=== Resistance is now known as EvilResistance [00:03] how do you set up extended display? [00:06] how do you set up extended display? [00:10] !repeat [00:10] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ === IdleOne is now known as Guest21295 === Guest21295 is now known as IdleOne === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance === len is now known as Guest50315 === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance === head_v is now known as head_victim [11:30] hey hey hey [11:44] hi [11:44] Has anyone else ever come across bug 880084 ? [11:44] Launchpad bug 880084 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Mobile Broadband must be enabled after every power on, suspend, hibernate, or signal loss" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880084 === CTtechguy_ is now known as CTTechguy === kanliot is now known as KANLIOT [14:22] hey all, great little distro you guys have here. [14:23] ya [14:25] is it a big deal to replace lxdm with slim ? [14:25] i doubt it [14:26] slim is already packaged [14:28] KANLIOT: will an apt-get install replace lxde with slim? nervous to try .. :) [14:29] i donno [14:29] try in a vm if you can [14:29] skrite: what's the worst that could happen? [14:30] besides have you tried 12.04? [14:30] if it goes *incredibly* wrong, you get to reinstall [14:30] big wow [14:31] KANLIOT: i have not tried 12.04, was going to do that when i get home from work. [14:31] gordonjcp: good point. [16:03] anyone using opera 11.62 on 64bit lubuntu [16:05] opera 11.62 freezuing all the time [16:17] my cpu is running in 0,8ghz mode right now and when it's using more power it switch to 1,6ghz. how can I make him all the time run on 1,6ghz? [16:24] depends somewhat on the CPU family [16:25] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_Frequency_Scaling <- helpful [16:39] thx gordonjcp [16:43] i've had a precise vm made from the 20120215 alpha and it's been running so good i just kept updating and updating. recently this became impossible to do. i get errors like this: http://pastebin.com/tEzySDkx any ideas why? === topher is now known as zenkhaos === bodhizazen is now known as bodhi_zazen [18:05] hy i just installed gimp 2.8 in Lubuntu 11.10 i i want icon in my Lxmenu [18:05] how to add this icon [18:05] in Menu->Graphic [19:02] is there a way to bind a keystroke to suspend? [19:02] why not [19:02] first we need to figure out which command sends the suspend [19:17] Is there any way to get the microphone working if you had your motherboard audio disabled when you installed Lubuntu? [19:18] johnny|, alsamixer? [19:18] bioterror, tried that [19:18] it's unmuted? [19:18] and you have lifted the levels up [19:18] Unfortunately its only seeing my NVIDIA HD Card and my Camera Mic. [19:19] Even though I enabled the Azalia card in the bios (it was disabled previously) [19:19] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards [19:19] 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia [19:19] HDA NVidia at 0xfe67c000 irq 19 [19:19] 1 [CameraB404271 ]: USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1 [19:19] OmniVision Technologies, Inc. USB Camera-B4.04.27.1 at usb-0000:00:12.2-1, high [19:20] I think it should be seeing a third one which should be the on board mic [19:20] not to ask a stupid question but what is the result of "arecord -l" johnny| ? [19:21] **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** [19:21] card 1: CameraB404271 [USB Camera-B4.04.27.1], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] [19:21] Subdevices: 1/1 [19:21] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [19:21] yes that's unfortunate [19:21] yeah [19:22] one sec [19:22] The reason I need the on board audio mic input to work is because I'm hooking my piano keyboard up through it. [19:24] what card is it? [19:25] http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=3811 [19:25] uh, fantastic [19:25] Hang on I'll find it [19:25] Its the motherboard audio [19:25] yes but not all motherboard audio is the same [19:26] try lspci [19:26] don't paste the output here [19:26] find the right line [19:26] I know I only did that before because pastebin is unnecessary for 4 lines [19:26] But this will be more than 4 lines [19:26] so yeah [19:27] http://pastebin.com/Tqw7j9wz [19:28] I believe the card is called Azalia or something [19:28] Least thats what it called it in the Bios when I enabled it [19:28] 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) I believe thats it [19:29] My guess is that this is what is controlling the on board microphone (obviously) [19:31] there's only one AMD chip in the ALSA drievr matrix http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-interwave [19:31] not sure if that's the right one [19:31] i get this error trying b oot up from USB [19:31] "error no configuration file found" [19:31] this link doesnt help, ny other suggestions [19:31] http://askubuntu.com/questions/128160/trying-to-boot-from-usb [19:32] interwave is nowhere to be