it in and the start a new connection . It appears to be powersaving or timeout on the device. Any suggestions where to google/fiddle /09:44
TheM4ch1n3hi Guest9412009:44
TheM4ch1n3lost_and_unfound: that is your service procider, I have same problem09:44
Guest94120a09:45
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TheM4ch1n3lost_and_unfound: *provider, though I may be wrong, it is resetting the device, and/or leaving it in a bad state, I only get it after my provider hangs up on me09:45
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lost_and_unfoundTheM4ch1n3: but the USB becomes totally unresponsive, hence it though it was device related rather than SP related09:45
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TheM4ch1n3lost_and_unfound: so you mean other devices on the USB hub act up ?09:46
lost_and_unfoundno, only the USB modem. I cannot use network manager to reconnect, have to unplug. Other usb devices like printer and keyboard still works fine09:46
lost_and_unfoundTheM4ch1n3: ^^09:47
elkngis "Ubuntu for Android" entire OS ?09:48
elknglike cyanogenmod ?09:48
TheM4ch1n3ok, well I have had this problem often, I started to blame the hardware like you are, then after so many times, I just started to blame the ISP, my problem may not be yours, but I have a solution I use09:48
icerootelkng: yes, but using the android-kernel09:48
saemarc^:  sorry, have you tried searching the net for "tomcat unknown default host error"09:48
elkngwhen it will be released ?09:48
TheM4ch1n3I just have two USB cables, and pluging in and out the device is just plugging in and out the ends of the cables, so my device will live longer09:48
lost_and_unfoundTheM4ch1n3: your solution ... calling up SP call centre and giving them a hard time ? =]09:49
elkngwill android applications from market work in "Ubuntu for Android" ?09:49
TheM4ch1n3I also had similair kind of problem with Bluetooth USB dongle, though I think that was due to flacky vendor support for Linux09:49
marc^sae: yes but without success so far09:50
TheM4ch1n3lost_and_unfound: dude, if you phone them they will probably just tell you to use Windows, then you will have more problems, trust me, but you can if you want :)09:50
lost_and_unfoundTheM4ch1n3: I wouldnt mind that option, however the PC serves as a DLNA server and have internet connectivity, so each time you have to go to the PC to reset the internet.. it gets a bit frustrating. so I will google around a bit more. Maybe I get 'n solution =] Thanks for the input, appreciate it09:52
TheM4ch1n3I got a new PC the other day, and Linux would not read the CD, until I change a setting in the bios that said "Windows" next to it (IDE/AHCI) !!09:52
lost_and_unfound^^ reset internet connectivity... resetting the internet is something TOTALLY different =]09:53
shreddingMy httpd.conf in my apache is somewhat messed up. Where can I find the original one (at install time)?09:53
TheM4ch1n3I tested the PC with an old linux that only supports IDE, and guess what, didn't work either, so I figured out it was just a button to get rid of Linux09:53
TheM4ch1n3lost_and_unfound: um, when I am on the net it resets too at random times, I am starting to think my ISP is doing it to stop re-sellers of there "line"09:55
lost_and_unfoundshredding: backup /etc/apache, uninstall apache, install apache, copy over configs...09:55
TheM4ch1n3lost_and_unfound: your best guess is as good as mine :/09:55
shreddinglost_and_unfound: sudo apt-remove apache2?09:55
shreddingI do not have much configs, basically I just have setup a virtual host. I would just dump it and restart from scratch.09:56
lost_and_unfoundTheM4ch1n3: .. they are all out to get us man!09:56
lost_and_unfoundshredding: so, backup you configs to your home dir09:56
lost_and_unfoundshredding: sudo apt-get remove apache209:57
shreddingthanks09:57
* lost_and_unfound afk... trying to find answers... *gone*09:57
tsimpsonshredding: make sure you use use --purge with apt-get to remove the config files09:57
shreddingtsimpson: DAMN, two secs to late.09:58
shreddingI've already removed.09:58
shreddingtsimpson: is there a way to remove the config files after removing apache2?09:58
lost_and_unfoundshredding: just rm your /etc/apache/*09:58
tsimpsonshredding: yes, sudo dpkg --purge ... :)09:59
tsimpsonjust put the package(s) at the end09:59
tsimpsonI think it's actually apache2.2-common that contains the config files, so probably that one09:59
shreddingOk.10:00
ANubguys anyone among u has used wireshark on 12.04....?10:00
lost_and_unfoundshredding: follow tsimpson suggestions... sounds more "secure" than rm'ing =] .10:00
CruX|hello i have problem with unetbootin and kubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso, anyone can help (cdrom is not detected) ?10:01
CruX|http://put.sk/img/9366s10.png10:01
shreddingtsimpson: The problem is that I can't remove apache2.2-common because it has dependencies (namely php10:01
herb9ahello, i have a big problem: i have upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04 via cd rom (and updates from the network) and i still can login and while my personal files are still available NO other application (besides firefox and nautilus) is installed, not even a terminal?! can someone help me out10:01
ANubherb9a>> i also updated from 11.04 and i can see everything10:02
TheM4ch1n3herb9a: if you try CTRL+ALT+F1  ... CTRL+ALT+F12 does it have a text terminal somewhere ?10:02
herb9aokay, i mean there are no applications available in the launcher - but since i could started up nautilus i can start xterm in /usr/bin/xterm10:02
ANubwat r u using .....unity or classic..?10:02
ActionParsnipherb9a: log into Unity2D session, may help10:02
tsimpsonshredding: it shouldn't depend on php, that's an optional component10:03
* TheM4ch1n3 dissapears in hidden terminal on herb9a ;) j/k10:03
shreddingtsimpson: I have the feeling that this whole stuff is a total mess.10:04
tsimpsonshredding: well, whatever it depends on should be installed again when you apt-get apache210:05
shreddingtsimpson: I have followed an installation guide somewhere in the web that was bullshit and now I have the whole stack (MySQL, PHP, Apache) in different packages.10:05
herb9aActionParsnip: okay, i will try that10:05
shreddingtsimpson: I've done sudo apt-get install apache2 and he did something, but /etc/apache2/ is empty.10:07
nokiaguruUbuntu 10.04lts. Can someone confirm Epson AllInOne  does not work in 10.04 and I cannot backport prog/driver for it no ppa . So I have to install a newer release just to use the Epson AllInOne yes ?10:07
john1000my ubuntu 12.04 boot on 40 s is normaly?10:07
ActionParsnipnokiaguru: which all in one, there are LOTS10:08
shreddingtsimpson: however, localhost is still available with my old configuration10:09
TheM4ch1n3john1000: possibly, running the bootloader may change that10:09
ActionParsnipnokiaguru: its like going to a garage and saying you have an issue with a "car", you need to be a lot more specific10:09
ActionParsnipnokiaguru: it could be one of any of these: http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/ProductCategory.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=-818210:10
john1000k i was installed on  wubi win710:11
herb9aActionParsnip: just a quick question: what should has this to do with 2d/3d? i can see some in the unity launcher, but there are not all available10:11
ActionParsnipjohn1000: is your NTFS fragmented?10:11
john1000yes10:11
herb9aActionParsnip: is there maybe something to refresh the index?10:11
ActionParsnipherb9a: if you attempt to log in to 3D and 3D accelleration isn't working you will get a blank destop. 2D will run on anything10:11
AminosAmigoshello10:12
ActionParsnipjohn1000: thats why then, your wubi 'disk' is stored in NTFS, so fragmentation there will directly affect the Ubuntu performance10:12
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shreddingtsimpson: Ok, now it's totally weird: "locate httpd.conf" tells me its /etc/apache2/httpd.conf - but it isnt.10:12
john1000ok thx for information10:12
herb9aActionParsnip: okay, but this is not the case here - the interface is working, but just the index of all applications is not available10:12
ActionParsnipjohn1000: if you install a proper install, it doesn't use ntfs so fragmentation won't occur10:12
AminosAmigosIs it possible to install cinnamon on 12.04 LIVE CD ?10:13
tsimpsonshredding: locate uses a cache, usually updated once a day, so that's normal10:13
shreddingtsimpson: puh10:13
ActionParsnipAminosAmigos: if you can find a PPA, yes. Cinnammon is not supported here10:13
shreddingBut how does it come that my localhost works?10:13
tsimpsonshredding: I'd guess some apache instance is still running (even though it should have been killed during the removal)10:13
AminosAmigosActionParsnip,  ok thanx10:14
nokiaguruAP   It is for the Epson sx515w. The xsane in 10.04lts not compatible with the Epson and I need to use xsane-0.998. But it is not in 10.04lts repository.10:14
shreddingtsimpson: ok, i've done killall apache2 and am now here with a non working apache10:14
ActionParsnipAminosAmigos: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install cinnamon10:15
tsimpsonshredding: if I was in your position now, I'd probably do something like "sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | grep apache | awk '{print $2}'" (ie: remove every package with "apache" in it), and then start over10:16
shreddingtsimpson: What's going on at sudo apt-get install apache2? He installs some 29,7 kb stuff somewhere but not apache2 in /etc/apache2/10:16
ActionParsnipAminosAmigos: for a supported desktop, I suggest you install xfce4. You will then be supported here10:16
AminosAmigosi just want to try it to see whats new about it :)  ActionParsnip  :D thanx a lot10:17
shreddingtsimpson: thanks, when I enter this in the terminal, it just switches to an ">" and I can't do anything.10:18
shreddingtsimpson: ah, added an )10:18
ActionParsnipAminosAmigos: all I did was websearch, I don't use Cinnamon....10:18
shreddingtsimpson: That failed. It says there are dependencies and 0 package are removed :(10:19
nokiaguruAP Is there a way to add xsane-0.998 to Ub10.04lts10:19
ActionParsnipnokiaguru: if you can find it, sure10:19
shreddingI hate it.10:19
ActionParsnipnokiaguru: try typing my full nick (use tab to autocomplete)10:20
tsimpsonshredding: ok, try replacing "dpkg --purge" with "apt-get --purge remove", then do the dpkg command again (just to make sure)10:20
hubp2ActionParsnip: if you are interested, i have solved the launcher problem by removing ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite10:20
shreddingtsimpson: the dpkg -l remains?10:21
ActionParsniphubp2: thanks, mental note :)10:21
ActionParsnipnokiaguru: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140087210:21
tsimpsonshredding: yes10:21
shreddingtsimpson: Ok, that did some serious stuff.10:22
shreddingtsimpson: Would sudo apt-get install apache2 be the next move?10:22
JekyllIs tilda a dead project? The last release was years ago.10:23
tsimpsonshredding: first, check the output of "dpkg -l|grep apache", there should be no output10:23
tsimpsonshredding: if that's ok, apt-get is the next step10:23
ActionParsnipJekyll: possibly, could use guake10:23
scifihi, on my ubuntu 11.04 the host system crashes when I start a guest system (ubuntu 64 bit) with virtualbox. Does anyone know whether this hsa to do with the ubuntu update or is it rather virtualbox's fault? The same guest system worked fine on 10.1010:24
shreddingtsimpson: yes, there's no output.10:24
ActionParsnipscifi: ask in #vbox as well10:24
scifii did so ActionParsnip :)10:24
ActionParsnip:)10:24
scifiit's really wicked, I already wiped the whole virtualbox, reoved all configuration etc and then installed again, imported the .ova again and it still happens :/10:25
shreddingtsimpson: THANK YOU. It worked.10:26
shreddingI do now have a fresh apache2 installation. Should be easy from now.10:26
tsimpson:)10:26
shreddingThanks again, that really helped!10:26
LynysysHi folks - just had reported to me on a precise pangolin upgrade "It sticks on the startup page and when I start it it just keeps cycling on the ubuntu page" - I'm visiting the client (My mom) later and wondered if anyone knew what might have happened from the rather terse fault description!10:27
jjavaholicI'm experiencing a problem with the unity dash none of the application icons in the launcher or inside the dash work how would you diagnosis this problem?10:27
jjavaholicI can click on files and they will load from inside the dash10:28
ActionParsnipLynysys: possibly low disk space. Press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login screen and run:  sudo apt-get clean10:28
nokiaguruActionParsnip. Found add-apt-repository ppa:robert-ancell/sane-backends. Installed and sane now working with sx515w10:29
jjavaholicdone that did nothing10:29
tarelerulzI'm using  12.04 and I some how turned of  my wifi and it will not turn back on at all.10:30
LynysysThanks ActionParsnip I'll keep that in miind10:31
jjavaholicwhen i ctrl-alt f1 and sudo service lightdm restart they start loading but later after a cron.hourly shows up syslog stop working10:31
jjavaholicI think i'm possibly missing a process that should be handling it put as i'm not really that familar with the unity processes i don't know which one i'm looking for.10:33
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jjavaholicbut^10:33
nokiaguruAction Parsnip thanks.   No way was i installing the Unity **** just to use printer.10:34
kittxi_does anyone in here know how to easily download windows games like League of Legend, or even IMVU for somereason it says10:35
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kittxi_  the last disk(s) of this archive.10:35
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jjavaholicis there a channel for unity?10:38
ActionParsnipjjavaholic: maybe #unity  or here10:39
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AminosAmigosActionParsnip,  it works fine (Live usb) thanks again10:45
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tsimpsonmi3: do not abuse the bot10:49
Gyro54How do I upgrade my Thunderbird10:49
mi3tsimpson, ok, and tell others, too10:49
Jesterubottu10:49
tsimpsonmi3: no one else did10:49
mi3is a bot10:49
mi3lol10:49
kayamanguys who is this ubottu10:49
sirknighticeroot just need the termnial window to stay open10:49
marc^!donotabusethebot | mi310:49
mi3tsimpson, bitch, LinuxMonkey did10:49
Jesterubottu da fuq ?10:49
ubottuJester: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:49
icerootsirknight: then dont close it10:49
mi3lol10:49
kayamanguys who is this ubottu10:50
kayamanguys who is this ubottu10:50
LinuxMonkeyGyro54:  wich version are you currently running and what version is your ubuntu?10:50
Jesterubottu i love you !!! :*10:50
ubottuJester: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:50
mi3kayaman, ubottu is a bot10:50
JesterNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO10:50
Gyro54I am running 3.1 and on 11.04 but there is no upgrade available10:50
aciculakayaman: its a channel bot that you can ask for some factoids10:50
mi3IRC bot ok10:50
Jesterhow i can select other channel ?10:50
marc^ok this conversation is lost in bot abuse10:50
sirknightwell when i run the script it closes itself10:50
elkng!abuse10:50
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:50
marc^bbl10:50
mi3what the f is wrong with this channel? is everyone gone mad?10:50
aciculaGyro54: what version are you expecting?10:50
kayamanacicula,  thanks10:50
mi3lol10:50
shreddingtsimpson: Ok, i got it so far, but now apache prompts me to download my php files.10:51
Gyro54version 12?10:51
shreddingI downloaded the php dependencies and restarted apache.10:51
shreddingAll I did was adjusting the sites-available/default to my /home/me/www directory10:51
aciculaGyro54: ah you are trying to upgrade the ubuntu installation10:51
mi3BYE10:51
mi3:D10:51
shreddingDo you have an idea?10:51
aciculaGyro54: how are you trying to upgrade?10:51
shredding(Or someone else)10:51
aciculashredding: an idea about what precisely?10:52
tsimpsonshredding: you want to install php5 and libapache2-mod-php5 to run PHP code10:52
Gyro54acicula: TB is telling me I need to upgrade as my version is old. I downloaded the tar but thought there may be a unubtu release?10:52
LjLmi3: maybe your first language is not english, but calling someone a "bitch" is not nice, please don't do it...10:53
shreddingacicula: The history is, that my apache installation was messed up and i started from scratch, with big help from tsimpson10:53
mi3ok, LjL10:53
shreddingtsimpson: I've already done so.10:53
mi3sorry, LjL10:53
LinuxMonkeyGyro54: there is10:53
mi3and btw, LjL my 1st language IS English[US]10:53
LinuxMonkeyGyro54: latest version in the repo is 12.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.110:53
Gyro54Do I just apt-get update thunderbird?10:54
aciculaGyro54: you will have to update through the software-manager, not via a tar that you download10:54
sirknightshredding,  note:back up/clone  so you can time travel lolXD10:54
tsimpsonshredding: did you restart apache after installing those?10:54
shreddingSure.10:54
shreddingIf I run php ~/www/index.php via command line, it works.10:55
neurehi10:55
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tsimpsonshredding: check if /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load exist exists, if not you probably need to "sudo a2enmod php5" and then restart apache (again)10:55
neureis there some minimal ubuntu install iso i can download?10:55
neurei have 256 MB daily download limit :(10:55
LjL!minimal | neure10:55
ubottuneure: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:55
iceroot!minimal | neure10:55
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shreddingtsimpson: The file does exist.10:56
icerootneure: but that will need more then 256mb if you want a desktop10:56
LjLneure: however it will still download everything from the internet if you want a full environment, no way out of that10:56
neurei know10:56
shreddingsudo a2enmod php5 says: Module already enabled10:56
shreddingI'm going crazy with this.10:56
Tzunamiishredding: ls -la /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/10:57
shreddingTzunamii: http://pastebin.com/Ar5MvSc310:58
tiagoHello everyone, does anyone notices that in 12.04 your computer fan is constantly on work?10:58
Paddy_NIHello I'm having a very frustrating problem, I pressed the button above my touchpad on the laptop (compaq cq71) that disables/enables the touchpad.. I now no longer have use of the mouse when logged into the default ubuntu session, however when I  am on the login screen it works perfectly and when logged in to ubuntu 2d10:58
Paddy_NII have tried switching the button on and off and it makes no difference10:59
Paddy_NIand restarting10:59
Barbicanwhat is this irc10:59
Barbican?10:59
Jesterwhere goes programs whe i install it on ubuntu whitch folder ?11:00
Jesteranybody know ?11:00
shreddingPaddy_NI: I have a similar thing at work, did you try pressing it a few seconds?11:00
shreddingJester: /etc/11:00
tsimpsonJester: different kind of files go in different places, but usually they are all under /usr11:00
shreddingJester: tsimpson is right11:00
Jesterthank11:00
Paddy_NIshredding, Hmm yes.. but perhaps I did not press it long enough??11:01
Paddy_NIokay time to log out and back in to the default session brb11:01
Tzunamiishredding: I'm sorry, but would you please re-state your exact issue11:01
Gyro54LinuxMonkey: My software centre only shows TB version 3.1.2? do i need to switch something on?11:01
tsimpsonTzunamii: their issue is apache not executing PHP scripts, but rather just sending the raw PHP script (as far as I understand it)11:02
LinuxMonkeyGyro54: close software center11:02
shreddingTzunamii: Thank you. I had a total messed up apache which i had to remvoe. I started from scratch, have now apache2 up and running and just changed the default virtual host to my home directory. My Problem: PHP files are not parsed but just downloaded.11:02
LinuxMonkeyGyro54: the in console type apt-get update11:02
shreddingTzunamii: e.g. apache delivers the files directly to the browser instead of processing them.11:03
TzunamiiDoes it find your index.php script via Apache at all?11:03
Gyro54LinuxMonkey: Thanks - will do11:03
Paddy_NIshredding, okay now it mysteriously just started working as soon as I logged back in :-)11:03
LinuxMonkeythen do a an apt-get install thunderbird11:03
Paddy_NIno button press required11:03
shreddingTzunamii: What do you mean by "does it find"? It finds it and it's delivers it like css or js files.11:03
ActionParsnipGyro54: what version do you want?11:04
Tzunamiiok11:04
Jesterhow i can change chanel on xchat-gnome ?11:04
shreddingPHP5 is up and running in the console.11:04
LinuxMonkeyif your repo's are set it should update that 1 package11:04
shreddingI have added all dependencies.11:04
shreddingAnd am now at the end with my knowledge.11:04
shreddingPaddy_NI: cool11:04
ActionParsnipGyro54: and what is the ouput of:  lsb_release -sc11:04
shreddingWould it help to restart the computer?11:05
Tzunamiishredding: check one thing first:  apt-get update && apt-get install libapache2-mod-php511:05
Paddy_NIOne other question, is skype now supported through anything other than the official client?11:05
kayamanhey11:05
shreddingTzunamii: ok, sec11:06
Gyro54ActionParsnip: Natty11:06
jribshredding: pretty sure php is disabled in user's public_html by default11:06
ActionParsnipGyro54: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install thunderbird11:07
Gyro54LinuxMonkey: Apt-get update didnt change the version?11:07
ActionParsnipGyro54: make sure you backup your mail first11:08
shreddingTzunamii: it says it is at the actual version (0 installed, 0 changed and 2 not uptaded)11:08
Gyro54ActionParsnip: Thanks .. was getting very frustrating11:08
shreddingjrib: How may I do that?11:08
oCeanshredding: jrib is correct11:08
Tzunamiishredding: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172117711:08
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van7huhi everyone, I am new to kerberos, when it comes to client, I want to install "krbadmi55", apt-get states that libkdb5-4 and libgssrpc4 replaced it, please give me some advices, I am using lucid11:09
LinuxMonkeyActionParsnip:  why a PPA...;p11:09
oCeanshredding: in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php.conf is a description on how to re-enable it, but be aware that the default disabled option is there for a (security) reason11:09
shreddingjirib, oCean, Tzunamii: But I'm in ~/www not ~/public_html11:09
TzunamiiPersonally I always rename public_html to .www personally, but that's just me. Not related to the Q though11:10
oCeanPersonally, I will never provide www documents from my homedir11:11
shreddingWell, that did not help.11:11
jribshredding: clear your browser's cache11:11
Tzunamiishredding: Have you cleared the browser's cache?11:11
oCeanshredding: what do you mean when you say "that" did not help11:12
shreddingoCean: I mean that the files are getting still downloaded11:12
shreddingClearing the cache helped!11:13
ActionParsnipLinuxMonkey: user is using natty11:13
shreddingoCean: Tzunamii: jrib: tsimpson: You're brilliant.11:13
oCeannot me :)11:13
shreddingjust of interest: What is the security reason and does it affect me on my personal desktop?11:13
oCeanshredding: usually www files (both html and scripts etc) are offered from a (separate) webroot/webdirectory. In that way they are not able to do any harm to the rest of the system11:14
oCean(if configured correctly that is)11:14
jribshredding: if you're the only user on the system, it should not be an issue11:14
shreddingThanks.11:15
oCeanjust don't make it available over the Internet :)11:15
TzunamiiOne way is to use symlinks and set it up the proper way11:15
Brustofski-FanUbuntu 12.04 installed gdm.. How do i change login screen themes??11:15
Brustofski-Fanin gnome-shell11:16
icerootBrustofski-Fan: why gdm? and not lightdm?11:16
Brustofski-Faniceroot, guess probly because i have used gdm for years11:17
icerootBrustofski-Fan: like gnome2? :)11:17
Brustofski-Fanyes11:18
ActionParsnipBrustofski-Fan: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/change-gdm-theme-background-in-ubuntu.html11:18
Gyro54Thanks again for your help!11:18
Brustofski-Fanbut like gnome shell better11:18
ActionParsnipBrustofski-Fan: gdm is coded using gtk3 ;)11:18
zgrus.archive.ubuntu.com is down?11:20
ActionParsnipzgr: works here11:20
ActionParsnipzgr: try: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/11:20
yeatszgr: nope11:20
zgrok thanks11:21
Brustofski-FanActionParsnip, i knew it used gtk3. sence it's part of gnome311:21
zgrI've got my dns messed up11:21
ActionParsnipBrustofski-Fan: indeedy, the app should help11:21
ActionParsnipzgr: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null11:21
ActionParsnipzgr: should be ok11:21
rdzhi all. how can i disable icons in menus in 12.04?11:22
zgrActionParsnip: yes already did that)11:22
ActionParsniprdz: which menus?11:22
maylowhi11:22
maylowi have a question about fontconfig11:22
maylowcannot find a clue in gogle11:22
maylowthat is - how do i use the <not> tag in .font.config11:22
FloodBot1maylow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:23
rdzActionParsnip, in gnome applications like evolution11:23
eutheriahi, does anyone know how to get eclipse and global menu working?11:23
eutheriaor even if it is possibe?11:24
maylowanyone, any thoughts?11:24
deufraieutheria: please explain ?11:24
eutheriadeufrai, well am i right in thinking that the global menu is the menu that appears at the top of the screen taking the menu bar out of the app and placing it in the top bar11:24
eutheriafor some reason the menubar in eclipse appears in the app11:25
deufraieutheria: gotcha. Haven't tried Eclipse with Unity yet11:25
Brustofski-FanActionParsnip, That app would help if it was in the repo11:26
ActionParsnipeutheria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69815/can-i-make-eclipse-use-the-ubuntu-global-menu11:26
ActionParsnipBrustofski-Fan: i guess, could submit a bug11:26
eutheriaActionParsnip, yeah i read that too, but This doesn't respond to the question of using the global AppMenu. This adds an entry in the dash/launcher.11:27
ActionParsnipeutheria: ahhhhh11:27
eutheriahehe :D11:27
eutheriacan you disable the panel?11:28
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strkany reason why "Update Manager" isn't prompting me to install 11.04LTS ?11:28
eutheriai would much rather have apps notify me in the top bar11:28
Jesterfloodbot111:30
eutheriaok next question, how can i make the menu always show?11:30
ActionParsnipeutheria: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu/+bug/61858711:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 618587 in Eclipse "eclipse does not work with appmenu" [Critical,Confirmed]11:30
Brustofski-FanActionParsnip, Only reason that link did not work because it only goes up to ubuntu 11.1011:32
Brustofski-Fan11.04 natty11:33
maylowhi11:36
maylowanyone familiar with fontconfig syntax?11:37
maylowfonconfig xml configuration syntax11:37
maria30hi11:37
icerootstrk: because there is no 11.04LTS11:39
ActionParsnipstrk: not all releases are LTS11:41
SidewinderThey are STS.11:41
The_BROSWhat is the best antivirus for Linux?11:42
ActionParsnipThe_BROS: there is no best antivirus for any OS11:42
gaelfxI have a broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card using STA drivers, but the connection is always11:42
ActionParsnipgaelfx: always what?11:42
gaelfx65mbps, but the hardware is capable of 150mbps, any way to fix that?11:43
gaelfxActionParsnip: sorry, someone knocked on the door and I reflexively hit the enter key11:43
ActionParsnipgaelfx: hehe, any bugs reported?11:43
LinuxMonkeyThe_BROS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus11:43
iceroot!virus | The_BROS11:44
ubottuThe_BROS: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus11:44
gaelfxActionParsnip: that's an excellent question, I wasn't able to find anything, but perhaps I need to search launchpad directly instead of googling11:44
ActionParsnipThe_BROS: you only need AV if you are running a file store with Windows clients, or an email server11:44
ActionParsnipgaelfx: maybe network-manager11:44
The_BROSThanx guys!11:45
fgHi11:45
gaelfxActionParsnip: I should also add that I'm sure it's not a router issue since my wife's computer and my tablet both connect at 150mbps11:46
eutheriais it possible to always show the global menu? i don't like having things hidden from me11:46
captineActionParsnip, i have a similar issue.  have wireless n wifi but it doesnt pick up my routers 5ghz SSID, but does the  2.4.  it also only connects to the 2.g at max 117mbit.   am using brand new dualband netgear running a 130 and 300mbit11:47
gaelfxActionParsnip: nothing on launchpad, just not working/connectivity issues, which is not what I'm experiencing. You think I need to look for bugs related to network manager?11:49
ActionParsnipcaptine: what speed is your internet?11:49
ActionParsnipeutheria: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27504/11:50
melodiehello, I have been on #ubuntu-dev but there is only one person there : isn't there another chan where more people stay ?11:50
ActionParsnipmelodie: here, or #ubuntu-offtopic11:51
gaelfxwhoa...apparently windows people are having trouble connecting faster than 65mbps too...that's extremely disconcerting!11:51
Sidewindermelodie, Or #ubuntu+1?11:51
melodieSidewinder, ?11:51
eutheriaActionParsnip, oh i take it that i can't do that right now, oh well, unity is much better than it used to be11:52
melodiethere is someone having for nick lars there11:52
Sidewindermelodie, There's 174 peeps, there, now.11:52
lars_melodie: i Joined it11:52
Prnvneed help with grub2. can anyone help me sort out the problem?11:52
lars_melodie: the channel is not registered11:52
merajhi can any one help me,i m nt able see my youtube videos in vlc player?11:52
ActionParsnipPrnv: whats the issue?11:52
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lars_The channel is not registered because there is no development version11:53
PrnvI formated bt5 and now i am unable to boot into ubuntu11:53
melodielars_, I am looking for a chan where I can ask advice to create a package : I have printed the doc but never done before and the compile works but has no configure...11:53
ActionParsnipPrnv: how do you mean "formatted bt5" do you mean you removed the partition?11:53
melodieSidewinder, where are there so many people ?11:53
lars_melodie: here you are right!11:53
Sidewindermelodie, In #ubuntu+1.11:54
PrnvYes using gparted through live cd11:54
lars_!ask  | melodie11:54
ubottumelodie: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:54
ActionParsnipPrnv: you can chroot to ubuntu in liveCD and install grub to the mbr again etc11:54
fgI nstalled nvidia driver but it is not working and the screen is smaller than before.11:54
ActionParsnipfg: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig11:55
Sidewindermelodie, There's 1688, here. :)11:55
merajlars_can u help me?11:55
lars_meraj: yes for sure. where is the Problem11:55
Prnvi dont have livecd of 11.o4 and i came to know its not possible to fix it with 10.04 which i am having11:56
fgActionParsnip: I tried it.not worked:(11:56
Pr0nfl4k35Is there anyone else out there, who experienced massive problems with ubuntu 12.04 64 bit after upgrading from 11.10?11:56
eutheriawhen i do alt-tab the icons displayed are huge and distorted, can i make these icons 32x32 like they really should be?11:56
ActionParsnipPrnv: it will work as long as the CD is the same arch as the installed OS11:56
merajlars_i v downloaded youtube video bt nt able to ply in vlc player?11:56
melodielars_, i can ask dev questions here ? ok I shoot the question : the program is openbox-menu and does not exist in debian and in ubuntu, so I want to make a package; i got the doc and installed what is needed; i compiled successfully and I know what the build requires are and the requires for use (depends for the package). There is no ./configure : shall I meet with problems that are not likely to be said in the doc ? http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDeb11:56
melodieianPackaging11:56
Pr0nfl4k3511.10 ran perfectly, but now the OS crashes like every five minutes11:57
lars_you need codecs!11:57
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ActionParsnipPr0nfl4k35: test your RAM from grub11:57
oCeanPr0nfl4k35: please change your nick to something for appropriate for a family friendly channel11:57
[[thufir]]what user does apache run as under Ubuntu?  those processes are as "apache"?11:57
oCeanmore appropriate* even11:57
merajlars- i run the command ubuntu-restricted-extras aslso.11:57
[[thufir]]or maybe what group?  I'm having trouble with permissions for php files in /var/www and want to make the permissions correct.11:58
lars_meraj: realy?11:58
merajlars_for codec still nt able11:58
lars_Oh thats mystery meraj11:58
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merajlars_ya11:58
lars_Then i can not helo you meraj sry11:58
Prnvso that i tried to use grub rescue commands and have error when executing command start with insmode11:58
rbikhello, I'm trying to tell the computer that I am the admin and failing what location is the file for permision to write to root dir?11:59
merajlars_ ok buddy11:59
meraj@ all_can any one solve this problem?11:59
Sidewinderrbik, Just use sudo <command>.12:00
RainerwahnsinnActionParsnip: okay, but why? do you think my ram broke after the update?12:00
Sidewinderrbik, Or gksudo if you're running a gui based program.12:00
rbik:Sidewinder:thanks for the help!12:00
Sidewinderrbik, My pleasure. :)12:01
merajsidewinder_can u help me?12:01
zakidinehi everyone12:02
lasersTesting empathy once again... It does not have AIM? ;o12:02
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zakidineubuntu proposed me an update for flashplayer and i installed it12:03
zakidineand since then, videos on youtube etc do not work great12:03
zakidineis there a way to get the previous version ?12:03
RainerwahnsinnI think/hope its some kinda software problem, the screen gets partially black and nothing happens anymore.12:03
DragonSlaylasers: pidgin is way better12:03
lasersDragonSlay: I disagree! (Just kidding. I'm testing Gnome3)12:04
fgActionParsnip: Have you any idea?12:04
melodielars_, you see I asked and no one knows12:04
melodieso what's the point ?12:04
tontimerHi12:04
ActionParsnipfg: could read /var/log/Xorg.0.log  for clues12:05
tontimerIm using ubuntu 12.04 and I want to change the keyboard shortcuts, specifically the SUPER+T shortcut, which laucnh the trash12:06
