[00:00] <pikkachu> hi, my Windows entry disappeared from the grub menu, so I can't boot it anymore. How to recover it?
[00:00] <spiderworm> aha thank you Jordan_U!
[00:00] <MirkoKa> pikkachu: sudo update-grub
[00:00] <javahelp> pikkachu, edit grub.conf and put it back :)
[00:00] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[00:00] <Jordan_U> spiderworm: You're welcome.
[00:00] <pikkachu> MirkoKa: didn't work
[00:00] <pikkachu> javahelp: it's not to be edited
[00:00] <argief> Krenair, /var/log/messages
[00:01] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: nothing
[00:01] <javahelp> pikkachu: I've done it before. I use it to boot different OS systems and different kernels
[00:01] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: Can you mount your XP partition successfully?
[00:01] <Krenair> argief, seems to be empty
[00:01] <pikkachu> javahelp: but it's not to be edited, it's said in the top of the file
[00:01] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: will try
[00:01] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | javahelp
[00:02] <javahelp> pikkachu: not to be edited (by those who don't know what they're doing). :)\
[00:03] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: worked... I think this happened because I uninstalled the old kernel version after a upgrade but before the reboot, I believe this confused the system...
[00:03] <MirkoKa> `prixon: depends of course, I would say 1GB min for just the preferences but don't make it too small, few GBs just to be sure. for / it depends how much progrrams you're going to use, 10-20 GB I'd say (plus stuff like databases, webproject, etc if you have that)
[00:03] <pikkachu> javahelp: like me
[00:03] <pikkachu> javahelp: besides the parenthesis are yours
[00:03] <Jordan_U> javahelp: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is overwritten every time there is a kernel upgrade. Editint it directly will therefore not be particularly effective. Custom menu entries can be added to /boot/grub/custom.cfg.
[00:03] <argief> Krenair, how about syslog?
[00:04] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: by worked I mean mounting, but os-probe outputs nothing
[00:04] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | pikkachu
[00:05] <`prixon> and for the virtual-machine I need space in the home partition or the filesystem? I'm talking about the .vdi files
[00:05] <MirkoKa> `prixon: the VM can be placed where ever  you want
[00:05] <javahelp> Jordan_U: if there is an upgrade, it only adds it to the grub file. Therefore, you're old edits will be there. If you don't want a new addition to the grub after upgrade, just delete it :)
[00:05] <Random832> `prixon: you can put it wherever
[00:06] <Jordan_U> javahelp: You are completely wrong. Please read up on how grub2 differs from grub legacy.
[00:06] <`prixon> oh, so also in a media partition that will be an ntfs one?
[00:08] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: http://pastie.org/pastes/3866216/text
[00:09] <MirkoKa> `prixon: yes, but note this: the VM can become extremely slow if the .vdi is on an "internaly fragmented" NTFS volume. It doesn't  happen often in my eperiences but it happens. I too have my VMs (VBox) on an NTFS drive.
[00:09] <javahelp> Jordan_U: You're right! Sorry, I still have GRUB :[
[00:11] <javahelp> now back to my question: how do i get these infernal embedded java clients to work in firefox >.<
[00:12] <era878> whats the best way to setup a RAM disk
[00:12] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: That shows that there are no boot files on the XP partition, (but the fact that it says " Boot files:        sudo bash ~/Downloads/boot_info_script*.sh" for the Windows7 partition means that theres clearly a bug in the script somewhere).
[00:13] <MirkoKa> era878: sudo mount -t tmpfs none /path/to/mountpoint
[00:13] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: it's not Windows XP
[00:14] <Guest16634> how do I install the nvidia-legacy driver?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: Well your Windows 7 install is clearly missing a System partition.
[00:15] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: I'm installing kernel 3.0.0-17 again and check if it works
[00:15] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: I have no idea what you mean
[00:16] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: Windows 7 installations by default use *2* partitions, one for the bootloder files called the "System" partition, and one for everything else. You appear to have only one partition.
[00:16] <MirkoKa> Guest16634: on 12.04  "nvidia-96" is the package for the old driver
[00:17] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: please ignore sdb*
[00:17] <javahelp> pikkachu: Why not just use a VM for XP?
[00:17] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: I don't remember it asking or trying to create more than one partition, but it's one and it works
[00:17] <`prixon> MirkoKa, if it gets slower, we can defragment the partition :) although that requires windows, cause I haven't found a defragment application for ubuntu
[00:17] <pikkachu> javahelp: please ignore me
[00:18] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: what does os-prober should output?
[00:18] <javahelp> pikkachu: you are very rude to those trying to help you!
[00:18] <MirkoKa> `prixon: well, yes, no, as I said "internaly fragmented". that is the $BITMAP and MFT datastructures. the built-in defragmenter doesn't handle these
[00:18] <pikkachu> javahelp: that's just your interpretation
[00:19] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: Something like "/dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain"
[00:20] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: I don't know why os-prober isn't finding your Windows 7 System partition, because it does appear to have the correct files, so let me walk you through adding a custom menu entry for it.
[00:20] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: I see, do you have any idea why it doesn't find anything? Can you figure out how early removing of old kernel would lead to this exactly?
[00:20] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: ah ok
[00:20] <`prixon> what would be a good filesystem format for a media partition to which I download files and store music? If I use ntfs it gets very fragmented I guess..
[00:21] <OerHeks> pikkachu, maybe it is related to reiserFS, sda2
[00:21] <Jordan_U> `prixon: For use with linux only, ext4.
[00:21] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: there's no separate 'System' partition, you can be sure, it's all in one single partition
[00:21] <drvanon> After i had some trouble with the only user being out of the sudo group i now can't (smb)share files any more because i have no acces to /var/lib/samba/usershares, how can i get that acces back?
[00:21] <pikkachu> OerHeks: I have no idea what you mean
[00:22] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: will reboot now to check if old kernel fixes stuff, brb
[00:22] <`prixon> there's nothing that works both for linux and windows except ntfs/fat32?
[00:22] <MirkoKa> `prixon: please don't get confused now :) NTFS if perfectly fine for a shared partition. it's just that in *rare* cases virtual machines can become slow if they are stored on NTFS
[00:22] <javahelp> `prixon: FAT for files under 4 gb :] (this is a joke)\
[00:23] <`prixon> thanks MirkoKa :)
[00:23] <`prixon> but I'm still afraid of fragmentation because of all the download and deleting of files. or that's nonsense?
[00:25] <OerHeks> `prixon, Ext2Read is a windows utility to read ext2/ext3/ext4, writing is not recommended
[00:26] <ubuntu> hello
[00:26] <MirkoKa> `prixon: I have my music, videos, pictures, ebooks and VMs on NTFS volumes, except from the mentioned *RARE* problem with VMs (which I probably shouldn't have mentionen) I don't have any problem.
[00:27] <ubuntu> any body here
[00:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: No.
[00:27] <era878> is there a way to limit ramfs from growing too big (not using tmpfs)
[00:27] <ubuntu> Hello Jordan
[00:27] <drvanon> hello ubuntu
[00:27] <`prixon> hehe
[00:27] <ubuntu> drvanon hi
[00:27] <`prixon> it's good that you mentioned it, because that's a problem I was worried about and forgot to ask
[00:27] <drvanon> ubuntu can you help? me?
[00:27] <d8bhatta> Hi,  -bash: locate: command not found , how can make work locate?
[00:28] <ubuntu> ye asure
[00:28] <MirkoKa> era878: sudo mount -t tmpfs -o size=200M none /path/to/mountpoint will create a 200 MB ram disk
[00:28] <drvanon> After i had some trouble with the only user being out of the sudo group i now can't (smb)share files any more because i have no acces to /var/lib/samba/usershares, how can i get that acces back?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Hi. You should change your nick to something less confusing, you can do that by typing "/nick new_nick_here" (without the quotes).
[00:28] <ubuntu> ok sorry
[00:28] <BlueProtoman> If I upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04, will I have to reinstall all of my software?
[00:28] <ubuntu> letme change it
[00:28] <ubuntu> giveme sec
[00:28] <`prixon> cause I wanted to create a media partition and was afraid it would get awfully fragmented
[00:28] <d8bhatta> i,  -bash: locate: command not found , how can make work locate?
[00:28] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, usually not.
[00:29] <era878> MirkoKa: but tmpfs is does not grow dynamically and it can use the swap
[00:29] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: Will I lose any of my files?  And what would I have to reconfigure?
[00:29] <d8bhatta> -bash: locate: command not found , how can make work locate?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | BlueProtoman
[00:29] <d8bhatta> anybody pls suggest me!
[00:29] <Jordan_U> !patience | d8bhatta
[00:30] <matse> i wonder if it's possible to let midnight commander show file sizes in "human readable" format (MB, GB) and not kb?
[00:30] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, allways backup important data, further no explicit reconfigurations needed, AFAIK
[00:30] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: it seems it won't work reinstalling the old kernel
[00:30] <irule> "device eth0 entered promiscuous mode ; device eth0 left promiscuous mode" and eth does not work, after upgrade, it used to work great before, how may I fix this?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: Run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/custom.cfg" and copy/paste this into it http://paste.ubuntu.com/970418/plain/ then reboot to test it.
[00:30] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: Noted.  OK, I'm going to upgrade now.
[00:30] <pikkachu> does anyone know how to make os-prober find my windows 7 partition again?
[00:31] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: it asks me to login into LP
[00:31] <IdleOne> pikkachu: sudo os-prober | sudo update-grub
[00:31] <d8bhatta> Jordan_U:bottu: the chat is moving so fast that my text hiding and thought that it will be out of sight from you guys...so just repeating the text!
[00:32] <MirkoKa> era878: it does grow dynamically (it only uses what's needed) and yes, it can be swapped out. is that a problem your your situation (which is what?)
[00:32] <IdleOne> pikkachu: sudo os-prober & sudo update-grub
[00:32] <argief> d8bhatta, i think it is part of mlocate packadge.  try sudo apt-get install mlocate
[00:32] <pikkachu> IdleOne: that's what I'm asking, how to make that command work
[00:33] <IdleOne> pikkachu: run the command
[00:33] <IdleOne> it works
[00:33] <Cjaster> Hello all
[00:33] <pikkachu> IdleOne: and it's not '&'
[00:33] <Cjaster> Just joined
[00:33] <era878> MirkoKa: I am running a server off the ramdisk and do not want it to be swapped out because it could cause a major speed reduction
[00:33] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: The problem is that os-prober is not detecting the Windows partition for some reason (and running os-prober on its own does nothing but display the OSs that it finds, grub-mkconfig runs os-prober itself and parses the output so running os-prober before update-grub is not needed).
[00:33] <pikkachu> IdleOne: it works for you? not me? what makes you think I didn't run? sorry, just ignore me
[00:34] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: I can't read your paste
[00:34] <d8bhatta> argief:  finally it says ,locate: can not stat () `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory
[00:34] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970418/
[00:34] <cincinnatus> Precise Pangolin seems to be very glitchy when installing grub on a raid array (on a dell XPS desktop)
[00:34] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I'll go back to be quiet :)
[00:34] <Ali_nz> hey all
[00:34] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: what's the long hexa?
[00:35] <Ali_nz> If I have a directory /home/al/cameras and I have a spare disk /dev/sdb how do I mount that disk and make anything writeen to /home/al/cameras actually get stored on /dev/sdb ?
[00:35] <argief> d8bhatta, try: updatedb
[00:36] <MirkoKa> Ali_nz: /dev/sdb would be the whole media, you need to create a partition first
[00:36] <Ali_nz> MirkoKa: ok. format the disk?
[00:36] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: The filesystem UUID (Universally Unique IDentifier) of your Windows partition.
[00:36] <argief> d8bhatta, you gonna need a sudo before that :-)
[00:36] <MirkoKa> Ali_nz:  use the Disk Utility
[00:36] <KM0201> Ali_nz: it might be easier to create a folder on sdb, and hot link it in your home folder... (i'm assuming these are big images)
[00:37] <d8bhatta> argief: yes I put that
[00:37] <Ali_nz> KM0201: 200k or so each i guess
[00:37] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: hmm you already checked it right? ok will reboot and check...
[00:37] <Ali_nz> it says fdisk /dev/sdb is GPT
[00:37] <d8bhatta> it works..thanks argief:
[00:38] <argief> d8bhatta, locate creates a db of all ur files once a day.  It's runs as a cron job in the background, so u wont even know it.  but for the first time u need to run it ur self, or wait a day for the cron job. :-)
[00:38] <Ali_nz> KM0201: whats hotlink?
[00:38] <KM0201> link/hotlink.. maybe i used the wrong word
[00:38] <KM0201> but.. short cut it.
[00:40] <Ali_nz> KM0201: how do I check the disk is formatted?
[00:40] <Jordan_U> Ali_nz: sudo parted -l
[00:40] <KM0201> Ali_nz: fdisk or gparted
[00:40] <Squall5668> Hey guys, quick question. If i restart a server using the reset button, it will wait in the grub menu until i press enter. Is there a way to stop that? so that no matter what happens, it will still boot with the first option
[00:40] <Ali_nz> ext4 - ok so its partitioned
[00:41] <Ali_nz> now how would I mount it at boot and link it to /home/al/cameras?
[00:42] <itaylor57> KM0201, there are not shorcuts in this room lol
[00:42] <argief> Squall5668, you need a "default" option set in grub.conf
[00:42] <Squall5668> hm, ill read about that
[00:42] <argief> Squall5668, and a timeout
[00:42] <BlueProtoman> Is Precise Pangolin worth upgrading to from Ubuntu 11.04?
[00:43] <Squall5668> i probably have a both though... it does boot automaticly if i reboot it correctly. It's just the reset button that gets it stuck at grub :P
[00:43] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol
[00:44] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: it worked, windows booted up successfully (although grub hanged on a bit with the wine color background before windows started to boot up)
[00:44] <Ali_nz> KM0201: ok - mounted it
[00:44] <Ali_nz> now i need to link it
[00:44] <Ali_nz> how link?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: Great.
[00:45] <audr> o hai
[00:45] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: what solution do you propose? Do you think upgrading to precise may have os-prober working properly?
[00:45] <KM0201> Ali_nz: if its mounted, just create a folder on the new partition, then right click it and choose "make link".. and then put the linked folder inside your home folder.
[00:46] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?  11.04 to 12.04 worth it?
[00:46] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: I mean, it's not the ideal solution but it works fine. Do you think I'm better off keeping it this way till I upgrade to Precise?
[00:46] <Ali_nz> KM0201: im in terminak
[00:46] <argief> Squall5668,  sounds like it forces u to select an option because it was not cleanly unmounted.  Maybe a stupid question, but if u are there to press the reset button, why cant you stay 5sec and press enter?
[00:46] <Ali_nz> KM0201: cli
[00:46] <KM0201> Ali_nz: not sure how to do it w/ command line
[00:46] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: it's really odd what happened...
[00:46] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: Yes, I would keep it as for now and file a bug report.
[00:46] <KM0201> Ali_nz: i'm sure google will turn it up
[00:47] <pikkachu> Jordan_U: ok then... thank you very much for you valuable help!
[00:47] <Squall5668> argief, hmm... i set up the server at a friends home in swiss and told him to press the reset button... it wasn't fun making him connect a monitor to check what happend :)
[00:47] <Jordan_U> pikkachu: You're welcome :)
[00:47] <era878> How do you fix "This driver is activated but not currently in use"
[00:48] <Squall5668> argief, is there a way around that?
[00:48] <argief> Squall5668,  so u r running a headless server?  Ubuntu?
[00:48] <mongo> if I have an upstart job that needs to have the lo interface up but should be started before failsafe as it provides network interfaces what should I do a starts on?
[00:48] <filo1234> Squall5668: is it normally
[00:48] <Squall5668> argief correct
[00:48] <avis> why does port 708 leak packets with closed GUFW on openvpn ?  udp
[00:48] <MerlynKorr> if i roll back to a previous version of linux ubuntu will it keep all my data?
[00:49] <mongo> I'm guessing local-filesystems and started dbus?
[00:49] <Squall5668> filo1234, i didn't quite get that
[00:49] <neo____> network interface post-up is notworking , i'm trying to execute script that overwrites resolv.conf
[00:49] <filo1234> Squall5668: you have to modify /etc/grub.d/00_header
[00:49] <itaylor57> MerlynKorr, there is not roll back
[00:50] <filo1234> Squall5668: check statment recordfile at the and of that file
[00:50] <MerlynKorr> is there anyone else here that can assist with the issue?
[00:51] <mongo> neo____: you are probably fighting the resolver
[00:51] <MerlynKorr> because there was a menu that was there on shift hold on the bios screen.
[00:51] <neo____> mongo, if I ran the script manually it works
[00:51] <mongo> neo____: what are you trying to set in resolv.conf, you can do must in network-manager or in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:51] <filo1234> Squall5668: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:52] <MerlynKorr> sorry itaylor57
[00:52] <Squall5668> filo1234 thanks, ill check it out
[00:52] <neo____> mongo, post-up is written in /etc/network/interfaces under iface
[00:52] <mongo> neo____: any changes you make to /etc/resolv.conf will be overwritten, you should use the daemon to make changes
[00:52] <mongo> neo____: add in dns-* statements in interface
[00:52] <mongo> I assume you are just trying to set some name servers et?
[00:53] <neo____> mongo, dns-* doesn't work too,  which daemon I should use?
[00:53] <Ali_nz> meh I go to create symbolic link and it says file exists
[00:53] <MerlynKorr> will a rollback keep all the data i have on 12.04?
[00:53] <mongo> neo____: what are you trying to set?
[00:53] <Ali_nz>   "sudo ln -s /home/mobotix/cameras /mnt/disk2"
[00:54] <mongo> neo____: can you paste your interaces on paste.bin?
[00:54] <neo____> mongo, just echo "namserver ip" > /etc/network/interfaces
[00:55] <mongo> neo____: dns-nameservers 172.22.53.12 works great for me
[00:56] <MerlynKorr> ok, thanks all for the help.
[00:57] <mongo> neo____: is this a dhcp interface?
[00:57] <`prixon> can anyone explain in a basic way what's the difference between debian and ubuntu?
[00:57] <Squall5668> filo1234, looks like that's it! a bit scared to check since my friend is asleep but can't see why it wouldn't work. Thank you
[00:58] <EvilResistance> `prixon:  age of the repositories, how up to date the programs are, etc.
[00:59] <EvilResistance> `prixon:  Ubuntu 12.04 contains newer packages than Debian 6 (aka Debian Stable) has
[00:59] <EvilResistance> `prixon:  sometimes that sacrifices some stability for more up-to-date programs and functionality, but...
[00:59] <OerHeks> `prixton, the support
[00:59] <EvilResistance> that too
[00:59] <`prixon> does ubuntu or debian do things differently from one another?
[01:00] <EvilResistance> `prixon:  in what sense?
[01:00] <mongo> ubuntu is based on debian unstable, the goals are diffrent, ubuntu is mostly about the ultimate user experiance, debian is more about open software, ubuntu is based on debian
[01:00] <mongo> in a nut shell
[01:02] <`prixon> I just saw two clips on youtube, both comparing file transfer speed, ubuntu vs windows7, and debian vs windows7. and it turns out ubuntu is slower than windows which is slower than debian. and I wondered what could be the source for this
[01:04] <Fyodorovna> `prixon, I would say with 100's of distro's running linux that is is a bit hard to really lock that down, at least that is my opinion.
[01:06] <spaceneedle> Just installed Ubuntu on my desktop and 3d unity doesn't work . Using Nvidia Geforce 6150se graphics.  Anybody else have problems with Nvidia?
[01:06] <Fyodorovna> spacebug-, have you updated completely and looked in additional drivers?
[01:07] <spaceneedle> yes.
[01:08] <`prixon> I tried asking a question earlier in the linux channel, and couldn't get a straight answer. I read some websites' benchmarks comparing windows and linux in many different aspects, and in most cases, windows uses the same hardware better than linux. and I wonder how come? if usually people say that linux does things better
[01:08] <extor> Is there any way besides dante(and squid which I imagine is very hard to config) that will enable me to run a socks server in a VPS with say 10 IP addresses?
[01:09] <bazhang> `prixon, this is not the channel for such comparisons
[01:09] <bazhang> `prixon, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:10] <`prixon> cool
[01:10] <fishcooker> how to mount manually ecryptfs
[01:10] <gry> extor, there is #squid if you need help with this one; it seems bit popular to me.
[01:10] <fishcooker> i've no luck with it
[01:10] <fishcooker> it happen after i encrypt my home folder
[01:10] <escott> fishcooker, there should be instructions in your $HOME
[01:11] <extor> gry squid works well with http
[01:14] <Trian3> stefg: Are you still here?
[01:17] <martii> :)
[01:19] <adison> window create
[01:19] <xtu> hi, i want to know the relationship between xorg , gdm and gnome
[01:19] <martii> xtu: ??
[01:19] <Trian3> I'm having trouble with creating a bootable USB drive.  I'm following some instructions as found on http://www.backtrack-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Persistent_USB but have now reached a stopping point.  Specifically, the instructions state "as we are using files from isolinux with syslinux they will be named incorrectly and be in the wrong locations."  This is followed by some instruction on how to fix this.  However, the source files t
[01:19] <Trian3> hey refer to don't exist, so I'm unclear how to proceed at this point.
[01:19] <FloodBot1> Trian3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <Krenair> argief_, hi
[01:20] <Trian3> Didn't mean to flood
[01:20] <xtu> martii: well, i want to install a custumrized desktop env on ubuntu server?
[01:20] <Krenair> argief_, I found some messages in syslog from around the time I last had that issue: http://pastebin.com/gn6mYmM4
[01:21] <martii> xtu: xorg is standalone graphical interface - gdm is login manager and gnome is window manager
[01:21] <martii> xtu: the only thing you need is xorg
[01:21] <Floyd42> hello
[01:21] <escott> xtu, xorg does the drawing on the screen but doesn't have widgets (buttons and the like), gnome is a large project that uses gtk to draw the widgets and makes a full desktop environment, and gdm is the graphic login tool built from gtk and used by the gnome environment (although you can use other display managers as they are called)
[01:22] <martii> Trian3: search for lili on the web - this will do everthing for you
[01:22] <xtu> martii, so if i install theses three things in my os, then i will get a desktop env?
[01:22] <chris_0076> Hello all, so today I tried to update from 11.04 to 11.10 using the update manage. The upgrade went just fine until the reboot (it got stuck on the ubuntu screen for about an hr then I gave up). I proceeded to reboot many times and still nothing. So, as a fix I decided to download an burn a copy of 11.10 (md5 was ok and burn was good) and I ran it and it gave ubi-part error 141 and then locked up(crashed) so I restarted. I then tri
[01:22] <chris_0076> ed again and it would not let me upgrade, it just gave the option of overwriting my win 7 install so I quit. Then I decided that it must be 11.10 so I downloaded and burned 12.04 (again good burn and good md5) and I did a normal install on a separate partition. So, now I am here, is there a way that I can merge the settings from my other partition (that does not "work") to this one that does. (my data partition is separate)
[01:22] <chris_0076> oh wow... I wrote a book >.>
[01:23] <martii> xtu: latest ubuntu used lightdm instead of gdm
[01:23] <chris_0076> TL;DR: I have 2 partitions, 1 with 12.04 and one with a broke 11.04-ish, is there a way to merge them?
[01:23] <martii> xtu: but yes - you should be able to
[01:23] <escott> xtu, you can just install ubuntu-desktop and it will pull in what you need
[01:24] <Trian3> martii: This is for setting up a bootable USB drive for backtrack.  Will lili still work for that?
[01:24] <xtu> escott, yes, install ubuntu-desktop always works, but it is too large.
[01:24] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, not really a full merge but you can save stuff, and pull ppa's and other stuff.
[01:24] <martii> Trian3: should do
[01:24] <escott> xtu, ubuntu-desktop is not that much larger than the gnome desktop would be. if you want something lighter you can try lubuntu
[01:24] <xangua> Trian3: martii for backtrack support /join #backtrack-linux
[01:25] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, is your definition of merge is space then you can resize the partitions.
[01:25] <chris_0076> or, I guess since I have so little vested in the 12.04 install, is it possible to recover the other?
[01:25] <martii> xangua: good point :)
[01:25] <escott> chris_0076, just copy your home directory
[01:25] <Trian3> xangua: I wasn't aware of the channel.  I'll check that out now.  Thank you, both!
[01:25] <xtu> oh, escott , if i install ubuntu-desktop, it will install many apps for me like liboffice, but i don't need this apps, ?
[01:25] <chris_0076> all my data is on a seperate partition
[01:25] <xtu> how can i disable this .
[01:26] <martii> xtu: you can't - ubuntu-desktop is metapackage and will install everythin
[01:26] <martii> xtu: you can just remove later all the stuff you don't like
[01:26] <xtu> oh, understand that.
[01:26] <escott> xtu, well you could just install gnome-shell or unity and it should take care of most of the dependencies.
[01:26] <chris_0076> So, I guess I will head in a separate direction now, how can I recover the, erm, boot-ability of the other partition?
[01:27] <xtu> yes, when i install gnome-shell, it is smaller.
[01:27] <escott> chris_0076, you just do grub-install and specify the proper /boot partition
[01:27] <escott> !grub | chris_0076
[01:28] <extor> Generaly speaking, which package in ubuntu 12 will fix the following error: "Failed to open "libc.so": libc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:28] <chris_0076> escott, but how can I boot to it now that I have 12.04?
[01:28] <escott> !info libreoffice | xtu its optional, does it actually get pulled in with ubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <extor> Evidently my .deb did not have the prerequisites
[01:30] <dankev> hi there. anyone feel like helping a poor, stranded soul?
[01:30] <escott> chris_0076, its also likely that those other ubuntu systems are listed in the boot menu
[01:30] <xtu> escott, what do you mean?
[01:30] <chris_0076> escott, ok, I'll reboot here in just a few mins and look.
[01:30] <chris_0076> Thanks ^^
[01:31] <xtu> ls
[01:33] <dankev> on a laptop with win7 installed, i made a new partition and installed Mint (lmde). it was running too hot, so i tried installing ubunto on that same partition, over lmde. now when i get to grub, everything looks right (that is, my options are ubuntu, win7, etc) but anything i pick gives me "error: no such partition"
[01:33] <xtu> oh, dose anyone know why kvm dosen't support sound?
[01:33] <martii> dankev: too little info to help you
[01:34] <dankev> martii, please tell me what you need. i'm new to linux
[01:35] <VeXii> 2
[01:35] <lelo> ubuntu is logging off at random... is there any way to solve this?
[01:35] <martii> dankev: sudo fdisk -l and grub config
[01:36] <Krenair> argief_, I just realised that I updated some nvidia packages on friday
[01:36] <xtu> lelo, what do you mean?
[01:36] <escott> lelo, its probably an issue with your graphics drivers
[01:36] <dankev> martii: where do i type that?
[01:37] <escott> lelo, are you using proprietary drivers?
[01:37] <martii> dankev: terminal
[01:37] <naryfa> If there's anybody advanced here, or if anybody could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to change animation in gnome-shell's js/ui. Anybody familiar with the code?
[01:37] <VeXii> i got a ec2 setup and my ssh key is working fine whith the ubuntu user. but i need to extend it to my user. (when i connect whith putty i get a error)
[01:37] <dankev> martii: sorry, i can't even get into ubuntu at all. i'm stuck at grub
[01:37] <lelo> escott: yes, nvidia
[01:38] <martii> dankev: so press e on ubuntu entry
[01:38] <escott> lelo, you could try the nouveau drivers it might be more stable
[01:38] <lelo> xtu: I mean that I'm watching videos or flash and it suddenly blacks out and give me the login screen once again
[01:38] <martii> and tell me what is the content
[01:38] <lelo> escott: is there a way to do that with a gui?
[01:38] <escott> lelo, yes just disable the nvidia drivers with jockey
[01:38] <xtu> wow, i am sorry .
[01:39] <lelo> escott: thank you
[01:39] <lelo> xtu: yeah :) ty
[01:40] <xtu> i don't know why kvm don't support sound .
[01:40] <mg_> After upgrading to 12.04 I am suddenly unable to press Shift + left Meta + C at once.. Right meta works, and every button works by itself, just not in a combination with two others.. Any ideas?
[01:40] <dankev> martii: hitting e gives me a bunch of words/gibberish i don't understand. it starts with "setparams 'ubuntu, with linux 3.2.0-23-generic' " then a bunch more lines i don't understand
[01:41] <Carth|> I recently installed Age of Empires 2 from the disc, but when I try to start a game it can't read the disc. I found a no cd crack but don't know how to install it
[01:41] <martii> dankev: thats why I ask you to write it down
[01:41] <dankev> you want all of it?
[01:42] <martii> dankev: yep - if it's too much reinstall ubuntu - make sure you format linux partition and select MBR for grub installation
[01:42] <dankev> martii: i'll write it down. thanks for bearing with me. i appreciate it
[01:43] <martii> dankev: another option is to start livecd and access your linux part from there
[01:43] <dankev> martii: that sounds easy. what do i need to do to the partition from there?
[01:43] <martii> dankev: this might be even better
[01:43] <martii> dankev: start livecd and do fdisk -l
[01:44] <martii> dankev: I'll tell you what to do next
[01:44] <dankev> martii: thanks. i'll load it up
[01:44] <martii> dankev: sudo fdisk -l you must have root access
[01:44] <martii> dankev: and it's -L but lovercase
[01:45] <dankev> martii: thanks for the clarification. i would have put a one
[01:48] <dankev> martii: live cd finally loaded up. starting 'try ubuntu'
[01:48] <martii> dankev: god
[01:49] <martii> dankev: I mean good :)
[01:50] <dankev> martii: i entered sudo fdisk -l
[01:51] <dankev> martii: it gives me a list of my partitions, along with info
[01:52] <Carth|> I downloaded the empires2.exe (no cd crack for Age of Empires 2) but am not sure where to put it to play without the cd. Anyone have any direction for me?
[01:52] <lelo> yeah... changed to nouveau driver and is still logging off :P
[01:53] <xtu> is ubuntu tv free
[01:54] <dr_jesus> yup
[01:55] <Mayazcherquoi> Is there not a single piece of webcam capture software that allows you to specify a microphone?
[01:56] <escott> Mayazcherquoi, thats the responsibility of pulse audio. select your input device from the sound preferences
[01:56] <chris_0076> ok, escott I rebooted, and the other filesystem was not listed
[01:57] <chris_0076> the only options were for this, the recovery, win 7, and the 2 mem test ones
[01:57] <Froodle> Went from 10.10 to 12.04.  Unity shows every program name jumbled over toolbar menu (File, Edit, Help, etc.).  Any fix?
[01:58] <escott> chris_0076, in that case you would have to either setup your own entries for grub or if you wanted to switch to the other as the boot partition you could reinstall grub with /boot as the other partition
[01:59] <chris_0076> escott, how might I do that?
[02:02] <benwalburn> I want to set up a linux distro on a flash drive to use when I repair windows. It needs to fit on a 4gb flsh drive and be able to mount within windows so I can use my programs. How should I do this and what OS would you suggest?
[02:02] <escott> chris_0076, a couple ways, but it amounts to reinstalling grub. so see !grub for instructions
[02:02] <chris_0076> !grub
[02:02] <escott> !grub | chris_0076
[02:02] <bazhang> benwalburn, unetbootin to do it
[02:03] <escott> benwalburn, you cant use the programs from within windows because win32!=unix
[02:04] <bazhang> benwalburn, but that wont allow you to run windows apps within the usb stick
[02:04] <benwalburn> no, I just want it to mount the usb stick when windows is running while also serving as a linux distro i can boot into
[02:05] <bazhang> benwalburn, then virtualbox
[02:05] <benwalburn> I don't want to run linux within windows
[02:06] <bazhang> benwalburn, what you want is not feasible
[02:06] <ghost_> podrian pasarme algun manual de como instalar apache tomcat 7 en ubuntu 11.10
[02:06] <bazhang> ghost_, english here please
[02:06] <escott> benwalburn, the normal usb sticks made by usb-creator have a fat32 underlying filesystem. you can put whatever data files you want on that fat32 partition
[02:07] <benwalburn> escott, so I can boot and transfer files without issue?
[02:07] <ghost_> could spend some manual on how to install apache tomcat 7 on ubuntu 11.10
[02:08] <escott> benwalburn, yes. the usb-creator systems are fat32 with a disk image as a single file. when you boot linux the fat32 is mounted and the disk image is loop mounted, but you should be able to access the underlying fat32 partition. you should check on that
[02:09] <benwalburn> alright, and which distro should I use? I'm hoping for something lighter than ubuntu that is compatable with most hardware. I was thinking puppy...
[02:10] <bazhang> benwalburn, lubuntu
[02:10] <bazhang> !lubuntu > benwalburn
[02:11] <benwalburn> got it, I'll try out lubuntu
[02:11] <benwalburn> thank you
[02:11] <xeno> hi
[02:12] <xeno> trying to load ubuntu server on my old pc but its crashing on the install, anyone know why?
[02:14] <ardiannur> test
[02:15] <jvx> xeno, Either ran out of ram or bad burn on install cd.
[02:15] <zykotic10> ardiannur: fail ;)
[02:15] <ardiannur> i guess not..
[02:15] <aartist> what RAM and Processor requirement is for Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:16] <zykotic10> !requirements
[02:17] <xeno> looks like the PC is up to the job, I'll try the cd, thanks
[02:17] <ardiannur> can anyone help me how to install vga driver ati hd 5470 on ubuntu?
[02:23] <fishcooker> i can't handle the bluetooth interface
[02:23] <Hariezg> hello... you know ubuntu indonesia?
[02:24] <casper0505> no
[02:24] <fishcooker> yes
[02:24] <casper0505> where is indonesia?
[02:24] <fishcooker> somewhere out there
[02:24] <casper0505> i like java coffee
[02:25] <Hariezg> Oh yea?? im from central java
[02:26] <casper0505> so you are a big gecko-like animal in java?
[02:27] <bazhang> !id | Hariezg
[02:28] <gaelfx> I have a Broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card and I installed the STA driver, but my wireless connection is only running at 65Mbps instead of 150Mbps, is there anything I can do to fix it?
[02:28] <ssfdre38> is there a way to install do-release-upgrade on 10.04 cause im on a VPS and its not installed
[02:29] <trism> ssfdre38: update-manager-core
[02:29] <cute_bettong> hi i have a bluetooth headset, and it's recognised in ubuntu 12.04 but i can't get any sound to come out of the headphones, can anyone help
[02:29] <Hariezg> ixconn for xfce?
[02:32] <Hariezg> how to uninstall program on xubuntu 11.10?
[02:32] <EvilResistance> Hariezg:  which program are you trying to uninstall?
[02:32] <gaelfx> cute_bettong: have you selected it as the sound output device in Sound Settings? Does dound come out from somewhere else when the headset is connected?
[02:32] <ssfdre38> what happens if do-release-upgrade cant find a new release and its been rebooted?
[02:33] <cute_bettong> gaelfx, thats just it while the headset is connected, there's no option for it in the sound settings, just my HDMI monitor and sound card show up as devices
[02:33] <Hariezg> @EvilResistance uninstall gnumeric
[02:35] <EvilResistance> Hariezg:  try this in the terminal: sudo apt-get remove gnumeric
[02:35] <EvilResistance> Hariezg:  or use Synaptic or something to remove that software, i'm not certain Software Center has an uninstall button (then again i dont use it)
[02:36] <Hariezg> @EvilResistance thanks! i'm will try
[02:37] <gaelfx> cute_bettong: hang on a sec
[02:38] <cute_bettong> gaelfx, okies
[02:45] <pepee> hi. does someone knows how to move a partition? I have a advanced format disk, and forgot to leave some space at the beginning of the disk...
[02:46] <evildaemon> So will the old 8.04 preseed iles still work?
[02:46] <evildaemon> *files
[02:46] <joe_chow> hello
[02:46] <pepee> hi joe_chow
[02:48] <bluegoober> Cant really move the partition , you would shrink it, leaving space before or after
[02:49] <cute_bettong> gaelfx, sorry got dissconnected, can you still help?
[02:50] <RangerMauve> Hey, I've been getting this error when trying to play MKV files with the default movie player in 12.04. I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight on what to do to fix it. Here it is: http://pastebin.com/rXvWPWQ8
[02:50] <pepee> bluegoober, you sure?
[02:50] <gaelfx> cute_bettong: I'm still looking for information about how to get bluetooth audio going, so...maybe :D
[02:50] <Trian3> I'm having trouble booting off a USB drive.  It doesn't appear to recognize it as a bootable device.  When I select that drive as the one to boot from, it moves on to the next device (my HD).  How do I troubleshoot this?
[02:50] <pepee> Trian3, has it worked before?
[02:51] <RangerMauve> @Trian3, have you gone into the bootloader in your BIOS to make sure your usb is above your HD?
[02:51] <cute_bettong> gaelfx, thank you so much for trying to help
[02:51] <Trian3> pepee:  No, I just set it up today.
[02:51] <skorket> I'm getting a linker error ('undefined reference __gmpz_init') when trying to compile a test 'hello world' gmp program.  I noticed that in /usr/lib the libgmp.so library is linked to 'libgmp.so.10.0.1'.  Could I be getting this error because of some incompatability between my current version of Ubuntu and the last version I was running?  Current version is 11.10, oneiric
[02:51] <pmitros> Ubuntu 12.04 is unusably slow on a quad core 2.9GHz CPU. Switched to xubuntu on one machine, and Ubuntu+xmonad on another. Just figured I'd drop in another vote against Unity, should anyone care.
[02:51] <Trian3> RangerMauve:  Yes, it is.
[02:51] <Madpilot> I've got a partitioned USB key that won't mount properly and that Disk Util won't reformat. Here's the error msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970576/ - how the heck do I force a reformatting?
[02:51] <pepee> Trian3, I mean, booting from USB in your computer
[02:52] <skorket> code is here: http://pastebin.com/s2pqL5VF
[02:53] <Trian3> pepee:  Ah, that's a good question.  I can't say for certain.  All I can tell you is that it's always been quite reliable in the past.
[02:53] <Trian3> pepee:  The hardware was top of the line at time of purchase.
[02:54] <trism> skorket: you need to put the -lgmp argument after the source file (so: gcc helloworld_gmp.c -lgmp; )
[02:54] <Madpilot> Trian3, depending on when "time of purchase" was, booting from USB can be flaky. My older computer, an otherwise very capable six year old machine, won't boot from USB even though it theoretically can...
[02:54] <skorket> trism, fffffffffuuu!  Thank you
[02:55] <Trian3> Madpilot: It's about a 3 year old system.
[02:55] <bluegoober> Partitions arnt east to move around, they aren't like files in that way, moving usually involves making a new partition copying the old to it deleting the old one,if you need space,in front of it there is no need to move it, justshrink it
[02:56] <pepee> Trian3, do you see the disk somewhere as an option in the boot menu?
[02:56] <pepee> Trian3, what hardware btw?
[02:56] <pepee> bluebomber, ahh k, thanks
[02:56] <Trian3> pepee:  Yes, I do.  And give me a moment on hardware make/model.
[02:56] <deper29> hi, I installed ubuntu 10.04 64 bit, and when I installed my proper video drivers, the resolution of my splash screen and grub turn terrible. is there a fix for this?
[02:58] <pepee> bluebomber, I recommend to you that you put the nick of the person you are talking to so it gets highlighted
[02:58] <gaelfx> cute_bettong: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset I know it's for older versions, but it's the only documentation for bluetooth audio I could find
[02:58] <pepee> Trian3, should be working. tried the usb in another machine?
[02:59] <bluegoober> Its goober and im on a tab typing
[02:59] <Trian3> pepee:  Mobo = nvidia nforce 790i Ultra sli
[03:00] <pepee> bluegoober, sorry
[03:00] <pepee> Trian3, brand, model of the motherboard?
[03:01] <Trian3> pepee: nVidia nforce 790i
[03:01] <pepee> Trian3, that's the chipset
[03:01] <pepee> Trian3, anyway, if you see the option somewhere, then it should be working
[03:02] <mcookie> I require assistance with ubuntu server edition!
[03:02] <Trian3> pepee:  found it.  evga 132-ck-nf79
[03:02] <xeno> ubuntu server crashing on instal, system meets requirements, tryrf 2 different disks, any idea?
[03:03] <gaelfx> xeno: how are you trying to install?
[03:03] <mcookie> Specifically with running a ventrilo server
[03:03] <pepee> xeno, you mean, the livecd is crashing?
[03:03] <xeno> of cd
[03:04] <gaelfx> xeno: does it always crash at the same point in install?
[03:04] <xeno> it fails on instal
[03:04] <xeno> crashed in several places
[03:05] <deper29> I follewed the directions here, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml and it kind of fixed it. my splash screen has the proper resolution for the logo, but the screen is the wrong size and doesn't actually fill my monitor. grub is still the wrong resolution as well
[03:05] <xeno> crashes on boot loader and network setup
[03:05] <gaelfx> xeno: only those two?
[03:05] <Trian3> Is there anything that needs to be in place besides the ldlinux.sys file to make the USB drive bootable?
[03:06] <serdotlin> Hi, how to display my nouveau driver temp on my conky?
[03:06] <xeno> also on select and instal software
[03:06] <gaelfx> Trian3: to make the USB bootable, you need to set the boot flag, but how are you trying to make the USB?
[03:07] <john_116> I've got a program on my computer called "fldigi".  It starts up and runs fine but I cannot figure out its location on my computer
[03:07] <gaelfx> xeno: did you check the md5 of the iso you downloaded? did you check the md5 of the cd you burned?
[03:07] <xeno> came up ok, just got it of the ubuntu site
[03:07] <john_116> And search for "fldigi" turns up nothing
[03:07] <OerHeks> !sensors | serdotlin
[03:08] <mcookie> If someone would like to help me with this problem, join me at https://crypto.cat/?c=ventubunt
[03:08] <Trian3> gaelfx: Well, I made the partition active.  Is that not the same thing?  I followed that up later in the sequence with the command "syslinux /dev/sdd1"
[03:08] <Trian3> gaelfx:  I'm making the USB drive via the instructions found here:  www.backtrack-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Persistent_USB
[03:08] <OerHeks> serdotlin, it is not a nouveau temp, just hardware.
[03:08] <Trian3> gaelfx:  Everything has worked so far except for this step
[03:09] <ficarra> When I plug my psp into my computer, this happens: http://imagebin.org/211237
[03:09] <ficarra> Anyone know why?
[03:09] <xeno> can get base system on then death
[03:09] <serdotlin> Oerheks, i already install lm-sensors package, the cpu sensors is working  on conky but don't know how to get my nouveau driver temp. Any idea?
[03:09] <ficarra> Sometimes it works
[03:09] <ficarra> But, mostly that pic
[03:10] <blocky> last time I looked I found that linux really has nothing to compete with Search Everything in windows... does anyone know if this is still the case?
[03:10] <gaelfx> Trian3: any particular reason you're making it persistent? and have you tried using unetbootin?
[03:10] <L3top> nouveau is software serdotlin. It does not have a temperature.
[03:10] <serdotlin> OerHeks, I mean my nouveau gpu temp...
[03:10] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to mount a network drive to /media/share..........how do i do that? the share address is: smb://openwrt/8gig%20share/
[03:11] <gaelfx> xeno: you mean you did check the md5? I don't know what you mean by "came up ok"
[03:11] <OerHeks> serdotlin, lot of conky examples, like this >> http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/398/how-to-setup-conky-a-system-monitoring-tool-for-ubuntu-part-2
[03:11] <Trian3> gaelfx:  Honestly?  I don't even really understand what the term means in this context.
[03:11] <Trian3> gaelfx:  And, no.  I haven't tried unetbootin
[03:11] <pepee> xeno, try the alternate cd
[03:11] <xeno> checd the disk yea
[03:11] <ficarra> Anyone?
[03:12] <Trian3> gaelfx: re unetbootin - are you referring to instructions here?  http://www.backtrack-linux.org/tutorials/usb-live-install/
[03:12] <KingBeast> Having problems sharing with samba.
[03:12] <naryfa> does anybody know how to change minimize effect in gnome shell? It minimizes windows to the upper left corner. I'd like to change it.
[03:12] <gaelfx> Trian3: persistent USB means that you can keep changes made to the USB after shutdown, but it can make things act pretty weird sometimes
[03:12] <gaelfx> Trian3: I wasn't referring to any specific instructions, but you can  use those instructions if you wish
[03:13] <gaelfx> Trian3: if you really want it to be persistent, then you should just do a full install to the USB
[03:13] <pepee> ficarra, probably a bug. you should file a bug report
[03:13] <serdotlin> OerHeks, for cpu temp scripts I use this command> exec sensors | grep "Core 0" | cut -d "+" -f2 | cut -c1-6}C, but for gpu?
[03:14] <Trian3> gaelfx:  Well, there are two sets of instructions on the site for a USB install.  unetbootin and persistent
[03:14] <pepee> ficarra, that, or doesn't get properly mounted
[03:14] <gaelfx> Trian3: I'd go with unetbootin, it makes everything very very simple
[03:14] <gaelfx> Trian3: you're just wanting to install from USB, right?
[03:14] <Trian3> gaelfx:  Leave it to me to pick the complicated one first...
[03:15] <Trian3> gaelfx:  Yes
[03:15] <gaelfx> Trian3: yeah, then definitely unetbootin is the way to go
[03:15] <Tropolis> What's the correct way to have new files created by a process with specific permissions/other groups without changing the system default?
[03:15] <pepee> paranoidphreak, from cli: smbmount
[03:15] <gaelfx> honestly, I don't understand why they use startup disk creator instead of making unetbootin the default app for making liveusbs
[03:16] <Trian3> gaelfx:  I'll give it a go.  However, I'm concerned that my booting issue isn't with the method of installation, but something else.
[03:16] <ficarra> pepee, it isn't doing it right now, and I can't remember exactly what it said, but the little hud popup at the top right would say "volume mounted" in big text, then below it (I think, something like this) "Improper UTF-8" or something.
[03:16] <pepee> paranoidphreak, there should be some other option somewhere
[03:16] <gaelfx> Trian3: are you sure that your computer can boot from USB?
[03:16] <jrib> Tropolis: what exactly do you want to do?
[03:16] <john_116> I've got a program on my computer called "fldigi".  It starts up and runs fine but I cannot figure out its location on my computer
[03:17] <john_116> which I need to be able to tell another program where it is located
[03:17] <dashie_> hi, what is the 'proper' way to add more IPs to /etc/network/interfaces
[03:17] <Trian3> gaelfx:  Certain.  It's an EVGA 132-CK-NF79 mobo.  (nForce 790i Ultra SLI chipset)
[03:17] <dashie_> googling for guides says a ton of eth0:0 :1 :2 etc
[03:17] <pepee> ficarra, I remember having a similar problem, but I don't know how did I fix it :/
[03:17] <dashie_> but there i think is some ip addr way off eth0 that i remember seeing somewhere
[03:17] <paranoidphreak> pepee: thanks.....i'll look into that
[03:17] <pepee> ficarra, check the system logs
[03:17] <blocky> when I do a nautilus file search and try to change the results from icons to a list... it performs the search again?
[03:18] <batanze> In Ubuntu, when I try to execute a binary built with qt, why do I get a "No such file or directory" even after I have installed 32 bit compatible libs (apt-get install ia32-libs)?
[03:19] <pepee> batanze, file a bug report, or write in the current report
[03:19] <xrfang> Hi , i just upgraded to 12.04 now i cant get usable wifi connection, anyone can help diagnose?
[03:20] <gaelfx> Trian3: so when you enter the boot selector, the USB doesn't show up?
[03:20] <navajo> xrfang: yes, go to terminal iwconfig
[03:20] <blocky> does this strike anyone else as really poor design?
[03:20] <pepee> xrfang, what do you mean by 'cant get usable'? does it work? too slow?
[03:21] <navajo> xrfang: then iwlist
[03:21] <Trian3> The boot selector that comes up is the BIOS boot selector.  USB shows up there.  I select it, but to no avail.  It tries to boot off that, returns no error, then continues to boot off the HD.
[03:21] <xrfang> Ok i am typing on my tablet bear wih me pls
[03:21] <pepee> blocky, yes, tell that to the devs
[03:21] <Trian3> gaelfx: ^^
[03:21] <gaelfx> Trian3: well, try to be optimistic about unetbootin then. lemme know if the problem persists
[03:21] <pepee> Trian3, does it show the brand of the usb drive in the menu?
[03:22] <blocky> which ones, nautilus?
[03:22] <pepee> Trian3, unetbootin is the easy way
[03:22] <Trian3> gaelfx:  Will do.  I'll reformat & follow that installation process now
[03:22] <pepee> blocky, gnome, I suppose
[03:22] <Trian3> pepee:  Yes, it does.
[03:22] <fishcooker> how to switch from unity to openbox
[03:22] <batanze> pepee: let me fire up a 11.x ubuntu VM and see if I can reproduce the issue.
[03:22] <navajo> xrfang: if out of range buy usb wifi adapter Rosewill for 15 bucks... extends the range..
[03:23] <navajo> xrfang: at newegg.com works great
[03:23] <xrfang> Navajo, iwconfig and iwlist wlan0 scanning both ok , see some ap, but cannot associate with any
[03:23] <pepee> fishcooker, sudo apt-get install openbox, then reboot
[03:23] <navajo> fishcooker: I use openbox hold on befor leave give u great link for openbox setup
[03:24] <pepee> Trian3, checked if is marked as bootable? you can use cfdisk to do that
[03:24] <xrfang> Signal very good, and if i reboot , i can get connected, but connection willfail after a few minutes
[03:24] <AtSt> good evening everyone.
[03:24] <pepee> xrfang, checked syslog? also, is the power management enabled in the device?
[03:24] <jseo> .
[03:25] <jseo> Help
[03:25] <pepee> hi AtSt
[03:25] <jseo> Help
[03:25] <pepee> !ask | jseo
[03:25] <AtSt> hi there.
[03:25] <xrfang> Will check now
[03:25] <jseo> ...
[03:26] <ssfdre38> is there a way to get mysql to start up when the server starts up cause it doesnt want to do that anymore
[03:26] <pepee> ssfdre38, yes, it does by default
[03:26] <ssfdre38> its not on my server
[03:27] <AtSt> Guys, I've configured my system to start on CLI. Thing is: After logging in, is there some way of starting X interface without leaving the CLI 1 logged on my account?
[03:27] <navajo> well fishcooker is going to learn the hardway to setup Openbox
[03:27] <pepee> ssfdre38, you can use update-rc.d to do that, but I've never done it
[03:27] <xrfang> Pepee, quite a lot insyslog i will try gt it posted...
[03:27] <pepee> xrfang, use pastebinit
[03:28] <AtSt> I mean: After starting X, I can block the account on GUI, but the X proccess will still be runnin on the CLI interface 1 (CTRL + ALT + F1), so anyone can get there, run a CTRL + C and get access to my files.
[03:28] <AtSt> Can I change this?
[03:28] <pepee> AtSt, you have the vt
[03:28] <mcookie> In ubuntu server edition, I have tried to install a ventrilo server, which is untarred as a .conf and a few executables. I tried running one of these executables, but it returned "No such file or directory". Help?
[03:28] <navajo> www.troll.ws
[03:29] <AtSt> What's this, pepee?
[03:29] <pepee> AtSt, X server should be in tty8
[03:29] <navajo> www.troll.ws imagebin paste
[03:29] <jrib> navajo: why are you posting this?
[03:29] <jrib> AtSt: you can probably use "exec"
[03:29] <pepee> AtSt, CTRL + ALT + F1 is tty1
[03:30] <AtSt> Well, pepee, it goes on tty8.
[03:30] <AtSt> tty7, I mean.
[03:30] <zykotic10> jrib: do you think it would be possible to start x from screen?  i highly doubt it, so you exec idea is probably a lot more likely.
[03:30] <AtSt> exec, jrib? like: exec x?
[03:30] <jrib> zykotic10: I think you can, that would be another way I guess
[03:30] <Brustofski-Fan> sudo amdconfig --initial  for a single monitor what is for a dual monitor
[03:31] <jrib> AtSt: exec startx, sure
[03:31] <jrib> AtSt: I don't know if that will work, try it
[03:31] <Con_Artist> ssfdre38, Do you have root (sudo) access to said server?
[03:31] <navajo> If u have to use another session for x then something is more then likely wrong with ur ubuntu setup..
[03:31] <bencc> can I tell gedit which syntax highlighting to use with a comment at the top of a text file?
[03:31] <AtSt> Well, pepee, I know about this. Problem is. I log on X, then block the account (on GUI) and then go away from the pc.
[03:31] <jrib> AtSt: maybe it's not a solution to your issue.  There may be a way to circumvent it
[03:32] <AtSt> Even with the account blocked on GUI, pepee, someone can go to tty1 where I will still be logged, cause I can't unlog there without closing X.
[03:32] <pepee> AtSt, hmm you don't have gdm or lightdm?
[03:32] <AtSt> jrib, I won't try now, cause if I do I'll have to close the X interface (and IRC).
[03:32] <jrib> AtSt: yes, why not just use something like lightdm and never log in at tty1?
[03:33] <AtSt> pepee, I don't even know what gdm and lightdm are.
[03:33] <ssfdre38> Con_Artist, yea
[03:33] <Trian3> Just finished unetbootin install.  (Damn, that wasy easy)  Rebooting now...  wish me luck!
[03:33] <Tropolis> jrib: I have a process running that constantly updates a bunch of text files, I want to give some users the ability to edit those files, but whenever the process updates or creates them, their permissions change to default (755)
[03:33] <jrib> Tropolis: do you have control over the process?