found in ubuntu repos tho [19:33] oh [19:33] At one point it used to see it. I think thats because I had it enabled when I installed LUbuntu [19:33] This time it wasn't enabled in the bios [19:34] it is canonical certified http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:1002:4383-AUDIO/ [19:35] Should I try reinstalling LUbuntu? Problem is it will be a pain to reinstall. [19:35] if what i read is to be believe, you need snd-hda-intel [19:35] ahh [19:36] now where to find it? grr [19:36] what ver? precise? [19:37] yup [19:38] ah [19:38] modinfo snd-hda-intel is not null [19:38] which is to say you should already have the driver [19:38] modprobe snd-hda-intel [19:38] that SHOULD fix ya up [19:39] shows no output [19:39] oh [19:39] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ modprobe snd-hda-intel [19:39] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ [19:39] sudo of course [19:39] ahh ok [19:39] strange [19:39] Still no output [19:40] modprobe | grep snd-hda-intel [19:40] is it there? [19:41] That gives me the usage: modprobe message [19:41] sorry [19:41] modprobe -l | grep snd-hda-intel [19:42] kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko [19:42] there it's installed [19:42] now try arecord -l [19:42] yikes [19:42] card 1: CameraB404271 [USB Camera-B4.04.27.1], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] [19:42] Subdevices: 1/1 [19:42] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [19:43] Now its not even showing my NVIDIA [19:43] Oh wait [19:43] ^ look up [19:43] same as before [19:43] Nevermind the NVIDIA isn't a capture device [19:43] Yeah [19:44] lol derp sorry Yeah I need it to have two devices [19:44] for grins, what does aplay -l give you? [19:44] **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** [19:44] card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] [19:44] Subdevices: 1/1 [19:44] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [19:45] Ok yeah so thats all right but with capture it should be two instead of one [19:45] didn't you have two playback devices before? [19:45] you did [19:46] of course it was your camera [19:46] which you may not need [19:46] Yeah the Camera is only a Camera Mic [19:46] So yeah it should only be a capture device [19:47] So if it corrected that, I mean thats good to avoid conflicts I guess in any case [19:47] not really the issue [19:47] well this is strange because it should work [19:47] Yeah I know [19:47] if i were you i'd put the module into /etc/modules and restart and see what happens [19:48] i dont' normally recommend restarts (modprobe makes this unnecessary) but i'm baffled as to why it's not working [19:49] Hmm ok so in /etc/modules what am I putting in again? [19:49] I am in nano and all it says is lp and rtc [19:50] Am I putting in snd-hda-intel as a line? [19:50] yep [19:50] just that [19:50] last line [19:50] ok cool [19:51] ok gonna restart [19:51] brb [19:54] Tried it. Didn't work [19:54] fooey [19:55] try #ubuntustudio [19:55] Unless there is something in the xorg file negating it [19:56] seriously i think that's the best advice i can give you [19:56] perhaps one of them is even familiar with the particular soundcard [19:56] ok [19:56] thanx [19:56] i know a few folks use lubuntu proper, too [19:56] at the very least they have an arguably better understandng of sound on *buntus in general [19:57] also #opensourcemusicians is very active and that may be something to consider too [19:57] sorry i couldn't be of more help [19:57] Its ok [19:57] johnny|: what's up? [19:59] gordonjcp, I'm trying to get the microphone input on my On Board Motherboard to work. [19:59] I went through some steps with wxl but we're both stumped as to what to do [19:59] okay [19:59] is sound basically working? [20:00] and are you using pulseaudio, or alsa directly? [20:01] messing with me [20:01] Yes sound is working and my Camera Mic works as a Mic. But I need the mic input on the motherboard working because my piano keyboard is hooked up to it. In essence if possible, I need two capture devices working [20:01] he's doing alsa from what i can gather [20:01] lspci finds the card [20:01] from what i can gather snd-hda-intel is the right drievr [20:01] which was not loaded because he had switched it off during install [20:01] okay, two capture devices simultaneously is a world of pain [20:02] of course the other capture is a usb camera [20:02] can you disconnect that, johnny| ? [20:02] ok [20:02] done [20:02] well, don't worry about that for now, what does aplay -l have to say? [20:02] he added the driver to /etc/modules and rebooted and had no better luck than just modprobing [20:02] tbh it should just pick up the card automatically [20:02] Now it says there are no capture hardware devices [20:03] the thing to watch is that the card order is the same every time, which takes a bit of clever modprobeing [20:03] o_O [20:03] Now that I disconnected the camera [20:03] no surprise as the only one was the camera, and it's now disconnected [20:03] pastebin the output of "arecord -l" [20:03] i think that's what he just gave you [20:03] No need for pastebin lol its one line [20:03] arecord -l [20:03] **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** [20:04] and aplay -l gives something doesn't it? the nvidia? [20:04] yes [20:04] exactly [20:04] weird [20:04] card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0 [20:05] okay, so that's an HDMI output [20:05] right [20:05] which won't capture [20:05] yup [20:05] Though the Azalia I dunno should? [20:05] ie. that's not your soundcard [20:05] 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) [20:05] that's from lspci [20:05] Theres two soundcards [20:05] that's the one we want to get working [20:05] The on board and the NVIDIA [20:05] Unless the NVIDIA negated it when it went in [20:06] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1790878 [20:06] ^ is that of any help? [20:07] hmm [20:07] Ok to pastebin to show you the command it said to run [20:08] First remove that model=3stack entry from alsa-base.conf [20:08] even if pulse had grabbed it, it should show up [20:08] you're not running pulse are you? [20:08] Yes actually I am..... [20:08] Though that even picks everything up as well [20:08] Cept for the one card [20:08] I could uninstall pulseaudio [20:09] brb, sorting something serious [20:09] But I don't think it would help alsamixer see the device in question [20:09] ok [20:09] wxl I'll try what you said [20:09] it seems the other part of the recommendation is [20:09] wget http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh -O alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh [20:10] http://pastebin.com/tkXCaTKR [20:10] Thats another command I tried [20:11] Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=332796566f914774e233ed6645f3a1d52b851d49 [20:11] Please inform the person helping you. [20:11] have you tried asking in #alsa? [20:12] Not yet. I could now though. [20:13] seems that snd-hda-intel is having trouble polling [20:14] oh here you go [20:14] johnny|: this is probably what you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [20:16] Ahh so this has to go into alsa-base.conf? [20:16] options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL [20:16] yes but you should know what model is [20:16] else [20:16] use model=auto [20:16] oh wait [20:16] not alsa-base.conf [20:16] /etc/modules [20:17] ooh ok [20:17] Yeah I didn't use the options command [20:17] oh wait wait [20:17] hold on [20:17] that might confuse things [20:17] yeah rm the line from /etc/modules [20:17] ok [20:17] and then add it to the end of /etc/modules.d/alsa-base.conf [20:17] that way there's no conflicts [20:17] either way could work potentially [20:18] derp [20:18] /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf [20:18] Oh wow its already there [20:19] what is cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec [20:19] #hdmi [20:19] options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=0x102 [20:19] Odd though [20:19] Because thats what enables my NVIDIA card to work [20:20] ^ [20:21] Ooh I got it! [20:21] The Azalia and NVIDIA both use the same driver through Ubuntu. [20:21] Ick [20:21] there you go [20:22] But now this means somehow either the Azalia or the NVIDIA would have to manually use another sound driver that would work. [20:22] i would suspect then (not being a user of two sound cards) that you could modprobe snd-hda-intel twice with the right model= and you'd be set [20:22] gordonjcp: ^ think we got down to the bottom of it if you're familiar with using two simulataneous cards-- with the same driver [20:23] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec [20:23] ^ what does that produce johnny| ? [20:23] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec [20:23] Codec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP [20:23] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ [20:23] oh gr [20:23] i wonder if this will work at all [20:23] probably not [20:24] I may be better off getting the mic input on the connector to plug into USB [20:24] It would use two connectors which is irritating but it may have a better chance of working I would think [20:26] Then again I wouldn't know for sure without investing the money to do it. [20:26] wxl: ah, yeah, that sounds familiar [20:26] cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec [20:26] that might do it [20:26] maybe. [20:27] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec [20:27] cat: /proc/asound/card1/codec*: No such file or directory [20:27] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ [20:27] fooey [20:27] Is it possible to change the driver for my NVIDIA to see if any others will work besides hda-snd-intel? [20:28] there may be a nvidia one [20:28] probably have to download and compile yourself [20:28] Yeah thats what I was thinking [20:28] Which in theory would free up the Azalia driver [20:28] To work [20:29] you could try commenting out that line [20:29] (don't