MonkeyDusttontimer  system settings - keyboard - shortcuts12:07
oppalovesmeGOOD MORNING12:07
MonkeyDustcaps12:08
susan_HELLOOO12:08
melodiethks & bye12:08
Shojohi guys!12:08
melodiesusan_, no need to shout. ;-)12:08
oppalovesmewhat's up dawwwwg12:08
oppalovesme*z12:08
melodiesame for oppalovesme12:08
fgActionParsnip: Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/971240/12:08
oCeanoppalovesme: this is the ubuntu support channel, do you have a support issue?12:08
oppalovesmeoh okay12:08
oppalovesmeyes12:08
oppalovesmei do12:09
oppalovesmemy parents dont feed me, so i need support?12:09
susan_sorry melodie_12:09
oppalovesmeor do you mean breast support?12:09
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SteevcaxD12:09
MonkeyDustoppalovesme  wrong channel12:09
tontimerMonkeyDust: Nope12:09
darthdeushey guys, any idea on how to solve this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/132601/how-can-i-upgrade-nginx-after-adding-ppanginx-development12:10
susan_LOL12:10
tontimerIf it was that easy I wouldn't be here :p12:10
oCeansusan_: please don't use the CAPS, also do you have a support question?12:10
MonkeyDustdarthdeus  ppa's are not supported her, contact the maintainer12:10
MonkeyDusthere*12:10
darthdeusMonkeyDust: but the problem is not in ppa, but in apt sources ...12:11
susan_SORRY I DONT KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF CAPS12:11
DaekdroomPress the 'Caps Lock' key next to the 'a'12:11
phillipHerpa Derpa12:11
gaelfxcan anyone suggest a wireless/bluetooth combo card for a laptop that plays well in ubuntu?12:12
oCeanphillip: ?12:12
susan_YEAH12:12
alankilaI have an issue with 12.04 regarding gam_server and courier. It seems that I can't read my mail over imap sometimes until I kill gam_server12:12
alankilaI wonder what might be up with that12:12
Prnv<ActionParsnip> insmod /boot/grub/linux.mod gives error: the symbol 'grub_mm_base' not found. Any idea about it. I searched google and still I'am clueless12:12
gaelfxer, I should've added that I want it to connect at 300mbps12:12
alankilaI'll have to strace this next time it happens12:13
ActionParsnipdarthdeus: the PPA has the later version, run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nginx12:13
susan_WHATS UP EVERYONE?12:13
eutheriayou know what, it is really great that 12.04 is supported for 5 years12:13
darthdeusActionParsnip: that's what I did, and it says I have the newest version installed ... even though I'm on 1.0, which is from the stable branch, not the development12:13
eutheria3 years was a bit short for me to feel comfortable to give to someone12:13
MonkeyDustsusan_  press shift lock please12:14
ActionParsnipPrnv: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1746542.html12:14
tontimerAnyone know how to change the ubuntu 12.04 recycle bin shortcut? I've tried with dconf-editor and gconf but I cannot change it, any suggestion?12:15
tontimeralso with ccsm12:15
m477what is name of this panel at left in unity?12:15
ActionParsniptontimer: change it in what way?12:15
ActionParsnipm477: unity launcher12:15
tontimerActionParsnip: I want to use SUPER+T to launch a terminal12:15
tontimerbut every time i press the combination, the recycle bin launchs12:16
m477ActionParsnip: and I want to restart it, cuz it stopped but I cant find that command12:16
ActionParsniptontimer: might be defined in CCSM, if you use terminal a lot I suggest you install guake12:17
hackmasterHWDP12:17
ActionParsnipm477: are you running unity2d?12:17
m477ActionParsnip: indeed12:17
hackmasterunity 3d12:17
tontimerActionParsnip: not in ccsm either... and I never liked guake12:18
ActionParsnipm477: me too, http://paste.ubuntu.com/971253/12:18
eutheriadoes the xscreensaver still give you the old widget set when you lock the terminal?12:19
ActionParsnipm477: make sure you have tose running12:19
ActionParsniptontimer: or tilda12:19
tontimerthe problem is I'm spanish and I use tilda quite a lot...12:20
fgActionParsnip: ?12:20
Prnv<ActionParsnip> thanks. I'm going to give it a try.12:20
irenicus09tontimer: what does using tilda have to do with being spanish ? :P12:21
irenicus09actually I'm indian so I use guake a lot12:21
tontimerwell wait12:21
tontimerwhat's tilda for you?12:21
tontimermaybe im wrong12:21
ActionParsniptontimer: similar to guake12:21
tontimerlol I thought you were talking about accents12:22
irenicus09o.012:22
MonkeyDust!info tilda| tontimer12:22
ubottu'tontimer' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, stable, testing, unstable12:22
gaelfxthe tilde (~) is used to accent certain letters in certain languages12:22
MonkeyDust!info tilda | tontimer12:22
ubottutontimer: tilda (source: tilda): terminal emulator with first person shooter console likeness. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.6-2 (precise), package size 78 kB, installed size 588 kB12:22
tontimerI tought you were telling me to use the "tilde" key to bring the terminal :p12:22
B|tchX!bitchx12:22
ubottubitchx (also known as ircii-pana) was dropped from Debian and subsequently Ubuntu (see: http://dy.fi/afb). Consider using irssi or weechat instead.12:22
tontimer!xbitch12:23
gaelfx!botabuse | B|tchX tontimer12:23
ubottuB|tchX tontimer: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".12:23
ActionParsniptontimer: you can if you install the app12:23
B|tchXlol12:23
tontimermeh12:23
tontimerill survive without that12:23
ActionParsniptontimer: easier to launch a terminal12:24
gaelfxActionParsnip: I think I figured out the problem with the wireless, apparently this card uses Draft N, even though they put it a new computer (Asus 1225B). That, coupled with the fact that there's no dimm slot for expanding memory is making me think Asus has lost its mind12:26
ActionParsnipgaelfx: what speed is your web connection?12:27
aLeSDhi all12:28
aLeSDis it possible to add gnome-classic on ubuntu 12.04 ?12:28
m477ActionParsnip: I tried unity --reset-icons to restart that panel and it crashed my PC12:28
gaelfxActionParsnip: that's not the issue, I need the speed for LAN activity, streaming 1080p video12:28
SidewinderaLeSD, This may be what you're lookin' for: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/12:29
ActionParsnipaLeSD: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/12:29
ActionParsnipsnips12:29
SidewinderHeh,.12:29
ActionParsnipgaelfx: how big is your screen?12:29
ActionParsnipgaelfx: that yuo watch the vids on?12:29
gaelfxdoes www.azurewave.com work for anyone else?12:29
ActionParsnipgaelfx: site is up, just slow12:30
gaelfxActionParsnip: the resolution is 1366x768, which I realize is only sufficient for 720p, but I've already got a lot of videos in 1080p12:30
aLeSDSidewinder, ActionParsnip thanks12:30
eutheriai think the left hand panel should be 100% and the top panel should fit around that12:30
gaelfxActionParsnip: thanks for checking, seems GFW is blocking it, it's probably another Taiwan company12:30
eutheriathe ubuntu button at the top of the menu should be the most prominent thing on the screen like the windows start button12:31
zambawhat is going on with ubuntu server these days?12:31
zambai've had several lucid installations just randomly crashing12:31
zambatotally different hardware.. nothing in syslog and just random reboots12:31
SidewinderaLeSD, Our pleasure. :)12:31
zambaand of course reboots with a stupid disk error during bootup.. which is utterly idiotic on a remote system12:31
ActionParsnipzamba: tried booting the old kernel?12:32
zambait replies to ping, but it's stuck with an error which prevents it from booting and bringing up sshd12:32
zambaso now i have a server remotely that replies to icmp, but that i can't log into12:32
intorehi, could someone help me on samba-ldap? i have problems mounting the directory of homes users from the server on my client. i installed pam_mount but am not sure about the configuration.12:32
fgActionParsnip: Thanks :)12:32
ActionParsnipgaelfx: I'd use a wired connection :) all I can suggest is report a bug, or get a better wifi chip12:32
eutheriacan thunderbird be started minimised?12:32
ActionParsnipeutheria: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/minimize-on-start-and-close/12:33
eutheriathanks ActionParsnip ;) you sure google fast :)12:33
tontimerhi again12:34
tontimerone more question :p12:34
tontimerI recently switched from gentoo and I was wondering if it's possible to compile every single package instead of just intalling a precompiled one12:35
fgI nstalled nvidia driver but it is not working and the screen is smaller than before. Can anyone help?12:35
tontimerSomething like an option to apt12:35
llutz_tontimer: sure, but why does one want that to do?12:35
fgI nstalled nvidia driver but it is not working and the screen is smaller than before. Can anyone help?12:35
tontimerllutz well I'm interested in use every optimization for mi proc12:35
gaelfx_ActionParsnip: could you tell me the ip address of that site you just checked for me? DNS is failing for me12:35
tontimerspeed!12:35
llutz_tontimer: then you better stay with gentoo12:36
oCean!compiling | tontimer12:36
ubottutontimer: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)12:36
pgampehi all, I can not click the secure now button in preferences/backups (deja-dup)12:36
ActionParsnipgaelfx_: 118.163.2.1912:36
oCeantontimer: you can use apt-get source <packagename> to fetch the sources12:37
gaelfx_ActionParsnip: thanks a heap12:37
pgampewhat can be missing?12:37
tontimeryup12:37
tontimerI was looking for someting more automted12:37
tontimerlike emerge12:37
tontimerwell Ill keep looking12:37
ActionParsniptontimer: there is apt-build12:37
ActionParsniptontimer: very similar to emerge12:38
llutz_tontimer: using a binary distro to compile all the stuff on your own won't make much sense. though it's possible but ... more difficult12:38
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dom_hello ,who can tell me how to crack the password of a wireless net12:39
dom_thanks a lot12:40
icerootdom_: not supported here12:40
llutz_dom_: read "man aircrack-ng"12:40
cboxlol, Not supported here, but go read this...12:40
DoctorPepperhi guys !!!12:40
dom_ok ,sorry to borther everyone.thanks a lot12:41
himawijayates12:41
pgampeanyone ... deja-dup+windows share, but "secure now" button can not be clicked ... what might be missing?12:41
DoctorPepperis anyone here  using  kvm .  i have small issue creating  a OSX vm .  i am unable to  boot the vm12:42
madlatviananyone for chit chat ?12:42
gaelfxActionParsnip: well, thanks for the IP. Finally confirmed that max speed for the card is 65mbps (I can't believe it was so hard to find the info)12:42
ActionParsnipgaelfx: sounds alright12:42
oCeanmadlatvian: this channel is for tech support, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit chat12:43
gaelfxit's actually pretty hilarious, on the page, they first say Max speed says 65mbps, but lower it says connect up to 150mbps12:43
gaelfxhttp://118.163.2.19/product_AW-NB047_1.asp12:43
captinehi all.  My 12.04 regularly locks up.  It is very common when opening Skype.  anyone able to offer some advice on how i can see what causes the lock up?  It completely freezes and i need to hold the power button in to shut down then turn back on12:44
ActionParsnipgaelfx: its not wrong, 'up to' means, 'any value below'12:44
pgampesorry, was away12:44
captineam running the  latest skype beta12:44
ActionParsnipgaelfx: it could say "up to 2Tb/s" and be right12:44
xtui want to is there any voice control software or method to voice control12:44
ActionParsnipxtu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux12:45
gaelfxI hate marketing12:45
ActionParsnipcaptine: test ram in grub12:45
ActionParsnipgaelfx: indeed, its clever though12:45
gaelfxalmost as much as I hate "specifications"12:45
ActionParsnipgaelfx: but a good usb adapter known to work well with ubuntu and connect it internally if possible (sounds like a laptop)12:46
xtuok, ActionParsnip , thanks very much>12:48
ActionParsnipnp12:48
Sidewindercaptine, I can't help you with skype, sorry. But using the power button is not recommended in ubuntu; please see what ubottu is about to suggest>12:49
Sidewinder!reisub | captine12:49
ubottucaptine: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key12:49
madlatvianany one know how ubuntu's work is going with the arm processor12:50
ForgeAusdoes KDM use X? or is it something else?12:50
oCean!arm | madlatvian12:51
ubottumadlatvian: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.12:51
fahmyboyHi All,  can anyone suggest what is the best way to sync an ipod?12:51
fahmyboyis it itunes + wine?12:51
ForgeAusI think there might be something wrong with my display ... I don't know whats going on here, just seems to be one disaster after another12:51
ActionParsnip!appdb | fahmyboy12:53
ubottufahmyboy: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help12:53
ubuntunobodyhi, anyone else getting weird python errors w/ apport-gtk after upgrading to 12.04, any ideas how to fix?12:54
ActionParsnipfahmyboy: rhythmbox may do it, there is also ifuse which may help. The only real way I've seen is run virtualbox (non OSE version) and run a full windows install then install iTunes12:54
smfgonna use windows now, so ican use the LATEST free open source software such as gimp 2.812:55
smfwith ubuntu, you always using old free open source software12:55
smfthe best platform for free open source software is windows12:55
fahmyboyhi Parsnip12:55
smfwith windows you always have access to the very latest free open source software12:55
madlatvianwhat are you out of your mind12:56
fahmyboywhat is virtual box?12:56
smfvirtualbox is a virtual machine12:56
oCeansmf: if you just came to rant, please do that somewhere else12:56
SidewinderDon't feed the troll.12:56
smfwhy the fuck can windows ppl have gimp 2.8 but i cant?12:56
ForgeAusits a subsystem that runs a virtual computer in a window basically12:56
ForgeAusthats waht a virtual box is :)12:56
fahmyboyoh ok.12:57
dom_hello,i just install the ubuntu 12.04.and i want to install a 3d desktop,who can tell me how to do that12:57
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ActionParsnipfahmyboy: its a way to run another OS inside another, your ipod thing needs windows because apple sucks12:58
ActionParsnipfahmyboy: so to manipulate your device fully you will need to run 2 OSes at the same time, or dual boot12:58
fahmyboyoh ok.  so you recommend I install windows?12:58
ActionParsnipfahmyboy: or you could get a device that doesn't need itunes and be free12:58
fahmyboythat is a depressing solution :)12:59
ForgeAusdom_:  3d desktop? you mean like compiz a desktop cube? or12:59
ForgeAusdom_:  just some 3d enviroment where you place your windows?12:59
dom_yes ,it the first12:59
xtuhello, dom12:59
ForgeAusif you don't have it, try sudo apt-get compiz I guess12:59
ForgeAusoops forgot the install bit there13:00
ForgeAusin terminal sudo apt-get install compiz13:00
LinuxMonkey!ipod | fahmyboy13:00
ubottufahmyboy: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod13:00
jp_wanNhey :)13:00
jp_wanNcan anybody tell me how to add a program to startup (with "Startup Applications") with a delay?13:00
ActionParsnipcompiz is in a default ubuntu install13:00
ForgeAus(unless unity or gnome do compositing now)13:00
dom_ok ,is there any needs to display that effect?13:00
dom_to my computer13:01
ActionParsnipfahmyboy: you have a device from one of the most closed minded companies around, what did you expect13:01
jp_wanNI tried using "sleep 10s && gmusicbrowser -play" but it doesn't work13:01
maddog320hi all13:01
jp_wanNit only works from terminal, not with Alt+F2 and not in Startup Applications13:01
ForgeAusdom_ I guess you just have to configure compiz then, check settings?13:01
ActionParsnipjp_wanN: make a script, then add the script, may work13:01
jp_wanNmaddog320: hi13:01
jp_wanNActionParsnip: I know thath would work but i don't like that solution13:02
dom_and i just have installed the ubuntu13:02
jp_wanNi don't want to make a script for everything13:02
ActionParsnipdom_: you'll need 3D accelleration to get the effects13:03
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dom_and do nothing else13:03
maddog320hi guys just did a fresh install of the lates ubuntu distro and it seem buggy and slow. im running it on a toshiba saterlight c660 intel core i3.Any ideas what it might be13:03
SimulatorCIAO13:03
Simulatorragazzi13:03
SidewinderHere comes the list.13:03
ActionParsnipmaddog320: what GPU are you using?13:03
SimulatorHO un problema13:03
oCeanSidewinder: please, don't do that13:03
oCean!it | Simulator13:04
ubottuSimulator: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:04
SidewinderoCean, Sorry. :)13:04
SimulatorAh sorry13:04
gaelfxis the flash plugin included with Chrome only included on 32-bit chrome?13:04
maddog320ActionParsnip, erm not to shore im a newbie sorry13:04
ActionParsnipmaddog320: lspci | grep -i vga    will see13:04
dom_ActionParsnip,thanks a lot .i think you are right13:04
ActionParsnipgaelfx: there is 64bit flash too, it's in the partner repo13:05
dom_i just need a 3d acc```13:05
maddog320ActionParsnip, ill go look now13:05
gaelfxActionParsnip: yeah, I know, but it can't download in China for some reason, or at least it's incredibly slow13:05
jp_wanNActionParsnip: Isn't it possible to just put the two commands into brackets or sth like that?13:05
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llutz_jp_wanN: ( sleep 10 ; whatever -option )13:07
maddog320ActionParsnip, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)13:07
empiricguys i wnat to migrate data from old plesk to new plesk13:07
empirichow can i13:07
oCeanempiric: ask the plesk maintainers?13:07
empiricwhere13:08
MonkeyDustwhat's plesk?13:08
ActionParsnipjp_wanN: not sure to be honest, coud try:  sh -c 'sleep 10 && gmusicbrowser -play'       as the command13:08
oCeanempiric: maybe from the site/sources where you downloaded the software?13:08
ActionParsnip!info plesk13:08
ubottuPackage plesk does not exist in precise13:08
jp_wanNllutz_: doesn't work (not with Alt+F2)13:09
saeMonkeyDust: I think it is part of KDE13:09
oCeanempiric: there is even an ##plesk channel in this network, so try /join ##pleask13:09
oCeanerr13:09
oCean/join ##plesk13:09
Jwl81hi, does anyone know how do I get japanese characters showing on ubuntu server? I currently have 2 problems, 1 i can't see japanese file names (they show up as random alphabets and numbers) 2 my samba share sees that too.13:09
jp_wanNActionParsnip: Thanks, works :)13:09
ActionParsnipjp_wanN: np :)13:10
ActionParsnipjp_wanN: seems you can only have one command, but we can work around it ;)13:10
m477how run terminal on 12.04 :/ commands like terminal doesnt work ...13:10
MonkeyDustm477  gnome-terminal13:11
gameidm477: ctrl-alt-t13:11
jp_wanNActionParsnip: Yes, I had a similar problem some time ago and there i used a script but now i know i don't have to :)13:11
m477no graphic menu is very bodering13:11
belkinsaIs there a way to only use one folder that is on your main drive and have it always updating the same folder on another drive (i.e connected USB drive) everytime you update a file in that folder?13:12
Jwl81does anyone know how do I mount a drive to show japanese characters? i tried 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137' but it doesn't help13:12
MonkeyDustbelkinsa  ln -s13:12
belkinsaI figured it was that.  Thanks.13:13
dan__dan13:13
ThinkT510m477: hit the super key and type in "ter", first thing for me, i usually add it to the launcher13:13
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Guest55174ter13:13
MayazcherquoiIs it possible to reserve, say, like 5% CPU? So a program can't cause my Ubuntu to crash?13:15
belkinsaDoes the drive that you want to make a symbolic link have to be the same file system type?13:16
Mayazcherquoibelkinsa: No.13:16
belkinsaThanks.13:16
madlatvianyou an in other unix operating systems13:17
llutz_belkinsa: you cannot create symlinks on non-unix fs13:17
alankilaMayazcherquoi: can you clarify. the process scheduler normally dumps programs that use a lot of cpu into the low-priority statuses13:17
belkinsaSo, that means FAT?13:17
alankilaMayazcherquoi: so any other program that in general uses less cpu is given priority and therefore it may even be hard to tell that a cpu hog is running13:17
ActionParsnipbelkinsa: and NTFS13:17
Mayazcherquoialankila: Well, VirtualBox was just then killing my CPU. It took like 5 minutes to get into CTRL+ALT+F1, another 10 to log in, and another 5 to kill the process.13:18
alankilaMayazcherquoi: you may have been out of memory rather13:18
ActionParsnipMayazcherquoi: set the assigned ram to the virtual system to a lower value13:18
alankilabecause no matter what virtualbox does, if it has orindary priority it can at most take 50 % of your cpu13:18
belkinsaHow to undo a cut after a paste?13:18
Mayazcherquoialankila: I seriously doubt that. Considering it was only taking up 400Mb of my RAM (I have 2GB).13:19
Jwl81Why does Japanese Character Filenames appear as question marks in my ubuntu server command line? I've installed the fonts… 'sudo apt-get install ttf-takao'13:19
B|tchXwhat editor belkinsa13:19
belkinsaNevermind.13:19
MayazcherquoiAnd what are you guys talking about? I've symlinked to an NTFS drive...13:19
belkinsaWell, it's you basic file manger on Ubuntu 12.04.13:20
belkinsathe graghical one13:20
stefgHi room, did anyone already manage to successfully unmap the F10 keybinding ... i tried gconf-editor, dconf-editor and the keyboard settings applet ... but hitting F10 (to quit mc) still brings up that annoying contect menu13:20
B|tchXln -s /media/externaldrive13:21
ThinkT510 belkinsa nautilus is default13:21
belkinsaYeah13:21
belkinsaI know.13:21
jribstefg: it used to be in the preferences menu for gnome-terminal13:21
stefgjrib: in 12.04 it seems to be set in a gazillion places ... disabling it in the gnome-terminal profile doesn't do anything13:22
* stefg consideres this as a bug13:22
belkinsaI did a cut and paste and somehow deleted those files but I cannot see them in the trash.13:22
potzblitzi have updated to 12.04 via the update manager. after reboot the upd mgr says that an update procedure has not properly been completed. partial update is suggested, but this fails. i tried apt-get update, in13:22
potzblitzstall -f, dist-upgrade, which don't help. what can i do else?13:22
jribstefg: what does it do when you press it?13:23
belkinsaHow to get these files back?13:24
qwebirc7324when i started the computer this morning, i noticed nautilus won't let me load my home folders (i.e. docs, downloads, etc) without my root password, what gives?13:24
saepotzblitz: which version did you update from?13:24
B|tchXnow I'm in the mood to link my external and use that as home13:24
stefgjrib: i have mc running in a terminal... hitting F10 brings up the 'really quit?' dialog of mc (as expected), but at the same time a desktop context menu (like right-click) pops up on the desktop and steals focus13:25
jribqwebirc7324: pastebin output of: ls -ld / /home ~ ~/Downloads ~/downloads13:25
potzblitzsae, 11.1013:26
jribstefg: I see... some unity thing then.  No idea13:26
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jribstefg: maybe confirm that by trying xterm13:26
belkinsaUpgrading from versions are ussally not successfull.13:26
jribbelkinsa: please do not say nonsense13:26
MonkeyDustbelkinsa  i did it without problems13:27
cboxi've never had an issue upgrading13:27
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cboxi've done it to many machines13:27
Jwl81Hi, I need help with Japanese filenames in ubuntu server. They're all showing up as ???? and my samba share sees them as alpbabets+numbers. I suspect i need to mount it correctly but I've used 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137' and I've installed the fonts 'sudo apt-get install ttf-takao'13:27
stefgjrib: the major annoyance is that i already unbound it in two places (gconf/dconf-editor) ... and it still seems to be mapped /somewhere/13:28
qwebirc7324jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/971381/ but, thunar does not have this problem...??13:28
jribqwebirc7324: press "reload" in nautilus13:28
jribstefg: is this you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37313/how-do-i-deactivate-f1-and-f10-keybindings :)13:29
Mayazcherquoialankila: Okay, it's definitely CPU usage.13:29
gaelfxI'm using NFS to mount a drive from another computer on startup to my user's home folder, but sometimes it takes a really long time to get the file lists, other times it's very snappy. Currently, it's loading very slow, is there any way to figure out why?13:29
a_b0yi finally fixed all of my ubuntu problems!!!13:30
qwebirc7324jrib: ok i refreshed nautilus. i notice now, that it isn't nautilus that causes this, it's using the "places" section in gnome 3 classic mode.13:30
jribqwebirc7324: ok13:30
gaelfxa_b0y: congrats13:30
a_b0yi should have just installed windows a long time ago, everything just works13:30
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stefgjrib: i've read that... but it still didn't help... BTW when using xterm everything works as expected. somehow gnome-terminal ssems to pass the keypress to unity13:31
jriba_b0y: do you have an actual ubuntu support question?  If so, please ask it13:31
captineHi all.  Something weird happening on my machine.  not sure if this came through.  Am having repeated crashed when starting Skype.  Entire system freezes and need to hold button in to shut down.  Sometimes it opens, but am having repeated freezes while using 12.04 and am assuming all linked to skype13:31
jribstefg: and you went to gnome-terminal → edit →  keyboard shortcuts, and unchecked "enable the menu shortcut key"?  I'm asking because you mentioned "gnome-terminal profile" earlier but this is not part of profile dialog13:31
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captineanyone know how to check if skype is the cause (it is easy to tell when opening skype and iit freezes, but sometimes skype opens ok and later i freeze up13:31
gaelfxcaptine: 32 or 64-bit? how did you install skype?13:32
captinegaelfx: 64 bit and installed from skype website, if i remember correctly..13:32
captinesorry, from packages13:32
gaelfxcaptine: also, does the sound play properly when you open it or does it not make any sound at all?13:32
neureso im installing mini.iso13:32
MonkeyDustcaptine  skype is also in the partnet repo13:32
MonkeyDustpartner*13:32
neurei am now at "choose software to install" page13:32
captinegaelfx: skype not making any sounds when opening and closing...13:33
neurewhich one is the minimal / smallest?13:33
botcitygaelfx: what is the drive? if it has to spin up it will have a delay13:33
stefgjrib: yup! I got used to the stupid default in gnome-terminal... that's teh fist thing i do agter installing mc... but it does nothing13:33
gaelfxcaptine: is it actually freezing or just making the system really slow to respond?13:33
ActionParsnipgaelfx: 64bit skype is just 32bit with 32bit compatibility, you install a lot of 32bit extra libs when you install '64bit skype'13:33
gaelfxbotcity: it's an HDD, but as I said, sometimes it loads fine, other times it takes a while, though once I open a file, such as a video, the video plays fine13:34
captinegaelfx: complete freeze.  no mouse movement.  hdd light on permanently.13:34
gaelfxcaptine: how long did you try to wait it out?13:34
MonkeyDustcaptine  delete it and then reinstall from the canonical partner repo13:34
captinegaelfx: i had installed skype on 11.10, when did the  upgrade.  when searching software center for skype, there is a package there but it doesnt show installed.  perhaps I should somehow remove skype and re-install?13:34
captineMonkeyDust: how do i remove it?13:35
gaelfxcaptine: it might help, but when I was running the Beta, I had a similar problem, though only intermittently, I had to wait it out and then check that it was using pulse for the sound server13:36
qwebirc7324why would the gnome menu bar require a password to access home folders?13:36
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captinegaelfx: is yours stable now though?13:36
Jwl81Hi everyone, I mounted a usb drive specifying utf8 but japanese file names are still all showing as ??? can anyone help me? i used the command 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137'13:37
gaelfxcaptine: yeah, I'm not having trouble with it right now, I downloaded from Skype website and installed13:37
jribstefg: and if you press f10 on your desktop, does it do anything?  What about in an application like gedit or some other likely-unity-friendly one13:37
REK_007ok i have a made a script which requires root and I want to run it at every start up how do i go about doing this?13:37
ToMo_captine confirm freeze, but after about 30 secs it unblocks and everything works fine again13:37
jribREK_007: what does the script do exactly?13:38
REK_007jrib: it "mount --bind <location> <target>"13:38
stefgjrib: F10 always pops up the context menu (depanding on application)... it simulates a right click. i could live with that if it wasn't mc's exit button13:38
jribREK_007: why aren't you using /etc/fstab?13:40
REK_007jrib: cause its for mounting folders to another location13:40
jribREK_007: so?13:40
REK_007jrib: i dont know how to put in a bind command on fstab13:41
mi3hello13:41
saestefg: can you remap mc's exit key to something else?13:41
mi3can someone give me suggestions on how to install java on my ubuntu 12.04?13:41
jribREK_007: read man page or google "mount bind fstab" (sorry that will be easiest for you I think, but let me know if your search results are confusing.)13:41
captinegaelfx: just removed and re-installed skype.  still no sound when loading, but under options it shows that PulseAudio is being used...13:42
arinovпочему я не могу прочитать microsd карту?13:42
najam!13:42
REK_007ok jrib i will do so13:42
captinewill wait and see how it lasts13:42
ThinkT510!java | mi313:42
ubottumi3: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.13:42
ActionParsnip[3~13:42
jribREK_007: (I think you just pass "bind" as an option in fstab)13:42
arinovoh english support...13:42
gaelfx!ru | arinov13:42
ubottuarinov: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.13:42
ActionParsnipmi3: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html13:42
tNjrib: Or simply put 'mount --bind /whatever /wherever' into /etc/rc.local on boot.13:43
jribtN: eww rc.local13:43
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tan_hello13:44
countfuzzballjrib: rc.local is the best thing since sliced bread. :P13:44
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qwebirc7324jrib: any ideas? i have narrowed this down to the places folder. If i just run nautilus, I get full access without a password. if I use the places menu, i need access..13:44
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mi3ActionParsnip, these are all browser plugins, I need the java runtime, like I should be able to open .jar files13:44
neweruser123hello13:44
neweruser123i need some help13:44
jribqwebirc7324: I don't know13:44
vsilvexit13:44
gaelfx!ask | neweruser12313:44
ubottuneweruser123: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:44
eutheriais mutter not the unity window manager anymore?13:45
neweruser123i downloaded amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run but i dont know how to install it13:45
countfuzzballneweruser123: make it executable and then run it in a terminal.13:45
stefgsae: mc can be used by [esc}+[number] (for dumb terminals) so esc+0 always works. but i would have to retrain my "wrist memory" and i have other boxen without unity, so this isn't really an option13:45
neweruser123how do i do that13:45
neweruser123i only get kubuntu yesterday13:45
saeneweruser123: please have a look at this wiki: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page13:46
neweruser123so what Am I looking at13:46
neweruser123i just want to double click  and install13:47
countfuzzballneweruser123: should be similar to windows, just rightclick on it, go to properties or somesuch and change it to executable.13:47
neweruser123ok il try13:47
countfuzzballThen double click it and select 'run in terminal'13:47
saeneweruser123:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide13:47
aseloxHello, can anyone help me with this: http://lh.rs/aEw63Tylnnd3 ?13:49
saeaselox: what is at that link?13:51
OerHeksaselox what is your need for help?13:51
`prixonhello13:51
aseloxa video of my problem13:51
OerHeksI just see a moving terminal .13:52
OerHeksaselox, pleae explain13:52
OerHeks*please13:52
aseloxlook at the border of the terminal13:52
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aseloxit's a graphic problem13:54
MonkeyDustaselox  describe what's wrong13:56
OerHeksaselox please explain?13:56
aseloxMonkeyDust, if i move a windows like the video the border is not regular like a lag in the update of the screen. I thought it was a driver problem but the system doesn't suggest me another one13:57
sloop66614:00
ThinkT510sloop666: perplexing eh?14:00
chusloop666: Yes?14:00
neweruser123i made the file executable14:01
neweruser123but its stil not woking14:01
ThinkT510neweruser123: perhaps some background info might help14:02
neweruser123basically i have no audio14:04
neweruser123A75-D3H mobo14:04
neweruser123A6 APU14:04
neweruser123HDMi connection, to monitor built in speakers14:05
escottneweruser123, why did you think making something executable would help with the sound?14:05
ThinkT510escott: he may be building up to that14:05
neweruser123no that was the AMD driver i am trying to install14:05
neweruser123i downloaded it from the site its a .run file14:05
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neweruser123no wait I dont even know why im downloading the AMD driver14:07
neweruser123the monitor is fine14:07
neweruser123I just want sound working14:07
ThinkT510neweruser123: what does alsamixer show?14:08
escottneweruser123, also what is the output of "sudo lshw -C sound"14:08
MonkeyDustneweruser123  in a terminal, type alsamixer - if you see MM (mute), go there and press m14:09
tizianociao14:09
ThinkT510neweruser123: word of warning: installing stuff from outside the repos is an almost surefire way to cause dependency issues and break your system14:09
tiziano!list14:10
gaelfxneweruser123: did you check in sound settings to see if HDMI audio is an available device?14:10
ubottutiziano: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:10
ThinkT510!it | tiziano14:10
ubottutiziano: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:10
neweruser123no MM in alsamixer14:10
neweruser123can someone do team viewer with me14:10
neweruser123i realy dont understand this14:10
ThinkT510neweruser123: i'll take a look14:10
neweruser123ok14:10
seizerk14:12
m477unity is based on compiz?14:13