[03:33] <pepee> AtSt, the program that will let you select your desktop environment
[03:33] <AtSt> jrib, I want to start on CLI and then, sometimes (if I need to), log on X.
[03:33] <jrib> AtSt: probably best solution is to either log out or lock the tty when you start x
[03:33] <Con_Artist> ssfdre38, Then try this: "$ sudo update-rc.d path/to/SQL defaults" and change path/to/SQL to whatever is appropriate
[03:33] <blocky> how can something as fundamental as file searching be so poorly implemented?
[03:34] <AtSt> Ah, pepee. I could edit the grup file for starting on X, already, as well. But I really do want to start on CLI.
[03:34] <pepee> AtSt, you don't need to do that. you can switch to tty1-6 if you need it
[03:34] <maca> I have lost the subject that we are speaking. What happen, AtSt?
[03:34] <AtSt> jrib, lock the tty? How can I do that?
[03:34] <jrib> blocky: ask a real question please.  If you've found a bug or have a feature request, then file it at bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:34] <jrib> AtSt: uhhh... maybe vlock?
[03:34] <pepee> AtSt, also, tried something like "startx && exit"
[03:34] <pepee> ?
[03:35] <AtSt> pepee, I tried this one. Gave me some error.
[03:35] <nrdb> just installed 12.04 on a VM ... still unable to configure it to use more than 4 workspaces ... tried compiz and gconf-editor to change in ... no go!  ... it shouldn't be hard to do this (and it wasn't before)... how do I get more than 4 workspaces?
[03:35] <AtSt> jrib, vlock? Never heard about it, I'll seek info.
[03:35] <xrfang> hi, I have pasted syslog here: http://paste2.org/p/2010324
[03:36] <xrfang> NetworkManager cannot associate with AP, don't know why.
[03:36] <blocky> jrib, all I'm asking for is a user friendly file search application. nobody seems to know of one, and google is yielding little
[03:36] <jrib> blocky: nautilus has file search capabilities
[03:36] <xrfang> also, now I am using wifi without problem, because I just rebooted.   I am sure that after a while the connection will fail.
[03:36] <Tropolis> jrib: Yeah, I have root/complete control
[03:36] <pepee> xrfang, I hate NM :/
[03:36] <xrfang> but ubuntu use that ... :(
[03:36] <AtSt> I'll try it now. See ya later, and thank you too, jrib and pepee.
[03:37] <pepee> xrfang, you can remove it and install wicd
[03:37] <navajo> xrfang: it requires phrase or password
[03:37] <jrib> Tropolis: well you can modify umask in your program and the group you execute as (sg would do this in bash).  Or you can approach it at the filesystem level and use Access Control Lists but this would be location-specific instead of program-specific
[03:37] <xrfang> pepee: is there any document for this? and, can wicd integrate with ubuntu's applet?
[03:38] <Atterall> am I correct in saying that [[ `ls -A $directory` ]] would evaluate to true when the directory is not empty because `ls -A $directory' standard output is not empty ?
[03:38] <blocky> I'm going to see if I can get search everything to run under wine
[03:38] <jrib> Atterall: that seems umm... not ideal... try #bash
[03:38] <maca> nrdb, for the workspace problem, here your are: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[03:39] <tarvid> on reboot after upgrade to 12.04, screen is blank and numlock will not toggle
[03:39] <Atterall> I am = P.. it's not ideal I know.. it's the second week of a begining bash class so the bashFaq's answers are a little bit beyond my level of understanding
[03:39] <pepee> xrfang, no, I don't think it will integrate. you can remove networkmanager from synaptic, and then install wicd (requires internet)
[03:39] <Tropolis> jrib: it's being controlled by supervisord, which I think lets me set the umask. What would the ACL method be?
[03:40] <navajo> www.goosh.org  -Unofficial shell for google.com
[03:40] <Tropolis> jrib: As ideally I'd like to give some users access to a specific directory, and others access to a different one, both subdirectories of the main process
[03:40] <jrib> Tropolis: with ACLs you can set default permissions on files created somewhere (see « man setfacl », « man getfacl »)
[03:40] <xrfang> pepee: if I do so, and I think wicd only manages wifi? how about my eth0? have to do all these on command line ? :-)
[03:40] <pepee> tarvid, only after reboot?
[03:40] <pepee> xrfang, yes, only wifi, sadly...
[03:41] <jrib> Tropolis: why can't you just give the users appropriate permissions at the directory level?
[03:41] <xrfang> ... any other alternatives?
[03:41] <tarvid> I said yes to reboot and now I cannot get into the machine
[03:42] <pepee> xrfang, you can try to fix NM too
[03:42] <tarvid> the live CD does not come up either
[03:42] <pepee> xrfang, or install and try connman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29782/trying-network-managers-replacement-connman
[03:43] <xrfang> I was thinking of doing a complete new install of 12.04, because I found that if I switch to another account, the problem disappeared, I thought it is some personal setting problem, but sadly, the problem reappeared after a while (randomly).
[03:44] <Tropolis> jrib: The directory is owned by the process, and its group is set to the relevant group, with read-write permissions. But when the process creates new files, they're unwriteable to members of the required group, as they're created w/ default 755 with the process as the group
[03:44] <iananananan> Where on earth did synoptic disappear to, and why can't I find it in 12.04?
[03:44] <jrib> Tropolis: is there more than one level (i.e. do you need a recursive solution)?
[03:45] <jrib> iananananan: you can install it if you don't have it
[03:45] <Tropolis> jrib: Nope, just one level for now
[03:45] <navajo> xrfang: you played with profile and changed settings...
[03:45] <iananananan> jrib, are you telling me synoptic's no longer shipping with ubuntu distros?
[03:46] <xrfang> navajo, actually no.
[03:46] <jrib> iananananan: I don't know.  If you don't have it on a default install, then I suppose not.  It would be duplicating functionality provided by ubuntu software center anyway I imagine
[03:46] <xrfang> this problem happened after 2 things: 1) upgrade to 12.04; 2) I bought a new wifi router and reconfigured my home network
[03:46] <xrfang> because the signal is not strong enough.
[03:46] <anlarye> iananananan: you have to install synaptic on 12.04 (and even 11.10 before it if you did a fresh install)
[03:47] <iananananan> jrib, I suppose the redundancy is a fair point, but I do miss it.
[03:47] <jrib> Tropolis: well then another alternative is to setgid the directory, change the group ownership of the directory to the group you want files in to be created with and then just change the umask appropriately
[03:47] <xrfang> and I am pretty sure the wifi hardware is ok, because all other devices connected without problem, eg. windows laptop and my mobile phone etc.
[03:47] <jrib> iananananan: sudo apt-get install synaptic :)
[03:47] <anlarye> i like synaptic so i reinstalled it on my system
[03:47] <Tropolis> jrib: Hmm, that sounds like it could be what I want
[03:47] <navajo> xrfang: this is the reason I dont play  with ubuntu 12.04.. to many problems with Unity and Gnome 3..
[03:48] <anlarye> its always good to have multiple ways of doing something
[03:48] <pepee> xrfang, you can try dpkg-reconfigure too
[03:48] <jrib> Tropolis: ACLs are certainly more expressive though (you could do multiple groups for example)
[03:48] <iananananan> jrib, do you know the terminal command for enabling universe offhand?
[03:48] <xrfang> pepee, you mean reconfigure networkmanager?
[03:48] <greg_logan> hey, anyone have some time to help diagnose a 10.04 dhcp client issue?  I can see the packets hitting the dhcp server, and replies going out, but the box never picks up the IP :(
[03:48] <jrib> iananananan: edit /etc/apt/sources.list in your favorite text editor
[03:48] <pepee> xrfang, yes
[03:50] <xrfang> I will try that after this wifi session fails :)   btw, I also noticed that if I tried to do some download by downthemall (just to test bandwidths), the probability of failure increases. i.e. after transfering a lot of data rapidly it tends to fail suddenly
[03:50] <nrdb> maca, that suggested I install myunity ... I did ... but it did nothing!... it shows the workspaces as 4x2 (with no option to change them)... but they are still as 2x2.... this is crap... I used to be able to set this so easy.
[03:50] <Tropolis> jrib: I'll read the manpage for setgid now, and possibly look into ACL's if it's not quite right. Thank you very much for your help.
[03:51] <pepee> xrfang, well, some router seem to be incompatible with ubuntu :/
[03:51] <jrib> Tropolis: to setgid, do: chmod g+s /path/to/directory
[03:51] <xrfang> that's also a posibility...
[03:51] <pepee> xrfang, checked if power management is enabled?
[03:51] <jrib> Tropolis: you'll still need to change umask though (so that group can write)
[03:55] <iananananan> jrib, "package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate"
[03:55] <iananananan> jrib, updated sources n everything. also ran apt-get update. no dice.
[03:55] <jrib> iananananan: run « sudo apt-get update » after enabling universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <iananananan> jrib, probably added incorrect sources.
[03:56] <jrib> iananananan: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list if you want
[03:56] <Khmerog> anyone know which network the linux mint channel is in?
[03:56] <iananananan> jrib, will do. found a dated documentation page, i think it's inaccurate.
[03:57] <aaas> anyone ever have a computer periodically have the wrong time even when left on for an extended period
[03:57] <pepee> Khmerog, google says #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[03:58] <nrdb> just installed 12.04 on a VM ... still unable to configure it to use more than 4 workspaces ... tried compiz and gconf-editor and myunity to change it ... no go!  ... it shouldn't be hard to do this (and it wasn't before)... how do I get more than 4 workspaces?  after something like 3 releases you think this stuff would have been worked out.
[03:58] <L3top> aaas: wrong as in a few minutes, or a different time zone
[03:58] <odix>  anybody know why php wouldnt work after installing on ubuntu ? says its installed, using whereis php
[03:59] <pepee> odix, "wouldnt work" as in...?
[03:59] <maca>  nrdb, for the workspace problem, here your are: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[03:59] <Khmerog> lol thanks pepee i should have googled it myself
[03:59] <iananananan> jrib, http://www.pastebin.com/aYJihZhY
[03:59] <pepee> yeah heh
[03:59] <aaas> L3top wrong as in off hours +min
[03:59] <odix> it just doesnt work when i use it in webpages
[03:59] <odix> in html
[03:59] <iananananan> jrib, last two lines were ones i added.
[03:59] <maca> nrdb, with MyUnity software you can set a number of workspaces...
[03:59] <odix> and I can't figure out why
[04:00] <pepee> odix, you need to configure your web server
[04:00] <nrdb> maca, no!!!!
[04:00] <jrib> iananananan: that's correct.  Now sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy synaptic
[04:00] <odix> pepee: if i used the package manager and installed both of them, why wouldn't it auto pick it up ? always has before
[04:01] <pepee> odix, the update could have changed the config files
[04:01] <iananananan> jrib, there we go. What was that after the ampersand?
[04:01] <maca> [04:01] <jrib> iananananan: apt-cache policy just gives info about a package -- it didn't actually /do/ anything
[04:02] <maca> you asked me how to get more than 4 workspaces, no?
[04:02] <iananananan> jrib, it did actually update the packages as o-
[04:02] <iananananan> jrib, I now realize I hadn't been connected to the web. Damn liveCDs.
[04:02] <iananananan> jrib, Whoops!
[04:03] <nrdb> maca, it does allow any change!   and what it does show (4x2) isn't what the what I have. (2x2)
[04:05] <nrdb> maca, I have tried ever method (all 4) listed on that page you gave me and none change the number of workspaces.
[04:06] <maca> ok, i undesrstand now
[04:06] <ztag100> anyone here who uses zsh?
[04:06] <nrdb> maca, i also just tried to logout/login and its still the same.
[04:06] <jrib> ztag100: ask an actual question please
[04:06] <tucemiux> how do I get my volume icon back!
[04:06] <maca> sorry ztag, i dont use it
[04:06] <iananananan> Any suggestions as to how I might restore a broken windows recovery partition on a laptop?
[04:06] <ztag100> jrib: I was going to ask if anyone knew anything about it
[04:07] <tucemiux> iananananan, use the CD - you might have to reconfigure ubuntu if you have a dual boot, thatll be 50 clams please
[04:07] <jrib> ztag100: questions like those aren't really productive on irc.  The answer is just "yes" and you probably plan on asking your real question after that.  We prefer it if you just ask your actual question from the beginning
[04:07] <violinappren> ztag100: hardly a question
[04:07] <marm0t> Anyone know how to bring up the transparent keyboard control map in 12.04. I've seen it in videos but don't know how to launch it.
[04:07] <wellpaidrichguy> unity
[04:08] <iananananan> tucemiux, I have neither a CD nor a iso for a boot. Thanks, sony, for producing the shittiest of laptops and support.
[04:08] <marm0t> where in unity?
[04:08]  * iananananan hands tucemiux 50 clams, begrudgingly
[04:08] <wellpaidrichguy> sorry compiz fuzion
[04:08] <maca> nrdb, at the moment i haven't got some idea for now.
[04:08] <maca> so... I hope someone helps you
[04:08] <marm0t> ok, not sure I have compiz installed. I'll check
[04:09] <tucemiux> iananananan, but why would you want to restore a recovery partition?  If the recovery partition is for you to restore windows, it's like asking a doctor to cure himself
[04:10] <iananananan> tucemiux, I'm fixing a laptop for someone likely to break it again. It'd be nice if I could just tell him to boot the recovery partition as opposed to manually reinstalling every time.
[04:10] <iananananan> also I'd really rather not touch win7 partitioning. I understand it's obnoxious.
[04:11] <tucemiux> iananananan, does win7 have restore points?  I havent really touched win7 much
[04:11] <chris_0076> ok guys, I am still at a loss of being able to access my other install
[04:11] <violinappren> !ot | iananananan: ask in #windows
[04:12] <nrdb> maca, this is a significant backward step... since unity was forced on us... been waiting a long time for this to be fixed.
[04:12] <iananananan> #windows exists? anyways tucemiux understand that most ship with a recovery partition as it's less work than cds, and they tend to suck.
[04:12] <cimabue> Hi
[04:12] <chris_0076> in short: I have 3 partitions, 1 with 12.04 and one with a broke 11.10 and one with my data
[04:13] <chris_0076> I am unable to boot to the 11.10 one
[04:13] <Markus___> whats up people
[04:13] <wellpaidrichguy> sup
[04:14] <violinappren> chris_0076:  is there any entry for it in grub? any errors?
[04:14] <gaelfx> !notunity | nrdb
[04:14] <gaelfx> unity hasn't been forced on you, there are other DE's available in Ubuntu
[04:14] <wellpaidrichguy> macbuntu in 12.4 will it work
[04:14] <iananananan> If something's got the power to mess with recovery partitions, should I fear pluggin the hdd into another computer and booting a ubuntu livecd for the sake of faster virus scanning w/clamtk?
[04:15] <fishcooker> i've no luck with BT
[04:15] <fishcooker> device
[04:15] <chris_0076> violinappren, even before I installed 12.04 the 11.10 would not boot
[04:15] <fishcooker> it is on mode
[04:15] <fishcooker> BUT still can work well
[04:15] <chris_0076> but since I have installed 12.04 the grub entry for the 11.10 is not there
[04:15] <violinappren> chris_0076: describe exactly what happens
[04:15] <violinappren> !enter  | fishcooker
[04:15] <chris_0076> well, nothing, the 11.10 is unbootable
[04:16] <chris_0076> I installed 12.04 hoping to upgrade
[04:16] <chris_0076> well, the 11.10 was the original upgrade
[04:16] <chris_0076> actually, let me get what I posted before
[04:16] <violinappren> !gq | chris_0076
[04:17] <chris_0076> http://pastebin.com/VmtwHyDc
[04:17] <wellpaidrichguy> i know this is off topic but im new to irc where is a general chat room in freenode
[04:17] <anlarye> wellpaidrichguy: do a /list to find chats in IRC
[04:18] <wellpaidrichguy> thank you
[04:18] <wellpaidrichguy> didnt work
[04:18] <wellpaidrichguy> im using empaty as my client
[04:18] <chris_0076> violinappren,  http://pastebin.com/VmtwHyDc
[04:18] <gaelfx> wellpaidrichguy: sudo apt-get install irssi is the cure for that problem. Empathy only has superficial irc support
[04:19] <wellpaidrichguy> thanks
[04:19] <violinappren> chris_0076:  press shift when it starts to boot, then select recovery and see if it boots/what error messages you get
[04:19] <gaelfx> wellpaidrichguy: after it installs, type 'irssi' in a terminal, then /connect ubuntu, then /join #ubuntu
[04:19] <marm0t> or xchat if you want gui client for irc
[04:20] <wellpaidrichguy> i was actually hoping for a terminal client
[04:20] <anlarye> wellpaidrichguy: irssi is a CLI dedicated IRC client. Generally the best way to use IRC is with a dedicated client.
[04:20] <wellpaidrichguy> teminal is fine
[04:20] <chris_0076> violinappren, there are no errors in recovery mode
[04:20] <violinappren> chris_0076: then what happens when you process to boot?
[04:20] <chris_0076> the 11.10 is not an option, and 12.04 boots just fine
[04:21] <chris_0076> the 11.10 has not booted since I installed it
[04:21] <joshua> hello
[04:21] <tucemiux> anyone knows of a way to get my volume icon back?
[04:21] <Guest70015> hi
[04:22] <Guest70015> test
[04:22] <Guest70015> alright
[04:23] <Guest70015> how do i change my nick
[04:23] <pepee> /nick newNick
[04:23] <insulina> hello, I have two jvm on my ubuntu server, how do I say to tomcat to use oracle jvm?
[04:24] <violinappren> chris_0076: did you press shift when 11.10 starts to boot?
[04:24] <Ryan_Ryan> ^ÂÊÎÔÛâêîôûCcGgHhJjSsWwYyˆ^??????????????????????????????????????????????????^??
[04:24] <chris_0076> 11.10 is not an option
[04:24] <Ryan_Ryan> dammit why
[04:25] <violinappren> chris_0076: not an option in the boot menu?
[04:25] <newJosh> j
[04:25] <chris_0076> I tried to update grub but there was a lock error
[04:25] <chris_0076> violinappren, yes
[04:25] <josh> finaly fixed the nick thing thamks
[04:25] <josh> list
[04:26] <violinappren> insulina: prepend the directory to PATH in .bashrc, for example : PATH="/path/to/oraclejvm/:$PATH"
[04:26] <chris_0076> sorry if I am being unhelpful, I am just a bit irritated =/
[04:26] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, do you have the bootscript from running the bootrepair?
[04:26] <violinappren> chris_0076: run update_grub in 12.04 and see if it picks up the other installation
[04:27] <josh> hooe do i get a list of channels
[04:27] <violinappren> josh: /list
[04:27] <pepee> i wouldn't do that...
[04:28] <josh> josh: /list
[04:28] <chris_0076> violinappren, http://pastebin.com/rwe3mv1R
[04:28] <chris_0076> no, it did not find it
[04:28] <josh> i typed /list
[04:28] <josh> noothing
[04:28] <chris_0076> I can mount the 11.10 partition though
[04:28] <alusion> Is there a stable screen saver for 12.04 ? Gnome-screensaver has frightening reviews
[04:29] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, If you have that bootscript it is a excellent debug tool takes out a lot of the guessing.
[04:29] <violinappren> chris_0076:  it's not picked it up, when do you need to boot it? to get data from there? you could mount the partition under 12.04
[04:30] <pepee> josh, look in the server tab
[04:30] <chris_0076> my intention was to upgrade the 11.10 partition
[04:30] <josh> text based
[04:31] <chris_0076> the data is all on its own partition
[04:31] <chris_0076> Fyodorovna, what bootscript?
[04:31] <violinappren> chris_0076: upgrade it to what? you already have a working 12.04 installation
[04:31] <chris_0076> I am upgrading the 11.10
[04:31] <violinappren> chris_0076: to ?
[04:31] <chris_0076> 12.04
[04:32] <violinappren> chris_0076: why not use what you have on other partition?
[04:32] <chris_0076> can I move all of my system settign over?
[04:32] <chris_0076> settings*
[04:32] <violinappren> chris_0076: since you originally upgraded this from 11.04, such an upgrade will be problematic
[04:33] <mauriam> hola ;)
[04:33] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, It is in the boot repair app but follow this to make one. Using a live ubuntu cd download this script extract it to your desktop and run this command and pastebin the results text http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/     sudo bash ~/Desktop/bootinfoscript
[04:33] <abc1> Hola
[04:33] <violinappren> chris_0076: you could use  a live cd to wipe your home directory on 12.04 and copy your 11.04 home dir, but.. i wouldnt recommend that
[04:33] <violinappren> !es | mauriam
[04:33] <chris_0076> violinappren, then what would you recommend?
[04:34] <violinappren> chris_0076: redoing the configuration manually :)
[04:34] <josh> sorry i was working im usng a text based client
[04:34] <chris_0076> violinappren, it is a separate partition btw
[04:34] <violinappren> chris_0076: ive seen people spending so much time trying to fix broken upgrades
[04:34] <chris_0076>  /home
[04:34] <josh> im looking for the command to see availible networkds
[04:34] <josh> *chanels
[04:35] <violinappren> josh:  /join #freenode
[04:35] <mauriam> ok thx :)
[04:35] <chris_0076> so is there a way to just set the mount point of that partition to be my home folder?
[04:35] <Fyodorovna> chris_0076, you can run that script from the 12.04 install as well same method
[04:35] <violinappren> !fstab | chris_0076
[04:36] <chris_0076> ok then, is there a way to get the windows manager from 11.04?
[04:36] <chris_0076> er
[04:37] <chris_0076> let me rephrase that
[04:37] <chris_0076> I need to reinstall ubuntu classic
[04:37] <jrib> chris_0076: what ubuntu version?
[04:38] <chris_0076> I am running 12.04, the classic version I am talking about was from 11.04
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> .win 35
[04:38] <Logan_> chris_0076: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[04:38] <tonsofpcs> .win 35
[04:38] <jrib> chris_0076: I would recommend you move on to a different (but similar) environment.  For example: xfce or lxde
[04:38] <chris_0076> well, I am trying xfce right now
[04:38] <chris_0076> and it is unpleasant
[04:39] <chris_0076> not sure if I am just irritable right now because of other problems or what >.>
[04:39] <Logan_> chris_0076: The gnome-panel package will give you the Ubuntu Classic environment.
[04:39] <violinappren> !nounity | chris_0076
[04:39] <abc1> Yeah, I would like to go back to that earlier program too. Believe it was call Ocelot??
[04:39] <jrib> abc1: oneiric ocelot is the name of an ubuntu release
[04:40] <Logan_> abc1: No, that's the name of Ubuntu 11.04. You want to install gnome-panel if you want a GNOME 2-like desktop environment.
[04:40] <chris_0076> ok, brb
[04:40] <IanWizard-Cloud> How can I save the guest acct setup.  Alternatively, where is the guest acct generated from?
[04:40] <violinappren> IanWizard-Cloud: you can't, it gets erased when you log out
[04:41] <violinappren> IanWizard-Cloud: create a normal user and use ir
[04:41] <violinappren> it
[04:41] <IanWizard-Cloud> violinappren: hence my alternative question
[04:41] <gaelfx> why does software-center lose the search field whenever you select a package?
[04:41] <violinappren> IanWizard-Cloud: simply add a new user account using the "user and groups" tool
[04:41] <chris_0076> this is worse than xfce
[04:42] <chris_0076> black bar at bottom and part of the top is cut off
[04:42] <chris_0076> plus, no shutdown/time applet
[04:42] <chris_0076> and no right-click on the panels >.>
[04:42] <Logan_> chris_0076: Alt+Super+Right Click
[04:42] <tucemiux> unity, kde...
[04:43] <IanWizard-Cloud> I am perfectly capable of setting up a new user.  I'm just asking where the guest account is generated from.  Is it truly creating a new account each time.
[04:43] <tucemiux> gnome!
[04:43] <fishcooker> i've installed Full circle magazine from ubuntu software center
[04:43] <gaelfx> Jockey fails to activate fglrx drivers, but software-center says they're installed, do I need to do something special to actually put them to use?
[04:43] <abc1> It was from about 3 years ago and served me just fine. Lots of things to play with, but much less time wasting than XP.
[04:43] <fishcooker> where is those item installed?
[04:44] <violinappren> IanWizard-Cloud: temporarily, yes and its home directory is based on tmpfs (mounted in RAM)
[04:44] <jrib> fishcooker: if you know the name of the package, dpkg -L NAME_OF_PACKAGE   will list the files installed by NAME_OF_PACKAGE
[04:44] <chris_0076> any clue as to why part of the screen is missing?
[04:44] <chris_0076> seems as if the screen is shifted up ~10 px
[04:46] <gaelfx> chris_0076: can you see the top-panel
[04:46] <chris_0076> yess
[04:46] <chris_0076> yes*
[04:47] <gaelfx> well that sucks
[04:47] <chris_0076> but like I said, it seems shifted up ~10 px
[04:47] <teratoma> so i found some debs in ubuntu/pool/universe/ on a website.  i dont see the package names when i search in aptitude or synaptic.  how do i use them?
[04:47] <chris_0076> so the top is clipped and the bottom has a black bar
[04:47] <fishcooker> thanks jrib
[04:47] <fishcooker> it works
[04:48] <violinappren> teratoma: dpkg -i packagename,  but you should search the PPAs first
[04:48] <rodhash> Pidgin → Accept certificate for ows.messenger.msn.com?  The certificate for ows.messenger.msn.com could not be validated. The certificate claims to be from "*.opendns.com" instead.
[04:48] <rodhash> Hi guys... Why I'm getting this message on pidgin? And is it safe to accept it?
[04:48] <_xan_> chris_0076: I would probably have ubuntu regenerate the xorg.conf
[04:48] <violinappren> !ppa | teratoma
[04:48] <gaelfx> how can I tell if the fglrx drivers are in use? Jockey says they aren't active, but software center says they're installed
[04:48] <violinappren> rodhash: not safe
[04:48] <derekchiang1> Hello guys, I just used "svn checkout" to check out a bunch of source files, but where can I find them?
[04:49] <violinappren> rodhash: seems opendns is intercepting your connection
[04:49] <violinappren> derekchiang1: in the same directory you checked them out it
[04:49] <violinappren> derekchiang1: in*
[04:49] <rodhash> violinappren, is there any safe way to fix it?
[04:50] <violinappren> rodhash: stop using opendns
[04:50] <rodhash> odd... bunch of people used to say it's a great and free dns server... : (
[04:50] <derekchiang1> violinappren: I see them.  Thanks a lot!
[04:50] <violinappren> rodhash: and it also intercepts google searches
[04:51] <rodhash> violinappren, any suggestion of a dns server?
[04:51] <violinappren> rodhash: none, just use a local caching dns server like dnsmasq
[04:53] <rodhash> ok, thx
[04:54] <rabbi1> my ubuntu 10.04 says i have broken packages, what to do ? :(
[04:54] <violinappren> !pastebin | rabbi1
[04:54] <cdm10> rabbi1, please paste the message you get to that pastebin.
[04:55] <cdm10> rabbi1, when and how did it tell you you had broken packages?
[04:56] <rabbi1> cdm10: while clicking on check in update manager, also asked for Ubuntu CD, i inserted and then said "Install Updates". Now its not showing that message....
[04:56] <cdm10> rabbi1, please open a terminal and run < sudo apt-get -f >
[04:57] <cdm10> rabbi1, Actually, that command may be wrong, it's been a while...
[04:57] <rabbi1> cdm10: but the problem started with fonts, i have reset gnome cofig and its font and also installled core fonts from scratch..... now when ever i install a new font, entire gnome fonts are replaced by new one.... :(
[04:57] <violinappren> rabbi1: cdm10: apt-get -f install
[04:58] <cdm10> violinappren, thanks :) I'm rusty.
[04:58] <violinappren> rabbi1: were you trying to upgrade your system using update manager?
[04:58] <cipher__> is there any way for me to adjust my bass / treble?
[04:58] <Oprtz> hi guys
[04:58] <moderator> cipher__: have you tried the knobs on your speakers?
[04:58] <rabbi1> violinappren: nope, i am not upgrading at all, currently with 10.04
[04:58] <cipher__> moderator, with alsa
[04:59] <cipher__> :/
[04:59] <Oprtz> !help, i lose all hope because my Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is not working under ubuntu 12.04, it disconnect after 5 minutes, i am on latest kernal 3.3 but still has problems, any one know how to solve the issu? thanks
[04:59] <rabbi1> violinappren: that command gave me list of packages which are no longer required and asking to use apt-get autoremove ,,, should i do ?
[05:00] <cdm10> rabbi1, could you paste that into a pastebin?
[05:00] <cdm10> !pastebin | rabbi1
[05:00] <violinappren> rabbi1: yes, and no broken packages?
[05:01] <rabbi1> violinappren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/970699/ ... no broken package
[05:01] <abc1> I could upgrade to win7 or win8(billion) or whatever. But I have been upgrading since win3 and it hasn't gotten much better:) The only thing which makes windows tolerable is 3rd party addons like Search Everything and AutoHotkey.
[05:01] <violinappren> cipher__: https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/webupd8    .. has pulseaudio-equalizer
[05:01] <cipher__> thanks
[05:03] <violinappren> rabbi1: then no problem i guess
[05:03] <moderator> abc1: Do you have a question about ubuntu? This is not the appropriate setting for concerns about other OS configurations.
[05:03] <rabbi1> violinappren: but any new font installed replaces the entire gnome font .......
[05:03] <violinappren> rabbi1: how do you install it?
[05:04] <rabbi1> violinappren: i just double click and opens in a font viewer , where i get install font option and just click on that
[05:05] <violinappren> !bug > Oprtz
[05:06] <violinappren> rabbi1:  i no longer use gnome so won't be of much help with that
[05:07] <rabbi1> violinappren: unity? that's ok. thank you .... so no problem with packages right..... so no problem to my OS....
[05:07] <violinappren> rabbi1: xfce
[05:07] <violinappren> rabbi1: yeah seems you have no broken packages
[05:07] <rabbi1> I will try try to completely install gnome from scratch ....
[05:08] <moderator> !gnome > rabbi1
[05:09] <blocky> is it possible to set a custom keyboard shortcut to launch a custom lens
[05:10] <moderator> !shortcut > blocky
[05:10] <enav> HI fellas!  anyone here can point me to a tutorial to install suPHP on ubuntu LAMP  ???
[05:10] <Chris_0076> ugh, the instant I get this fixed I vow to never upgrade again
[05:10] <rabbi1> moderator: i know its default, but can i get a fresh gnome ?
[05:10] <abc1> moderator: Sorry, just voicing my opinion.
[05:11] <blocky> moderator, what do I type for command to launch a lens?
[05:11] <moderator> enav: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:11] <moderator> !lamp > enav
[05:11] <thewheat> hey guys, anybody know how to debug custom theme issues that prevent it from loading? it doesn't work in my main user account, but i created a new user and it works in that one. i've been using this main user account probably from 10.04 upgrading all the way to 12.04
[05:12] <rabbi1> adding gnome3 on 10.04 is okay ?
[05:12] <enav> but i saw that doc already it have nothing about suphp
[05:13] <moderator> rabbi1: is this 10.04 server or 10.04 desktop?
[05:13] <rabbi1> moderator: desktop 10.04 - 84
[05:13] <Logan_> moderator: Why would he install GNOME 3 on a server?
[05:13] <rabbi1> moderator: desktop 10.04 - * 64 Bit
[05:13] <moderator> Logan_: You would be surprised what people do
[05:14] <blocky> anyone know how to launch a lens via terminal or from a keyboard shortcut?
[05:15] <moderator> rabbi1: It is possible. See tutorial: http://hackers001.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-1004.html
[05:15] <Logan_> rabbi1: It's not in the repository for lucid, so it's unsupported in this channel.
[05:16] <rabbi1> Logan_: then, how could i solve my font problem ? either got to have gnome2 freshly installed and how ? else move to gnome3....
[05:16] <manzoor> Hi guys : my virtual machine  is not detecting WIFI connections so is there any way  to make it?
[05:17] <moderator> manzoor: What is the OS on the native environment and VM?
[05:18] <rabbi1> Incase, i have to upgrade to 12.04 what are the backups i need to take ?
[05:18] <cdm10> manzoor, a virtual machine probably shouldn't detect any wireless connection, that is handled by the host machine. The virtual machine can connect to the Internet via a virtual network created by the host machine.
[05:18] <moderator> !backup > rabbi1
[05:19] <violinappren> manzoor: the VM has no access to the wireless card at all
[05:19] <manzoor> @moderator : base OS is ubuntu and i have installed rhel5 on VM
[05:20] <moderator> violinappren: That is not true. VMs detect the hardware of the native OS.
[05:20] <manzoor> @cdm10  : thanks for the valuable advise.
[05:20] <uglyoldbob> so ive been working an a usb device that emulates a cd drive
[05:20] <Flynsarmy> why does alt+grave appear to be hardcoded into unity? I set the scale plugin to use it in CCSM but unity just overrides with the most useless functionality i've ever seen. No conflict warnings or anything so i dont think there's anything else in CCSM using that keyboard combo
[05:20] <cdm10> moderator, this is usually untrue.
[05:21] <cdm10> moderator, the virtual machine presents the guest OS with generic hardware to fulfill the functions it needs, like a virtual Ethernet adapter, which it connects to a virtual LAN. The VM can't see the host's hard drive, for example -- just a virtual hard drive or partition -- unless you specifically allow it to, which is usually unwise.
[05:22] <moderator> cdm10: This is correct. But certain hardware is readily available to the VM environment. Among many, wireless hardware is usually one of them.
[05:23] <violinappren> moderator: manzoor: some of the hardware, and what virtual machine are you using?
[05:23] <zimby> Shumway is going to be Mozillas replacment for flash
[05:23] <gaelfx> is xv the codec that uses UVD for Radeon cards?
[05:23] <moderator> violinappren: @moderator : base OS is ubuntu and i have installed rhel5 on VM
  <violinappren> : i have installed rhel5 on vm..
[05:24] <cmcintosh> any USBVGA gurus on?
[05:24] <cdm10> manzoor, what virtual machine software?
[05:24] <violinappren> moderator: what VM software? kvm, virtualbox, xen, .. ?
 VM..
[05:25] <devish> is there any email client which is compatible with MS exchange server in linux
[05:25] <Brustofski-Fan> ubuntu 12.04 i installed gdm and gdm themes... How do i change the themes??
[05:25] <violinappren> manzoor: how do you start the virtual machine?
[05:25] <cdm10> manzoor, VMware?
[05:25] <violinappren> devish: evolution
[05:25] <devish> violinappren: any plugin required?
[05:26] <violinappren> devish: not that i know of, but i dont use fat email clients
[05:26] <manzoor> VMware workstation 8
[05:26] <gaelfx> I can't install anything because software-center is "Searching", how can I make it stop?
[05:26] <cmcintosh> sendmail is nice
[05:26] <cdm10> devish, are you just looking for email support, or calendar + contacts + everything support with Exchange?
[05:26] <uglyoldbob> so is there a such thing as anorexic software?
[05:27] <violinappren> manzoor: NOT possible
 i start the VM by double clicking the VM icon..
[05:27] <devish> cdm everything
[05:27] <violinappren> manzoor: you cannot access physical PCI cards inside the guest OS
[05:27] <Flynsarmy> Why does unity do its best to make things difficult? Why is there no autocomplete in alt+f2!? If i type /home/use and hit tab it should autocomplete to /home/username like gnome 2 run menu did. the current functionality is ridiculous
[05:27] <foolsh> manzoor:  I've only seen devices on the usb bus be available to the guest. All other devices for the guest are virtual.
[05:28] <gaelfx> I tried to cancel the "Searching" thing, but it still hasn't finished cancelling
[05:28] <violinappren> uglyoldbob: "thin" clients nowadays are web interfaces
[05:28] <GhostWolf> does anyone here know how to make a 3 image gif thats not animated? im wanting to add 2 images to a text. like a name with 2 images on the front and end of the name
[05:28] <kulhas> I am using ubuntu server, geoserver with tomcat + oracle jvm 7, but when I restart service tomcat it fails, but tomcat app's still works, logs are ok, is there a oracle log missing ? how can I get everything working good
[05:28] <kulhas> ?
 : thanks for the info..
[05:29] <cdm10> GhostWolf, do you mean one big image?
[05:29] <jean_brat> there is a strange problem with the network manager, I have a wired connection and i have created a new wireless network to share my internet connection with the Phone,
[05:29] <jean_brat> with normal configuration : with only LAN is connected and no other network setting configured, if network connection breaks and it comes back again. It will automatically re-connect to the internet.
[05:29] <jean_brat> However with the Wireless network configured it does not work that way, if the connection breaks it will not come back on. after many trial and errors the only solution is to delete all the configuration from the network managaer and create a new wired connection and start all over again. is this a bug? what could be the possible solution to this?
[05:29] <FloodBot1> jean_brat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <violinappren> !enter | jean_brat
[05:29] <cdm10> devish: Then Evolution's probably the way to go.
 thanks..
[05:29] <devish> i see i have thunderbird by default, will it do
[05:29] <GhostWolf> cdm10, well not one big image, but in one image yes. i need to make it small cause its for an icon but not an .ico file name
[05:29] <gaelfx> I pkilled software-center, but when I restart it, it's still cancelling "Searching"
[05:30] <cdm10> GhostWolf, try GIMP, it's an image editor.
[05:30] <foolsh> manzoor: Just do a dual boot install you won't be disappointed trust me
[05:30] <moderator> !wireless > jean_brat
[05:30] <GhostWolf> cdm10, i been trying to do that but i have no clue how to do it in gimp. im not a graphics type person to do this
[05:30] <cdm10> gaelfx, the problem is that the APT daemon is still busy -- is this a machine you can easily reboot?
[05:30] <cmcintosh> cdm10, technically its a graphical image manipulation program
[05:30] <Underscores__> I am trying to install ubuntu on a system in which the CD drive is borked and has a broadcom wireless chipset. This appears to cause a kernel panic when I boot off the USB key
[05:30] <Underscores__> Ignore the unnecessary comma.
[05:30] <devish> gaelfx: don't use software-center, thats too heavy , as i see it
[05:31] <cdm10> cmcintosh, I know what GIMP is..
[05:31] <GhostWolf> im already in the #gimp channel but i never done something like this
 my next option is dual boot only..
[05:31] <cmcintosh> cdm10, messing with you
[05:31] <cdm10> manzoor, can I ask you what you're trying to accomplish?
[05:31] <cmcintosh> GhostWolf,  i think you can do it using layers
[05:31] <moderator> Underscores__: Are you saying the hardware is causing a kernel panic when you boot from the USB?
[05:31] <violinappren> GhostWolf: 'convert' which is part of of the imagemagick package
[05:32] <cdm10> cmcintosh, oh, sorry, now I've got it :)
[05:32] <violinappren> GhostWolf: it's a command line tool
[05:32] <gaelfx> cdm10: could, but I guess it finally got unbusy
[05:32] <cdm10> cmcintosh, he doesn't want an animated GIF
[05:32] <cmcintosh> then wtf would you use gif?
[05:32] <GhostWolf> cmcintosh, i've tried that i just don't know how.
[05:32] <devish> one more thing does the does task bar do not auto hide in 12.04
[05:32] <Underscores__> moderator, I'm not exactly sure what's causing the panic. I have part of the stack trace avalable, but it seems to be in network initialization
[05:32] <GhostWolf> violinappren, what?
[05:33] <gaelfx> devish: yeah, but the issue was that I had started it already and I couldn't use anything else to install packages while it was still searching. It's ok now though, so no worries
[05:33] <cmcintosh> i thought thats all people used gifs for was dumb avatar animations
[05:33] <violinappren> !info imagemagick | GhostWolf
[05:33] <gaelfx> cmcintosh: untrue, they are also great for lolcatz
[05:33] <GhostWolf> violinappren, i've rather use gimp
[05:33] <GhostWolf> its what i have right now
[05:33] <violinappren> ok..
[05:33] <moderator> Underscores__: Can you not unplug the wireless device, use an ethernet, and boot from USB?
[05:34] <GhostWolf> and im not making an animated gif. im making an icon thats an gif extension cause its for a chat room i go to
 my virtual machine have to detect WIFI connections..
[05:34] <Underscores__> moderator, I suppose I should have added the detail that the target is a laptop; I could try to disable it from the BIAS
[05:34] <cdm10> violinappren, it seems like he just wants to take three images and use them in one larger image.
[05:34] <xuserx> hi
[05:35] <xubuntu> hola
[05:35] <Underscores__> Basically what happens is that ubuntu complains that it can't find the broadcom firmware and then I get acall stack that looks like it has to do with initializing the card anyway
[05:35] <cdm10> manzoor, do you just want your VM to have Internet access?
[05:35] <xubuntu> necesito ayuda
[05:35] <moderator> Underscores__: I'm a little confused. Is this error during the ubuntu setup?
[05:35] <cdm10> !es | xubuntu
[05:35] <Underscores__> moderator, yes, during the livecd's boot time
[05:35] <xuserx> i installed oracle java 7 and now i have a error and i cant install any programs using software center
[05:36] <cdm10> GhostWolf, while this is not really what it's for, and it's a rather poor tool, you may want to try LibreOffice Drawing. It might be a little bit easier than GIMP to learn for simple jobs.
[05:36] <xuserx> how can i remove oracle java7 ?
 no. it has to detect the WIFI connections
[05:36] <GhostWolf> cdm10, ok well i might try that if this person in #gimp can't help
[05:36] <violinappren> xuserx: pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get install -f
[05:37] <violinappren> !pastebin | xuserx
[05:37] <cdm10> manzoor, may I ask why?
[05:37] <moderator> Underscores__: Aha, and the broadcom device is physically unremovable I assume? If so, BIOS may be your only way... or maybe try another ubuntu ver and upgrade after it's installed. I'm not sure why the wireless device is giving you a panic error without knowing more...
[05:37] <kulhas> xuserx: did you try to setup openjdk as default? and uninstall depends how you install it I think
[05:37] <Underscores__> moderator, that's more or less the case
[05:37] <Underscores__> I think the wireless chipset is integrated into the machine
[05:37] <xuserx> i cant remove oracle java 7
[05:37] <cmcintosh> i would take the drive out and put it into a pc that has a working cdrom
[05:37] <xuserx> i have a error
[05:38] <cipher__> xuserx, irony at its finest.
[05:38] <cdm10> xuserx, how was this java installed?
[05:38] <kulhas> xuserx: how did you install it ?
 i want to know weather its possible in virtual machine or not ?
[05:38] <violinappren> xuserx: open a terminal, type: sudo apt-get install -f
[05:38] <xuserx> ok
[05:38] <violinappren> manzoor: why ask again if you got an answer already?
[05:39] <cdm10> violinappren, I was just making sure he was all set.
[05:39] <cdm10> manzoor, it is, but only in certain VM software, and only if it's USB -- and even then, I'm not really qualified to help you.
[05:39] <kulhas> where is the logs of oracle java 7 ?
[05:39] <xubuntu> hello I need help, I have no sound. I do not speak English I have to be with the translator and no one in the other chats
[05:39] <Underscores__> moderator, I? will see if I can disable the offending card
 ya i know  i am just answering cdm10
[05:40] <xubuntu> hello I need help, I have no sound. I do not speak English I have to be with the translator and no one in the other chats
[05:40] <moderator> Underscores__: Best of luck! If I come up with more ideas, I'll let you know.
[05:40] <violinappren> !sound | xubuntu
[05:40] <Underscores__> I'll keep on trucking
[05:40] <Underscores__> Trying to get the neighbor lady converted to Ubuntu
  <violinappren> thanks
[05:41] <firefish5000> Can anyone help me chose some OSs to try, Ones different from the usual remixes?
[05:41] <violinappren> !ot | firefish5000
[05:41] <abc1> Anyway, Ubuntu used be a great OS. About three years ago. Bye.
[05:42] <moderator> Oprtz: Are you asking about different versions of Ubuntu? If so, what are you looking for in your distro.
[05:42] <xuserx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/970729/
[05:42] <xuserx> can you help me?
[05:42] <firefish5000> sorry, thanks.
[05:42] <cocolos> CUDA error: no CUDA-capable device is detected? I just installed 4.2 sdk and such and drivers what did I do wrong? I restarted X and such
[05:43] <Underscores__> Is there a way I can blacklist the broadcom driver at boottime from the livecd?
[05:43] <foolsh> cocolos: try 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' and reboot
[05:43] <moderator> Underscores__: I'm not really sure. I would expect not, short of something along the lines of custom firmware or physically pulling it...
[05:44] <cocolos> foolsh: thanks let me try
[05:44] <atdiehm> 12.04 is substantially slower on my netbook than 11.10 was.  is 12.04 simply past where netbook specs make sense? or should I try removing unity and running xfce or something?
[05:44] <cdm10> atdiehm, have you tried Unity 2D?
[05:44] <violinappren> xuserx: try: sudo dpkg -r oracle-java7-installer
[05:44] <Underscores__> moderator, perhaps if I dig into the image I might be able to fix it; I mean it is on a USB key
[05:44] <Khmerog> what isLinux RPM file?
[05:45] <atdiehm> cdm10, I'd expect that to be the default on a machine with integrated graphics….. let me check
[05:45] <violinappren> Khmerog: packages for redhat/fedora/centos
[05:45] <cdm10> Khmerog, RPM is a software package file for RPM-based operating systems, of which Ubuntu is not one.
[05:45] <Khmerog> im downloading open office for ubuntu im trying to install it using the terminal as practise
[05:45] <Khmerog> ohh
[05:45] <Underscores__> Which reminds me, I need to get the x86_64 version of 12.04; I hosed my installation during an upgrade from 9.10, haha
[05:45] <violinappren> Khmerog: will NOT work on ubuntu/debian
[05:45] <Khmerog> there is RPM or DEB
[05:45] <xuserx> the same error
[05:45] <cdm10> atdiehm, nope, integrated graphics can run Compiz -- but badly. You may have to manually try Unity 2D.
[05:45] <atdiehm> way better
[05:46] <atdiehm> 11.10 didn't do that?
[05:46] <Underscores__> Isn't there a tool called alien for dealing with RPMs?
[05:46] <Underscores__> ?alien
[05:46] <Underscores__> Err, looks like I don't know ubottu's syntax
[05:46] <teicah> how do I zoom desktop in precise?
[05:46] <moderator> Underscores__: Commands are preceded with "!"
[05:47] <moderator> !alien > Underscores__
[05:47] <Underscores__> !alien
[05:47] <cdm10> !ccsm | teicah
[05:47] <cocolos> foolsh: nothing :(
[05:47] <atdiehm> the 2d-shell process uses the same ram as compiz though :-p
[05:47] <cdm10> atdiehm, it's not the RAM that's the issue -- glad I could help though :)
[05:47] <violinappren> xuserx: try with adding: --no-triggers
[05:47] <atdiehm> cdm10, sure… just was making note
[05:48] <cdm10> teicah, I hope that helps you -- it's a bit hard to navigate that tool but you can enable desktop zooming there.
[05:48] <sanduz2> why does traceroute6 (ubuntu default) not work but traceroute does? it gives me 'unknown host' ...im guessing its working ipv6? maybe not... either way, man has no info on it
[05:48] <Cantide> how do i add a shortcut to the launcher via the command line?
[05:48] <atdiehm> I have a few family members that will probably call me as they get prompted to upgrade, and then wonder why their machines are slower…. so having the answer is good
[05:48] <Cantide> i installed something that doesn't show up in the dash
[05:48] <foolsh> cocolos: pastebin the output of 'lspci'
[05:48] <xuserx> violinappren: xuserx: try with adding: --no-triggers > how can i do that?
[05:49] <cocolos> foolsh: http://pastebin.com/vF22V85v
[05:49] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, I need some help getting Ubuntu 10.10 to pick up my external hard drive. Nothing's showing up in dmesg
[05:49] <teicah> How do I change the background from the command line?  10x
[05:50] <moderator> IsmAvatar: Does lsusb show the device?
[05:50] <xuserx> anyu ideas how can i remove oracle jdk7?
[05:50] <violinappren> xuserx: sudo dpkg -r --no-triggers oracle-7-installer
[05:50] <xuserx> any*
[05:50] <xuserx> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching oracle-7-installer
[05:51] <violinappren> xuserx: what was the pastebin link you gave before?
[05:51] <xuserx> any ideas?
[05:51] <IsmAvatar> moderator: no. It shows 8 things, 4 of them are usb hubs, one's the mouse, one's an I/O Interconnect, one's the printer, and one looks like it's probably the speakers
[05:51] <foolsh> cocolos: nvidia GTX 470?
[05:51] <cocolos> foolsh: yes
[05:51] <xuserx>  sudo apt-get install -f http://paste.ubuntu.com/970729/
[05:52] <moderator> IsmAvatar: This is probably not a good sign. Is it detectable on other OS environments? If so, I may have a suggestion.
[05:52] <violinappren> xuserx: sudo dpkg -r --no-triggers oracle-java7-installer
[05:52] <IsmAvatar> moderator: I'm listening
[05:52] <Eh4ck> hola
[05:53] <xuserx>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:53] <xuserx> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:53] <xuserx>  oracle-java7-installer
[05:53] <xuserx> the same error
[05:53] <moderator> IsmAvatar: This may not work, but sometimes gdm interfers with the detection of usb devices. Try doing this: "sudo service gdm restart", then see if lsusb lists it. NOTE: This will log you off and restart your session, so save everything first.
[05:53] <cocolos> foolsh: any ideas?
[05:54] <foolsh> cocolos: Did the nvidia developer driver 'devdriver_4.2_linux_32_295.41.run' install smoothly?  You have to drop to a tty console and stop gdm first before you install it.
[05:54] <cocolos> yea it did
[05:54] <dragons> anyone familiar with virtualbox?
[05:54] <cdm10> dragons, somewhat
[05:54] <cocolos> dragons: a little
[05:54] <cdm10> dragons: So, between a little, and somewhat, it looks like you're in the right place :P
[05:54] <IsmAvatar> moderator: I rebooted the system with the device plugged in, and it did not pick it up. I assume that's the same as restarting gdm, unless it loads the device after gdm
[05:55] <dragons> i have a problem running pecise pangolin and installed virtualbox 4.1 from the repositories, i cannot see the usb devices, and i am part of the vboxusers group
[05:55] <moderator> IsmAvatar: This is not the same.
[05:55] <kookaboorra> ZTE 3G USB modem constantly being disconnected on Ubuntu and disappear, I've to remove the USB modem and stick it back, but there's no problem on Windows, any ideas why is this happening?
[05:55] <cdm10> dragons, I've never used USB devices in VirtualBox, so I doubt I can help you -- but in particular, what sort of device are you using?
[05:55] <IsmAvatar> moderator: ok, I will try
[05:56] <dragons> i am just trying to connect a usb hard drive.
[05:56] <moderator> IsmAvatar: This is just from my experience messing around with USB devices not detected by Ubuntu. It may or may not fix your problem.
[05:57] <cdm10> dragons, you could connect that hard drive to the host, and use a virtualbox shared folder to share its contents with the virtual machine..
[05:57] <IsmAvatar> moderator: gdm: unrecognized service
[05:57] <moderator> IsmAvatar: Are you logging in with GNOME?
[05:57] <dragons> i didn't think of that.. i could do that..
[05:57] <IsmAvatar> moderator: no, just whatever's default with ubuntu 10.10
[05:58] <IsmAvatar> unity
[05:58] <IsmAvatar> etc
[05:58] <foolsh> cocolos: pastebin 'lsmod' and the file '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[05:58] <violinappren> xuserx: rm sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-java7-installer.postinst
[05:58] <violinappren> xuserx: then try last command again
[05:59] <IsmAvatar> moderator: I guess the answer you're looking for then is 'lightDM'?
[06:00] <moderator> IsmAvatar: I'm not too familiar with lightDM, if that's what you're using... so there is no guarantee my potential fix would work restarting that manager. This is only for users that use gdm and can't detect usb devices.
[06:01] <dragons> any one have fun this 5 de mayo?
[06:01] <cocolos> foolsh: http://pastebin.com/ntx5DKWz http://pastebin.com/rhvK45zq
[06:01] <violinappren> dragons:  did you enable USB in the VM settings? did it prompt to install extension pack?
[06:01] <rabbi1> gnome: Depends: swfdec-mozilla but it is not going to be installed
[06:01] <cocolos> foolsh: can you pm me ill brb and will probably be hard to see what you wrote when I get back. Thanks.
[06:01] <dragons> it did.
[06:01] <rabbi1> I am trying to install gnome,  i get ^ message ....
[06:02] <moderator> IsmAvatar: Am I wrong, or wasn't lightDM released for 11.10+?
[06:02] <xuserx> i sloved my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/121226/how-to-completely-remove-a-oracle-jdk-that-didnt-install-properly
[06:02] <violinappren> dragons: did you add a "filter" for your desired device in VM USB settings?
[06:02] <xuserx> thanks for help anyway
[06:02] <dragons> no
[06:02] <xuserx> resolved*
[06:02] <dragons> i cannot see the device in the list
[06:02] <IsmAvatar> modern: lightDM is in 11.10, yes. I'm not sure if it was in 11.04 too, but I think it was just 11.10+
[06:03] <dragons> which has shown up before automatically
[06:03] <violinappren> dragons: is it a mass storage device?  umounted?
[06:03] <moderator> IsmAvatar: And you said you're running 10.10...?
