[00:34] <spaceneedle> The Nvidia driver(295.40) crashed my desktop computer. I install Kubuntu  and extremely slow. Hope they fix it. Had to install Xubuntu--which is somewhat slow too.
[10:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:19] <BluesKaj> anything in the repos yet worth trying ... not going to sed the sourceslist this time ... it was a poor install last night so i reverted
[15:52] <Bluefoxicy> heh prefetch
[15:53] <Bluefoxicy> dynamic profiling was never done with readahead because nobody figured out to just predict one access for readahead and ignore it (the profiling mechanism would also see readahead's access, so it made a muddled mess)
[16:49] <Sidewinder> BluesKaj, If you weren't already aware... : http://video.ubuntu.com/live/
[18:51] <aboSamoor> is maas ready for usage? I am reading the documenation and I am not sure what does maas enlist mean?
[18:59] <mongo> so there is no way to get upstart to work with an external pid file?
[18:59] <ikonia> mongo: external ?
[19:00] <mongo> ikonia: the "only track two pids deap" design of upstart is painful, I have a script that does a lot of work to bring up several services, I can't leave it as a legacy init script because legacy init is called too late
[19:01] <mongo> so I can do a "task" but then restart doesn't work
[19:01] <genii-around> ikonia: I think something like if you use /etc/init.d/old-script   then it has a pid which upstart doesn't know about, is there some way to now tell it use that pid manually
[19:01] <ikonia> ahh, in that case "no"
[19:02] <mongo> I hope some work goes into upstart it is limiting :)
[19:03] <mongo> I guess I could call the init script as a task from an earlier emit
[19:03] <mongo> to avoid the braindead failsafe 120second wait that happens if your networking is brought up in legacy init
[19:06] <penguin42> mongo: I think there might be an upstart channel, there is certainly a mailing list for it - might be worth showing your example on there and asking for suggestions
[19:06] <trism> mongo: possibly related blueprint for q: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-upstart-overcome-ptrace-limitations
[19:07] <mongo> penguin42: upstart has said it will not be fixed on the email list
[19:07] <mongo> so i'm trying to make openvswitch upstart scripts
[19:09] <mongo> e.g. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/upstart-devel/2012-April/001873.html <-- same one, i'll look for an upstart channel though thanks
[22:00] <BluesKaj> how are you guys upgrading to 12.10 , release is obviously not in any repos I can access
[22:02] <jtaylor> change the sources.list probably
[22:07] <BluesKaj> jtaylor, not gonna do that ... too many unresolved dependencied and broken packages ...tried that yesterday
[22:07] <jtaylor> big surprise
[22:08] <BluesKaj> yeah , I just thought that somebody had a set of basic packages in a ppa or some such
[22:09] <BluesKaj> ok , ...bbl