escottm477, yes14:14
m477so that is why it crashes all the time14:15
OverkillGuydid not know about unity14:15
OverkillGuybut sure, it explains a lot14:15
clausenI get lots of messages like this in my syslog:14:16
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clausenMay  6 10:16:31 computer kernel: [ 2595.359503] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed14:16
clausenMay  6 10:16:31 computer kernel: [ 2595.359526] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through14:16
clausenI don't have any disk called sdb14:16
gaelfx!pb | clausen14:16
ubottuclausen: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:16
clausen(nor any external devices attached)14:17
OverkillGuyis xfce really lighter than the usual desktop environments ?14:19
clausenOverkillGuy, I don't feel like it is any lighter14:19
clausenbut if you like the "old" gnome, then maybe you prefer it to Unity et al14:19
OverkillGuyyou read my mind ;)14:19
clausen:)14:20
OverkillGuyI'm hesitating to try xubuntu as a live usb14:20
clausenOverkillGuy, I'm using xfce directly -- apt-get install xfce414:21
clausenit's a bit buggy though14:21
OverkillGuyI expected as much ;)14:21
clausen(maybe I should go back to 10.04 LTS)14:21
OerHeks!nounity14:21
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:21
clausenOerHeks, oh, thanks!  I didn't know about the gnome-panel option14:22
OverkillGuyneat yeah14:22
OverkillGuybut the fallback had some weird issues (probably easy to solve but did'nt have the time)14:23
OverkillGuyso I ended up installing Linux Mint14:24
* OverkillGuy is ashamed14:24
MonkeyDustOverkillGuy  i use fallback too, no problems here14:24
sirknightneweruser123,  hows it going?14:24
sirknightanyone need help?14:25
HalabundI got the Ubuntu Precise Live CD with the intention to install the OS, but the Live CD won't boot.  After about 5 minutes, the booting process stalls.  The ubuntu logo is in the middle of the screen, but nothing happens any more.14:27
HalabundHas anyone encountered this problem?14:27
clausenHalabund, maybe the CD is corrupted?14:27
Halabundclausen, it isn't corrupted, I verified it after burning.14:27
clausenHalabund, can you switch virtual console with ctrl-alt-f1, -f2, -f3, etc.?14:28
clausensometimes there's useful info there14:28
clausenalso, I think the live CD has some kind of safe mode14:28
clausenwith more jibberish displayed (useful for debugging)14:28
UidXWhere can i ask english grammar questions?14:28
Halabundclausen, alright, I'll try that.  Any other advice?  It takes up to 10 minutes to get to the point where it freezes, and another 5 minutes to boot into Windows and come back and ask again ...14:28
MonkeyDustUidX  in #ubuntu-offtopic14:29
HalabundUidX, ##English14:29
UidXThanks Halabund!14:29
clausenHalabund, nothing else comes to mind14:29
OverkillGuyin the end I found my bluetooth works on ubuntu  and not on mint14:30
OverkillGuy(out of the box of course)14:30
sirknightanyone need help?14:30
riteshhii14:30
riteshhow r u..14:30
sirknightHalabund,  remake the cd , put it on a different formamt cd/dvd and use k3b (windows and linux good)14:32
kyubutsudpkg locked. "error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"14:32
ActionParsnipdoes anyone know what service or even OS that redtube/extremetube/youtube etc use? Was thinking of setting up a server with my own video files14:32
escott!aptlock | kyubutsu14:32
ubottukyubutsu: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:32
clausensirknight, why would halabund do that?14:32
riteshhiii i am new to linux can any tell me good site for linux administration14:34
adison@ActionParsnip try here http://designerfied.com/753/10-multimedia-cms-youtube-clones.html14:34
joe_smacki'm on a new 12.04 fresh updated, installed ati driver using jockey-thing and it says activated, but i have no 3d :(14:36
sirknightclausen, halabund, k3b it checks the iso AND th cd/dvd for you   no work arounds just download the program and run ONLY THIS app .. until its done.. oh check the box where it say" verify the data"14:36
joe_smackdo i need to set boot option nomodeset?14:36
escottritesh, debian-administration.org14:36
rabbi1just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04..... after restart my system says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" if i skip this the error is same with /tmp /home etc...... :(14:37
gaelfxjoe_smack: what do you mean you have no 3d?14:37
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joe_smackchecking with system settings/details says vesa under graphics :(14:37
riteshthanks... escott14:37
joe_smackrunning 3d games is slooow :(14:38
gaelfxjoe_smack: what does fglrxinfo say?14:38
joe_smackwhat it's sposed too :p sec14:38
joe_smackOpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 545014:38
gaelfxjoe_smack: sure looks like the driver is working14:39
sirknightclausen,  i have found it to be the simple yet very powerful tool for anyone to use.. newbie windows user can "just work " like they're are used to14:40
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joe_smackindeed, but nothing in dmesg bout dkpms or whatever that command was :p14:40
riteshcan any1 tell me what is X1114:41
riteshplease14:41
joe_smackand very slow 3d, and system settings says vesa14:41
LolostudioHi. I'm  currently trying to make a new installation from live USB of Xubuntu (11.10), so i'm cleaning my partitions...I had 2 swaps and some bugs, so I've deleted everything except my /home and my ntfs windows 7 part. The problem is that now I have two different blocs of "free space", one of 25 go and one of 1,5 go; if I want to extand my home part, I can only take the little part of 1,5go (this space is placed "af14:41
joe_smacki have faster 3d with free drivers14:41
zykotic10ritesh: X11 = Xorg = the underlying GUI environment14:41
xubuntu-guyHello, Everyone... i'm having a problem with xubuntu (on the live cd) everytime i try to delete a file, Thunar says "unable to find or Create trash directory"14:41
joe_smackso i am sure is vesa14:41
Lolostudio(I forgot to say i've just created the new / of 15go and the swap of 2 go)14:42
riteshthans ZYkotic1014:42
riteshwhat does acutally used for14:42
riteshx1114:42
escottritesh, it is used to draw things on the screen. without it you dont have a gui environment. you just have a text console14:43
The_BROSwhy hotkeys are not working in Ubuntu 12.04?14:43
The_BROSGnote14:43
xubuntu-guythis also^14:43
gridbagthis Flash/avatar bug is completely outrageous: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue14:43
riteshescott actually i was working on making jar executable in ubuntu14:44
xubuntu-guyI used 9.04 for the longest, so i decided to uprgade to 12.04 (the next LTS release) now a bit of bugs here and there14:44
joe_smackalso the ati driver (post-release) in jocke is not working :(14:44
Lasherwhy no inxi in 12.04?14:44
escottritesh, and what does that have to do with X11?14:44
kyubutsuflashplugin update SLOW [http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.235.orig.tar.gz14:44
The_BROSHow to make hotkeys work on Gnote?14:44
gridbagIn adobe's final flash release, they flip the blue & red so people look like blue avatar people.  some nvidia hw acceleration bug.14:44
xubuntu-guykyu, use flashaid. quick easy installation https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/14:45
OerHeksgridbag, solved here14:45
escott!pm | ritesh14:45
ubotturitesh: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:45
kyubutsuthat update is reason dpkg locked on me.14:45
Shanthi'm using backtrack 5 r2 and dual boot with win7 , now the problem is i can mount and use a particular partition with root but that particular partition is not able to be mounted in standard user account14:45
riteshsorry14:46
escott!bt | Shanth14:46
riteshto sent PM14:46
escott!backtrack | Shanth14:46
ubottuShanth: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition14:46
gridbagOerHeks, good for you. i'll come over to your place to watch youtubes.14:46
xubuntu-guyShanth fstab entry?14:46
riteshactually i was making jar executable in ubuntu14:46
Shanththanx14:46
riteshmeans on double click it should execute14:46
OerHeksgridbag the work around was to disable hardware-acceleration.14:47
riteshbut i got errir14:47
gaelfxjoe_smack: then use the free drivers?14:47
xubuntu-guyStill looking for a solution to problem: "everytime i try to delete a file, Thunar says "unable to find or Create trash directory"14:47
ActionParsnipritesh: if you make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications it will appear in dash14:47
ActionParsnip!trash14:47
ubottuYour GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device.14:47
ActionParsnipxubuntu-guy: does the folder ~/.local/share/Trash exist?14:48
OerHeksxubuntu-guy, that happens in a live14:48
xubuntu-guyyes, i tried deleting and recreating it several times14:48
gaelfxjoe_smack: in System Settings->Details, it would say unknown if fglrx were'nt working14:48
riteshacually on double click jar file working14:48
xubuntu-guyits just thunar that seems to not recognize it14:48
riteshbut after installing X1114:49
madlatviananyone in bris a grad????14:49
escottxubuntu-guy, it might be owned by the wrong userid. what user owns that folder?14:49
riteshso it has created intrest in me ...14:49
riteshwhat is actually x11 is?14:49
ActionParsnipmadlatvian: can you rephrase the question please14:49
LolostudioHi. I'm  currently trying to make a new installation from live USB of Xubuntu (11.10), so i'm cleaning my partitions...I had 2 swaps and some bugs, so I've deleted everything except my /home and my ntfs windows 7 part. The problem is that now I have two different blocs of "free space", one of 25 go and one of 1,5 go; if I want to extand my home part, I can only take the little part of 1,5go (this space is placed "af14:50
escottritesh, what is your native language? you might have better luck in a channel where you can speak your own language instead of english14:50
kyubutsuyay .. 20kiB/s.. what bottleneck..14:50
ActionParsnipkyubutsu: 20kb/s with what app?14:50
joe_smackit says unknow when i use free drivers, but vesa now :( but when i use free drivers i still don't have enough performance :(14:51
joe_smackfar from it :(14:51
riteshactually.. i am first time chatting in Ubuntu server14:51
kyubutsuActionParsnip: dpkg download flashplugin update  :(14:51
DrHalanhey guys. i'm running a virtual server on OpenVZ with linux 2.6.18 and would like to upgrade to precise. is there anyway to do that? maybe run a virtual server on that serverß :D14:51
Fat-Thingaptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') broadcom-sta-dkms <--- can anyone explain what does it mean?14:51
LiquidDemocracyHow can I upgrade to 12.04 under KDE? In Gnome there is an update manager.. Where is it in KDE?14:51
ActionParsnipkyubutsu: probably adobe's servers being busy14:51
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: run:  sudo do-release-upgrade14:52
escottLiquidDemocracy, from the command line you could do-release-upgrade14:52
LiquidDemocracyWhy doesn't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work any longer?14:53
LiquidDemocracyNo new release found.14:53
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: it does, try it14:53
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: thats not how you get the new release14:53
LiquidDemocracyNo it doesn't.14:53
oCeanLiquidDemocracy: you have to pass the -d option to do-release-upgrade14:53
LiquidDemocracyTried it 5 times now.14:53
kyubutsuwhew.. 5 minutes. download completed14:53
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: it does, run it and you will update but not change release14:53
himanshu_m786hi i want to ask something that is there any way that ... i make a folder and and want see it on a particular workspace and not on all the workspace ...14:54
oCeanLiquidDemocracy: normally LTS->LTS upgrades wait till next .1 release ie 12.04.114:54
oCeanLiquidDemocracy: dist-upgrade was never meant for release upgrades14:54
LiquidDemocracysudo do-release-upgrade -d ?14:54
xubuntu-guyescott, so i changed the permissions on the trash folder, yet the problem persists... http://oi49.tinypic.com/2a7ygwp.jpg14:54
oCeanLiquidDemocracy: yes14:54
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: -d is for (d)evelopment releases, of which there isn't one14:54
LiquidDemocracyI didn: No new release found.14:54
ActionParsnip!upgrade | LiquidDemocracy14:54
ubottuLiquidDemocracy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade14:54
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oCeanActionParsnip: actually from an LTS point of view 12.04 is still developement, several pages describing the -d option as required to upgrade at this point14:56
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: from the man page of apt-get http://pastie.org/386884814:56
ActionParsnipoCean: seems weird, precise is stable14:56
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, that link is for Ubuntu. Never had problems with Ubuntu. Now I am using Kubunt.14:56
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: use the server method, its DE independant14:57
oCeanActionParsnip: I agree, but (for example) http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts14:57
Varsuchianyone know how to change the settings of wlan0 ot static? there is no config options in /etc/network/interfaces14:57
himanshu_m786 hi i want to ask something that is there any way that ... i make a folder and and want see it on a particular workspace and not on all the workspace ...14:57
gridbagOerHacks : Switching to HTML5 also fixes the Avatar-Looking-People bug, but there are some sites like charlierose.com which immediately run an embedded Flash which wedges, so the "[] Enable HW acceleration" box doesn't work.14:57
ActionParsnipVarsuchi: network manager allows you to set static IP14:57
Dualityhi14:57
ArtVandalayhey14:57
Varsuchiaction: any CLI way?14:57
ActionParsnipVarsuchi: you can instead use the interfaces file you described14:57
shreddingDoes anyone now what's it with the ~/.ssh folder? I'm trying to push something to git and becoming a Permission denied (publickey).14:57
ArtVandalaycan anyone from china plz pm me, i need help with a little something14:58
shreddingI'm not really sure whats the problem.14:58
Dualitysomeone is trying to log in to  my ubuntu server with root, but i have root disabled, so nothing to worry about no?14:58
Varsuchiaction: but there isnt any config options for wlan0 in there... where is that information stored?14:58
Varsuchiaction: i tried network manager, however, it wont let me save changes and never prompts for sudo (root)14:58
LiquidDemocracyStill don't get it.14:59
mneptokDuality: you cannot login to the root account in Ubuntu by default. either locally or ssh.14:59
ActionParsnipVarsuchi: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; kdesu kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   set: Prompt=normal  to: Prompt=lts    save the new file, close kate then run: sudo do-release-upgrade14:59
LiquidDemocracyI always used dist-upgrade in the past.14:59
WawaiftyidHello. Who knows a lossless video converter from MP4 to OGG in Ubuntu?14:59
LiquidDemocracyWhat command now do I have to type?14:59
himanshu_m786can anyone help me out ...??14:59
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: I gave the command for you to Varsuchi, see the large text above15:00
gridbagI like the Adobe Flash Player "Do you want to abort the script? Yes/No", where no matter how hard you pound the mouse, neither button does anything.  This experience is like Windows98.15:00
mneptokLiquidDemocracy: 08:54 < oCean> LiquidDemocracy: dist-upgrade was never meant for release upgrades15:00
escottWawaiftyid, impossible15:00
zykotic10Wawaiftyid: lossless - highly unlikely15:00
Wawaiftyidescott, why?15:00
ActionParsnipVarsuchi: if you use network manager icon in the panel you can set the interface to manual and define address and DNS servers there15:00
mneptokLiquidDemocracy: dist-upgrade has *never* moved between versions. ever.15:00
Dualitymneptok, cool :) thanks, i've enabled root before though, and then tried to disable, (can't log in as root so i assume it's ok?)15:00
LiquidDemocracymneptok, yes, but then what was?15:00
aeurielesnHi guys I haven't been able to use public key authentication following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys - it keeps asking me repeatedly for my passphrase. Even using 'ssh -i' did't work. Anyone willing to help me figure out what's wrong?15:00
Wawaiftyidok, minimun-loss then15:00
gridbagHow hard is it for a program to exit(1), anyway?15:00
LolostudioHum, i cant manage to fix it...I still have 25 go of free spaces I can't use to enlarge my /home partition, and a 1,5 go bloc of free space I can use to do so...but if I do so, i will still have a 25go bloc of wasted, non-used space...idea?15:00
escottWawaiftyid, you can't convert between two different lossy codecs and expect it to be lossless unless there is some kind of isomorphism between the representations, which there won't be for mp4 and ogg15:01
LiquidDemocracysudo do-release-upgrade does not find a new release.15:01
zykotic10Wawaiftyid: Theora video isn't near the quality of MP415:01
saeLiquidDemocracy: I think you do get  kernel updates with it though15:01
mneptokDuality: you might consider installing denyhosts15:01
Varsuchiaction: if I just add my wlan0 optjons to interface will it just override any network manager settings?15:01
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: did you edit the file first?15:01
LiquidDemocracysae, I want 12.0415:01
Varsuchi/etc/network/interface15:01
Varsuchii mean15:01
WawaiftyidAll I want to do is to convert some videos from MP4 to OGG. I don't want to loss too much quality. Can that be possible?15:01
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, no15:01
jribLiquidDemocracy: what release are you on?15:01
ActionParsnipVarsuchi: if you define the network in the interfaces file then the interface will not be managable by network manager15:02
escottWawaiftyid, just use the maximum quality setting available to you in ogg12315:02
LiquidDemocracyjrib, 11.1015:02
oCeanjrib: good question15:02
Varsuchiaction: i see. thats why there is no config options in there then.15:02
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: i did say to edit the file, it was quite clear. I even gave the command to open it as writable15:02
zykotic10Wawaiftyid: why do you want OGV?15:02
mneptokLiquidDemocracy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade15:02
zykotic10Wawaiftyid: if this video or audio?15:02
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: kdesu kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades15:02
Varsuchiaction: what icon are you referring to, the one in settings or one thats installed after the cfommand you sent?15:03
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: clear as day....15:03
Dualitymneptok, looks usefull thanks :)15:03
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, sorry I missed that line before15:03
Wawaiftyidzykotic10, video. I have choose .flac for audio. I want to move to free software.15:03
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: its in amongst the others15:03
LiquidDemocracykdesu kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades command not found15:03
Wawaiftyidescott, I will search information about ogg12315:03
LiquidDemocracyWhat is kdesu ?15:04
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: just run your text editor in the usual way to edit the file as root15:04
zykotic10Wawaiftyid: have you tried oggconvert?15:04
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: kdesudo kate     /    kdesudo kwrite15:04
madlatvianwho fight against communism and capitalism15:04
ThinkT510LiquidDemocracy: kde equivilent of gksudo15:04
ActionParsnipmadlatvian: wrong channel dude15:04
saemadlatvian: priika15:04
Wawaiftyidzykotic10, yes, but it does a very bad sound convertion for deep sound.15:05
LiquidDemocracyNever used gksudo15:05
LiquidDemocracyWhat is the difference between gksudo and sudo?15:05
ThinkT510!gksudo | LiquidDemocracy15:06
ubottuLiquidDemocracy: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)15:06
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: sudo is ONLY for CLI based commands like apt-get, cp, mv etc15:06
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: gksudo and kdesudo are for GUI apps (but can be used for CLI too) and setup the environment correctly15:06
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: running GUI apps with sudo will break your OS by damaging ownerships of files15:06
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, thx15:06
zykotic10ActionParsnip: technically i'd say s/OS/user account/ to make your above statement true15:07
LolostudioHum, i cant manage to fix it...I still have 25 go of free spaces I can't use to enlarge my /home partition, and a 1,5 go bloc of free space I can use to do so...but if I do so, i will still have a 25go bloc of wasted, non-used space...idea?15:07
ActionParsnipzykotic10: true, but observed functionality will be impaired ;)15:08
zykotic10ActionParsnip: end result would be the same ;)15:08
ActionParsnipzykotic10: but you are right15:08
* mneptok welcomes .mm to the Internet.15:09
ActionParsniphttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+question/184814    another example, the bottom most few replies are most interesting15:10
escottLolostudio, move/resize the partitions as necessary to get what you want?15:10
rebournhello15:10
madlatviangello15:10
root___running ubuntu on android15:11
rebournrebourn@laftof:~$ sudo chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash15:11
rebournchroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error15:11
rebournwhat am I doing wrong?15:11
alankilarebourn: you probably forgot to mount your disk image in /mnt/gentoo or something.15:11
zykotic10rebourn: are you trying to chroot do a different architecture?  32 vs 64 bit type thing?15:11
escottrebourn, 64bit vs 32bit version incompatibility15:11
mneptokalankila: Gentoo?15:11
rebournarent they both 32b?15:12
alankilaah excuse me. The error is indeed "Exec format error"15:12
Lolostudioescott: that's the point; i can't! I can take the little bloc of 1,5 go to enlarge my /home, but i can't use at all the 25go bloc of free space remaining!15:12
alankilasorry about that. Somehow I thought it said "no such file or directory". I guess I've seen that about 1000 times too many. :-/15:13
rebournhow do I solve this?15:13
escottLolostudio, why dont you paste the output of /proc/partitions so that we can know what you are seeing15:13
alankilarebourn: uname -a, is the kernel you currently run 32-bit? is the /mnt/gentoo/bin/bash 64-bit?15:13
rebourni think they are  both 32b15:13
mneptokalankila: i was wondering why you used /mnt /gentoo as a mount point suggestion for Android and Ubuntu.15:13
alankilamneptok: and why would you wonder about that? I am just echoing back what rebourn said15:14
escottLolostudio, or sudo parted -l /dev/sda15:14
mneptokalankila: sorry, my mistake.15:14
rebournLinux laftof 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux15:15
rebournim guessing 32 on the ubuntu15:15
alankilarebourn: okay, that would be a 32-bit kernel... so yeah, probably your mount point has 64-bit binaries and they won't work.15:15
escottrebourn, that is a 32bit system15:15
Lolostudioescott: Modèle: ATA ST3250310AS (scsi) - Disque /dev/sda : 250GB - Taille des secteurs (logiques/physiques): 512B/512B15:15
LolostudioTable de partitions : msdos15:15
LolostudioNuméro  Début   Fin    Taille  Type     Système de fichiers  Fanions15:15
Lolostudio 1      32,3kB  143GB  143GB   primary  ntfs                 démarrage15:15
Lolostudio 3      184GB   249GB  65,0GB  primary  ext415:15
LolostudioModèle: Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 (scsi)15:15
FloodBot1Lolostudio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:15
LolostudioDisque /dev/sdb : 4063MB15:15
mneptokrebourn: no guess, it's i386 with a PAE kernel.15:16
escott!paste | Lolostudio15:16
ubottuLolostudio: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:16
Lolostudiooh, sorry15:16
rebournthe gentoo im after should also be 32bit15:16
alankilarebourn: what is the opinion of the "file" command about /mnt/gentoo/bin/bash15:16
Lolostudioescott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/971579/15:17
rebournELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped15:17
rebourn6415:17
escottrebourn, not going to work. boot a 64bit livecd if you want to bootstrap 64bit gentoo15:17
rebournim having troubles with liveCDs15:18
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rebournthe crash my display at the start of the installation15:18
escottLolostudio, so you should have about 40 gigs space between 143GB and 184GB for a primary partition, and maybe a gig or less between 249GB and the end of the disk15:18
rebournsome horrible textures and colors15:18
escott!nomodeset | rebourn15:18
ubotturebourn: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:18
rebourngot it15:19
rebournwill give it another shot15:20
rebourndoes gentoo have a 32 bit installation?15:20
ActionParsniprebourn: ask in #gentoo15:20
rebournright :)15:20
rebournthanks15:20
matthewLubuntu is awesome!15:21
rebournim just starting out with linux15:21
rebourn3 days 3 headaches, but loving it so far15:21
Lolostudioescott: but i can't do it, i can't change what's remaining...the 1 is my windows, which is 143gb, the number 3 is my /home, so I have 40 gb remlaining as you pointed out, but I can only use these 40 go to make the swap and the /, i can't take them as /home.15:21
najamls -l15:22
ThinkT510Lolostudio: are you booted into the system or a livecd?15:22
LolostudioThinkT510: i'm on a live xubuntu cd15:22
escottLolostudio, so move or resize the partition. you keep saying you cant, but the problem is evidently you dont know how. so use gparted which is on the livecd and select the partition then from the menu there should be an option to move or resize15:22
escottLolostudio, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm15:23
ThinkT510Lolostudio: what are you trying to do exactly? just resize partitions?15:23
aaasanyone have any experience with raid0 on ubuntu using one of the raid systems that come on most motherboards these days, how easy is it to implment, did you notice speed increase (for a file server for 4gb)15:23
tbrown2012LOLostudio: How do you like xubuntu I had used it for a little bet. But it was eating a lot of memory on my computer so I change to lubuntu:) I love it:)15:23
Lolostudioescott: I know how to do this...but when I do it, it says that "Maximum partition size" is my actual size + 1,3 gb maximum15:23
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escottLolostudio, you have to move it first15:24
alankilaaaas: a lot of us do not use motherboard-integrated raids at all. It's usually just a software driver trick with a little bit of bios support to it15:24
escottLolostudio, resizing is ONLY to grow at the end. you cannot grow the front of a partition. you need to move it to where you want it to start and then grow it15:24
tbrown2012phillip: Please stay on topic15:24
enzotibphillip, have you some spare semi-colon for me too?15:25
escottaaas, use mdadm don't use fakeraid15:25
phillipSorry15:25
Lolostudioescott: oh...so if i want to resize my /home i need to put it before the big block of 25go free space, right?15:25
ActionParsnipescott: sounds like a charity - faker aid ;)15:25
aaasescott alankila is it worth it?15:25
alankilaaaas: an actual design for raid is a separate card you plug the drives into with on-board memory, and specialized driver that works with that particular type of raid.15:25
alankilaaaas: no, it's probably not worth it15:25
escottaaas, fake-raid is not worth it. mdadm is15:26
tbrown2012phillip: It all Cool:) What kind of linux distro are you running15:26
ThinkT510Lolostudio: perhaps a screenshot of gparted will clear things up15:26
aaasthis would be for a fileserver with heavy load15:26
escottLolostudio, you need to move it forward to make it so that you can grow from the end until it is as big as you need15:26
alankilaaaas: raid is useful, but just use the mdadm thing against it. The mobo solutions do not have real hardware support and therefore the regular mdadm should be better15:27
LolostudioThinkT510: okay15:27
escottLolostudio, if you want a 50GB home it needs to start at 200GB so that 200-250 can all be /home15:27
ingenieroarielHello channel, is it possible to copy packages from the multiverse into a PPA in Launchpad?15:27
ingenieroarielhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jai-imageio-core/1.2-1ubuntu115:27
ingenieroarielor alternatively to make a PPA depend on multiverse15:27
aaasalankila escott how much of a pain would it be if a drive fails... do you need same type, same speed?  i keep two backups already of data of course15:28
Othi`hi, i have a htpc connected to my tv, worked for like a year, now i get 'no signal' after the ubuntu splash screen - this is my xorg log, it says no screens found... http://paste.ubuntu.com/969794/15:28
Othi`although just now it says [    27.105] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.15:28
alankilaaaas: well as a rule a new drive to be added to an existing raid has to be at least as large as the one it is replacing.15:28
alankilaif there is excess space, you might choose to just waste it15:28
escottaaas, with fake-raid it would have to match. mdadm is more flexible in that regard, but you would need to have a matching size for the mdadm device, but mdadm can be put above or below the partition table giving you lots of flexibility15:29
aaaswhen we say 'the same' are we talking +/- a gig or so?   i dont want to buy a different brand and realize that it's too small by 400meg or something15:29
solarbabyI plan on installing Ubuntu 12.04 to my 2009 Mac Mini and I was wondering if I still have to flash firmware and deal with efi boot loaders and all that?15:30
alankilaaaas: well if you really talk about raid0, if a drive fails we generally think all data on the array was lost and it's time to rebuild15:30
escottaaas, that would be a problem with fake-raid.15:30
alankilaaaas: so you can opt to reduce disk partition sizes slightly when you make your new raid0 to match the slightly smaller capacity of either drive15:31
aaasalankila if a dirve fails i just replice the drive, use the remaining working drive and copy everything back, thats what 'rebuild' means?15:31
mantasSwap:  2025468k total,        0k used,  2025468k free,  1062428k cached15:32
alankilaaaas: well in that case you probably think about raid1 or some other level with redundancy15:32
alankilaI thought you said raid0 earlier15:32
escottaaas, *YOU* said you were going to use raid0, but you are describing raid115:32
aaasalankila i did, no i have backups15:32
aaasno no i have the backups15:32
Lolostudioescott: oh, i tried something else in gparted; i can now resize it from backward anf from forward, i think it's what i wanted...thanks :)15:32
aaasi want raid015:32
aaasbut if a drive fails i grab the copy from the backup15:32
aaasnot the raid15:32
aaasmy question is that if one drive fails the other drive is still available to use?15:33
Lolostudioescott: (but i hadn't to move it, seems i can resize in any sense directly O_o)15:33
ThinkT510Lolostudio: wouldn't happen to be neweruser would you?15:33
aaasboth drives dont die because one does15:33
aaas?15:33
alankilaaaas: disk failures are usually independent15:33
aaasalankila ok just making sure15:33
alankilaof course you might have a power spike in PSU that fries everything15:33
escottalankila, they are actually strongly correlated by environmental factors15:33
alankilaescott: true enough, but at least I have not had multiple drives fail the same day yet15:34
alankilasame week, yes. :-/15:34
aaashow often do they fail15:34
zykotic10aaas: if you use RAID0 and one drive dies, you loose everything - RAID0 is not fault tolerant in any way15:34
aaasfor you15:34
mneptokaaas: in RAID 0, there is no redundancy. if one drive physically fails, the entire array goes down.15:34
escottaaas, if you have raid0 and a drive fails, you might as well consider the entire thing to have failed, replace the bad hardware and make a NEW raid structure. thats what we mean by replace. new structure on 1/2 the same hardware15:34
madlatvianhi15:34
LolostudioThinkT510: hum, i've been on ubuntu for about 4 or 5 monthes and i can manage to get what i want inside, but i never understand that silly partioning step... :'(15:34
alankilaaaas: well, the thing with RAID is that you tend to choose identical disks from identical time to use in identical conditions under identical load15:34
aaasbut ill have a backup15:34
STOUNHi , can someone help me ? Im using ubuntu 12.04 and just did some wrong setting on my admin account with compiz ... now when I log into my account I see just black background and launcher dont start ... I can do nothing there , is there some possible way how to restore it ?15:34
aaasso it wont matter15:34
aaassure15:34
aaasi lose everything but i have a backup15:34
ThinkT510Lolostudio: partitioning is easy when you know how15:35
alankilaaaas: so all the drives in a RAID array have a higher than usual chance to fail close to each other because so many factors happen to become controlled15:35
mneptokaaas: LVM offers the exact same functionality as RAID 0, is built-in to the kernel, and is far easier to set up.15:35
LolostudioThinkT510: maybe, but it doesn't look intuitive and confident at all x')15:36
aaasi cant remember the last time a drive failed on me, im wondering how much faster the drives would fail, my drives have all lasted until the net upgrade15:36
aaasmneptok thanks ill look into it15:36
alankilaaaas: statistically there is about 6 % chance per year for a drive to fail15:36
ThinkT510Lolostudio: seems intuitive to me, just resize by dragging15:36
alankila20 % chance if that drive displays any SMART errors15:36
ActionParsnipaaas: really, we have a few thousand server and we replace about 3 a month, ish15:36
toschohi, I want to change some keyboard behaviours, but I'm on lubuntu, so I can't rely on the gnome-settings for keyboard.15:37
toscho1. ctrl-alt-bksp for terminate15:37
mneptokaaas: after 3 decades playing with computers, i have learned to never ever say things like, "i have never had _____ fail on me." because now it will.15:37
escottaaas, LVM does JBOD very well. i dont think it does stripping so if you want the performance increase from stripping over JBOD then you need mdadm15:37
toscho2. keycodes 166 and 167 for home and end15:37
toscho3. caps-lock should be compose-key15:37