delete in case you want to return it to where it was) [20:29] and then add "options hda-snd-intel model=auto" [20:29] then sudo alsa force-reload [20:29] ok [20:29] it may still default to the nvidia but it's worth a shot [20:30] ok now lets see [20:31] Yeah it did [20:31] Hmm let me see something [20:32] Hmm thats odd [20:33] I commented out the line that I used initially to get the sound to work with the NVIDIA. [20:33] and sound still works [20:33] you did the restart? [20:33] Not yet. Let me try that. [20:33] er reload [20:33] I did [20:33] I reloaded [20:33] and still got sound [20:33] strange indeed [20:33] Its odd [20:33] #alsa, i guess [20:34] Yeah I told them [20:34] Only other thing I could think is to reinstall pulseaudio [20:34] Or [20:34] uninstall it and try aplay with a file [20:34] kill pulse for now [20:34] ok [20:34] i would think that's an intelligent idea [20:35] if you have a nonfuctional system in one server, it will probably carry over to the other ;) [20:36] Ok used task manager to kill pulseaudio [20:36] Now lets see [20:36] I will use aplay to try to play an ogg file [20:36] If it works then I know the NVIDIA card is still going [20:37] ok yeah no sound [20:37] So now I could look into aplay -l [20:38] it may be that commented out line [20:38] Its listed [20:38] But [20:38] Wow [20:38] yuck [20:38] Let me get the pastebin of this [20:38] This doesn't look good [20:40] http://pastebin.com/L5901tbz [20:40] I mean its there but the aplay output is messy [20:40] THAT'S GOOD! [20:40] hd output usually involves many channels [20:40] Ahh but then how come I'm not getting any audio playing? [20:41] and you have capture devices now [20:41] Yeah [20:41] the right ones [20:41] But I guess I need to use a different line than that one I had [20:41] To get the NVIDIA card to play sound [20:41] well it should play out the other one now, right? [20:42] Lets see if I can record [20:42] If I can I guess it means I can find another way to work with it [20:42] Other than the command I did [20:42] Ugh PC froze [20:43] Let me restart [20:52] Yeah the other devices show up however, I get no audio now through the NVIDIA card [20:53] Mostly because it shows 4 spdifs now [20:54] aplay shows it is playing but there is no sound [20:56] aha, now you need to play with alsamixer [20:56] and also fiddle about to ensure it's hitting the right set of channels [20:56] The probe x 102 made the NVIDIA card work but disabled everything else [20:58] The issue is that card 1 which is the NVIDIA is listed as device 3, device 7, device, 8 and device 9 when it should only be listed as device 7 [20:59] hey [20:59] do this now: [20:59] k [20:59] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec [20:59] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec [20:59] Codec: Realtek ALC892 [20:59] AH HA [20:59] http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsCheck.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#High%20Definition%20Audio%20Codecs [20:59] that's what the ubuntu wiki recommends [21:00] download from realtek itself [21:00] that's for your motherboard [21:00] ahh this way the motherboard driver doesn't interfere with the NVIDIA card [21:00] I see thats why the NVIDIA card sound isn't working [21:09] ok I'll restart now that it install [21:09] installed === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance [21:09] and see if sound works on the NVIDIA [21:12] Under SEH Team [21:14] Elchzard: before I stab the freenode ops about your posting that same phrase in every other channel i've seen you in, mind *not* posting that everywhere? [21:21] ok problem [21:21] ? [21:21] When I do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737 my NVIDIA card gets sound but it gets rid of any other soundcards in the system [21:22] However [21:22] If I don't do that then the NVIDIA card doesn't play any sound [21:22] But all devices show up [21:23] This is even with the realtek driver installed [21:23] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep CodecCodec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP [21:23] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ [21:24] We go back to there only being a Card 0 and no Card 1 [21:24] hm [21:24] so with the realtek installed what is in alsa-base.conf and/or /etc/modules now? [21:26] What is snd-pcsp? [21:26] # Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard [21:26] options snd-pcsp index=-2 [21:26] assumedly the realtek [21:26] I found that in alsa-base [21:26] and that may actually be whats causing the issue but I don't know [21:27] nope that's the pc speaker [21:27] pc sp(eaker) [21:27] ahh [21:27] there's no other line? [21:27] cuz how else can the driver be installed?? [21:28] I dunno it said it had installed. Let me show you the alsa-base.conf output in pastebin [21:28] Maybe there is something I'm missing [21:29] http://pastebin.com/4LxJJhhi [21:29] hello, just installed lubuntu 12.04 on alix 3c3 (pc engines), all was gone perfect, but at reboot I