[06:03] <dragons> it is mounted to my Host OS, but virtualbox is not seen it, such that it seems that i would not be in the vboxusers group
[06:03] <dragons> but i am
[06:04] <IsmAvatar> moderator: shoot, I always say that, I'm really sorry. I meant 11.10
[06:04] <moderator> IsmAvatar: >.< No problem, you can see why I was confused.
[06:04] <IsmAvatar> yes, of course
[06:04] <violinappren> dragons: umount it, add a filter for it in USB settings, then right click on USB icon on the VM window (bottom right) and click on the device name
[06:06] <IsmAvatar> moderator: when you say "can't detect usb devices", do you mean in general, or only certain usb devices? Because it works fine for picking up my iphone touch.
[06:06] <Chris_0076> meh, is there any way to remove the dumb black bar in 12.04 (the scroll over text) ?
[06:09] <dragons> brb, rebooting machine
[06:13] <Dragons> ok, needed the reboot for some reason to have the settings from the group to take effect on virtualbox
[06:13] <cdm10> Dragons: When in doubt, turn it off and on again :)
[06:13] <Dragons> ;)
[06:14] <Dragons> weird, cause i did kill any processes, and shut down virtualbox all together..
[06:14] <IsmAvatar> moderator: thanks for trying to help, it's really appreciated, however, I was able to get it to work by shuffling around some of my USB devices and plugging it in another slot.
[06:17] <Dragons> what window manager do you guys have/prefer?
[06:18] <moderator> IsmAvatar: np
[06:23] <_fnord> After upgrading to ubuntu 12.04 my laptop sometimes doesn't boot, what can I do?
[06:23] <kapz> Hi, how do I make the wine apps theme the same as my gnome theme? thnaks
[06:23] <kapz> _fnord, what happens ?
[06:24] <cdm10> kapz, just from a quick googling, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easily-get-wine-apps-to-match-your-gtk-theme/
[06:24] <_fnord> It powers on and the fan turns on, but the screen remains blank
[06:24] <cdm10> kapz, not sure if that'll still work, but give it a shot..
[06:24] <kapz> cdm10, yeah that didn't work....I think it's old..
[06:25] <cdm10> kapz, all the articles I see are from 2010 -- and from a quick glance it looks they they just handle colors -- so I don't think I can help you there.
[06:25] <kapz> thnaks just the same :)
[06:26] <kapz> *thanks
[06:28] <pp43> hello
[06:28] <kapz> _fnord check the syslog files from /var /log...
[06:28] <pp43> where to get a proxy list?
[06:28] <pp43> i cannot find anyone that works
[06:30] <kapz> does anyone know of a system tray plugin for evolution?
[06:31] <cdm10> kapz, it should plug into the messaging menu.
[06:32] <_fnord> kapz what am I looking for? It doesn't appear to show anything from before my successful boot. Note that I didn't even get the Acer boot screen up
[06:36] <PredaGR> hello people, I would like to use the sun-java6-jdk which has been moved to partner repository as I read, I tried something from help.ubuntu.com but it did not work, tried and went manually to the repository and yet I see the files there but they are not in the package list
[06:36] <PredaGR> it is for Lucid
[06:37] <alankila> PredaGR: it is required nowadays to download the jdk from oracle.
[06:37] <alankila> I typically just decompress it under Desktop and then cp -sv everything under bin to my own ~/bin
[06:39] <ZeloZelos> is there a disk tool for defragging?
[06:39] <PredaGR> linux does not need defragging
[06:40] <ZeloZelos> ah ok
[06:40] <alankila> ZeloZelos: as it happens, there exist e4defrag and xfs_fsr for ext4 and xfs, and btrfs supports rebalancing and defragmenting, depending on need
[06:40] <cdm10> ZeloZelos, PredaGR, this isn't completely true -- but it gets fragmented in a noticeable way much less often. There IS now a defragging tool included in Ubuntu for ext4.
[06:40] <PredaGR> thanks alankila, will try that, but it looks ugly... love APT works
[06:41] <Ravasclavas> now who want to do some bank hacking
[06:41] <alankila> but there is no need to defrag in 99 % cases. Only when you run with very little space for long periods do your files get hopelessly fragmented, maybe.
[06:41] <irenicus09> Ravasclavas: I wanna hax-r u
[06:41] <irenicus09> :P
[06:41] <PredaGR> since which release?
[06:41] <ZeloZelos> cdm10,  what is the program or how do i start it?
[06:42] <Ravasclavas> any body want to hack a bank with me
[06:42] <irenicus09> Ravasclavas: u missed what I just said Lol
[06:42] <irenicus09> n--b
[06:42] <Dr_willis> ZeloZelos,  why do you even think you need to 'defrag'
[06:43] <ZeloZelos> Dr_willis, i have never done it, and just finished the windows partition
[06:43] <ZeloZelos> its maintenance day..how ever u spell it
[06:44] <alankila> ZeloZelos: you can probably use e4defrag to report you the fragmentation degree of your files. I run a fairly full linux partition in one VM and thought that would be fragmented for sure. Gave me fragmentation score of 1 out of 100
[06:44] <ZeloZelos> backups, cleaning out the cobwebs etc
[06:44] <kapz> cdm10, no it does not...I am using gnome-shell
[06:44] <cdm10> ZeloZelos, try running sudo e4defrag -c /dev/your-disk-here (replace your-disk-here with wherever your disk is...)
[06:45] <Dr_willis> ZeloZelos,  ive used linux for years.. and never needed to defrag... ever. ;)
[06:45] <alankila> After a defrag run e4defrag gives score of 0
[06:45] <cdm10> ZeloZelos, that should let you know whether you need to defrag. Though it's a relatively new tool, and I suspect its scoring is a little silly.
[06:45] <cdm10> Dr_willis, I've had some significantly screwy files, mostly from torrents and expanding VM images, which almost INEVITABLY get fragmented if they're not preallocated.
[06:45] <ZeloZelos> kk thank you cmd10 n Dr_willis
[06:45] <Dr_willis> ZeloZelos,  I think its more of a 'windows habbit sneaking into your linux ussage' ;)  theres a lot of 'windows mindset' things that just dont apply to linux
[06:45] <scar3crow> linux has a defrag util now?
[06:46] <cdm10> scar3crow, for some filesystems.
[06:46] <scar3crow> ext4?
[06:46] <alankila> scar3crow: false, xfs has had a defrag for like decade. But it's useless there too, I imagine.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> isent preallocated the default for ext4 these days
[06:46] <cdm10> Dr_willis, you mean extents?
[06:46] <matelot> 12.04+Unity: How to add a launcher (to Dash)  that launches Some_app
[06:46] <cdm10> Dr_willis, for something like a VM image file, which will expand bytes at a time, that does very little.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> that may be.. i  just recall some stuff like that from the ext4 wiki.
[06:46] <kapz> ext4 takes care of file fragmentation on the fly...no need to defrag it.
[06:47] <alankila> kapz: no it does not. Maybe you think of HFS+?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> of course ext4 has only been in  common ussage for what 2 years now?
[06:47] <cdm10> kapz, not really true...
[06:47] <scar3crow> kapz: that's what I thought... ty
[06:47] <RadPal> Quick question please: I have a new [HP dv6 i7 8GB RAM], should I install the 64bit version of 12.04 LTS?
[06:47] <cdm10> kapz, It certainly does some things in order to prevent fragmentation in the first place, but it won't defrag on the fly.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> RadPal,  i alwyas go 64bit on hardare that supports 64bit
[06:47] <alankila> ext4 is *worst* with slowly appending files it seems. e4defrag reports those files as examples of ones that are fragmented
[06:47] <alankila> I imagine VM files, if you use disk files or sparse files, are at risk
[06:47] <cdm10> alankila, ouch
[06:48] <cdm10> alankila, sparse files are pretty much by definition fragmented... fun stuff...
[06:48] <RadPal> Dr_willis, thank you!
[06:48] <cdm10> RadPal, there are very few reasons not to go 65-bit nowadays
[06:48] <cdm10> ...except that 65-bit doesn't exist.
[06:48] <irenicus09> anyone knows if btrfs is stable enough for usage?
[06:48] <cdm10> *64-bit.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> i cant think of any reason to not go 64bit...
[06:48]  * alankila idly wonders what his disk files look like as they are on xfs
[06:48] <RadPal> cdm10: :), thanks.
[06:48] <cdm10> irenicus09, I may be making this up entirely, but I read that btrfs doesn't have a fsck tool yet... which seems... silly.
[06:48] <matelot> Question - 12.04+Unity: How to add a launcher (to Dash)  that launches Some_app
[06:48] <Fyodorovna> irenicus09, apparently not from channel chatter and the web.
[06:49] <alankila> irenicus09: it is clearly approaching the point. I have a 2 TB disk around 85 % full of btrfs in backup usage, it gets a hammering every night and so far hasn't oopsed my kernel. Occasionally I've even restored files from it and they have been the same files I put in
[06:49] <Fyodorovna> irenicus09, At least as a primary setup anyway.
[06:50] <cdm10> alankila, that's really the measure of a solid filesystem -- getting the same files out as you put in :)
[06:50] <alankila> so at least btrfs passes a smoke test. I tried it over a year ago and got immediate failures with it, so back then it wouldn't have been ready
[06:50] <Dr_willis> matelot,  one way. make a custome .desktop file for your app in question.
[06:50] <irenicus09> alankila: cool..but I'm on ext4 dunno what benefit I'd get from switching to btrfs...my hard drive space is some what limited though
[06:50] <cdm10> irenicus09, from what I've heard, especially for typical desktop operation, it's pretty much the same performance-wise.
[06:50] <irenicus09> hmm
[06:52] <alankila> I worry about the incessant fragmentation of things like disk image files or logs that might result from the copy-on-write nature though.
[06:53] <alankila> btrfs tends to turn a write over one block on filesystem into a sequence of writes which must replace its internal tree nodes and the root node
[06:54] <alankila> and every one of the replaced blocks becomes two points of fragmentation
[06:54] <cocolos> I get You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run nvidia-xconfig as root), and restart the X server.
[06:54] <cocolos> I tried and restarted and still nothing
[06:54] <cdm10> alankila, I guess that's what the defrag tool is for :P I never really thought of that as a consequence of COW filesystems.
[06:55] <cdm10> alankila, you can probably tell I haven't thought too hard about 'em in that case :P
[06:55] <alankila> cdm10: yeah... maybe it deals with appending better though.
[06:56] <cocolos> I just installed new drivers and sdk
[06:56] <alankila> but replacing blocks is a pain point for it, and sqlite3 databases ran by firefox were famously found to be fragmented to like 1000 pieces after a while.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  how did you install the drivers?
[06:56] <alankila> copy-on-write is great, but this is a cost to it
[06:57] <cdm10> alankila, ugh, browser sqlite databases can get fragmented internally to the file AND externally in the fs. Though I can't exactly say "That's happened to me and it's killed my performance!" so maybe it didn't cause any real issues.
[06:57] <cocolos> Dr_willis: I installed the toolkit then I went to tty to install drivers
[06:58] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  so you used the self installing .run drivers from the nvidia site?
[06:58] <cocolos> Dr_willis: yea
[06:58] <Chris_0076> hey guys, why is the scroll over text in 12.04 just a solid black box? >.>
[06:58] <alankila> cdm10: what can I say. Filesystems are ugly, but we can't exactly go without it. There will probably be a way to turn the cow off for some files specifically, or maybe a background defragmenter that just fixes the files quietly
[06:58] <Chris_0076> I have been looking and looking for a way to change it and there is nothin
[06:58] <Chris_0076> thing*
[06:59] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  you did try the drivers from the repos and the PPA's first?
[06:59] <cocolos> nope
[06:59] <cocolos> Dr_willis: How do I do that
[06:59] <LukeNukem> Hello, i have photoshop running under wine but in firefox if i copy image i cant paste onto photoshop
[06:59] <Dr_willis> cocolos,   the addational-drivers tool, (jockey-gtk) installs them from the repos.. thats how one normally installs them.
[06:59] <LukeNukem> so i have to save and then open it..such a pain, any fix :(
[06:59] <cdm10> Chris_0076, what do you mean by scroll-over text?
[06:59] <alankila> it would be lovely to fuse databases with the filesystem such that the filesystem actually has access to the records in the table, and is responsible for organizing them. This would allow for greater degree of intelligence, at cost of basically deciding that database tables have but one system-sanctioned format.
[07:00] <LukeNukem> Hi Dr_willis
[07:00] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  id have that .run program remove its drivers, and try the  jockey tool first
[07:00] <cocolos> oh
[07:00] <Dr_willis> using .run drivers from nvidia - another example of 'windows training/mindset' :)
[07:00] <cocolos> Sorry but where would I get the jockey ones?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Actually on this box - they were installed automatically i thiought
[07:00] <Chris_0076> mouse over text, scroll over text, hover over text, description text, floating text, the stuff that pops up if you old your mouse pointer over something text
[07:00] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  you run jockey-gtk and click... ;)
[07:00] <Chris_0076> it is just a black box for me
[07:00] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  in the menus its called 'addational-drivers' i belive
[07:01] <Chris_0076> albeit a bit rounded
[07:01] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  you DONT have one of those dual-gpu optimus  setups do you?
[07:01] <cdm10> Chris_0076, without any text?
[07:01] <Chris_0076> the text is black
[07:01] <cocolos> Dr_willis: no
[07:01] <Chris_0076> and the box is maybe 2 shades lightter
[07:01] <Chris_0076> lighter*
[07:01] <Dr_willis> thats a good thing. ;)
[07:01] <LukeNukem> any fix for my issue??
[07:01] <cdm10> Chris_0076, well that's rather unhelpful... on mine, the text is white. Let me see if that's easily configurable..
[07:02] <cdm10> Chris_0076, by any chance is your install an upgrade from a previous release?
[07:02] <traceii> i need help getting sun-java6-jre
[07:02] <Chris_0076> it is
[07:02] <Chris_0076> well, sort of
[07:02] <Dr_willis> using 12.04 with HUD --> hit alt key -> type 'add'   the 'addational-drivers' item shows up. :) makes it easy to find. Yea for hud.
[07:02] <Chris_0076> it is a clean install
[07:02] <Chris_0076> with a /home partition
[07:02] <MarkiteN> Guys, need a little help here, I'm on 12.04 desktop, successfully connected to the internet using wvdial for my CDMA modem, I can browsing using firefox, and even I can go to this chat room
[07:02] <cdm10> Dr_willis, that's not HUD, you'd need to hit Super/WinKey -- or you just search items in current app's menu!
[07:03] <irenicus09> alankila: why is it that I get a score of 0 on everything while using e4defrag Lol.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> cdm10,   alt key is hud - i belive.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> super key = dash
[07:03] <MarkiteN> but in my Network applet said that network is disconnected
[07:03] <cdm10> Dr_willis, right, but that searches the current app's menus, not the entire system.
[07:03] <alankila> irenicus09: it means ext4's internal fragmentation management policies have worked so well for you that only a few files on your system are fragmented.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> hud here searched all menus and system
[07:03] <cocolos> Dr_willis: first I need to unistall current drivers? can I do that over ssh
[07:03] <irenicus09> alankila: c00l :p
[07:04] <cdm10> Dr_willis, really... I thought that's what dash was for...
[07:04] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  i dont use the .run drivers. I think they do have some uninstall option. You might not need to remove them.. but its a good idea
[07:04] <cocolos> ok
[07:04] <MarkiteN> so the emphaty chat client isn't working..
[07:04] <Dr_willis> cdm10,  hud i belive is integerated witht he global menu stuff. so it  has a farther reach then dash
[07:04] <cocolos> Dr_willis: I tried running jockey but it error out
[07:04] <cdm10> Chris_0076, ech, I can't find anywhere to configure the text color -- try going to Appearance and changing the theme, maybe if you change it back it'll reset the color?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  if you are ssh'd in -  you could use the jockey-text tool.
[07:05] <cocolos> Dr_willis: Downloading package indexes failed, note I am on 10.04
[07:05] <gua> ubuntu-recommended filesystem for an external hard drive that will only be used with linux?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  or just try installing the nvidia-current package.
[07:05] <cocolos> I was doing it over vnc
[07:05] <Chris_0076> cdm10, there are like 4 themes to pick from, and I have already tried them all
[07:05] <Chris_0076> nothing fixes it
[07:05] <cdm10> gua, ext4 will do fine
[07:05] <alankila> gua: I believe the safe choice today is ext4, it is used a whole lot
[07:05] <Chris_0076> same blac
[07:05] <Chris_0076> black*
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> cocolos: or if you're installing nvidia drivers, just install nvidia-current :)
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> gua: is the hard drive flash based?
[07:06] <cdm10> Chris_0076, I'm not sure i can think of anything else -- but there's probably a setting somewhere, I just can't think where.
[07:06] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/131617/how-do-i-use-the-hud    Hud-Fu Skills. ;)
[07:06] <Chris_0076> yeah, I have been looking for the past hour
[07:06] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: thanks giving it a shot now
[07:06] <Chris_0076> it seems as though they have hidden all the appearance settings pretty well in 12.04
[07:06] <Chris_0076> ...
[07:06] <newby> when using the server version of precise is  it possible to get proper vnc access (especially since gnome-shell uses hw/opengl, maybe with virtualGL)?
[07:07] <Chris_0076> because ofc they can't just be in "appearance"
[07:07] <cdm10> Dr_willis, looks to me like that only searches the menu of the app you're in! It's dash that searches your system's apps. Unless somehow we're both running different Ubuntus :P
[07:07] <Moc> nvidia driver on 12.04 acting weird when used with a docking station
[07:07] <gua> ActionParsnip: no
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> newby: what do you need to access the system to achieve? You probably don't need vnc
[07:07] <gua> so ext3/ext4?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> gua: Ext3 or Ext4 will be fine then :)
[07:07] <Moc> I need to boot my laptop out of the dock since I put 12.04 or else x window start in failsafe mode
[07:08] <Dr_willis> cdm10,  it definatly does not search just the app you are in.. Those entries are at the top however i noticed. if theres any similer
[07:08] <cdm10> Dr_willis, whoops, looks like I was wrong.
[07:08] <newby> ActionParsnip, we have a java gui program at work which is used with gnome2 over vnc/network and i wanted to make sure it will work before i suggest an update
[07:08] <Dr_willis> cdm10,  :) in xchat now. alt -> 'add' ->    >> Hardware > addational-drivers   (first item)
[07:08] <gua> ActionParsnip: here's hoping we can get btrfs to the general usability stage before long
[07:09] <cdm10> Dr_willis, weirdly, I don't see that, though I do see things for other apps. Oh well.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> we have gone from menu bars -> big menu buttons (like in Chrome and other browsers) to hiding menus to HUD ;)
[07:09] <cocolos> ActionParsnip: I get this now: CUDA error: CUDA driver version is insufficient for CUDA runtime version
[07:10] <newby> ActionParsnip, the users connect from windows 7 desktops over vnc to a gnome2 session in which the java gui program is used
[07:10] <Dr_willis> hud cant do math. :)  just tried alt 4+4
[07:10] <cdm10> Dr_willis, what I found completely bizarre was that apparently an auto-hiding dock by default was too mysterious and confusing for regular users, according to the UI designers, but hiding all the menus by default unless you mouseover them was just fine.
[07:10] <irenicus09> Dr_willis: next we'll have virtual..3D menu bars that works just when u think you'll need it :P
[07:10] <cdm10> Menus in 3D! Think of the possibilities!
[07:11] <Dr_willis> cdm10,  i always set the panel to never hide. :)  people have been trained to know menus are at the top..  but not that apps are at the left...
[07:11] <scar3crow> compiz "used" to have 3d menus and windows :P
[07:11] <Dr_willis> that metisse (sp?) window manager had weird 3d window features. :)
[07:11] <cdm10> scar3crow, still does with ccsm, but really just flat windows textured onto a 3D surface.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> but i think its really dead these days
[07:11] <LukeNukem> wait what
[07:11] <newby> ActionParsnip, do you know if vnc will work with gnome-shell?
[07:12] <LukeNukem> where dafuq is the shape tool in gimp O_O
[07:12] <scar3crow> cdm10: yeah but it looks cool
[07:12] <cdm10> Dr_willis, only mac users, I'd think... and not those new to computers at all... actually, autohiding dock by default would be silly, but I wish we had that behavior from older Unity (I think) which only autohides the dock if there's a window that also wants to be there.
[07:12] <cdm10> LukeNukem, what shape tool?
[07:12] <scar3crow> too bad I can't enable it with unity :(
[07:12] <Dr_willis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxsUKX6xXyE    metisse video - suprised compiz dident go this route
[07:12] <cdm10> scar3crow, Unity IS Compiz... download ccsm
[07:13] <scar3crow> kk
[07:13] <cocolos> Dr_willis: any idea on CUDA error: CUDA driver version is insufficient for CUDA runtime version?
[07:13] <LukeNukem> cdm10, to draw shapes
[07:13] <scar3crow> will try out your suggestion...
[07:13] <cdm10> LukeNukem, there is a path tool, but GIMP is really a raster graphics tool, not for making shapes.
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> newby: I don't use VNC mate, I think its a nasty protocol
[07:13] <Dr_willis> cocolos,  no clue. i dont use cuda.  the extendt of me using nvidia drivers - is i do a clean install.. run the jockey tool and install them from the repos.. done.
[07:13] <LukeNukem> cdm10, im trying to make a logo :3
[07:14] <LukeNukem> shits easier in PS ;o
[07:14] <cdm10> !language | LukeNukem
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> newby: http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx
[07:14] <cdm10> LukeNukem, seems like Inkscape is the better tool, though that's got a pretty steep learning curve.
[07:14] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: whats the best alternative if any to vnc?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> newby,  for vnc its 'best' to use as light a window manager/desktop as you can. since vnc can get slow real fast.. ;)
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: ssh, web interfaces that sort of thing
[07:14] <irenicus09> hmm
[07:15] <Dr_willis> ssh and x forwarding - handy. :)
[07:15] <LukeNukem> cdm10, ill stick to gimp, im gonna do some googling
[07:15] <newby> ActionParsnip, Dr_willis ok what would be a better alternative to vnc for Windows7 -> Gnome in precise
[07:15] <cdm10> ActionParsnip, that sure isn't an alternative to VNC...
[07:15] <scar3crow> ssh + Bhodi's virtual x script... woot!
[07:15] <Dr_willis> newby,   when i go windows -> linux via vnc. i normally set up a minimal desktop just for my vnc needs. using jwm, or icewm, or openbox or somthing very very basic.
[07:16] <cdm10> gnome-shell's animations will probably slow things waaayyy down. I don't know if you can disable them.
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: works here, i manage torrents, regular downloads, samba, updates and local media playback using those 2 methods
[07:16] <Dr_willis> newby,   i normally do NOT share the 'current visible desktop' with vnc in linux you do NOT have to share the current visible desktop. :) you could have a dozen+ seperate vnc sessions 'hidden' you can connect to
[07:16] <newby> Dr_willis, it doesnt need to be fancy, just fast and standard gnome stuff
[07:16] <alankila> I use vnc against a bunch of virtual machines, it's my management interface and so on. VNC sure can be annoyingly slow, especially something like kvm does not seem to even try to observe what goes on in the screen and send something optimal back in response
[07:16] <Dr_willis> newby,  'standard gnome shell' uses a lot of fancy effects..  its more about what apps you are running.
[07:17] <alankila> at least text consoles scroll astoundingly slowly.
[07:17] <cdm10> ActionParsnip, I get that it certainly works, but it's an alternative to VNC the way Lynx is an alternative to Firefox. The command-line is powerful, but if you want a GUI, you use VNC.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of neat things you can do with vnc - once you dig into it.
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: transmission and fatrat have nice web UIs which you can manage stuff with very well. There are also smartphone apps to manage via the same web ui
[07:18] <newby> Dr_willis, its a java GUI program for genomic sequence analysis which runns on gnome2 (idk which bindings it uses)
[07:18] <cdm10> newby, gnome-shell may not be what you're thinking it is... it's a totally redesigned UI with animation and such, looks nothing like Gnome 2 -- though there is a fallback classic mode.
[07:18] <neurre> can i upgrade from 11.04 straight to 12.04?
[07:18] <neurre> or do i need to go through 11.10?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: depends what you need. I can add and remove samba shareeditting smb.conf, much sleeker than VNCing on and using nautilus
[07:18] <cdm10> ActionParsnip, that's true, I don't know fatrat but Transmission's webUI is great.
[07:18] <alankila> newby: it may just use swing's native look-and-feel. That looks a lot like gtk2. Or it might be based on swt, which makes it far more dependent on actual libgtk
[07:18] <Flux_> what's the lightest DM for gnome 2(MATE)? as far as I can tell LightDM adds a bunch of dependencies for gnome 3. I want something lightweight that's easier than typing startx everytime I boot :P
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: fatrat can download non-torrent files for you :), it also manages torrents but there is no android app for fatrat yet, so I use transmission
[07:19] <cdm10> ActionParsnip, again, not saying that SSH doesn't fulfill the "remotely access computer" requirement, but that it doesn't fulfill the "remotely access computer's GUI" requirement, which many people do want.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> newby,  you can ssh in, start a vnc session via 'vncserver'  to use most any desktop or just a widnow maanger.
[07:19] <newby> alankila, which DE would you use for vnc with such a program`?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> cdm10: depends what you are accesing the gui to do, a lot of the time its not needed
[07:19] <Dr_willis> newby,  most apps dont need tobe ran on a 'full' gnome desktop. they should load the libs/services they need when they get started. but vnc can do gnome-2  decently well i recall
[07:20] <newby> Dr_willis, yes or with xinetd, but which session would be best on precise?
[07:20] <cdm10> At any rate -- I must leave, #ubuntu is worse than tvtropes for losing track of time.
[07:20] <alankila> newby: I don't actually use vnc in normal day, and I don't think the DE choice matters a whole lot as long as it's something basic and you turn off background and in general try to get very flat, easily compressible look
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Flux_: slim is pretty light, it's nothing to do with the desktop you use
[07:20] <Dr_willis> newby,  id just use 'openbox' or a single light wm.
[07:20] <Flux_> thanks I'll check it out :)
[07:20] <Dr_willis> newby,  unless you really want to share the current visible desktop.
[07:20] <nadr> With 12.04, where are repo priorities stored? /etc/apt/preferences doesn't exist but backports is obviously enabled but ignored and apt-cache policy reflects this
[07:21] <alankila> nadr: you may want the apt-pinning howto (hope this is not terrible advice, I'm not familiar with the backports)
[07:21] <newby> Dr_willis, nope i just need persistend sessions to survive a reconnect (the program usually runs for days for analysis)
[07:21] <Dr_willis> newby,  then you want to do the  'ssh in, start vncserver' route.
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> nadr: apt will just look at the version numbers afaik, i'm not aware of any preferences thing...
[07:21] <Dr_willis> that will let you have several hidden persistant sessions.
[07:21] <keule> hello ;)   german support?
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> !de
[07:22] <keule> ty
[07:22] <newby> Dr_willis, you mean the realvnc vnc4server?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> newby,  any of them. I tend to use tightvnc
[07:22] <Dr_willis> newby,  gnome's built in vnc is vino. that one shares the current desktop.
[07:22] <xuserx> can you help me ? i have ann error when i want to add a ppa using comand line error>>> Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~webupd8team/+archive/stable) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.
[07:22] <xuserx> my internet connection is working
[07:23] <scar3crow> vino is a cool proggie ;)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software
[07:23] <newby> Dr_willis, but can vino display the lightdm login ?
[07:23] <scar3crow> dunno...
[07:23] <Dr_willis> newby,  for a PERSISTANT session - you  do not want it showing the lightdm login. You ssh in, start the vncserver...
[07:23] <Dr_willis> newby,  and vino does not show lightdm as far as i know.
[07:24] <scar3crow> you could ssh in and THEN sudo lightdm...
[07:24] <Dr_willis> scar3crow,  that dosent really make sence.. ;)
[07:24] <scar3crow> hehe
[07:25] <Happy_Larry> hi
[07:25] <xuserx> can you help me?
[07:25] <newby> Dr_willis, optimal solution would be: user starts realvnc on windows 7 box and initiates connect -> server starts/reconnects vnc session to lightdm/running gnome (maybe over xinetd) -> user can check on progress in the gnome session/java gui program
[07:26] <nadr> newby: http://mlepicki.com/2011/10/remote-vnc-login-to-ubuntu-11-10/
[07:26] <scar3crow> anybody have any luck compiling proprietary intel gpu drivers?
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> xuserx: can you give the full output of: sudo apt-get update    please use a pastebin to host
[07:26] <newby> nadr: yes thats actually our current setup
[07:26] <Dr_willis> newby,  you need to somehow spawn the vnc server on the linux box first. other wise you cant reconnect. the only solutions ive seen to 'auto start'  vnc as needed. would remove the peristant desktop feature.
[07:27] <xuserx> ok
[07:27] <intore> hi, could someone help to authenticate against a server samba using ubuntu? i configured pam mount but it doesn't mount the user's home directory
[07:27] <Dr_willis> newby,  ive never seen a way to 'start a new.. OR reconnect'  method.
[07:27] <newby> Dr_willis, cant this be done with xinetd?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> newby,  xinitd methods ive seen start a new.. but disconnect when the user exits
[07:28] <Dr_willis> which is a critical issue with what you want to do.
[07:28] <Dr_willis> but thats how most window users 'expect' vnc to work. :)  but ive used vnc for years.. i like the persistant desktop feature.
[07:28] <xuserx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/970848/
[07:28] <Dr_willis> you can start a vnc session from rc.local if you wanted to.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> there might be some way to go both ways. but ive not messed with vnc much in the last 2 years
[07:29] <kayaman> hia ll
[07:29] <xuserx> can you help me?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> xuserx: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lkjoel/fix404/ubuntu/dists   only supports natty, I suggest you remove it
[07:30] <nadr> newby: could use NX
[07:30] <nadr> each user can have multiple sessions
[07:30] <xuserx> i cant add any ppa i have the same error
[07:30] <nadr> persistent sessions
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> xuserx: http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/  seems to have changed layout, I suggest you remove that too
[07:31] <xuserx> ok
[07:31] <Dr_willis> nadr,  that can work with vnc also. but freenx is faster :) which is a good point.. but harder to setup. :(
[07:31] <silv3r_m00n> I have a 4 mpbs internet connection but when I am upgrading ubuntu I get only around 0.5-1 mbps speed , is it because there is too much loan on upgrade servers ?
[07:32] <newby> Dr_willis, how about sth like this: http://pastebin.com/2iPfmDWH
[07:32] <xuserx> is sun java better than openjdk?
[07:33] <newby> nadr, yes but the server costs over 700 dollars?
[07:33] <alankila> xuserx: doubtful. Better for one purpose: android building that I know of
[07:33] <Dr_willis> newby,  try it and see is all i can say. i dont normally mess with making my own services. i ssh in, and start it. :)
[07:33]  * nikolja dobar jutar :)
[07:33] <iceroot> xuserx: no because oracle java is not FOSS
[07:33] <nadr> newby: there's a free version, or freenx
[07:33] <newby> Dr_willis, this works on 11.04, i dont know about 12.04
[07:33] <Dr_willis> Oracle seems to be doing its best to annoy all the java devs. ;)
[07:33] <xuserx> some web based applications dont work using openjdk
[07:33] <newby> nadr, did you use freenx server?
[07:33] <Dr_willis> newby,  and if your user closes the vncclient window. does it stay alive?
[07:34] <newby> Dr_willis, on 11.04: yes
[07:34] <nadr> naw I used NoMachine's free one
[07:34] <nadr> free as in beer
[07:34] <newby> Dr_willis, it shows gdm login and has persistent sessions per port
[07:35] <Dr_willis>  newby  i dont see how its changeing ports.. but i guess the user can just try to remer what port to go to.
[07:35] <newby> nadr, is that free for research like university too?
[07:35] <nadr> newby: I don't know the specifics
[07:35] <scar3crow> man, verbatim sure make crappy cd's
[07:36] <newby> Dr_willis, you can specify different ports in the xinetd conf, each port then will have its own persistent session
[07:36] <xuserx> how can i install openjdk 7 on ubuntu 12.04?
[07:36] <cocolos> how do I stop x via ssh ?
[07:37] <scar3crow> xuserx: google it... lots of ways
[07:37] <newby> cocolos, you could do sudo service lightdm/gdm restart, but that kills all running x sessions
[07:38] <cocolos> newby: restart: Unknown instance:
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> coolpro: could kill the PID
[07:39] <newby> Dr_willis, do you think such a setup would work on on precise with gnome fallback?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> newby,   if it works for you. good.. but id watch out that  could break in newer releases of ubuntu
[07:39] <Dr_willis> newby,  Im not sure the -query feature is enabled by default on percise
[07:39] <Dr_willis> !info xinted
[07:39] <newby> cocolos, hmm idk then, thats how i always do it locally from tty1 here
[07:40] <Dr_willis> newby,  also xinted has been  slowly getting phased out over the years. ;)
[07:40] <Dr_willis> xinEtd
[07:40] <cocolos> anyone know?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> i just run 'vncserver' :)
[07:40] <newby> aaaew
[07:41] <matelot> How can I have an app (say VirtualBox, start in workspace #2 ?
[07:41] <rabbi11> unable to mount EHDD: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/970861/
[07:41] <cocolos> how would I restart x via ssh?
[07:42] <Dr_willis> newby,  got xinetd intalled. got that example conf file in /etc/xinted/  now i forget how to make it actually run. ;)
[07:42] <newby> Dr_willis, xinetd 1:2.3.14-7ubuntu4
[07:43] <ranjan> matelot, Here is it http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/25/how-to-set-default-workspace-size-and-window-effects-in-gnome/
[07:43] <newby> Dr_willis, ok let me try it here too
[07:43] <matelot> ranjan: thanks, I remember devilspie now
[07:44] <ranjan> matelot, :)
[07:44] <Dr_willis> newby,  i rember why i always ssh in and just start vncserver by hand how. ;)
[07:45] <matelot> still not as easy as mac sigh
[07:45] <Dr_willis> never could get xinetd working right
[07:45] <Dr_willis> compiz has plugins i thought to force spefific apps in specific workspaces
[07:45] <Dr_willis> that tutorial is dated 2007, that was  a while back. :)
[07:46] <newby> Dr_willis: i got it working on 11.04 and its very stable, ressource friendly once its setup correctly
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> or you can use devilspie
[07:47] <Dr_willis> newby,  i must have somthing wrong in my xinetd sessions/configs then. i cant even get the vncserver to start
[07:49] <newby> Dr_willis, here is the /etc/xinetd.conf from the working 11.04 box with tigervnc on it http://pastebin.com/WqVRSLfM
[07:50] <silare> Trying to compile libatk for GIMP 2.8. I need libglib (v2.31) which I have... but it still picks up the current APT-installed 2.28. How do I make it stop doing that?
[07:50] <silare> I don't want to uninstall the APT-installed one because of dependency issues.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> silare: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[07:51] <silare> ActionParsnip: That would fix my packages... But would that make it so my compiled glib 2.32 is detected over my APT-installed glib 2.28?
[07:51] <auronandace> silare: installing gimp2.8 will cause dependency issues
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> silare: not sure, you should make a deb of your efforts so that the package manager recognisses the versioning
[07:52] <asterisk-Tester> hello, is tehre a way in ubuntu 11 using unity 2D when searching in the "dash home" to have by default the application set as search filter?
[07:52] <silare> auronandace: But what if I coimpile from source?
[07:52] <auronandace> silare: i'd assume the same
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> silare: if you compile from source in a package based OS you'll get issues if you don't make packages to gell with the rest
[07:53] <auronandace> silare: if in doubt, test in a vm
[07:53] <auronandace> silare: vms are awesome
[07:54] <silare> auronandace / ActionParsnip: I have tested them... unfortunately not in a VM before. I lost my entire GNOME earlier. ._. I think I got impatient. But I'll look around and see if there's a way. If I have to uninstall vala for a bit, it won't be the end of the world, I guess. ^_^;
[07:57] <StarryNight> anyone has a problem with rar under kubuntu 12.04 ltd?
[07:57] <StarryNight> lts?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> StarryNight,  a problem such as?
[07:57] <StarryNight> i get this error:
[07:57] <StarryNight> failed with the following error failed to locate program unrar in path
[07:57] <StarryNight> Using rar
[07:58] <ranjan> StarryNight, sudo apt-get install unrar
[07:58] <Dr_willis> you dont seem to have unrar installed. or your path is wrong
[07:58] <diegoviola> hi
[07:58] <Dr_willis> you are using what tool exactly to handle the rar files StarryNight ?
[07:58] <diegoviola> do you guys think the upcoming Windows 8 will drive users to Linux and Ubuntu?
[07:58] <StarryNight> i tried 7z
[07:59] <Dr_willis> StarryNight,  7z has its own rar-extension-plugin i think in the repos
[07:59] <Dr_willis> p7zip-rar - non-free rar module for p7zip
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> StarryNight: sudo apt-get install rar unrar unp p7zip-rar p7zip-full
[07:59] <ranjan> ActionParsnip, Exactly :)
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> diegoviola: wrong channel dude
[07:59] <Dr_willis> unp is your friend... ;)
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> unp should be default installed
[08:00] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[08:00] <diegoviola> ActionParsnip: sorry
[08:00] <ranjan> diegoviola, are you afraid of people moving to Linux and Ubuntu? :)
[08:01] <Dr_willis> people always hate whats 'new' - and try to hang on to the old....  then a year or 2 later.. they cant imagine going back to the old....
[08:01] <StarryNight> action i hve the full version installed already
[08:02] <newby> Dr_willis, hmm cant get it working on precise here too
[08:02] <Dr_willis> StarryNight,  with 'unp' you can do 'unp foo.rar' and it should unpack it.
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> StarryNight: also install the others...
[08:02] <diegoviola> ranjan: no, i actually want that to happen
[08:02] <Dr_willis> newby,  i THINK it has to do with that -query , but i cant find any logs to prove it. your Xvnc --lots-of-options command - does not seem to work when i call it directly as root either.
[08:03] <diegoviola> ranjan: why would i be afraid?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> newby,  im using tightvnc
[08:03] <diegoviola> ...
[08:03] <jenenliu> what
[08:03] <ranjan> diegoviola, just kidding :)
[08:03] <diegoviola> ranjan: :D
[08:03] <newby> Dr_willis, i tried it with vnc4server here
[08:05] <Uncle_> hi guys.... i cannot change my cpu frequency via the gnome-panel cpufreq applet.... the values are just stucked at 1,67 GHz and 1 GHz.... could you please give me an advice how to change it to "Ondemand"?
[08:06] <Magicovento> ciao a tutti
[08:07] <Magicovento> !list
[08:07] <stone_> i am the new comer
[08:08] <Uncle_> any ideas?
[08:11] <StarryNight> thanks dr willis it woked
[08:11] <Flynsarmy> hey guys when i select 'gnome classic' in 12.04 on login it just loads unity...why? gnome classic (no effects) works fine. I have 3d-enabled graphics drivers because unity uses them
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> StarryNight: easy stuff :)
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> StarryNight: you can even install unace-nonfree if you want the whole hog
[08:13] <StarryNight> i am still learning the stuff after 2 years
[08:16] <Flynsarmy> anyone?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: check the session file for the classic desktop.
[08:17] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: where do i find the session file?
[08:17] <lumbert> Hello I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 32bit desktop version onto a PC.  I'm currently trying to install via WUBI because my USB installation was a non-starter.  I'm getting an error at the end of the installer. http://paste.ubuntu.com/970903  Line 198 is the error I'm receiving in a critical error dialogue box.  Although line 195 seems to be a bigger issue.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: /usr/share/xsessions   a quick search would have shown you that...
[08:18] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: gnome-classic.desktop http://dpaste.com/743606/
[08:19] <bitonic> How can I start manually the "mail" applet that's in the unity panel (the one with the empath and thunderbird notifications) and the one for the volume?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: all I can suggest is check startup items
[08:21] <buteo-buteo>  /msg buteo-buteo !bot
[08:23] <druid__> ain
[08:24] <newby> Dr_willis: i got Xvnc working but i only get a gray bg, maybe i need a special xstartup for it?
[08:29] <StarryNight> i noticed if i try to do the kind of stuff (running a patch) under windows it would crash
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> newby: if you run: gnome-session &    via ssh, does it show up?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> newby: http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/26/how-to-connect-to-your-headless-server-with-vncgui/
[08:34] <lumbert> Hello I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 32bit desktop version onto a PC.  I'm currently trying to install via WUBI because my USB installation was a non-starter.  I'm getting an error at the end of the installer. http://paste.ubuntu.com/970903  Line 198 is the error I'm receiving in a critical error dialogue box.  Although line 195 seems to be a bigger issue.  I've attempted the installation
[08:34] <lumbert> twice, same error each time.  Not sure how else to proceed.
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lumbert: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded if you downloaded one?
[08:38] <cocolos> why doesn't sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop work?
[08:38] <cocolos> could it be because I am using ssh?
TuneUp Newsletter</name>, any suggestions on how to remove <name></name> ??
[08:40] <llutz> cocolos: sudo service gdm stop (if you are sure you're really running gdm, not lightdm or any other dm)
[08:41] <enzotib> mi3, sed 's/<[^>]*>//g'
[08:41] <cocolos> llutz: how can I find out what i am running
[08:41] <cocolos> when I do service gem stop I get stop: Unknown instance:
[08:41] <mi3> awesome, thankyou enzotib !!
[08:42] <llutz> cocolos: ps ax|grep dm
[08:42] <cocolos>  1225 ?        Ss     0:00 /bin/bash /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer
[08:43] <lumbert> ActionParsnip: WUBI did the download and the MD5 both, both times.
[08:44] <cocolos> llutz: any idea why I get unknown instance?
[08:44] <kn_> I have a USB Wireless adapter which gives me internet access, a linksys router, two laptops and network cables. How can I set up my network so the laptops don`t have to share the USB WLAN adaptor? Is it possible to use have one laptop use the USB WLAN adaptor and use the laptop as a proxy for the other one, so both can surf at the same time?
[08:44] <llutz> cocolos: service --status-all      check what "dm" instances are known
[08:45] <cocolos> llutz: I see it
[08:45] <cocolos>  [ ? ]  gdm
[08:48] <llutz> cocolos: i guess [ ? ] means, "state unknown" and thats why "stop" fails. try "sudo pkill gdm"
[08:49] <cocolos> hmm
[08:49] <cocolos> x server is still trunning
[08:52] <cocolos> llutz: any idea?
[08:52] <lumbert> ActionParsnip: I guess third times the charm, seems to have worked on attempt #3.
[08:53] <llutz> cocolos: not really, sry. i guess that failsafe-session works different from normal but i never had to deal with it
[08:53] <cocolos> ok thanks
[08:56] <intore> hi, someone knows how configure pam_mount.conf.xml?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> lumbert: nice
[08:59] <Guest95831> !ciao
[08:59] <Guest95831> !list
[09:00] <Guest95831> !list
[09:01] <lumbert> ActionParsnip blah, massive video corruption once in ubuntu. bleh.
[09:09] <mi3> hello
[09:10] <sae> mi3: hello
[09:10] <mi3> hello
[09:10] <iObey> Hi guys... what is a good IM client for ubuntu that can log into like everything.. I know it comes with Empathy but it  dose not log into skype or multiple twitter accounts
[09:11] <iObey> is there another one i cna use or a plugin for empathy or somthing for twitter and skype?
[09:11] <iObey> or maybe somthign to replace it but also apear in the unity bar at the top of the scrrne
[09:11] <Lasher> iObey, i don't know if there is something like that for skype
[09:11] <Lasher> and pidgin
[09:12] <mi3> I need some more suggestions on sed command, I am using wget to retrieve my gmail accounts, and it retrieves the titles of the unread email, say for example, 5 emails, however, I dont want it to show the title of the 1st email
[09:12] <linux> i am getting internal error while updating in 12.04
[09:13] <fg> Hi
[09:14] <fg> I installed "nvidia-current", but my graphic doesn't work. Anybody Can help me?
[09:14] <iObey> Lasher, ok.. pidgin is pretty much the same it seams ... it also dose not log into twitter
[09:15] <railsraider> hi, i have a service conflict wap-wsp and i am trying to use 9200 as the port for a mysql health check how do i remove it?
[09:15] <iObey> (dose it?)
[09:15] <Lasher> iObey, i use a combo of empathy and gwibber
[09:15] <dupondje> iObey: for twitter/facebook you need Gwibber
[09:15] <dupondje> :)
[09:16] <iObey> gwibber dose not support google+
[09:17] <ubuntufan> Hello Everyone
[09:18] <ubuntufan> I have a question. is everyone here not talking, or am I just not seeing things because I'm not registered or something
[09:19] <sae> ubuntufan: Hello
[09:19] <MarkiteN> ubuntufan: we were talking rite now
[09:21] <sae> railsraider: have you check via network tools to see which ports are being used by which service?
[09:22] <MarkiteN> network-manager still treat my wvdial connection as "Disconnected"..
[09:23] <kmels> hi, any hints on why "sudo chsh" and then doing "/bin/bash" does not work?
[09:24] <kmels> i mean, it does not persist
[09:24] <kmels> after restarting
[09:24] <fg> I installed "nvidia-current", but my graphic doesn't work. Anybody Can help me?
[09:24] <kmels> fg, download the drivers from nvidia website and compile from instructions
[09:24] <kmels> nvidia-current sometimes break my config.
[09:25] <TheM4ch1n3> kmels: why not use "su -l" ?
[09:25] <kmels> TheM4ch1n3, I think that's the reason. I will try and report back, thanks
[09:25] <TheM4ch1n3> fg: um, you may want to check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:26] <TheM4ch1n3> else try deleting it, if its a new ubuntu, or re-creating it
[09:27] <TheM4ch1n3> check for /proc/dri/0/ if its there, the kernel has 3D ready, its just checking X11 settings
[09:27] <fg> kmels: When i type "sudo sh Nvidia...." i get this error: "Verifying archive integrity... Error in check sums 1726264509 3744482395"
[09:27] <fg> TheM4ch1n3: How?
[09:27] <kmels> fg, then the file is corrupted (it wasn't downloaded correctly)
[09:27] <sae> kmels: have you checked /etc/passwd to see which shell is set for the user you are trying to the change the shell for?
[09:28] <TheM4ch1n3> open a console, login as root: "su -l" then "vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or just open the file read+write in an editor
[09:28] <TheM4ch1n3> ie, after root, you can: "xauth merge ~me/.Xauthority"  then "kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:29] <kmels> sae, I did now.. I think that will do it! brb
[09:29] <genesi1> buondì
[09:29] <TheM4ch1n3> replace me with your username, also try to avoid using xauth to allow root access to X11 (via magic cookie)
[09:30] <Stanley00> !who | TheM4ch1n3
[09:30] <kmels> :D it works
[09:30] <heikoheikoheiko> I'm looking for a easy to use program for simple video cutting, removing ads in tv recordings. I usually use avidemux for that, but it crashes on some of my files.
[09:31] <TheM4ch1n3> ubottu: ok, thanks
[09:31] <sae> heikoheikoheiko: have a look at openshot
[09:31] <lasers> heikoheikoheiko: Please hilight me. Thx. :O
[09:31] <heikoheikoheiko> sae: k, thx
[09:32] <fg> kmels: Thanks. How can i remove installed nvidia-current?
[09:32] <intore> hi, anyone has experience with samba and pam_mount?
[09:32] <sae> heikoheikoheiko: another one is kdenlive
[09:32] <kmels> fg, sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current, I think
[09:33] <marc^> hi! :)
[09:33] <marc^> i have an issue that i never had before with tomcat
[09:34] <fg> kmels: Thanks alot  your help:)
[09:34] <Celltech> Is ubuntu a debain base?
[09:34] <marc^> running ubuntu 10.04.4 lts on a vserver with jdk 1.6.0_32 and tomcat 6.0.35/7.0.27: i always getting this error msgs when i am executing startup.sh in catalina.out: WARNING: Unknown default host: localhost AND java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address
[09:35] <kmels> fg, no problem
[09:35] <sae> Celltech: yes
[09:35] <Celltech> sae: Awesome. I downloaded "yate" and now I need to configure it since nothing really on ubuntu works right after it's installed
[09:36] <sae> Celltech: what is "yate"?
[09:36] <marc^> there is definitely no other process running at 8080 but I tried 9080 and 8090 too, same problem. even changed <host name="... in tomcat server.xml nothing helped
[09:36] <Celltech> sae: Yet Another Telephony Engine
[09:37] <Celltech> sae: voip that can use your google talk
[09:37] <sae> Celltech: thanks :) got it
[09:38] <sae> Celltech: have you heard about Jitsi?
[09:38] <Celltech> sae: No. is it the same thing?
[09:38] <sae> marc^: could it be that you need to give your host a name?
[09:38] <Zeising_> Hm. I ask again since I didn't get an answer yesterday.  Is there any way to configure which desktop manager to use, without using dpkg-reconfigure and manually selecting?
[09:39] <Celltech> sae: Does it call to phones though? Thats what I'm looking for. internet to phone
[09:39] <Matrixiumn> Helo
[09:39] <sae> marc^: Have a look at /etc/resolv.conf
[09:40] <Guest29812> Is there a way to remove all of a certain file type in a specific directory and all subdirectories?
[09:40] <Guest29812> Or let me rephrase that
[09:40] <Guest29812> a certain command?
[09:40] <iceroot> Guest29812: find with rm
[09:40] <iceroot> Guest29812: also see #bash
[09:40] <sae> Celltech: It does support SIP, so you would be able to call phones, if you have an account with a SIP provider.
[09:41] <marc^> sae: in /etc/hosts is the hostname defined even with fqdn, in resolv.conf there are 3 dns servers
[09:41] <Celltech> sae: google talk is
[09:41] <TheM4ch1n3> Guest29812: find /some/dir -iname "*word*" -exec rm -i {} \;   # <- interactive, remove "-i" and replace with "-f" for silent
[09:41] <sae> Celltech: check out www.jitsi.org
[09:42] <Celltech> sae: i386 stable?
[09:43] <sae> Celltech: right stable
[09:43] <will> Hello
[09:43] <Celltech> sae: k downloading now installing
[09:44] <lost_and_unfound> Greetings, Ubuntu 11.10, I have a USB 3G modem. The modem works fine, however, once the system has been idle (e.g. 20min) I have to unplug the USB, replug it in and the start a new connection . It appears to be powersaving or timeout on the device. Any suggestions where to google/fiddle /
[09:44] <TheM4ch1n3> hi Guest94120
[09:44] <TheM4ch1n3> lost_and_unfound: that is your service procider, I have same problem
[09:45] <Guest94120> a
[09:45] <TheM4ch1n3> lost_and_unfound: *provider, though I may be wrong, it is resetting the device, and/or leaving it in a bad state, I only get it after my provider hangs up on me
[09:45] <lost_and_unfound> TheM4ch1n3: but the USB becomes totally unresponsive, hence it though it was device related rather than SP related
[09:46] <TheM4ch1n3> lost_and_unfound: so you mean other devices on the USB hub act up ?
[09:46] <lost_and_unfound> no, only the USB modem. I cannot use network manager to reconnect, have to unplug. Other usb devices like printer and keyboard still works fine
[09:47] <lost_and_unfound> TheM4ch1n3: ^^
[09:48] <elkng> is "Ubuntu for Android" entire OS ?
[09:48] <elkng> like cyanogenmod ?
[09:48] <TheM4ch1n3> ok, well I have had this problem often, I started to blame the hardware like you are, then after so many times, I just started to blame the ISP, my problem may not be yours, but I have a solution I use
[09:48] <iceroot> elkng: yes, but using the android-kernel
[09:48] <sae> marc^:  sorry, have you tried searching the net for "tomcat unknown default host error"
[09:48] <elkng> when it will be released ?
[09:48] <TheM4ch1n3> I just have two USB cables, and pluging in and out the device is just plugging in and out the ends of the cables, so my device will live longer
[09:49] <lost_and_unfound> TheM4ch1n3: your solution ... calling up SP call centre and giving them a hard time ? =]
[09:49] <elkng> will android applications from market work in "Ubuntu for Android" ?
[09:49] <TheM4ch1n3> I also had similair kind of problem with Bluetooth USB dongle, though I think that was due to flacky vendor support for Linux
[09:50] <marc^> sae: yes but without success so far
[09:50] <TheM4ch1n3> lost_and_unfound: dude, if you phone them they will probably just tell you to use Windows, then you will have more problems, trust me, but you can if you want :)
[09:52] <lost_and_unfound> TheM4ch1n3: I wouldnt mind that option, however the PC serves as a DLNA server and have internet connectivity, so each time you have to go to the PC to reset the internet.. it gets a bit frustrating. so I will google around a bit more. Maybe I get 'n solution =] Thanks for the input, appreciate it
[09:52] <TheM4ch1n3> I got a new PC the other day, and Linux would not read the CD, until I change a setting in the bios that said "Windows" next to it (IDE/AHCI) !!
[09:53] <lost_and_unfound> ^^ reset internet connectivity... resetting the internet is something TOTALLY different =]
[09:53] <shredding> My httpd.conf in my apache is somewhat messed up. Where can I find the original one (at install time)?
[09:53] <TheM4ch1n3> I tested the PC with an old linux that only supports IDE, and guess what, didn't work either, so I figured out it was just a button to get rid of Linux
[09:55] <TheM4ch1n3> lost_and_unfound: um, when I am on the net it resets too at random times, I am starting to think my ISP is doing it to stop re-sellers of there "line"
[09:55] <lost_and_unfound> shredding: backup /etc/apache, uninstall apache, install apache, copy over configs...