alankilaaaas: that works out to around 10 years of life before 50 % of drive population has failed15:37
toscho4. power-button should invoke logout dialog15:37
alankilaaaas: but there's degree of uncertainty about these figures. I got them from the google harddisk survey15:38
ThinkT510!enter | toscho15:38
ubottutoscho: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:38
Lolostudiooh, btw, just got a message after resizing, "Failure to boot is most likely to occur if you move the GNU/Linux partition containing /boot, or if you move the Windows system partition C:." is it normal since my boot flag isn't on the sd3 that i've resized, but on the sda1 i haven't touched at all?15:38
aaasyeah im just hammering this poor two disk (1tb,2tb) server from the network constantly, i would think a raid0 or something would be abetter setup logistically15:39
escottLolostudio, the boot flag doesnt matter to linux15:39
ActionParsnipLolostudio: the boot flag doesn't mean anything to grub15:39
alankilaaaas: drives do not suffer from head movement very much, so usage does not matter, at least if drive temperatures do not rise significantly because of it15:39
alankilaideal drive temperature is somewhere between 40 to 50 C iirc, again statistically15:39
ActionParsnipaaas: you using SQL?15:40
omertahy15:40
Lolostudioescott:  oh...so what do i have to do if i want to resize it? was it just a bot message, or will i really break something if i continue? :s15:40
rabbi1upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, but after restart, doesn't load ubuntu ... says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" How to get my ubuntu back ?15:40
aaasActionParsnip no, just access for movies, backup coppying, grabbing files across the network15:40
ActionParsnipaaas: thats not hammering it much15:40
omertawhat is the easy way to learn ubuntu??15:40
ActionParsnipomerta: use the OS15:41
solarbabyis anybody else running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Mac?15:41
escottLolostudio, you just moved a /home partition. so it doesn't have a /boot. its just a reminder to those who move / or /boot and forget to reinstall their bootloader15:41
ActionParsnipomerta: same way you learned WIndows15:41
ThinkT510omerta: use it, vms are great to practice on15:41
aaasActionParsnip yeah probably only when the backups take over15:41
ActionParsnipaaas: then its only reading the disk, writes are what really work drives15:41
omertaok ..but are many commands15:41
omerta:D15:42
STOUNHello , can you help me ? I changed profile on my ubuntu 12.04 from unity to something another using compiz . Now I see just black background and system is unusable . Now Im logged to guest account . Is there some possible way how to restore my admin acc ? Thanks for answers15:42
ActionParsnipaaas: try a large SQL database with a query to search and replace commands, takes a few days to run with near 100% disk utilisation15:42
aaasActionParsnip how much real-world increase in speed would occur on a raid0, say in copying a 16 gig file15:42
Lolostudioescott: oh, great. I'm applying changes and i'll try to install, thansk a lot escott and ThinkT510 :)15:42
alankilaaaas: you can ideally read and write sequentially doubly as fast15:43
saerabbi1:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174783515:43
alankilaaaas: but that assumes disks were the only limiting factor to performance. Even if you have gigalan, you can only read/write 100 MB/s over that15:43
alankilaor well, 120 MB/s as it's 8 bits per byte15:43
ActionParsnipaaas: should be a lot faster, depends how many drives you RAID15:43
alankilaaaas: to clarify, that was for going from 1 drive to 2 drives15:44
omertaanyone from romania??15:44
aaasalankila eys gigalan, pcie the dives are probably the limit15:44
solarbabyThe Apple support desk refuses to help me replace osx with Ubuntu 12.0415:44
ActionParsnipsolarbaby: are you surprised?15:44
solarbabyhahaha :)15:44
escottaaas, on the other hand if you have multiple readers and their reads are statistically spread out over the disks jbod might outperform raid1 because jbod might avoid seeks (each drive just read sequential blocks independently)15:44
alankilaaaas: a single harddisk can often read/write around 80 MB/s today. I'm afraid your network will limit you before your raid will.15:44
STOUNcan you help me ? I changed profile on my ubuntu 12.04 from unity to something another using compiz . Now I see just black background and system is unusable . Now Im logged to guest account . Is there some possible way how to restore my admin acc ? Thanks for answers15:44
omertaquit15:44
aaasalankila no i said the disks (pre-raid) are limited15:45
aaaslimiting815:45
alankilaaaas: oh, my mistake15:45
ActionParsnipSTOUN: log off and log in to Unity2D and you can fix things15:45
solarbabyActionParsnip: know any mac people in here?15:46
xubuntu-guystill Dealing with this bug, guys http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg3230460.html15:46
tbrown2012Am installing wineHQ and I dont know if it frozen or done downloading But I dont see it in the Application15:46
ActionParsnipsolarbaby: a few instal ubuntu on mac15:46
solarbabyActionParsnip: I was hoping there was a channel just for people like me, but I can't find one15:47
ThinkT510tbrown2012: are you using the ubuntu repo?15:47
aaaswell thank you all for your help alankila ActionParsnip  mneptok escott  zykotic10 ...im still between raid0,lvm,or dont-bother but i defintely am more informed and have a lot to think about15:47
alankilaaaas: it's often perfeclty acceptable to use multiple disks over multiple mountpoints, if you can segregate your disk needs according to different kinds of files or purposes15:48
tbrown2012ThinkT510: Am using lubuntu:) I just installed it in the software center:)15:48
alankilaaaas: so that way if a drive fails it takes down only its own filesystem15:48
ThinkT510tbrown2012: i prefer synaptic to the software centre15:48
alankilaaaas: before long we have one more option: btrfs. It will do raid at the filesystem level, so you can add more drives after the fact and use per-directory level raid0, raid1, raid5, or whatever you want15:49
ThinkT510tbrown2012: more verbose output15:49
STOUNActionParsnip, thanks Im gonna try it15:49
tbrown2012ThinkT510: What kind of program is that:) What about the Terminal is that a good way to install application15:49
solarbabyAny Mac Ubuntu users in here willing to chat with me??15:49
ThinkT510tbrown2012: if you are familiar with apt-get then yes, the terminal is great15:50
ZigSomeone know how to add a user to the sudoers file?15:50
alankilaZig: add user to the sudoers group15:50
alankilaZig: that should allow sudo access15:50
rabbi1sae: thanks, i did dpkg --configure -a... now it asks me to wether to keep currently installed version or install the maintainer's version. what to do ?15:50
alankilaah the group is called sudo15:51
saerabbi1:  no warranties, but I would go with maintainers version15:51
rabbi1sae: but default is "keep the current one" i just hit that  :(15:52
tbrown2012I need to restart and uninstall some files then15:52
nannesWifi Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b/g/n   on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS......... What to do to make it work?15:52
solarbabyalright i guess there is no help for me today15:52
solarbaby:(15:52
saerabbi1: ok, see how it goes15:52
kio_httpHi, I am looking for an (preferably GUI in QT4) application to view detailed S.M.A.R.T information of the hard drive. A bit like hdd-life for notebooks on Windows. I need total spin time etc not just temperature15:52
Zigalankila: thanks15:52
rabbi1sae: oooooooooops, very hot here,. hope my system will be up and running....15:53
fidel_kio_http: disk utility should offer smart-values15:53
kio_httpfidel_: I said QT4 ... also note I use Kubuntu 12.04 LTS15:53
saerabbi1: are you on a laptop?15:53
fidel_kio_http: "preferable" ;)15:54
rabbi1sae: yeah, chating on laptop, but it's my desktop where i tried to upgrade ... whya ?15:54
rabbi1sae: processing was halterd because there were too many errors :(\15:54
saerabbi1: which one is getting hot?15:54
kio_httpfidel_: I am not going to install gnome stuff as I do not want so many gnome dependencies ... according to http://blog.volker-lanz.de/2010/05/29/new-in-kde-partition-manager-1-1-ii-smart-status-reports   it works but the version in precise is 1.0.3 which does not have smart15:55
saerabbi1: any options provided?15:55
cookiemon5terfidel_: is disk utility just a frontend to something else ?15:55
rabbi1now on reboot, X11 initialization failed.... :(15:55
cookiemon5terif so is there a qt frontend to that15:56
aaasis there any program that does general checks and emails you if there are problems with yoru system, i've tried munin and nagios, but i'm curious if there are other options, maybe something that takes serious logfile errors and mails y ou, or runs system check and mails you if there are problems? just curious about the system monitoring solutions people are using15:56
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saerabbi1: do you see the grub menu? there is usually a fail safe entry15:56
fidel_cookiemon5ter: yep15:56
sigma_halo15:57
fidel_cookiemon5ter: well - no - but the executable is called different iirc15:57
sigma_halo15:57
CMzhello, how do I install the "whois" feature in Ubuntu using the sudo command so I can 'whois' domain names? Thank you15:57
sigma_jest ktoś z polski ;)?15:57
fidel_cookiemon5ter: in cli 'palimpsest'15:57
fidel_!pl > sigma_15:57
ThinkT510!pl | sigma_15:57
ubottusigma_, please see my private message15:57
ubottusigma_: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.15:57
escott!info whois | CMz15:57
ubottuCMz: whois (source: whois): intelligent WHOIS client. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.15ubuntu2 (precise), package size 27 kB, installed size 140 kB15:57
cookiemon5terfidel_: never heard of it15:58
CMzthanks15:58
escottaaas, smartctl for drives there are other tools for server management i think nagios is one?15:58
CMzwhen I type whois, I'm told about 4 packages... whois, jwhois, cwhois and gwhois.. which one would I install?15:58
sigma_sorry how i can switch for my language ?15:59
CMzrwhois is the first one, not just whois15:59
aaasescott anything that is a bit more broad than just 'smart disks'15:59
escottaaas, nagios15:59
ThinkT510sigma_: /join #ubuntu-pl15:59
jostenI just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 LTS.  How do I get the dash to remain visible on the desktop, but hide when an application is started?16:00
nannesWifi Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b/g/n   on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS......... What Can I do to make it work?16:00
aaasescott yeah im running nagios, but i think i might uninstall and go with munin, nagios is just a pain to setup16:00
ThinkT510!bcm | nannes16:00
ubottunannes: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:00
rabbi1guys i am moving out of ubuntu ;(16:01
nannesThinkT510: there's not 4313 in that list :(16:01
cogHow do I get this junk off my screen?  I tried to load egoboo in 12.04 & it slowed down tremendously, then I got a terminal up and killed the unresponsive game and now about 25% of my screen looks terrible.16:02
cogI can barely see the scroll for example16:02
cogWould you like a screenshot?16:02
cookiemon5tercog: was the resolution changed ?16:02
cogyes16:03
saerabbi1: sorry to hear that. How about starting from a live DVD and safe your data to an external drive. After that install Ubuntu from scratch16:03
cookiemon5tercog: try relogging16:03
cogNo dice.16:04
cookiemon5terkio_http: have you checked with #kde to see if there are any kde applications16:04
rabbi1sae: can;t help.... nothing is cakewalk in here ... I always see lot of people talking about lot of problems every day... What's the point living with so much trouble... ? i wasted my whole day just to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.....16:04
rabbi1sae: out of record, is fedora a good choice ?16:05
jostencog: try going to system settings, displays.  check the resolution.  I have mine set on 1280x800.16:05
Belial`rabbi1, fedora is good, but i always come back to ubuntu.16:05
kio_httpcookiemon5ter: Not yet ... KDE is awesome but partition tools have really been neglected since migration to KDE4. Maybe CLI would be the only solution.16:05
rabbi1Belial`: LinuxMint ?16:05
saerabbi1:  How long have you been with 10.04?16:06
rabbi12 years, started with 8.04 ....16:06
rabbi1sae:16:06
cookiemon5terkio_http: if you don't want to use a gnome utility the gnome disk utility uses udisk16:06
Fat-Thinghow can i activate my broadcom STA wireless driver!? i always got this error check /var/log/jockey16:06
nannesThinkT510: there's not 4313 in that list16:06
ThinkT510nannes: sorry, i use intel, works out of the box for me16:06
rabbi1I have almost spent some 80 days of my total time, solving problems.....16:07
aaasanyone try ssd caching on ubuntu like bcache or flashcashe?  was it worth it?16:07
saerabbi1: during those 2 years, how did it feel?16:07
escottaaas, if you only stream the data once it wont help16:07
rabbi1I know the Live CD works good enough, but that's good for people who are installing ubuntu for first time. but the upgrade has problems and bugs....16:08
aaasescott what do you mean 'stream'16:08
saerabbi1: what kind of problems? HW? SW?16:08
escottaaas, yours was a media streaming server right?16:08
rabbi1I can even see lot of people raising lot of bugs, sad.... :(16:08
ThinkT510rabbi1: i've always fresh installed16:08
aaasescott oh no, its lots of things but it does stream16:08
mneptok!offtopic16:08
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:08
escottaaas, caching only helps if file reads/writes are correlated across time. if you read once and then not again for a few hours it wont do much for you16:09
rabbi1sae: infact both, I use AMD with nvidia, initially i had to sit a complete day to may my nvidia graphics card work ....16:09
mneptokrabbi1: specific support questions and answers on this channel, please16:09
aaasescott i see, which is why caching the os drive is most helpful16:09
rabbi1ThinkT510: correct, that's better, should checkoff upgrade button from the update-manager, sucks man16:09
virilquestion: grub error 15 on an 9.x ubuntu. fired up 11.04 livecd, fdisk -l shows 2 disks with linux raid autodetect. how to recover boot please?16:10
escottaaas, on a server most of the OS could fit in ram, but yes caching the os drive would be "better" bcache benchmarks are great for things like sql. lots of reads and writes to the same area of the disk16:10
ThinkT510viril: the 9.x series is no longer supported16:10
aaasescott ah i see, have you used it before?16:11
virilThinkT510: i understand but any idea on how to go about this? this is an email server and i need to get solution asap. thank you.16:11
escottaaas, you might have a multi-terrabyte database but only the recent data is updated, or maybe data arrives from market sector X and all of the records related to that sector see lots of updates16:11
saemneptok: where can I talk to rabbi1 so it doesn't interfere with the channel content?16:11
mneptok!offtopic | sae16:11
ubottusae: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:11
virilThinkT510: system is running on ibm x22616:12
jll_hi all, i have some problems with my wifi connection and would really appreciate some help16:12
saemneptok: thank you16:12
rabbi1mneptok: I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, and got this error on reboot ...... "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" and later i followed this "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747835" and after a while now it says "Processing was halted because there were too many errors......  What next ? any suggestion ?16:12
ThinkT510viril: i can't help you unless you use a supported version of ubuntu16:12
mneptokrabbi1: did you try the solution proposed by rcampi on that thread?16:13
rabbi1mneptok: yeap, after that i get  ""Processing was halted because there were too many errors"16:14
chilibluedoes anyone know of something that can view .dbx (outlook mail box files) in linux? Just trying to avoid rebooting16:15
chiliblueoutlook express files16:15
mneptokrabbi1: when running dpkg or when booting?16:16
ThinkT510chiliblue: not sure if thunderbird or evolution support those, i doubt they do16:16
rabbi1mneptok: while running dpkg ....16:16
chiliblueThinkT510, pretty sure Evolution doesn't16:16
ResQuehow can i find out where a shortcut on the unity menu bar points to. the files location16:17
mneptokrabbi1: i'd start by booting a live CD or other live media and running fsck against any partitions you have.16:17
saeResQue: you mean in the launcher?16:17
rabbi1mneptok: i got 10.04 CD, will that do ?16:18
ResQuesae: yes16:18
mneptokrabbi1: yes.16:18
rabbi1mneptok: will give it a shot... .thanks...  fsck what?16:18
saeResQue: what a coincidence, I just happened to type that command: cd /usr/share/app-install/desktop/16:19
mneptokrabbi1: fsck any and all partitions you use in Ubuntu. especially /16:19
Onixshow to disable X on 12.0416:19
ThinkT510!text | Onixs16:19
ubottuOnixs: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode16:19
ThinkT510Onixs: if just while running: sudo service lightdm stop16:20
ResQuesae: haha that is luckly, is this location used by unity to store all the icons for applications shortcuts, even the ones not on the unity toolbar at the moment,16:21
Fat-Thingcommand for knowing bash version?16:21
ActionParsnipFat-Thing: dpkg -l | grep bash16:22
Fat-Thing!bash16:22
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal16:22
saeResQue: it looks like that16:22
zsolthi there!i tryed latest nvidia driver,but my desktop freezes,how may I install an older release?it is a nvidia 9400m g16:22
ResQuesae: thanks16:22
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Dualityi am trying to setup ssh keys, and i am confused what is my primary machine ? the thing i am on at the moment or my server ?16:26
Dualityhttp://paulkeck.com/ssh/16:26
rabbi1mneptok: no luck, that disk is damaged......16:26
Fat-Thinghow to unpack a .deb file?16:26
ActionParsnipFat-Thing: ar x filename.deb16:27
adisons16:27
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ActionParsnip!rootirc | matthijs16:27
ubottumatthijs: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.16:27
ActionParsnipoops16:27
ActionParsnipmatthewL: ^16:27
matthewLthanks, ubottu16:28
escottDuality, just run ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id user@remotehost from the machine you will use to log into remotehost16:28
Dualityescott, thanks :)16:28
Dualityescott, i run those with sudo ?16:29
zsolthelp me please!I'm stuck.how is it possible to install older nvidia driver?16:29
matthewLActionParsnip: actually, my shell requires that I login as root, as I am running irssi from an Android command line.16:29
four04I don't think you sudo for keygens16:29
rabbi1mneptok: I am getting this after i reboot " **(Plumouthd:115): Warning **: command line .................. "16:29
DualityZsoL, you could go to the download site pick a older source and install via console/terminal16:30
kala__selam türk var mı16:30
four04If you cannot get a graphical web browser you could sudo apt-get install links and use that16:30
zsoltgot configure error16:30
LjL!tr | kala__16:30
ubottukala__: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.16:30
kala__ubottu: thanks16:30
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:30
matthewLfour04: or w3m, too.16:30
ActionParsnipmatthewL: how do you mean android command line? Using the terminal emulator in android and running it there?16:31
four04yes16:31
osseI can't find the "Search for files" dialog. In 11.10 I could find it by searching for "search" in the dash but it seems to be gone :O16:31
zsolttryed to add a maverick line to sources.list,i use precise,than force version in synaptic,got errors :(16:31
muffinswhen using find in linux anyone know what something like /home/this/..     /that means?16:31
four04@zsolt if you're using _maverick_ in _precise_ I cannot help you...16:32
xanguaosse: you mean the nautilus search function ¿16:32
matthewLActionParsnip: I'm running ubuntu from an image file (Ubuntu for Android), but I'm ssh-ing into the Android device as root, then I run the mounting/running image file script.16:32
ActionParsnipmuffins: / is the lowest point of the file system16:32
irenicus09hi guys anyone can recommend a good system log analyser?16:32
zsoltok,if it is a bad idea,what do you recomend?16:32
matthewLActionParsnip: in effedct, yes, i run ubuntu from the Android terminal.16:32
ActionParsnipmatthewL: not tried andchat?16:33
xanguazsolt: mixing repositories is always bad idea16:33
zsolttrue16:33
saematthewL: would you mind sharing where one can get an image file for Android?16:33
matthewLsae: google Linux on Android.16:34
matthewLsae: brb.16:34
Dualityescott, i thank you verry much! that was easy! :)16:34
zokier`I got backtrace for xorg (intel driver) segfault, what should i do with it16:35
matthewLsae: http://linuxonandroid.blogspot.com/16:35
zsoltwell what do you recomend?tryed propietary driver,but can't find my kernel source tree,since I use older kernel in precise,because the new kernel doesn't support my notebook16:35
muffinsActionParsnip, thanks!16:35
saematthewL: thanks a lot!16:35
matthewLActionParsnip: actually, yes, I've tried AndChat, and it works great!16:36
ossexangua, no I don't. Afaik you can only simply search for files whose filename contain what you search for. There was a seperate dialog where I could choose to match filename against a regex, that it does not contain foo, permissions and so on.16:36
matthewLActionParsnip: I wanted to run linux CLI programs from my Android phone with a bluetooth keyboard116:36
ossexangua, in the old days it was under "Places -> Search for files" and in 11.10 it was available by that name from the dasg16:36
matthewLsae: you are welcome!16:36
zsoltthe latest nvidia driver is buggy,it freezes my desktop16:37
hanninghey16:37
jshrivergreetings how do you create a boot USB using Ubuntu?  It use to be under System but there is no menu in 11.04 anymore16:37
jshriverbasically want a live Ubuntu 1116:38
jshriveruse to do it easily in 1016:38
zsolttry unetbootin16:38
EvilResistancejshriver:  look up 'USB Startup Disk Creator'16:38
jshriverWhat is the command for it?16:38
four04sudo apt-get install unetbootin16:38
four04then unetbootin16:38
EvilResistancejshriver:  standby, i have to open synaptic for the default disk creator16:38
ActionParsnipjshriver: install unetbootin then run that from dash16:38
jshriverok ty16:38
ossexangua, ahh, after pressing Enter in the regular search thingy a green Plus appears and I can specify my criteria. My bad :)16:38
hanningi am looking for information on hardware acceleration for AMD's Fusion platform, or at least a place to ask that question again ;)16:38
mikeinessexhi people im new to linux ubuntu 12.04 infact im new to linux all round, can anyone help me install  theme16:38
osseNo it's not what it was16:39
popeymatthewL: where'd you get that? UfA?16:39
matthewLpopey: what is that?16:39
popeymatthewL: you said you had Ubuntu for Android.16:39
matthewLpopey: yes. http://linuxonandroid.blogspot.com/16:40
four04@mikeinessex I have no idea how to install themes, I've tried numerous times and I've had no success.  I'd google it.16:40
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mikeinessexfour04 thanks for the reply. i have tried instructions from google searches yet the themes are never in tweaks to use16:41
matthewLpopey: it is incredible!16:41
xanguafour04: mikeinessex open your personal folder, Control+H to show hidden directories, search for ".themes" and extract the themes there; ".icons" for icon themes16:41
mikeinessexyh i did that i extracted in downloads then pasted into theme folder which i had to make with terminal16:42
mikeinessexbut still no luck16:42
ActionParsnipmatthewL: why run it though. I don't see the benefit.16:42
ActionParsnipmatthewL: apart from to say that you can16:42
ossexangua, I found it. I had to install the gnome-search-tool package16:43
matthewLActionParsnip: yes, what I was after was something more mobile than a laptop or netbook--my phone and a bluetooth keyboard for CLI programs!16:43
ActionParsnipmatthewL: you can use a bluetooth keyboard on the device already and run the native apps16:44
tbrown2012I was wondering has anyone installed DirectX under Ubuntu Before:) If so how can I start doing that am going to try to install it with WineHQ I hope it works16:44
matthewLActionParsnip: yes, android has C++ and Perl/Python scripting abilities.16:45
bm27_So, I turned my computer on and Flash content is refusing to run :-/ I've uninstalled/reinstalled through ubuntu software center and downloaded the APT from Flash's site. My problem is in both FF and Chromium.16:46
matthewLActionParsnip: however, to get a true g++ or javac experience, full linux is needed. Which linux on android is able to provide!16:46
ActionParsnipmatthewL: makes sense :)16:46
tbrown2012I was wondering has anyone installed DirectX under Ubuntu Before:) If so how can I start doing that am going to try to install it with WineHQ I hope it works16:46
matthewLActionParsnip: thanks!16:46
ActionParsniptbrown2012: wine is an abstraction fr directx, so installing it makes no sense at all16:47
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tomek_hi16:48
tomek_how change colors of file manager?16:48
tbrown2012ActionParsnip: For your information it does not Install it all the way it just a patch of files that are connect to each other: Like a gun without bullits if that make sense. Am trying to install updates to it so running it in WineHQ is a smart way to go:)16:49
roothorickWhen I'm using full 3D Unity, I have redraw issues in Firefox. I'll hit page-up and the screen won't actually change but when I scroll it'll scroll from a page up16:49
roothorickthis is ONLY when using compiz though16:50
ActionParsniptbrown2012: you don't need it, its already there for all intents and purposes16:50
bm27_tbrown2012: According to Wine HQ it seems like there is a lot of work to be done for DirextX16:50
roothorickwhat package do I file THAT bug under?16:50
roothorickcould it be firefox? compiz? X? Something with Unity maybe?16:50
zokier`sounds like video driver issue16:50
tbrown2012bm27_ Thank you some one notice the main point:)16:50
ActionParsniproothorick: i'd say compiz, as it draws the app windows16:50
escottroothorick, i would disable compiz and see if it goes away. but its probably compiz related16:51
ActionParsniproothorick: does it affect all windows?16:51
roothorickActionParsnip: as far as I've seen, just firefox16:51
roothorickActionParsnip: but if I'm using unity2d, it draws just fine16:51
ActionParsniproothorick: then its compiz16:52
pac1I installed phpsysinfo, but /var/www/phpsysinfo is missing.  previous versions had it in the file list.  precice doesn't16:52
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r3b3l10nWhats up...16:54
roothorickapport doesn't want to let me file a bug :/16:54
ActionParsniproothorick: run:  ubunty-bug compiz16:55
ali_hi, how can i query for synaptic progress from a command line, im trying to add unity progressbar to synaptic, and that's my missing part of the puzzle, thanks :)16:55
r3b3l10nanyne nows the greatest win 7 exploit?16:55
Othi`ctrl alt delete16:56
roothorickActionParsnip: that's what I did, it told me I should seek support elsewhere16:56
OerHeksr3b3l10n, not really an ubuntu-support issue, is it?16:56
ActionParsniproothorick: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; apt-cache policy compiz       thanks16:57
r3b3l10nyes @OerHeks16:57
strkany idea why update manager doesn't prompt me to dist-upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 ?16:57
Daekdroomstrk, it's not going to prompt automatically until the release of 12.04.116:58
ActionParsnipstrk: try:  sudo do-release-upgrade16:58
strkDaekdroom: ah! thanks16:58
DaekdroomUntil then you have to 'make' it offer you the upgrade16:58
jribstrk: see the release notes on how to upgrade (if you don't want to wait)16:58
strkgood policy16:58
roothorickActionParsnip: what's that commandline utility to pastebin off a pipe again?\16:59
nemchiknot ubuntu specific but im doing a project using the zip command and this is the command im using "zip -r /path/of/destination/file.zip /path/of/source/files/" and the zip im getting is in the right place, but it's contents are /path/of/source/files/[insert file or folder name here] when all i want is the files and folders in the zip, not deep inside multiple parent folders based on where it came from in my system16:59
chicognui wish to load ubuntu instaled on my hd to my ram, is it possible ?17:00
nannesHi. I've a pc without internet connection, I need to install on it some software with apt-get.   How can I download .deb files from another ubuntu-box, (including dependencies) and move them to the other one?17:01
EvilResistancechicognu:  you mean make Ubuntu RAM-only?17:01
EvilResistancechicognu:  not really possible17:01
nyuszika7hHi17:01
EvilResistancenot if its already installed (liveUSBs may allow it, but not fully)17:01
nyuszika7hIs the big and ugly Plymoth logo fixed already in 12.04?17:01
nyuszika7hLast time I tried (11.10?) it was still there.17:02
nyuszika7h(with proprietary drivers)17:02
EvilResistancenyuszika7h:  boot up a livecd and see17:02
nyuszika7hI need reboot to apply those drivers no?17:02
nyuszika7hIf I reboot live CD everything is lost that I did on it17:02
chicognuEvilResistance: i wish to do the same as the live cd with the option --toram, but with the OS already installed in my hd17:02
ClientAlivewhat if I were to pose my question like this... ?   'What is the single, highest performance, way to share storage between kvm guests on a single box? I think that's really at the heart of what I'm seeking - not just sharing storage but the best, most lightweight and feature full way of doing so - regardless of the level of challenge it may present.17:05
ActionParsnipnyuszika7h: there are fixes17:05
inhyeoggimhello17:05
bm27_I think my computer hates javascript...where should I start my troubleshooting journey?17:05
OpenBSDT40bm27_: turning off javascript?17:06
roothorickthere's that too. Sometimes the screen just stops refreshing period17:06
bm27_OpenBST40: How would I go about doing that? this is happening accross all my browsers17:06
OpenBSDT40bm27_: use noscript for firefox17:07
NoobTuxanysite for screenshots?17:07
NoobTux!screenshots17:07
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.17:07
xubuntuhola17:07
OpenBSDT40bm27_: there is likely a similar one for chromium, not sure about opera or others17:07
xubuntuhola17:08
OpenBSDT40!es | xubuntu17:08
ubottuxubuntu: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:08
bm27_OpenBST40: Yeah, I've only tried through Epiphany, Chromium, and FF17:08
ActionParsnipNoobTux: i've got an imgur upload script, it's like pastebinit for images :)17:08
roothorick"Force full screen redraws (buffer swap) on repaint" fixed the scrolling issues in firefox17:08
nannesHi. I've a pc without internet connection, I need to install on it some software with apt-get.   How can I download ONLY THOSE (not the whole repo) .deb files from another ubuntu-box, (including dependencies) and move them to the other one?17:10
OpenBSDT40!aptoncd | nannes17:10
ubottunannes: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline17:10
alankilanannes: if you copy them from /var/cache/apt/archives, and place them there on the other host, it might just work.17:10
ActionParsnipNoobTux: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/imgur_upload; chmod +x ./imgur_upload; sudo mv ./imgur_upload /usr/bin17:10
NoobTuxActionParsnip, http://imagebin.org/211317 can u explain this for me? :(17:11
DaekdroomHow to I remove duplicated entries in the set of applications Dash is showing me?17:11
Daekdroom*do17:11
nannesalankila: but they are different versions17:11
ActionParsnipNoobTux: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc17:11
OpenBSDT40Daekdroom: rightclick and unlock from launcher?17:11
nannes!offline17:11
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD17:11
alankilanannes: now you confused me.17:11
CyberkillaDash is rather slow for me, but I think it's just a symptom of an awful integrated ATI GPU :(17:12
NoobTuxActionParsnip, Lucid17:12
DaekdroomOpenBSDT40, what I'm saying has nothing to do with Launcher.17:12
ActionParsnipNoobTux: I can't see an issue, the wifi is connected and unblocked....17:12
nannesalankila: The pc from which I'd have to take them has a different version of ubuntu, than the pc which needs those packages17:12
alankilanannes: okay, I think I got it. See apt-get --download-only or something, no idea if you can force all deps17:12
DaekdroomI'm getting duplicated, non-working entries in the Dash application list.17:12
OpenBSDT40Daekdroom: ah, just got you17:12
NoobTuxActionParsnip, yeah it's working but using airmon-ng ain't possible! wireless ain't there i dunno sounds weird tho17:13
LeianaHi I am trying to run ubuntu on my Acer Aspire One netbook. I have it set up on a USB stick. But I have a huge problem with the graphics17:13
sirknightLeiana,  i can help you here i have the same one17:14
ActionParsnipNoobTux: i'd ask in #backtrack-linux then, they will have experience and cracking wifi is offtopic here17:14
LeianaIt's like taking up only the top half of the screen and every time I move the mouse it leaves weird trails behind the mouse17:14
TohuwWhat is wrong with my syntax here: ufw allow on eth0 from any to 10.254.7.5 smbd17:14
LiquidDemocracyHow can I enable IP routing on my machine? sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward gives "permission denied"17:15
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: the sudo doesn't traverse the redircetion17:15
SolarisBoy'on eth0' looks off17:15
alankilaLiquidDemocracy: use a root shell, you fall into the redirect shell trap17:15
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: echo "1" | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward17:15
ActionParsnipalankila: no need if you use tee ;)17:15
SolarisBoyor sysctl17:16
sirknightLiquidDemocracy,  ad your self to admin lv gruop then try again, after that root lv17:16
TohuwSolarisBoy: so what is the proper syntax for specifying the interface then?17:16
NoobTuxhmmm i doubt if they'll help me there i've been there....i'm just wanna get my wifi detected tho nothing more or less this ain't about wifi hacking i bet it's still covered here in terms of configuring hardware hehehe i guess?17:16
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, no error this time.17:17
