| === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance | ||
| s1 | Salutation. | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| EvilResistance | greetings | 00:34 |
| EvilResistance | how's things :p | 00:34 |
| wylde | blargh.... | 00:34 |
| EvilResistance | heh | 00:34 |
| s1 | Pretty good here :) | 00:36 |
| wylde | trying to find homes for some of the bugs with no package assignments. o.O Ther's some ridiculous stuff in here. | 00:36 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: link me to an example | 00:37 |
| EvilResistance | or two | 00:37 |
| * EvilResistance may try and find where they belong | 00:37 | |
| wylde | alrighty, moment | 00:37 |
| s1 | i have one , which i filed myself .. | 00:37 |
| s1 | !bug #995185 | 00:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 995185 in gnome-settings-daemon "Multimedia keys are disabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995185 | 00:37 |
| EvilResistance | s1: no need for using !bug | 00:37 |
| s1 | Okay. | 00:38 |
| wylde | bug #994827 .... that one I don't think is a bug really, but I have no idea what to do with it. | 00:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 994827 in ubuntu "ubuntu-bug gives up too easily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994827 | 00:38 |
| EvilResistance | s1: are you sure this is a bug, or just a request for support? | 00:38 |
| s1 | I think i got confused somewhere .. | 00:39 |
| wylde | oooh, here's one for you bug #993684 | 00:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 993684 in ubuntu "I'm trying to "update" ubuntu, I want to prove if my losten grub appears" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993684 | 00:39 |
| s1 | or assigned against the wrong package ! | 00:39 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: that one seems like it should be invalid | 00:40 |
| EvilResistance | s1: are you asking for support, or filing that there is a bug in the program? | 00:41 |
| EvilResistance | if you're asking for support, a bug won't help you | 00:41 |
| EvilResistance | if you're showing that a bug exists in the program, then it might | 00:41 |
| s1 | EvilResistance: I really don't know. | 00:42 |
| s1 | I just found this trubleshooting steps .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting | 00:43 |
| EvilResistance | s1: i read your "bug report" and its not a bug report in this instanfce | 00:43 |
| EvilResistance | i've marked it as invalid | 00:43 |
| EvilResistance | and posted a comment pointing you towards where you could get support | 00:43 |
| s1 | EvilResistance: Thank you. | 00:44 |
| EvilResistance | (at least that's my opinion, if another bug squad member thinks otherwise, they're free to change it) | 00:44 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: bug 993684 might be a not-a-bug instance, but its hard to tell | 00:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 993684 in ubuntu "I'm trying to "update" ubuntu, I want to prove if my losten grub appears" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993684 | 00:45 |
| wylde | now, this one was never assigned to a package, although a quick scan of the comments sound like it was resolved ( should have been a support request I think). | 00:45 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: might post to the bug squad mailing list if you want :/ | 00:45 |
| wylde | EvilResistance: yeah, I set it to invalid, if the reporter feels the need to challenge that then I'm good wih it, might get more info out of him anyway. | 00:46 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: that's what i'd do :P | 00:46 |
| wylde | lol | 00:47 |
| wylde | I'm just being a little over cautious, my first day trying to triage I managed to get spanked twice >.< | 00:47 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: :P | 00:47 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: i'm relatively new too, bnut i recommend you follow the triage guide like its law | 00:48 |
| EvilResistance | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage in case you havent got the link | 00:48 |
| EvilResistance | i always keep that link up while i'm working on bugs :P | 00:48 |
| wylde | EvilResistance: yep, I have it. There's just some of these reports you just can't compare to it. You know? | 00:48 |
| EvilResistance | and when i'm unsure about whether it needs triaging i come here, ask bugsquad members' opinions, and poke bugcontrol members here when its worth it | 00:48 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: mhm | 00:48 |
| * EvilResistance had one of those a few days ago | 00:49 | |
| EvilResistance | (and so far, the ones i've pointed out for triaging have been valid for triaging) | 00:50 |
| wylde | EvilResistance: last week or the week before I had a reporter trying to add me their google+ lol | 00:50 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: and this is why i dont have google+ or public facebooks :P | 00:51 |
| wylde | EvilResistance: I don't use it, I do use 1 of my gmail addresses for here though. | 00:51 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 00:51 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: that ubuntu-bug one goes against apport i think | 00:54 |
| EvilResistance | apt-file shows ubuntu-bug as part of apport | 00:54 |
| wylde | oh this one, bug #992906 I ran across while looking for minor document bugs to fix. I moved it Unity. | 00:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 992906 in unity "Log out, power off icon(applet) not present on desk top" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992906 | 00:54 |
| EvilResistance | actually i'm not sure now | 00:54 |
| wylde | yeah I think it is. | 00:54 |
| * EvilResistance shurgs | 00:55 | |
| EvilResistance | shrugs* | 00:55 |
| wylde | yeah I'll go with that, it's better than no package assignment | 00:56 |
| EvilResistance | dont bother yet | 00:56 |
| * EvilResistance is checking with someone | 00:56 | |
| wylde | ok | 00:56 |
| wylde | it may even be an "opinion" | 00:56 |