[09:55] <TheM4ch1n3> lost_and_unfound: your best guess is as good as mine :/
[09:55] <shredding> lost_and_unfound: sudo apt-remove apache2?
[09:56] <shredding> I do not have much configs, basically I just have setup a virtual host. I would just dump it and restart from scratch.
[09:56] <lost_and_unfound> TheM4ch1n3: .. they are all out to get us man!
[09:56] <lost_and_unfound> shredding: so, backup you configs to your home dir
[09:57] <lost_and_unfound> shredding: sudo apt-get remove apache2
[09:57] <shredding> thanks
[09:57]  * lost_and_unfound afk... trying to find answers... *gone*
[09:57] <tsimpson> shredding: make sure you use use --purge with apt-get to remove the config files
[09:58] <shredding> tsimpson: DAMN, two secs to late.
[09:58] <shredding> I've already removed.
[09:58] <shredding> tsimpson: is there a way to remove the config files after removing apache2?
[09:58] <lost_and_unfound> shredding: just rm your /etc/apache/*
[09:59] <tsimpson> shredding: yes, sudo dpkg --purge ... :)
[09:59] <tsimpson> just put the package(s) at the end
[09:59] <tsimpson> I think it's actually apache2.2-common that contains the config files, so probably that one
[10:00] <shredding> Ok.
[10:00] <ANub> guys anyone among u has used wireshark on 12.04....?
[10:00] <lost_and_unfound> shredding: follow tsimpson suggestions... sounds more "secure" than rm'ing =] .
[10:01] <CruX|> hello i have problem with unetbootin and kubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso, anyone can help (cdrom is not detected) ?
[10:01] <CruX|> http://put.sk/img/9366s10.png
[10:01] <shredding> tsimpson: The problem is that I can't remove apache2.2-common because it has dependencies (namely php
[10:01] <herb9a> hello, i have a big problem: i have upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04 via cd rom (and updates from the network) and i still can login and while my personal files are still available NO other application (besides firefox and nautilus) is installed, not even a terminal?! can someone help me out
[10:02] <ANub> herb9a>> i also updated from 11.04 and i can see everything
[10:02] <TheM4ch1n3> herb9a: if you try CTRL+ALT+F1  ... CTRL+ALT+F12 does it have a text terminal somewhere ?
[10:02] <herb9a> okay, i mean there are no applications available in the launcher - but since i could started up nautilus i can start xterm in /usr/bin/xterm
[10:02] <ANub> wat r u using .....unity or classic..?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> herb9a: log into Unity2D session, may help
[10:03] <tsimpson> shredding: it shouldn't depend on php, that's an optional component
[10:03]  * TheM4ch1n3 dissapears in hidden terminal on herb9a ;)   j/k
[10:04] <shredding> tsimpson: I have the feeling that this whole stuff is a total mess.
[10:05] <tsimpson> shredding: well, whatever it depends on should be installed again when you apt-get apache2
[10:05] <shredding> tsimpson: I have followed an installation guide somewhere in the web that was bullshit and now I have the whole stack (MySQL, PHP, Apache) in different packages.
[10:05] <herb9a> ActionParsnip: okay, i will try that
[10:07] <shredding> tsimpson: I've done sudo apt-get install apache2 and he did something, but /etc/apache2/ is empty.
[10:07] <nokiaguru> Ubuntu 10.04lts. Can someone confirm Epson AllInOne  does not work in 10.04 and I cannot backport prog/driver for it no ppa . So I have to install a newer release just to use the Epson AllInOne yes ?
[10:07] <john1000> my ubuntu 12.04 boot on 40 s is normaly?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> nokiaguru: which all in one, there are LOTS
[10:09] <shredding> tsimpson: however, localhost is still available with my old configuration
[10:09] <TheM4ch1n3> john1000: possibly, running the bootloader may change that
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> nokiaguru: its like going to a garage and saying you have an issue with a "car", you need to be a lot more specific
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> nokiaguru: it could be one of any of these: http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/ProductCategory.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=-8182
[10:11] <john1000> k i was installed on  wubi win7
[10:11] <herb9a> ActionParsnip: just a quick question: what should has this to do with 2d/3d? i can see some in the unity launcher, but there are not all available
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> john1000: is your NTFS fragmented?
[10:11] <john1000> yes
[10:11] <herb9a> ActionParsnip: is there maybe something to refresh the index?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> herb9a: if you attempt to log in to 3D and 3D accelleration isn't working you will get a blank destop. 2D will run on anything
[10:12] <AminosAmigos> hello
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> john1000: thats why then, your wubi 'disk' is stored in NTFS, so fragmentation there will directly affect the Ubuntu performance
[10:12] <shredding> tsimpson: Ok, now it's totally weird: "locate httpd.conf" tells me its /etc/apache2/httpd.conf - but it isnt.
[10:12] <john1000> ok thx for information
[10:12] <herb9a> ActionParsnip: okay, but this is not the case here - the interface is working, but just the index of all applications is not available
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> john1000: if you install a proper install, it doesn't use ntfs so fragmentation won't occur
[10:13] <AminosAmigos> Is it possible to install cinnamon on 12.04 LIVE CD ?
[10:13] <tsimpson> shredding: locate uses a cache, usually updated once a day, so that's normal
[10:13] <shredding> tsimpson: puh
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: if you can find a PPA, yes. Cinnammon is not supported here
[10:13] <shredding> But how does it come that my localhost works?
[10:13] <tsimpson> shredding: I'd guess some apache instance is still running (even though it should have been killed during the removal)
[10:14] <AminosAmigos> ActionParsnip,  ok thanx
[10:14] <nokiaguru> AP   It is for the Epson sx515w. The xsane in 10.04lts not compatible with the Epson and I need to use xsane-0.998. But it is not in 10.04lts repository.
[10:14] <shredding> tsimpson: ok, i've done killall apache2 and am now here with a non working apache
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[10:16] <tsimpson> shredding: if I was in your position now, I'd probably do something like "sudo dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | grep apache | awk '{print $2}'" (ie: remove every package with "apache" in it), and then start over
[10:16] <shredding> tsimpson: What's going on at sudo apt-get install apache2? He installs some 29,7 kb stuff somewhere but not apache2 in /etc/apache2/
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: for a supported desktop, I suggest you install xfce4. You will then be supported here
[10:17] <AminosAmigos> i just want to try it to see whats new about it :)  ActionParsnip  :D thanx a lot
[10:18] <shredding> tsimpson: thanks, when I enter this in the terminal, it just switches to an ">" and I can't do anything.
[10:18] <shredding> tsimpson: ah, added an )
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: all I did was websearch, I don't use Cinnamon....
[10:19] <shredding> tsimpson: That failed. It says there are dependencies and 0 package are removed :(
[10:19] <nokiaguru> AP Is there a way to add xsane-0.998 to Ub10.04lts
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> nokiaguru: if you can find it, sure
[10:19] <shredding> I hate it.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> nokiaguru: try typing my full nick (use tab to autocomplete)
[10:20] <tsimpson> shredding: ok, try replacing "dpkg --purge" with "apt-get --purge remove", then do the dpkg command again (just to make sure)
[10:20] <hubp2> ActionParsnip: if you are interested, i have solved the launcher problem by removing ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite
[10:21] <shredding> tsimpson: the dpkg -l remains?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> hubp2: thanks, mental note :)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> nokiaguru: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1400872
[10:21] <tsimpson> shredding: yes
[10:22] <shredding> tsimpson: Ok, that did some serious stuff.
[10:22] <shredding> tsimpson: Would sudo apt-get install apache2 be the next move?
[10:23] <Jekyll> Is tilda a dead project? The last release was years ago.
[10:23] <tsimpson> shredding: first, check the output of "dpkg -l|grep apache", there should be no output
[10:23] <tsimpson> shredding: if that's ok, apt-get is the next step
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Jekyll: possibly, could use guake
[10:24] <scifi> hi, on my ubuntu 11.04 the host system crashes when I start a guest system (ubuntu 64 bit) with virtualbox. Does anyone know whether this hsa to do with the ubuntu update or is it rather virtualbox's fault? The same guest system worked fine on 10.10
[10:24] <shredding> tsimpson: yes, there's no output.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> scifi: ask in #vbox as well
[10:24] <scifi> i did so ActionParsnip :)
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> :)
[10:25] <scifi> it's really wicked, I already wiped the whole virtualbox, reoved all configuration etc and then installed again, imported the .ova again and it still happens :/
[10:26] <shredding> tsimpson: THANK YOU. It worked.
[10:26] <shredding> I do now have a fresh apache2 installation. Should be easy from now.
[10:26] <tsimpson> :)
[10:26] <shredding> Thanks again, that really helped!
[10:27] <Lynysys> Hi folks - just had reported to me on a precise pangolin upgrade "It sticks on the startup page and when I start it it just keeps cycling on the ubuntu page" - I'm visiting the client (My mom) later and wondered if anyone knew what might have happened from the rather terse fault description!
[10:27] <jjavaholic> I'm experiencing a problem with the unity dash none of the application icons in the launcher or inside the dash work how would you diagnosis this problem?
[10:28] <jjavaholic> I can click on files and they will load from inside the dash
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynysys: possibly low disk space. Press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login screen and run:  sudo apt-get clean
[10:29] <nokiaguru> ActionParsnip. Found add-apt-repository ppa:robert-ancell/sane-backends. Installed and sane now working with sx515w
[10:29] <jjavaholic> done that did nothing
[10:30] <tarelerulz> I'm using  12.04 and I some how turned of  my wifi and it will not turn back on at all.
[10:31] <Lynysys> Thanks ActionParsnip I'll keep that in miind
[10:31] <jjavaholic> when i ctrl-alt f1 and sudo service lightdm restart they start loading but later after a cron.hourly shows up syslog stop working
[10:33] <jjavaholic> I think i'm possibly missing a process that should be handling it put as i'm not really that familar with the unity processes i don't know which one i'm looking for.
[10:33] <kittxi_> Hello
[10:33] <jjavaholic> but^
[10:34] <nokiaguru> Action Parsnip thanks.   No way was i installing the Unity **** just to use printer.
[10:35] <kittxi_> does anyone in here know how to easily download windows games like League of Legend, or even IMVU for somereason it says
[10:35] <kittxi_> End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[10:35] <kittxi_>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[10:35] <kittxi_>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[10:35] <kittxi_>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[10:35] <FloodBot1> kittxi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <jjavaholic> is there a channel for unity?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> jjavaholic: maybe #unity  or here
[10:42] <LinuxMonkey> good morning everyone :)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> howdy LinuxMonkey
[10:44] <mi3> howdy ActionParsnip
[10:44] <marc^> good afternoon :)
[10:44] <mi3> yo!
[10:44] <sirknight> hi
[10:44] <LinuxMonkey> looks like a quiet morning, I may watch some tv as I wait for some prey that require help
[10:44] <marc^> i cannot talk in ##linux is this channel to 1337 for me?
[10:44] <mi3> morning? its evening in here.....
[10:44] <marc^> damn nerds :>
[10:44] <sirknight> yesterday at this time it was a zoo in here
[10:44] <LinuxMonkey> !language | marc^
[10:45] <mi3> hello ActionParsnip !!
[10:45] <mi3> ActionParsnip, do you read me?
[10:45] <AminosAmigos> ActionParsnip,  it works fine (Live usb) thanks again
[10:45] <sirknight> mi3, testing 1/2/3
[10:45] <sirknight> lol
[10:45] <mi3> hahahaha
[10:45] <marc^> mi3: gmt+2 here :D
[10:46] <Jester> Hello !
[10:46] <mi3> marc^, its UTC +0530 here !!
[10:46] <sirknight> any one here know a lttie about scipting ?
[10:47] <Jester> who is from slovakia ?
[10:47] <iceroot> sirknight: #scripting #bash #python
[10:47] <mi3> !ask | Jester
[10:47] <mi3> hahahaha lol
[10:47] <Jester> wtf ?
[10:48] <mi3> ftw!
[10:48] <mi3> lol
[10:48] <kayaman> hi all
[10:48] <marc^> !language | Jester
[10:48] <marc^> uuuh, that's fun... ;)
[10:48] <LinuxMonkey> !language | jester, even though its just letters we know what it means
[10:48] <Jester> :D
[10:48] <mi3> !language | marc^
[10:48] <mi3> lol
[10:48] <Gyro54> Hi!
[10:49] <Jester> :D
[10:49] <Jester> da fuq ?
[10:49] <mi3> !cookie | ActionParsnip
[10:49] <kayaman> ubottu, who are you
[10:49] <tsimpson> mi3: do not abuse the bot
[10:49] <Gyro54> How do I upgrade my Thunderbird
[10:49] <mi3> tsimpson, ok, and tell others, too
[10:49] <Jester> ubottu
[10:49] <tsimpson> mi3: no one else did
[10:49] <mi3> is a bot
[10:49] <mi3> lol
[10:49] <kayaman> guys who is this ubottu
[10:49] <sirknight> iceroot just need the termnial window to stay open
[10:49] <marc^> !donotabusethebot | mi3
[10:49] <mi3> tsimpson, bitch, LinuxMonkey did
[10:49] <Jester> ubottu da fuq ?
[10:49] <iceroot> sirknight: then dont close it
[10:49] <mi3> lol
[10:50] <kayaman> guys who is this ubottu
[10:50] <kayaman> guys who is this ubottu
[10:50] <LinuxMonkey> Gyro54:  wich version are you currently running and what version is your ubuntu?
[10:50] <Jester> ubottu i love you !!! :*
[10:50] <mi3> kayaman, ubottu is a bot
[10:50] <Jester> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[10:50] <Gyro54> I am running 3.1 and on 11.04 but there is no upgrade available
[10:50] <acicula> kayaman: its a channel bot that you can ask for some factoids
[10:50] <mi3> IRC bot ok
[10:50] <Jester> how i can select other channel ?
[10:50] <marc^> ok this conversation is lost in bot abuse
[10:50] <sirknight> well when i run the script it closes itself
[10:50] <elkng> !abuse
[10:50] <marc^> bbl
[10:50] <mi3> what the f is wrong with this channel? is everyone gone mad?
[10:50] <acicula> Gyro54: what version are you expecting?
[10:50] <kayaman> acicula,  thanks
[10:50] <mi3> lol
[10:51] <shredding> tsimpson: Ok, i got it so far, but now apache prompts me to download my php files.
[10:51] <Gyro54> version 12?
[10:51] <shredding> I downloaded the php dependencies and restarted apache.
[10:51] <shredding> All I did was adjusting the sites-available/default to my /home/me/www directory
[10:51] <acicula> Gyro54: ah you are trying to upgrade the ubuntu installation
[10:51] <mi3> BYE
[10:51] <mi3> :D
[10:51] <shredding> Do you have an idea?
[10:51] <acicula> Gyro54: how are you trying to upgrade?
[10:51] <shredding> (Or someone else)
[10:52] <acicula> shredding: an idea about what precisely?
[10:52] <tsimpson> shredding: you want to install php5 and libapache2-mod-php5 to run PHP code
[10:52] <Gyro54> acicula: TB is telling me I need to upgrade as my version is old. I downloaded the tar but thought there may be a unubtu release?
[10:53] <LjL> mi3: maybe your first language is not english, but calling someone a "bitch" is not nice, please don't do it...
[10:53] <shredding> acicula: The history is, that my apache installation was messed up and i started from scratch, with big help from tsimpson
[10:53] <mi3> ok, LjL
[10:53] <shredding> tsimpson: I've already done so.
[10:53] <mi3> sorry, LjL
[10:53] <LinuxMonkey> Gyro54: there is
[10:53] <mi3> and btw, LjL my 1st language IS English[US]
[10:53] <LinuxMonkey> Gyro54: latest version in the repo is 12.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1
[10:54] <Gyro54> Do I just apt-get update thunderbird?
[10:54] <acicula> Gyro54: you will have to update through the software-manager, not via a tar that you download
[10:54] <sirknight> shredding,  note:back up/clone  so you can time travel lolXD
[10:54] <tsimpson> shredding: did you restart apache after installing those?
[10:54] <shredding> Sure.
[10:55] <shredding> If I run php ~/www/index.php via command line, it works.
[10:55] <neure> hi
[10:55] <tsimpson> shredding: check if /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load exist exists, if not you probably need to "sudo a2enmod php5" and then restart apache (again)
[10:55] <neure> is there some minimal ubuntu install iso i can download?
[10:55] <neure> i have 256 MB daily download limit :(
[10:55] <LjL> !minimal | neure
[10:55] <iceroot> !minimal | neure
[10:56] <shredding> tsimpson: The file does exist.
[10:56] <iceroot> neure: but that will need more then 256mb if you want a desktop
[10:56] <LjL> neure: however it will still download everything from the internet if you want a full environment, no way out of that
[10:56] <neure> i know
[10:56] <shredding> sudo a2enmod php5 says: Module already enabled
[10:56] <shredding> I'm going crazy with this.
[10:57] <Tzunamii> shredding: ls -la /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[10:58] <shredding> Tzunamii: http://pastebin.com/Ar5MvSc3
[10:58] <tiago> Hello everyone, does anyone notices that in 12.04 your computer fan is constantly on work?
[10:58] <Paddy_NI> Hello I'm having a very frustrating problem, I pressed the button above my touchpad on the laptop (compaq cq71) that disables/enables the touchpad.. I now no longer have use of the mouse when logged into the default ubuntu session, however when I  am on the login screen it works perfectly and when logged in to ubuntu 2d
[10:59] <Paddy_NI> I have tried switching the button on and off and it makes no difference
[10:59] <Paddy_NI> and restarting
[10:59] <Barbican> what is this irc
[10:59] <Barbican> ?
[11:00] <Jester> where goes programs whe i install it on ubuntu whitch folder ?
[11:00] <Jester> anybody know ?
[11:00] <shredding> Paddy_NI: I have a similar thing at work, did you try pressing it a few seconds?
[11:00] <shredding> Jester: /etc/
[11:00] <tsimpson> Jester: different kind of files go in different places, but usually they are all under /usr
[11:00] <shredding> Jester: tsimpson is right
[11:00] <Jester> thank
[11:01] <Paddy_NI> shredding, Hmm yes.. but perhaps I did not press it long enough??
[11:01] <Paddy_NI> okay time to log out and back in to the default session brb
[11:01] <Tzunamii> shredding: I'm sorry, but would you please re-state your exact issue
[11:01] <Gyro54> LinuxMonkey: My software centre only shows TB version 3.1.2? do i need to switch something on?
[11:02] <tsimpson> Tzunamii: their issue is apache not executing PHP scripts, but rather just sending the raw PHP script (as far as I understand it)
[11:02] <LinuxMonkey> Gyro54: close software center
[11:02] <shredding> Tzunamii: Thank you. I had a total messed up apache which i had to remvoe. I started from scratch, have now apache2 up and running and just changed the default virtual host to my home directory. My Problem: PHP files are not parsed but just downloaded.
[11:02] <LinuxMonkey> Gyro54: the in console type apt-get update
[11:03] <shredding> Tzunamii: e.g. apache delivers the files directly to the browser instead of processing them.
[11:03] <Tzunamii> Does it find your index.php script via Apache at all?
[11:03] <Gyro54> LinuxMonkey: Thanks - will do
[11:03] <Paddy_NI> shredding, okay now it mysteriously just started working as soon as I logged back in :-)
[11:03] <LinuxMonkey> then do a an apt-get install thunderbird
[11:03] <Paddy_NI> no button press required
[11:03] <shredding> Tzunamii: What do you mean by "does it find"? It finds it and it's delivers it like css or js files.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: what version do you want?
[11:04] <Tzunamii> ok
[11:04] <Jester> how i can change chanel on xchat-gnome ?
[11:04] <shredding> PHP5 is up and running in the console.
[11:04] <LinuxMonkey> if your repo's are set it should update that 1 package
[11:04] <shredding> I have added all dependencies.
[11:04] <shredding> And am now at the end with my knowledge.
[11:04] <shredding> Paddy_NI: cool
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: and what is the ouput of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:05] <shredding> Would it help to restart the computer?
[11:05] <Tzunamii> shredding: check one thing first:  apt-get update && apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[11:05] <Paddy_NI> One other question, is skype now supported through anything other than the official client?
[11:05] <kayaman> hey
[11:06] <shredding> Tzunamii: ok, sec
[11:06] <Gyro54> ActionParsnip: Natty
[11:06] <jrib> shredding: pretty sure php is disabled in user's public_html by default
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[11:07] <Gyro54> LinuxMonkey: Apt-get update didnt change the version?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: make sure you backup your mail first
[11:08] <shredding> Tzunamii: it says it is at the actual version (0 installed, 0 changed and 2 not uptaded)
[11:08] <Gyro54> ActionParsnip: Thanks .. was getting very frustrating
[11:08] <shredding> jrib: How may I do that?
[11:08] <oCean> shredding: jrib is correct
[11:08] <Tzunamii> shredding: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1721177
[11:09] <van7hu> hi everyone, I am new to kerberos, when it comes to client, I want to install "krbadmi55", apt-get states that libkdb5-4 and libgssrpc4 replaced it, please give me some advices, I am using lucid
[11:09] <LinuxMonkey> ActionParsnip:  why a PPA...;p
[11:09] <oCean> shredding: in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php.conf is a description on how to re-enable it, but be aware that the default disabled option is there for a (security) reason
[11:09] <shredding> jirib, oCean, Tzunamii: But I'm in ~/www not ~/public_html
[11:10] <Tzunamii> Personally I always rename public_html to .www personally, but that's just me. Not related to the Q though
[11:11] <oCean> Personally, I will never provide www documents from my homedir
[11:11] <shredding> Well, that did not help.
[11:11] <jrib> shredding: clear your browser's cache
[11:11] <Tzunamii> shredding: Have you cleared the browser's cache?
[11:12] <oCean> shredding: what do you mean when you say "that" did not help
[11:12] <shredding> oCean: I mean that the files are getting still downloaded
[11:13] <shredding> Clearing the cache helped!
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> LinuxMonkey: user is using natty
[11:13] <shredding> oCean: Tzunamii: jrib: tsimpson: You're brilliant.
[11:13] <oCean> not me :)
[11:13] <shredding> just of interest: What is the security reason and does it affect me on my personal desktop?
[11:14] <oCean> shredding: usually www files (both html and scripts etc) are offered from a (separate) webroot/webdirectory. In that way they are not able to do any harm to the rest of the system
[11:14] <oCean> (if configured correctly that is)
[11:14] <jrib> shredding: if you're the only user on the system, it should not be an issue
[11:15] <shredding> Thanks.
[11:15] <oCean> just don't make it available over the Internet :)
[11:15] <Tzunamii> One way is to use symlinks and set it up the proper way
[11:15] <Brustofski-Fan> Ubuntu 12.04 installed gdm.. How do i change login screen themes??
[11:16] <Brustofski-Fan> in gnome-shell
[11:16] <iceroot> Brustofski-Fan: why gdm? and not lightdm?
[11:17] <Brustofski-Fan> iceroot, guess probly because i have used gdm for years
[11:17] <iceroot> Brustofski-Fan: like gnome2? :)
[11:18] <Brustofski-Fan> yes
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/change-gdm-theme-background-in-ubuntu.html
[11:18] <Gyro54> Thanks again for your help!
[11:18] <Brustofski-Fan> but like gnome shell better
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: gdm is coded using gtk3 ;)
[11:20] <zgr> us.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> zgr: works here
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> zgr: try: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[11:20] <yeats> zgr: nope
[11:21] <zgr> ok thanks
[11:21] <Brustofski-Fan> ActionParsnip, i knew it used gtk3. sence it's part of gnome3
[11:21] <zgr> I've got my dns messed up
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: indeedy, the app should help
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> zgr: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> zgr: should be ok
[11:22] <rdz> hi all. how can i disable icons in menus in 12.04?
[11:22] <zgr> ActionParsnip: yes already did that)
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> rdz: which menus?
[11:22] <maylow> hi
[11:22] <maylow> i have a question about fontconfig
[11:22] <maylow> cannot find a clue in gogle
[11:22] <maylow> that is - how do i use the <not> tag in .font.config
[11:23] <FloodBot1> maylow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <rdz> ActionParsnip, in gnome applications like evolution
[11:23] <eutheria> hi, does anyone know how to get eclipse and global menu working?
[11:24] <eutheria> or even if it is possibe?
[11:24] <maylow> anyone, any thoughts?
[11:24] <deufrai> eutheria: please explain ?
[11:24] <eutheria> deufrai, well am i right in thinking that the global menu is the menu that appears at the top of the screen taking the menu bar out of the app and placing it in the top bar
[11:25] <eutheria> for some reason the menubar in eclipse appears in the app
[11:25] <deufrai> eutheria: gotcha. Haven't tried Eclipse with Unity yet
[11:26] <Brustofski-Fan> ActionParsnip, That app would help if it was in the repo
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69815/can-i-make-eclipse-use-the-ubuntu-global-menu
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: i guess, could submit a bug
[11:27] <eutheria> ActionParsnip, yeah i read that too, but This doesn't respond to the question of using the global AppMenu. This adds an entry in the dash/launcher.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: ahhhhh
[11:27] <eutheria> hehe :D
[11:28] <eutheria> can you disable the panel?
[11:28] <strk> any reason why "Update Manager" isn't prompting me to install 11.04LTS ?
[11:28] <eutheria> i would much rather have apps notify me in the top bar
[11:30] <Jester> floodbot1
[11:30] <eutheria> ok next question, how can i make the menu always show?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu/+bug/618587
[11:32] <Brustofski-Fan> ActionParsnip, Only reason that link did not work because it only goes up to ubuntu 11.10
[11:33] <Brustofski-Fan> 11.04 natty
[11:36] <maylow> hi
[11:37] <maylow> anyone familiar with fontconfig syntax?
[11:37] <maylow> fonconfig xml configuration syntax
[11:37] <maria30> hi
[11:39] <iceroot> strk: because there is no 11.04LTS
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> strk: not all releases are LTS
[11:41] <Sidewinder> They are STS.
[11:42] <The_BROS> What is the best antivirus for Linux?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> The_BROS: there is no best antivirus for any OS
[11:42] <gaelfx> I have a broadcom 4313 b/g/n wireless card using STA drivers, but the connection is always
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: always what?
[11:43] <gaelfx> 65mbps, but the hardware is capable of 150mbps, any way to fix that?
[11:43] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: sorry, someone knocked on the door and I reflexively hit the enter key
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: hehe, any bugs reported?
[11:43] <LinuxMonkey> The_BROS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[11:44] <iceroot> !virus | The_BROS
[11:44] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: that's an excellent question, I wasn't able to find anything, but perhaps I need to search launchpad directly instead of googling
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> The_BROS: you only need AV if you are running a file store with Windows clients, or an email server
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: maybe network-manager
[11:45] <The_BROS> Thanx guys!
[11:45] <fg> Hi
[11:46] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: I should also add that I'm sure it's not a router issue since my wife's computer and my tablet both connect at 150mbps
[11:46] <eutheria> is it possible to always show the global menu? i don't like having things hidden from me
[11:47] <captine> ActionParsnip, i have a similar issue.  have wireless n wifi but it doesnt pick up my routers 5ghz SSID, but does the  2.4.  it also only connects to the 2.g at max 117mbit.   am using brand new dualband netgear running a 130 and 300mbit
[11:49] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: nothing on launchpad, just not working/connectivity issues, which is not what I'm experiencing. You think I need to look for bugs related to network manager?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> captine: what speed is your internet?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27504/
[11:50] <melodie> hello, I have been on #ubuntu-dev but there is only one person there : isn't there another chan where more people stay ?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> melodie: here, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:51] <gaelfx> whoa...apparently windows people are having trouble connecting faster than 65mbps too...that's extremely disconcerting!
[11:51] <Sidewinder> melodie, Or #ubuntu+1?
[11:51] <melodie> Sidewinder, ?
[11:52] <eutheria> ActionParsnip, oh i take it that i can't do that right now, oh well, unity is much better than it used to be
[11:52] <melodie> there is someone having for nick lars there
[11:52] <Sidewinder> melodie, There's 174 peeps, there, now.
[11:52] <lars_> melodie: i Joined it
[11:52] <Prnv> need help with grub2. can anyone help me sort out the problem?
[11:52] <lars_> melodie: the channel is not registered
[11:52] <meraj> hi can any one help me,i m nt able see my youtube videos in vlc player?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Prnv: whats the issue?
[11:53] <lars_> The channel is not registered because there is no development version
[11:53] <Prnv> I formated bt5 and now i am unable to boot into ubuntu
[11:53] <melodie> lars_, I am looking for a chan where I can ask advice to create a package : I have printed the doc but never done before and the compile works but has no configure...
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Prnv: how do you mean "formatted bt5" do you mean you removed the partition?
[11:53] <melodie> Sidewinder, where are there so many people ?
[11:53] <lars_> melodie: here you are right!
[11:54] <Sidewinder> melodie, In #ubuntu+1.
[11:54] <Prnv> Yes using gparted through live cd
[11:54] <lars_> !ask  | melodie
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Prnv: you can chroot to ubuntu in liveCD and install grub to the mbr again etc
[11:54] <fg> I nstalled nvidia driver but it is not working and the screen is smaller than before.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> fg: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:55] <Sidewinder> melodie, There's 1688, here. :)
[11:55] <meraj> lars_can u help me?
[11:55] <lars_> meraj: yes for sure. where is the Problem
[11:56] <Prnv> i dont have livecd of 11.o4 and i came to know its not possible to fix it with 10.04 which i am having
[11:56] <fg> ActionParsnip: I tried it.not worked:(
[11:56] <Pr0nfl4k35> Is there anyone else out there, who experienced massive problems with ubuntu 12.04 64 bit after upgrading from 11.10?
[11:56] <eutheria> when i do alt-tab the icons displayed are huge and distorted, can i make these icons 32x32 like they really should be?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Prnv: it will work as long as the CD is the same arch as the installed OS
[11:56] <meraj> lars_i v downloaded youtube video bt nt able to ply in vlc player?
[11:56] <melodie> lars_, i can ask dev questions here ? ok I shoot the question : the program is openbox-menu and does not exist in debian and in ubuntu, so I want to make a package; i got the doc and installed what is needed; i compiled successfully and I know what the build requires are and the requires for use (depends for the package). There is no ./configure : shall I meet with problems that are not likely to be said in the doc ? http://wiki.debian.org/IntroDeb
[11:56] <melodie> ianPackaging
[11:57] <Pr0nfl4k35> 11.10 ran perfectly, but now the OS crashes like every five minutes
[11:57] <lars_> you need codecs!
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Pr0nfl4k35: test your RAM from grub
[11:57] <oCean> Pr0nfl4k35: please change your nick to something for appropriate for a family friendly channel
[11:57] <[[thufir]]> what user does apache run as under Ubuntu?  those processes are as "apache"?
[11:57] <oCean> more appropriate* even
[11:57] <meraj> lars- i run the command ubuntu-restricted-extras aslso.
[11:58] <[[thufir]]> or maybe what group?  I'm having trouble with permissions for php files in /var/www and want to make the permissions correct.
[11:58] <lars_> meraj: realy?
[11:58] <meraj> lars_for codec still nt able
[11:58] <lars_> Oh thats mystery meraj
[11:58] <meraj> lars_ya
[11:58] <lars_> Then i can not helo you meraj sry
[11:58] <Prnv> so that i tried to use grub rescue commands and have error when executing command start with insmode
[11:59] <rbik> hello, I'm trying to tell the computer that I am the admin and failing what location is the file for permision to write to root dir?
[11:59] <meraj> lars_ ok buddy
[11:59] <meraj> @ all_can any one solve this problem?
[12:00] <Sidewinder> rbik, Just use sudo <command>.
[12:00] <Rainerwahnsinn> ActionParsnip: okay, but why? do you think my ram broke after the update?
[12:00] <Sidewinder> rbik, Or gksudo if you're running a gui based program.
[12:00] <rbik> :Sidewinder:thanks for the help!
[12:01] <Sidewinder> rbik, My pleasure. :)
[12:01] <meraj> sidewinder_can u help me?
[12:02] <zakidine> hi everyone
[12:02] <lasers> Testing empathy once again... It does not have AIM? ;o
[12:03] <zakidine> ubuntu proposed me an update for flashplayer and i installed it
[12:03] <zakidine> and since then, videos on youtube etc do not work great
[12:03] <zakidine> is there a way to get the previous version ?
[12:03] <Rainerwahnsinn> I think/hope its some kinda software problem, the screen gets partially black and nothing happens anymore.
[12:03] <DragonSlay> lasers: pidgin is way better
[12:04] <lasers> DragonSlay: I disagree! (Just kidding. I'm testing Gnome3)
[12:04] <fg> ActionParsnip: Have you any idea?
[12:04] <melodie> lars_, you see I asked and no one knows
[12:04] <melodie> so what's the point ?
[12:04] <tontimer> Hi
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> fg: could read /var/log/Xorg.0.log  for clues
[12:06] <tontimer> Im using ubuntu 12.04 and I want to change the keyboard shortcuts, specifically the SUPER+T shortcut, which laucnh the trash
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> tontimer  system settings - keyboard - shortcuts
[12:07] <oppalovesme> GOOD MORNING
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> caps
[12:08] <susan_> HELLOOO
[12:08] <melodie> thks & bye
[12:08] <Shojo> hi guys!
[12:08] <melodie> susan_, no need to shout. ;-)
[12:08] <oppalovesme> what's up dawwwwg
[12:08] <oppalovesme> *z
[12:08] <melodie> same for oppalovesme
[12:08] <fg> ActionParsnip: Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/971240/
[12:08] <oCean> oppalovesme: this is the ubuntu support channel, do you have a support issue?
[12:08] <oppalovesme> oh okay
[12:08] <oppalovesme> yes
[12:09] <oppalovesme> i do
[12:09] <oppalovesme> my parents dont feed me, so i need support?
[12:09] <susan_> sorry melodie_
[12:09] <oppalovesme> or do you mean breast support?
[12:09] <Steevca> xD
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> oppalovesme  wrong channel
[12:09] <tontimer> MonkeyDust: Nope
[12:10] <darthdeus> hey guys, any idea on how to solve this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/132601/how-can-i-upgrade-nginx-after-adding-ppanginx-development
[12:10] <susan_> LOL
[12:10] <tontimer> If it was that easy I wouldn't be here :p
[12:10] <oCean> susan_: please don't use the CAPS, also do you have a support question?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> darthdeus  ppa's are not supported her, contact the maintainer
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> here*
[12:11] <darthdeus> MonkeyDust: but the problem is not in ppa, but in apt sources ...
[12:11] <susan_> SORRY I DONT KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF CAPS
[12:11] <Daekdroom> Press the 'Caps Lock' key next to the 'a'
[12:11] <phillip> Herpa Derpa
[12:12] <gaelfx> can anyone suggest a wireless/bluetooth combo card for a laptop that plays well in ubuntu?
[12:12] <oCean> phillip: ?
[12:12] <susan_> YEAH
[12:12] <alankila> I have an issue with 12.04 regarding gam_server and courier. It seems that I can't read my mail over imap sometimes until I kill gam_server
[12:12] <alankila> I wonder what might be up with that
 insmod /boot/grub/linux.mod gives error: the symbol 'grub_mm_base' not found. Any idea about it. I searched google and still I'am clueless
[12:12] <gaelfx> er, I should've added that I want it to connect at 300mbps
[12:13] <alankila> I'll have to strace this next time it happens
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> darthdeus: the PPA has the later version, run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nginx
[12:13] <susan_> WHATS UP EVERYONE?
[12:13] <eutheria> you know what, it is really great that 12.04 is supported for 5 years
[12:13] <darthdeus> ActionParsnip: that's what I did, and it says I have the newest version installed ... even though I'm on 1.0, which is from the stable branch, not the development
[12:13] <eutheria> 3 years was a bit short for me to feel comfortable to give to someone
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> susan_  press shift lock please
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Prnv: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1746542.html
[12:15] <tontimer> Anyone know how to change the ubuntu 12.04 recycle bin shortcut? I've tried with dconf-editor and gconf but I cannot change it, any suggestion?
[12:15] <tontimer> also with ccsm
[12:15] <m477> what is name of this panel at left in unity?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: change it in what way?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> m477: unity launcher
[12:15] <tontimer> ActionParsnip: I want to use SUPER+T to launch a terminal
[12:16] <tontimer> but every time i press the combination, the recycle bin launchs
[12:16] <m477> ActionParsnip: and I want to restart it, cuz it stopped but I cant find that command
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: might be defined in CCSM, if you use terminal a lot I suggest you install guake
[12:17] <hackmaster> HWDP
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> m477: are you running unity2d?
[12:17] <m477> ActionParsnip: indeed
[12:17] <hackmaster> unity 3d
[12:18] <tontimer> ActionParsnip: not in ccsm either... and I never liked guake
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> m477: me too, http://paste.ubuntu.com/971253/
[12:19] <eutheria> does the xscreensaver still give you the old widget set when you lock the terminal?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> m477: make sure you have tose running
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: or tilda
[12:20] <tontimer> the problem is I'm spanish and I use tilda quite a lot...
[12:20] <fg> ActionParsnip: ?
 thanks. I'm going to give it a try.
[12:21] <irenicus09> tontimer: what does using tilda have to do with being spanish ? :P
[12:21] <irenicus09> actually I'm indian so I use guake a lot
[12:21] <tontimer> well wait
[12:21] <tontimer> what's tilda for you?
[12:21] <tontimer> maybe im wrong
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: similar to guake
[12:22] <tontimer> lol I thought you were talking about accents
[12:22] <irenicus09> o.0
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !info tilda| tontimer
[12:22] <gaelfx> the tilde (~) is used to accent certain letters in certain languages
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !info tilda | tontimer
[12:22] <tontimer> I tought you were telling me to use the "tilde" key to bring the terminal :p
[12:22] <B|tchX> !bitchx
[12:23] <tontimer> !xbitch
[12:23] <gaelfx> !botabuse | B|tchX tontimer
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: you can if you install the app
[12:23] <B|tchX> lol
[12:23] <tontimer> meh
[12:23] <tontimer> ill survive without that
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: easier to launch a terminal
[12:26] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: I think I figured out the problem with the wireless, apparently this card uses Draft N, even though they put it a new computer (Asus 1225B). That, coupled with the fact that there's no dimm slot for expanding memory is making me think Asus has lost its mind
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: what speed is your web connection?
[12:28] <aLeSD> hi all
[12:28] <aLeSD> is it possible to add gnome-classic on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:28] <m477> ActionParsnip: I tried unity --reset-icons to restart that panel and it crashed my PC
[12:28] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: that's not the issue, I need the speed for LAN activity, streaming 1080p video
[12:29] <Sidewinder> aLeSD, This may be what you're lookin' for: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> snips
[12:29] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: how big is your screen?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: that yuo watch the vids on?
[12:29] <gaelfx> does www.azurewave.com work for anyone else?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: site is up, just slow
[12:30] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: the resolution is 1366x768, which I realize is only sufficient for 720p, but I've already got a lot of videos in 1080p
[12:30] <aLeSD> Sidewinder, ActionParsnip thanks
[12:30] <eutheria> i think the left hand panel should be 100% and the top panel should fit around that
[12:30] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: thanks for checking, seems GFW is blocking it, it's probably another Taiwan company
[12:31] <eutheria> the ubuntu button at the top of the menu should be the most prominent thing on the screen like the windows start button
[12:31] <zamba> what is going on with ubuntu server these days?
[12:31] <zamba> i've had several lucid installations just randomly crashing
[12:31] <zamba> totally different hardware.. nothing in syslog and just random reboots
[12:31] <Sidewinder> aLeSD, Our pleasure. :)
[12:31] <zamba> and of course reboots with a stupid disk error during bootup.. which is utterly idiotic on a remote system
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> zamba: tried booting the old kernel?
[12:32] <zamba> it replies to ping, but it's stuck with an error which prevents it from booting and bringing up sshd
[12:32] <zamba> so now i have a server remotely that replies to icmp, but that i can't log into
[12:32] <intore> hi, could someone help me on samba-ldap? i have problems mounting the directory of homes users from the server on my client. i installed pam_mount but am not sure about the configuration.
[12:32] <fg> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: I'd use a wired connection :) all I can suggest is report a bug, or get a better wifi chip
[12:32] <eutheria> can thunderbird be started minimised?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> eutheria: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/minimize-on-start-and-close/
[12:33] <eutheria> thanks ActionParsnip ;) you sure google fast :)
[12:34] <tontimer> hi again
[12:34] <tontimer> one more question :p
[12:35] <tontimer> I recently switched from gentoo and I was wondering if it's possible to compile every single package instead of just intalling a precompiled one
[12:35] <fg> I nstalled nvidia driver but it is not working and the screen is smaller than before. Can anyone help?
[12:35] <tontimer> Something like an option to apt
[12:35] <llutz_> tontimer: sure, but why does one want that to do?
[12:35] <fg> I nstalled nvidia driver but it is not working and the screen is smaller than before. Can anyone help?
[12:35] <tontimer> llutz well I'm interested in use every optimization for mi proc
[12:35] <gaelfx_> ActionParsnip: could you tell me the ip address of that site you just checked for me? DNS is failing for me
[12:35] <tontimer> speed!
[12:36] <llutz_> tontimer: then you better stay with gentoo
[12:36] <oCean> !compiling | tontimer
[12:36] <pgampe> hi all, I can not click the secure now button in preferences/backups (deja-dup)
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx_: 118.163.2.19
[12:37] <oCean> tontimer: you can use apt-get source <packagename> to fetch the sources
[12:37] <gaelfx_> ActionParsnip: thanks a heap
[12:37] <pgampe> what can be missing?
[12:37] <tontimer> yup
[12:37] <tontimer> I was looking for someting more automted
[12:37] <tontimer> like emerge
[12:37] <tontimer> well Ill keep looking
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: there is apt-build
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: very similar to emerge
[12:38] <llutz_> tontimer: using a binary distro to compile all the stuff on your own won't make much sense. though it's possible but ... more difficult
[12:39] <dom_> hello ,who can tell me how to crack the password of a wireless net
[12:40] <dom_> thanks a lot
[12:40] <iceroot> dom_: not supported here
[12:40] <llutz_> dom_: read "man aircrack-ng"
[12:40] <cbox> lol, Not supported here, but go read this...
[12:40] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[12:41] <dom_> ok ,sorry to borther everyone.thanks a lot
[12:41] <himawijaya> tes
[12:41] <pgampe> anyone ... deja-dup+windows share, but "secure now" button can not be clicked ... what might be missing?
[12:42] <DoctorPepper> is anyone here  using  kvm .  i have small issue creating  a OSX vm .  i am unable to  boot the vm
[12:42] <madlatvian> anyone for chit chat ?
[12:42] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: well, thanks for the IP. Finally confirmed that max speed for the card is 65mbps (I can't believe it was so hard to find the info)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: sounds alright
[12:43] <oCean> madlatvian: this channel is for tech support, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit chat
[12:43] <gaelfx> it's actually pretty hilarious, on the page, they first say Max speed says 65mbps, but lower it says connect up to 150mbps
[12:43] <gaelfx> http://118.163.2.19/product_AW-NB047_1.asp
[12:44] <captine> hi all.  My 12.04 regularly locks up.  It is very common when opening Skype.  anyone able to offer some advice on how i can see what causes the lock up?  It completely freezes and i need to hold the power button in to shut down then turn back on
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: its not wrong, 'up to' means, 'any value below'
[12:44] <pgampe> sorry, was away
[12:44] <captine> am running the  latest skype beta
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: it could say "up to 2Tb/s" and be right
[12:44] <xtu> i want to is there any voice control software or method to voice control
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> xtu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[12:45] <gaelfx> I hate marketing
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> captine: test ram in grub
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: indeed, its clever though
[12:45] <gaelfx> almost as much as I hate "specifications"
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: but a good usb adapter known to work well with ubuntu and connect it internally if possible (sounds like a laptop)
[12:48] <xtu> ok, ActionParsnip , thanks very much>
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> np
[12:49] <Sidewinder> captine, I can't help you with skype, sorry. But using the power button is not recommended in ubuntu; please see what ubottu is about to suggest>
[12:49] <Sidewinder> !reisub | captine
[12:50] <madlatvian> any one know how ubuntu's work is going with the arm processor
[12:50] <ForgeAus> does KDM use X? or is it something else?
[12:51] <oCean> !arm | madlatvian
[12:51] <fahmyboy> Hi All,  can anyone suggest what is the best way to sync an ipod?
[12:51] <fahmyboy> is it itunes + wine?
[12:51] <ForgeAus> I think there might be something wrong with my display ... I don't know whats going on here, just seems to be one disaster after another
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | fahmyboy
[12:54] <ubuntunobody> hi, anyone else getting weird python errors w/ apport-gtk after upgrading to 12.04, any ideas how to fix?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> fahmyboy: rhythmbox may do it, there is also ifuse which may help. The only real way I've seen is run virtualbox (non OSE version) and run a full windows install then install iTunes
[12:55] <smf> gonna use windows now, so ican use the LATEST free open source software such as gimp 2.8
[12:55] <smf> with ubuntu, you always using old free open source software
[12:55] <smf> the best platform for free open source software is windows
[12:55] <fahmyboy> hi Parsnip
[12:55] <smf> with windows you always have access to the very latest free open source software
[12:56] <madlatvian> what are you out of your mind
[12:56] <fahmyboy> what is virtual box?
[12:56] <smf> virtualbox is a virtual machine
[12:56] <oCean> smf: if you just came to rant, please do that somewhere else
[12:56] <Sidewinder> Don't feed the troll.
[12:56] <smf> why the fuck can windows ppl have gimp 2.8 but i cant?
[12:56] <ForgeAus> its a subsystem that runs a virtual computer in a window basically
[12:56] <ForgeAus> thats waht a virtual box is :)
[12:57] <fahmyboy> oh ok.
[12:57] <dom_> hello,i just install the ubuntu 12.04.and i want to install a 3d desktop,who can tell me how to do that
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> fahmyboy: its a way to run another OS inside another, your ipod thing needs windows because apple sucks
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> fahmyboy: so to manipulate your device fully you will need to run 2 OSes at the same time, or dual boot
[12:58] <fahmyboy> oh ok.  so you recommend I install windows?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> fahmyboy: or you could get a device that doesn't need itunes and be free
[12:59] <fahmyboy> that is a depressing solution :)
[12:59] <ForgeAus> dom_:  3d desktop? you mean like compiz a desktop cube? or
[12:59] <ForgeAus> dom_:  just some 3d enviroment where you place your windows?
[12:59] <dom_> yes ,it the first
[12:59] <xtu> hello, dom
[12:59] <ForgeAus> if you don't have it, try sudo apt-get compiz I guess
[13:00] <ForgeAus> oops forgot the install bit there
[13:00] <ForgeAus> in terminal sudo apt-get install compiz
[13:00] <LinuxMonkey> !ipod | fahmyboy
[13:00] <jp_wanN> hey :)
[13:00] <jp_wanN> can anybody tell me how to add a program to startup (with "Startup Applications") with a delay?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> compiz is in a default ubuntu install
[13:00] <ForgeAus> (unless unity or gnome do compositing now)
[13:00] <dom_> ok ,is there any needs to display that effect?
[13:01] <dom_> to my computer
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> fahmyboy: you have a device from one of the most closed minded companies around, what did you expect
[13:01] <jp_wanN> I tried using "sleep 10s && gmusicbrowser -play" but it doesn't work
[13:01] <maddog320> hi all
[13:01] <jp_wanN> it only works from terminal, not with Alt+F2 and not in Startup Applications
[13:01] <ForgeAus> dom_ I guess you just have to configure compiz then, check settings?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> jp_wanN: make a script, then add the script, may work
[13:01] <jp_wanN> maddog320: hi
[13:02] <jp_wanN> ActionParsnip: I know thath would work but i don't like that solution
[13:02] <dom_> and i just have installed the ubuntu
[13:02] <jp_wanN> i don't want to make a script for everything
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> dom_: you'll need 3D accelleration to get the effects
[13:03] <dom_> and do nothing else
[13:03] <maddog320> hi guys just did a fresh install of the lates ubuntu distro and it seem buggy and slow. im running it on a toshiba saterlight c660 intel core i3.Any ideas what it might be
[13:03] <Simulator> CIAO
[13:03] <Simulator> ragazzi
[13:03] <Sidewinder> Here comes the list.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> maddog320: what GPU are you using?
[13:03] <Simulator> HO un problema
[13:03] <oCean> Sidewinder: please, don't do that
[13:04] <oCean> !it | Simulator
[13:04] <Sidewinder> oCean, Sorry. :)
[13:04] <Simulator> Ah sorry
[13:04] <gaelfx> is the flash plugin included with Chrome only included on 32-bit chrome?
[13:04] <maddog320> ActionParsnip, erm not to shore im a newbie sorry
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> maddog320: lspci | grep -i vga    will see
[13:04] <dom_> ActionParsnip,thanks a lot .i think you are right
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: there is 64bit flash too, it's in the partner repo
[13:05] <dom_> i just need a 3d acc```
[13:05] <maddog320> ActionParsnip, ill go look now
[13:05] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: yeah, I know, but it can't download in China for some reason, or at least it's incredibly slow
[13:05] <jp_wanN> ActionParsnip: Isn't it possible to just put the two commands into brackets or sth like that?
[13:07] <llutz_> jp_wanN: ( sleep 10 ; whatever -option )
[13:07] <maddog320> ActionParsnip, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:07] <empiric> guys i wnat to migrate data from old plesk to new plesk
[13:07] <empiric> how can i
[13:07] <oCean> empiric: ask the plesk maintainers?
[13:08] <empiric> where
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> what's plesk?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> jp_wanN: not sure to be honest, coud try:  sh -c 'sleep 10 && gmusicbrowser -play'       as the command
[13:08] <oCean> empiric: maybe from the site/sources where you downloaded the software?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> !info plesk
[13:09] <jp_wanN> llutz_: doesn't work (not with Alt+F2)
[13:09] <sae> MonkeyDust: I think it is part of KDE
[13:09] <oCean> empiric: there is even an ##plesk channel in this network, so try /join ##pleask
[13:09] <oCean> err
[13:09] <oCean> /join ##plesk
[13:09] <Jwl81> hi, does anyone know how do I get japanese characters showing on ubuntu server? I currently have 2 problems, 1 i can't see japanese file names (they show up as random alphabets and numbers) 2 my samba share sees that too.
[13:09] <jp_wanN> ActionParsnip: Thanks, works :)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> jp_wanN: np :)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> jp_wanN: seems you can only have one command, but we can work around it ;)
[13:10] <m477> how run terminal on 12.04 :/ commands like terminal doesnt work ...
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> m477  gnome-terminal
[13:11] <gameid> m477: ctrl-alt-t
[13:11] <jp_wanN> ActionParsnip: Yes, I had a similar problem some time ago and there i used a script but now i know i don't have to :)
[13:11] <m477> no graphic menu is very bodering
[13:12] <belkinsa> Is there a way to only use one folder that is on your main drive and have it always updating the same folder on another drive (i.e connected USB drive) everytime you update a file in that folder?
[13:12] <Jwl81> does anyone know how do I mount a drive to show japanese characters? i tried 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137' but it doesn't help
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> belkinsa  ln -s
[13:13] <belkinsa> I figured it was that.  Thanks.
[13:13] <dan__> dan
[13:13] <ThinkT510> m477: hit the super key and type in "ter", first thing for me, i usually add it to the launcher
[13:13] <Guest55174> ter
[13:15] <Mayazcherquoi> Is it possible to reserve, say, like 5% CPU? So a program can't cause my Ubuntu to crash?
[13:16] <belkinsa> Does the drive that you want to make a symbolic link have to be the same file system type?
[13:16] <Mayazcherquoi> belkinsa: No.
[13:16] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[13:17] <madlatvian> you an in other unix operating systems
[13:17] <llutz_> belkinsa: you cannot create symlinks on non-unix fs
[13:17] <alankila> Mayazcherquoi: can you clarify. the process scheduler normally dumps programs that use a lot of cpu into the low-priority statuses
[13:17] <belkinsa> So, that means FAT?
[13:17] <alankila> Mayazcherquoi: so any other program that in general uses less cpu is given priority and therefore it may even be hard to tell that a cpu hog is running
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> belkinsa: and NTFS
[13:18] <Mayazcherquoi> alankila: Well, VirtualBox was just then killing my CPU. It took like 5 minutes to get into CTRL+ALT+F1, another 10 to log in, and another 5 to kill the process.
[13:18] <alankila> Mayazcherquoi: you may have been out of memory rather
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Mayazcherquoi: set the assigned ram to the virtual system to a lower value
[13:18] <alankila> because no matter what virtualbox does, if it has orindary priority it can at most take 50 % of your cpu
[13:18] <belkinsa> How to undo a cut after a paste?
[13:19] <Mayazcherquoi> alankila: I seriously doubt that. Considering it was only taking up 400Mb of my RAM (I have 2GB).
[13:19] <Jwl81> Why does Japanese Character Filenames appear as question marks in my ubuntu server command line? I've installed the fonts… 'sudo apt-get install ttf-takao'
[13:19] <B|tchX> what editor belkinsa
[13:19] <belkinsa> Nevermind.
[13:19] <Mayazcherquoi> And what are you guys talking about? I've symlinked to an NTFS drive...
[13:20] <belkinsa> Well, it's you basic file manger on Ubuntu 12.04.