irenicus09ActionParsnip: man I see u active 24/7 on this channel...I wonder whether you're a A.I or human :P17:17
LiquidDemocracyHow can I verify now that routing is enabled?17:17
ActionParsnipNoobTux: if your issue is with airmon then it is offtopic. Your wifi is connected and working17:17
NoobTuxi guess u're right sorry my bad17:17
SolarisBoyTohuw: off top im not sure - i know ufw is a wrapper around iptables and _everything_ is not possible (not saying what your trying to do is/isn't) but in general there are ways to set more complex rules.17:18
ActionParsnipirenicus09: i work stupid european shifts so I'm awake a lot but then asleep a lot, at all sorts of stupid times17:18
SolarisBoyTohuw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW17:18
ActionParsnipNoobTux: its cool :)17:18
ariel__can anybody tell me if adobe readers bugs is fixed in ubuntu 12.0417:18
irenicus09ActionParsnip: keep up the good work! :P17:18
OpenBSDT40ariel__: ask adobe17:18
ActionParsnipirenicus09: you too :017:18
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ariel__openbsd whats there channel17:19
ActionParsnipariel__: all software has bugs dude17:19
TohuwSolarisBoy: I read and used an example from that documentation. I'm aware it has limitations, but the manpage specifically states you can specify an interface17:19
ActionParsnipariel__: #openbsd17:19
Elly1-17:19
OpenBSDT40ariel__: any reason you need thier reader? can't use an open source pdf reader?17:19
ActionParsnipariel__: or #bsd17:19
matelotQuestion (12.04 Unity): I have installed WINE and an app (Foxit pDF Reader), how to launch the app ?17:19
SolarisBoyheh17:19
LiquidDemocracyActionParsnip, How can I verify now that routing is enabled?17:19
ActionParsnipLiquidDemocracy: traceroute and ping.....17:20
ariel__no bui cant use an open source reader i just like adobe readers features17:20
ariel__can17:20
OpenBSDT40ariel__: in that case have fun contacting adobe17:20
SolarisBoyTohuw: i guess in/out is what your missing then17:20
SolarisBoyas per the docs..17:20
SolarisBoyufw allow [in|out] on eth0 from any to 10.254.7.5 smbd17:21
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TohuwSolarisBoy: I'll give that a shot, though the indication from the docs is that not specifying a direction defaults to allow in...17:22
ariel__actionparnsip what version are you on17:22
SolarisBoywell - afaik the manpage doesn't reference that type of usage - and then other than that you have these internet sites..17:22
TohuwSolarisBoy: Yeah, I still get "wrong number of arguments". In the manpage, "ufw allow in on eth0 to any port 80 proto tcp" I am additionally taking advantage of ufw's ability to read from init.d.17:24
SolarisBoyTohuw: i think to review the complete line again.. one sec17:24
SolarisBoyit still looks odd... imho17:24
semitones_teaIs there a way to make 12.04 login faster? It takes me about 20 seconds from when I enter the password to when I have a working desktop17:25
SolarisBoy'ufw allow in on eth0 to any port 80 proto tcp' this is an example from the doc17:25
alankilaufw makes me sad.17:25
SolarisBoyme to17:25
SolarisBoyi don't get the point - iptables is not that bad...17:25
alankilaI've tried to use it but each time ended up rewriting the commands into rc.local to do the firewalling manually17:25
ceausesculol17:25
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: hardware specs?17:25
OerHekssemitones_tea, get a SSD, saves 10 seconds ( 20 sec from login is not bad)17:25
SolarisBoyatleast it seems more normal - in the case of ufw - they remove the need to know whats going on underneath - in turn - remove the actual know how - AFAIK17:25
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alankilaaround the time you need to hack some MASQ or SNAT or DNAT or REDIRECT it becomes just untenable. And all the 100 chains it makes don't make me too happy either. Nice and extensible, they think. Opaque and obtuse seems more apt.17:26
SolarisBoyTohuw: your syntax is still incorrect it appears17:27
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ubuntuBoot!say a17:27
ubuntuBoot!seen ceausescu17:27
ubottuI have no seen command17:27
semitones_teaOpenBSDT40: I've got a hp pavillion dm4, I don't know the specs exactly17:28
SolarisBoyalankila: precisely17:28
ubuntuBoothai sa va dau la muie ma17:28
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: most important is likely graphics driver17:28
semitones_teaOerHeks: I'm looking for more software optimization at this point -- I installed 12.04 as an update so there might be some things that built up17:28
semitones_teaOpenBSDT40: hmm, how do you figure?17:29
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: have you tried bootchart?17:29
OerHekssemitones_tea, 20 sec is acceptable.17:29
semitones_teait's not from poweron to login, it's from login to desktop17:29
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: does bootchart go that far?17:29
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: unity uses compiz, compiz requires decent graphics drivers17:29
TohuwSolarisBoy: I found the issue. I mistakenly believed ufw read from init.d, it does not. It reads from /etc/service. I'll just have to make an app profile for smbd. Thanks.17:29
SolarisBoyTohuw: hmm ok17:30
semitones_teaOpenBSDT40: ah ok, I'll try 2d then17:30
SolarisBoythe rule was incorrect in any event17:30
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: think so17:30
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: if 2d is just as slow then you're likely right, cruft from an upgrade17:30
ghost__i need to no why my wm ware is not workins17:31
merajhi, i need help.17:32
SolarisBoyghost__: do you mean vmware?17:32
OpenBSDT40meraj: thats awesome, we need a description of the problem17:32
merajB/ttchs_ are u digi doll.17:32
meraj???17:33
ghost__yes it not making the orapion systerm17:33
SolarisBoyghost__: can you be more detailed? does it start and you have an issue installing a guest OS? or does it not start any longer?17:33
merajB/tchs_ are u didgi doll??17:34
merajB/tchs_ frm fb17:34
DesbrekoIs anyone alive in here?17:35
kristianpaulHi17:35
DesbrekoI'm trying to revert my phone back to 2.3.3 with kdz updater17:35
ghost__solarisboy i do have isse it make it it wont install it go through it but when it finsh it nothing there17:35
DesbrekoAnyone done this before??\17:35
kristianpaulMy bran new ipod touch iOS 5.1 dont want work with fresh installed Ubuntu LTS 12.04..17:35
escott!ot | Desbreko17:36
ubottuDesbreko: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:36
SolarisBoyghost__: make a pastie of the error17:36
meraj<OpenBSDT40>,i v downloaded video fro youtube ,bt nt able to ply  wit vlc plr? can u suggest?17:36
kristianpaulrhythmbox fails to initialice it..17:36
DJonesDesbreko: I think there is #android channel that might be able to help with that17:36
kristianpaul:-(17:36
ghost__it dont say error17:37
meraj<OpenBSDT40>,i installed the coded command, ubuntu-restricted-extras17:37
meraj<OpenBSDT40>,still nt able to ply17:37
SolarisBoymeraj: what format is the video in?17:37
merajsolarisboy: .flv17:38
katiathe woman in black17:38
OpenBSDT40meraj: vlc works for me17:38
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: could I post a bootchart here, and see if any of the stuff that's booting is cruft?17:38
meraj<OpenBSDT40>,can u tell me wat to do?17:39
ghabitHello. I have installed minidlna server. How to add it to autoload on boot?17:39
SolarisBoymeraj: try starting vlc from the command line and see more details on the error17:39
matelotQuestion (12.04 Unity): I have installed WINE and an app (Foxit PDF Reader), Now how to launch the app ?17:39
OpenBSDT40meraj: i'm not sure sorry17:39
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: sure.17:39
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: this is from this morning, I don't think it shows what happens after you get to the login screen. http://imgur.com/UEdw217:40
merajsolarisboy: one thing is tat,after terms n codition its nt coming forward option during installation.17:40
FatPenguinhello everyone - I have a question regarding btrfs if anyone is available to answer it17:41
merajsolarisboy: wat to do?17:41
mazalmeraj: What browser do you use ?17:41
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: might be pulseaudia17:42
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: might be pulseaudio17:42
merajmazal: mozilla firefox17:42
semitones_teahmm17:42
mazalTry this:17:42
merajmazal: tell me17:42
escottFatPenguin, if you dont ask you wont know17:42
mazalMeraj and is it youtube ?17:42
merajmazal: ya its youtube17:43
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: hmm, that unity greeter looks like more of a problem though17:43
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: you have a lot of disk activity17:43
SolarisBoyis that an old system?17:43
FatPenguinfor btrfs, is there a command line tool to show disk usage (I have setup a RAID10 array, and would like to confirm that it is indeed mirroring properly)17:43
mazalmeraj: Install firefox add-on "download helper" , that will download the file in mp4 format. Maybe that helps17:43
SolarisBoymeraj: did you start vlc from the commandline with the file name as an argument yet?17:44
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: It's been through quite a few updates, is that what you mean? I got it about two years ago17:44
merajmazal: can u say me fr installation command17:44
echo083when i make a mv command from my computer to network folder my read write attributes are lost any idea ?17:44
semitones_teaOpenBSDT40: yeah, I see it using CPU. anything I can do about that17:44
echo083but attributes are kept when i use cp17:44
merajsolaris boy: ya17:44
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: more so the disk seems to have a lot of activity during boot, and it is spikey so i was wondering17:44
SolarisBoymeraj: and what did vlc say?17:45
escottecho083, what kind of network system is this? how are you connected?17:45
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echo083escott, it is a samba network share17:45
escottFatPenguin, its in the btrfs faq. btrfsctl du i believe17:45
merajsolarisboy:its nt able to ply youyube video,sm code err17:45
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: not sure sorry, i thought the unity greeter was just ran on the first run17:45
SolarisBoy?17:45
SolarisBoymeraj: can you post the pastie to the error please?17:46
FatPenguinescott Thank you, I will look that up17:46
echo083escott, initial permission -rw-r--r-- and final permission -rw------- on the network share and only if i use mv ! strange isn't it ?17:46
SolarisBoymeraj: it may not be "vlc" it may be the file as well fyi17:46
SolarisBoyhave you tried another flv file?17:46
merajsolaris boy_ wait doing17:46
The_BROSunzip fails to deal correctly with filename encodings. Whats the way to fix it?17:46
sanduz2ssh is asking for an 'askpass' program or 'tty' but the only askpass program i see listed in repos are all X/Gnome based... isnt there some sort of non-graphical ssh login helper?17:46
merajsolaris: fr every video sam err17:47
mazalmeraj in firefox go to tools - ad-ons. Then "search download helper". It should be the very first one showing. On the right click on install. It's icon is 3 little circles (red , yellow, blue)17:47
SolarisBoyexpect =)17:47
escottecho083, a move might create a new file with a new umask. although it seems a little strange. this is a mounted CIFS share?17:47
mazalmeraj: If all video formats gives same error then downloading in mp4 format won't help17:47
SolarisBoymeraj: _every_ video?17:47
SolarisBoymeraj: including other video types?17:47
echo083escott, yes mounted i can read write like i want on it after the mc i can go in the folder and change manually with chmod like i want17:48
echo083escott, mv*17:48
merajsolaris: it s able to ply other videos, bt frm youtube .flv video nt able to work17:48
SolarisBoyok17:49
echo083escott, where is defined the mv umask ?17:49
SolarisBoymeraj: can you try a flv from somewhere _else_?17:49
merajsolaris: so wat to do?17:49
SolarisBoyread my last comment.17:49
merajok17:49
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: hmm what does the disk access mean?17:49
escottecho083, my guess is that mv maybe doesn't understand the potential umask issues when moving across an fs boundary as well as cp does.17:49
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: in your case, i observe the disk read/write spiking at boot time and then calming down17:50
lars_Hello people!17:50
merajsolaris: its nt able to ply .flv video17:50
SolarisBoyyou have high i/o wait at boot17:50
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SolarisBoymeraj: ok17:50
zykotic10echo083: you are aware you can't use chmod on FAT/NTFS right?17:50
SolarisBoymeraj: post the error please17:50
SolarisBoyon pastie.org or such17:51
merajok17:51
echo083zykotic10, oh no windows filesystem my samba share is on a debian server17:51
ActionParsnipmeraj: install gnome-mplayer   may help17:51
escottecho083, perhaps you have cp -a aliased, and when mv reverts to cp; rm; it drops the archive flag17:51
echo083zykotic10, full ext417:51
evocgood evening17:51
echo083escott, i just use "cp -rvf" to copy my files17:51
semitones_teathere's something causing a spike at 45s, but I can't see what it could be http://imgur.com/UEdw217:51
merajsolaris: find the err:   VLC can't recognize the input's format:17:52
merajThe format of '/home/user/abc.flv' cannot be detected. Have a look at the log for details.17:52
escottecho083, you could strace the two commands and try to see what is going on17:52
echo083escott, ohhh nice idea !!17:52
echo083escott, i do it now17:52
sirknightzykotic10,  why is that?17:53
meraj<ActionParsni: tell me d installation cmd fr gnome-mplayer17:53
era878I can't install nvidia drivers somebody please help17:53
zykotic10sirknight: why is what?  fat/nfts not being about to use chmod?  because fat/ntfs isn't POSIX compilant17:53
ActionParsnipmeraj: what does:  file /home/user/abc.flv    output?17:53
virilquestion: mount /dev/md0 /mnt .... after this ... ls -l /mnt ... no etc folder. what's going on?17:53
sirknightmeraj,  what do you need help with?17:53
semitones_teaOpenBSDT40: is pulseaudio supposed to run at boot?17:53
ActionParsnipera878: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current17:54
sirknightzykotic10,  posix?17:54
era878ActionParsnip: it says driver activated but not in use17:54
FatPenguinescott, everything appears to be working fine, thanks for the help!17:54
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: do you have a lot of programs during startup? things in rc.local etc?17:54
zykotic10sirknight: basic transplation would be unix17:54
merajsolarisboy:  i posted  d err17:54
OpenBSDT40semitones_tea: in yours i see it run after lightdm17:54
SolarisBoymeraj: i saw it17:54
sirknightzykotic10,  ohhh ok17:54
SolarisBoymeraj: use file or maybe even ffmpeg -i if you have it installed to print the filetype.17:54
merajfind the err:   VLC can't recognize the input's format:  The format of '/home/user/abc.flv' cannot be detected. Have a look at the log for details17:55
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: let me check. dropbox is the only one i can think of17:55
ActionParsnipmeraj: sounds like a bad file17:55
SolarisBoymeraj: do you have ffmpeg installed?17:55
SolarisBoyActionParsnip: i think so too17:55
merajsolaris : no17:55
SolarisBoyok17:55
merajsolaris: tell me wat to do?17:56
SolarisBoygive me a second type?17:57
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: rc.local is empty, but according to "startup applications" I'm running dropbox, weather applet, redshift, and synapticks touchpad initiator.17:57
SolarisBoyi don't know what redshift is but the others shouldn't be _that_ bad..17:57
merajsolaris: wat??17:57
semitones_teasynaptiks touchpad configurator actually17:57
SolarisBoymeraj: hold on.17:58
merajsolaris:ok17:58
echo083escott, i got the guilty line : fgetxattr(3, "system.posix_acl_access", 0xbffddfc0, 132) = -1 EOPNOTSUPP (Operation not supported)17:58
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: redshift makes the screen less blue at night to help you not stay up so late. it's kind of like f.lux17:58
koothello17:58
SolarisBoyoh17:58
sirknightmeraj,  just reinstall vlc player17:58
SolarisBoythats what i was thinking17:58
SolarisBoyor maybe do you have a non-standard version installed? like something from some ppa or something?17:59
kooti get error in python: TypeError: libmemcached does not support SASL, on ubuntu 12.04, how i can add SASL to libmemcache? :|17:59
SolarisBoyrecompile it?17:59
kootonly way is to ./configure --witch-sasl? :|17:59
SolarisBoy--with-sasl18:00
hoseinh_kalhori64@yahoo.com18:00
hoseinm,jk18:00
merajsirknigt: reinstallation process ,is same or  different?18:00
TriesteHi, I'm on kubuntu 12.04, and I get this really long error about flashplugin-installer not able to download, when I log in18:00
kootehh....18:00
SolarisBoymeraj: how did you install vlc?18:00
hoseinvrvcwd18:00
tBagHi, How i can log in other room?18:01
merajsolaris:ucing cmd:   install vlc vlc-plugin-pulse18:01
OpenBSDT40tBag: /join #wherever18:01
tBagi mean how fast change room18:02
SolarisBoyok.. i assume you mean apt-get install?18:02
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: maybe i'm slow because I'm using an old kernel? (it looks like 3.0 something)18:02
merajsolaris:  ya18:02
OpenBSDT40tBag: what do you mean?18:02
SolarisBoyinteresting18:02
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OerHeks semitones_tea what makes you think 20 sec is slow?18:03
SolarisBoymeraj: try to re-install as suggested i guess18:03
SolarisBoymy vlc works absolutely fine =) .. one sec let me check the version18:03
tBagOpenBSDT40: its ok18:03
semitones_teaOerHeks: it's a long time to wait after you type in your password. In the past it was only like 4-5 seconds.18:03
merajsolaris: can u tell me reinstallation cmd18:03
tBagOpenBSDT40: its ok18:03
SolarisBoyVLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)18:03
OpenBSDT40tBag: its better than ok, its awesome!18:03
irvkenwhat is a kernel?18:03
SolarisBoymeraj: 'sudo apt-get purge vlc' to remove it18:04
zykotic10!kernel | irvken18:04
ubottuirvken: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)18:04
OpenBSDT40irvken: core of the operating system18:04
SolarisBoyand to install it 'sudo apt-get install vlc'18:04
merajok18:04
tBagOpenBSDT40, how i can write to one user??18:04
SolarisBoymaybe you can sudo apt-get update in the middle just in case there was some newer version18:04
OpenBSDT40tBag: pm them? /msg nick whatyouwanttosay18:05
merajok18:05
tBagOk thanks :) cya18:05
OpenBSDT40tBag: more irc basics are available in #freenode18:05
irvkenwhy are there lots of linux kernels?18:05
tBagok18:05
stan_man_cananyone know of a good article on how to setup sendmail on 11.11?18:05
SolarisBoyirvken: they change versions alot "upgrades"18:05
SolarisBoyirvken: also there are different types of kernels - like those for virtualization etc18:06
SolarisBoystan_man_can: what do you want to set it up to do?18:07
irvkenwhat does an upgrade involve, more drivers, better file system support etc?18:07
stan_man_canSolarisBoy: I just need it running so I can make the php mail() function work18:07
SolarisBoystan_man_can: ok should be simple enough - do you have a MTA that will receive and send out your messages or are you just playing locally?18:08
nannesI'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access18:08
OpenBSDT40irvken: and bugfixes and other features18:08
SolarisBoye.g. are you sending to gmail addresses or local addresses?18:08
jacobraskAnyone else having problems with the Ubuntu One app on Android? I have a Galaxy SII and it crashes all the time. Is it a new app?18:09
irvkenho w do I find out what the best kernel for my hardware is?18:09
nannesI'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access18:09
nannesI don't have ubuntuCD!  Is there a way to download those packages from the web, right now? I mean, why there aren't http versions of ubuntu repos?18:09
Triesteirvken: usually the newest18:10
stan_man_canSolarisBoy: I'll be sending to third party emails18:10
OpenBSDT40irvken: not usually an issue, more of an issue finding the right drivers18:10
stan_man_canso I guess I need to setup an MTA?18:10
OpenBSDT40irvken: usually graphics and wireless18:10
LiquidDemocracySorry, this is not really an Ubuntu question. I have the linksys wrtg54 switch. Last time I used it was a few years ago. I can not get to its web interface. What could I be doing wrong? Iam directly connected via cable and the IP adressing is set to automatic dhcp18:10
SolarisBoystan_man_can: thats probably the easiest way. and set your mta to forward mail to a gmail account and such18:11
SolarisBoystan_man_can: then you just point mail() to the localhost and sendmail will handle the rest18:12
zykotic10nannes: tried http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?18:12
nanneszykotic10: ye, but I don't see "pool" dir..... I need restricted repo18:12
stan_man_canSolarisBoy: I dont even have sendmail installed yet though. I literally know nothing.18:13
stan_man_canlol18:13
AreckxI am trying to install windows xp. My current partition is 140 GB and it is the only partition, ext4. What I want to do is RESIZE the partition WITHOUT doing a complete reinstall. I want to install Windows XP on a new partition that is taken from part of the ext4 partition, thus creating an NTFS partition. There is currently a linux swap partition on /dev/sda5 and an Uncategorized partition.18:13
VeseojHey guys, since I upgraded to 12.04 whenever I start typing somewhere after a while it inserts an * before whatever it is. This happens everywhere (terminal, browser, etc).18:13
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: is your ip address what you expect it to be?18:13
merajsolarisboy: this option is coming:Configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer18:13
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: for instance if DHCP goes out on the router (reboot) and you get an APIPA address 169.x.x.x you could be "directly connected" but still not on the proper network18:13
merajwat to do?18:13
SolarisBoymeraj: no clue =)18:13
SolarisBoymeraj: accept defaults?18:14
SolarisBoymeraj: those are fonts - i dont see how those will help you =)18:14
AreckxWhat documentation would you recommend I read in order to do this?18:14
SolarisBoystan_man_can: thats ok - its not that bad - sendmail is annoying - i like postfix - but its cool18:15
OpenBSDT40Areckx: gparted to the rescue!18:15
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Yes I have this open right now18:15
SolarisBoystan_man_can: http://appgirl.net/blog/configuring-sendmail-to-relay-through-gmail-smtp/18:15
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  What do I do?18:15
OpenBSDT40Areckx: from a livecd?18:15
stan_man_cando sendmail and postfix do the same thing?18:15
LiquidDemocracySolarisBoy, I don't get an IP address. My laptop keeps trying to connect to the router.18:15
SolarisBoystan_man_can: yes18:16
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  I can make one... Right now I just have the ISO of Winxp as well as a backup of my previous USB livecd18:16
SolarisBoystan_man_can: postfix has a way better management interface afaik18:16
SolarisBoystan_man_can: sendmail is ancient18:16
AreckxThat I made from an Ubuntu machine18:16
stan_man_canThen I'll use postfix :)18:16
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: keeps trying?18:16
SolarisBoystan_man_can: so give me one more second.. ill get a diff articly18:16
OpenBSDT40Areckx: you can't resize a partition that is in use, hence the need for a livecd18:16
LiquidDemocracySolarisBoy, yes. I do not get an IP address.18:16
AreckxI may have access to DVDRs but I am unsure. I would like to do this without anything but my computer if possible.18:16
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: then you don't connect to web interface =)18:16
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  I see....18:17
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: try to reboot it if it is seems "random"18:17
ActionParsnipthere was a preview release out 30 days ago for sendmail18:17
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  So once I had the livecd verified running, what would I do in gparted?18:17
OpenBSDT40Areckx: a usb would do the trick too18:17
SolarisBoyActionParsnip:  really?18:17
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  That may be an option18:17
LiquidDemocracySolarisBoy, exactly I can not connect to the web interface. Already rebooted a few times.18:17
merajsolaris: bt this term n condition page is nt moving forward.18:17
merajwat to do?18:18
OpenBSDT40Areckx: i'd need to see your partition layout and what you want18:18
ActionParsnipSolarisBoy: yeah, postfix had a preview release out 9 days ago, both extremely active :)18:18
SolarisBoysweet18:18
Chris_0076hey, is there any way to keep the windows from jumping back up to the top of the screen when I move them in 12.04 (gnome classic)18:18
OpenBSDT40Areckx: screenshots are glorious!18:18
ActionParsnipSolarisBoy: although the stable is newer18:18
SolarisBoyaha18:18
SolarisBoyi run into sendmail way more often than postfix at work.. unfortunately18:18
Chris_0076for example, if I move a window half way down the screen and then click somewhere else, it will jump back where it was18:19
SolarisBoystan_man_can: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/11/relaying-postfix-smtp-via-smtpgmailcom/ | for postfix18:19
aaaswhat is the command to find out which package provides a particular file....so i want the intput to be a particular file to reutrn the corresponding package18:19
Areckxhttp://i.imgur.com/ZuZRh.png18:19
SolarisBoydpkg -S aaas18:19
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  http://i.imgur.com/ZuZRh.png18:20
aaasSolarisBoy thanks18:20
SolarisBoywelcome18:20
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  We both had the same idea18:20
SolarisBoymeraj: im not sure what terms/license vlc installs..18:20
OpenBSDT40Areckx: wow, that will be easy18:20
LiquidDemocracySolarisBoy, The linksys wrt54g has a DHCP server, doesn't it. I forget.18:20
petri_how you are doing wiht new ubuntu 12.0418:20
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: yes - and they are known to be horrid..18:20
OpenBSDT40Areckx: resize sda1 and add a new partition18:21
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: reboots usually fix it, but if its old there may be no saving - you can try a factory reset..18:21
virilquestion: mount /dev/md0 /mnt .... after this ... ls -l /mnt ... no etc folder. what's going on?18:21
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Really? resize is grayed out18:21
virilmissing boot, bin and etc folders. what do you think guys?18:21
OpenBSDT40Areckx: you are on it, you need to use a livecd18:21
LiquidDemocracySolarisBoy, I tried the reset button. No  improvement.18:21
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: thats not a factory reset18:21
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Oh ok, so that's all I have to do?18:22
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: there is a sequence of pushing the button and releasing it18:22
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Once I get the livecd, I just resize it and presto?18:22
OpenBSDT40Areckx: indeed, if all you want is another partition18:22
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: did you do something similar to that?18:22
LiquidDemocracyLiquidDemocracy, then how do I do it?18:22
SolarisBoylol18:22
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Now once I resize it, can I format that usb stick?18:22
LiquidDemocracySolarisBoy, no.18:22
merajsolaris: can u tell me wat is dis,it came during vlc installation,,,"Configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer "18:22
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: look at the manual for your device18:22
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  I would need to boot the Winxp image from the same usb18:22
LiquidDemocracySolarisBoy, would you happen to know what the sequence is?18:23
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: if it's a wrt54g - i believe it's hold it for 30/30/3018:23
semitones_teaI ran a new bootchart -- it looks like apparmor is going crazy http://imgur.com/MZ5zU18:23
OpenBSDT40Areckx: so you don't have an xp cd? you want to do it via usb?18:23
SolarisBoyso 30 seconds holding the reset - remove the power cable - still holding reset for 30 - insert power cable - 30 second still holding reset..18:23
SolarisBoyi think is what it is... LiquidDemocracy give me a second to see if i can find it online18:23
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  yes I have an ISO file18:24
SolarisBoyLiquidDemocracy: http://technicallyeasy.net/2008/01/how-to-reset-linksys-wrt54g-wireless/18:24
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Can I do it with an Ubuntu bootable usb installer?18:25
virilquestion: mount /dev/md0 /mnt .... after this ... ls -l /mnt ... no etc folder. what's going on? missing /bin, /boot and /etc. what do you think?18:25
OpenBSDT40Areckx: not sure sorry18:25
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Oh it seems UNETbootin is available for Ubuntu18:27
BlueProtomanI'm trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 from 11.10, but I get this error when trying to use the Update Manager; http://pastebin.com/NYW4EveR18:27
BlueProtomanAny tips?18:27
merajsolaris: is it compulsory to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer .??18:27
merajkindly reply me.18:28
AreckxI have used this program to install Ubuntu, I think... I don't remember if the 12.04 native usb maker did the trick or if UNETbootin ended up working....18:28
OpenBSDT40!who | meraj18:28
ubottumeraj: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)18:28
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: it also seems your network doesn't come up until about 50 seconds in18:29
merajubouttu: hey i mentnd name.18:29
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Thank you for the help. This seems like a good answer to my problem. I will let you know if it worked or not.18:29
SolarisBoyis that a dependancy of vlc meraj?18:29
OpenBSDT40meraj: no, you said solaris, that isn't his full nick so it won't highlight him18:29
Apoelneed help computer will not boot at all18:30
OpenBSDT40Areckx: awesome, have fun18:30
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: which process are you looking at for that?18:30
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  Trying to install WoW in Ubuntu...18:30
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  I think winxp is the only solution for now18:30
merajsolaris boy: it shows during uninstallation n saying killing of dpkg..18:30
OpenBSDT40Areckx: wow works in wine apparently18:31
OpenBSDT40!appdb | Areckx18:31
ubottuAreckx: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help18:31
Martin2012Hi, I would like to know if Asus Xonar DS sound card works fine in Ubuntu18:31
drdozerhi - having weird problems getting my ubuntu PC to boot18:31
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  The WoW installer keeps saying it doesn't have enough processing power, but my machine meets the requirements18:31
drdozerit hangs without writing anything to any logs18:31
drdozerctrl+alt+delete reboots18:31
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: the network manager and few other services that should start after network all start after that basic time18:31
Maxwell712Help meeee! My other computer somehow fucked up during upgrading and now won't boot properly. It just goes to that purple splash screen with the four little blinking dots and stays there indefinitely. How can I fix this upgrade whilst retaining all of my previous information?18:31
OpenBSDT40!language | Maxwell71218:32
ubottuMaxwell712: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:32
Maxwell712Why are bots allowed here?18:32
SolarisBoytheir helpful so you don't have to be redundant18:32
SolarisBoy*they are18:32
BlueProtomanAnyone?  11.10 -> 12.04 error?  http://pastebin.com/NYW4EveR18:32
BlueEagleMaxwell712: Because it's the offician channel bot? :D18:32
Maxwell712I could use more constructive advice.18:33
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BlueEagleMaxwell712: Then I suggest you mind your language when asking the questions. :)18:33
drdozerwe can boot my pc from a pen drive18:33
drdozerbut not from the hd18:33
AreckxThere is always SOME person behind every bot18:33
SolarisBoyevil scientists18:34
OpenBSDT40!text | Maxwell71218:34
ubottuMaxwell712: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode18:34
Maxwell712I can boot from a pen drive, no problem though.18:34
drdozerit gets past grub but no further18:34
Maxwell712Thank you.18:34
AreckxHow do you know I'm not a bot?18:34
Maxwell712Then just update and upgrade again?18:34
OpenBSDT40Maxwell712: maybe starting in text mode will let you see something useful18:34
SolarisBoyAreckx: i can smell your blood18:34
BlueEagleBlueProtoman: Does it say anything before "could not calculate the upgrade"?18:34
BlueProtomanBlueEagle: Nothing of significance, the previous steps go along just fine.18:35
indystormhow do I get the video not to blank out after 5 minutes on ubuntu server 10.04 lts 32 bit?18:35
OpenBSDT40indystorm: blank out? your screensaver kicking in?18:35
AreckxSolarisBoy::  Good point...18:35
indystormyeah thats what I mean... it goes to a blank screen after 5 minutes.18:36
BlueEagleBlueProtoman: Well if you're 100% positive that the exact step of the setup process is of no consequense when reading the context of the error then you know more about the installer than I do. :)18:36
OpenBSDT40indystorm: turn off your screensaver18:36
SolarisBoyB-)18:36
indystormHow do I do that on server with no GUI... whats the command for that?18:36
Apoelubottu: once the pc opens an error message comes up saying error file not found and grub rescue and it does not let me boot into windows or ubuntu which i have removed by fromating and will not let me also enter the recovery18:37
ubottuApoel: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:37
LiquidDemocracyI want to do the following but I can not get it to work. I have a linksys router wich has tow DHCP client PCs named "B" and "C". The linksys router is connected to PC A 's eth0 via LAN cable. PC A also has Internet connection via USB WLAN. I can not connect to the Internet from Client "B" or "C". What could I be doing wrong? PC A can access the Internet and routing is enabled.18:37