can only see the centered lubuntu logo, so I rebooted pressing shift, so with root access installed ssh-server and was gone, installed webmin and is ok, still connected now to my alix via webmin, but on screen still is present only lubuntu logo and there is no mouse pointer, can someone help me? [21:29] uh [21:29] it's like got nothing else in it [21:30] what's in /etc/modules? [21:30] if someone want to try to connect via webmin I can give an access [21:30] Same thing as before lp and rtc [21:30] Yet when I did the install script on the realtek [21:30] It said it installed [21:30] can you pastebin that script? [21:31] installing it again [21:31] and I'll show you [21:31] yeah [21:32] no help on alix? (amd geode) [21:33] Seems to be fine and compiling [21:34] i don't want to see the output of the script but the script itself [21:34] ok [21:35] http://pastebin.com/uiZH6ER9 [21:36] :-( [21:36] this remove folder business is the last thing you see? [21:37] yup [21:37] give me alsa-driver-1.0.25/MAKEFILE [21:38] http://pastebin.com/gs5tA3Y3 [21:40] This command BTW seems to be getting the NVIDIA sound working but making the other sound card not show up. I'm not exactly sure why however [21:40] options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=0x102 [21:40] Maybe [21:40] Instead of it being 0x102 [21:40] It should be 1x102 [21:40] Thats all I can think considering the NVIDIA card should probably be card 1 [21:40] Hmm I'll try it [21:41] and restart [21:42] hello, just installed lubuntu 12.04 on alix 3c3 (pc engines), all was gone perfect, but at reboot I can only see the centered lubuntu logo, so I rebooted pressing shift, so with root access installed ssh-server and was gone, installed webmin and is ok, still connected now to my alix via webmin, but on screen still is present only lubuntu logo and there is no mouse pointer, can someone help me? [21:46] tnx for help! [21:51] sudo start lightdm ? [21:52] I should check if someone is still in channel <_<" [21:54] How do I find out what the realtek is using? I know the NVIDIA is using snd-hda-intel [21:54] Because I think I may have the solution [21:55] # Keep snd-realtek-whatever it is from being loaded as first soundcard [21:55] options snd-realtek-whatever it is index=-2 [21:56] I think thats what I need [21:56] Because both soundcards can't be loaded as first [21:56] there you go [21:56] and I think both are trying to be [21:56] now which is snd-realtek-whatever? :) [21:56] i'm not finding it easy [21:56] Right lol [21:56] I know [21:56] The only other solution is to load the NVIDIA as soundcard 1 [21:57] and hope it works that way [21:57] that might work [21:57] Yeah hmm I'll give it a go [21:57] it it doesn't work pastebin me the configure script johnny| [21:58] ok sure [21:58] ok here goes nothing [22:08] Yeah it has to do with the particular command [22:08] Either way using a probemask to get the audio working will somehow get rid of the other soundcard [22:08] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec [22:08] cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec*: No such file or directory [22:08] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec [22:08] Codec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP [22:11] is that Lubuntu software center at default repository yet? [22:11] Here is the issue [22:11] Without the probemask command you get this [22:12] SAKKED: Yep. [22:12] http://pastebin.com/LcDPGGK0 [22:12] !info lubuntu-software-center [22:12] lubuntu-software-center (source: lubuntu-software-center): Utility for browsing, installing, removing applications on Lubuntu. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.5~bzr135-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 87 kB, installed size 687 kB [22:12] Codec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP appears 4 times [22:12] and it shouldn't [22:13] Using the probemask command in a file makes it appear once but also gets rid of the first soundcard. [22:13] So there has to be another way to get the NVIDIA codec to stop cloning itself [22:14] Unit193: few months ago i had to install that from some other ppa [22:15] Yes, but that's because you were on 11.10, now it's in 12.04 [22:15] ok [22:18] No output on this and this is what it says has to use the NVIDIA card [22:18] Not snd-hda-intel [22:18] sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi [22:18] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi [22:18] johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ [22:24] Well I established it works [22:24] Though now to go through these steps [22:24] I'm following directions from NVIDIA instead of that forum post === veemon is now known as Art [22:28] What if sound plays in alsa mixer as plughw but not hw? === bodhizazen is now known as bodhi_zazen [23:38] ok got it to recognize the two soundcards and also play audio through the NVIDIA. Now I'm having trouble getting it to record. [23:38] and it gives me a bunch of options [23:39] and none worked