[13:20] <belkinsa> the graghical one
[13:20] <stefg> Hi room, did anyone already manage to successfully unmap the F10 keybinding ... i tried gconf-editor, dconf-editor and the keyboard settings applet ... but hitting F10 (to quit mc) still brings up that annoying contect menu
[13:21] <B|tchX> ln -s /media/externaldrive
[13:21] <ThinkT510>  belkinsa nautilus is default
[13:21] <belkinsa> Yeah
[13:21] <belkinsa> I know.
[13:21] <jrib> stefg: it used to be in the preferences menu for gnome-terminal
[13:22] <stefg> jrib: in 12.04 it seems to be set in a gazillion places ... disabling it in the gnome-terminal profile doesn't do anything
[13:22]  * stefg consideres this as a bug
[13:22] <belkinsa> I did a cut and paste and somehow deleted those files but I cannot see them in the trash.
[13:22] <potzblitz> i have updated to 12.04 via the update manager. after reboot the upd mgr says that an update procedure has not properly been completed. partial update is suggested, but this fails. i tried apt-get update, in
[13:22] <potzblitz> stall -f, dist-upgrade, which don't help. what can i do else?
[13:23] <jrib> stefg: what does it do when you press it?
[13:24] <belkinsa> How to get these files back?
[13:24] <qwebirc7324> when i started the computer this morning, i noticed nautilus won't let me load my home folders (i.e. docs, downloads, etc) without my root password, what gives?
[13:24] <sae> potzblitz: which version did you update from?
[13:24] <B|tchX> now I'm in the mood to link my external and use that as home
[13:25] <stefg> jrib: i have mc running in a terminal... hitting F10 brings up the 'really quit?' dialog of mc (as expected), but at the same time a desktop context menu (like right-click) pops up on the desktop and steals focus
[13:25] <jrib> qwebirc7324: pastebin output of: ls -ld / /home ~ ~/Downloads ~/downloads
[13:26] <potzblitz> sae, 11.10
[13:26] <jrib> stefg: I see... some unity thing then.  No idea
[13:26] <jrib> stefg: maybe confirm that by trying xterm
[13:26] <belkinsa> Upgrading from versions are ussally not successfull.
[13:26] <jrib> belkinsa: please do not say nonsense
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> belkinsa  i did it without problems
[13:27] <cbox> i've never had an issue upgrading
[13:27] <cbox> i've done it to many machines
[13:27] <Jwl81> Hi, I need help with Japanese filenames in ubuntu server. They're all showing up as ???? and my samba share sees them as alpbabets+numbers. I suspect i need to mount it correctly but I've used 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137' and I've installed the fonts 'sudo apt-get install ttf-takao'
[13:28] <stefg> jrib: the major annoyance is that i already unbound it in two places (gconf/dconf-editor) ... and it still seems to be mapped /somewhere/
[13:28] <qwebirc7324> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/971381/ but, thunar does not have this problem...??
[13:28] <jrib> qwebirc7324: press "reload" in nautilus
[13:29] <jrib> stefg: is this you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37313/how-do-i-deactivate-f1-and-f10-keybindings :)
[13:29] <Mayazcherquoi> alankila: Okay, it's definitely CPU usage.
[13:29] <gaelfx> I'm using NFS to mount a drive from another computer on startup to my user's home folder, but sometimes it takes a really long time to get the file lists, other times it's very snappy. Currently, it's loading very slow, is there any way to figure out why?
[13:30] <a_b0y> i finally fixed all of my ubuntu problems!!!
[13:30] <qwebirc7324> jrib: ok i refreshed nautilus. i notice now, that it isn't nautilus that causes this, it's using the "places" section in gnome 3 classic mode.
[13:30] <jrib> qwebirc7324: ok
[13:30] <gaelfx> a_b0y: congrats
[13:30] <a_b0y> i should have just installed windows a long time ago, everything just works
[13:31] <stefg> jrib: i've read that... but it still didn't help... BTW when using xterm everything works as expected. somehow gnome-terminal ssems to pass the keypress to unity
[13:31] <jrib> a_b0y: do you have an actual ubuntu support question?  If so, please ask it
[13:31] <captine> Hi all.  Something weird happening on my machine.  not sure if this came through.  Am having repeated crashed when starting Skype.  Entire system freezes and need to hold button in to shut down.  Sometimes it opens, but am having repeated freezes while using 12.04 and am assuming all linked to skype
[13:31] <jrib> stefg: and you went to gnome-terminal → edit →  keyboard shortcuts, and unchecked "enable the menu shortcut key"?  I'm asking because you mentioned "gnome-terminal profile" earlier but this is not part of profile dialog
[13:31] <captine> anyone know how to check if skype is the cause (it is easy to tell when opening skype and iit freezes, but sometimes skype opens ok and later i freeze up
[13:32] <gaelfx> captine: 32 or 64-bit? how did you install skype?
[13:32] <captine> gaelfx: 64 bit and installed from skype website, if i remember correctly..
[13:32] <captine> sorry, from packages
[13:32] <gaelfx> captine: also, does the sound play properly when you open it or does it not make any sound at all?
[13:32] <neure> so im installing mini.iso
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> captine  skype is also in the partnet repo
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> partner*
[13:32] <neure> i am now at "choose software to install" page
[13:33] <captine> gaelfx: skype not making any sounds when opening and closing...
[13:33] <neure> which one is the minimal / smallest?
[13:33] <botcity> gaelfx: what is the drive? if it has to spin up it will have a delay
[13:33] <stefg> jrib: yup! I got used to the stupid default in gnome-terminal... that's teh fist thing i do agter installing mc... but it does nothing
[13:33] <gaelfx> captine: is it actually freezing or just making the system really slow to respond?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: 64bit skype is just 32bit with 32bit compatibility, you install a lot of 32bit extra libs when you install '64bit skype'
[13:34] <gaelfx> botcity: it's an HDD, but as I said, sometimes it loads fine, other times it takes a while, though once I open a file, such as a video, the video plays fine
[13:34] <captine> gaelfx: complete freeze.  no mouse movement.  hdd light on permanently.
[13:34] <gaelfx> captine: how long did you try to wait it out?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> captine  delete it and then reinstall from the canonical partner repo
[13:34] <captine> gaelfx: i had installed skype on 11.10, when did the  upgrade.  when searching software center for skype, there is a package there but it doesnt show installed.  perhaps I should somehow remove skype and re-install?
[13:35] <captine> MonkeyDust: how do i remove it?
[13:36] <gaelfx> captine: it might help, but when I was running the Beta, I had a similar problem, though only intermittently, I had to wait it out and then check that it was using pulse for the sound server
[13:36] <qwebirc7324> why would the gnome menu bar require a password to access home folders?
[13:36] <captine> gaelfx: is yours stable now though?
[13:37] <Jwl81> Hi everyone, I mounted a usb drive specifying utf8 but japanese file names are still all showing as ??? can anyone help me? i used the command '	sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137'
[13:37] <gaelfx> captine: yeah, I'm not having trouble with it right now, I downloaded from Skype website and installed
[13:37] <jrib> stefg: and if you press f10 on your desktop, does it do anything?  What about in an application like gedit or some other likely-unity-friendly one
[13:37] <REK_007> ok i have a made a script which requires root and I want to run it at every start up how do i go about doing this?
[13:37] <ToMo_> captine confirm freeze, but after about 30 secs it unblocks and everything works fine again
[13:38] <jrib> REK_007: what does the script do exactly?
[13:38] <REK_007> jrib: it "mount --bind <location> <target>"
[13:38] <stefg> jrib: F10 always pops up the context menu (depanding on application)... it simulates a right click. i could live with that if it wasn't mc's exit button
[13:40] <jrib> REK_007: why aren't you using /etc/fstab?
[13:40] <REK_007> jrib: cause its for mounting folders to another location
[13:40] <jrib> REK_007: so?
[13:41] <REK_007> jrib: i dont know how to put in a bind command on fstab
[13:41] <mi3> hello
[13:41] <sae> stefg: can you remap mc's exit key to something else?
[13:41] <mi3> can someone give me suggestions on how to install java on my ubuntu 12.04?
[13:41] <jrib> REK_007: read man page or google "mount bind fstab" (sorry that will be easiest for you I think, but let me know if your search results are confusing.)
[13:42] <captine> gaelfx: just removed and re-installed skype.  still no sound when loading, but under options it shows that PulseAudio is being used...
[13:42] <arinov> почему я не могу прочитать microsd карту?
[13:42] <najam> !
[13:42] <REK_007> ok jrib i will do so
[13:42] <captine> will wait and see how it lasts
[13:42] <ThinkT510> !java | mi3
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> [3~
[13:42] <jrib> REK_007: (I think you just pass "bind" as an option in fstab)
[13:42] <arinov> oh english support...
[13:42] <gaelfx> !ru | arinov
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> mi3: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[13:43] <tN> jrib: Or simply put 'mount --bind /whatever /wherever' into /etc/rc.local on boot.
[13:43] <jrib> tN: eww rc.local
[13:44] <tan_> hello
[13:44] <countfuzzball> jrib: rc.local is the best thing since sliced bread. :P
[13:44] <qwebirc7324> jrib: any ideas? i have narrowed this down to the places folder. If i just run nautilus, I get full access without a password. if I use the places menu, i need access..
[13:44] <mi3> ActionParsnip, these are all browser plugins, I need the java runtime, like I should be able to open .jar files
[13:44] <neweruser123> hello
[13:44] <neweruser123> i need some help
[13:44] <jrib> qwebirc7324: I don't know
[13:44] <vsilv> exit
[13:44] <gaelfx> !ask | neweruser123
[13:45] <eutheria> is mutter not the unity window manager anymore?
[13:45] <neweruser123> i downloaded amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run but i dont know how to install it
[13:45] <countfuzzball> neweruser123: make it executable and then run it in a terminal.
[13:45] <stefg> sae: mc can be used by [esc}+[number] (for dumb terminals) so esc+0 always works. but i would have to retrain my "wrist memory" and i have other boxen without unity, so this isn't really an option
[13:45] <neweruser123> how do i do that
[13:45] <neweruser123> i only get kubuntu yesterday
[13:46] <sae> neweruser123: please have a look at this wiki: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[13:46] <neweruser123> so what Am I looking at
[13:47] <neweruser123> i just want to double click  and install
[13:47] <countfuzzball> neweruser123: should be similar to windows, just rightclick on it, go to properties or somesuch and change it to executable.
[13:47] <neweruser123> ok il try
[13:47] <countfuzzball> Then double click it and select 'run in terminal'
[13:47] <sae> neweruser123:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[13:49] <aselox> Hello, can anyone help me with this: http://lh.rs/aEw63Tylnnd3 ?
[13:51] <sae> aselox: what is at that link?
[13:51] <OerHeks> aselox what is your need for help?
[13:51] <`prixon> hello
[13:51] <aselox> a video of my problem
[13:52] <OerHeks> I just see a moving terminal .
[13:52] <OerHeks> aselox, pleae explain
[13:52] <OerHeks> *please
[13:52] <aselox> look at the border of the terminal
[13:54] <aselox> it's a graphic problem
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> aselox  describe what's wrong
[13:56] <OerHeks> aselox please explain?
[13:57] <aselox> MonkeyDust, if i move a windows like the video the border is not regular like a lag in the update of the screen. I thought it was a driver problem but the system doesn't suggest me another one
[14:00] <sloop666> ？
[14:00] <ThinkT510> sloop666: perplexing eh?
[14:00] <chu> sloop666: Yes?
[14:01] <neweruser123> i made the file executable
[14:01] <neweruser123> but its stil not woking
[14:02] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: perhaps some background info might help
[14:04] <neweruser123> basically i have no audio
[14:04] <neweruser123> A75-D3H mobo
[14:04] <neweruser123> A6 APU
[14:05] <neweruser123> HDMi connection, to monitor built in speakers
[14:05] <escott> neweruser123, why did you think making something executable would help with the sound?
[14:05] <ThinkT510> escott: he may be building up to that
[14:05] <neweruser123> no that was the AMD driver i am trying to install
[14:05] <neweruser123> i downloaded it from the site its a .run file
[14:07] <neweruser123> no wait I dont even know why im downloading the AMD driver
[14:07] <neweruser123> the monitor is fine
[14:07] <neweruser123> I just want sound working
[14:08] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: what does alsamixer show?
[14:08] <escott> neweruser123, also what is the output of "sudo lshw -C sound"
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> neweruser123  in a terminal, type alsamixer - if you see MM (mute), go there and press m
[14:09] <tiziano> ciao
[14:09] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: word of warning: installing stuff from outside the repos is an almost surefire way to cause dependency issues and break your system
[14:10] <tiziano> !list
[14:10] <gaelfx> neweruser123: did you check in sound settings to see if HDMI audio is an available device?
[14:10] <ThinkT510> !it | tiziano
[14:10] <neweruser123> no MM in alsamixer
[14:10] <neweruser123> can someone do team viewer with me
[14:10] <neweruser123> i realy dont understand this
[14:10] <ThinkT510> neweruser123: i'll take a look
[14:10] <neweruser123> ok
[14:12] <seizer> k
[14:13] <m477> unity is based on compiz?
[14:14] <escott> m477, yes
[14:15] <m477> so that is why it crashes all the time
[14:15] <OverkillGuy> did not know about unity
[14:15] <OverkillGuy> but sure, it explains a lot
[14:16] <clausen> I get lots of messages like this in my syslog:
[14:16] <clausen> May  6 10:16:31 computer kernel: [ 2595.359503] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[14:16] <clausen> May  6 10:16:31 computer kernel: [ 2595.359526] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[14:16] <clausen> I don't have any disk called sdb
[14:16] <gaelfx> !pb | clausen
[14:17] <clausen> (nor any external devices attached)
[14:19] <OverkillGuy> is xfce really lighter than the usual desktop environments ?
[14:19] <clausen> OverkillGuy, I don't feel like it is any lighter
[14:19] <clausen> but if you like the "old" gnome, then maybe you prefer it to Unity et al
[14:19] <OverkillGuy> you read my mind ;)
[14:20] <clausen> :)
[14:20] <OverkillGuy> I'm hesitating to try xubuntu as a live usb
[14:21] <clausen> OverkillGuy, I'm using xfce directly -- apt-get install xfce4
[14:21] <clausen> it's a bit buggy though
[14:21] <OverkillGuy> I expected as much ;)
[14:21] <clausen> (maybe I should go back to 10.04 LTS)
[14:21] <OerHeks> !nounity
[14:22] <clausen> OerHeks, oh, thanks!  I didn't know about the gnome-panel option
[14:22] <OverkillGuy> neat yeah
[14:23] <OverkillGuy> but the fallback had some weird issues (probably easy to solve but did'nt have the time)
[14:24] <OverkillGuy> so I ended up installing Linux Mint
[14:24]  * OverkillGuy is ashamed
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> OverkillGuy  i use fallback too, no problems here
[14:24] <sirknight> neweruser123,  hows it going?
[14:25] <sirknight> anyone need help?
[14:27] <Halabund> I got the Ubuntu Precise Live CD with the intention to install the OS, but the Live CD won't boot.  After about 5 minutes, the booting process stalls.  The ubuntu logo is in the middle of the screen, but nothing happens any more.
[14:27] <Halabund> Has anyone encountered this problem?
[14:27] <clausen> Halabund, maybe the CD is corrupted?
[14:27] <Halabund> clausen, it isn't corrupted, I verified it after burning.
[14:28] <clausen> Halabund, can you switch virtual console with ctrl-alt-f1, -f2, -f3, etc.?
[14:28] <clausen> sometimes there's useful info there
[14:28] <clausen> also, I think the live CD has some kind of safe mode
[14:28] <clausen> with more jibberish displayed (useful for debugging)
[14:28] <UidX> Where can i ask english grammar questions?
[14:28] <Halabund> clausen, alright, I'll try that.  Any other advice?  It takes up to 10 minutes to get to the point where it freezes, and another 5 minutes to boot into Windows and come back and ask again ...
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> UidX  in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:29] <Halabund> UidX, ##English
[14:29] <UidX> Thanks Halabund!
[14:29] <clausen> Halabund, nothing else comes to mind
[14:30] <OverkillGuy> in the end I found my bluetooth works on ubuntu  and not on mint
[14:30] <OverkillGuy> (out of the box of course)
[14:30] <sirknight> anyone need help?
[14:30] <ritesh> hii
[14:30] <ritesh> how r u..
[14:32] <sirknight> Halabund,  remake the cd , put it on a different formamt cd/dvd and use k3b (windows and linux good)
[14:32] <kyubutsu> dpkg locked. "error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> does anyone know what service or even OS that redtube/extremetube/youtube etc use? Was thinking of setting up a server with my own video files
[14:32] <escott> !aptlock | kyubutsu
[14:32] <clausen> sirknight, why would halabund do that?
[14:34] <ritesh> hiii i am new to linux can any tell me good site for linux administration
[14:34] <adison> @ActionParsnip try here http://designerfied.com/753/10-multimedia-cms-youtube-clones.html
[14:36] <joe_smack> i'm on a new 12.04 fresh updated, installed ati driver using jockey-thing and it says activated, but i have no 3d :(
[14:36] <sirknight> clausen, halabund, k3b it checks the iso AND th cd/dvd for you   no work arounds just download the program and run ONLY THIS app .. until its done.. oh check the box where it say" verify the data"
[14:36] <joe_smack> do i need to set boot option nomodeset?
[14:36] <escott> ritesh, debian-administration.org
[14:37] <rabbi1> just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04..... after restart my system says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" if i skip this the error is same with /tmp /home etc...... :(
[14:37] <gaelfx> joe_smack: what do you mean you have no 3d?
[14:37] <joe_smack> checking with system settings/details says vesa under graphics :(
[14:37] <ritesh> thanks... escott
[14:38] <joe_smack> running 3d games is slooow :(
[14:38] <gaelfx> joe_smack: what does fglrxinfo say?
[14:38] <joe_smack> what it's sposed too :p sec
[14:38] <joe_smack> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 5450
[14:39] <gaelfx> joe_smack: sure looks like the driver is working
[14:40] <sirknight> clausen,  i have found it to be the simple yet very powerful tool for anyone to use.. newbie windows user can "just work " like they're are used to
[14:40] <joe_smack> indeed, but nothing in dmesg bout dkpms or whatever that command was :p
[14:41] <ritesh> can any1 tell me what is X11
[14:41] <ritesh> please
[14:41] <joe_smack> and very slow 3d, and system settings says vesa
[14:41] <Lolostudio> Hi. I'm  currently trying to make a new installation from live USB of Xubuntu (11.10), so i'm cleaning my partitions...I had 2 swaps and some bugs, so I've deleted everything except my /home and my ntfs windows 7 part. The problem is that now I have two different blocs of "free space", one of 25 go and one of 1,5 go; if I want to extand my home part, I can only take the little part of 1,5go (this space is placed "af
[14:41] <joe_smack> i have faster 3d with free drivers
[14:41] <zykotic10> ritesh: X11 = Xorg = the underlying GUI environment
[14:41] <xubuntu-guy> Hello, Everyone... i'm having a problem with xubuntu (on the live cd) everytime i try to delete a file, Thunar says "unable to find or Create trash directory"
[14:41] <joe_smack> so i am sure is vesa
[14:42] <Lolostudio> (I forgot to say i've just created the new / of 15go and the swap of 2 go)
[14:42] <ritesh> thans ZYkotic10
[14:42] <ritesh> what does acutally used for
[14:42] <ritesh> x11
[14:43] <escott> ritesh, it is used to draw things on the screen. without it you dont have a gui environment. you just have a text console
[14:43] <The_BROS> why hotkeys are not working in Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:43] <The_BROS> Gnote
[14:43] <xubuntu-guy> this also^
[14:43] <gridbag> this Flash/avatar bug is completely outrageous: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[14:44] <ritesh> escott actually i was working on making jar executable in ubuntu
[14:44] <xubuntu-guy> I used 9.04 for the longest, so i decided to uprgade to 12.04 (the next LTS release) now a bit of bugs here and there
[14:44] <joe_smack> also the ati driver (post-release) in jocke is not working :(
[14:44] <Lasher> why no inxi in 12.04?
[14:44] <escott> ritesh, and what does that have to do with X11?
[14:44] <kyubutsu> flashplugin update SLOW [http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.235.orig.tar.gz
[14:44] <The_BROS> How to make hotkeys work on Gnote?
[14:44] <gridbag> In adobe's final flash release, they flip the blue & red so people look like blue avatar people.  some nvidia hw acceleration bug.
[14:45] <xubuntu-guy> kyu, use flashaid. quick easy installation https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[14:45] <OerHeks> gridbag, solved here
[14:45] <escott> !pm | ritesh
[14:45] <kyubutsu> that update is reason dpkg locked on me.
[14:45] <Shanth> i'm using backtrack 5 r2 and dual boot with win7 , now the problem is i can mount and use a particular partition with root but that particular partition is not able to be mounted in standard user account
[14:46] <ritesh> sorry
[14:46] <escott> !bt | Shanth
[14:46] <ritesh> to sent PM
[14:46] <escott> !backtrack | Shanth
[14:46] <gridbag> OerHeks, good for you. i'll come over to your place to watch youtubes.
[14:46] <xubuntu-guy> Shanth fstab entry?
[14:46] <ritesh> actually i was making jar executable in ubuntu
[14:46] <Shanth> thanx
[14:46] <ritesh> means on double click it should execute
[14:47] <OerHeks> gridbag the work around was to disable hardware-acceleration.
[14:47] <ritesh> but i got errir
[14:47] <gaelfx> joe_smack: then use the free drivers?
[14:47] <xubuntu-guy> Still looking for a solution to problem: "everytime i try to delete a file, Thunar says "unable to find or Create trash directory"
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ritesh: if you make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications it will appear in dash
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu-guy: does the folder ~/.local/share/Trash exist?
[14:48] <OerHeks> xubuntu-guy, that happens in a live
[14:48] <xubuntu-guy> yes, i tried deleting and recreating it several times
[14:48] <gaelfx> joe_smack: in System Settings->Details, it would say unknown if fglrx were'nt working
[14:48] <ritesh> acually on double click jar file working
[14:48] <xubuntu-guy> its just thunar that seems to not recognize it
[14:49] <ritesh> but after installing X11
[14:49] <madlatvian> anyone in bris a grad????
[14:49] <escott> xubuntu-guy, it might be owned by the wrong userid. what user owns that folder?
[14:49] <ritesh> so it has created intrest in me ...
[14:49] <ritesh> what is actually x11 is?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> madlatvian: can you rephrase the question please
[14:50] <Lolostudio> Hi. I'm  currently trying to make a new installation from live USB of Xubuntu (11.10), so i'm cleaning my partitions...I had 2 swaps and some bugs, so I've deleted everything except my /home and my ntfs windows 7 part. The problem is that now I have two different blocs of "free space", one of 25 go and one of 1,5 go; if I want to extand my home part, I can only take the little part of 1,5go (this space is placed "af
[14:50] <escott> ritesh, what is your native language? you might have better luck in a channel where you can speak your own language instead of english
[14:50] <kyubutsu> yay .. 20kiB/s.. what bottleneck..
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> kyubutsu: 20kb/s with what app?
[14:51] <joe_smack> it says unknow when i use free drivers, but vesa now :( but when i use free drivers i still don't have enough performance :(
[14:51] <joe_smack> far from it :(
[14:51] <ritesh> actually.. i am first time chatting in Ubuntu server
[14:51] <kyubutsu> ActionParsnip: dpkg download flashplugin update  :(
[14:51] <DrHalan> hey guys. i'm running a virtual server on OpenVZ with linux 2.6.18 and would like to upgrade to precise. is there anyway to do that? maybe run a virtual server on that serverß :D
[14:51] <Fat-Thing> aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') broadcom-sta-dkms <--- can anyone explain what does it mean?
[14:51] <LiquidDemocracy> How can I upgrade to 12.04 under KDE? In Gnome there is an update manager.. Where is it in KDE?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> kyubutsu: probably adobe's servers being busy
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: run:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:52] <escott> LiquidDemocracy, from the command line you could do-release-upgrade
[14:53] <LiquidDemocracy> Why doesn't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work any longer?
[14:53] <LiquidDemocracy> No new release found.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: it does, try it
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: thats not how you get the new release
[14:53] <LiquidDemocracy> No it doesn't.
[14:53] <oCean> LiquidDemocracy: you have to pass the -d option to do-release-upgrade
[14:53] <LiquidDemocracy> Tried it 5 times now.
[14:53] <kyubutsu> whew.. 5 minutes. download completed
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: it does, run it and you will update but not change release
[14:54] <himanshu_m786> hi i want to ask something that is there any way that ... i make a folder and and want see it on a particular workspace and not on all the workspace ...
[14:54] <oCean> LiquidDemocracy: normally LTS->LTS upgrades wait till next .1 release ie 12.04.1
[14:54] <oCean> LiquidDemocracy: dist-upgrade was never meant for release upgrades
[14:54] <LiquidDemocracy> sudo do-release-upgrade -d ?
[14:54] <xubuntu-guy> escott, so i changed the permissions on the trash folder, yet the problem persists... http://oi49.tinypic.com/2a7ygwp.jpg
[14:54] <oCean> LiquidDemocracy: yes
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: -d is for (d)evelopment releases, of which there isn't one
[14:54] <LiquidDemocracy> I didn: No new release found.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | LiquidDemocracy
[14:56] <oCean> ActionParsnip: actually from an LTS point of view 12.04 is still developement, several pages describing the -d option as required to upgrade at this point
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: from the man page of apt-get http://pastie.org/3868848
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> oCean: seems weird, precise is stable
[14:56] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, that link is for Ubuntu. Never had problems with Ubuntu. Now I am using Kubunt.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: use the server method, its DE independant
[14:57] <oCean> ActionParsnip: I agree, but (for example) http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts
[14:57] <Varsuchi> anyone know how to change the settings of wlan0 ot static? there is no config options in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:57] <himanshu_m786>  hi i want to ask something that is there any way that ... i make a folder and and want see it on a particular workspace and not on all the workspace ...
[14:57] <gridbag> OerHacks : Switching to HTML5 also fixes the Avatar-Looking-People bug, but there are some sites like charlierose.com which immediately run an embedded Flash which wedges, so the "[] Enable HW acceleration" box doesn't work.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Varsuchi: network manager allows you to set static IP
[14:57] <Duality> hi
[14:57] <ArtVandalay> hey
[14:57] <Varsuchi> action: any CLI way?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Varsuchi: you can instead use the interfaces file you described
[14:57] <shredding> Does anyone now what's it with the ~/.ssh folder? I'm trying to push something to git and becoming a Permission denied (publickey).
[14:58] <ArtVandalay> can anyone from china plz pm me, i need help with a little something
[14:58] <shredding> I'm not really sure whats the problem.
[14:58] <Duality> someone is trying to log in to  my ubuntu server with root, but i have root disabled, so nothing to worry about no?
[14:58] <Varsuchi> action: but there isnt any config options for wlan0 in there... where is that information stored?
[14:58] <Varsuchi> action: i tried network manager, however, it wont let me save changes and never prompts for sudo (root)
[14:59] <LiquidDemocracy> Still don't get it.
[14:59] <mneptok> Duality: you cannot login to the root account in Ubuntu by default. either locally or ssh.
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Varsuchi: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; kdesu kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   set: Prompt=normal  to: Prompt=lts    save the new file, close kate then run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:59] <LiquidDemocracy> I always used dist-upgrade in the past.
[14:59] <Wawaiftyid> Hello. Who knows a lossless video converter from MP4 to OGG in Ubuntu?
[14:59] <LiquidDemocracy> What command now do I have to type?
[14:59] <himanshu_m786> can anyone help me out ...??
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: I gave the command for you to Varsuchi, see the large text above
[15:00] <gridbag> I like the Adobe Flash Player "Do you want to abort the script? Yes/No", where no matter how hard you pound the mouse, neither button does anything.  This experience is like Windows98.
[15:00] <mneptok> LiquidDemocracy: 08:54 < oCean> LiquidDemocracy: dist-upgrade was never meant for release upgrades
[15:00] <escott> Wawaiftyid, impossible
[15:00] <zykotic10> Wawaiftyid: lossless - highly unlikely
[15:00] <Wawaiftyid> escott, why?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Varsuchi: if you use network manager icon in the panel you can set the interface to manual and define address and DNS servers there
[15:00] <mneptok> LiquidDemocracy: dist-upgrade has *never* moved between versions. ever.
[15:00] <Duality> mneptok, cool :) thanks, i've enabled root before though, and then tried to disable, (can't log in as root so i assume it's ok?)
[15:00] <LiquidDemocracy> mneptok, yes, but then what was?
[15:00] <aeurielesn> Hi guys I haven't been able to use public key authentication following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys - it keeps asking me repeatedly for my passphrase. Even using 'ssh -i' did't work. Anyone willing to help me figure out what's wrong?
[15:00] <Wawaiftyid> ok, minimun-loss then
[15:00] <gridbag> How hard is it for a program to exit(1), anyway?
[15:00] <Lolostudio> Hum, i cant manage to fix it...I still have 25 go of free spaces I can't use to enlarge my /home partition, and a 1,5 go bloc of free space I can use to do so...but if I do so, i will still have a 25go bloc of wasted, non-used space...idea?
[15:01] <escott> Wawaiftyid, you can't convert between two different lossy codecs and expect it to be lossless unless there is some kind of isomorphism between the representations, which there won't be for mp4 and ogg
[15:01] <LiquidDemocracy> sudo do-release-upgrade does not find a new release.
[15:01] <zykotic10> Wawaiftyid: Theora video isn't near the quality of MP4
[15:01] <sae> LiquidDemocracy: I think you do get  kernel updates with it though
[15:01] <mneptok> Duality: you might consider installing denyhosts
[15:01] <Varsuchi> action: if I just add my wlan0 optjons to interface will it just override any network manager settings?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: did you edit the file first?
[15:01] <LiquidDemocracy> sae, I want 12.04
[15:01] <Varsuchi> /etc/network/interface
[15:01] <Varsuchi> i mean
[15:01] <Wawaiftyid> All I want to do is to convert some videos from MP4 to OGG. I don't want to loss too much quality. Can that be possible?
[15:01] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, no
[15:01] <jrib> LiquidDemocracy: what release are you on?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Varsuchi: if you define the network in the interfaces file then the interface will not be managable by network manager
[15:02] <escott> Wawaiftyid, just use the maximum quality setting available to you in ogg123
[15:02] <LiquidDemocracy> jrib, 11.10
[15:02] <oCean> jrib: good question
[15:02] <Varsuchi> action: i see. thats why there is no config options in there then.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: i did say to edit the file, it was quite clear. I even gave the command to open it as writable
[15:02] <zykotic10> Wawaiftyid: why do you want OGV?
[15:02] <mneptok> LiquidDemocracy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:02] <zykotic10> Wawaiftyid: if this video or audio?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: kdesu kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[15:03] <Varsuchi> action: what icon are you referring to, the one in settings or one thats installed after the cfommand you sent?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: clear as day....
[15:03] <Duality> mneptok, looks usefull thanks :)
[15:03] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, sorry I missed that line before
[15:03] <Wawaiftyid> zykotic10, video. I have choose .flac for audio. I want to move to free software.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: its in amongst the others
[15:03] <LiquidDemocracy> kdesu kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades command not found
[15:03] <Wawaiftyid> escott, I will search information about ogg123
[15:04] <LiquidDemocracy> What is kdesu ?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: just run your text editor in the usual way to edit the file as root
[15:04] <zykotic10> Wawaiftyid: have you tried oggconvert?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: kdesudo kate     /    kdesudo kwrite
[15:04] <madlatvian> who fight against communism and capitalism
[15:04] <ThinkT510> LiquidDemocracy: kde equivilent of gksudo
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> madlatvian: wrong channel dude
[15:04] <sae> madlatvian: priika
[15:05] <Wawaiftyid> zykotic10, yes, but it does a very bad sound convertion for deep sound.
[15:05] <LiquidDemocracy> Never used gksudo
[15:05] <LiquidDemocracy> What is the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[15:06] <ThinkT510> !gksudo | LiquidDemocracy
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: sudo is ONLY for CLI based commands like apt-get, cp, mv etc
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: gksudo and kdesudo are for GUI apps (but can be used for CLI too) and setup the environment correctly
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: running GUI apps with sudo will break your OS by damaging ownerships of files
[15:06] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, thx
[15:07] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: technically i'd say s/OS/user account/ to make your above statement true
[15:07] <Lolostudio> Hum, i cant manage to fix it...I still have 25 go of free spaces I can't use to enlarge my /home partition, and a 1,5 go bloc of free space I can use to do so...but if I do so, i will still have a 25go bloc of wasted, non-used space...idea?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: true, but observed functionality will be impaired ;)
[15:08] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: end result would be the same ;)
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: but you are right
[15:09]  * mneptok welcomes .mm to the Internet.
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+question/184814    another example, the bottom most few replies are most interesting
[15:10] <escott> Lolostudio, move/resize the partitions as necessary to get what you want?
[15:10] <rebourn> hello
[15:10] <madlatvian> gello
[15:11] <root___> running ubuntu on android
[15:11] <rebourn> rebourn@laftof:~$ sudo chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
[15:11] <rebourn> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[15:11] <rebourn> what am I doing wrong?
[15:11] <alankila> rebourn: you probably forgot to mount your disk image in /mnt/gentoo or something.
[15:11] <zykotic10> rebourn: are you trying to chroot do a different architecture?  32 vs 64 bit type thing?
[15:11] <escott> rebourn, 64bit vs 32bit version incompatibility
[15:11] <mneptok> alankila: Gentoo?
[15:12] <rebourn> arent they both 32b?
[15:12] <alankila> ah excuse me. The error is indeed "Exec format error"
[15:12] <Lolostudio> escott: that's the point; i can't! I can take the little bloc of 1,5 go to enlarge my /home, but i can't use at all the 25go bloc of free space remaining!
[15:13] <alankila> sorry about that. Somehow I thought it said "no such file or directory". I guess I've seen that about 1000 times too many. :-/
[15:13] <rebourn> how do I solve this?
[15:13] <escott> Lolostudio, why dont you paste the output of /proc/partitions so that we can know what you are seeing
[15:13] <alankila> rebourn: uname -a, is the kernel you currently run 32-bit? is the /mnt/gentoo/bin/bash 64-bit?
[15:13] <rebourn> i think they are  both 32b
[15:13] <mneptok> alankila: i was wondering why you used /mnt /gentoo as a mount point suggestion for Android and Ubuntu.
[15:14] <alankila> mneptok: and why would you wonder about that? I am just echoing back what rebourn said
[15:14] <escott> Lolostudio, or sudo parted -l /dev/sda
[15:14] <mneptok> alankila: sorry, my mistake.
[15:15] <rebourn> Linux laftof 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[15:15] <rebourn> im guessing 32 on the ubuntu
[15:15] <alankila> rebourn: okay, that would be a 32-bit kernel... so yeah, probably your mount point has 64-bit binaries and they won't work.
[15:15] <escott> rebourn, that is a 32bit system
[15:15] <Lolostudio> escott: Modèle: ATA ST3250310AS (scsi) - Disque /dev/sda : 250GB - Taille des secteurs (logiques/physiques): 512B/512B
[15:15] <Lolostudio> Table de partitions : msdos
[15:15] <Lolostudio> Numéro  Début   Fin    Taille  Type     Système de fichiers  Fanions
[15:15] <Lolostudio>  1      32,3kB  143GB  143GB   primary  ntfs                 démarrage
[15:15] <Lolostudio>  3      184GB   249GB  65,0GB  primary  ext4
[15:15] <Lolostudio> Modèle: Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 (scsi)
[15:15] <FloodBot1> Lolostudio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <Lolostudio> Disque /dev/sdb : 4063MB
[15:16] <mneptok> rebourn: no guess, it's i386 with a PAE kernel.
[15:16] <escott> !paste | Lolostudio
[15:16] <Lolostudio> oh, sorry
[15:16] <rebourn> the gentoo im after should also be 32bit
[15:16] <alankila> rebourn: what is the opinion of the "file" command about /mnt/gentoo/bin/bash
[15:17] <Lolostudio> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/971579/
[15:17] <rebourn> ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped
[15:17] <rebourn> 64
[15:17] <escott> rebourn, not going to work. boot a 64bit livecd if you want to bootstrap 64bit gentoo
[15:18] <rebourn> im having troubles with liveCDs
[15:18] <rebourn> the crash my display at the start of the installation
[15:18] <escott> Lolostudio, so you should have about 40 gigs space between 143GB and 184GB for a primary partition, and maybe a gig or less between 249GB and the end of the disk
[15:18] <rebourn> some horrible textures and colors
[15:18] <escott> !nomodeset | rebourn
[15:19] <rebourn> got it
[15:20] <rebourn> will give it another shot
[15:20] <rebourn> does gentoo have a 32 bit installation?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> rebourn: ask in #gentoo
[15:20] <rebourn> right :)
[15:20] <rebourn> thanks
[15:21] <matthewL> ubuntu is awesome!
[15:21] <rebourn> im just starting out with linux
[15:21] <rebourn> 3 days 3 headaches, but loving it so far
[15:21] <Lolostudio> escott: but i can't do it, i can't change what's remaining...the 1 is my windows, which is 143gb, the number 3 is my /home, so I have 40 gb remlaining as you pointed out, but I can only use these 40 go to make the swap and the /, i can't take them as /home.
[15:22] <najam> ls -l
[15:22] <ThinkT510> Lolostudio: are you booted into the system or a livecd?
[15:22] <Lolostudio> ThinkT510: i'm on a live xubuntu cd
[15:22] <escott> Lolostudio, so move or resize the partition. you keep saying you cant, but the problem is evidently you dont know how. so use gparted which is on the livecd and select the partition then from the menu there should be an option to move or resize
[15:23] <escott> Lolostudio, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[15:23] <ThinkT510> Lolostudio: what are you trying to do exactly? just resize partitions?
[15:23] <aaas> anyone have any experience with raid0 on ubuntu using one of the raid systems that come on most motherboards these days, how easy is it to implment, did you notice speed increase (for a file server for 4gb)
[15:23] <tbrown2012> LOLostudio: How do you like xubuntu I had used it for a little bet. But it was eating a lot of memory on my computer so I change to lubuntu:) I love it:)
[15:23] <Lolostudio> escott: I know how to do this...but when I do it, it says that "Maximum partition size" is my actual size + 1,3 gb maximum
[15:24] <phillip> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[15:24] <escott> Lolostudio, you have to move it first
[15:24] <alankila> aaas: a lot of us do not use motherboard-integrated raids at all. It's usually just a software driver trick with a little bit of bios support to it
[15:24] <escott> Lolostudio, resizing is ONLY to grow at the end. you cannot grow the front of a partition. you need to move it to where you want it to start and then grow it
[15:24] <tbrown2012> phillip: Please stay on topic
[15:25] <enzotib> phillip, have you some spare semi-colon for me too?
[15:25] <escott> aaas, use mdadm don't use fakeraid
[15:25] <phillip> Sorry
[15:25] <Lolostudio> escott: oh...so if i want to resize my /home i need to put it before the big block of 25go free space, right?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> escott: sounds like a charity - faker aid ;)
[15:25] <aaas> escott alankila is it worth it?
[15:25] <alankila> aaas: an actual design for raid is a separate card you plug the drives into with on-board memory, and specialized driver that works with that particular type of raid.
[15:25] <alankila> aaas: no, it's probably not worth it
[15:26] <escott> aaas, fake-raid is not worth it. mdadm is
[15:26] <tbrown2012> phillip: It all Cool:) What kind of linux distro are you running
[15:26] <ThinkT510> Lolostudio: perhaps a screenshot of gparted will clear things up
[15:26] <aaas> this would be for a fileserver with heavy load
[15:26] <escott> Lolostudio, you need to move it forward to make it so that you can grow from the end until it is as big as you need
[15:27] <alankila> aaas: raid is useful, but just use the mdadm thing against it. The mobo solutions do not have real hardware support and therefore the regular mdadm should be better
[15:27] <Lolostudio> ThinkT510: okay
[15:27] <escott> Lolostudio, if you want a 50GB home it needs to start at 200GB so that 200-250 can all be /home
[15:27] <ingenieroariel> Hello channel, is it possible to copy packages from the multiverse into a PPA in Launchpad?
[15:27] <ingenieroariel> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jai-imageio-core/1.2-1ubuntu1
[15:27] <ingenieroariel> or alternatively to make a PPA depend on multiverse
[15:28] <aaas> alankila escott how much of a pain would it be if a drive fails... do you need same type, same speed?  i keep two backups already of data of course
[15:28] <Othi`> hi, i have a htpc connected to my tv, worked for like a year, now i get 'no signal' after the ubuntu splash screen - this is my xorg log, it says no screens found... http://paste.ubuntu.com/969794/
[15:28] <Othi`> although just now it says [    27.105] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[15:28] <alankila> aaas: well as a rule a new drive to be added to an existing raid has to be at least as large as the one it is replacing.
[15:28] <alankila> if there is excess space, you might choose to just waste it
[15:29] <escott> aaas, with fake-raid it would have to match. mdadm is more flexible in that regard, but you would need to have a matching size for the mdadm device, but mdadm can be put above or below the partition table giving you lots of flexibility
[15:29] <aaas> when we say 'the same' are we talking +/- a gig or so?   i dont want to buy a different brand and realize that it's too small by 400meg or something
[15:30] <solarbaby> I plan on installing Ubuntu 12.04 to my 2009 Mac Mini and I was wondering if I still have to flash firmware and deal with efi boot loaders and all that?
[15:30] <alankila> aaas: well if you really talk about raid0, if a drive fails we generally think all data on the array was lost and it's time to rebuild
[15:30] <escott> aaas, that would be a problem with fake-raid.
[15:31] <alankila> aaas: so you can opt to reduce disk partition sizes slightly when you make your new raid0 to match the slightly smaller capacity of either drive
[15:31] <aaas> alankila if a dirve fails i just replice the drive, use the remaining working drive and copy everything back, thats what 'rebuild' means?
[15:32] <mantas> Swap:  2025468k total,        0k used,  2025468k free,  1062428k cached
[15:32] <alankila> aaas: well in that case you probably think about raid1 or some other level with redundancy
[15:32] <alankila> I thought you said raid0 earlier
[15:32] <escott> aaas, *YOU* said you were going to use raid0, but you are describing raid1
[15:32] <aaas> alankila i did, no i have backups
[15:32] <aaas> no no i have the backups
[15:32] <Lolostudio> escott: oh, i tried something else in gparted; i can now resize it from backward anf from forward, i think it's what i wanted...thanks :)
[15:32] <aaas> i want raid0
[15:32] <aaas> but if a drive fails i grab the copy from the backup
[15:32] <aaas> not the raid
[15:33] <aaas> my question is that if one drive fails the other drive is still available to use?
[15:33] <Lolostudio> escott: (but i hadn't to move it, seems i can resize in any sense directly O_o)
[15:33] <ThinkT510> Lolostudio: wouldn't happen to be neweruser would you?
[15:33] <aaas> both drives dont die because one does
[15:33] <aaas> ?
[15:33] <alankila> aaas: disk failures are usually independent
[15:33] <aaas> alankila ok just making sure
[15:33] <alankila> of course you might have a power spike in PSU that fries everything
[15:33] <escott> alankila, they are actually strongly correlated by environmental factors
[15:34] <alankila> escott: true enough, but at least I have not had multiple drives fail the same day yet
[15:34] <alankila> same week, yes. :-/
[15:34] <aaas> how often do they fail
[15:34] <zykotic10> aaas: if you use RAID0 and one drive dies, you loose everything - RAID0 is not fault tolerant in any way
[15:34] <aaas> for you
[15:34] <mneptok> aaas: in RAID 0, there is no redundancy. if one drive physically fails, the entire array goes down.
[15:34] <escott> aaas, if you have raid0 and a drive fails, you might as well consider the entire thing to have failed, replace the bad hardware and make a NEW raid structure. thats what we mean by replace. new structure on 1/2 the same hardware
[15:34] <madlatvian> hi
[15:34] <Lolostudio> ThinkT510: hum, i've been on ubuntu for about 4 or 5 monthes and i can manage to get what i want inside, but i never understand that silly partioning step... :'(
[15:34] <alankila> aaas: well, the thing with RAID is that you tend to choose identical disks from identical time to use in identical conditions under identical load
[15:34] <aaas> but ill have a backup
[15:34] <STOUN> Hi , can someone help me ? Im using ubuntu 12.04 and just did some wrong setting on my admin account with compiz ... now when I log into my account I see just black background and launcher dont start ... I can do nothing there , is there some possible way how to restore it ?
[15:34] <aaas> so it wont matter
[15:34] <aaas> sure
[15:34] <aaas> i lose everything but i have a backup
[15:35] <ThinkT510> Lolostudio: partitioning is easy when you know how
[15:35] <alankila> aaas: so all the drives in a RAID array have a higher than usual chance to fail close to each other because so many factors happen to become controlled
[15:35] <mneptok> aaas: LVM offers the exact same functionality as RAID 0, is built-in to the kernel, and is far easier to set up.
[15:36] <Lolostudio> ThinkT510: maybe, but it doesn't look intuitive and confident at all x')
[15:36] <aaas> i cant remember the last time a drive failed on me, im wondering how much faster the drives would fail, my drives have all lasted until the net upgrade
[15:36] <aaas> mneptok thanks ill look into it
[15:36] <alankila> aaas: statistically there is about 6 % chance per year for a drive to fail
[15:36] <ThinkT510> Lolostudio: seems intuitive to me, just resize by dragging
[15:36] <alankila> 20 % chance if that drive displays any SMART errors
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> aaas: really, we have a few thousand server and we replace about 3 a month, ish
[15:37] <toscho> hi, I want to change some keyboard behaviours, but I'm on lubuntu, so I can't rely on the gnome-settings for keyboard.
[15:37] <toscho> 1. ctrl-alt-bksp for terminate
[15:37] <mneptok> aaas: after 3 decades playing with computers, i have learned to never ever say things like, "i have never had _____ fail on me." because now it will.
[15:37] <escott> aaas, LVM does JBOD very well. i dont think it does stripping so if you want the performance increase from stripping over JBOD then you need mdadm
[15:37] <toscho> 2. keycodes 166 and 167 for home and end
[15:37] <toscho> 3. caps-lock should be compose-key
[15:37] <alankila> aaas: that works out to around 10 years of life before 50 % of drive population has failed
[15:37] <toscho> 4. power-button should invoke logout dialog
[15:38] <alankila> aaas: but there's degree of uncertainty about these figures. I got them from the google harddisk survey
[15:38] <ThinkT510> !enter | toscho
[15:38] <Lolostudio> oh, btw, just got a message after resizing, "Failure to boot is most likely to occur if you move the GNU/Linux partition containing /boot, or if you move the Windows system partition C:." is it normal since my boot flag isn't on the sd3 that i've resized, but on the sda1 i haven't touched at all?
[15:39] <aaas> yeah im just hammering this poor two disk (1tb,2tb) server from the network constantly, i would think a raid0 or something would be abetter setup logistically
[15:39] <escott> Lolostudio, the boot flag doesnt matter to linux
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Lolostudio: the boot flag doesn't mean anything to grub
[15:39] <alankila> aaas: drives do not suffer from head movement very much, so usage does not matter, at least if drive temperatures do not rise significantly because of it
[15:39] <alankila> ideal drive temperature is somewhere between 40 to 50 C iirc, again statistically
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> aaas: you using SQL?
[15:40] <omerta> hy
[15:40] <Lolostudio> escott:  oh...so what do i have to do if i want to resize it? was it just a bot message, or will i really break something if i continue? :s
[15:40] <rabbi1> upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, but after restart, doesn't load ubuntu ... says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" How to get my ubuntu back ?
[15:40] <aaas> ActionParsnip no, just access for movies, backup coppying, grabbing files across the network
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> aaas: thats not hammering it much
[15:40] <omerta> what is the easy way to learn ubuntu??
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> omerta: use the OS
[15:41] <solarbaby> is anybody else running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Mac?
[15:41] <escott> Lolostudio, you just moved a /home partition. so it doesn't have a /boot. its just a reminder to those who move / or /boot and forget to reinstall their bootloader
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> omerta: same way you learned WIndows
[15:41] <ThinkT510> omerta: use it, vms are great to practice on
[15:41] <aaas> ActionParsnip yeah probably only when the backups take over
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> aaas: then its only reading the disk, writes are what really work drives
[15:41] <omerta> ok ..but are many commands
[15:42] <omerta> :D
[15:42] <STOUN> Hello , can you help me ? I changed profile on my ubuntu 12.04 from unity to something another using compiz . Now I see just black background and system is unusable . Now Im logged to guest account . Is there some possible way how to restore my admin acc ? Thanks for answers
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> aaas: try a large SQL database with a query to search and replace commands, takes a few days to run with near 100% disk utilisation
[15:42] <aaas> ActionParsnip how much real-world increase in speed would occur on a raid0, say in copying a 16 gig file
[15:42] <Lolostudio> escott: oh, great. I'm applying changes and i'll try to install, thansk a lot escott and ThinkT510 :)
[15:43] <alankila> aaas: you can ideally read and write sequentially doubly as fast
[15:43] <sae> rabbi1:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747835
[15:43] <alankila> aaas: but that assumes disks were the only limiting factor to performance. Even if you have gigalan, you can only read/write 100 MB/s over that
[15:43] <alankila> or well, 120 MB/s as it's 8 bits per byte
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> aaas: should be a lot faster, depends how many drives you RAID
[15:44] <alankila> aaas: to clarify, that was for going from 1 drive to 2 drives
[15:44] <omerta> anyone from romania??
[15:44] <aaas> alankila eys gigalan, pcie the dives are probably the limit
[15:44] <solarbaby> The Apple support desk refuses to help me replace osx with Ubuntu 12.04
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> solarbaby: are you surprised?
[15:44] <solarbaby> hahaha :)
[15:44] <escott> aaas, on the other hand if you have multiple readers and their reads are statistically spread out over the disks jbod might outperform raid1 because jbod might avoid seeks (each drive just read sequential blocks independently)
[15:44] <alankila> aaas: a single harddisk can often read/write around 80 MB/s today. I'm afraid your network will limit you before your raid will.
[15:44] <STOUN> can you help me ? I changed profile on my ubuntu 12.04 from unity to something another using compiz . Now I see just black background and system is unusable . Now Im logged to guest account . Is there some possible way how to restore my admin acc ? Thanks for answers
[15:44] <omerta> quit
[15:45] <aaas> alankila no i said the disks (pre-raid) are limited
[15:45] <aaas> limiting8
[15:45] <alankila> aaas: oh, my mistake
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> STOUN: log off and log in to Unity2D and you can fix things
[15:46] <solarbaby> ActionParsnip: know any mac people in here?
[15:46] <xubuntu-guy> still Dealing with this bug, guys http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg3230460.html
[15:46] <tbrown2012> Am installing wineHQ and I dont know if it frozen or done downloading But I dont see it in the Application
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> solarbaby: a few instal ubuntu on mac
[15:47] <solarbaby> ActionParsnip: I was hoping there was a channel just for people like me, but I can't find one
[15:47] <ThinkT510> tbrown2012: are you using the ubuntu repo?
[15:47] <aaas> well thank you all for your help alankila ActionParsnip  mneptok escott  zykotic10 ...im still between raid0,lvm,or dont-bother but i defintely am more informed and have a lot to think about
[15:48] <alankila> aaas: it's often perfeclty acceptable to use multiple disks over multiple mountpoints, if you can segregate your disk needs according to different kinds of files or purposes
[15:48] <tbrown2012> ThinkT510: Am using lubuntu:) I just installed it in the software center:)
[15:48] <alankila> aaas: so that way if a drive fails it takes down only its own filesystem
[15:48] <ThinkT510> tbrown2012: i prefer synaptic to the software centre
[15:49] <alankila> aaas: before long we have one more option: btrfs. It will do raid at the filesystem level, so you can add more drives after the fact and use per-directory level raid0, raid1, raid5, or whatever you want
[15:49] <ThinkT510> tbrown2012: more verbose output
[15:49] <STOUN> ActionParsnip, thanks Im gonna try it
[15:49] <tbrown2012> ThinkT510: What kind of program is that:) What about the Terminal is that a good way to install application
[15:49] <solarbaby> Any Mac Ubuntu users in here willing to chat with me??
[15:50] <ThinkT510> tbrown2012: if you are familiar with apt-get then yes, the terminal is great
[15:50] <Zig> Someone know how to add a user to the sudoers file?
[15:50] <alankila> Zig: add user to the sudoers group
[15:50] <alankila> Zig: that should allow sudo access
[15:50] <rabbi1> sae: thanks, i did dpkg --configure -a... now it asks me to wether to keep currently installed version or install the maintainer's version. what to do ?
[15:51] <alankila> ah the group is called sudo
[15:51] <sae> rabbi1:  no warranties, but I would go with maintainers version
[15:52] <rabbi1> sae: but default is "keep the current one" i just hit that  :(
[15:52] <tbrown2012> I need to restart and uninstall some files then
[15:52] <nannes> Wifi Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b/g/n   on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS......... What to do to make it work?
[15:52] <solarbaby> alright i guess there is no help for me today
[15:52] <solarbaby> :(
[15:52] <sae> rabbi1: ok, see how it goes
[15:52] <kio_http> Hi, I am looking for an (preferably GUI in QT4) application to view detailed S.M.A.R.T information of the hard drive. A bit like hdd-life for notebooks on Windows. I need total spin time etc not just temperature
[15:52] <Zig> alankila: thanks
[15:53] <rabbi1> sae: oooooooooops, very hot here,. hope my system will be up and running....