BlueEagleBlueProtoman: It reminds me of this support call that came in where a customer weren't able to print to a printer and when I asked if it was a black and white printer he repliced "No, it's more silvery colored." </digression>18:37
Apoelonce the pc opens an error message comes up saying error file not found and grub rescue and it does not let me boot into windows or ubuntu which i have removed by fromating and will not let me also enter the recovery need help18:38
waelsy123_hllo18:39
waelsy123_hello18:39
BlueEagleApoel: Did you install from an USB-drive?18:39
BlueEagle!hello | waelsy123_18:39
ApoelBlueEagle: yes i did18:39
saeLiquidDemocracy: I think you want to do a network sharing scenario, right?18:40
OpenBSDT40BlueEagle: that factoid was removed a while back18:40
waelsy123_I just need a help to verify my phonenumber for facebook account18:41
BlueEagleApoel: Then it may be that the installation routine was confused as to where it should place the boot loader. To assist you with this it would be helpful if you boot from the USB drive and then start an IRC client from the live environment.18:41
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: hmm I wonder why the network starts that late... maybe that's what makes it take so long for me to get my desktop18:41
BlueProtomanBlueEagle: So what can I do, then?18:41
BlueEagleOpenBSDT40: Indeed it has.18:41
jn_Have anyone successfully installed db2 on latest ubuntu? http://pastebin.com/tMu61b5t18:41
Areckx!pastebin18:41
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:41
_TristanHello. Is it a good time to upgrade to 12.04?18:41
semitones_tea_Tristan: aye :)18:42
BlueEagleBlueProtoman: Well I do not even know which stage of the upgrade is causing the error so for me to help you at all a further description of the error scenario would be helpful.18:42
_Tristanlovely18:42
ApoelBlueEagle: dont have ubuntu installed anymore as i have formated the partitions but will try and loging throught the live usb18:42
OpenBSDT40_Tristan: i recommend fresh installs18:42
BlueEagleBlueProtoman: Perhaps more info can be found in a file in /var/log?18:42
_TristanOpenBSDT40: Why, did we get a new filesystem again?18:42
BlueEagleApoel: Ahh, so you have removed Ubuntu before restoring the windows boot loader?18:42
BlueProtomanBlueEagle: It's software sources, I think.18:43
ApoelBlueEagle: yes18:43
OpenBSDT40_Tristan: no, just more is likely to go wrong with an upgrade18:43
_Tristanah18:43
BlueEagleOpenBSDT40: What's the factoid for helping people restore the windows boot loader? :)18:43
OpenBSDT40!grub218:43
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)18:43
OpenBSDT40!brain | BlueEagle18:43
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ApoelBlueEagle: the grub rescue comes in and allows me to write commands and staff but dont know what command to write18:44
BlueEagleOpenBSDT40: I could if I would, but you're much smarter and more helpful than I am. :D18:44
BlueEagleApoel: Technically, it is #windows that is broken, not #Ubuntu. :D18:45
tBag.18:45
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: it looks like I have clamav-freshclam starting, but I don't even have clamav installed...18:46
ApoelBlueEagle: will try and there but thought i give it a shot here first thank you18:46
kennethsimeQuestion: UDS is local to me this year. I was thinking of attending one day. Is it open to the public, or do I need to register?18:46
OpenBSDT40Apoel: ##windows can help with restoring the windows bootloader18:46
DJonesApoel: To fix your Windows MBR, this should help http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392 as long as you've got the Windows install discs18:46
BlueEagleApoel: Google offers this advice: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32523/how-to-manually-repair-windows-7-boot-loader-problems/18:46
ApoelDJones: this is the problem dont habe them18:47
SolarisBoysemitones_tea: thats interesting - are you sure it's not installed? a virus update on startup seems on course with those type of writes/reads18:47
ApoelBlueEagle: thank you will check the link18:47
_Tristanalternatively, you may consider lighting your computer on fire and then cutting it into pieces with a chainsaw. That might fix the issue.18:48
BlueEagleApoel: If you decide to try Ubuntu in the future please check WUBI. It will allow you to install Ubuntu like a windows application and uninstalling it will automatically restore the boot loader. (if I remmeber correctly)18:48
OpenBSDT40BlueEagle: a vm is better and safer18:48
eutheriayay i have eclipse using the global menu! so much screen real estate reclaimed!18:48
LiquidDemocracyHow can I give eth0 the IP adress 192.168.2.2 ?18:49
LiquidDemocracyPermanently18:49
ApoelBlueEagle: thank you for the hint but i was thinking trying fedora. I have difficulty in adjusting to unity interface18:49
OpenBSDT40Apoel: unity isn't the only option18:49
OpenBSDT40Apoel: kde, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment18:50
ApoelOpenBSDT40: tried Lxde but everything got all messed up18:50
semitones_teaSolarisBoy: it's not coming up as installed in the ubuntu software center18:50
BlueEagleApoel: Then might I recommend Xubuntu, which is Ubuntu with the XFCE4 front end? It's my flavour of choice.18:50
OpenBSDT40Apoel: xfce is my favourite18:51
BlueEagleOpenBSDT40: I knew I had a reason to like you from the start! :D18:51
exiffGreetings, does ubuntu-one support client-side encryption/transparent encryption?18:52
ApoelBlueEagle: will try it then before going to fedora18:52
BlueEagleexiff: https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/what-security-and-privacy-policies-does-ubuntu-one-have/18:53
exiffThanks BlueEagle.18:55
OpenBSDT40!cookie | BlueEagle18:55
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OpenBSDT40tBag: you'll want to change your password, and do it outside a channel18:56
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LjL...18:56
exiffThat's a pretty weak excuse for not storing stuff encrypted, since you could just do what firefox sync does... but oh well.18:56
BlueEagletBag has got his birthday in the not-too-distant future too..18:58
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LiquidDemocracyHow can I use a PC to route between to local 192.168 networks?18:58
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BlueEagleexiff: I think that the challenge with automatic encryption is that you loose platform independence. You could of course argue that _Ubuntu_ one should only have to cater to Ubuntu machines and as such you could easily add transparent encryption and not worry about other platforms breaking.19:00
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BlueEagleexiff: ...on the other hand, when you need access to that file you know you have on your one account and you're at a friends house that only has windows you'll still be happy that you're able to retreive it. :)19:01
exiffHow does platform independence affect it ? Wouldnt the client just use a key to decrypt the files?19:02
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: How are the two local networks connected?19:02
ulkeshAlrighty, I can no longer login to my Ubuntu desktop.  I removed my ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring (attempting to get rid of the "enter password" every time after logging in and getting my desktop)...now when I go to login, it goes right back to the login screen, i've tried lightdm and gdm...any ideas?19:04
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, PC A is connected to the Internet via USB WLAN Adaptor and also connected to a linksys router swith wrt54g19:04
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LiquidDemocracyI want clients connected to the linksys to be able to access the internet via the USB Wlan adapter19:04
iku-ikuhi, i want to watch a movie with ubuntus preinstalled movieplayer but when i toggle fullscreen it goes to the wrong screen... thanks for your help19:05
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, the USB Wlan is 192.168.1.0/2419:05
cocoloshow can I stop x while in ssh?19:05
cocolosI tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop19:05
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yeatscocolos: in newer releases, lightdm is the default, FYI19:06
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OpenBSDT40cocolos: 11.10 onwards use lightdm by default19:06
cocolosyeats, OpenBSDT40: I am on 10.0419:06
_zioni got video lag on ubuntu unity19:06
duryodhanHi .. my suspend doesn't work via closing the lid, or clicking on the power button and choosing suspend. Doing it manually ("echo shutdown > /sys/power/disk; echo mem > /sys/power/state") seems to work fine. Any ideas/suggestions on what I should look at ?19:06
yeatscocolos: then it would be gdm, yes19:06
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: You want to set up a network address translator.19:06
duryodhanZenbook UX3119:06
_zioni got video lag on ubuntu unity is it anyway to fix it quick?19:07
cocolosyeats: Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)19:07
cocolosutility, e.g. service gdm stop19:07
cocolosSince the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an19:07
cocolosUpstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility, e.g. stop gdm19:07
yeatscocolos: 'sudo service gdm stop'19:07
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, how?19:07
cocolosyeats: I get this: sudo service gdm stop19:08
cocolosstop: Unknown instance:19:08
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yeatscocolos: so is X still running then?19:08
cocolosyeats: yep19:08
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semitones_tea_zion: you might want to use unity 2d, it's a lot faster19:09
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: Shorewall can do that quite neatly. The trick is to configure the WRT54g to use your computer as its internet gateway. It will then handle the routing and NAT-ing of the wireless clients. You on the other hand must NAT to the WRT.19:09
cocolosyeats: any idea?19:09
_zioni got video lag on ubuntu unity is it anyway to fix it quick?19:09
semitones_tea_zion: ^19:09
yeatscocolos: sorry, I don't19:09
greywalk_hi. is there any information on when adobe flash player is available in the repos again?19:09
_zionsemitones_tea,  ?19:10
semitones_tea_zion: try installing and using unity 2d from the software center19:10
BlueEagle!flash19:10
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash19:10
ulkeshAlrighty, I can no longer login to my Ubuntu desktop.  I removed my ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring (attempting to get rid of the "enter password" every time after logging in and getting my desktop)...now when I go to login, it goes right back to the login screen, i've tried lightdm and gdm...any ideas?19:10
xangua!info flashplugin-installer | greywalk_19:10
ubottugreywalk_: flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.233ubuntu2 (precise), package size 8 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)19:10
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, but how should I configure the linksys router. Both local networks can not be 192.168.0/24 can they.19:11
greywalk_the installer is installed, the player was removed with the latest update, wasn;t?19:11
_zionsemitones_tea,  its installed already19:11
BlueEagleulkesh: Well atleast you now know why you rename system files instead of deleting them. :)19:11
semitones_tea_zion: try logging out, and choose unity 2d as the session before logging in again19:12
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: I suggest looking up the manual for the linksys router. Normally you would need a wired connection to the router and set it up using a web interface.19:12
ulkeshBlueEagle, thanks for the non-help, any real ideas to fix besides pointing out the obvious?19:12
_zionsemitones_tea, thanks ill try19:12
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, Yes I am already connected. But what should I set for values?19:13
semitones_teanp :)19:13
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: If you connect a computer to it and set it to obtain an IP from it and then open a webbrowser and go to routerlogin.net you may be taken to the web interface.19:13
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BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: I think I remember some of the WRTs stealign that address.19:13
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle,  I am already there.19:13
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, see the USB WLAN network of PC A is 192.168.1.119:14
LiquidDemocracyThe eth0 network of PC A should be?19:14
LucasCamposHey there. I made a stupid mistake, and now I cannot use install Linux anymore. Instead of using dd to sdb, I used to sda. That obviously broke my OS. Now I'm trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 over it, but everytime I try I get this error: "Could not install grub to /dev/sda. This is a fatal error"19:14
semitones_teaulkesh: can you login on a virtual terminal19:14
AreckxI am having problems installing WoW on 10.04, should I upgrade my UIbuntu?19:15
AreckxUbuntu^^19:15
ulkeshsemitones_tea, yup, i'm trying to add another user to see if that route will help19:15
LucasCamposI have already tried to get a new partition table, but it was useless19:15
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: Well if the WLAN subnet is 192.168.1.0/24 the WRT may well be 192.168.0.0/24.19:15
OpenBSDT40Areckx: mention in #winehq what version you are using and see if a more recent wine would be better19:16
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  I have, and they said 1.4 is the latest for 10.0419:16
seekwillHello. The "Print Screen" key takes a snapshot of the whole desktop. Is there a way to make it default to the "Select area to grab" cursor instead?19:16
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, so I should make the linksys router IP 192.168.0.1?19:16
OpenBSDT40Areckx: are you using compiz?19:17
AreckxWhat is that?19:17
OpenBSDT40Areckx: compiz fusion, fancy desktop effects19:17
zykotic10OpenBSDT40: unity (3d) is also compiz19:18
Areckxoh, should I install it???19:18
scythera easy issue, i unpacked a tar archive and it was ._* file for every * file, and now I want to remove all of thoose file, but how can i do it easy in the terminal. i want the command to go recursive in the subfolders19:18
OpenBSDT40zykotic10: i know, he is using 10.0419:18
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  I have compizconfig19:18
zykotic10OpenBSDT40: ahh, not applicable then.  sorry.19:18
zionsemitones_tea, its works thanks a lot u saved me !!!!19:18
qwerty123Hey guys, will the normal ubuntu download work for netbooks?19:18
OpenBSDT40Areckx: wine doesn't work well with compiz19:19
semitones_teazion: no problem man! :D19:19
OpenBSDT40Areckx: it is in the #winehq topic19:19
AreckxOpenBSDT40::  So I need to remove it? How can I do that in terminal?19:19
semitones_teaqwerty123: yes :D you can install it to usb19:19
OpenBSDT40Areckx: no, just use metacity instead19:19
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xanguaAreckx: if you use lucid run "metacity --replace" to temporaly disable compiz and try that game19:20
qwerty123semitones_tea, will a live cd also work?19:20
semitones_teadoes your netbook have a cd drive?19:20
qwerty123ah, good point xD19:21
qwerty123quite embarassing19:21
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BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: Just to make sure I understand this correctly; is this your setup? http://pastebin.com/b5Q9FGUu19:22
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, absolutely correct19:23
saeseekwill: you might want to use Shutter instead19:23
saeseekwill: look for it in the software center19:24
seekwillsae: I could map that to the PrintScreen button?19:24
seekwill(look it up now)19:24
semitones_teaHow long does it typically take to login to ubuntu?19:24
seekwillsemitones_tea: three seconds on my SSD drive :)19:24
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: Ok, the interface on the ubuntu box is the one you want to have set as 192.168.0.1, the WRT54g interface should instead be something like 192.168.0.10. This will leave you with eth0 (or what ever) = USB WLAN = 192.168.1.1 and eth1 = interface to WRT = 192.168.0.119:25
semitones_teanice :D19:25
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, When I click on advanced routing on the wrtg and choose operating mode "Gateway" and enter the values I get invalid lan IP or gateway19:25
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semitones_teaseekwill: mine takes more like 15 seconds -- I'm trying to figure out if there's some software misbehaving19:25
saeseekwill: you can have shutter in the launcher, when right clicking on it will give you some options for capturing19:25
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seekwillsae: Ah, very nice. Similar to Droplr on my Mac too, it seems (automagic upload)19:26
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: On the WRT you want to specify 192.168.0.1 as the gateway as well as set the IP of the interface to 192.168.0.10.19:26
LucasCamposSo, did this happen to anyone else?19:26
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, OK, hold on19:26
seekwillsae: Installing it now. Thanks19:27
saeseekwill: I haven't been able to remove the standard print screen app, but checking the shutter settings to you can make it react to print screen19:27
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: http://www.shorewall.net/3.0/two-interface.htm <= please read this for info on setting up shorewall. Your Ubuntu box would then be the firewall/router.19:27
saeseekwill: yw19:28
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BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: To begin with this will seem complicated, but I've been through a couple of firewall/routing setups and Shorewall has been the best one I've found yet, once you get your head around the logic of it.19:29
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LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, I keep getting invalid LAN IP or Subnet Mask.19:30
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: Are you setting the gateway before changing the interface of the network card on the router?19:30
LiquidDemocracyDestination LAN IP: 192.168.0.1, Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0, default gateway: 192.168.0.119:30
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LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, yes, I have not set anything on the router19:31
LiquidDemocracyyet19:31
BlueEaglethe WRT LAN IP needs to be 192.168.0.10, mask 255.255.255.0 and the gateway 192.168.0.119:31
BlueEagleWhen you save these settings you will loose contact with the web interface and need to connect to it using the ip 192.168.0.10. Also you should set the IP of the interface connected to the WRT to 192.168.0.119:32
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, OK, I changed the Destination LAN IP to 192.168.0.10. Still I get invalid LAN IP or Subnet Mask.19:32
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, so etho of PCA connects to the linksys. How do I set the IP adress to 192.168.0.1? I tried to it via the GUI but ifconfig didn't return anything afterwards19:33
drvanon_hey guys when i import photos from my camera via shotwell where will it be imported to?19:34
_ferret_any way to run windows programs in ubuntu or do i have to have both installed19:34
BlueEagleTry /etc/network/interfaces19:34
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: google it for info on setting a static IP on a network car.d19:34
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carlohi19:36
carlociao19:36
carlociao19:36
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FloodBot1carlo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:36
laumonierfirefox use a lot of my cpu more than before is there a problem with firefox on ubuntu 12.4 or not?19:36
carlohacking password hotmail?19:37
carlohacking password hotmail?19:37
carlohacking password hotmail?19:37
carlohacking password hotmail?19:37
FloodBot1carlo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:37
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, found it:) http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/19:37
melchihotmail? uncool. delete the account19:37
LiquidDemocracyBlueEagle, I am just editing the file. Gateway should be 192.168.1.1, correct?19:38
TrDlol19:38
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: On the WRT the gateway should be 192.168.0.1. The eth0 cannot have a gateway that is outside its subnet so leave out the gateway.19:39
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: This done with other routing mojo. :)19:39
LiquidDemocracyYou mean ti should not put a gate way in /etc/network/interfaces ?19:40
zykotic10!wine | _ferret_19:42
ubottu_ferret_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:42
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camilleqcoi am having a problem with skype screensharing now that ubuntu has changed to gnome 319:44
BlueEagleLiquidDemocracy: That is correct. This is because the network interface is in the same box as the network interface that actually does the routing. In other words the gateway for 192.168.0.1 is itself. Take a look at the masquerading section in http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm19:44
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camilleqcoi get the red border around the screen19:45
camilleqcoand i can't scroll to any other window19:45
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_ferret_ok thanks19:45
camilleqcothe only thing i can do is end the call19:45
camilleqcothe other person can see my screen as-is19:45
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ulkeshsemitones_tea, turns out it wasn't the login.keyring (regardless of anyone's crass remarks about not backing it up :) )...it was a bad .profile that was doing something odd (it has an issue doing an export PATH twice)19:45
camilleqcobut i can't manipulate to other programs19:45
camilleqcooops move to other programs or windows19:46
_ferret_would it be easy to install ubuntu parallel to windows on this machine? I'd like to try19:46
ulkeshsemitones_tea, so thanks for attempting to help...i'm all good now and can login just fine19:46
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dibsHi guys, upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04, now apache is refusing to folow my symlinks, get 403's any ideas?19:47
dwqWill Ubuntu 12.04 work on a Powerbook G4? I think I remember reading that Ubuntu didn't support those anymore.19:47
mccI am trying to build an executable with the hopes other linux users, particularly ubuntu users, will be able to run it. My program uses OpenAL. I use '-Wl,-rpath,$$ORIGIN/Internal' to make it load a built copy of openal.so.1 from a local folder19:48
escottdibs, check your apache config file19:48
mccHowever I woud * prefer *, if there is an OpenAL on the system, for it to use the system OpenAL instead of the OpenAL I built.19:48
zykotic10dwq: if that's a powerpc chip, i don't think it's officially supported by ubuntu anymore.  debian probably?19:48
mccIs there a way to make it use system openal preferentially and then fall back on my copy if it has to?19:48
dwqzykotic10: yeah debian works. thanks.19:49
Jeremy3Danyone having internet issues thru ethernet port since 12.04 upgrade?19:51
_ferret_okay im gonna get ubuntu. guess I got a lot of reading and learning ahead of me, never used linux before19:51
zykotic10Jeremy3D: perhaps more details would help.  what card is it for one (lspci | grep -i ethernet) might tell you.19:52
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nickgawHi, when I do the do-release-upgrade -d it does not upgrade me to the next release that is currently being worked on it just says no new release is there a reason why?19:52
eutheriais it really not possible to always show the applications global menu?19:52
zykotic10nickgaw: i doubt 11.10 has anything yet?  is #ubuntu+1 reponed?19:53
zykotic1012.10 ;)19:53
IntuitiveNipplenickgaw: Are you on 10.04 currently?19:53
nickgawyes19:54
Jeremy3Dzykotic10, Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)19:54
FyodorovnaHello channel anybody have that webUd8 link for customizing the classic/fallback top panel I can not find it on the web.19:54
IntuitiveNipplenickgaw: The release upgrade doesn't show until 112.04.1 is out - to ensure any late bugs /upgrade issues are squashed19:54
zykotic10Jeremy3D: you probably shouldn't include my nic (i doubt i can help with your issue) - but what is the issue?  is it working at all?  dropping connections?19:55
FyodorovnaOr a link in the theme of this19:55
Jeremy3Dzykotic10, another quirk I have found is the left applications menu doesn't pull up right away anymore. I have to roll my mouse up and down the left side of the screen to get it to show19:55
IntuitiveNippleJeremy3D: I find 'slamming' the mouse pointer hard into the left side seems to help that19:56
_ferret_why does it say recommended on 32bit ubuntu in download page but not on 64bit? i have 64bit processor19:56
Jeremy3DIt drops connectoin. When I pull up a page or load a video it stops.  Sometimes the page will load all text and no images, etc19:56
Jeremy3DIntuitiveNipple, so you have the same problem too with no good solution (I mean besides slamming the mouse of course, lol)19:57
LiquidDemocracyHOw can I deleted iptable rules?19:57
LiquidDemocracydelete19:57
jrib!iptables | LiquidDemocracy19:57
ubottuLiquidDemocracy: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.19:57
FyodorovnaJeremy3D, you can change the edges pressure point in compizconfig settings manager.19:57
IntuitiveNippleJeremy3D: It seems to have got better with recent updates from the -proposed repository19:57
LinuxMonkey_ferret_: Thats because the 32bit will work on both, go ahead and grab the 64 bit one if you got a 64 bit processor.19:57
IntuitiveNipple_ferret_: 64bit is recommended for 2GB or more RAM19:58
zykotic10_ferret_: do you have a specific reason to use 64bit?  and/or do you have more then 4GB+ memory19:58
Jeremy3DIntuitiveNipple, i've updated every day but stills seems to lag. I'll give Fyodorovna idea a try19:58
_ferret_i have 4 gb memory19:58
_ferret_well i don't know i figured since i have a 64bit processor i should get the 64bit ubuntu version19:59
Jeremy3Danyone have any idea about the internet dropping connection with an ethernet port? all seems fine on windows 7 and was working great with 11.1019:59
FyodorovnaJeremy3D, Yeah the control is in the unity plugin 3rd tab19:59
zykotic10IntuitiveNipple: 2GB would be better to use 32bit for sure (the overhead of 64bit means basically "more" memory is used, and you don't get an advatage until you start addressing MORE memory then 32bit can)19:59
accel24Hey guys, I just got done installing 12.04, and now my dual monitors aren't recognized.  And when I click displays, it is detecting me as a laptop, which I'm not...20:00
_ferret_I see, so 64bit hogs more resources20:00
zykotic10IntuitiveNipple: there are specific use cases (encoding, etc) where 64bit MIGHT be better even with 2GB20:00
LinuxMonkey_ferret_: no it allows you to alocate more resources :)20:00
mccisn't x86-64 inherently faster than x86-3220:00
mccbecause the isa has more registers available to it, etc?20:01
zykotic10_ferret_: you can't think of it like "hogging" - it better really20:01
IntuitiveNipplezykotic10: There was a discussion on ubuntu-devel list recently; the extra registers of 64bit make it faster but the trade-off in using more RAM for instructions makes 2GB the point at which 64-bit is generally an advantage20:01
accel24it asked me to authorize other nvidia drivers, and I had hoped that would help, but it's still the same...20:01
icerootmcc: not more but larger registers20:01
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blockywhat do you call the thing in unity that opens when you press super key20:01
zykotic10IntuitiveNipple: ummm, that's interesting.  good to know - thanks for the correction.  (i still run 64 on my eee with 1gb ;)20:01
IntuitiveNipplezykotic10: Me too!20:02
Jeremy3DFyodorovna, which one do i want? none seem to be doing much. Launcher Reveal Edge Responsiveness, Launcher Reveal Pressure, Launcher Edge Stop Overcome Pressure, Pressure Decay Rate, Edge Stop Velocity20:02
mcciceroot: from wikipedia... "In addition to increasing the size of the general-purpose registers, the number of named general-purpose registers is increased from eight... in x86 to 16"20:02
_ferret_I guess I'll try the windows installer for Ubuntu20:02
LiquidDemocracyIs there a simple iptables command that lets me route all incoming traffic on eth0 to wlan0 (which has internet access?20:02
icerootmcc: hm ok20:02
mcciceroot: afaik x86-64 changed a bunch of stuff besides just the word size, they (amd i think?) used it as an excuse to upgrade the instruction set also a bit20:02
nickgawHi, Why does do-release-upgrade on 12.04 not upgrade to the next development release?  I did the -d switch and still it says no upgrades20:03
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IntuitiveNipplezykotic10: The context of the discussion was whether it is time yet to recommend the 64-bit install by default, based on the arch of the majority of PCs Ubuntu is being deployed on20:03
zykotic1064bit is the future, due to the epoch/unix time limitaion in 32bit - what year is that?20:03
LiquidDemocracyIs there a simple iptables command that lets me route all incoming traffic on eth0 to wlan0 (which has internet access? I tried sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.10 -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE but I do not get internet access on the clients20:03
icerootnickgaw: there are not 12.10 repos at the moment20:03
jribnickgaw: are the repositories open already? In any case #ubuntu+1 for that20:03
IntuitiveNippleLiquidDemocracy: Route? maybe you would be better Bridging those two interfaces?20:03
zykotic10IntuitiveNipple: that was way 32bit is still recommended20:03
accel24anyone have a minute to help me sort out why 12.04 isn't seeing my monitors properly?20:03
_ferret_thanks, very excited to move over to linux. i made the decision because I don't play games as much anymore.20:04
IntuitiveNipplezykotic10: Indeed, but there is talk of adding a rider into the 32-bit installer so if it detects a 64-bit capable CPU it'll tell the user about the 64-bit version20:04
LiquidDemocracyIntuitiveNipple, would you be able to tell me how?20:04
zykotic10IntuitiveNipple: that would be a cool feature (i like debians 32or64bit netinstaller, would be nice to see ubuntu do the same)20:05
LinuxMonkeyzykotic10: not only that but many users dont know that their pc is 32 or 64 bit thus recommending 32 bit since it works for both.20:05
IntuitiveNippleLiquidDemocracy: I run it on my gateway server: I found an article about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge20:05
FyodorovnaJeremy3D, I am in gnome 3 right now, but I think I set the Reveal Edge Responsiveness at 10 so you kind of have to mess around a bit20:05
zykotic10LinuxMonkey: agreed.  it makes perfect sense to recommed 32bit IMO20:05
accel24anyone have a minute to help me sort out why 12.04 isn't seeing my monitors properly?20:06
bit0hello20:06
zykotic10accel24: can i just ask what graphics card you have?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.20:06
nickgawI am also totally blind and had to leave and come back on my debian system as orca reads nothing properly in the gnome terminal somethings it reads properly but others it does not it is like a hit and miss.  there is no option in gnome-orca to enable it after login for the currently logd in user where in ubuntu is there an option to tell what programs run after login in unity?20:07
IntuitiveNippleLiquidDemocracy: I don't know why you'd need to route *all* incoming traffic though... the standard routing table set-up based on the system's interfaces will already route packets correctly to the appropriate subnets20:07
LinuxMonkeyzykotic10: too bad they dont have a dual version on 1 iso(yeah might be bigger) but would install 64bit by default if its detected but allow users to install 32 bit if they choose20:07
blockyhow can I enable desktop sharing from the command line?20:07
_ferret_why can I choose different sizes for the installation?20:07
accel24zykotic10: nvidia .... 8400gs20:07
zykotic10LinuxMonkey: that's what debian's is, both on one iso20:07
IntuitiveNippleLinuxMonkey: There is talk of a dual-arch DVD iso installer20:08
TrelGot a question about the setuid permission on a folder. I have u+s and g+s, and the folder is owned by root:editor. When a file is made, it's getting the ownership digicam:editor. Why is this?20:08
zykotic10IntuitiveNipple: netinstaller would be simplest, most useful IMO ;)20:08
LiquidDemocracyIntuitiveNipple, I use an ubuntu PC to connect a linksys router and an wlan connection to the internet20:08
jribTrel: because digicam is the user who made presumably20:08
icerootLinuxMonkey: then you have must always the size of two isos and i your hardware supports 64bit there is not a single reason to use 32bit20:08
jribTrel: made it*20:08
LiquidDemocracyIntuitiveNipple, could I use these instructions? http://blog.allanglesit.com/2011/02/create-a-bridged-interface-in-ubuntu/20:08
IntuitiveNippleLiquidDemocracy: OK, so on each network device you'd set their "default route" to be the Ubuntu PC's IP address20:09
Treljrib: yes, but I have u+s set on the directory20:09
accel24zykotic10: there are two driver versions that the 'additional drivers' section tells me about, and I have the same results with either20:09
jribTrel: that doesn't do anything20:09
IntuitiveNippleLiquidDemocracy: Is the WLAN hosted on the Ubuntu PC, or a separate device?20:09
zykotic10iceroot: another advatage to using netinstaller (for dual arch install), size wouldn't be an issue.20:09
blockyanyone know what vnc daemon is used by default?20:09
TrelWhy is that?20:09
jribTrel: by design20:10
icerootzykotic10: correct20:10
Treljrib: is it because the owner is root, or would it do that no matter the owner?20:10
jribTrel: if you say what you want to accomplish, then maybe there isnother way20:10
jribTrel: u+s is ignored on directories (in linux)20:10
IntuitiveNipplezykotic10: We can't assume the installer has network access all the time, which is why a DVD is the best option. netinstaller (minimal ISO) is available too20:10