[15:53] <fidel_> kio_http: disk utility should offer smart-values
[15:53] <kio_http> fidel_: I said QT4 ... also note I use Kubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:53] <sae> rabbi1: are you on a laptop?
[15:54] <fidel_> kio_http: "preferable" ;)
[15:54] <rabbi1> sae: yeah, chating on laptop, but it's my desktop where i tried to upgrade ... whya ?
[15:54] <rabbi1> sae: processing was halterd because there were too many errors :(\
[15:54] <sae> rabbi1: which one is getting hot?
[15:55] <kio_http> fidel_: I am not going to install gnome stuff as I do not want so many gnome dependencies ... according to http://blog.volker-lanz.de/2010/05/29/new-in-kde-partition-manager-1-1-ii-smart-status-reports   it works but the version in precise is 1.0.3 which does not have smart
[15:55] <sae> rabbi1: any options provided?
[15:55] <cookiemon5ter> fidel_: is disk utility just a frontend to something else ?
[15:55] <rabbi1> now on reboot, X11 initialization failed.... :(
[15:56] <cookiemon5ter> if so is there a qt frontend to that
[15:56] <aaas> is there any program that does general checks and emails you if there are problems with yoru system, i've tried munin and nagios, but i'm curious if there are other options, maybe something that takes serious logfile errors and mails y ou, or runs system check and mails you if there are problems? just curious about the system monitoring solutions people are using
[15:56] <sae> rabbi1: do you see the grub menu? there is usually a fail safe entry
[15:56] <fidel_> cookiemon5ter: yep
[15:57] <sigma_> halo
[15:57] <fidel_> cookiemon5ter: well - no - but the executable is called different iirc
[15:57] <sigma_> halo
[15:57] <CMz> hello, how do I install the "whois" feature in Ubuntu using the sudo command so I can 'whois' domain names? Thank you
[15:57] <sigma_> jest ktoś z polski ;)?
[15:57] <fidel_> cookiemon5ter: in cli 'palimpsest'
[15:57] <fidel_> !pl > sigma_
[15:57] <ThinkT510> !pl | sigma_
[15:57] <escott> !info whois | CMz
[15:58] <cookiemon5ter> fidel_: never heard of it
[15:58] <CMz> thanks
[15:58] <escott> aaas, smartctl for drives there are other tools for server management i think nagios is one?
[15:58] <CMz> when I type whois, I'm told about 4 packages... whois, jwhois, cwhois and gwhois.. which one would I install?
[15:59] <sigma_> sorry how i can switch for my language ?
[15:59] <CMz> rwhois is the first one, not just whois
[15:59] <aaas> escott anything that is a bit more broad than just 'smart disks'
[15:59] <escott> aaas, nagios
[15:59] <ThinkT510> sigma_: /join #ubuntu-pl
[16:00] <josten> I just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 LTS.  How do I get the dash to remain visible on the desktop, but hide when an application is started?
[16:00] <nannes> Wifi Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b/g/n   on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS......... What Can I do to make it work?
[16:00] <aaas> escott yeah im running nagios, but i think i might uninstall and go with munin, nagios is just a pain to setup
[16:00] <ThinkT510> !bcm | nannes
[16:01] <rabbi1> guys i am moving out of ubuntu ;(
[16:01] <nannes> ThinkT510: there's not 4313 in that list :(
[16:02] <cog> How do I get this junk off my screen?  I tried to load egoboo in 12.04 & it slowed down tremendously, then I got a terminal up and killed the unresponsive game and now about 25% of my screen looks terrible.
[16:02] <cog> I can barely see the scroll for example
[16:02] <cog> Would you like a screenshot?
[16:02] <cookiemon5ter> cog: was the resolution changed ?
[16:03] <cog> yes
[16:03] <sae> rabbi1: sorry to hear that. How about starting from a live DVD and safe your data to an external drive. After that install Ubuntu from scratch
[16:03] <cookiemon5ter> cog: try relogging
[16:04] <cog> No dice.
[16:04] <cookiemon5ter> kio_http: have you checked with #kde to see if there are any kde applications
[16:04] <rabbi1> sae: can;t help.... nothing is cakewalk in here ... I always see lot of people talking about lot of problems every day... What's the point living with so much trouble... ? i wasted my whole day just to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.....
[16:05] <rabbi1> sae: out of record, is fedora a good choice ?
[16:05] <josten> cog: try going to system settings, displays.  check the resolution.  I have mine set on 1280x800.
[16:05] <Belial`> rabbi1, fedora is good, but i always come back to ubuntu.
[16:05] <kio_http> cookiemon5ter: Not yet ... KDE is awesome but partition tools have really been neglected since migration to KDE4. Maybe CLI would be the only solution.
[16:05] <rabbi1> Belial`: LinuxMint ?
[16:06] <sae> rabbi1:  How long have you been with 10.04?
[16:06] <rabbi1> 2 years, started with 8.04 ....
[16:06] <rabbi1> sae:
[16:06] <cookiemon5ter> kio_http: if you don't want to use a gnome utility the gnome disk utility uses udisk
[16:06] <Fat-Thing> how can i activate my broadcom STA wireless driver!? i always got this error check /var/log/jockey
[16:06] <nannes> ThinkT510: there's not 4313 in that list
[16:06] <ThinkT510> nannes: sorry, i use intel, works out of the box for me
[16:07] <rabbi1> I have almost spent some 80 days of my total time, solving problems.....
[16:07] <aaas> anyone try ssd caching on ubuntu like bcache or flashcashe?  was it worth it?
[16:07] <sae> rabbi1: during those 2 years, how did it feel?
[16:07] <escott> aaas, if you only stream the data once it wont help
[16:08] <rabbi1> I know the Live CD works good enough, but that's good for people who are installing ubuntu for first time. but the upgrade has problems and bugs....
[16:08] <aaas> escott what do you mean 'stream'
[16:08] <sae> rabbi1: what kind of problems? HW? SW?
[16:08] <escott> aaas, yours was a media streaming server right?
[16:08] <rabbi1> I can even see lot of people raising lot of bugs, sad.... :(
[16:08] <ThinkT510> rabbi1: i've always fresh installed
[16:08] <aaas> escott oh no, its lots of things but it does stream
[16:08] <mneptok> !offtopic
[16:09] <escott> aaas, caching only helps if file reads/writes are correlated across time. if you read once and then not again for a few hours it wont do much for you
[16:09] <rabbi1> sae: infact both, I use AMD with nvidia, initially i had to sit a complete day to may my nvidia graphics card work ....
[16:09] <mneptok> rabbi1: specific support questions and answers on this channel, please
[16:09] <aaas> escott i see, which is why caching the os drive is most helpful
[16:09] <rabbi1> ThinkT510: correct, that's better, should checkoff upgrade button from the update-manager, sucks man
[16:10] <viril> question: grub error 15 on an 9.x ubuntu. fired up 11.04 livecd, fdisk -l shows 2 disks with linux raid autodetect. how to recover boot please?
[16:10] <escott> aaas, on a server most of the OS could fit in ram, but yes caching the os drive would be "better" bcache benchmarks are great for things like sql. lots of reads and writes to the same area of the disk
[16:10] <ThinkT510> viril: the 9.x series is no longer supported
[16:11] <aaas> escott ah i see, have you used it before?
[16:11] <viril> ThinkT510: i understand but any idea on how to go about this? this is an email server and i need to get solution asap. thank you.
[16:11] <escott> aaas, you might have a multi-terrabyte database but only the recent data is updated, or maybe data arrives from market sector X and all of the records related to that sector see lots of updates
[16:11] <sae> mneptok: where can I talk to rabbi1 so it doesn't interfere with the channel content?
[16:11] <mneptok> !offtopic | sae
[16:12] <viril> ThinkT510: system is running on ibm x226
[16:12] <jll_> hi all, i have some problems with my wifi connection and would really appreciate some help
[16:12] <sae> mneptok: thank you
[16:12] <rabbi1> mneptok: I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, and got this error on reboot ...... "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" and later i followed this "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747835" and after a while now it says "Processing was halted because there were too many errors......  What next ? any suggestion ?
[16:12] <ThinkT510> viril: i can't help you unless you use a supported version of ubuntu
[16:13] <mneptok> rabbi1: did you try the solution proposed by rcampi on that thread?
[16:14] <rabbi1> mneptok: yeap, after that i get  ""Processing was halted because there were too many errors"
[16:15] <chiliblue> does anyone know of something that can view .dbx (outlook mail box files) in linux? Just trying to avoid rebooting
[16:15] <chiliblue> outlook express files
[16:16] <mneptok> rabbi1: when running dpkg or when booting?
[16:16] <ThinkT510> chiliblue: not sure if thunderbird or evolution support those, i doubt they do
[16:16] <rabbi1> mneptok: while running dpkg ....
[16:16] <chiliblue> ThinkT510, pretty sure Evolution doesn't
[16:17] <ResQue> how can i find out where a shortcut on the unity menu bar points to. the files location
[16:17] <mneptok> rabbi1: i'd start by booting a live CD or other live media and running fsck against any partitions you have.
[16:17] <sae> ResQue: you mean in the launcher?
[16:18] <rabbi1> mneptok: i got 10.04 CD, will that do ?
[16:18] <ResQue> sae: yes
[16:18] <mneptok> rabbi1: yes.
[16:18] <rabbi1> mneptok: will give it a shot... .thanks...  fsck what?
[16:19] <sae> ResQue: what a coincidence, I just happened to type that command: cd /usr/share/app-install/desktop/
[16:19] <mneptok> rabbi1: fsck any and all partitions you use in Ubuntu. especially /
[16:19] <Onixs> how to disable X on 12.04
[16:19] <ThinkT510> !text | Onixs
[16:20] <ThinkT510> Onixs: if just while running: sudo service lightdm stop
[16:21] <ResQue> sae: haha that is luckly, is this location used by unity to store all the icons for applications shortcuts, even the ones not on the unity toolbar at the moment,
[16:21] <Fat-Thing> command for knowing bash version?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Fat-Thing: dpkg -l | grep bash
[16:22] <Fat-Thing> !bash
[16:22] <sae> ResQue: it looks like that
[16:22] <zsolt> hi there!i tryed latest nvidia driver,but my desktop freezes,how may I install an older release?it is a nvidia 9400m g
[16:22] <ResQue> sae: thanks
[16:26] <Duality> i am trying to setup ssh keys, and i am confused what is my primary machine ? the thing i am on at the moment or my server ?
[16:26] <Duality> http://paulkeck.com/ssh/
[16:26] <rabbi1> mneptok: no luck, that disk is damaged......
[16:26] <Fat-Thing> how to unpack a .deb file?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Fat-Thing: ar x filename.deb
[16:27] <adison> s
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | matthijs
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> oops
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> matthewL: ^
[16:28] <matthewL> thanks, ubottu
[16:28] <escott> Duality, just run ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id user@remotehost from the machine you will use to log into remotehost
[16:28] <Duality> escott, thanks :)
[16:29] <Duality> escott, i run those with sudo ?
[16:29] <zsolt> help me please!I'm stuck.how is it possible to install older nvidia driver?
[16:29] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: actually, my shell requires that I login as root, as I am running irssi from an Android command line.
[16:29] <four04> I don't think you sudo for keygens
[16:29] <rabbi1> mneptok: I am getting this after i reboot " **(Plumouthd:115): Warning **: command line .................. "
[16:30] <Duality> ZsoL, you could go to the download site pick a older source and install via console/terminal
[16:30] <kala__> selam türk var mı
[16:30] <four04> If you cannot get a graphical web browser you could sudo apt-get install links and use that
[16:30] <zsolt> got configure error
[16:30] <LjL> !tr | kala__
[16:30] <kala__> ubottu: thanks
[16:30] <matthewL> four04: or w3m, too.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> matthewL: how do you mean android command line? Using the terminal emulator in android and running it there?
[16:31] <four04> yes
[16:31] <osse> I can't find the "Search for files" dialog. In 11.10 I could find it by searching for "search" in the dash but it seems to be gone :O
[16:31] <zsolt> tryed to add a maverick line to sources.list,i use precise,than force version in synaptic,got errors :(
[16:31] <muffins> when using find in linux anyone know what something like /home/this/..     /that means?
[16:32] <four04> @zsolt if you're using _maverick_ in _precise_ I cannot help you...
[16:32] <xangua> osse: you mean the nautilus search function ¿
[16:32] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: I'm running ubuntu from an image file (Ubuntu for Android), but I'm ssh-ing into the Android device as root, then I run the mounting/running image file script.
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> muffins: / is the lowest point of the file system
[16:32] <irenicus09> hi guys anyone can recommend a good system log analyser?
[16:32] <zsolt> ok,if it is a bad idea,what do you recomend?
[16:32] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: in effedct, yes, i run ubuntu from the Android terminal.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> matthewL: not tried andchat?
[16:33] <xangua> zsolt: mixing repositories is always bad idea
[16:33] <zsolt> true
[16:33] <sae> matthewL: would you mind sharing where one can get an image file for Android?
[16:34] <matthewL> sae: google Linux on Android.
[16:34] <matthewL> sae: brb.
[16:34] <Duality> escott, i thank you verry much! that was easy! :)
[16:35] <zokier`> I got backtrace for xorg (intel driver) segfault, what should i do with it
[16:35] <matthewL> sae: http://linuxonandroid.blogspot.com/
[16:35] <zsolt> well what do you recomend?tryed propietary driver,but can't find my kernel source tree,since I use older kernel in precise,because the new kernel doesn't support my notebook
[16:35] <muffins> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[16:35] <sae> matthewL: thanks a lot!
[16:36] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: actually, yes, I've tried AndChat, and it works great!
[16:36] <osse> xangua, no I don't. Afaik you can only simply search for files whose filename contain what you search for. There was a seperate dialog where I could choose to match filename against a regex, that it does not contain foo, permissions and so on.
[16:36] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: I wanted to run linux CLI programs from my Android phone with a bluetooth keyboard1
[16:36] <osse> xangua, in the old days it was under "Places -> Search for files" and in 11.10 it was available by that name from the dasg
[16:36] <matthewL> sae: you are welcome!
[16:37] <zsolt> the latest nvidia driver is buggy,it freezes my desktop
[16:37] <hanning> hey
[16:37] <jshriver> greetings how do you create a boot USB using Ubuntu?  It use to be under System but there is no menu in 11.04 anymore
[16:38] <jshriver> basically want a live Ubuntu 11
[16:38] <jshriver> use to do it easily in 10
[16:38] <zsolt> try unetbootin
[16:38] <EvilResistance> jshriver:  look up 'USB Startup Disk Creator'
[16:38] <jshriver> What is the command for it?
[16:38] <four04> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[16:38] <four04> then unetbootin
[16:38] <EvilResistance> jshriver:  standby, i have to open synaptic for the default disk creator
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> jshriver: install unetbootin then run that from dash
[16:38] <jshriver> ok ty
[16:38] <osse> xangua, ahh, after pressing Enter in the regular search thingy a green Plus appears and I can specify my criteria. My bad :)
[16:38] <hanning> i am looking for information on hardware acceleration for AMD's Fusion platform, or at least a place to ask that question again ;)
[16:38] <mikeinessex> hi people im new to linux ubuntu 12.04 infact im new to linux all round, can anyone help me install  theme
[16:39] <osse> No it's not what it was
[16:39] <popey> matthewL: where'd you get that? UfA?
[16:39] <matthewL> popey: what is that?
[16:39] <popey> matthewL: you said you had Ubuntu for Android.
[16:40] <matthewL> popey: yes. http://linuxonandroid.blogspot.com/
[16:40] <four04> @mikeinessex I have no idea how to install themes, I've tried numerous times and I've had no success.  I'd google it.
[16:41] <mikeinessex> four04 thanks for the reply. i have tried instructions from google searches yet the themes are never in tweaks to use
[16:41] <matthewL> popey: it is incredible!
[16:41] <xangua> four04: mikeinessex open your personal folder, Control+H to show hidden directories, search for ".themes" and extract the themes there; ".icons" for icon themes
[16:42] <mikeinessex> yh i did that i extracted in downloads then pasted into theme folder which i had to make with terminal
[16:42] <mikeinessex> but still no luck
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> matthewL: why run it though. I don't see the benefit.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> matthewL: apart from to say that you can
[16:43] <osse> xangua, I found it. I had to install the gnome-search-tool package
[16:43] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: yes, what I was after was something more mobile than a laptop or netbook--my phone and a bluetooth keyboard for CLI programs!
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> matthewL: you can use a bluetooth keyboard on the device already and run the native apps
[16:44] <tbrown2012> I was wondering has anyone installed DirectX under Ubuntu Before:) If so how can I start doing that am going to try to install it with WineHQ I hope it works
[16:45] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: yes, android has C++ and Perl/Python scripting abilities.
[16:46] <bm27_> So, I turned my computer on and Flash content is refusing to run :-/ I've uninstalled/reinstalled through ubuntu software center and downloaded the APT from Flash's site. My problem is in both FF and Chromium.
[16:46] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: however, to get a true g++ or javac experience, full linux is needed. Which linux on android is able to provide!
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> matthewL: makes sense :)
[16:46] <tbrown2012> I was wondering has anyone installed DirectX under Ubuntu Before:) If so how can I start doing that am going to try to install it with WineHQ I hope it works
[16:46] <matthewL> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> tbrown2012: wine is an abstraction fr directx, so installing it makes no sense at all
[16:48] <tomek_> hi
[16:48] <tomek_> how change colors of file manager?
[16:49] <tbrown2012> ActionParsnip: For your information it does not Install it all the way it just a patch of files that are connect to each other: Like a gun without bullits if that make sense. Am trying to install updates to it so running it in WineHQ is a smart way to go:)
[16:49] <roothorick> When I'm using full 3D Unity, I have redraw issues in Firefox. I'll hit page-up and the screen won't actually change but when I scroll it'll scroll from a page up
[16:50] <roothorick> this is ONLY when using compiz though
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> tbrown2012: you don't need it, its already there for all intents and purposes
[16:50] <bm27_> tbrown2012: According to Wine HQ it seems like there is a lot of work to be done for DirextX
[16:50] <roothorick> what package do I file THAT bug under?
[16:50] <roothorick> could it be firefox? compiz? X? Something with Unity maybe?
[16:50] <zokier`> sounds like video driver issue
[16:50] <tbrown2012> bm27_ Thank you some one notice the main point:)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> roothorick: i'd say compiz, as it draws the app windows
[16:51] <escott> roothorick, i would disable compiz and see if it goes away. but its probably compiz related
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> roothorick: does it affect all windows?
[16:51] <roothorick> ActionParsnip: as far as I've seen, just firefox
[16:51] <roothorick> ActionParsnip: but if I'm using unity2d, it draws just fine
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> roothorick: then its compiz
[16:52] <pac1> I installed phpsysinfo, but /var/www/phpsysinfo is missing.  previous versions had it in the file list.  precice doesn't
[16:54] <r3b3l10n> Whats up...
[16:54] <roothorick> apport doesn't want to let me file a bug :/
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> roothorick: run:  ubunty-bug compiz
[16:55] <ali_> hi, how can i query for synaptic progress from a command line, im trying to add unity progressbar to synaptic, and that's my missing part of the puzzle, thanks :)
[16:55] <r3b3l10n> anyne nows the greatest win 7 exploit?
[16:56] <Othi`> ctrl alt delete
[16:56] <roothorick> ActionParsnip: that's what I did, it told me I should seek support elsewhere
[16:56] <OerHeks> r3b3l10n, not really an ubuntu-support issue, is it?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> roothorick: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; apt-cache policy compiz       thanks
[16:57] <r3b3l10n> yes @OerHeks
[16:57] <strk> any idea why update manager doesn't prompt me to dist-upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 ?
[16:58] <Daekdroom> strk, it's not going to prompt automatically until the release of 12.04.1
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> strk: try:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:58] <strk> Daekdroom: ah! thanks
[16:58] <Daekdroom> Until then you have to 'make' it offer you the upgrade
[16:58] <jrib> strk: see the release notes on how to upgrade (if you don't want to wait)
[16:58] <strk> good policy
[16:59] <roothorick> ActionParsnip: what's that commandline utility to pastebin off a pipe again?\
[16:59] <nemchik> not ubuntu specific but im doing a project using the zip command and this is the command im using "zip -r /path/of/destination/file.zip /path/of/source/files/" and the zip im getting is in the right place, but it's contents are /path/of/source/files/[insert file or folder name here] when all i want is the files and folders in the zip, not deep inside multiple parent folders based on where it came from in my system
[17:00] <chicognu> i wish to load ubuntu instaled on my hd to my ram, is it possible ?
[17:01] <nannes> Hi. I've a pc without internet connection, I need to install on it some software with apt-get.   How can I download .deb files from another ubuntu-box, (including dependencies) and move them to the other one?
[17:01] <EvilResistance> chicognu:  you mean make Ubuntu RAM-only?
[17:01] <EvilResistance> chicognu:  not really possible
[17:01] <nyuszika7h> Hi
[17:01] <EvilResistance> not if its already installed (liveUSBs may allow it, but not fully)
[17:01] <nyuszika7h> Is the big and ugly Plymoth logo fixed already in 12.04?
[17:02] <nyuszika7h> Last time I tried (11.10?) it was still there.
[17:02] <nyuszika7h> (with proprietary drivers)
[17:02] <EvilResistance> nyuszika7h:  boot up a livecd and see
[17:02] <nyuszika7h> I need reboot to apply those drivers no?
[17:02] <nyuszika7h> If I reboot live CD everything is lost that I did on it
[17:02] <chicognu> EvilResistance: i wish to do the same as the live cd with the option --toram, but with the OS already installed in my hd
[17:05] <ClientAlive> what if I were to pose my question like this... ?   'What is the single, highest performance, way to share storage between kvm guests on a single box? I think that's really at the heart of what I'm seeking - not just sharing storage but the best, most lightweight and feature full way of doing so - regardless of the level of challenge it may present.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> nyuszika7h: there are fixes
[17:05] <inhyeoggim> hello
[17:05] <bm27_> I think my computer hates javascript...where should I start my troubleshooting journey?
[17:06] <OpenBSDT40> bm27_: turning off javascript?
[17:06] <roothorick> there's that too. Sometimes the screen just stops refreshing period
[17:06] <bm27_> OpenBST40: How would I go about doing that? this is happening accross all my browsers
[17:07] <OpenBSDT40> bm27_: use noscript for firefox
[17:07] <NoobTux> anysite for screenshots?
[17:07] <NoobTux> !screenshots
[17:07] <xubuntu> hola
[17:07] <OpenBSDT40> bm27_: there is likely a similar one for chromium, not sure about opera or others
[17:08] <xubuntu> hola
[17:08] <OpenBSDT40> !es | xubuntu
[17:08] <bm27_> OpenBST40: Yeah, I've only tried through Epiphany, Chromium, and FF
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> NoobTux: i've got an imgur upload script, it's like pastebinit for images :)
[17:08] <roothorick> "Force full screen redraws (buffer swap) on repaint" fixed the scrolling issues in firefox
[17:10] <nannes> Hi. I've a pc without internet connection, I need to install on it some software with apt-get.   How can I download ONLY THOSE (not the whole repo) .deb files from another ubuntu-box, (including dependencies) and move them to the other one?
[17:10] <OpenBSDT40> !aptoncd | nannes
[17:10] <alankila> nannes: if you copy them from /var/cache/apt/archives, and place them there on the other host, it might just work.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> NoobTux: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/imgur_upload; chmod +x ./imgur_upload; sudo mv ./imgur_upload /usr/bin
[17:11] <NoobTux> ActionParsnip, http://imagebin.org/211317 can u explain this for me? :(
[17:11] <Daekdroom> How to I remove duplicated entries in the set of applications Dash is showing me?
[17:11] <Daekdroom> *do
[17:11] <nannes> alankila: but they are different versions
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> NoobTux: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:11] <OpenBSDT40> Daekdroom: rightclick and unlock from launcher?
[17:11] <nannes> !offline
[17:11] <alankila> nannes: now you confused me.
[17:12] <Cyberkilla> Dash is rather slow for me, but I think it's just a symptom of an awful integrated ATI GPU :(
[17:12] <NoobTux> ActionParsnip, Lucid
[17:12] <Daekdroom> OpenBSDT40, what I'm saying has nothing to do with Launcher.
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> NoobTux: I can't see an issue, the wifi is connected and unblocked....
[17:12] <nannes> alankila: The pc from which I'd have to take them has a different version of ubuntu, than the pc which needs those packages
[17:12] <alankila> nannes: okay, I think I got it. See apt-get --download-only or something, no idea if you can force all deps
[17:12] <Daekdroom> I'm getting duplicated, non-working entries in the Dash application list.
[17:12] <OpenBSDT40> Daekdroom: ah, just got you
[17:13] <NoobTux> ActionParsnip, yeah it's working but using airmon-ng ain't possible! wireless ain't there i dunno sounds weird tho
[17:13] <Leiana> Hi I am trying to run ubuntu on my Acer Aspire One netbook. I have it set up on a USB stick. But I have a huge problem with the graphics
[17:14] <sirknight> Leiana,  i can help you here i have the same one
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> NoobTux: i'd ask in #backtrack-linux then, they will have experience and cracking wifi is offtopic here
[17:14] <Leiana> It's like taking up only the top half of the screen and every time I move the mouse it leaves weird trails behind the mouse
[17:14] <Tohuw> What is wrong with my syntax here: ufw allow on eth0 from any to 10.254.7.5 smbd
[17:15] <LiquidDemocracy> How can I enable IP routing on my machine? sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward gives "permission denied"
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: the sudo doesn't traverse the redircetion
[17:15] <SolarisBoy> 'on eth0' looks off
[17:15] <alankila> LiquidDemocracy: use a root shell, you fall into the redirect shell trap
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: echo "1" | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> alankila: no need if you use tee ;)
[17:16] <SolarisBoy> or sysctl
[17:16] <sirknight> LiquidDemocracy,  ad your self to admin lv gruop then try again, after that root lv
[17:16] <Tohuw> SolarisBoy: so what is the proper syntax for specifying the interface then?
[17:16] <NoobTux> hmmm i doubt if they'll help me there i've been there....i'm just wanna get my wifi detected tho nothing more or less this ain't about wifi hacking i bet it's still covered here in terms of configuring hardware hehehe i guess?
[17:17] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, no error this time.
[17:17] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: man I see u active 24/7 on this channel...I wonder whether you're a A.I or human :P
[17:17] <LiquidDemocracy> How can I verify now that routing is enabled?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> NoobTux: if your issue is with airmon then it is offtopic. Your wifi is connected and working
[17:17] <NoobTux> i guess u're right sorry my bad
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> Tohuw: off top im not sure - i know ufw is a wrapper around iptables and _everything_ is not possible (not saying what your trying to do is/isn't) but in general there are ways to set more complex rules.
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: i work stupid european shifts so I'm awake a lot but then asleep a lot, at all sorts of stupid times
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> Tohuw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> NoobTux: its cool :)
[17:18] <ariel__> can anybody tell me if adobe readers bugs is fixed in ubuntu 12.04
[17:18] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: keep up the good work! :P
[17:18] <OpenBSDT40> ariel__: ask adobe
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: you too :0
[17:19] <ariel__> openbsd whats there channel
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> ariel__: all software has bugs dude
[17:19] <Tohuw> SolarisBoy: I read and used an example from that documentation. I'm aware it has limitations, but the manpage specifically states you can specify an interface
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> ariel__: #openbsd
[17:19] <Elly1> -
[17:19] <OpenBSDT40> ariel__: any reason you need thier reader? can't use an open source pdf reader?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> ariel__: or #bsd
[17:19] <matelot> Question (12.04 Unity): I have installed WINE and an app (Foxit pDF Reader), how to launch the app ?
[17:19] <SolarisBoy> heh
[17:19] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, How can I verify now that routing is enabled?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: traceroute and ping.....
[17:20] <ariel__> no bui cant use an open source reader i just like adobe readers features
[17:20] <ariel__> can
[17:20] <OpenBSDT40> ariel__: in that case have fun contacting adobe
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> Tohuw: i guess in/out is what your missing then
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> as per the docs..
[17:21] <SolarisBoy> ufw allow [in|out] on eth0 from any to 10.254.7.5 smbd
[17:22] <Tohuw> SolarisBoy: I'll give that a shot, though the indication from the docs is that not specifying a direction defaults to allow in...
[17:22] <ariel__> actionparnsip what version are you on
[17:22] <SolarisBoy> well - afaik the manpage doesn't reference that type of usage - and then other than that you have these internet sites..
[17:24] <Tohuw> SolarisBoy: Yeah, I still get "wrong number of arguments". In the manpage, "ufw allow in on eth0 to any port 80 proto tcp" I am additionally taking advantage of ufw's ability to read from init.d.
[17:24] <SolarisBoy> Tohuw: i think to review the complete line again.. one sec
[17:24] <SolarisBoy> it still looks odd... imho
[17:25] <semitones_tea> Is there a way to make 12.04 login faster? It takes me about 20 seconds from when I enter the password to when I have a working desktop
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> 'ufw allow in on eth0 to any port 80 proto tcp' this is an example from the doc
[17:25] <alankila> ufw makes me sad.
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> me to
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> i don't get the point - iptables is not that bad...
[17:25] <alankila> I've tried to use it but each time ended up rewriting the commands into rc.local to do the firewalling manually
[17:25] <ceausescu> lol
[17:25] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: hardware specs?
[17:25] <OerHeks> semitones_tea, get a SSD, saves 10 seconds ( 20 sec from login is not bad)
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> atleast it seems more normal - in the case of ufw - they remove the need to know whats going on underneath - in turn - remove the actual know how - AFAIK
[17:26] <alankila> around the time you need to hack some MASQ or SNAT or DNAT or REDIRECT it becomes just untenable. And all the 100 chains it makes don't make me too happy either. Nice and extensible, they think. Opaque and obtuse seems more apt.
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> Tohuw: your syntax is still incorrect it appears
[17:27] <ubuntuBoot> !say a
[17:27] <ubuntuBoot> !seen ceausescu
[17:28] <semitones_tea> OpenBSDT40: I've got a hp pavillion dm4, I don't know the specs exactly
[17:28] <SolarisBoy> alankila: precisely
[17:28] <ubuntuBoot> hai sa va dau la muie ma
[17:28] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: most important is likely graphics driver
[17:28] <semitones_tea> OerHeks: I'm looking for more software optimization at this point -- I installed 12.04 as an update so there might be some things that built up
[17:29] <semitones_tea> OpenBSDT40: hmm, how do you figure?
[17:29] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: have you tried bootchart?
[17:29] <OerHeks> semitones_tea, 20 sec is acceptable.
[17:29] <semitones_tea> it's not from poweron to login, it's from login to desktop
[17:29] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: does bootchart go that far?
[17:29] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: unity uses compiz, compiz requires decent graphics drivers
[17:29] <Tohuw> SolarisBoy: I found the issue. I mistakenly believed ufw read from init.d, it does not. It reads from /etc/service. I'll just have to make an app profile for smbd. Thanks.
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> Tohuw: hmm ok
[17:30] <semitones_tea> OpenBSDT40: ah ok, I'll try 2d then
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> the rule was incorrect in any event
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: think so
[17:30] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: if 2d is just as slow then you're likely right, cruft from an upgrade
[17:31] <ghost__> i need to no why my wm ware is not workins
[17:32] <meraj> hi, i need help.
[17:32] <SolarisBoy> ghost__: do you mean vmware?
[17:32] <OpenBSDT40> meraj: thats awesome, we need a description of the problem
[17:32] <meraj> B/ttchs_ are u digi doll.
[17:33] <meraj> ???
[17:33] <ghost__> yes it not making the orapion systerm
[17:33] <SolarisBoy> ghost__: can you be more detailed? does it start and you have an issue installing a guest OS? or does it not start any longer?
[17:34] <meraj> B/tchs_ are u didgi doll??
[17:34] <meraj> B/tchs_ frm fb
[17:35] <Desbreko> Is anyone alive in here?
[17:35] <kristianpaul> Hi
[17:35] <Desbreko> I'm trying to revert my phone back to 2.3.3 with kdz updater
[17:35] <ghost__> solarisboy i do have isse it make it it wont install it go through it but when it finsh it nothing there
[17:35] <Desbreko> Anyone done this before??\
[17:35] <kristianpaul> My bran new ipod touch iOS 5.1 dont want work with fresh installed Ubuntu LTS 12.04..
[17:36] <escott> !ot | Desbreko
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> ghost__: make a pastie of the error
,i v downloaded video fro youtube ,bt nt able to ply  wit vlc plr? can u suggest?
[17:36] <kristianpaul> rhythmbox fails to initialice it..
[17:36] <DJones> Desbreko: I think there is #android channel that might be able to help with that
[17:36] <kristianpaul> :-(
[17:37] <ghost__> it dont say error
,i installed the coded command, ubuntu-restricted-extras
,still nt able to ply
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> meraj: what format is the video in?
[17:38] <meraj> solarisboy: .flv
[17:38] <katia> the woman in black
[17:38] <OpenBSDT40> meraj: vlc works for me
[17:38] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: could I post a bootchart here, and see if any of the stuff that's booting is cruft?
,can u tell me wat to do?
[17:39] <ghabit> Hello. I have installed minidlna server. How to add it to autoload on boot?
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> meraj: try starting vlc from the command line and see more details on the error
[17:39] <matelot> Question (12.04 Unity): I have installed WINE and an app (Foxit PDF Reader), Now how to launch the app ?
[17:39] <OpenBSDT40> meraj: i'm not sure sorry
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: sure.
[17:40] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: this is from this morning, I don't think it shows what happens after you get to the login screen. http://imgur.com/UEdw2
[17:40] <meraj> solarisboy: one thing is tat,after terms n codition its nt coming forward option during installation.
[17:41] <FatPenguin> hello everyone - I have a question regarding btrfs if anyone is available to answer it
[17:41] <meraj> solarisboy: wat to do?
[17:41] <mazal> meraj: What browser do you use ?
[17:42] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: might be pulseaudia
[17:42] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: might be pulseaudio
[17:42] <meraj> mazal: mozilla firefox
[17:42] <semitones_tea> hmm
[17:42] <mazal> Try this:
[17:42] <meraj> mazal: tell me
[17:42] <escott> FatPenguin, if you dont ask you wont know
[17:42] <mazal> Meraj and is it youtube ?
[17:43] <meraj> mazal: ya its youtube
[17:43] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: hmm, that unity greeter looks like more of a problem though
[17:43] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: you have a lot of disk activity
[17:43] <SolarisBoy> is that an old system?
[17:43] <FatPenguin> for btrfs, is there a command line tool to show disk usage (I have setup a RAID10 array, and would like to confirm that it is indeed mirroring properly)
[17:43] <mazal> meraj: Install firefox add-on "download helper" , that will download the file in mp4 format. Maybe that helps
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> meraj: did you start vlc from the commandline with the file name as an argument yet?
[17:44] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: It's been through quite a few updates, is that what you mean? I got it about two years ago
[17:44] <meraj> mazal: can u say me fr installation command
[17:44] <echo083> when i make a mv command from my computer to network folder my read write attributes are lost any idea ?
[17:44] <semitones_tea> OpenBSDT40: yeah, I see it using CPU. anything I can do about that
[17:44] <echo083> but attributes are kept when i use cp
[17:44] <meraj> solaris boy: ya
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: more so the disk seems to have a lot of activity during boot, and it is spikey so i was wondering
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> meraj: and what did vlc say?
[17:45] <escott> echo083, what kind of network system is this? how are you connected?
[17:45] <echo083> escott, it is a samba network share
[17:45] <escott> FatPenguin, its in the btrfs faq. btrfsctl du i believe
[17:45] <meraj> solarisboy:its nt able to ply youyube video,sm code err
[17:45] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: not sure sorry, i thought the unity greeter was just ran on the first run
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> ?
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> meraj: can you post the pastie to the error please?
[17:46] <FatPenguin> escott Thank you, I will look that up
[17:46] <echo083> escott, initial permission -rw-r--r-- and final permission -rw------- on the network share and only if i use mv ! strange isn't it ?
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> meraj: it may not be "vlc" it may be the file as well fyi
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> have you tried another flv file?
[17:46] <meraj> solaris boy_ wait doing
[17:46] <The_BROS> unzip fails to deal correctly with filename encodings. Whats the way to fix it?
[17:46] <sanduz2> ssh is asking for an 'askpass' program or 'tty' but the only askpass program i see listed in repos are all X/Gnome based... isnt there some sort of non-graphical ssh login helper?
[17:47] <meraj> solaris: fr every video sam err
[17:47] <mazal> meraj in firefox go to tools - ad-ons. Then "search download helper". It should be the very first one showing. On the right click on install. It's icon is 3 little circles (red , yellow, blue)
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> expect =)
[17:47] <escott> echo083, a move might create a new file with a new umask. although it seems a little strange. this is a mounted CIFS share?
[17:47] <mazal> meraj: If all video formats gives same error then downloading in mp4 format won't help
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> meraj: _every_ video?
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> meraj: including other video types?
[17:48] <echo083> escott, yes mounted i can read write like i want on it after the mc i can go in the folder and change manually with chmod like i want
[17:48] <echo083> escott, mv*
[17:48] <meraj> solaris: it s able to ply other videos, bt frm youtube .flv video nt able to work
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> ok
[17:49] <echo083> escott, where is defined the mv umask ?
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> meraj: can you try a flv from somewhere _else_?
[17:49] <meraj> solaris: so wat to do?
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> read my last comment.
[17:49] <meraj> ok
[17:49] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: hmm what does the disk access mean?
[17:49] <escott> echo083, my guess is that mv maybe doesn't understand the potential umask issues when moving across an fs boundary as well as cp does.
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: in your case, i observe the disk read/write spiking at boot time and then calming down
[17:50] <lars_> Hello people!
[17:50] <meraj> solaris: its nt able to ply .flv video
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> you have high i/o wait at boot
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> meraj: ok
[17:50] <zykotic10> echo083: you are aware you can't use chmod on FAT/NTFS right?
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> meraj: post the error please
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> on pastie.org or such
[17:51] <meraj> ok
[17:51] <echo083> zykotic10, oh no windows filesystem my samba share is on a debian server
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> meraj: install gnome-mplayer   may help
[17:51] <escott> echo083, perhaps you have cp -a aliased, and when mv reverts to cp; rm; it drops the archive flag
[17:51] <echo083> zykotic10, full ext4
[17:51] <evoc> good evening
[17:51] <echo083> escott, i just use "cp -rvf" to copy my files
[17:51] <semitones_tea> there's something causing a spike at 45s, but I can't see what it could be http://imgur.com/UEdw2
[17:52] <meraj> solaris: find the err:   VLC can't recognize the input's format:
[17:52] <meraj> The format of '/home/user/abc.flv' cannot be detected. Have a look at the log for details.
[17:52] <escott> echo083, you could strace the two commands and try to see what is going on
[17:52] <echo083> escott, ohhh nice idea !!
[17:52] <echo083> escott, i do it now
[17:53] <sirknight> zykotic10,  why is that?
[17:53] <meraj> <ActionParsni: tell me d installation cmd fr gnome-mplayer
[17:53] <era878> I can't install nvidia drivers somebody please help
[17:53] <zykotic10> sirknight: why is what?  fat/nfts not being about to use chmod?  because fat/ntfs isn't POSIX compilant
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> meraj: what does:  file /home/user/abc.flv    output?
[17:53] <viril> question: mount /dev/md0 /mnt .... after this ... ls -l /mnt ... no etc folder. what's going on?
[17:53] <sirknight> meraj,  what do you need help with?
[17:53] <semitones_tea> OpenBSDT40: is pulseaudio supposed to run at boot?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> era878: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:54] <sirknight> zykotic10,  posix?
[17:54] <era878> ActionParsnip: it says driver activated but not in use
[17:54] <FatPenguin> escott, everything appears to be working fine, thanks for the help!
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: do you have a lot of programs during startup? things in rc.local etc?
[17:54] <zykotic10> sirknight: basic transplation would be unix
[17:54] <meraj> solarisboy:  i posted  d err
[17:54] <OpenBSDT40> semitones_tea: in yours i see it run after lightdm
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> meraj: i saw it
[17:54] <sirknight> zykotic10,  ohhh ok
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> meraj: use file or maybe even ffmpeg -i if you have it installed to print the filetype.
[17:55] <meraj> find the err:   VLC can't recognize the input's format:  The format of '/home/user/abc.flv' cannot be detected. Have a look at the log for details
[17:55] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: let me check. dropbox is the only one i can think of
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> meraj: sounds like a bad file
[17:55] <SolarisBoy> meraj: do you have ffmpeg installed?
[17:55] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: i think so too
[17:55] <meraj> solaris : no
[17:55] <SolarisBoy> ok
[17:56] <meraj> solaris: tell me wat to do?
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> give me a second type?
[17:57] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: rc.local is empty, but according to "startup applications" I'm running dropbox, weather applet, redshift, and synapticks touchpad initiator.
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> i don't know what redshift is but the others shouldn't be _that_ bad..
[17:57] <meraj> solaris: wat??
[17:57] <semitones_tea> synaptiks touchpad configurator actually
[17:58] <SolarisBoy> meraj: hold on.
[17:58] <meraj> solaris:ok
[17:58] <echo083> escott, i got the guilty line : fgetxattr(3, "system.posix_acl_access", 0xbffddfc0, 132) = -1 EOPNOTSUPP (Operation not supported)
[17:58] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: redshift makes the screen less blue at night to help you not stay up so late. it's kind of like f.lux
[17:58] <koot> hello
[17:58] <SolarisBoy> oh
[17:58] <sirknight> meraj,  just reinstall vlc player
[17:58] <SolarisBoy> thats what i was thinking
[17:59] <SolarisBoy> or maybe do you have a non-standard version installed? like something from some ppa or something?
[17:59] <koot> i get error in python: TypeError: libmemcached does not support SASL, on ubuntu 12.04, how i can add SASL to libmemcache? :|
[17:59] <SolarisBoy> recompile it?
[17:59] <koot> only way is to ./configure --witch-sasl? :|
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> --with-sasl
[18:00] <hosein> h_kalhori64@yahoo.com
[18:00] <hosein> m,jk
[18:00] <meraj> sirknigt: reinstallation process ,is same or  different?
[18:00] <Trieste> Hi, I'm on kubuntu 12.04, and I get this really long error about flashplugin-installer not able to download, when I log in
[18:00] <koot> ehh....
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> meraj: how did you install vlc?
[18:00] <hosein> vrvcwd
[18:01] <tBag> Hi, How i can log in other room?
[18:01] <meraj> solaris:ucing cmd:   install vlc vlc-plugin-pulse
[18:01] <OpenBSDT40> tBag: /join #wherever
[18:02] <tBag> i mean how fast change room
[18:02] <SolarisBoy> ok.. i assume you mean apt-get install?
[18:02] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: maybe i'm slow because I'm using an old kernel? (it looks like 3.0 something)
[18:02] <meraj> solaris:  ya
[18:02] <OpenBSDT40> tBag: what do you mean?
[18:02] <SolarisBoy> interesting
[18:03] <OerHeks>  semitones_tea what makes you think 20 sec is slow?
[18:03] <SolarisBoy> meraj: try to re-install as suggested i guess
[18:03] <SolarisBoy> my vlc works absolutely fine =) .. one sec let me check the version
[18:03] <tBag> OpenBSDT40: its ok
[18:03] <semitones_tea> OerHeks: it's a long time to wait after you type in your password. In the past it was only like 4-5 seconds.
[18:03] <meraj> solaris: can u tell me reinstallation cmd
[18:03] <tBag> OpenBSDT40: its ok
[18:03] <SolarisBoy> VLC media player 2.0.1 Twoflower (revision 2.0.1-0-gf432547)
[18:03] <OpenBSDT40> tBag: its better than ok, its awesome!
[18:03] <irvken> what is a kernel?
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> meraj: 'sudo apt-get purge vlc' to remove it
[18:04] <zykotic10> !kernel | irvken
[18:04] <OpenBSDT40> irvken: core of the operating system
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> and to install it 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[18:04] <meraj> ok
[18:04] <tBag> OpenBSDT40, how i can write to one user??
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> maybe you can sudo apt-get update in the middle just in case there was some newer version
[18:05] <OpenBSDT40> tBag: pm them? /msg nick whatyouwanttosay
[18:05] <meraj> ok
[18:05] <tBag> Ok thanks :) cya
[18:05] <OpenBSDT40> tBag: more irc basics are available in #freenode
[18:05] <irvken> why are there lots of linux kernels?
[18:05] <tBag> ok
[18:05] <stan_man_can> anyone know of a good article on how to setup sendmail on 11.11?
[18:05] <SolarisBoy> irvken: they change versions alot "upgrades"
[18:06] <SolarisBoy> irvken: also there are different types of kernels - like those for virtualization etc
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: what do you want to set it up to do?
[18:07] <irvken> what does an upgrade involve, more drivers, better file system support etc?
[18:07] <stan_man_can> SolarisBoy: I just need it running so I can make the php mail() function work
[18:08] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: ok should be simple enough - do you have a MTA that will receive and send out your messages or are you just playing locally?
[18:08] <nannes> I'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access
[18:08] <OpenBSDT40> irvken: and bugfixes and other features
[18:08] <SolarisBoy> e.g. are you sending to gmail addresses or local addresses?
[18:09] <jacobrask> Anyone else having problems with the Ubuntu One app on Android? I have a Galaxy SII and it crashes all the time. Is it a new app?
[18:09] <irvken> ho w do I find out what the best kernel for my hardware is?
[18:09] <nannes> I'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access
[18:09] <nannes> I don't have ubuntuCD!  Is there a way to download those packages from the web, right now? I mean, why there aren't http versions of ubuntu repos?
[18:10] <Trieste> irvken: usually the newest
[18:10] <stan_man_can> SolarisBoy: I'll be sending to third party emails
[18:10] <OpenBSDT40> irvken: not usually an issue, more of an issue finding the right drivers
[18:10] <stan_man_can> so I guess I need to setup an MTA?
[18:10] <OpenBSDT40> irvken: usually graphics and wireless
[18:10] <LiquidDemocracy> Sorry, this is not really an Ubuntu question. I have the linksys wrtg54 switch. Last time I used it was a few years ago. I can not get to its web interface. What could I be doing wrong? Iam directly connected via cable and the IP adressing is set to automatic dhcp
[18:11] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: thats probably the easiest way. and set your mta to forward mail to a gmail account and such
[18:12] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: then you just point mail() to the localhost and sendmail will handle the rest
[18:12] <zykotic10> nannes: tried http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[18:12] <nannes> zykotic10: ye, but I don't see "pool" dir..... I need restricted repo
[18:13] <stan_man_can> SolarisBoy: I dont even have sendmail installed yet though. I literally know nothing.
[18:13] <stan_man_can> lol
[18:13] <Areckx> I am trying to install windows xp. My current partition is 140 GB and it is the only partition, ext4. What I want to do is RESIZE the partition WITHOUT doing a complete reinstall. I want to install Windows XP on a new partition that is taken from part of the ext4 partition, thus creating an NTFS partition. There is currently a linux swap partition on /dev/sda5 and an Uncategorized partition.
[18:13] <Veseoj> Hey guys, since I upgraded to 12.04 whenever I start typing somewhere after a while it inserts an * before whatever it is. This happens everywhere (terminal, browser, etc).
[18:13] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: is your ip address what you expect it to be?
[18:13] <meraj> solarisboy: this option is coming:Configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[18:13] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: for instance if DHCP goes out on the router (reboot) and you get an APIPA address 169.x.x.x you could be "directly connected" but still not on the proper network
[18:13] <meraj> wat to do?
[18:13] <SolarisBoy> meraj: no clue =)
[18:14] <SolarisBoy> meraj: accept defaults?
[18:14] <SolarisBoy> meraj: those are fonts - i dont see how those will help you =)
[18:14] <Areckx> What documentation would you recommend I read in order to do this?
[18:15] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: thats ok - its not that bad - sendmail is annoying - i like postfix - but its cool
[18:15] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: gparted to the rescue!
[18:15] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Yes I have this open right now
[18:15] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: http://appgirl.net/blog/configuring-sendmail-to-relay-through-gmail-smtp/
[18:15] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  What do I do?
[18:15] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: from a livecd?
[18:15] <stan_man_can> do sendmail and postfix do the same thing?
[18:15] <LiquidDemocracy> SolarisBoy, I don't get an IP address. My laptop keeps trying to connect to the router.
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: yes
[18:16] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  I can make one... Right now I just have the ISO of Winxp as well as a backup of my previous USB livecd
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: postfix has a way better management interface afaik
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: sendmail is ancient
[18:16] <Areckx> That I made from an Ubuntu machine
[18:16] <stan_man_can> Then I'll use postfix :)
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: keeps trying?
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: so give me one more second.. ill get a diff articly
[18:16] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: you can't resize a partition that is in use, hence the need for a livecd
[18:16] <LiquidDemocracy> SolarisBoy, yes. I do not get an IP address.
[18:16] <Areckx> I may have access to DVDRs but I am unsure. I would like to do this without anything but my computer if possible.
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: then you don't connect to web interface =)
[18:17] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  I see....
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: try to reboot it if it is seems "random"
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> there was a preview release out 30 days ago for sendmail
[18:17] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  So once I had the livecd verified running, what would I do in gparted?
[18:17] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: a usb would do the trick too
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip:  really?
[18:17] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  That may be an option
[18:17] <LiquidDemocracy> SolarisBoy, exactly I can not connect to the web interface. Already rebooted a few times.
[18:17] <meraj> solaris: bt this term n condition page is nt moving forward.
[18:18] <meraj> wat to do?
[18:18] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: i'd need to see your partition layout and what you want
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: yeah, postfix had a preview release out 9 days ago, both extremely active :)
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> sweet
[18:18] <Chris_0076> hey, is there any way to keep the windows from jumping back up to the top of the screen when I move them in 12.04 (gnome classic)
[18:18] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: screenshots are glorious!
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: although the stable is newer
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> aha
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> i run into sendmail way more often than postfix at work.. unfortunately
[18:19] <Chris_0076> for example, if I move a window half way down the screen and then click somewhere else, it will jump back where it was
[18:19] <SolarisBoy> stan_man_can: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/11/relaying-postfix-smtp-via-smtpgmailcom/ | for postfix
[18:19] <aaas> what is the command to find out which package provides a particular file....so i want the intput to be a particular file to reutrn the corresponding package
[18:19] <Areckx> http://i.imgur.com/ZuZRh.png
[18:19] <SolarisBoy> dpkg -S aaas
[18:20] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  http://i.imgur.com/ZuZRh.png
[18:20] <aaas> SolarisBoy thanks
[18:20] <SolarisBoy> welcome
[18:20] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  We both had the same idea
[18:20] <SolarisBoy> meraj: im not sure what terms/license vlc installs..
[18:20] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: wow, that will be easy
[18:20] <LiquidDemocracy> SolarisBoy, The linksys wrt54g has a DHCP server, doesn't it. I forget.
[18:20] <petri_> how you are doing wiht new ubuntu 12.04
[18:20] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: yes - and they are known to be horrid..
[18:21] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: resize sda1 and add a new partition
[18:21] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: reboots usually fix it, but if its old there may be no saving - you can try a factory reset..
[18:21] <viril> question: mount /dev/md0 /mnt .... after this ... ls -l /mnt ... no etc folder. what's going on?
[18:21] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Really? resize is grayed out
[18:21] <viril> missing boot, bin and etc folders. what do you think guys?
[18:21] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: you are on it, you need to use a livecd
[18:21] <LiquidDemocracy> SolarisBoy, I tried the reset button. No  improvement.
[18:21] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: thats not a factory reset
[18:22] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Oh ok, so that's all I have to do?
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: there is a sequence of pushing the button and releasing it
[18:22] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Once I get the livecd, I just resize it and presto?
[18:22] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: indeed, if all you want is another partition
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: did you do something similar to that?
[18:22] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, then how do I do it?
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> lol
[18:22] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Now once I resize it, can I format that usb stick?
[18:22] <LiquidDemocracy> SolarisBoy, no.
[18:22] <meraj> solaris: can u tell me wat is dis,it came during vlc installation,,,"Configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer "
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: look at the manual for your device
[18:22] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  I would need to boot the Winxp image from the same usb
[18:23] <LiquidDemocracy> SolarisBoy, would you happen to know what the sequence is?
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: if it's a wrt54g - i believe it's hold it for 30/30/30
[18:23] <semitones_tea> I ran a new bootchart -- it looks like apparmor is going crazy http://imgur.com/MZ5zU
[18:23] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: so you don't have an xp cd? you want to do it via usb?
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> so 30 seconds holding the reset - remove the power cable - still holding reset for 30 - insert power cable - 30 second still holding reset..
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> i think is what it is... LiquidDemocracy give me a second to see if i can find it online
[18:24] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  yes I have an ISO file
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> LiquidDemocracy: http://technicallyeasy.net/2008/01/how-to-reset-linksys-wrt54g-wireless/
[18:25] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Can I do it with an Ubuntu bootable usb installer?
[18:25] <viril> question: mount /dev/md0 /mnt .... after this ... ls -l /mnt ... no etc folder. what's going on? missing /bin, /boot and /etc. what do you think?
[18:25] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: not sure sorry
[18:27] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Oh it seems UNETbootin is available for Ubuntu
[18:27] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 from 11.10, but I get this error when trying to use the Update Manager; http://pastebin.com/NYW4EveR
[18:27] <BlueProtoman> Any tips?
[18:27] <meraj> solaris: is it compulsory to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer .??
[18:28] <meraj> kindly reply me.
[18:28] <Areckx> I have used this program to install Ubuntu, I think... I don't remember if the 12.04 native usb maker did the trick or if UNETbootin ended up working....
[18:28] <OpenBSDT40> !who | meraj
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: it also seems your network doesn't come up until about 50 seconds in
[18:29] <meraj> ubouttu: hey i mentnd name.
[18:29] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Thank you for the help. This seems like a good answer to my problem. I will let you know if it worked or not.
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> is that a dependancy of vlc meraj?
[18:29] <OpenBSDT40> meraj: no, you said solaris, that isn't his full nick so it won't highlight him
[18:30] <Apoel> need help computer will not boot at all
[18:30] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: awesome, have fun
[18:30] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: which process are you looking at for that?
[18:30] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  Trying to install WoW in Ubuntu...
[18:30] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  I think winxp is the only solution for now
[18:30] <meraj> solaris boy: it shows during uninstallation n saying killing of dpkg..
[18:31] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: wow works in wine apparently
[18:31] <OpenBSDT40> !appdb | Areckx
[18:31] <Martin2012> Hi, I would like to know if Asus Xonar DS sound card works fine in Ubuntu
[18:31] <drdozer> hi - having weird problems getting my ubuntu PC to boot
[18:31] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  The WoW installer keeps saying it doesn't have enough processing power, but my machine meets the requirements
[18:31] <drdozer> it hangs without writing anything to any logs
[18:31] <drdozer> ctrl+alt+delete reboots
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: the network manager and few other services that should start after network all start after that basic time
[18:31] <Maxwell712> Help meeee! My other computer somehow fucked up during upgrading and now won't boot properly. It just goes to that purple splash screen with the four little blinking dots and stays there indefinitely. How can I fix this upgrade whilst retaining all of my previous information?
[18:32] <OpenBSDT40> !language | Maxwell712
[18:32] <Maxwell712> Why are bots allowed here?
[18:32] <SolarisBoy> their helpful so you don't have to be redundant
[18:32] <SolarisBoy> *they are
[18:32] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?  11.10 -> 12.04 error?  http://pastebin.com/NYW4EveR
[18:32] <BlueEagle> Maxwell712: Because it's the offician channel bot? :D
[18:33] <Maxwell712> I could use more constructive advice.
[18:33] <BlueEagle> Maxwell712: Then I suggest you mind your language when asking the questions. :)
[18:33] <drdozer> we can boot my pc from a pen drive
[18:33] <drdozer> but not from the hd
[18:33] <Areckx> There is always SOME person behind every bot
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> evil scientists
[18:34] <OpenBSDT40> !text | Maxwell712
[18:34] <Maxwell712> I can boot from a pen drive, no problem though.
[18:34] <drdozer> it gets past grub but no further
[18:34] <Maxwell712> Thank you.
[18:34] <Areckx> How do you know I'm not a bot?
[18:34] <Maxwell712> Then just update and upgrade again?
[18:34] <OpenBSDT40> Maxwell712: maybe starting in text mode will let you see something useful
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> Areckx: i can smell your blood
[18:34] <BlueEagle> BlueProtoman: Does it say anything before "could not calculate the upgrade"?
[18:35] <BlueProtoman> BlueEagle: Nothing of significance, the previous steps go along just fine.
[18:35] <indystorm> how do I get the video not to blank out after 5 minutes on ubuntu server 10.04 lts 32 bit?
[18:35] <OpenBSDT40> indystorm: blank out? your screensaver kicking in?
[18:35] <Areckx> SolarisBoy::  Good point...
[18:36] <indystorm> yeah thats what I mean... it goes to a blank screen after 5 minutes.
[18:36] <BlueEagle> BlueProtoman: Well if you're 100% positive that the exact step of the setup process is of no consequense when reading the context of the error then you know more about the installer than I do. :)
[18:36] <OpenBSDT40> indystorm: turn off your screensaver
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> B-)
[18:36] <indystorm> How do I do that on server with no GUI... whats the command for that?
[18:37] <Apoel> ubottu: once the pc opens an error message comes up saying error file not found and grub rescue and it does not let me boot into windows or ubuntu which i have removed by fromating and will not let me also enter the recovery
[18:37] <LiquidDemocracy> I want to do the following but I can not get it to work. I have a linksys router wich has tow DHCP client PCs named "B" and "C". The linksys router is connected to PC A 's eth0 via LAN cable. PC A also has Internet connection via USB WLAN. I can not connect to the Internet from Client "B" or "C". What could I be doing wrong? PC A can access the Internet and routing is enabled.
[18:37] <BlueEagle> BlueProtoman: It reminds me of this support call that came in where a customer weren't able to print to a printer and when I asked if it was a black and white printer he repliced "No, it's more silvery colored." </digression>
[18:38] <Apoel> once the pc opens an error message comes up saying error file not found and grub rescue and it does not let me boot into windows or ubuntu which i have removed by fromating and will not let me also enter the recovery need help
[18:39] <waelsy123_> hllo
[18:39] <waelsy123_> hello
[18:39] <BlueEagle> Apoel: Did you install from an USB-drive?
[18:39] <BlueEagle> !hello | waelsy123_
[18:39] <Apoel> BlueEagle: yes i did
[18:40] <sae> LiquidDemocracy: I think you want to do a network sharing scenario, right?
[18:40] <OpenBSDT40> BlueEagle: that factoid was removed a while back
[18:41] <waelsy123_> I just need a help to verify my phonenumber for facebook account
[18:41] <BlueEagle> Apoel: Then it may be that the installation routine was confused as to where it should place the boot loader. To assist you with this it would be helpful if you boot from the USB drive and then start an IRC client from the live environment.
[18:41] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: hmm I wonder why the network starts that late... maybe that's what makes it take so long for me to get my desktop
[18:41] <BlueProtoman> BlueEagle: So what can I do, then?
[18:41] <BlueEagle> OpenBSDT40: Indeed it has.
[18:41] <jn_> Have anyone successfully installed db2 on latest ubuntu? http://pastebin.com/tMu61b5t
[18:41] <Areckx> !pastebin
[18:41] <_Tristan> Hello. Is it a good time to upgrade to 12.04?
[18:42] <semitones_tea> _Tristan: aye :)
[18:42] <BlueEagle> BlueProtoman: Well I do not even know which stage of the upgrade is causing the error so for me to help you at all a further description of the error scenario would be helpful.
[18:42] <_Tristan> lovely
[18:42] <Apoel> BlueEagle: dont have ubuntu installed anymore as i have formated the partitions but will try and loging throught the live usb
[18:42] <OpenBSDT40> _Tristan: i recommend fresh installs
[18:42] <BlueEagle> BlueProtoman: Perhaps more info can be found in a file in /var/log?
[18:42] <_Tristan> OpenBSDT40: Why, did we get a new filesystem again?
[18:42] <BlueEagle> Apoel: Ahh, so you have removed Ubuntu before restoring the windows boot loader?
[18:43] <BlueProtoman> BlueEagle: It's software sources, I think.
[18:43] <Apoel> BlueEagle: yes
[18:43] <OpenBSDT40> _Tristan: no, just more is likely to go wrong with an upgrade
[18:43] <_Tristan> ah
[18:43] <BlueEagle> OpenBSDT40: What's the factoid for helping people restore the windows boot loader? :)
[18:43] <OpenBSDT40> !grub2
[18:43] <OpenBSDT40> !brain | BlueEagle
[18:44] <Apoel> BlueEagle: the grub rescue comes in and allows me to write commands and staff but dont know what command to write
[18:44] <BlueEagle> OpenBSDT40: I could if I would, but you're much smarter and more helpful than I am. :D
[18:45] <BlueEagle> Apoel: Technically, it is #windows that is broken, not #Ubuntu. :D
[18:45] <tBag> .
[18:46] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: it looks like I have clamav-freshclam starting, but I don't even have clamav installed...
[18:46] <Apoel> BlueEagle: will try and there but thought i give it a shot here first thank you
[18:46] <kennethsime> Question: UDS is local to me this year. I was thinking of attending one day. Is it open to the public, or do I need to register?
[18:46] <OpenBSDT40> Apoel: ##windows can help with restoring the windows bootloader
[18:46] <DJones> Apoel: To fix your Windows MBR, this should help http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392 as long as you've got the Windows install discs
[18:46] <BlueEagle> Apoel: Google offers this advice: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32523/how-to-manually-repair-windows-7-boot-loader-problems/
[18:47] <Apoel> DJones: this is the problem dont habe them
[18:47] <SolarisBoy> semitones_tea: thats interesting - are you sure it's not installed? a virus update on startup seems on course with those type of writes/reads
[18:47] <Apoel> BlueEagle: thank you will check the link
[18:48] <_Tristan> alternatively, you may consider lighting your computer on fire and then cutting it into pieces with a chainsaw. That might fix the issue.
[18:48] <BlueEagle> Apoel: If you decide to try Ubuntu in the future please check WUBI. It will allow you to install Ubuntu like a windows application and uninstalling it will automatically restore the boot loader. (if I remmeber correctly)
[18:48] <OpenBSDT40> BlueEagle: a vm is better and safer
[18:48] <eutheria> yay i have eclipse using the global menu! so much screen real estate reclaimed!
[18:49] <LiquidDemocracy> How can I give eth0 the IP adress 192.168.2.2 ?
[18:49] <LiquidDemocracy> Permanently
[18:49] <Apoel> BlueEagle: thank you for the hint but i was thinking trying fedora. I have difficulty in adjusting to unity interface
[18:49] <OpenBSDT40> Apoel: unity isn't the only option
[18:50] <OpenBSDT40> Apoel: kde, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[18:50] <Apoel> OpenBSDT40: tried Lxde but everything got all messed up
[18:50] <semitones_tea> SolarisBoy: it's not coming up as installed in the ubuntu software center
[18:50] <BlueEagle> Apoel: Then might I recommend Xubuntu, which is Ubuntu with the XFCE4 front end? It's my flavour of choice.
[18:51] <OpenBSDT40> Apoel: xfce is my favourite
[18:51] <BlueEagle> OpenBSDT40: I knew I had a reason to like you from the start! :D
[18:52] <exiff> Greetings, does ubuntu-one support client-side encryption/transparent encryption?
[18:52] <Apoel> BlueEagle: will try it then before going to fedora
[18:53] <BlueEagle> exiff: https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/what-security-and-privacy-policies-does-ubuntu-one-have/
[18:55] <exiff> Thanks BlueEagle.
[18:55] <OpenBSDT40> !cookie | BlueEagle
[18:55] <tBag> IDENTIFY tBag 29051988
[18:55] <LjL> !identify | tBag
[18:56] <OpenBSDT40> tBag: you'll want to change your password, and do it outside a channel
[18:56] <tBag> !IDENTIFY tBag 29051988
[18:56] <LjL> ...
[18:56] <exiff> That's a pretty weak excuse for not storing stuff encrypted, since you could just do what firefox sync does... but oh well.
[18:58] <BlueEagle> tBag has got his birthday in the not-too-distant future too..
[18:58] <LiquidDemocracy> How can I use a PC to route between to local 192.168 networks?
[19:00] <BlueEagle> exiff: I think that the challenge with automatic encryption is that you loose platform independence. You could of course argue that _Ubuntu_ one should only have to cater to Ubuntu machines and as such you could easily add transparent encryption and not worry about other platforms breaking.
[19:01] <BlueEagle> exiff: ...on the other hand, when you need access to that file you know you have on your one account and you're at a friends house that only has windows you'll still be happy that you're able to retreive it. :)
[19:02] <exiff> How does platform independence affect it ? Wouldnt the client just use a key to decrypt the files?
[19:02] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: How are the two local networks connected?
[19:04] <ulkesh> Alrighty, I can no longer login to my Ubuntu desktop.  I removed my ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring (attempting to get rid of the "enter password" every time after logging in and getting my desktop)...now when I go to login, it goes right back to the login screen, i've tried lightdm and gdm...any ideas?
[19:04] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, PC A is connected to the Internet via USB WLAN Adaptor and also connected to a linksys router swith wrt54g
[19:04] <LiquidDemocracy> I want clients connected to the linksys to be able to access the internet via the USB Wlan adapter
[19:05] <iku-iku> hi, i want to watch a movie with ubuntus preinstalled movieplayer but when i toggle fullscreen it goes to the wrong screen... thanks for your help
[19:05] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, the USB Wlan is 192.168.1.0/24
[19:05] <cocolos> how can I stop x while in ssh?
[19:05] <cocolos> I tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:06] <yeats> cocolos: in newer releases, lightdm is the default, FYI
[19:06] <OpenBSDT40> cocolos: 11.10 onwards use lightdm by default
[19:06] <cocolos> yeats, OpenBSDT40: I am on 10.04
[19:06] <_zion> i got video lag on ubuntu unity
[19:06] <duryodhan> Hi .. my suspend doesn't work via closing the lid, or clicking on the power button and choosing suspend. Doing it manually ("echo shutdown > /sys/power/disk; echo mem > /sys/power/state") seems to work fine. Any ideas/suggestions on what I should look at ?
[19:06] <yeats> cocolos: then it would be gdm, yes
[19:06] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: You want to set up a network address translator.
[19:06] <duryodhan> Zenbook UX31
[19:07] <_zion> i got video lag on ubuntu unity is it anyway to fix it quick?
[19:07] <cocolos> yeats: Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[19:07] <cocolos> utility, e.g. service gdm stop
[19:07] <cocolos> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[19:07] <cocolos> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility, e.g. stop gdm
[19:07] <yeats> cocolos: 'sudo service gdm stop'
[19:07] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, how?
[19:08] <cocolos> yeats: I get this: sudo service gdm stop
[19:08] <cocolos> stop: Unknown instance:
[19:08] <yeats> cocolos: so is X still running then?
[19:08] <cocolos> yeats: yep
[19:09] <semitones_tea> _zion: you might want to use unity 2d, it's a lot faster
[19:09] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: Shorewall can do that quite neatly. The trick is to configure the WRT54g to use your computer as its internet gateway. It will then handle the routing and NAT-ing of the wireless clients. You on the other hand must NAT to the WRT.
[19:09] <cocolos> yeats: any idea?
[19:09] <_zion> i got video lag on ubuntu unity is it anyway to fix it quick?
[19:09] <semitones_tea> _zion: ^
[19:09] <yeats> cocolos: sorry, I don't
[19:09] <greywalk_> hi. is there any information on when adobe flash player is available in the repos again?
[19:10] <_zion> semitones_tea,  ?
[19:10] <semitones_tea> _zion: try installing and using unity 2d from the software center
[19:10] <BlueEagle> !flash
[19:10] <ulkesh> Alrighty, I can no longer login to my Ubuntu desktop.  I removed my ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring (attempting to get rid of the "enter password" every time after logging in and getting my desktop)...now when I go to login, it goes right back to the login screen, i've tried lightdm and gdm...any ideas?
[19:10] <xangua> !info flashplugin-installer | greywalk_
[19:11] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, but how should I configure the linksys router. Both local networks can not be 192.168.0/24 can they.
[19:11] <greywalk_> the installer is installed, the player was removed with the latest update, wasn;t?
[19:11] <_zion> semitones_tea,  its installed already
[19:11] <BlueEagle> ulkesh: Well atleast you now know why you rename system files instead of deleting them. :)
[19:12] <semitones_tea> _zion: try logging out, and choose unity 2d as the session before logging in again
[19:12] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: I suggest looking up the manual for the linksys router. Normally you would need a wired connection to the router and set it up using a web interface.
[19:12] <ulkesh> BlueEagle, thanks for the non-help, any real ideas to fix besides pointing out the obvious?
[19:12] <_zion> semitones_tea, thanks ill try
[19:13] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, Yes I am already connected. But what should I set for values?
[19:13] <semitones_tea> np :)
[19:13] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: If you connect a computer to it and set it to obtain an IP from it and then open a webbrowser and go to routerlogin.net you may be taken to the web interface.
[19:13] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: I think I remember some of the WRTs stealign that address.
[19:13] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle,  I am already there.
[19:14] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, see the USB WLAN network of PC A is 192.168.1.1
[19:14] <LiquidDemocracy> The eth0 network of PC A should be?
[19:14] <LucasCampos> Hey there. I made a stupid mistake, and now I cannot use install Linux anymore. Instead of using dd to sdb, I used to sda. That obviously broke my OS. Now I'm trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 over it, but everytime I try I get this error: "Could not install grub to /dev/sda. This is a fatal error"
[19:14] <semitones_tea> ulkesh: can you login on a virtual terminal
[19:15] <Areckx> I am having problems installing WoW on 10.04, should I upgrade my UIbuntu?
[19:15] <Areckx> Ubuntu^^
[19:15] <ulkesh> semitones_tea, yup, i'm trying to add another user to see if that route will help
[19:15] <LucasCampos> I have already tried to get a new partition table, but it was useless
[19:15] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: Well if the WLAN subnet is 192.168.1.0/24 the WRT may well be 192.168.0.0/24.
[19:16] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: mention in #winehq what version you are using and see if a more recent wine would be better
[19:16] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  I have, and they said 1.4 is the latest for 10.04
[19:16] <seekwill> Hello. The "Print Screen" key takes a snapshot of the whole desktop. Is there a way to make it default to the "Select area to grab" cursor instead?
[19:16] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, so I should make the linksys router IP 192.168.0.1?
[19:17] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: are you using compiz?
[19:17] <Areckx> What is that?
[19:17] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: compiz fusion, fancy desktop effects
[19:18] <zykotic10> OpenBSDT40: unity (3d) is also compiz
[19:18] <Areckx> oh, should I install it???
[19:18] <scyther> a easy issue, i unpacked a tar archive and it was ._* file for every * file, and now I want to remove all of thoose file, but how can i do it easy in the terminal. i want the command to go recursive in the subfolders
[19:18] <OpenBSDT40> zykotic10: i know, he is using 10.04
[19:18] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  I have compizconfig
[19:18] <zykotic10> OpenBSDT40: ahh, not applicable then.  sorry.
[19:18] <zion> semitones_tea, its works thanks a lot u saved me !!!!
[19:18] <qwerty123> Hey guys, will the normal ubuntu download work for netbooks?
[19:19] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: wine doesn't work well with compiz
[19:19] <semitones_tea> zion: no problem man! :D
[19:19] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: it is in the #winehq topic
[19:19] <Areckx> OpenBSDT40::  So I need to remove it? How can I do that in terminal?
[19:19] <semitones_tea> qwerty123: yes :D you can install it to usb
[19:19] <OpenBSDT40> Areckx: no, just use metacity instead
[19:20] <xangua> Areckx: if you use lucid run "metacity --replace" to temporaly disable compiz and try that game
[19:20] <qwerty123> semitones_tea, will a live cd also work?
[19:20] <semitones_tea> does your netbook have a cd drive?
[19:21] <qwerty123> ah, good point xD
[19:21] <qwerty123> quite embarassing
[19:22] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: Just to make sure I understand this correctly; is this your setup? http://pastebin.com/b5Q9FGUu
[19:23] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, absolutely correct
[19:23] <sae> seekwill: you might want to use Shutter instead
[19:24] <sae> seekwill: look for it in the software center
[19:24] <seekwill> sae: I could map that to the PrintScreen button?
[19:24] <seekwill> (look it up now)
[19:24] <semitones_tea> How long does it typically take to login to ubuntu?
[19:24] <seekwill> semitones_tea: three seconds on my SSD drive :)
[19:25] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: Ok, the interface on the ubuntu box is the one you want to have set as 192.168.0.1, the WRT54g interface should instead be something like 192.168.0.10. This will leave you with eth0 (or what ever) = USB WLAN = 192.168.1.1 and eth1 = interface to WRT = 192.168.0.1
[19:25] <semitones_tea> nice :D
[19:25] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, When I click on advanced routing on the wrtg and choose operating mode "Gateway" and enter the values I get invalid lan IP or gateway
[19:25] <semitones_tea> seekwill: mine takes more like 15 seconds -- I'm trying to figure out if there's some software misbehaving
[19:25] <sae> seekwill: you can have shutter in the launcher, when right clicking on it will give you some options for capturing
[19:26] <seekwill> sae: Ah, very nice. Similar to Droplr on my Mac too, it seems (automagic upload)
[19:26] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: On the WRT you want to specify 192.168.0.1 as the gateway as well as set the IP of the interface to 192.168.0.10.
[19:26] <LucasCampos> So, did this happen to anyone else?
[19:26] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, OK, hold on
[19:27] <seekwill> sae: Installing it now. Thanks
[19:27] <sae> seekwill: I haven't been able to remove the standard print screen app, but checking the shutter settings to you can make it react to print screen
[19:27] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: http://www.shorewall.net/3.0/two-interface.htm <= please read this for info on setting up shorewall. Your Ubuntu box would then be the firewall/router.
[19:28] <sae> seekwill: yw
[19:29] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: To begin with this will seem complicated, but I've been through a couple of firewall/routing setups and Shorewall has been the best one I've found yet, once you get your head around the logic of it.
[19:30] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, I keep getting invalid LAN IP or Subnet Mask.
[19:30] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: Are you setting the gateway before changing the interface of the network card on the router?
[19:30] <LiquidDemocracy> Destination LAN IP: 192.168.0.1, Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0, default gateway: 192.168.0.1
[19:31] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, yes, I have not set anything on the router
[19:31] <LiquidDemocracy> yet
[19:31] <BlueEagle> the WRT LAN IP needs to be 192.168.0.10, mask 255.255.255.0 and the gateway 192.168.0.1
[19:32] <BlueEagle> When you save these settings you will loose contact with the web interface and need to connect to it using the ip 192.168.0.10. Also you should set the IP of the interface connected to the WRT to 192.168.0.1
[19:32] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, OK, I changed the Destination LAN IP to 192.168.0.10. Still I get invalid LAN IP or Subnet Mask.
[19:33] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, so etho of PCA connects to the linksys. How do I set the IP adress to 192.168.0.1? I tried to it via the GUI but ifconfig didn't return anything afterwards
[19:34] <drvanon_> hey guys when i import photos from my camera via shotwell where will it be imported to?
[19:34] <_ferret_> any way to run windows programs in ubuntu or do i have to have both installed
[19:34] <BlueEagle> Try /etc/network/interfaces
[19:34] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: google it for info on setting a static IP on a network car.d
[19:36] <carlo> hi
[19:36] <carlo> ciao
[19:36] <carlo> ciao
[19:36] <carlo> ciao
[19:36] <FloodBot1> carlo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <laumonier> firefox use a lot of my cpu more than before is there a problem with firefox on ubuntu 12.4 or not?
[19:37] <carlo> hacking password hotmail?
[19:37] <carlo> hacking password hotmail?
[19:37] <carlo> hacking password hotmail?
[19:37] <carlo> hacking password hotmail?
[19:37] <FloodBot1> carlo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, found it:) http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[19:37] <melchi> hotmail? uncool. delete the account
[19:38] <LiquidDemocracy> BlueEagle, I am just editing the file. Gateway should be 192.168.1.1, correct?
[19:38] <TrD> lol
[19:39] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: On the WRT the gateway should be 192.168.0.1. The eth0 cannot have a gateway that is outside its subnet so leave out the gateway.
[19:39] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: This done with other routing mojo. :)
[19:40] <LiquidDemocracy> You mean ti should not put a gate way in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:42] <zykotic10> !wine | _ferret_
[19:44] <camilleqco> i am having a problem with skype screensharing now that ubuntu has changed to gnome 3
[19:44] <BlueEagle> LiquidDemocracy: That is correct. This is because the network interface is in the same box as the network interface that actually does the routing. In other words the gateway for 192.168.0.1 is itself. Take a look at the masquerading section in http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm
[19:45] <camilleqco> i get the red border around the screen
[19:45] <camilleqco> and i can't scroll to any other window
[19:45] <_ferret_> ok thanks
[19:45] <camilleqco> the only thing i can do is end the call
[19:45] <camilleqco> the other person can see my screen as-is
[19:45] <ulkesh> semitones_tea, turns out it wasn't the login.keyring (regardless of anyone's crass remarks about not backing it up :) )...it was a bad .profile that was doing something odd (it has an issue doing an export PATH twice)
[19:45] <camilleqco> but i can't manipulate to other programs
[19:46] <camilleqco> oops move to other programs or windows
[19:46] <_ferret_> would it be easy to install ubuntu parallel to windows on this machine? I'd like to try
[19:46] <ulkesh> semitones_tea, so thanks for attempting to help...i'm all good now and can login just fine
[19:47] <dibs> Hi guys, upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04, now apache is refusing to folow my symlinks, get 403's any ideas?
[19:47] <dwq> Will Ubuntu 12.04 work on a Powerbook G4? I think I remember reading that Ubuntu didn't support those anymore.
[19:48] <mcc> I am trying to build an executable with the hopes other linux users, particularly ubuntu users, will be able to run it. My program uses OpenAL. I use '-Wl,-rpath,$$ORIGIN/Internal' to make it load a built copy of openal.so.1 from a local folder
[19:48] <escott> dibs, check your apache config file
[19:48] <mcc> However I woud * prefer *, if there is an OpenAL on the system, for it to use the system OpenAL instead of the OpenAL I built.
[19:48] <zykotic10> dwq: if that's a powerpc chip, i don't think it's officially supported by ubuntu anymore.  debian probably?
[19:48] <mcc> Is there a way to make it use system openal preferentially and then fall back on my copy if it has to?
[19:49] <dwq> zykotic10: yeah debian works. thanks.
[19:51] <Jeremy3D> anyone having internet issues thru ethernet port since 12.04 upgrade?
[19:51] <_ferret_> okay im gonna get ubuntu. guess I got a lot of reading and learning ahead of me, never used linux before
[19:52] <zykotic10> Jeremy3D: perhaps more details would help.  what card is it for one (lspci | grep -i ethernet) might tell you.
[19:52] <nickgaw> Hi, when I do the do-release-upgrade -d it does not upgrade me to the next release that is currently being worked on it just says no new release is there a reason why?
[19:52] <eutheria> is it really not possible to always show the applications global menu?
[19:53] <zykotic10> nickgaw: i doubt 11.10 has anything yet?  is #ubuntu+1 reponed?
[19:53] <zykotic10> 12.10 ;)
[19:53] <IntuitiveNipple> nickgaw: Are you on 10.04 currently?
[19:54] <nickgaw> yes
[19:54] <Jeremy3D> zykotic10, Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
[19:54] <Fyodorovna> Hello channel anybody have that webUd8 link for customizing the classic/fallback top panel I can not find it on the web.
[19:54] <IntuitiveNipple> nickgaw: The release upgrade doesn't show until 112.04.1 is out - to ensure any late bugs /upgrade issues are squashed
[19:55] <zykotic10> Jeremy3D: you probably shouldn't include my nic (i doubt i can help with your issue) - but what is the issue?  is it working at all?  dropping connections?
[19:55] <Fyodorovna> Or a link in the theme of this
[19:55] <Jeremy3D> zykotic10, another quirk I have found is the left applications menu doesn't pull up right away anymore. I have to roll my mouse up and down the left side of the screen to get it to show
[19:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Jeremy3D: I find 'slamming' the mouse pointer hard into the left side seems to help that
[19:56] <_ferret_> why does it say recommended on 32bit ubuntu in download page but not on 64bit? i have 64bit processor
[19:56] <Jeremy3D> It drops connectoin. When I pull up a page or load a video it stops.  Sometimes the page will load all text and no images, etc
[19:57] <Jeremy3D> IntuitiveNipple, so you have the same problem too with no good solution (I mean besides slamming the mouse of course, lol)
[19:57] <LiquidDemocracy> HOw can I deleted iptable rules?
[19:57] <LiquidDemocracy> delete
[19:57] <jrib> !iptables | LiquidDemocracy
[19:57] <Fyodorovna> Jeremy3D, you can change the edges pressure point in compizconfig settings manager.
[19:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Jeremy3D: It seems to have got better with recent updates from the -proposed repository
[19:57] <LinuxMonkey> _ferret_: Thats because the 32bit will work on both, go ahead and grab the 64 bit one if you got a 64 bit processor.
[19:58] <IntuitiveNipple> _ferret_: 64bit is recommended for 2GB or more RAM
[19:58] <zykotic10> _ferret_: do you have a specific reason to use 64bit?  and/or do you have more then 4GB+ memory
[19:58] <Jeremy3D> IntuitiveNipple, i've updated every day but stills seems to lag. I'll give Fyodorovna idea a try
[19:58] <_ferret_> i have 4 gb memory
[19:59] <_ferret_> well i don't know i figured since i have a 64bit processor i should get the 64bit ubuntu version
[19:59] <Jeremy3D> anyone have any idea about the internet dropping connection with an ethernet port? all seems fine on windows 7 and was working great with 11.10
[19:59] <Fyodorovna> Jeremy3D, Yeah the control is in the unity plugin 3rd tab
[19:59] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: 2GB would be better to use 32bit for sure (the overhead of 64bit means basically "more" memory is used, and you don't get an advatage until you start addressing MORE memory then 32bit can)
[20:00] <accel24> Hey guys, I just got done installing 12.04, and now my dual monitors aren't recognized.  And when I click displays, it is detecting me as a laptop, which I'm not...
[20:00] <_ferret_> I see, so 64bit hogs more resources
[20:00] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: there are specific use cases (encoding, etc) where 64bit MIGHT be better even with 2GB
[20:00] <LinuxMonkey> _ferret_: no it allows you to alocate more resources :)
[20:00] <mcc> isn't x86-64 inherently faster than x86-32
[20:01] <mcc> because the isa has more registers available to it, etc?
[20:01] <zykotic10> _ferret_: you can't think of it like "hogging" - it better really
[20:01] <IntuitiveNipple> zykotic10: There was a discussion on ubuntu-devel list recently; the extra registers of 64bit make it faster but the trade-off in using more RAM for instructions makes 2GB the point at which 64-bit is generally an advantage
[20:01] <accel24> it asked me to authorize other nvidia drivers, and I had hoped that would help, but it's still the same...
[20:01] <iceroot> mcc: not more but larger registers
[20:01] <blocky> what do you call the thing in unity that opens when you press super key
[20:01] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: ummm, that's interesting.  good to know - thanks for the correction.  (i still run 64 on my eee with 1gb ;)
[20:02] <IntuitiveNipple> zykotic10: Me too!
[20:02] <Jeremy3D> Fyodorovna, which one do i want? none seem to be doing much. Launcher Reveal Edge Responsiveness, Launcher Reveal Pressure, Launcher Edge Stop Overcome Pressure, Pressure Decay Rate, Edge Stop Velocity
[20:02] <mcc> iceroot: from wikipedia... "In addition to increasing the size of the general-purpose registers, the number of named general-purpose registers is increased from eight... in x86 to 16"
[20:02] <_ferret_> I guess I'll try the windows installer for Ubuntu
[20:02] <LiquidDemocracy> Is there a simple iptables command that lets me route all incoming traffic on eth0 to wlan0 (which has internet access?
[20:02] <iceroot> mcc: hm ok
[20:02] <mcc> iceroot: afaik x86-64 changed a bunch of stuff besides just the word size, they (amd i think?) used it as an excuse to upgrade the instruction set also a bit
[20:03] <nickgaw> Hi, Why does do-release-upgrade on 12.04 not upgrade to the next development release?  I did the -d switch and still it says no upgrades
[20:03] <IntuitiveNipple> zykotic10: The context of the discussion was whether it is time yet to recommend the 64-bit install by default, based on the arch of the majority of PCs Ubuntu is being deployed on
[20:03] <zykotic10> 64bit is the future, due to the epoch/unix time limitaion in 32bit - what year is that?
[20:03] <LiquidDemocracy> Is there a simple iptables command that lets me route all incoming traffic on eth0 to wlan0 (which has internet access? I tried sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.10 -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE but I do not get internet access on the clients
[20:03] <iceroot> nickgaw: there are not 12.10 repos at the moment
[20:03] <jrib> nickgaw: are the repositories open already? In any case #ubuntu+1 for that
[20:03] <IntuitiveNipple> LiquidDemocracy: Route? maybe you would be better Bridging those two interfaces?
[20:03] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: that was way 32bit is still recommended
[20:03] <accel24> anyone have a minute to help me sort out why 12.04 isn't seeing my monitors properly?
[20:04] <_ferret_> thanks, very excited to move over to linux. i made the decision because I don't play games as much anymore.
[20:04] <IntuitiveNipple> zykotic10: Indeed, but there is talk of adding a rider into the 32-bit installer so if it detects a 64-bit capable CPU it'll tell the user about the 64-bit version
[20:04] <LiquidDemocracy> IntuitiveNipple, would you be able to tell me how?
[20:05] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: that would be a cool feature (i like debians 32or64bit netinstaller, would be nice to see ubuntu do the same)
[20:05] <LinuxMonkey> zykotic10: not only that but many users dont know that their pc is 32 or 64 bit thus recommending 32 bit since it works for both.
[20:05] <IntuitiveNipple> LiquidDemocracy: I run it on my gateway server: I found an article about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[20:05] <Fyodorovna> Jeremy3D, I am in gnome 3 right now, but I think I set the Reveal Edge Responsiveness at 10 so you kind of have to mess around a bit
[20:05] <zykotic10> LinuxMonkey: agreed.  it makes perfect sense to recommed 32bit IMO
[20:06] <accel24> anyone have a minute to help me sort out why 12.04 isn't seeing my monitors properly?
[20:06] <bit0> hello
[20:06] <zykotic10> accel24: can i just ask what graphics card you have?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[20:07] <nickgaw> I am also totally blind and had to leave and come back on my debian system as orca reads nothing properly in the gnome terminal somethings it reads properly but others it does not it is like a hit and miss.  there is no option in gnome-orca to enable it after login for the currently logd in user where in ubuntu is there an option to tell what programs run after login in unity?
[20:07] <IntuitiveNipple> LiquidDemocracy: I don't know why you'd need to route *all* incoming traffic though... the standard routing table set-up based on the system's interfaces will already route packets correctly to the appropriate subnets
[20:07] <LinuxMonkey> zykotic10: too bad they dont have a dual version on 1 iso(yeah might be bigger) but would install 64bit by default if its detected but allow users to install 32 bit if they choose
[20:07] <blocky> how can I enable desktop sharing from the command line?
[20:07] <_ferret_> why can I choose different sizes for the installation?
[20:07] <accel24> zykotic10: nvidia .... 8400gs
[20:07] <zykotic10> LinuxMonkey: that's what debian's is, both on one iso
[20:08] <IntuitiveNipple> LinuxMonkey: There is talk of a dual-arch DVD iso installer
[20:08] <Trel> Got a question about the setuid permission on a folder. I have u+s and g+s, and the folder is owned by root:editor. When a file is made, it's getting the ownership digicam:editor. Why is this?
[20:08] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: netinstaller would be simplest, most useful IMO ;)
[20:08] <LiquidDemocracy> IntuitiveNipple, I use an ubuntu PC to connect a linksys router and an wlan connection to the internet
[20:08] <jrib> Trel: because digicam is the user who made presumably
[20:08] <iceroot> LinuxMonkey: then you have must always the size of two isos and i your hardware supports 64bit there is not a single reason to use 32bit
[20:08] <jrib> Trel: made it*
[20:08] <LiquidDemocracy> IntuitiveNipple, could I use these instructions? http://blog.allanglesit.com/2011/02/create-a-bridged-interface-in-ubuntu/
[20:09] <IntuitiveNipple> LiquidDemocracy: OK, so on each network device you'd set their "default route" to be the Ubuntu PC's IP address
[20:09] <Trel> jrib: yes, but I have u+s set on the directory
[20:09] <accel24> zykotic10: there are two driver versions that the 'additional drivers' section tells me about, and I have the same results with either
[20:09] <jrib> Trel: that doesn't do anything
[20:09] <IntuitiveNipple> LiquidDemocracy: Is the WLAN hosted on the Ubuntu PC, or a separate device?
[20:09] <zykotic10> iceroot: another advatage to using netinstaller (for dual arch install), size wouldn't be an issue.
[20:09] <blocky> anyone know what vnc daemon is used by default?
[20:09] <Trel> Why is that?
[20:10] <jrib> Trel: by design
[20:10] <iceroot> zykotic10: correct
[20:10] <Trel> jrib: is it because the owner is root, or would it do that no matter the owner?
[20:10] <jrib> Trel: if you say what you want to accomplish, then maybe there isnother way
[20:10] <jrib> Trel: u+s is ignored on directories (in linux)
[20:10] <IntuitiveNipple> zykotic10: We can't assume the installer has network access all the time, which is why a DVD is the best option. netinstaller (minimal ISO) is available too
[20:11] <nickgaw> I can't find any directions for rebuilding the ubuntu iso image either on any ubuntu page and was trying to build a customized version anyone know what package I should look at or web site?
[20:11] <LinuxMonkey> blocky: i believe the default VNC server is vino but unsure, can someone else confirm this?
[20:11] <blocky> LinuxMonkey, I think you
[20:11] <blocky> re correct
[20:12] <blocky> I'm now trying to locate the configuration file and service
[20:12] <blocky> I have SSH access to a machine but I need remote desktop access
[20:12] <Trel> jrib: I want all files created in a directory to be owned by the same owner as the directory itself, regardless of what user creates them
[20:12] <jrib> Trel: use Access Control Lists
[20:13] <jrib> Trel: man setfacl, man getfacl, man mount (you need to add the acl option to the partition you want to use ACLs on)
[20:13] <Trel> ok, that's a bit above my pay grade
[20:13] <_ferret_> people, I can't understand why in the windows installer for Ubuntu, I get to choose so many sizes in 'Installation Size', what's that about
[20:13] <jrib> Trel: ok?
[20:13] <zamba> how can i automatically download the kernel headers for the current running kernel?
[20:13] <Trel> is there any way to at least have a default permissions for files created in that directory?
[20:14] <jrib> Trel: yeah, ACLs
[20:14] <Trel> or does that require the same
[20:14] <zamba> .. whenever a new kernel is downloaded, that is
[20:14] <_ferret_> installation size is pre-selected at 12 gb, the OS takes 12 gb?!
[20:14] <Trel> damn, that won't be posible then. I'm not able to do things to the partition.
[20:14] <cbhl> I'm trying to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 on a VPS from prgmr.com. I've noticed that the system boots fine on 3.2.0-23.36, but when I boot 3.2.0-24.37 it mounts the root partition as read-only.
[20:14] <guntbert> zamba: if I remember correctly dkms will pull them in
[20:15] <zamba> guntbert: well, dkms didn't
[20:15] <jrib> Trel: surely you could ask the admin?
[20:15] <accel24> I have just installed 12.04 on my desktop, I had both monitors working during the install, but once I rebooted I have only one.  The Display section recognizes my display incorrectly as 'Laptop' and does not see the second monitor.  I have an nvidia 8400gs card...
[20:15] <LinuxMonkey> _ferret_:  no it doesn't, it gets you to select a size as it will resize your windows partition and create a new partition for ubuntu of the size you choosen
[20:15] <guntbert> zamba: then again: why must it be automatically?
[20:16] <KM0201> accel24: did you enable the nvidia driver in the additional driver manager
[20:16] <accel24> KM0201: yes, there are two options in there, and I've tried both
[20:16] <Mendicant> probably a common question, does the windows installer for 12.04 do 32bit or 64bit
[20:16] <LiquidDemocracy> I am confused. Could anybody please tell me how to bridge eth0 and wlan0 using this tutorial? How do I have to modify it? http://blog.allanglesit.com/2011/02/create-a-bridged-interface-in-ubuntu/
[20:16] <zamba> guntbert: because i'm running asterisk and dahdi and that needs to rebuild a kernel module
[20:16] <KM0201> accel24: after you enable the driver, (use whichever one it "recommends") you have to enable the extra display in Nvidia-Settings
[20:17] <guntbert> zamba: but that is exactly what dkms is for (I thought...)
[20:17] <zykotic10> Mendicant: i'd highly recommed you consider "dual booting" over using Wubi.  but YMMV.
[20:17] <azimut> i am on a Ubuntu system and want to download the streaming media of this page: http://mediathek-video.br.de/B7Mediathek.html?bc=_163753644&bccode=bfs
[20:17] <azimut> how do I do this?
[20:17] <Trel> jrib: not somethign he'll do. Let me ask this then. If a directory denies write permisssions, but a file inside allows it, will I be allowed to delete it or no?
[20:17] <tBag-Tobiasz> What is a best bluetooth manager on Ubuntu 10.04?
[20:17] <Mendicant> thnx, so just mount the compressed file to the disc drive to get it working?
[20:18] <_ferret_> LinuxMonkey ok i got it
[20:18] <jrib> Trel: try and see :)  I don't think so
[20:18] <KM0201> azimut: it's flash, so you'd have to try to find some sort of flash video downloader (i've never saw one, even for windows, except for ones that work with youtube)
[20:18] <balki2> hi, i have a problem i can't  remove  a broken software...  somebody a idea ?
[20:18] <Trel> If not, then I'm good with how it's working now.
[20:18] <zykotic10> Mendicant: sorry, i didn't think you'd installed already.
[20:18] <guntbert> Trel: creating and deleting files requires write permissions on the directory
[20:18] <_ferret_> just one more question: will the windows installer allow me to install the 64 bit version?
[20:19] <Trel> what about modifying if the directory denies write permissions?
[20:19] <jrib> Trel: user could always just zero out the file though
[20:19] <Mendicant> zykotic: I haven't, I'm just trying to figure everything out before i do something wrong and screw up my computer
[20:19] <zykotic10> !tab > Mendicant
[20:20] <jrib> Trel: if you explain what your end-goal is then maybe we can suggest an alternative to ACLs
[20:20] <Trian3> Yesterday my system was running fine, today I'm getting really strange intermittent freezes and video anomalies (screen flashing, etc).  What kind of diagnostic tool(s) would you recommend to troubleshoot this?
[20:20] <zykotic10> Mendicant: so how are you planning to install?  cd/usb?  if you boot the media it will allow you to setup a dual-boot quite easily.
[20:20] <Trel> jrib: I'm trying to get a work around to windows being a pain in the ass caching network permissions
[20:20] <_ferret_> seems to be getting the 64 bit automatically through the windows installer
[20:20] <Trel> *logins
[20:20] <Trel> not permission
[20:21] <azimut> KM0201: for normal flash videos (like on youtube) there is the firefox extension VideoDownloadHelper. But it doesn't work in this case because of the streaming i guess
[20:21] <LinuxMonkey> _ferret_: from what i believe it should detect 64 bit and install it automatically unless you force 32 bit
[20:21] <Mendicant> my problem is i don't have any cds or usb's large enough to hold the files
[20:21] <accel24> KM0201: gotcha ... rebootin... I think that did it .... maybe there needs to be some notes on the addl driver screen about this...
[20:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: Did those ideas yesterday not solve it?
[20:21] <KM0201> azimut: that was my point.
[20:21] <tBag-Tobiasz> Anyone know what is the best blutooth manager?? bluemoon is not supported with BlueSoeil bluetooth.
[20:21] <azimut> KM0201: ok I see
[20:21] <KM0201> accel24: or maybe you should have read the wiki?... ;)
[20:21] <Trel> IntuitiveNipple: sadly no, it still caches the login between the shares
[20:21] <Trian3> KM0201: for streaming videos, use StreamTransport.
[20:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Trel: Grrrr!
[20:21] <KM0201> Trian3: i don't need it.
[20:21] <Trel> I went with FTP for the file modification
[20:21] <accel24> KM0201: I'm thinking more like my mother right now, than me :-p
[20:21] <accel24> anyways, brb
[20:22] <Trel> I just need to make sure ultimately the files can't be modified at all through windows
[20:22] <balki2> how can  remove  1 not fully installed or removed package ?
[20:22] <zykotic10> balki2: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:22] <balki2> zykotic10: ok
[20:23] <Trian3> azimut: got in mid thread, but was it you that needed a streaming vid download util?  If so, try StreamTransport.  It's worked very well for me.
[20:24] <azimut> Trian3: Yes, I want to download a streaming video. i will look for streamtransport, thanks
[20:24] <Trian3> azimut: np
[20:24] <eutheria> wow the movie has slowed right down to a crawl
[20:24]  * eutheria snores
[20:24] <Trian3> Yesterday my system was running fine, today I'm getting really strange intermittent freezes and video anomalies (screen flashing, etc).  What kind of diagnostic tool(s) would you recommend to troubleshoot this?
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[20:25] <LinuxMonkey> lmao I usually help with questions but now i got one, anyone know of any alternatives to "myihome" its a media server generally used to serve up media files to a NMT?
[20:26] <balki2> the error message is "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[20:26] <azimut> Trian3: StreamTransport is windows only, so I should run it with wine, right?
[20:27] <KM0201> azimut: how do you plan to run a windows browser plugin, on a linux browser?
[20:28] <Trian3> azimut:  Ah, I neglected to check that.  I have it on my Windows box.  I'd presume so, or perhaps there's a linux alternative?
[20:30] <Trian3> azimut:  A search turned up tubemaster (http://www.tubemaster.net) as a recommended alternative
[20:30] <azimut> KM0201: Trian3: so if it is not a windows standalone program, that's bad. a linux alternative seems to be rtmpdump, however I didn't get it to work
[20:30] <cocolos> how do I run nvidia server settings as root?
[20:31] <azimut> Trian3: ok thanks will look for tuebmaster
[20:31] <Jordan_U> cocolos: Is there a reason you're not using the Additional Drivers utility?
[20:31] <cocolos> Jordan_U: Well that usually errors out.
[20:32] <cocolos> Jordan_U: FYI my cuda card is now not being detected after I update the sdk and drivers for 4.2
[20:32] <Jordan_U> cocolos: Whith what error message?
[20:32] <accel24> KM0201: ... I got the other monitor running.... but it's like.... 1999 Solaris style x type display/cursor..... really weird...
[20:32] <KM0201> accel24: it's quite configurable in nvidia-settings, just mess with the settings a bit.
[20:33] <zykotic10> accel24: do you have it set to separate x sessions, or twinview?
[20:33] <_ferret_> with Ubuntu I'm going to be king of the world
[20:33] <Trian3> Can anyone recommend a good comprehensive diagnostic utility?
[20:33] <Trian3> My system is bugging out pretty hard
[20:33] <accel24> zykotic10: separate... when I did twinview, it showed the same desktop inj each, which I didn't want...
[20:33] <erisdiscordia> In review of Pangolin I've read that login screens should now reflect the user's desktop. I'm not getting that behavior by default and I can't find a setting for it. I see a setting for it in Unity Tweak but the whole section it's on is greyed out. Where's my mistake?
[20:33] <IntuitiveNipple> accel24: Sounds like you started another X server using "startx" or similar?
[20:33] <cocolos> Jordan_U: I assume you are talking about the preference->monitors option under 10.04 I get
[20:34] <zykotic10> accel24: what do you want?  you need to start another WM/DE on that separate X windows (sorry i don't know how)
[20:34] <cocolos> Jordan_U: "it appears that your graphic drivers does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool"
[20:34] <zykotic10> accel24: twinview should act as one large desktop, across both monitors
[20:34] <Seryth> My webcam isn't working. It shows up in cheese, but with a super slow refresh rate, and it's super duper dark. I want to be able to use it for skype...any ideas? Ubuntu 11.10 and openbox
[20:34] <exiff> I hope you can disable that feature... coz what if you have an... "unusual" wallpaper... might be embarrassing especially if you use a family computer.
[20:35] <erisdiscordia> exiff, it's so disablable that I can't even enable it
[20:35] <Jordan_U> cocolos: That is not what I am refferring to. System > Administration > Additional Drivers (or possibly "Hardware Drivers" or similar).
[20:35] <Paulo39> hi guys. i have a really annoying problem with firefox rendering. as you can see in this image http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1890161/Temp/firefoxfont.png the fonts are not properly rendered. can you help me solving this?
[20:36] <wingnut2626> hi guys does anyone know where i can get a windows xp iso?
[20:36] <cocolos> Jordan_U: I get Downloading package indexes failed..
[20:36] <IntuitiveNipple> erisdiscordia: I found you need to right-click the desktop, choose Change Desktop Background, select any other background then reselect the one you want, then log-out/log-in .. then it gets it
[20:36] <iceroot> wingnut2626: not supported here
[20:36] <tostwicks> what controls the indexing in the dash/hud?  I upgraded from lucid to precise, hardware failures interrupted, the result is only partly functional
[20:36] <Jordan_U> cocolos: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"?
[20:36] <IntuitiveNipple> wingnut2626: Microsoft ?
[20:36] <cocolos> Jordan_U: 1 sec.
[20:37] <Jordan_U> !ot | wingnut2626
[20:38] <_ferret_> okay, rebooting into ubuntu now, exciting
[20:38] <Jordan_U> wingnut2626: And in fact I probably shouldn't have given that factoid as any answer but "legally from Microsoft" is offtopic for this entire network (Freenode).
[20:38] <cocolos> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/y1uhJPeA
[20:38] <Trian3> Jordan_U:  rofl!
[20:38] <KM0201> azimut: what was that link again to that video?
[20:39] <azimut> KM0201: http://mediathek-video.br.de/B7Mediathek.html?bc=_163753644&bccode=bfs
[20:40] <tostwicks> Anyone know what package does the indexing used in the HUD?
[20:42] <cocolos> Jordan_U: Any idea?
[20:42] <escott> tostwicks, zeitgeist
[20:43] <tostwicks> escott: thanks
[20:43] <Guest63374> how i can change nick ?
[20:44] <Trian3> I think everyone's on break...
[20:44] <auronandace> Guest63374: /nick newnick
[20:45] <Paulo39> hi guys. i have a really annoying problem with firefox rendering. as you can see in this image http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1890161/Temp/firefoxfont.png the fonts are not properly rendered. can you help me solving this?
[20:46] <accel24> KM0201: zykotic10: ... so now I have 'twinview' enabled, but I have some sort of weird mix between spanning and cloning... the top and left bars are cloned.... but windows seem to span... also, the 'displays' section still is goofy and shows a 3360x1050 laptop.... I guess I was hoping that after I enabled them in the nvidia settings I'd be able to use the normal 'displays' window....
[20:46] <SDr> hey ubuntu, my upstart's getting buggy: start mysql says start: Job is already running: mysql , but ps aux | grep mysql   disagrees
[20:46] <KM0201> accel24: i think thats an issue w/ unity and dual screens, to be honest (i've not messed w/ Unity and dual screens much)
[20:47] <accel24> I haven't had this much trouble with dual monitors in 4-5yrs of running linux....
[20:47] <SDr> do you guys know where upstart stores the pid for started demons?
[20:47] <escott> SDr, thats been a problem with init since system V. mysql segfaulted and left a pid file in /run
[20:48] <IntuitiveNipple> accel24: When using NVIDIA the standard display application cannot be used, you have to use nvidia-x-settings
[20:48] <accel24> it's never done that to me before, which is why this is frustrating
[20:48] <accel24> it's always just... worked
[20:48] <SDr> escott, errrrrrrrrrrrm. System V is grandpa's calculator.
[20:48] <escott> accel24, nvidia doesnt support xinerama the way the others do
[20:49] <Seryth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960840#postcount6754888 I'm trying to follow this guide, but I can't work out how to download the correct stuff from launchpad...help please!
[20:49] <accel24> on this machine I've always run fedora.... but it's never been a problem... and I was planning on moving all of my office machines over to ubuntu... and they are all dual monitor setups....
[20:49] <LiquidDemocracy> How can I restart networking on Ubuntu on the command line in 12.04?
[20:51] <IntuitiveNipple> LiquidDemocracy: If I recall correctly: sudo service network-manager restart
[20:53] <Guest60320> hi
[20:54] <Guest50338> hi
[20:54] <cocolos> hi
[20:55] <cocolos> I get no cuda-capable device is detected after I use the installer from nvidia for sdk and drivers
[21:00] <logankemp> hello
[21:03] <cocolos> anyone aorund?
[21:03] <Varsuchi> yes
[21:04] <cocolos> Varsuchi: I am having problems with installing cuda drivers….I get noe cuda-capable device detected
[21:04] <bodom> hi there
[21:05] <cocolos> hello
[21:05] <bodom> is it safe to delete /var/lib/dpkg/available?
[21:05] <Varsuchi> what ver of ubuntu
[21:05] <cocolos> any help getting cuda up and running again?
[21:05] <cocolos> Varsuchi: 10.04
[21:05] <accel24> KM0201: zykotic10: the winning combination was to unplug the second monitor, and reboot... then plug it back in and 'detect displays' ..... now my only annoyance is that it has the time/user/setting stuff in the top right of both screens
[21:05] <Varsuchi> cocolos: try following this guide: http://wiki.accelereyes.com/wiki/index.php/Installing_CUDA_Under_Ubuntu_10.04
[21:05] <ferris-> after upgrading to 12.04 lts... audacity will not start... I have removed it completely through synaptec and reinstalled it... no go, then I removed it, updated my repository, reinstalled and still no go.
[21:06] <ferris-> any help would be appreciated
[21:06] <ferris-> this is not the only package that doesn't work
[21:06] <cocolos> Varsuchi: Do I still blacklist the same kernel modules even though the version I am installing is different?