nickgawI can't find any directions for rebuilding the ubuntu iso image either on any ubuntu page and was trying to build a customized version anyone know what package I should look at or web site?20:11
LinuxMonkeyblocky: i believe the default VNC server is vino but unsure, can someone else confirm this?20:11
blockyLinuxMonkey, I think you20:11
blockyre correct20:11
blockyI'm now trying to locate the configuration file and service20:12
blockyI have SSH access to a machine but I need remote desktop access20:12
Treljrib: I want all files created in a directory to be owned by the same owner as the directory itself, regardless of what user creates them20:12
jribTrel: use Access Control Lists20:12
jribTrel: man setfacl, man getfacl, man mount (you need to add the acl option to the partition you want to use ACLs on)20:13
Trelok, that's a bit above my pay grade20:13
_ferret_people, I can't understand why in the windows installer for Ubuntu, I get to choose so many sizes in 'Installation Size', what's that about20:13
jribTrel: ok?20:13
zambahow can i automatically download the kernel headers for the current running kernel?20:13
Trelis there any way to at least have a default permissions for files created in that directory?20:13
jribTrel: yeah, ACLs20:14
Trelor does that require the same20:14
zamba.. whenever a new kernel is downloaded, that is20:14
_ferret_installation size is pre-selected at 12 gb, the OS takes 12 gb?!20:14
Treldamn, that won't be posible then. I'm not able to do things to the partition.20:14
cbhlI'm trying to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 on a VPS from prgmr.com. I've noticed that the system boots fine on 3.2.0-23.36, but when I boot 3.2.0-24.37 it mounts the root partition as read-only.20:14
guntbertzamba: if I remember correctly dkms will pull them in20:14
zambaguntbert: well, dkms didn't20:15
jribTrel: surely you could ask the admin?20:15
accel24I have just installed 12.04 on my desktop, I had both monitors working during the install, but once I rebooted I have only one.  The Display section recognizes my display incorrectly as 'Laptop' and does not see the second monitor.  I have an nvidia 8400gs card...20:15
LinuxMonkey_ferret_:  no it doesn't, it gets you to select a size as it will resize your windows partition and create a new partition for ubuntu of the size you choosen20:15
guntbertzamba: then again: why must it be automatically?20:15
KM0201accel24: did you enable the nvidia driver in the additional driver manager20:16
accel24KM0201: yes, there are two options in there, and I've tried both20:16
Mendicantprobably a common question, does the windows installer for 12.04 do 32bit or 64bit20:16
LiquidDemocracyI am confused. Could anybody please tell me how to bridge eth0 and wlan0 using this tutorial? How do I have to modify it? http://blog.allanglesit.com/2011/02/create-a-bridged-interface-in-ubuntu/20:16
zambaguntbert: because i'm running asterisk and dahdi and that needs to rebuild a kernel module20:16
KM0201accel24: after you enable the driver, (use whichever one it "recommends") you have to enable the extra display in Nvidia-Settings20:16
guntbertzamba: but that is exactly what dkms is for (I thought...)20:17
zykotic10Mendicant: i'd highly recommed you consider "dual booting" over using Wubi.  but YMMV.20:17
azimuti am on a Ubuntu system and want to download the streaming media of this page: http://mediathek-video.br.de/B7Mediathek.html?bc=_163753644&bccode=bfs20:17
azimuthow do I do this?20:17
Treljrib: not somethign he'll do. Let me ask this then. If a directory denies write permisssions, but a file inside allows it, will I be allowed to delete it or no?20:17
tBag-TobiaszWhat is a best bluetooth manager on Ubuntu 10.04?20:17
Mendicantthnx, so just mount the compressed file to the disc drive to get it working?20:17
_ferret_LinuxMonkey ok i got it20:18
jribTrel: try and see :)  I don't think so20:18
KM0201azimut: it's flash, so you'd have to try to find some sort of flash video downloader (i've never saw one, even for windows, except for ones that work with youtube)20:18
balki2hi, i have a problem i can't  remove  a broken software...  somebody a idea ?20:18
TrelIf not, then I'm good with how it's working now.20:18
zykotic10Mendicant: sorry, i didn't think you'd installed already.20:18
guntbertTrel: creating and deleting files requires write permissions on the directory20:18
_ferret_just one more question: will the windows installer allow me to install the 64 bit version?20:18
Trelwhat about modifying if the directory denies write permissions?20:19
jribTrel: user could always just zero out the file though20:19
Mendicantzykotic: I haven't, I'm just trying to figure everything out before i do something wrong and screw up my computer20:19
zykotic10!tab > Mendicant20:19
ubottuMendicant, please see my private message20:19
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jribTrel: if you explain what your end-goal is then maybe we can suggest an alternative to ACLs20:20
Trian3Yesterday my system was running fine, today I'm getting really strange intermittent freezes and video anomalies (screen flashing, etc).  What kind of diagnostic tool(s) would you recommend to troubleshoot this?20:20
zykotic10Mendicant: so how are you planning to install?  cd/usb?  if you boot the media it will allow you to setup a dual-boot quite easily.20:20
Treljrib: I'm trying to get a work around to windows being a pain in the ass caching network permissions20:20
_ferret_seems to be getting the 64 bit automatically through the windows installer20:20
Trel*logins20:20
Trelnot permission20:20
azimutKM0201: for normal flash videos (like on youtube) there is the firefox extension VideoDownloadHelper. But it doesn't work in this case because of the streaming i guess20:21
LinuxMonkey_ferret_: from what i believe it should detect 64 bit and install it automatically unless you force 32 bit20:21
Mendicantmy problem is i don't have any cds or usb's large enough to hold the files20:21
accel24KM0201: gotcha ... rebootin... I think that did it .... maybe there needs to be some notes on the addl driver screen about this...20:21
IntuitiveNippleTrel: Did those ideas yesterday not solve it?20:21
KM0201azimut: that was my point.20:21
tBag-TobiaszAnyone know what is the best blutooth manager?? bluemoon is not supported with BlueSoeil bluetooth.20:21
azimutKM0201: ok I see20:21
KM0201accel24: or maybe you should have read the wiki?... ;)20:21
TrelIntuitiveNipple: sadly no, it still caches the login between the shares20:21
Trian3KM0201: for streaming videos, use StreamTransport.20:21
IntuitiveNippleTrel: Grrrr!20:21
KM0201Trian3: i don't need it.20:21
TrelI went with FTP for the file modification20:21
accel24KM0201: I'm thinking more like my mother right now, than me :-p20:21
accel24anyways, brb20:21
TrelI just need to make sure ultimately the files can't be modified at all through windows20:22
balki2how can  remove  1 not fully installed or removed package ?20:22
zykotic10balki2: try "sudo apt-get -f install"20:22
balki2zykotic10: ok20:22
Trian3azimut: got in mid thread, but was it you that needed a streaming vid download util?  If so, try StreamTransport.  It's worked very well for me.20:23
azimutTrian3: Yes, I want to download a streaming video. i will look for streamtransport, thanks20:24
Trian3azimut: np20:24
eutheriawow the movie has slowed right down to a crawl20:24
* eutheria snores20:24
Trian3Yesterday my system was running fine, today I'm getting really strange intermittent freezes and video anomalies (screen flashing, etc).  What kind of diagnostic tool(s) would you recommend to troubleshoot this?20:24
balki2<zykotic10> did not  work ...20:24
LinuxMonkeylmao I usually help with questions but now i got one, anyone know of any alternatives to "myihome" its a media server generally used to serve up media files to a NMT?20:25
balki2the error message is "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"20:26
azimutTrian3: StreamTransport is windows only, so I should run it with wine, right?20:26
KM0201azimut: how do you plan to run a windows browser plugin, on a linux browser?20:27
Trian3azimut:  Ah, I neglected to check that.  I have it on my Windows box.  I'd presume so, or perhaps there's a linux alternative?20:28
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Trian3azimut:  A search turned up tubemaster (http://www.tubemaster.net) as a recommended alternative20:30
azimutKM0201: Trian3: so if it is not a windows standalone program, that's bad. a linux alternative seems to be rtmpdump, however I didn't get it to work20:30
cocoloshow do I run nvidia server settings as root?20:30
azimutTrian3: ok thanks will look for tuebmaster20:31
Jordan_Ucocolos: Is there a reason you're not using the Additional Drivers utility?20:31
cocolosJordan_U: Well that usually errors out.20:31
cocolosJordan_U: FYI my cuda card is now not being detected after I update the sdk and drivers for 4.220:32
Jordan_Ucocolos: Whith what error message?20:32
accel24KM0201: ... I got the other monitor running.... but it's like.... 1999 Solaris style x type display/cursor..... really weird...20:32
KM0201accel24: it's quite configurable in nvidia-settings, just mess with the settings a bit.20:32
zykotic10accel24: do you have it set to separate x sessions, or twinview?20:33
_ferret_with Ubuntu I'm going to be king of the world20:33
Trian3Can anyone recommend a good comprehensive diagnostic utility?20:33
Trian3My system is bugging out pretty hard20:33
accel24zykotic10: separate... when I did twinview, it showed the same desktop inj each, which I didn't want...20:33
erisdiscordiaIn review of Pangolin I've read that login screens should now reflect the user's desktop. I'm not getting that behavior by default and I can't find a setting for it. I see a setting for it in Unity Tweak but the whole section it's on is greyed out. Where's my mistake?20:33
IntuitiveNippleaccel24: Sounds like you started another X server using "startx" or similar?20:33
cocolosJordan_U: I assume you are talking about the preference->monitors option under 10.04 I get20:33
zykotic10accel24: what do you want?  you need to start another WM/DE on that separate X windows (sorry i don't know how)20:34
cocolosJordan_U: "it appears that your graphic drivers does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool"20:34
zykotic10accel24: twinview should act as one large desktop, across both monitors20:34
SerythMy webcam isn't working. It shows up in cheese, but with a super slow refresh rate, and it's super duper dark. I want to be able to use it for skype...any ideas? Ubuntu 11.10 and openbox20:34
exiffI hope you can disable that feature... coz what if you have an... "unusual" wallpaper... might be embarrassing especially if you use a family computer.20:34
erisdiscordiaexiff, it's so disablable that I can't even enable it20:35
Jordan_Ucocolos: That is not what I am refferring to. System > Administration > Additional Drivers (or possibly "Hardware Drivers" or similar).20:35
Paulo39hi guys. i have a really annoying problem with firefox rendering. as you can see in this image http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1890161/Temp/firefoxfont.png the fonts are not properly rendered. can you help me solving this?20:35
wingnut2626hi guys does anyone know where i can get a windows xp iso?20:36
cocolosJordan_U: I get Downloading package indexes failed..20:36
IntuitiveNippleerisdiscordia: I found you need to right-click the desktop, choose Change Desktop Background, select any other background then reselect the one you want, then log-out/log-in .. then it gets it20:36
icerootwingnut2626: not supported here20:36
tostwickswhat controls the indexing in the dash/hud?  I upgraded from lucid to precise, hardware failures interrupted, the result is only partly functional20:36
Jordan_Ucocolos: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"?20:36
IntuitiveNipplewingnut2626: Microsoft ?20:36
cocolosJordan_U: 1 sec.20:36
Jordan_U!ot | wingnut262620:37
ubottuwingnut2626: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:37
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_ferret_okay, rebooting into ubuntu now, exciting20:38
Jordan_Uwingnut2626: And in fact I probably shouldn't have given that factoid as any answer but "legally from Microsoft" is offtopic for this entire network (Freenode).20:38
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cocolosJordan_U: pastebin.com/y1uhJPeA20:38
Trian3Jordan_U:  rofl!20:38
KM0201azimut: what was that link again to that video?20:38
azimutKM0201: http://mediathek-video.br.de/B7Mediathek.html?bc=_163753644&bccode=bfs20:39
tostwicksAnyone know what package does the indexing used in the HUD?20:40
cocolosJordan_U: Any idea?20:42
escotttostwicks, zeitgeist20:42
tostwicksescott: thanks20:43
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Guest63374how i can change nick ?20:43
Trian3I think everyone's on break...20:44
auronandaceGuest63374: /nick newnick20:44
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Paulo39hi guys. i have a really annoying problem with firefox rendering. as you can see in this image http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1890161/Temp/firefoxfont.png the fonts are not properly rendered. can you help me solving this?20:45
accel24KM0201: zykotic10: ... so now I have 'twinview' enabled, but I have some sort of weird mix between spanning and cloning... the top and left bars are cloned.... but windows seem to span... also, the 'displays' section still is goofy and shows a 3360x1050 laptop.... I guess I was hoping that after I enabled them in the nvidia settings I'd be able to use the normal 'displays' window....20:46
SDrhey ubuntu, my upstart's getting buggy: start mysql says start: Job is already running: mysql , but ps aux | grep mysql   disagrees20:46
KM0201accel24: i think thats an issue w/ unity and dual screens, to be honest (i've not messed w/ Unity and dual screens much)20:46
accel24I haven't had this much trouble with dual monitors in 4-5yrs of running linux....20:47
SDrdo you guys know where upstart stores the pid for started demons?20:47
escottSDr, thats been a problem with init since system V. mysql segfaulted and left a pid file in /run20:47
IntuitiveNippleaccel24: When using NVIDIA the standard display application cannot be used, you have to use nvidia-x-settings20:48
accel24it's never done that to me before, which is why this is frustrating20:48
accel24it's always just... worked20:48
SDrescott, errrrrrrrrrrrm. System V is grandpa's calculator.20:48
escottaccel24, nvidia doesnt support xinerama the way the others do20:48
Serythhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960840#postcount6754888 I'm trying to follow this guide, but I can't work out how to download the correct stuff from launchpad...help please!20:49
accel24on this machine I've always run fedora.... but it's never been a problem... and I was planning on moving all of my office machines over to ubuntu... and they are all dual monitor setups....20:49
LiquidDemocracyHow can I restart networking on Ubuntu on the command line in 12.04?20:49
IntuitiveNippleLiquidDemocracy: If I recall correctly: sudo service network-manager restart20:51
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Guest60320hi20:53
Guest50338hi20:54
cocoloshi20:54
cocolosI get no cuda-capable device is detected after I use the installer from nvidia for sdk and drivers20:55
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logankemphello21:00
cocolosanyone aorund?21:03
Varsuchiyes21:03
cocolosVarsuchi: I am having problems with installing cuda drivers….I get noe cuda-capable device detected21:04
bodomhi there21:04
cocoloshello21:05
bodomis it safe to delete /var/lib/dpkg/available?21:05
Varsuchiwhat ver of ubuntu21:05
cocolosany help getting cuda up and running again?21:05
cocolosVarsuchi: 10.0421:05
accel24KM0201: zykotic10: the winning combination was to unplug the second monitor, and reboot... then plug it back in and 'detect displays' ..... now my only annoyance is that it has the time/user/setting stuff in the top right of both screens21:05
Varsuchicocolos: try following this guide: http://wiki.accelereyes.com/wiki/index.php/Installing_CUDA_Under_Ubuntu_10.0421:05
ferris-after upgrading to 12.04 lts... audacity will not start... I have removed it completely through synaptec and reinstalled it... no go, then I removed it, updated my repository, reinstalled and still no go.21:05
ferris-any help would be appreciated21:06
ferris-this is not the only package that doesn't work21:06
cocolosVarsuchi: Do I still blacklist the same kernel modules even though the version I am installing is different?21:06
ferris-there are others21:06
ferris-but I need audacity to work21:06
ferris-i need to convert wav to mp3 files21:06
IntuitiveNippleferris-: Probably a local configuration issue ... try starting it from a terminal and seeing what it tells you21:06
xanguaferris-: did you try to run audacity in the comand line to see what error(s) get¿21:07
ferris-alsa lib errors21:07
Varsuchicocolos: im not sure. I would follow the guide and try it exactly how they suggest.21:07
fanthomashi, can somebody tell me how to reset default source list? can I choose some official mirror from the command line?21:08
cocolosVarsuchi: ok thanks I'll give it a shot21:08
IntuitiveNippleferris-: I get a lot of those but Audacity does start... what is the last thing you see?21:08
sil3nt|warri0ras ubuntu installd on sdb2, boot on sdb1 with grub on a 16gb pendrive... how do i add entry of a backtrack live to grub ?21:08
xanguaferris-: how about you pastebin and show us the actual error¿21:08
sil3nt|warri0rbacktrack installd on sdb321:08
Mantricok! got ubuntu installed now for the first time21:08
ferris-jackserver is not running or cannot be started21:08
ferris-segmentation fault (core dumped)21:09
IntuitiveNippleferris-: I see that too but Audacity starts... so its not revealing the problem in those messages... let me check more21:09
Dualitycould i run a virtual machine on ubuntu server ?21:10
sil3nt|warri0rDuality: i guess yes21:10
IntuitiveNippleferris-: Just to test if this is caused by your current local config, move the audacity settings folder temporarily: cd $HOME && mv .audacity-data .audacity-data.backup21:10
Dualityyea but run like a os on it?21:10
IntuitiveNippleferris-: Then try starting Audacity21:11
Dualitywith graphics and everything ?21:11
sil3nt|warri0rDuality: yes21:11
Dualityvirtualbox ose that is21:11
Dualitycool21:11
IntuitiveNippleDuality: If you connect to the VM from another PC, yes,21:11
cocolosStill doesn't work…no cuda capable device is detected? any ideas?21:12
EvilResistancecocolos:  is your card verified to have CUDA support?21:13
cocolosEvilResistance: Yes I had it running before, I upgraded drivers21:13
cocolosEvilResistance: and the sdk21:14
cocolosEvilResistance: I found this http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=17116821:16
cocolosEvilResistance: how would I run that script at boot up?21:16
david_hello everyone!21:16
cocolosdavid_: hi.21:16
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CatscaulGuys. My PC boots on text mode. When I start X interface, its process keep running on tty1, still on my account. Anyone can, then, get there and use my account. Is there some way of chaging this? Can someone here help me?21:23
CatscaulI've searched on the web, posted on forum, but still... nothing.21:24
cocolosCatscaul: what version are you running21:25
IntuitiveNippleCatscaul: what Ubuntu version? what desktop environment? how are oyu starting X?21:25
bit0Hello, I need to install i386 software to  my amd64 12.04 Ubuntu system. Any suggestion?, please21:25
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Mantrichow to enter another drive? possible to link 'documents', 'movies' to another drive21:25
CatscaulIntuitiveNipple: I'm using Lucid Lynx, Gnome, starting with startx command.21:26
IntuitiveNipplebit0: 12.04 uses multi-libs so you can install i386 .deb packages21:26
IntuitiveNippleCatscaul: Why not start it with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start21:26
cocolosno cuda-capable device detected anyone familiar with it after updating drivers?21:26
CatscaulIntuitive Nipple: Because I didn't even know about this way of doing that.21:26
CatscaulIntuitive Nipple: Starting this way... Won't the process still keep running on tty1?21:27
IntuitiveNippleCatKiller: ahh! yes, it does all the special stuff including moving to tty721:27
IntuitiveNippleoops!21:27
david_ls21:27
IntuitiveNippleCatscaul: : ahh! yes, it does all the special stuff including moving to tty721:27
david_#politics21:28
CatscaulIntuitive Nipple: But startx does that too. Thing is... It goes to tty7, yes, but tty1 keeps "paused" on startx. I mean, if I get there and give a CTRL + C: a) I'll be still logged on my account. b) This would stop X on tty7.21:29
CatscaulIntuitive Nipple: Do you understand the problem? I can't explain myself very well. =X21:29
IntuitiveNippleCatscaul: Yes I understand - it sounds as if you may have a custom xinitrc or xserverrc or similar file21:32
bit0IntuitiveNipple, sorry, how could I use multi-libs?21:32
Mantrichow do I even browse my other harddrives? for example the one with windows.. where I have all my videos and music21:32
CatscaulIntuitive Nipple: Maybe. I really don't know. I just want X to run independently of whoever starts it, that tty7 run apart of tty1 (or wherever it has started).,21:34
cocolosno cuda-capable device detected anyone familiar with it after updating drivers?21:34
Mantriccan't see my other hard drives21:35
CatscaulIntuitive Nipple: Well, I'll try your sugestion. Thank you very much.21:39
CatscaulIntuitive Nipple: See ya.21:39
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Mantricso it seems I can't access my files on my windows hard drive21:39
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dibsI moved my home to a different drive and upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and now my apache can't serv any site21:40
FishFaceMantric, they should all be listed when you click on the Home folder21:40
dibsI keep getting 403 errors, not sure how to resolve, and help?21:40
dibs*any help?21:41
MantricI don't see my windows drive anywhere21:41
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AbobaAnyone know if it's possible to compile an application on 32-bit 11.10, and then transfer it to 64-bit 12.04?21:43
AbobaThey broke my compile :(21:43
sergiohello21:43
IntuitiveNippleAboba: Yes, it is21:43
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AbobaIntuitiveNipple, do I just copy the folder of the compiled app?21:43
Guest36596i am using the Pinguy 11.1021:44
dibsHas the upgrades to pangolin been breaking other peoples apache?21:44
Abobait broke my wine compiling, that's for sure21:44
Guest36596how can i change my scroll to a different color21:44
IntuitiveNippleAboba: For cross-compiling on the same arch you need to pass additional options to the compiler so it knows what target to build for21:44
AbobaIntuitiveNipple, ah, awesome, um, what?21:45
Abobacould you point me at some article that explains?21:45
IntuitiveNippleAboba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers#A32-bit_Builds_on_AMD6421:46
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winbhello21:47
donkey3herro21:48
donkey3is it possible to change the id of the irssi user?21:48
donkey3like see how wilson@145.3343.3434.44 etc.21:48
donkey3can u change that to wilson3@21.2323.233221:48
menwhere is berry derricious cakeshop?21:49
icerootdonkey3: sure it is .3343 and not a normal ipv4 adrress?21:51
donkey3no i jsut made up digits21:52
donkey3it's a normal ip21:52
icerootdonkey3: so you want to change the ip or the part before the @?21:52
ClientAlivewhat is a command I can run (apt-get <some flags/flags ? >  to find out what apps are installed but exclude anything that's part of the core system ?21:52
donkey3the before part21:52
icerootdonkey3: change the username or maybe there is an irssi-config see #irssi21:53
donkey3k21:53
donkey3tnx21:53
icerootClientAlive: not possible with one dpkg-command21:53
icerootClientAlive: use "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" and then get all packagenames from the core-system and diff the two results21:54
ClientAliveiceroot: right on, but, what does ^ii stand for (some kind of posix I'm guessing) - and - how to I "get all packagenames from the core-system" ?21:55
Floyd42When is the end of life for Ubuntu 10.04?21:56
cdm10!eol | Floyd4221:57
ubottuFloyd42: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades21:57
ClientAliveFloyd42: I thought it was 2 yrs after release for LTS21:57
dj_segfaultClientAlive: ^ means beginning of line, so ^li would match a line that starts with li21:57
Floyd42clientalive ubottu: thanks.  so that means 10.04 should have already reached EOL, right?21:58
HieberrHey everyone, what21:58
ResistanceFloyd42:  no, EOL is a 3 year support21:58
Resistance!10.04 | Floyd4221:58
ubottuFloyd42: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)21:58
Hieberris a good alternative to Thunderbird?21:58
`prixonis there an email client that can connect to an exchange server via owa and also hotmail (without downloading all the mails, just preview them)21:58
Floyd42clientalive ubottu: there was some talk of extending the EOL date for 10.04 since it was the last distro with gnome 2 ..21:59
ResistanceFloyd42:  5 for server21:59
ClientAliveFloyd42: I ubottu is a computer program. I did the same thing at first :)21:59
Resistance`prixon:  exchange stuff isnt processed via OWA21:59
dj_segfaultHieberr: That depends. What don't you like about Thunderbird?21:59
Resistance`prixon:  OWA isnt built to handle email routing requests, so you'd need the exch server info set up in your system.21:59
Floyd42clientalive resistance: haha, d'oh!  okay, so it's 2013 for 10.0421:59
ResistanceFloyd42:  yep, see ubottu21:59
Resistance!10.04 > Floyd4222:00
ubottuFloyd42, please see my private message22:00
`prixonwhat sort of info?22:00
cdm10...Wow, Unity really does not get along with Xchat-Gnome22:00
Hieberrdj_segfault: I don't like that I have to keep thunderbird open at all times to get notifications. That and it looks too cluttered to me.22:00
Floyd42resistance: gotcha, thanks22:01
HieberrSo yeah, any lightweight alternatives to Thunderbird?22:02
xtjacobI'm compiling my own kernel, and it's been sitting at "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms" for about 2 hours now. Should it be taking this long?22:03
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rinzleris there a way to boot from the 12.04 iso in order to upgrade? would I need to have the iso on another partition?22:06
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bodomrinzler: you don't have a cd-drive?22:07
`prixonwhich mail client can connect to hotmail and gmail without downloading all the mails?22:08
rinzlerbodom: Just don't want to use a cd if I don't have to22:09
bodomrinzler: if you want to boot iso, you have to burn it on a cd or make a bootable usb stick.22:10
Floyd42Is there any alternative to Thunderbird and Evolution?  What does LXDE and XFCE use?22:10
bodomrinzler: otherwise, you can always upgrade from internet22:10
bodomrinzler: anyway, be prepared to see your sistem exploding while upgrading :)22:10
cdm10rinzler, you cannot actually upgrade from the ISO unless it's the alternate ISO.22:10
_ferret_I'm using windows, I OWN you22:11
_ferret_okok, thats trolling22:11
cdm10rinzler, in addition, you can boot from ISOs on your hard drive, but I've never done it.22:11
_ferret_well I booted into Ubuntu but couldn't figure out a way to access my windows hard drive22:11
cdm10rinzler, here: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html22:12
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michael__hello I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 alongside my windows 722:12
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michael__I am having a lot of trouble though. can anyone help me?22:12
cdm10_ferret_, open up the file manager, do you see anything under Devices in the left panel?22:12
bodom`prixon: I don't now about hotmail, but for gmail any IMAP mail client will fit22:12
cdm10michael__, how are you trying to run the install?22:12
bodom_ferret_: you should see it under /media22:13
bm27_So, I've been having issues getting some web content working lately. Namely Pandora, Grooveshark, even Facebook sometimes. I've tried enabling/disabling javascript, uninstalling/reinstalling flash, and testing accross several browsers...what should I try next?22:13
michael__i tried booting from a disc, and since that didn't work I installed with wubi22:13
cdm10bodom, this isn't true -- it won't usually auto-mount until you click it in nautilus.22:13
cdm10michael__, what happened when you booted from a disk?22:13
Floyd42bm27: what is the exact error you're getting?22:13
michael__it took a long time to load, and in fact never made it to any sort of screen. all it showed was the desktop22:14
ThePendulumAre there any nice system temperature monitors for Ubuntu that have the option to graph temperatures over time and print them (at least graph them so they can be printed by screenshot or something)22:14
rinzlercdm10: that's what I was looking for. Thanks!22:14
cdm10michael__, is this from the wubi install or booting from the CD?22:14
cdm10rinzler, I don't remember what I helped you with, but glad I could help :)22:14
daneshello, my sound card is not sending audio. In windows when I plug a speaker in the front jack, it mutes the rear jack. It looks like it does the same here in ubuntu but when I disconnected the speaker from the front jack I cannot get any audio. I tried plugging another speaker back but still no audio. I checked in the audio settings but nothing seems to work. Is there a way to reset the audio via terminal?22:15
_ferret_cdm10: what does /media mean? I have to enter a command prompt?22:15
michael__from cd. everything was INCREDIBLY slow. I couldn't even move the mouse22:15
_ferret_i tried lokating my video and music on my windows drive with the media player in ubuntu too22:15
cdm10_ferret_, did you answer my prior question about what you see in the file manager?22:15
_ferret_didn't see, wait22:15
cocoloswhat does Create Device Nodes for CUDA? mean?22:15
cdm10michael__, what are your system's specs?22:16
cocolosdo I need to do that when installing cuda?22:16
bodomdanes: alsamixer22:16
cdm10_ferret_, go to Go > Computer22:16
_ferret_I'm  not on ubuntu now but I can check tomorrow22:16
michael__core i5 2500k, nvidia ge force GTX 460, 4 gb ram, 7200 rpm hdd22:16
cdm10michael__, well, clearly, that's too slow a system :P (kidding)22:17
michael__:P22:17
`prixonbodom, if hotmail supports imap then I would be able to just preview the subjects without downloading them? but still delete them and they will be deleted from hotmail?22:17
cocolosno cuda-capable device detected anyone familiar with it after updating drivers?22:17
cdm10michael__, you said you tried the Wubi install, what happened with that?22:17
cdm10michael__, the slow behavior from the LiveCD might be because the CD is corrupt or scratched.22:18
semitones_teain 12.04, are the default buttons as follows: "close, minimize, maximize:menu" ?22:18
semitones_teafor windows22:18
bodom`prixon: yep, but note that in imap when you delete a mail it gets marked "as deleted" and cleared lately when you use the "expunge" function22:18
michael__wubi installed but when i try and boot into it it crashes and i get scratchy lines across the screen like i got an overheated video card22:18
michael__but i know it's not the video card because windows 7 works perfectly22:19
semitones_tea(i'm using unity 2d, and sometime in the past, someone changed the buttons around in gconf)22:19
`prixonso either thunderbird or evolution will work fine you say...22:19
cdm10semitones_tea, those buttons sound right to me, though I don't think we have a window menu any more.22:19
`prixonwhat info should I get about the exchange server in order to connect to it from my house and not from work?22:19
semitones_teaok, thanks cdm10 :)22:19
cdm10michael__, that's strange... how long did you wait for it? It could have been loading something.22:19
semitones_teaanyone else know for sure where the buttons are22:20
RadPalQuestion please: I'm preparing a partition for install of 64bit Ubuntu [HP dv6 i7 8GB RAM] Should it be ext2, ext3, ext4, or something else?22:20
danesbodom, for some reason the headphones option does not change22:20
michael__i waited over 5 minutes22:20
cdm10semitones_tea, I'm looking at this window's titlebar... it's close, minimize, maximize, but there's no window menu.22:20
semitones_teaoh ok, thanks!22:20
c__I've done a minimal install 12.04 and added packages (Gnome3) as I go. Now my window buttons are missing. metacity --replace & works until reboot. A more permanent solution?22:21
semitones_teac__: i'm just a dumb luser, but what about editing it in gconf-editor?22:21
matthew-parlettei'm looking for some help on adding support in the HUD for an application, any idea where i can go for help on that (IRC channel or web link?)22:21
cdm10michael__, it seems like there's some weird hardware compatibility issue, unless it's an issue with the CD. You could try verifying the CD from the CD boot menu.22:21
webslyHello22:21
xiamxc__, are you using gnome3 with shell?22:22
c__The setting in gconf says it's deprecated. I tried adding values to those keys but nothing22:22
michael__is it better to install with wubi? because that bypasses the cd. which means even if the cd was bad then it should have installed just fine22:22
webslyWhen I press ALT a very annoying dash command thing pops up. can this be turned off?22:22
c__xiamx yes22:22
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webslyubuntu 12.0422:22
cdm10websly, That's the HUD, it's very useful, but I agree, it's very irritating to have it be bound to alt. However, I didn't see a GUI option to remap it -- I'll look around, though.22:23
xiamxc__, i'd use gnome-shell --replace at the place of metacity --replace22:23
michael__my girlfriend installed ubuntu with the same cd that i'm trying to use22:23
c__xiamx thanks ill try that22:23
cdm10michael__, what make is your computer / motherboard if it's self-built?22:24
webslyThank you cdm1022:24
michael__gigabyte22:24
c__xiamx no go.22:24
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scar3crowcan anybody tell me why this: --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271674 <-- works for fluxbox and nor gnome?22:25
ChurchHmm. I'm thinking about upgrading to 12.04 soon .. i certainly don't want nor unity nor gnome3 shell.  any advices/comparisons of available gnome2ish alternatives? Cinnamon/gnome-classic fallback option/that gnome2 port .. or should i go for lubuntu (can xfce be tunable to look like gnome2?)22:25