[21:06] <ferris-> there are others
[21:06] <ferris-> but I need audacity to work
[21:06] <ferris-> i need to convert wav to mp3 files
[21:06] <IntuitiveNipple> ferris-: Probably a local configuration issue ... try starting it from a terminal and seeing what it tells you
[21:07] <xangua> ferris-: did you try to run audacity in the comand line to see what error(s) get¿
[21:07] <ferris-> alsa lib errors
[21:07] <Varsuchi> cocolos: im not sure. I would follow the guide and try it exactly how they suggest.
[21:08] <fanthomas> hi, can somebody tell me how to reset default source list? can I choose some official mirror from the command line?
[21:08] <cocolos> Varsuchi: ok thanks I'll give it a shot
[21:08] <IntuitiveNipple> ferris-: I get a lot of those but Audacity does start... what is the last thing you see?
[21:08] <sil3nt|warri0r> as ubuntu installd on sdb2, boot on sdb1 with grub on a 16gb pendrive... how do i add entry of a backtrack live to grub ?
[21:08] <xangua> ferris-: how about you pastebin and show us the actual error¿
[21:08] <sil3nt|warri0r> backtrack installd on sdb3
[21:08] <Mantric> ok! got ubuntu installed now for the first time
[21:08] <ferris-> jackserver is not running or cannot be started
[21:09] <ferris-> segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:09] <IntuitiveNipple> ferris-: I see that too but Audacity starts... so its not revealing the problem in those messages... let me check more
[21:10] <Duality> could i run a virtual machine on ubuntu server ?
[21:10] <sil3nt|warri0r> Duality: i guess yes
[21:10] <IntuitiveNipple> ferris-: Just to test if this is caused by your current local config, move the audacity settings folder temporarily: cd $HOME && mv .audacity-data .audacity-data.backup
[21:10] <Duality> yea but run like a os on it?
[21:11] <IntuitiveNipple> ferris-: Then try starting Audacity
[21:11] <Duality> with graphics and everything ?
[21:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> Duality: yes
[21:11] <Duality> virtualbox ose that is
[21:11] <Duality> cool
[21:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Duality: If you connect to the VM from another PC, yes,
[21:12] <cocolos> Still doesn't work…no cuda capable device is detected? any ideas?
[21:13] <EvilResistance> cocolos:  is your card verified to have CUDA support?
[21:13] <cocolos> EvilResistance: Yes I had it running before, I upgraded drivers
[21:14] <cocolos> EvilResistance: and the sdk
[21:16] <cocolos> EvilResistance: I found this http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=171168
[21:16] <cocolos> EvilResistance: how would I run that script at boot up?
[21:16] <david_> hello everyone!
[21:16] <cocolos> david_: hi.
[21:23] <Catscaul> Guys. My PC boots on text mode. When I start X interface, its process keep running on tty1, still on my account. Anyone can, then, get there and use my account. Is there some way of chaging this? Can someone here help me?
[21:24] <Catscaul> I've searched on the web, posted on forum, but still... nothing.
[21:25] <cocolos> Catscaul: what version are you running
[21:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Catscaul: what Ubuntu version? what desktop environment? how are oyu starting X?
[21:25] <bit0> Hello, I need to install i386 software to  my amd64 12.04 Ubuntu system. Any suggestion?, please
[21:25] <Mantric> how to enter another drive? possible to link 'documents', 'movies' to another drive
[21:26] <Catscaul> IntuitiveNipple: I'm using Lucid Lynx, Gnome, starting with startx command.
[21:26] <IntuitiveNipple> bit0: 12.04 uses multi-libs so you can install i386 .deb packages
[21:26] <IntuitiveNipple> Catscaul: Why not start it with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:26] <cocolos> no cuda-capable device detected anyone familiar with it after updating drivers?
[21:26] <Catscaul> Intuitive Nipple: Because I didn't even know about this way of doing that.
[21:27] <Catscaul> Intuitive Nipple: Starting this way... Won't the process still keep running on tty1?
[21:27] <IntuitiveNipple> CatKiller: ahh! yes, it does all the special stuff including moving to tty7
[21:27] <IntuitiveNipple> oops!
[21:27] <david_> ls
[21:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Catscaul: : ahh! yes, it does all the special stuff including moving to tty7
[21:28] <david_> #politics
[21:29] <Catscaul> Intuitive Nipple: But startx does that too. Thing is... It goes to tty7, yes, but tty1 keeps "paused" on startx. I mean, if I get there and give a CTRL + C: a) I'll be still logged on my account. b) This would stop X on tty7.
[21:29] <Catscaul> Intuitive Nipple: Do you understand the problem? I can't explain myself very well. =X
[21:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Catscaul: Yes I understand - it sounds as if you may have a custom xinitrc or xserverrc or similar file
[21:32] <bit0> IntuitiveNipple, sorry, how could I use multi-libs?
[21:32] <Mantric> how do I even browse my other harddrives? for example the one with windows.. where I have all my videos and music
[21:34] <Catscaul> Intuitive Nipple: Maybe. I really don't know. I just want X to run independently of whoever starts it, that tty7 run apart of tty1 (or wherever it has started).,
[21:34] <cocolos> no cuda-capable device detected anyone familiar with it after updating drivers?
[21:35] <Mantric> can't see my other hard drives
[21:39] <Catscaul> Intuitive Nipple: Well, I'll try your sugestion. Thank you very much.
[21:39] <Catscaul> Intuitive Nipple: See ya.
[21:39] <Mantric> so it seems I can't access my files on my windows hard drive
[21:40] <dibs> I moved my home to a different drive and upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and now my apache can't serv any site
[21:40] <FishFace> Mantric, they should all be listed when you click on the Home folder
[21:40] <dibs> I keep getting 403 errors, not sure how to resolve, and help?
[21:41] <dibs> *any help?
[21:41] <Mantric> I don't see my windows drive anywhere
[21:43] <Aboba> Anyone know if it's possible to compile an application on 32-bit 11.10, and then transfer it to 64-bit 12.04?
[21:43] <Aboba> They broke my compile :(
[21:43] <sergio> hello
[21:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Aboba: Yes, it is
[21:43] <Aboba> IntuitiveNipple, do I just copy the folder of the compiled app?
[21:44] <Guest36596> i am using the Pinguy 11.10
[21:44] <dibs> Has the upgrades to pangolin been breaking other peoples apache?
[21:44] <Aboba> it broke my wine compiling, that's for sure
[21:44] <Guest36596> how can i change my scroll to a different color
[21:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Aboba: For cross-compiling on the same arch you need to pass additional options to the compiler so it knows what target to build for
[21:45] <Aboba> IntuitiveNipple, ah, awesome, um, what?
[21:45] <Aboba> could you point me at some article that explains?
[21:46] <IntuitiveNipple> Aboba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers#A32-bit_Builds_on_AMD64
[21:47] <winb> hello
[21:48] <donkey3> herro
[21:48] <donkey3> is it possible to change the id of the irssi user?
[21:48] <donkey3> like see how wilson@145.3343.3434.44 etc.
[21:48] <donkey3> can u change that to wilson3@21.2323.2332
[21:49] <men> where is berry derricious cakeshop?
[21:51] <iceroot> donkey3: sure it is .3343 and not a normal ipv4 adrress?
[21:52] <donkey3> no i jsut made up digits
[21:52] <donkey3> it's a normal ip
[21:52] <iceroot> donkey3: so you want to change the ip or the part before the @?
[21:52] <ClientAlive> what is a command I can run (apt-get <some flags/flags ? >  to find out what apps are installed but exclude anything that's part of the core system ?
[21:52] <donkey3> the before part
[21:53] <iceroot> donkey3: change the username or maybe there is an irssi-config see #irssi
[21:53] <donkey3> k
[21:53] <donkey3> tnx
[21:53] <iceroot> ClientAlive: not possible with one dpkg-command
[21:54] <iceroot> ClientAlive: use "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" and then get all packagenames from the core-system and diff the two results
[21:55] <ClientAlive> iceroot: right on, but, what does ^ii stand for (some kind of posix I'm guessing) - and - how to I "get all packagenames from the core-system" ?
[21:56] <Floyd42> When is the end of life for Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:57] <cdm10> !eol | Floyd42
[21:57] <ClientAlive> Floyd42: I thought it was 2 yrs after release for LTS
[21:57] <dj_segfault> ClientAlive: ^ means beginning of line, so ^li would match a line that starts with li
[21:58] <Floyd42> clientalive ubottu: thanks.  so that means 10.04 should have already reached EOL, right?
[21:58] <Hieberr> Hey everyone, what
[21:58] <Resistance> Floyd42:  no, EOL is a 3 year support
[21:58] <Resistance> !10.04 | Floyd42
[21:58] <Hieberr> is a good alternative to Thunderbird?
[21:58] <`prixon> is there an email client that can connect to an exchange server via owa and also hotmail (without downloading all the mails, just preview them)
[21:59] <Floyd42> clientalive ubottu: there was some talk of extending the EOL date for 10.04 since it was the last distro with gnome 2 ..
[21:59] <Resistance> Floyd42:  5 for server
[21:59] <ClientAlive> Floyd42: I ubottu is a computer program. I did the same thing at first :)
[21:59] <Resistance> `prixon:  exchange stuff isnt processed via OWA
[21:59] <dj_segfault> Hieberr: That depends. What don't you like about Thunderbird?
[21:59] <Resistance> `prixon:  OWA isnt built to handle email routing requests, so you'd need the exch server info set up in your system.
[21:59] <Floyd42> clientalive resistance: haha, d'oh!  okay, so it's 2013 for 10.04
[21:59] <Resistance> Floyd42:  yep, see ubottu
[22:00] <Resistance> !10.04 > Floyd42
[22:00] <`prixon> what sort of info?
[22:00] <cdm10> ...Wow, Unity really does not get along with Xchat-Gnome
[22:00] <Hieberr> dj_segfault: I don't like that I have to keep thunderbird open at all times to get notifications. That and it looks too cluttered to me.
[22:01] <Floyd42> resistance: gotcha, thanks
[22:02] <Hieberr> So yeah, any lightweight alternatives to Thunderbird?
[22:03] <xtjacob> I'm compiling my own kernel, and it's been sitting at "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms" for about 2 hours now. Should it be taking this long?
[22:06] <rinzler> is there a way to boot from the 12.04 iso in order to upgrade? would I need to have the iso on another partition?
[22:07] <bodom> rinzler: you don't have a cd-drive?
[22:08] <`prixon> which mail client can connect to hotmail and gmail without downloading all the mails?
[22:09] <rinzler> bodom: Just don't want to use a cd if I don't have to
[22:10] <bodom> rinzler: if you want to boot iso, you have to burn it on a cd or make a bootable usb stick.
[22:10] <Floyd42> Is there any alternative to Thunderbird and Evolution?  What does LXDE and XFCE use?
[22:10] <bodom> rinzler: otherwise, you can always upgrade from internet
[22:10] <bodom> rinzler: anyway, be prepared to see your sistem exploding while upgrading :)
[22:10] <cdm10> rinzler, you cannot actually upgrade from the ISO unless it's the alternate ISO.
[22:11] <_ferret_> I'm using windows, I OWN you
[22:11] <_ferret_> okok, thats trolling
[22:11] <cdm10> rinzler, in addition, you can boot from ISOs on your hard drive, but I've never done it.
[22:11] <_ferret_> well I booted into Ubuntu but couldn't figure out a way to access my windows hard drive
[22:12] <cdm10> rinzler, here: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[22:12] <michael__> hello I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 alongside my windows 7
[22:12] <michael__> I am having a lot of trouble though. can anyone help me?
[22:12] <cdm10> _ferret_, open up the file manager, do you see anything under Devices in the left panel?
[22:12] <bodom> `prixon: I don't now about hotmail, but for gmail any IMAP mail client will fit
[22:12] <cdm10> michael__, how are you trying to run the install?
[22:13] <bodom> _ferret_: you should see it under /media
[22:13] <bm27_> So, I've been having issues getting some web content working lately. Namely Pandora, Grooveshark, even Facebook sometimes. I've tried enabling/disabling javascript, uninstalling/reinstalling flash, and testing accross several browsers...what should I try next?
[22:13] <michael__> i tried booting from a disc, and since that didn't work I installed with wubi
[22:13] <cdm10> bodom, this isn't true -- it won't usually auto-mount until you click it in nautilus.
[22:13] <cdm10> michael__, what happened when you booted from a disk?
[22:13] <Floyd42> bm27: what is the exact error you're getting?
[22:14] <michael__> it took a long time to load, and in fact never made it to any sort of screen. all it showed was the desktop
[22:14] <ThePendulum> Are there any nice system temperature monitors for Ubuntu that have the option to graph temperatures over time and print them (at least graph them so they can be printed by screenshot or something)
[22:14] <rinzler> cdm10: that's what I was looking for. Thanks!
[22:14] <cdm10> michael__, is this from the wubi install or booting from the CD?
[22:14] <cdm10> rinzler, I don't remember what I helped you with, but glad I could help :)
[22:15] <danes> hello, my sound card is not sending audio. In windows when I plug a speaker in the front jack, it mutes the rear jack. It looks like it does the same here in ubuntu but when I disconnected the speaker from the front jack I cannot get any audio. I tried plugging another speaker back but still no audio. I checked in the audio settings but nothing seems to work. Is there a way to reset the audio via terminal?
[22:15] <_ferret_> cdm10: what does /media mean? I have to enter a command prompt?
[22:15] <michael__> from cd. everything was INCREDIBLY slow. I couldn't even move the mouse
[22:15] <_ferret_> i tried lokating my video and music on my windows drive with the media player in ubuntu too
[22:15] <cdm10> _ferret_, did you answer my prior question about what you see in the file manager?
[22:15] <_ferret_> didn't see, wait
[22:15] <cocolos> what does Create Device Nodes for CUDA? mean?
[22:16] <cdm10> michael__, what are your system's specs?
[22:16] <cocolos> do I need to do that when installing cuda?
[22:16] <bodom> danes: alsamixer
[22:16] <cdm10> _ferret_, go to Go > Computer
[22:16] <_ferret_> I'm  not on ubuntu now but I can check tomorrow
[22:16] <michael__> core i5 2500k, nvidia ge force GTX 460, 4 gb ram, 7200 rpm hdd
[22:17] <cdm10> michael__, well, clearly, that's too slow a system :P (kidding)
[22:17] <michael__> :P
[22:17] <`prixon> bodom, if hotmail supports imap then I would be able to just preview the subjects without downloading them? but still delete them and they will be deleted from hotmail?
[22:17] <cocolos> no cuda-capable device detected anyone familiar with it after updating drivers?
[22:17] <cdm10> michael__, you said you tried the Wubi install, what happened with that?
[22:18] <cdm10> michael__, the slow behavior from the LiveCD might be because the CD is corrupt or scratched.
[22:18] <semitones_tea> in 12.04, are the default buttons as follows: "close, minimize, maximize:menu" ?
[22:18] <semitones_tea> for windows
[22:18] <bodom> `prixon: yep, but note that in imap when you delete a mail it gets marked "as deleted" and cleared lately when you use the "expunge" function
[22:18] <michael__> wubi installed but when i try and boot into it it crashes and i get scratchy lines across the screen like i got an overheated video card
[22:19] <michael__> but i know it's not the video card because windows 7 works perfectly
[22:19] <semitones_tea> (i'm using unity 2d, and sometime in the past, someone changed the buttons around in gconf)
[22:19] <`prixon> so either thunderbird or evolution will work fine you say...
[22:19] <cdm10> semitones_tea, those buttons sound right to me, though I don't think we have a window menu any more.
[22:19] <`prixon> what info should I get about the exchange server in order to connect to it from my house and not from work?
[22:19] <semitones_tea> ok, thanks cdm10 :)
[22:19] <cdm10> michael__, that's strange... how long did you wait for it? It could have been loading something.
[22:20] <semitones_tea> anyone else know for sure where the buttons are
[22:20] <RadPal> Question please: I'm preparing a partition for install of 64bit Ubuntu [HP dv6 i7 8GB RAM] Should it be ext2, ext3, ext4, or something else?
[22:20] <danes> bodom, for some reason the headphones option does not change
[22:20] <michael__> i waited over 5 minutes
[22:20] <cdm10> semitones_tea, I'm looking at this window's titlebar... it's close, minimize, maximize, but there's no window menu.
[22:20] <semitones_tea> oh ok, thanks!
[22:21] <c__> I've done a minimal install 12.04 and added packages (Gnome3) as I go. Now my window buttons are missing. metacity --replace & works until reboot. A more permanent solution?
[22:21] <semitones_tea> c__: i'm just a dumb luser, but what about editing it in gconf-editor?
[22:21] <matthew-parlette> i'm looking for some help on adding support in the HUD for an application, any idea where i can go for help on that (IRC channel or web link?)
[22:21] <cdm10> michael__, it seems like there's some weird hardware compatibility issue, unless it's an issue with the CD. You could try verifying the CD from the CD boot menu.
[22:21] <websly> Hello
[22:22] <xiamx> c__, are you using gnome3 with shell?
[22:22] <c__> The setting in gconf says it's deprecated. I tried adding values to those keys but nothing
[22:22] <michael__> is it better to install with wubi? because that bypasses the cd. which means even if the cd was bad then it should have installed just fine
[22:22] <websly> When I press ALT a very annoying dash command thing pops up. can this be turned off?
[22:22] <c__> xiamx yes
[22:22] <websly> ubuntu 12.04
[22:23] <cdm10> websly, That's the HUD, it's very useful, but I agree, it's very irritating to have it be bound to alt. However, I didn't see a GUI option to remap it -- I'll look around, though.
[22:23] <xiamx> c__, i'd use gnome-shell --replace at the place of metacity --replace
[22:23] <michael__> my girlfriend installed ubuntu with the same cd that i'm trying to use
[22:23] <c__> xiamx thanks ill try that
[22:24] <cdm10> michael__, what make is your computer / motherboard if it's self-built?
[22:24] <websly> Thank you cdm10
[22:24] <michael__> gigabyte
[22:24] <c__> xiamx no go.
[22:25] <scar3crow> can anybody tell me why this: --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271674 <-- works for fluxbox and nor gnome?
[22:25] <Church> Hmm. I'm thinking about upgrading to 12.04 soon .. i certainly don't want nor unity nor gnome3 shell.  any advices/comparisons of available gnome2ish alternatives? Cinnamon/gnome-classic fallback option/that gnome2 port .. or should i go for lubuntu (can xfce be tunable to look like gnome2?)
[22:25] <cdm10> websly, it can be changed in the keyboard shortcut settings.
[22:25] <bit0> how could I install libc6:1386 ?
[22:25] <c__> Church - check out joes window manager
[22:26] <xiamx> c__, well if metacity --replace works for you, you can add it to gnome-session-properties, so it run on every login time
[22:26] <cdm10> websly, it's under the launcher category.
[22:26] <websly> I looked there and didnt see anything binded to only ALT, but maby I missed it.  Ill have another look
[22:27] <michael__> my motherboard is gigabyte
[22:27] <cdm10> websly, if you see Alt L, that actually means the left Alt key, not alt+L :)
[22:28] <websly> yeah I just noticed ^^
[22:28] <cdm10> michael__, it may help to google your motherboard model and Ubuntu.
[22:28] <websly> thx for your help
[22:28] <bodom> I'm doin' a manual ubuntu upgrade (of course auto upgrade broken again). apt-get -u dist-upgrade; apt-get --pruge auto-remove; apt-get clean... did i forgot something?
[22:28] <michael__> ok i'll give that a shot
[22:28] <michael__> thanks
[22:28] <Church> c__: looks like some fluxbox. well, uber lightweightness is not my main priority. Just that i don't wish to change my desktop usage habbits from current config (single panel on top with notification area/main menu/virtual desktops/weather&time/quick launch icons, windows list and lately also appmenu
[22:29] <Dany1> chromium don't show download progres bar in unity (ubuntu 12.04),can somebody help me with this?
[22:29] <cocolos> CUDA error: no CUDA-capable device is detected I reinstalled drivers
[22:36] <bm27_> So, I've been having issues getting some web content working lately. Namely Pandora, Grooveshark, even Facebook sometimes. I've tried enabling/disabling javascript, uninstalling/reinstalling flash, and testing accross several browsers...what should I try next?
[22:37] <a_b0y> bm27_ try windows, that's what i did
[22:37] <deww> maybe you're behind a proxy that's caching things
[22:38] <bm27_> a_b0y: Like the OS? somehow that doesn't seem like a solution. I don't believe I am, but it might be worth looking into. Generally they load for a good 2-3 seconds, then blank out or give me a flash error.
[22:38] <Church> bm27_: btw, are things working better, if you do shift+reload? (IIRC should tell browser/proxy to bypass caching)
[22:39] <troulouliou_dev> hi samba is not listening on 445 port since migration to 12.04 i see standard input is not a socket, assuming -D option in the smbd log
[22:39] <bm27_> Church: Shift + reload isn't doing anything, and I've cleared the cache a few times
[22:39] <rinzler> does anybody know of anything that would allow my machine to run as a bluetooth audio endpoint?
[22:40] <a_b0y> bm17_ i had trouble with some websites also, i couldn't even send stuff via webmail, and javascript doesn't load webpages accurately at times... i installed windows and everything just works well
[22:40] <fartman> I did a dist upgrade via ssh and now there is no longer a GUI login.
[22:41] <a_b0y> i still use ubuntu, but if i want to be productive and actually get things done i use windows
[22:41] <Dany1> chromium don't show download progres bar in unity (ubuntu 12.04),can somebody help me with this?
[22:42] <Zimba> you should use the wine a_b0y
[22:42] <a_b0y> Zimba i tried wine, but the webamil issues still occurred
[22:43] <a_b0y> i mean not wine, i tried virtualbox
[22:44] <scar3crow> how can I change my videoram allocatation or agpapp
[22:44] <scar3crow> ?
[22:44] <jagginess> a_b0y, you have trouble with websites? maybe it's websites not made for firefox.
[22:44] <bm27_> a_boy: blah, I use Ubuntu over Windows for lots of reasons, one of them being that this computer probably couldn't run Windows XP very well anymore. I'm doing everything off a jumpdrive on this FUBAR Latitude D510 laptop.
[22:44] <fabiano_melo> test
[22:44] <bm27_> jagginess: I'm having website troubles accross all browsers, not just FF
[22:44] <a_b0y> jagginess i use firefox on ubuntu and windows, problems only happen when using ubuntu
[22:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> bm27_, what kind of website troubles?
[22:45] <jagginess> maybe it's an outlook website..
[22:45] <a_b0y> bm27_ that was the same problem i was having amoung others
[22:45] <a_b0y> jagginess what are the issues with outlook websites?
[22:46] <jagginess> a_b0y, it's more tailored for ms internetexplorer
[22:46] <bm27_> Sir_Fawnpug: Mostly Flash probleems I'm feeling. Flash content loads for ~2 seconds and then crashes (no crash message except in case of Grooveshark)
[22:46] <a_b0y> i know one of the website was using outlook
[22:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> bm27_, flash has always been kind of wonky on Linux
[22:47] <alphanumeric`> Hi.
[22:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> bm27_, I think there's an open source implementation of flash, but I believe even adobe is trying to get users to migrate away from it
[22:47] <alphanumeric`> Anyone know how to change splash screen manually.
[22:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> In favor of HTML 5
[22:47] <JoeLlama> hrm... something tells me this is the major ubuntu IRC channel
[22:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> JoeLlama, the official one if I'm not mistaken
[22:48] <JoeLlama> yup it only has one #
[22:48] <alphanumeric`> lightdm is missing or broken.
[22:48] <bm27_> Sir_Fawnpug: Yeah :-/ i've uninstalled/reinstalled it a few times now. Disabled and re-enabled it in various browsers, and cleared cache info. The official Flash site has tons of packages for linux users, I've been using the APT, maybe I should re-try my hand at tar.gz stuff though.
[22:48] <jagginess> bm27_, be sure to be using adobeflash and not gnu's flash
[22:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> bm27_, if you do that make sure you have multiverse
[22:49] <aragorn5> are there any cons to upgrading to 12.04?
[22:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, do you have a broadcom wireless card?
[22:49] <aragorn5> (from 10.04)
[22:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, well there's always the possibility the upgrader will bail out
[22:49] <aragorn5> Sir_Fawnpug, i can use one if i want
[22:49] <jagginess> aragorn5, i think you have to upgrade from 10->11, then 11->12
[22:49] <bm27_> jagginess, Sir_Fawnpug: Hmm, where would I go to make sure I'm using the correct Flash? also how do I check for Multiverse presence?
[22:49] <JoeLlama> It's certainly a BIG channel :)
[22:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> If you install from scratch make sure you blacklist b43 first
[22:49] <aragorn5> jagginess, ah ok , ty
[22:50] <jagginess> bm27_, google: ubuntu wiki flash
[22:50] <aragorn5> Sir_Fawnpug, blacklist b43?! that's that?
[22:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> bm27_, if you open up synaptic you should be able to set that in repositories
[22:50] <jagginess> !flash
[22:50] <alphanumeric`> Hello
[22:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, the lack of the b43 firmware seems to cause a kernel panic on the livecd
[22:50] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, ran into it last night when I was working on indoctr-- err, introducing my neighbor to ubuntu
[22:50] <aragorn5> Sir_Fawnpug, holy mother of god!
[22:51] <alphanumeric`> You could always download the flash files manually and then watch them via VLC player.
[22:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/956677
[22:51] <aragorn5> Sir_Fawnpug, i don't use wireless card.
[22:51] <josten> I just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 LTS.  How do I keep the dash visible on the desktop, but hide when applications get opened?  This used to be automatic in 11.10.
[22:51] <alphanumeric`> Browser based flash is really just a fast ticket for advertising.
[22:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, right, but if you have a broadcom card on your machine it'll probably try and autoload the module
[22:51] <trism> josten: dodge windows is gone in 12.04
[22:51] <jiohdi> can you run the new unity menu thing independently like on openbox for example?
[22:52] <ki4ro> josten: Try MYUNITY...it should help you set up your display the way you want it
[22:52] <trism> josten: bug 930148
[22:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, if you're not installing onto something that has such a card though, I imagine you should be fine
[22:52] <trism> josten: although there are links to workarounds in that bug report
[22:53] <aragorn5> Sir_Fawnpug, gottcha, thanks
[22:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, in my case the update from 11.04 to 11.10 gave me issues when I tried upgrading
[22:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> So you might want to keep that in mind
[22:53] <rinzler> ok, so pulse audio is really super unstable. does anyone know of steps to take to make it more reliable?
[22:54] <bm27_> jagginess, Sir_Fawnpug: Thanks for the help guys! Think I got it now.
[22:54] <josten> Thanks trism and ki4ro for the help.
[22:54] <aragorn5> Sir_Fawnpug, I guess I could always make a liveusb to test the grounds first
[22:55] <Sir_Fawnpug> aragorn5, that's certainly a possibility
[22:55] <Sir_Fawnpug> I've found that LiveUSB works pretty well if your bios supprots it (or if you have grub already)
[22:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> If you happen to have grub but no USB booting support you can trick grub into booting it for you
[22:57] <jagginess> Sir_Fawnpug, but grub wouldnt be on the usb
[22:57] <Sir_Fawnpug> jagginess, well I meant on the MBR of whatever the host drive is
[22:59] <paul_> hi all can you see me
[22:59] <RossPaterson14> hi guys, any chance of getting some help? :)
[22:59] <RossPaterson14> yep
[22:59] <paul_> cool Im new to linux
[23:02] <scar3crow> how do I chance my gpu driver from mesa to intel?
[23:02] <scar3crow> change
[23:05] <Daekdroom> scar3crow, I'm not sure what you're implying. It is only a mesa driver that provides 3D acceleration for most Intel cards.
[23:05] <scar3crow> :(
[23:05] <Daekdroom> It is possible, however, that you're using the Mesa software renderer.
[23:05] <scar3crow> I am experiencing poor vid performance in doom3 with 512mb vram
[23:06] <Daekdroom> What is your VGA?
[23:06] <scar3crow> intel 82g33
[23:07] <scar3crow> yes I AM using the "mesa" renderer, how do I change it to opengl?
[23:08] <Daekdroom> G33 should have 3D support enabled by default.
[23:08] <Daekdroom> Could you pastebin the output of 'glxinfo | grep OpenGL'? Installing mesa-utils package might be necessary
[23:09] <Chris_0076> is there anyway to get rid of the solid black bar that is the hover text in ubuntu 12.04 (gnome classic)?
[23:09] <scar3crow> ok ty
[23:11] <scar3crow> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
[23:11] <scar3crow> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
[23:11] <scar3crow> OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 8.0.2
[23:11] <scar3crow> OpenGL extensions:
[23:11] <FloodBot1> scar3crow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:11] <scar3crow> sorry
[23:11] <scar3crow> pastebin wasnt opening
[23:11] <Daekdroom> scar3crow, everything looks ok there.
[23:12] <Backtrackhelp> Hola
[23:12] <Backtrackhelp> Hi
[23:12] <Resistance> Backtrackhelp:  preemptive: if you're going to ask about backtrack linux, this isnt the channel
[23:12] <scar3crow> so I see... why oh why does my game lag?
[23:12] <DropsOfSerenity> hey guys i'm interested in knowing if there are any plans in unity to implement the modal dialogs, that are already implemented in gnome 3, this is enabled in gtk3, we should start utilizing the technology, anyone know anything or where I can read about such plans?
[23:12] <Backtrackhelp> Yes, but it isn't for backtrack only
[23:12] <Backtrackhelp> Backtrack is based on Ubuntu 10.10
[23:13] <Backtrackhelp> So I think is a question for ubuntu 10.10
[23:13] <rinzler> what's the key to hold to make grub show a list at boot?
[23:13] <LinuxMonkey> !backtrack | Backtrackhelp
[23:14] <Chris_0076> this is what I am talking about: http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9398/screenshotfrom201205061.png
[23:14] <Daekdroom> DropsOfSerenity, they were almost shipped in 11.10, iirc, but were removed due to a serious of issues. I'm not sure what are the current plans for them.
[23:14] <Backtrackhelp> But my queston is not for backtrack
[23:14] <Backtrackhelp> Is for ubuntu
[23:14] <Chris_0076> that is what all the mouse over texts look like for me even on ubuntu menus
[23:14] <DropsOfSerenity> Daekdroom, I see, thank you for the information. Know where I can read more about the decision?
[23:14] <Daekdroom> Chris_0076, GNOME Classic session has some themeing issues, specially with compiz (as opposed to metacity)
[23:14] <LinuxMonkey> also Backtrackhelp  10.10 is End of Life
[23:15] <Resistance> Backtrackhelp:  just checking ;P
[23:15] <Resistance> Backtrackhelp:  also if the quesiton is on 10.10...
[23:15] <Resistance> !10.10 | Backtrackhelp
[23:15] <Resistance> Backtrackhelp:  you'll need to upgrade to continue to get upgrades
[23:15] <Resistance> Backtrackhelp:  having said this, we can try to help you, so ask your question
[23:15] <Resistance> (although note you will probably need Natty or later to get any real updates/fixes)
[23:16] <Backtrackhelp> Yes
[23:16] <Backtrackhelp> Sorry
[23:16] <Backtrackhelp> I can't change my desktop resolution
[23:16] <cocolos> hello
[23:16] <Backtrackhelp> I have changed Xorg.conf so many times...
[23:16] <Backtrackhelp> But I cant
[23:16] <cocolos> does anyone know about loading cuda after installing the drivers?
[23:16] <Chris_0076> also, why does ubuntu 12.04 make windows jump to the top of the screen when I let of of them
[23:16] <Chris_0076> ?
[23:16] <Daekdroom> DropsOfSerenity, never seen anywhere about the decision.
[23:17] <rinzler> what's the key to hold to make grub show a list at boot?
[23:17] <Backtrackhelp> So... anybody can't help me?
[23:17] <Chris_0076> for example, if I try to move a window half way down the screen. When I move it it will stay, but the instant I click anywhere else and it jumps back to the top of the screen
[23:17] <jhansonxi> rinzler: shift key
[23:17] <stacyspc> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 and i have a problem with my internal wifi adapter.i have a dell inspiron 1501
[23:17] <rinzler> jhansonxi: thanks!
[23:17] <OerHeks> Backtrackhelp, depends on what videocard you have
[23:17] <ClientAlive> If I create a logical volume after the system is installed, and I want it to mount automatically when I boot the computer, how can I do that? I'm using ubuntu 12.04 btw.
[23:18] <cocolos> I got an error with cuda while trying to run deviceQuery
[23:18] <rinzler> !wifi | stacyspc
[23:18] <Backtrackhelp> Look, after this ubuntu I was with this PC on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:18] <DropsOfSerenity> Daekdroom, for all interested, this article has what I was talking about: http://iloveubuntu.net/compiz-modal-dialog-delayed-oneiric1
[23:18] <Backtrackhelp> With 1280/720
[23:18] <Backtrackhelp> In hd
[23:18] <DropsOfSerenity> Daekdroom, Thanks, for your help.
[23:18] <Backtrackhelp> Now with this 10.10
[23:18] <jhansonxi> ClientAlive: The LVM will be active at boot.  Just add an entry for the LVM volume mount point in /etc/fstab.
[23:18] <Backtrackhelp> Ubuntu
[23:18] <rinzler> stacyspc: that will usually help, but if that documentation doesn't check back here for more help
[23:19] <rinzler> :)
[23:19] <Backtrackhelp> I cant change my desktop
[23:19] <ClientAlive> jhansonxi: so it's still /etc/fstab with 12.04 ?
[23:19] <ubuntu> How can I chroot into my system from a Live CD?
[23:20] <jhansonxi> ClientAlive: I haven't heard anything different (it's been the standard for decades).  However, I'm still on 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).
[23:20] <Backtrackhelp> Anybody can help me?
[23:21] <ubuntu_> Hi. My Ubuntu 12.10 system crashed.  I'm on my computer now with a livecd of XUbuntu 9.10.  Can someone tell me how to mount my hard drive>?
[23:21] <stacyspc> thanks guys this is why i love linux
[23:21] <ClientAlive> jhansonxi: ok. I'll look at it. I thought some things changed for grub tho.
[23:21] <Backtrackhelp> lol 500 people in this irc and anybody cant help me
[23:21] <Backtrackhelp> lol
[23:21] <ubuntu> Backtrack, what is your problem. I'll help you while I wait for help (unless you know how to chroot, lol)
[23:22] <ubuntu_> Hi. My Ubuntu 12.10 system crashed.  I'm on my computer now with a livecd of XUbuntu 9.10.  Can someone tell me how to mount my hard drive>?
[23:22] <Firebolt> ubuntu_, you don't need to say it more than once
[23:22] <joltik> Hello?
[23:22] <ubuntu> ubuntu_: man chroot
[23:22] <ubuntu_> Sorry, notused to this system
[23:22] <joltik> I'm tring to install ubuntu on an old computer.
[23:22] <jhansonxi> ClientAlive: Grub only cares about /boot (where the kernel is located).  You only need to worry about that if you move your / (root) to the LVM and want to boot from it.
[23:22] <jrib> ubuntu_: 12.10 won't be released for a few months yet
[23:23] <joltik> I've made a "live dvd"
[23:23] <Backtrackhelp> ANYBODY CAN HHELP ME
[23:23] <Backtrackhelp> XD
[23:23] <ubuntu_> jrib  I meant 12.04
[23:23] <jrib> Backtrackhelp: just ask your actual question.
[23:23] <Backtrackhelp> Ok, I have 10.10
[23:23] <joltik> and I've gotten to a screen with a nonresponive mouse on the standard wallpaper with the black bar at the top
[23:23] <jrib> Backtrackhelp: but first -- are you using backtrack?
[23:23] <Backtrackhelp> And I cant
[23:23] <Backtrackhelp> Change my desktop reslution
[23:23] <jrib> Backtrackhelp: on one line.  Do not press enter.
[23:23] <Backtrackhelp> Yesterday I was with 12.04 LTS
[23:23] <musixuser_> hola!
[23:24] <LinuxMonkey> jrib:  ive already told him about EOL and Backtrack :)
[23:24] <Backtrackhelp> Ok
[23:24] <Backtrackhelp> EOL?
[23:24] <LinuxMonkey> End of Life
[23:24] <jrib> Backtrackhelp: backtrack support is not in this channel.  Do you know where you need to go?
[23:24] <musixuser_> I have troubles with Jack Control! Anybody could help me?
[23:24] <Backtrackhelp> I think EOL is a spanish forum?
[23:24] <ubuntu_> I have root access, but I can not find the mount command strings used to find a hard drive and mount it from a livecd.  Can someone help me out?
[23:24] <Backtrackhelp> Mother of god.... I have Ubuntu 10.10
[23:25] <Daekdroom> EOL is End of Life. i.e. No support.
[23:25] <Daekdroom> !10.10
[23:25] <pw-toxic> hi
[23:25] <Backtrackhelp> Ubuntu 10.10 has no support?
[23:25] <jrib> Backtrackhelp: if you have ubuntu 10.10 then you need to upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[23:25] <Daekdroom> !End-Of-Life
[23:25] <Backtrackhelp> Shit nigga
[23:25] <jhansonxi> Backtrackhelp: The resolution limits are usually determined through the DDC - a communications channel between the video card/GPU and the monitor  The driver queries the monitor and tries to figure out the available resolutions that are compatible with both the GPU and monitor.
[23:25] <jrib> Backtrackhelp: that language is not appropriate here
[23:26] <joltik> Now the signal to the screen stopped
[23:26] <pw-toxic> i just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10  to 11.4 and after a reboot, my desktop does not show up.. i can only see the background... i have waited for about 10 minutes now
[23:26] <musixuser_> joluuuooo
[23:26] <Backtrackhelp> Ok :P, Im just joking
[23:26] <pw-toxic> how can i restart the x-server from the command line? (i am connected via ssh from a different machine)
[23:26] <ubuntu_> I've tried 3 pages into google and I haven't found the commands I need.  That is why I am here.  Does anyone know enough to help me or should I move on?  Thanks
[23:26] <ubuntu> I need to run update-update grub in a chroot'd system, and /boot is mounted under a different partiton. What do I need to do?
[23:27] <jhansonxi> Backtrackhelp:  If the resolutions are not being detected automatically then it can be a problem with the driver, card/GPU, cable, monitor, or an xorg.conf file that is overriding the detected settings.
[23:27] <joltik> is it possible to go strait to installing ubuntu?
[23:27] <enron> what controls the thumbnailing of media in a window ?  i have stuff that doesn't get thumbnailed
[23:27] <joltik> instead of going to the live cd part?
[23:27] <ubuntu> joltik: you want to run ubiquity
[23:27] <discopatrick> is this the appropriate place to ask for help on iptables on ubuntu? specifically, reordering rules?
[23:27] <joltik> what is ubiquity?
[23:27] <ubuntu> joltik: ubiquity is the ubuntu installer.
[23:27] <jagginess> ubuntu, ubuntu_ < can you guys change your nicks? it can confuse people
[23:27] <Hemebond> Is there any way to get Gnome Shell to use the keyboard shortcuts defined in the keyboard settings?
[23:28] <joltik> I'm checking the wiki now
[23:28] <joltik> thx
[23:28] <jhansonxi> Backtrackhelp: Check /var/log/Xorg.#.log to see what X.org is detecting for the active display.
[23:28]  * james is the user formerly known as ubuntu
[23:28] <ubuntu_> I would except I am not experienced with IRC,  I'm here on a livecd trying to rescue my system
[23:28] <enron> just type:   /nick HelpMe_______
[23:28] <Steveo> Test
[23:29] <jrib> pw-toxic: sudo service lightdm restart  (if you are using lightdm, the default)
[23:29] <joltik> where can I download ubiquity?
[23:29] <songandsilence72> there, finally the nickserv likes me
[23:29] <OerHeks> ubuntu maybe this is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[23:29] <songandsilence72> joltik: ubiquity should be on the live cd
[23:29] <songandsilence72> try running it from a terminal.
[23:29] <Backtrackhelp> Thats in white
[23:29] <joltik> how?
[23:29] <pw-toxic> jrib, i upgraded from 10.4. so i used gnome .. what is lightdm?
[23:29] <songandsilence72> I need to run update-update grub in a chroot'd system, and /boot is mounted under a different partiton. What do I need to do?
[23:29] <Backtrackhelp> That archive is white
[23:29] <jagginess> btw, whoever was talking about updating grub, the correct command (grub2) is, update-grub2
[23:29] <jrib> pw-toxic: you mean 10.04?  You upgraded from 10.04 to what version?
[23:29] <Steveo> Okay, so I googled on how to mount a harddrive from a livecd but 2 pages into the search results I can't find the command strings to use.   Does anyone know or should I go somewhere else for help?
[23:29] <joltik> Right now I just turned on the computer and with the dvd in it and it started this
[23:30] <jrib> !mount | Steveo
[23:30] <songandsilence72> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[23:30] <OerHeks> songandsilence72, maybe this is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[23:30] <pw-toxic> jrib, from 10.4 to 10.10 (worked) and then to 11.4 (i guess)
[23:30] <jrib> Steveo: you can also just click on the device in nautilus...
[23:30] <songandsilence72> thx, oerheks
[23:30] <pw-toxic> jrib, i can see the login screen... how can i detect my desktop manager from the logi screen?
[23:30] <Steveo> jrib, I don't have nautilus, I'm on XUbuntu 9.10
[23:30] <Steveo> I don't see my hard drive listed there
[23:30] <joltik> how do I use ubiquity?
[23:30] <jagginess> pw-toxic, the gear icon lets you change it
[23:30] <jrib> pw-toxic: 11.04, ok.  In that version I think the default desktop manager was still gdm.  So you can do « sudo service gdm restert » if you want to restart X
[23:30] <sirriffsalot> Hey! Someone told me that Gnome runs multiple processes incase one crashes... is this true or did I misunderstand something? How is Gnome different from XFCE in terms of what goes on in the background?
[23:31] <musixuser_> necesito ayuda con JACK Control!
[23:31] <xangua> Steveo: then please upgrade to a supported version
[23:31] <jrib> Steveo: the gui may provide some similar feature, but ubottu gave you information on using mount
[23:31] <jrib> !es | musixuser_
[23:31] <jagginess> pw-toxic, you'd like gnome-classic?
[23:31] <jrib> Steveo: and yes, 9.10 is very old and no longer supported, you should upgrade to at least 10.04
[23:31] <musixuser_> ok!! I need help with Jack Control!! That's better? ::)
[23:32] <joltik> What do I do to skip the live cd and go to ubuiquity?
[23:32] <pw-toxic> jagginess, i just started gnome-classic and it worked. i will upgrade to 11.10 now from ubuntu classic and then to 12.4 LTS
[23:32] <jrib> musixuser_: not much.  Ask your real question please
[23:32] <trism> Hemebond: gnome shell in 12.04 uses gsettings for keybindings, but unity still uses gconf, so you can't set them with gnome-control-center yet, see bug 965921 (you can use dconf-editor to set them manually though)
[23:32] <Steveo> jrib, xangua,  I'm using Xubuntu 9.10 because it is a livecd I had in a desk drawer and my installed system Ubuntu 12.04 isn't working.  I can't upgrade, the livecd is all I have
[23:33] <Hemebond> trism: I tried dconf-editor but it won't let me add new shortcuts.
[23:33] <jrib> Steveo: that's fine.  Be aware it's no longer supported, so it's not a version you want to install and stick with at this point in time
[23:33] <Hemebond> trism: Only edit existing,.
[23:34] <Steveo> jrib,  I don't plan to install it.  I want to use it to copy my files off of my hard drive so I can do a clean install of something modern, but I can find how how mount the hard drive on google, that is why I am here.
[23:34] <jrib> Steveo: ubottu sent you the mount instructions earlier, have  you read them?
[23:35] <bbuilt1> When I install Oracle JDK and updat alternatives to select it as a default, the man page of java (and javac) is missing. But with the openjdk, the man page is there. Anybody help me, please.
[23:35] <Steveo> jrib, I didn't see it.   I also tried fdisk -l and could not see any drives listed
[23:36] <LinuxMonkey> Steveo: does blkid give you any drives listed
[23:36] <teratoma> where are the nautilus preferences in precise?
[23:36] <jrib> !mount > Steveo
[23:36] <xangua> teratoma: edit-preferences
[23:36] <spiritech> well it looks like i spoke to soon. i have found both config files for compiz in /usr/share
[23:36] <mariocki> Steveo: dont forget fdisk and blkid need to be run as root so you need to sudo fdisk -l etc
[23:39] <Steveo> okay, I am reading
[23:39] <musixuser__> I'm back..
[23:39] <musixuser__> I'm new with Linux, so I have no ideaa at all... This is my first problem:
[23:39] <teratoma> xangua: where is that?
[23:39] <musixuser__> Anybody reading me?
[23:39] <loculinux> hola
[23:39] <bbuilt1> I asked.
[23:39] <xangua> teratoma: on the menu
[23:39] <musixuser__> hola loculinux hablas español?
[23:40] <xangua> !es | musixuser_ loculinux
[23:40] <loculinux> si
[23:40] <LinuxMonkey> Steveo: to know if your hard disk was detected and know the logical name you can try: sudo lshw -C disk
[23:40] <spiritech> well it looks like the right files though i cant be sure.
[23:40] <musixuser__> y sabés algo de linx o estaás acá porque teneś problemas? jajaja
[23:40] <teratoma> i am not so good with this unity thing yet.  i click on the side bar... which menu?
[23:40] <musixuser__> HELP!!
[23:40] <teratoma> i see 'All Settings'
[23:41] <spiritech> does anyone know the best way to save the compiz settings so that they can be reloaded after a re-install??
[23:41] <AxD09> spiritech: the files in /usr/share are probably just the defaults
[23:42] <teratoma> xangua: you mean unity in precise, right ?
[23:42] <xangua> teratoma: open nautilus and go to edit-preferences menu
[23:42] <spiritech> there were two files. normal and extra profiles. though i think you are prob right that they are the defaults.
[23:42] <musixuser__> I have problems with Jack Control!.. Could anyone help me pleaseeee
[23:42] <mariocki> spiritech: should be in a folder in ~/.config/
[23:43] <H3Hlp> Wats the channel os backtrack
[23:43] <AxD09> This site is from 2008, so i have no idea how accurate it is, but it mentions compiz config locations. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-remove-compiz-fusion-including-config-files.html
[23:43] <H3Hlp> of
[23:43] <spiritech> i have checked the files there and they are not right.
[23:43] <H3Hlp> Where is the backtrack channel
[23:43] <H3Hlp> Shit, where is the backtrack channel?
[23:44] <IdleOne> !language | H3Hlp
[23:44] <IdleOne> !backtrack | H3Hlp
[23:44] <kingofswords> hello
[23:44] <H3Hlp> Sorry bro
[23:44] <kingofswords> y is ubuntu such a piece of junk?
[23:44] <musixuser__> I think I hate Linux! jajaja
[23:44] <melchi_> hi
[23:44] <bbuilt1> Can anyone see my question?
[23:44] <musixuser__> HELP MEEEE!!!
[23:45] <kingofswords> nothing it seems is fixable
[23:45] <xangua> AxD09: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html a lot recent
[23:45] <kantinito> my smuxi has exploded :(
[23:45] <AxD09> I assumes that want for me
[23:46] <AxD09> wasn't*
[23:46] <mariocki> spiritech: see this, it's a bit old but it may work. http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-compiz-config-on-ubuntu.html
[23:46] <spiritech> i have a config file in ~/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig   it only has two lines
[23:46] <spiritech> [gnome session]
[23:46] <spiritech> profile=
[23:47] <musixuser__> help! I need somebody!! HelP! Not just anybody! Help!! You know I need someone!! Help! When I was younger I used Windos 7, the I decided to change to Linux but now I wanna die!
[23:47] <spiritech> ok will have a look at the link.
[23:47] <`prixon> I'm doing a survey before I partition my drive. how much space does ubuntu filesystem need, and how much does the home folder need?
[23:47] <IdleOne> !polls | `prixon
[23:47] <IdleOne> `prixon: to answer your question 15GB for / is plenty /home is up to you
[23:48] <camacio> ciao
[23:48] <camacio> !list
[23:48] <Musix> HELP!
[23:49] <chu> IdleOne: :(
[23:49] <joltik> how do I get to ubiquity from the screen that says boot:
[23:49] <`prixon> if I use home just for apps and not as a media/data drive. how much will be sufficient?
[23:49] <OerHeks> `prixon, for /root at least 4 gb, /swap and /home as you please
[23:49] <Logan_> !ask | Musix
[23:49] <loculinux> ok
[23:49] <`prixon> when you say 15GB for /, does that include the swap, or swap is 2*RAM in addition?
[23:49] <bbuilt1> hello
[23:50] <IdleOne> `prixon: I have no way in the universe at guessing what apps you will be installing, that said you need a minimum of 1GB for /home all the way up to 1000TB
[23:50] <joltik> now I'm in a terminal looking screen
[23:50] <Musix> Logan_ Hi!
[23:50] <Logan_> Hi Musix.
[23:50] <Resistance> IdleOne:  under what circumstances would anyone need a 1kTB drive?
[23:50] <spiritech> marlocki thank you thats what i needed. i didnt realize that compiz had its own back up facility.
[23:50] <Musix> I'm new with Linux, and I'm trying Misux 2.0 cd live
[23:50] <IdleOne> Resistance: I wanted to make sure to cover all the bases
[23:51] <Resistance> IdleOne:  :P
[23:51] <Resistance> still;
[23:51] <Musix> I have problems with Jack control
[23:51] <bbuilt1> Resistance: Can you see me?
[23:51] <joltik> does anyone know?
[23:51] <IdleOne> Musix: this is #ubuntu, see if there is a #musix
[23:51] <Resistance> bbuilt1:  yes, but #test is used for testing things, including whether people can see you
[23:51] <Musix> when I try to start it, appears this:
[23:51] <bob___> hello
[23:51] <Resistance> bbuilt1:  or #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:51] <paul_> hi all does anyone know how to install a brother network printer
[23:51] <Musix> Could not open alsa sequencer as a client
[23:52] <bbuilt1> #test
[23:52] <Musix> there's not Musix  chat
[23:52] <Resistance> bbuilt1:  /join #test
[23:52] <Resistance> its a channel ;P
[23:52] <joltik> how do I do a strait to install?
[23:52] <Resistance> but we see you, bbuilt1
[23:52] <bob___> am updating from 11.10 to 12.04 lts using iso file but the selection to replace 11.10 with 12.04 will not allow selection - any help?
[23:52] <Musix> 23:51:40.062 Patchbay deactivated.
[23:52] <Musix> 23:51:40.067 Statistics reset.
[23:52] <Musix> 23:51:40.069 Could not open ALSA sequencer as a client. ALSA MIDI patchbay will be not available.
[23:52] <Musix> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No exist
[23:52] <FloodBot1> Musix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <Musix> sorry
[23:53] <xangua> bob___: are you using the Alternate iso¿
[23:53] <bob___> no
[23:53] <Musix> well.. thats my problem..
[23:53] <xangua> Musix this is strictly ubuntu support
[23:53] <spiritech> paul there are some brother drivers in the repository. maybe try one of those.
[23:53] <`prixon> when partitioning the drive. is there a way to avoid those small leftovers of the drive of 5mb 20mb and so?
[23:53] <IdleOne> paul_: the brother website also offers linux drivers and instructions.
[23:53] <joltik> how do I install this damn thing
[23:54] <joltik> I can't figure anything out
[23:54] <joltik> I put in the cd
[23:54] <joltik> dvd*
[23:54] <joltik> and it keeps getting to a certain point
[23:54] <OerHeks> `prixon, those left-overs are no leftovers, but cache-memory of the drive
[23:54] <joltik> and it doesn't do anything
[23:54] <bob___> how does one reply to a query from someone on this chat
[23:55] <bastidrazor> bob___: /msg person message here
[23:55] <OerHeks> `prixon, also a good way to check the cache of a drive
[23:55] <bob___> thank you
[23:55] <joltik> I'm going to leave xp on this computer if I can't do this
[23:55] <gravity_> Gravity
[23:56] <paul_>  spirit ok let me see I have 9320cw
[23:56] <`prixon> how come sometimes there are "leftovers" and sometimes there aren't?
[23:56] <joltik> well, I guess I'll just stay with XP
[23:56] <joltik> ubuntu sounds over rated anyway
[23:57] <OerHeks> `prixon, intelligent programs don't show cache as available hdd space.
[23:57] <todd_> I am writeing a bash script and $1 is a file name, but its is not escapeing spaces when I use $1 how do I get it to reescape the spaces?
[23:57] <paul_> idle it was working but spitting out paper ever 15 minute so I followed there website adn then i couldnt even get the computer to reconize it
[23:57] <jrib> todd_: #bash for that
[23:57] <IdleOne> `prixon: This channel is for Ubuntu specific support. Please stick to the topic.
[23:57] <todd_> #bash
[23:57] <todd_> ???
[23:58] <spiritech> are there any plans to have a gnome based release of ubuntu?
[23:58] <`prixon> Gparted = unintelligent?
[23:58] <paul_> let me try again thanks guys I figure that you guys might know of some problems
[23:58] <`prixon> oh
[23:58] <joltik> how do install ubuntu without loading the live ubuntu enviornment?
[23:58] <IdleOne> !alternate | joltik
[23:58] <xangua> spiritech: ubuntu uses gnome
[23:59] <`prixon> if I intend on creating a / filesystem partition and a home partition, do they both exist in an extended partition?
[23:59] <joltik> thank you
[23:59] <joltik> finally answers
[23:59] <spiritech> i mean as its primary desktop.
[23:59] <L3top> It was the first question you asked joltik.