cdm10websly, it can be changed in the keyboard shortcut settings.22:25
bit0how could I install libc6:1386 ?22:25
c__Church - check out joes window manager22:25
xiamxc__, well if metacity --replace works for you, you can add it to gnome-session-properties, so it run on every login time22:26
cdm10websly, it's under the launcher category.22:26
webslyI looked there and didnt see anything binded to only ALT, but maby I missed it.  Ill have another look22:26
michael__my motherboard is gigabyte22:27
cdm10websly, if you see Alt L, that actually means the left Alt key, not alt+L :)22:27
webslyyeah I just noticed ^^22:28
cdm10michael__, it may help to google your motherboard model and Ubuntu.22:28
webslythx for your help22:28
bodomI'm doin' a manual ubuntu upgrade (of course auto upgrade broken again). apt-get -u dist-upgrade; apt-get --pruge auto-remove; apt-get clean... did i forgot something?22:28
michael__ok i'll give that a shot22:28
michael__thanks22:28
Churchc__: looks like some fluxbox. well, uber lightweightness is not my main priority. Just that i don't wish to change my desktop usage habbits from current config (single panel on top with notification area/main menu/virtual desktops/weather&time/quick launch icons, windows list and lately also appmenu22:28
Dany1chromium don't show download progres bar in unity (ubuntu 12.04),can somebody help me with this?22:29
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cocolosCUDA error: no CUDA-capable device is detected I reinstalled drivers22:29
bm27_So, I've been having issues getting some web content working lately. Namely Pandora, Grooveshark, even Facebook sometimes. I've tried enabling/disabling javascript, uninstalling/reinstalling flash, and testing accross several browsers...what should I try next?22:36
a_b0ybm27_ try windows, that's what i did22:37
dewwmaybe you're behind a proxy that's caching things22:37
bm27_a_b0y: Like the OS? somehow that doesn't seem like a solution. I don't believe I am, but it might be worth looking into. Generally they load for a good 2-3 seconds, then blank out or give me a flash error.22:38
Churchbm27_: btw, are things working better, if you do shift+reload? (IIRC should tell browser/proxy to bypass caching)22:38
troulouliou_devhi samba is not listening on 445 port since migration to 12.04 i see standard input is not a socket, assuming -D option in the smbd log22:39
bm27_Church: Shift + reload isn't doing anything, and I've cleared the cache a few times22:39
rinzlerdoes anybody know of anything that would allow my machine to run as a bluetooth audio endpoint?22:39
a_b0ybm17_ i had trouble with some websites also, i couldn't even send stuff via webmail, and javascript doesn't load webpages accurately at times... i installed windows and everything just works well22:40
fartmanI did a dist upgrade via ssh and now there is no longer a GUI login.22:40
a_b0yi still use ubuntu, but if i want to be productive and actually get things done i use windows22:41
Dany1chromium don't show download progres bar in unity (ubuntu 12.04),can somebody help me with this?22:41
Zimbayou should use the wine a_b0y22:42
a_b0yZimba i tried wine, but the webamil issues still occurred22:42
a_b0yi mean not wine, i tried virtualbox22:43
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scar3crowhow can I change my videoram allocatation or agpapp22:44
scar3crow?22:44
jagginessa_b0y, you have trouble with websites? maybe it's websites not made for firefox.22:44
bm27_a_boy: blah, I use Ubuntu over Windows for lots of reasons, one of them being that this computer probably couldn't run Windows XP very well anymore. I'm doing everything off a jumpdrive on this FUBAR Latitude D510 laptop.22:44
fabiano_melotest22:44
bm27_jagginess: I'm having website troubles accross all browsers, not just FF22:44
a_b0yjagginess i use firefox on ubuntu and windows, problems only happen when using ubuntu22:44
Sir_Fawnpugbm27_, what kind of website troubles?22:44
jagginessmaybe it's an outlook website..22:45
a_b0ybm27_ that was the same problem i was having amoung others22:45
a_b0yjagginess what are the issues with outlook websites?22:45
jagginessa_b0y, it's more tailored for ms internetexplorer22:46
bm27_Sir_Fawnpug: Mostly Flash probleems I'm feeling. Flash content loads for ~2 seconds and then crashes (no crash message except in case of Grooveshark)22:46
a_b0yi know one of the website was using outlook22:46
Sir_Fawnpugbm27_, flash has always been kind of wonky on Linux22:46
alphanumeric`Hi.22:47
Sir_Fawnpugbm27_, I think there's an open source implementation of flash, but I believe even adobe is trying to get users to migrate away from it22:47
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alphanumeric`Anyone know how to change splash screen manually.22:47
Sir_FawnpugIn favor of HTML 522:47
JoeLlamahrm... something tells me this is the major ubuntu IRC channel22:47
Sir_FawnpugJoeLlama, the official one if I'm not mistaken22:48
JoeLlamayup it only has one #22:48
alphanumeric`lightdm is missing or broken.22:48
bm27_Sir_Fawnpug: Yeah :-/ i've uninstalled/reinstalled it a few times now. Disabled and re-enabled it in various browsers, and cleared cache info. The official Flash site has tons of packages for linux users, I've been using the APT, maybe I should re-try my hand at tar.gz stuff though.22:48
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jagginessbm27_, be sure to be using adobeflash and not gnu's flash22:48
Sir_Fawnpugbm27_, if you do that make sure you have multiverse22:48
aragorn5are there any cons to upgrading to 12.04?22:49
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, do you have a broadcom wireless card?22:49
aragorn5(from 10.04)22:49
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, well there's always the possibility the upgrader will bail out22:49
aragorn5Sir_Fawnpug, i can use one if i want22:49
jagginessaragorn5, i think you have to upgrade from 10->11, then 11->1222:49
bm27_jagginess, Sir_Fawnpug: Hmm, where would I go to make sure I'm using the correct Flash? also how do I check for Multiverse presence?22:49
JoeLlamaIt's certainly a BIG channel :)22:49
Sir_FawnpugIf you install from scratch make sure you blacklist b43 first22:49
aragorn5jagginess, ah ok , ty22:49
jagginessbm27_, google: ubuntu wiki flash22:50
aragorn5Sir_Fawnpug, blacklist b43?! that's that?22:50
Sir_Fawnpugbm27_, if you open up synaptic you should be able to set that in repositories22:50
jagginess!flash22:50
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash22:50
alphanumeric`Hello22:50
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, the lack of the b43 firmware seems to cause a kernel panic on the livecd22:50
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, ran into it last night when I was working on indoctr-- err, introducing my neighbor to ubuntu22:50
aragorn5Sir_Fawnpug, holy mother of god!22:50
alphanumeric`You could always download the flash files manually and then watch them via VLC player.22:51
Sir_Fawnpughttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/95667722:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 950295 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #956677 b43: missing firmware causes kernel panic" [High,Fix committed]22:51
aragorn5Sir_Fawnpug, i don't use wireless card.22:51
jostenI just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 LTS.  How do I keep the dash visible on the desktop, but hide when applications get opened?  This used to be automatic in 11.10.22:51
alphanumeric`Browser based flash is really just a fast ticket for advertising.22:51
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, right, but if you have a broadcom card on your machine it'll probably try and autoload the module22:51
trismjosten: dodge windows is gone in 12.0422:51
jiohdican you run the new unity menu thing independently like on openbox for example?22:51
ki4rojosten: Try MYUNITY...it should help you set up your display the way you want it22:52
trismjosten: bug 93014822:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930148 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dodge windows is down but what about making the launcher autohide only on maximised apps ?" [Wishlist,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93014822:52
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, if you're not installing onto something that has such a card though, I imagine you should be fine22:52
trismjosten: although there are links to workarounds in that bug report22:52
aragorn5Sir_Fawnpug, gottcha, thanks22:53
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, in my case the update from 11.04 to 11.10 gave me issues when I tried upgrading22:53
Sir_FawnpugSo you might want to keep that in mind22:53
rinzlerok, so pulse audio is really super unstable. does anyone know of steps to take to make it more reliable?22:53
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bm27_jagginess, Sir_Fawnpug: Thanks for the help guys! Think I got it now.22:54
jostenThanks trism and ki4ro for the help.22:54
aragorn5Sir_Fawnpug, I guess I could always make a liveusb to test the grounds first22:54
Sir_Fawnpugaragorn5, that's certainly a possibility22:55
Sir_FawnpugI've found that LiveUSB works pretty well if your bios supprots it (or if you have grub already)22:55
Sir_FawnpugIf you happen to have grub but no USB booting support you can trick grub into booting it for you22:56
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jagginessSir_Fawnpug, but grub wouldnt be on the usb22:57
Sir_Fawnpugjagginess, well I meant on the MBR of whatever the host drive is22:57
paul_hi all can you see me22:59
RossPaterson14hi guys, any chance of getting some help? :)22:59
RossPaterson14yep22:59
paul_cool Im new to linux22:59
scar3crowhow do I chance my gpu driver from mesa to intel?23:02
scar3crowchange23:02
Daekdroomscar3crow, I'm not sure what you're implying. It is only a mesa driver that provides 3D acceleration for most Intel cards.23:05
scar3crow:(23:05
DaekdroomIt is possible, however, that you're using the Mesa software renderer.23:05
scar3crowI am experiencing poor vid performance in doom3 with 512mb vram23:05
DaekdroomWhat is your VGA?23:06
scar3crowintel 82g3323:06
scar3crowyes I AM using the "mesa" renderer, how do I change it to opengl?23:07
DaekdroomG33 should have 3D support enabled by default.23:08
DaekdroomCould you pastebin the output of 'glxinfo | grep OpenGL'? Installing mesa-utils package might be necessary23:08
Chris_0076is there anyway to get rid of the solid black bar that is the hover text in ubuntu 12.04 (gnome classic)?23:09
scar3crowok ty23:09
scar3crowOpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc23:11
scar3crowOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G3323:11
scar3crowOpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 8.0.223:11
scar3crowOpenGL extensions:23:11
FloodBot1scar3crow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:11
scar3crowsorry23:11
scar3crowpastebin wasnt opening23:11
Daekdroomscar3crow, everything looks ok there.23:11
BacktrackhelpHola23:12
BacktrackhelpHi23:12
ResistanceBacktrackhelp:  preemptive: if you're going to ask about backtrack linux, this isnt the channel23:12
scar3crowso I see... why oh why does my game lag?23:12
DropsOfSerenityhey guys i'm interested in knowing if there are any plans in unity to implement the modal dialogs, that are already implemented in gnome 3, this is enabled in gtk3, we should start utilizing the technology, anyone know anything or where I can read about such plans?23:12
BacktrackhelpYes, but it isn't for backtrack only23:12
BacktrackhelpBacktrack is based on Ubuntu 10.1023:12
BacktrackhelpSo I think is a question for ubuntu 10.1023:13
rinzlerwhat's the key to hold to make grub show a list at boot?23:13
LinuxMonkey!backtrack | Backtrackhelp23:13
ubottuBacktrackhelp: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition23:13
Chris_0076this is what I am talking about: http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9398/screenshotfrom201205061.png23:14
DaekdroomDropsOfSerenity, they were almost shipped in 11.10, iirc, but were removed due to a serious of issues. I'm not sure what are the current plans for them.23:14
BacktrackhelpBut my queston is not for backtrack23:14
BacktrackhelpIs for ubuntu23:14
Chris_0076that is what all the mouse over texts look like for me even on ubuntu menus23:14
DropsOfSerenityDaekdroom, I see, thank you for the information. Know where I can read more about the decision?23:14
DaekdroomChris_0076, GNOME Classic session has some themeing issues, specially with compiz (as opposed to metacity)23:14
LinuxMonkeyalso Backtrackhelp  10.10 is End of Life23:14
ResistanceBacktrackhelp:  just checking ;P23:15
ResistanceBacktrackhelp:  also if the quesiton is on 10.10...23:15
Resistance!10.10 | Backtrackhelp23:15
ubottuBacktrackhelp: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.23:15
ResistanceBacktrackhelp:  you'll need to upgrade to continue to get upgrades23:15
ResistanceBacktrackhelp:  having said this, we can try to help you, so ask your question23:15
Resistance(although note you will probably need Natty or later to get any real updates/fixes)23:15
BacktrackhelpYes23:16
BacktrackhelpSorry23:16
BacktrackhelpI can't change my desktop resolution23:16
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cocoloshello23:16
BacktrackhelpI have changed Xorg.conf so many times...23:16
BacktrackhelpBut I cant23:16
cocolosdoes anyone know about loading cuda after installing the drivers?23:16
Chris_0076also, why does ubuntu 12.04 make windows jump to the top of the screen when I let of of them23:16
Chris_0076?23:16
DaekdroomDropsOfSerenity, never seen anywhere about the decision.23:16
rinzlerwhat's the key to hold to make grub show a list at boot?23:17
BacktrackhelpSo... anybody can't help me?23:17
Chris_0076for example, if I try to move a window half way down the screen. When I move it it will stay, but the instant I click anywhere else and it jumps back to the top of the screen23:17
jhansonxirinzler: shift key23:17
stacyspci just installed ubuntu 12.04 and i have a problem with my internal wifi adapter.i have a dell inspiron 150123:17
rinzlerjhansonxi: thanks!23:17
OerHeksBacktrackhelp, depends on what videocard you have23:17
ClientAliveIf I create a logical volume after the system is installed, and I want it to mount automatically when I boot the computer, how can I do that? I'm using ubuntu 12.04 btw.23:17
cocolosI got an error with cuda while trying to run deviceQuery23:18
rinzler!wifi | stacyspc23:18
ubottustacyspc: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:18
BacktrackhelpLook, after this ubuntu I was with this PC on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS23:18
DropsOfSerenityDaekdroom, for all interested, this article has what I was talking about: http://iloveubuntu.net/compiz-modal-dialog-delayed-oneiric123:18
BacktrackhelpWith 1280/72023:18
BacktrackhelpIn hd23:18
DropsOfSerenityDaekdroom, Thanks, for your help.23:18
BacktrackhelpNow with this 10.1023:18
jhansonxiClientAlive: The LVM will be active at boot.  Just add an entry for the LVM volume mount point in /etc/fstab.23:18
BacktrackhelpUbuntu23:18
rinzlerstacyspc: that will usually help, but if that documentation doesn't check back here for more help23:18
rinzler:)23:19
BacktrackhelpI cant change my desktop23:19
ClientAlivejhansonxi: so it's still /etc/fstab with 12.04 ?23:19
ubuntuHow can I chroot into my system from a Live CD?23:19
jhansonxiClientAlive: I haven't heard anything different (it's been the standard for decades).  However, I'm still on 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).23:20
BacktrackhelpAnybody can help me?23:20
ubuntu_Hi. My Ubuntu 12.10 system crashed.  I'm on my computer now with a livecd of XUbuntu 9.10.  Can someone tell me how to mount my hard drive>?23:21
stacyspcthanks guys this is why i love linux23:21
ClientAlivejhansonxi: ok. I'll look at it. I thought some things changed for grub tho.23:21
Backtrackhelplol 500 people in this irc and anybody cant help me23:21
Backtrackhelplol23:21
ubuntuBacktrack, what is your problem. I'll help you while I wait for help (unless you know how to chroot, lol)23:21
ubuntu_Hi. My Ubuntu 12.10 system crashed.  I'm on my computer now with a livecd of XUbuntu 9.10.  Can someone tell me how to mount my hard drive>?23:22
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Fireboltubuntu_, you don't need to say it more than once23:22
joltikHello?23:22
ubuntuubuntu_: man chroot23:22
ubuntu_Sorry, notused to this system23:22
joltikI'm tring to install ubuntu on an old computer.23:22
jhansonxiClientAlive: Grub only cares about /boot (where the kernel is located).  You only need to worry about that if you move your / (root) to the LVM and want to boot from it.23:22
jribubuntu_: 12.10 won't be released for a few months yet23:22
joltikI've made a "live dvd"23:23
BacktrackhelpANYBODY CAN HHELP ME23:23
BacktrackhelpXD23:23
ubuntu_jrib  I meant 12.0423:23
jribBacktrackhelp: just ask your actual question.23:23
BacktrackhelpOk, I have 10.1023:23
joltikand I've gotten to a screen with a nonresponive mouse on the standard wallpaper with the black bar at the top23:23
jribBacktrackhelp: but first -- are you using backtrack?23:23
BacktrackhelpAnd I cant23:23
BacktrackhelpChange my desktop reslution23:23
jribBacktrackhelp: on one line.  Do not press enter.23:23
BacktrackhelpYesterday I was with 12.04 LTS23:23
musixuser_hola!23:23
LinuxMonkeyjrib:  ive already told him about EOL and Backtrack :)23:24
BacktrackhelpOk23:24
BacktrackhelpEOL?23:24
LinuxMonkeyEnd of Life23:24
jribBacktrackhelp: backtrack support is not in this channel.  Do you know where you need to go?23:24
musixuser_I have troubles with Jack Control! Anybody could help me?23:24
BacktrackhelpI think EOL is a spanish forum?23:24
ubuntu_I have root access, but I can not find the mount command strings used to find a hard drive and mount it from a livecd.  Can someone help me out?23:24
BacktrackhelpMother of god.... I have Ubuntu 10.1023:24
DaekdroomEOL is End of Life. i.e. No support.23:25
Daekdroom!10.1023:25
ubottuUbuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.23:25
pw-toxichi23:25
BacktrackhelpUbuntu 10.10 has no support?23:25
jribBacktrackhelp: if you have ubuntu 10.10 then you need to upgrade to a supported ubuntu release23:25
Daekdroom!End-Of-Life23:25
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:25
BacktrackhelpShit nigga23:25
jhansonxiBacktrackhelp: The resolution limits are usually determined through the DDC - a communications channel between the video card/GPU and the monitor  The driver queries the monitor and tries to figure out the available resolutions that are compatible with both the GPU and monitor.23:25
jribBacktrackhelp: that language is not appropriate here23:25
joltikNow the signal to the screen stopped23:26
pw-toxici just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10  to 11.4 and after a reboot, my desktop does not show up.. i can only see the background... i have waited for about 10 minutes now23:26
musixuser_joluuuooo23:26
BacktrackhelpOk :P, Im just joking23:26
pw-toxichow can i restart the x-server from the command line? (i am connected via ssh from a different machine)23:26
ubuntu_I've tried 3 pages into google and I haven't found the commands I need.  That is why I am here.  Does anyone know enough to help me or should I move on?  Thanks23:26
ubuntuI need to run update-update grub in a chroot'd system, and /boot is mounted under a different partiton. What do I need to do?23:26
jhansonxiBacktrackhelp:  If the resolutions are not being detected automatically then it can be a problem with the driver, card/GPU, cable, monitor, or an xorg.conf file that is overriding the detected settings.23:27
joltikis it possible to go strait to installing ubuntu?23:27
enronwhat controls the thumbnailing of media in a window ?  i have stuff that doesn't get thumbnailed23:27
joltikinstead of going to the live cd part?23:27
ubuntujoltik: you want to run ubiquity23:27
discopatrickis this the appropriate place to ask for help on iptables on ubuntu? specifically, reordering rules?23:27
joltikwhat is ubiquity?23:27
ubuntujoltik: ubiquity is the ubuntu installer.23:27
jagginessubuntu, ubuntu_ < can you guys change your nicks? it can confuse people23:27
HemebondIs there any way to get Gnome Shell to use the keyboard shortcuts defined in the keyboard settings?23:27
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joltikI'm checking the wiki now23:28
joltikthx23:28
jhansonxiBacktrackhelp: Check /var/log/Xorg.#.log to see what X.org is detecting for the active display.23:28
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ubuntu_I would except I am not experienced with IRC,  I'm here on a livecd trying to rescue my system23:28
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enronjust type:   /nick HelpMe_______23:28
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SteveoTest23:28
jribpw-toxic: sudo service lightdm restart  (if you are using lightdm, the default)23:29
joltikwhere can I download ubiquity?23:29
songandsilence72there, finally the nickserv likes me23:29
OerHeksubuntu maybe this is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot23:29
songandsilence72joltik: ubiquity should be on the live cd23:29
songandsilence72try running it from a terminal.23:29
BacktrackhelpThats in white23:29
joltikhow?23:29
pw-toxicjrib, i upgraded from 10.4. so i used gnome .. what is lightdm?23:29
songandsilence72I need to run update-update grub in a chroot'd system, and /boot is mounted under a different partiton. What do I need to do?23:29
BacktrackhelpThat archive is white23:29
jagginessbtw, whoever was talking about updating grub, the correct command (grub2) is, update-grub223:29
jribpw-toxic: you mean 10.04?  You upgraded from 10.04 to what version?23:29
SteveoOkay, so I googled on how to mount a harddrive from a livecd but 2 pages into the search results I can't find the command strings to use.   Does anyone know or should I go somewhere else for help?23:29
joltikRight now I just turned on the computer and with the dvd in it and it started this23:29
jrib!mount | Steveo23:30
ubottuSteveo: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount23:30
songandsilence72/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).23:30
OerHekssongandsilence72, maybe this is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot23:30
pw-toxicjrib, from 10.4 to 10.10 (worked) and then to 11.4 (i guess)23:30
jribSteveo: you can also just click on the device in nautilus...23:30
songandsilence72thx, oerheks23:30
pw-toxicjrib, i can see the login screen... how can i detect my desktop manager from the logi screen?23:30
Steveojrib, I don't have nautilus, I'm on XUbuntu 9.1023:30
SteveoI don't see my hard drive listed there23:30
joltikhow do I use ubiquity?23:30
jagginesspw-toxic, the gear icon lets you change it23:30
jribpw-toxic: 11.04, ok.  In that version I think the default desktop manager was still gdm.  So you can do « sudo service gdm restert » if you want to restart X23:30
sirriffsalotHey! Someone told me that Gnome runs multiple processes incase one crashes... is this true or did I misunderstand something? How is Gnome different from XFCE in terms of what goes on in the background?23:30
musixuser_necesito ayuda con JACK Control!23:31
xanguaSteveo: then please upgrade to a supported version23:31
jribSteveo: the gui may provide some similar feature, but ubottu gave you information on using mount23:31
jrib!es | musixuser_23:31
ubottumusixuser_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:31
jagginesspw-toxic, you'd like gnome-classic?23:31
jribSteveo: and yes, 9.10 is very old and no longer supported, you should upgrade to at least 10.0423:31
musixuser_ok!! I need help with Jack Control!! That's better? ::)23:31
joltikWhat do I do to skip the live cd and go to ubuiquity?23:32
pw-toxicjagginess, i just started gnome-classic and it worked. i will upgrade to 11.10 now from ubuntu classic and then to 12.4 LTS23:32
jribmusixuser_: not much.  Ask your real question please23:32
trismHemebond: gnome shell in 12.04 uses gsettings for keybindings, but unity still uses gconf, so you can't set them with gnome-control-center yet, see bug 965921 (you can use dconf-editor to set them manually though)23:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 965921 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell most keyboard shortcuts not working" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96592123:32
Steveojrib, xangua,  I'm using Xubuntu 9.10 because it is a livecd I had in a desk drawer and my installed system Ubuntu 12.04 isn't working.  I can't upgrade, the livecd is all I have23:32
Hemebondtrism: I tried dconf-editor but it won't let me add new shortcuts.23:33
jribSteveo: that's fine.  Be aware it's no longer supported, so it's not a version you want to install and stick with at this point in time23:33
Hemebondtrism: Only edit existing,.23:33
Steveojrib,  I don't plan to install it.  I want to use it to copy my files off of my hard drive so I can do a clean install of something modern, but I can find how how mount the hard drive on google, that is why I am here.23:34
jribSteveo: ubottu sent you the mount instructions earlier, have  you read them?23:34
bbuilt1When I install Oracle JDK and updat alternatives to select it as a default, the man page of java (and javac) is missing. But with the openjdk, the man page is there. Anybody help me, please.23:35
Steveojrib, I didn't see it.   I also tried fdisk -l and could not see any drives listed23:35
LinuxMonkeySteveo: does blkid give you any drives listed23:36
teratomawhere are the nautilus preferences in precise?23:36
jrib!mount > Steveo23:36
ubottuSteveo, please see my private message23:36
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xanguateratoma: edit-preferences23:36
spiritechwell it looks like i spoke to soon. i have found both config files for compiz in /usr/share23:36
mariockiSteveo: dont forget fdisk and blkid need to be run as root so you need to sudo fdisk -l etc23:36
Steveookay, I am reading23:39
musixuser__I'm back..23:39
musixuser__I'm new with Linux, so I have no ideaa at all... This is my first problem:23:39
teratomaxangua: where is that?23:39
musixuser__Anybody reading me?23:39
loculinuxhola23:39
bbuilt1I asked.23:39
xanguateratoma: on the menu23:39
musixuser__hola loculinux hablas español?23:39
xangua!es | musixuser_ loculinux23:40
ubottumusixuser_ loculinux: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:40
loculinuxsi23:40
LinuxMonkeySteveo: to know if your hard disk was detected and know the logical name you can try: sudo lshw -C disk23:40
spiritechwell it looks like the right files though i cant be sure.23:40
musixuser__y sabés algo de linx o estaás acá porque teneś problemas? jajaja23:40
teratomai am not so good with this unity thing yet.  i click on the side bar... which menu?23:40
musixuser__HELP!!23:40
teratomai see 'All Settings'23:40
spiritechdoes anyone know the best way to save the compiz settings so that they can be reloaded after a re-install??23:41
AxD09spiritech: the files in /usr/share are probably just the defaults23:41
teratomaxangua: you mean unity in precise, right ?23:42
xanguateratoma: open nautilus and go to edit-preferences menu23:42
spiritechthere were two files. normal and extra profiles. though i think you are prob right that they are the defaults.23:42
musixuser__I have problems with Jack Control!.. Could anyone help me pleaseeee23:42
mariockispiritech: should be in a folder in ~/.config/23:42
H3HlpWats the channel os backtrack23:43
AxD09This site is from 2008, so i have no idea how accurate it is, but it mentions compiz config locations. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-remove-compiz-fusion-including-config-files.html23:43
H3Hlpof23:43
spiritechi have checked the files there and they are not right.23:43
H3HlpWhere is the backtrack channel23:43
H3HlpShit, where is the backtrack channel?23:43
IdleOne!language | H3Hlp23:44
ubottuH3Hlp: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.23:44
IdleOne!backtrack | H3Hlp23:44
ubottuH3Hlp: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition23:44
kingofswordshello23:44
H3HlpSorry bro23:44
kingofswordsy is ubuntu such a piece of junk?23:44
musixuser__I think I hate Linux! jajaja23:44
melchi_hi23:44
bbuilt1Can anyone see my question?23:44
musixuser__HELP MEEEE!!!23:44
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kingofswordsnothing it seems is fixable23:45
xanguaAxD09: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html a lot recent23:45
kantinitomy smuxi has exploded :(23:45
AxD09I assumes that want for me23:45
AxD09wasn't*23:46
mariockispiritech: see this, it's a bit old but it may work. http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-compiz-config-on-ubuntu.html23:46
spiritechi have a config file in ~/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig   it only has two lines23:46
spiritech[gnome session]23:46
spiritechprofile=23:46
musixuser__help! I need somebody!! HelP! Not just anybody! Help!! You know I need someone!! Help! When I was younger I used Windos 7, the I decided to change to Linux but now I wanna die!23:47
spiritechok will have a look at the link.23:47
`prixonI'm doing a survey before I partition my drive. how much space does ubuntu filesystem need, and how much does the home folder need?23:47
IdleOne!polls | `prixon23:47
ubottu`prixon: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.23:47
IdleOne`prixon: to answer your question 15GB for / is plenty /home is up to you23:47
camaciociao23:48
camacio!list23:48
ubottucamacio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».23:48
MusixHELP!23:48
chuIdleOne: :(23:49
joltikhow do I get to ubiquity from the screen that says boot:23:49
`prixonif I use home just for apps and not as a media/data drive. how much will be sufficient?23:49
OerHeks`prixon, for /root at least 4 gb, /swap and /home as you please23:49
Logan_!ask | Musix23:49
ubottuMusix: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:49
loculinuxok23:49
`prixonwhen you say 15GB for /, does that include the swap, or swap is 2*RAM in addition?23:49
bbuilt1hello23:49
IdleOne`prixon: I have no way in the universe at guessing what apps you will be installing, that said you need a minimum of 1GB for /home all the way up to 1000TB23:50
joltiknow I'm in a terminal looking screen23:50
MusixLogan_ Hi!23:50
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Logan_Hi Musix.23:50
ResistanceIdleOne:  under what circumstances would anyone need a 1kTB drive?23:50
spiritechmarlocki thank you thats what i needed. i didnt realize that compiz had its own back up facility.23:50
MusixI'm new with Linux, and I'm trying Misux 2.0 cd live23:50
IdleOneResistance: I wanted to make sure to cover all the bases23:50
ResistanceIdleOne:  :P23:51
Resistancestill;23:51
MusixI have problems with Jack control23:51
bbuilt1Resistance: Can you see me?23:51
joltikdoes anyone know?23:51
IdleOneMusix: this is #ubuntu, see if there is a #musix23:51
Resistancebbuilt1:  yes, but #test is used for testing things, including whether people can see you23:51
Musixwhen I try to start it, appears this:23:51
bob___hello23:51
Resistancebbuilt1:  or #ubuntu-offtopic23:51
paul_hi all does anyone know how to install a brother network printer23:51
MusixCould not open alsa sequencer as a client23:51
bbuilt1#test23:52
Musixthere's not Musix  chat23:52
Resistancebbuilt1:  /join #test23:52
Resistanceits a channel ;P23:52
joltikhow do I do a strait to install?23:52
Resistancebut we see you, bbuilt123:52
bob___am updating from 11.10 to 12.04 lts using iso file but the selection to replace 11.10 with 12.04 will not allow selection - any help?23:52
Musix23:51:40.062 Patchbay deactivated.23:52
Musix23:51:40.067 Statistics reset.23:52
Musix23:51:40.069 Could not open ALSA sequencer as a client. ALSA MIDI patchbay will be not available.23:52
MusixALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No exist23:52
FloodBot1Musix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:52
Musixsorry23:52
xanguabob___: are you using the Alternate iso¿23:53
bob___no23:53
Musixwell.. thats my problem..23:53
xanguaMusix this is strictly ubuntu support23:53
spiritechpaul there are some brother drivers in the repository. maybe try one of those.23:53
`prixonwhen partitioning the drive. is there a way to avoid those small leftovers of the drive of 5mb 20mb and so?23:53
IdleOnepaul_: the brother website also offers linux drivers and instructions.23:53
joltikhow do I install this damn thing23:53
joltikI can't figure anything out23:54
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joltikI put in the cd23:54
joltikdvd*23:54
joltikand it keeps getting to a certain point23:54
OerHeks`prixon, those left-overs are no leftovers, but cache-memory of the drive23:54
joltikand it doesn't do anything23:54
bob___how does one reply to a query from someone on this chat23:54
bastidrazorbob___: /msg person message here23:55
OerHeks`prixon, also a good way to check the cache of a drive23:55
bob___thank you23:55
joltikI'm going to leave xp on this computer if I can't do this23:55
gravity_Gravity23:55
paul_ spirit ok let me see I have 9320cw23:56
`prixonhow come sometimes there are "leftovers" and sometimes there aren't?23:56
joltikwell, I guess I'll just stay with XP23:56
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joltikubuntu sounds over rated anyway23:56
OerHeks`prixon, intelligent programs don't show cache as available hdd space.23:57
todd_I am writeing a bash script and $1 is a file name, but its is not escapeing spaces when I use $1 how do I get it to reescape the spaces?23:57
paul_idle it was working but spitting out paper ever 15 minute so I followed there website adn then i couldnt even get the computer to reconize it23:57
jribtodd_: #bash for that23:57
IdleOne`prixon: This channel is for Ubuntu specific support. Please stick to the topic.23:57
todd_#bash23:57
todd_???23:57
spiritechare there any plans to have a gnome based release of ubuntu?23:58
`prixonGparted = unintelligent?23:58
paul_let me try again thanks guys I figure that you guys might know of some problems23:58
`prixonoh23:58
joltikhow do install ubuntu without loading the live ubuntu enviornment?23:58
IdleOne!alternate | joltik23:58
ubottujoltik: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal23:58
xanguaspiritech: ubuntu uses gnome23:58
`prixonif I intend on creating a / filesystem partition and a home partition, do they both exist in an extended partition?23:59
joltikthank you23:59
joltikfinally answers23:59
spiritechi mean as its primary desktop.23:59
L3topIt was the first question you asked joltik.23:59

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