| * EvilResistance is checking with the MOTUs for which package its against | 00:56 | |
| EvilResistance | but it should be OPinjion | 00:56 |
| EvilResistance | i'll poke a bugcontrol person in a minute | 00:57 |
| wylde | lol alrighty | 00:57 |
| EvilResistance | ah ubuntu-bug is in apport | 00:58 |
| EvilResistance | which bug was that one again? | 00:58 |
| EvilResistance | that one about ubuntu-bug | 00:58 |
| wylde | sec | 00:58 |
| EvilResistance | was it this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/994827 | 00:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 994827 in ubuntu "ubuntu-bug gives up too easily" [Undecided,New] | 00:58 |
| wylde | yep | 00:59 |
| wylde | brb needs me MOAR COFFEE! ...and to get out of this chair for a minute >.> | 01:00 |
| EvilResistance | its set to 'opinion', but its open to be changed, if its not an opinion-type :P | 01:00 |
| Daekdroom | That bug might indeed be a bug. I think it's the wording that sucks. | 01:00 |
| EvilResistance | Daekdroom: its against apport, that much I know | 01:01 |
| EvilResistance | but that wording suggests opinion, not bug | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | if it *is* a bug, details need to be added | 01:02 |
| * EvilResistance set it to Opinion, but believes it may be a bug, ignoring the wording | 01:02 | |
| EvilResistance | they don't specify which version of Ubuntu they're on, so if it was fixed later, we'll never know | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | feel free to change it as you see fit, though :) | 01:03 |
| * EvilResistance values constructive criticism as it is needed | 01:03 | |
| === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance | ||
| Resistance | oh, fooey. | 01:03 |
| Resistance | stupid ZNC changing my nick randomly >.> | 01:03 |
| * Resistance reminds himself to fix his autochange nicks script | 01:03 | |
| Resistance | its supposed to go once every 6 hours, not every hour :/ | 01:04 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: if you can suggest what the bug *should* say, we could invalidate bug 994827 and file a more technical bug, or recommend to the OP they do that | 01:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 994827 in ubuntu "ubuntu-bug gives up too easily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994827 | 01:07 |
| Resistance | (OP = Original Poster) | 01:07 |
| wylde | lol alrighty | 01:27 |
| wylde | It does seem odd that it would even have an "other" option if it's going to demand a package be specified anyway. The "other" option should be removed, but only the dev can say if that's intended behavior or not :P | 01:29 |
| Resistance | other should return that it may not be a bug | 01:30 |
| wylde | ahhh true that. Possibly suggest a support channel or ubuntu-brainstorm | 01:30 |
| Resistance | mhm | 01:30 |
| wylde | uhhhh Bug #995697 <----- support question? Someone should also point out WEP even with 128bit "encryption" is like locking your front door with scotch tape >.< | 01:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 995697 in ubuntu "WEP security with passphrase broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995697 | 01:34 |
| Resistance | wylde: i'll propose that possible change to apport, but that'd be a feature request bug, so it wouldnt necessarily need a brainstorm topic (although this needed it: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/29656/ ) | 01:34 |
| Resistance | whats this one now? | 01:34 |
| wylde | wireless wep issue | 01:34 |
| Daekdroom | wylde, why not warn people to prefer whatever is safer over WEP? | 01:35 |
| wylde | wpa-supplicant I suppose. | 01:35 |
| Daekdroom | I should dig into that a bit and file a wishlist on Launchpad :P | 01:35 |
| wylde | Daekdroom: yep, what I was getting at. :) | 01:35 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: that's a support request, but not a bug report, really | 01:36 |
| Daekdroom | Resistance, the bug mentioned above? | 01:36 |
| Daekdroom | Or suggesting that the network applet warn people to use some sort of encryption over others? | 01:37 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: IMO, yes, there *is* a way to fix WEP in 12.04, but its not a bug with any question | 01:37 |
| Resistance | the bug | 01:37 |
| Resistance | not the feature request | 01:37 |
| Resistance | i agree with the feature request | 01:37 |
| Resistance | the bug that was reported is a support request, not a bug report | 01:37 |
| Daekdroom | Indeed it is | 01:37 |
| wylde | indeed it is a support request? | 01:38 |
| Resistance | i marked it as invalid as such, since it's not a bug, but i would agree with filing a wishlist request on that proposed feature | 01:38 |
| Resistance | wylde: yeah, i marked it as such | 01:38 |
| wylde | alrighty :) | 01:38 |
| Resistance | (the feature Daekdroom stated) | 01:38 |
| Resistance | it'd be instantly triageable :P | 01:38 |
| wylde | lol | 01:39 |
| wylde | I honestly think adding some awareness to wireless security options would be a good thing. | 01:40 |
| Resistance | i agree | 01:40 |
| Resistance | if Daekdroom or you files the feature request, i'll support it :P | 01:40 |
| Resistance | heck, I could file that feature request | 01:40 |
| Resistance | question though: | 01:41 |
| Resistance | which package gets the feature request assignied ot it? | 01:41 |
| Resistance | network manager? | 01:41 |
| Resistance | wicd? | 01:41 |
| Resistance | :P | 01:41 |
| Daekdroom | I'm not very familiar with the different types of encryption, so I don't think I'm the best to file it. | 01:41 |
| wylde | oooo nice idea Resistance, make make a squashfs file and keep the backup as a mountable/exportable FS :) | 01:41 |
| wylde | maybe make* | 01:41 |
| Resistance | wylde: go register on brainstorm, post your ideas/solution to it | 01:41 |
| Resistance | i strongly support additional solutions :) | 01:41 |
| Daekdroom | I think it should be the package that contains the indicator. | 01:42 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: they both have indicators for wifi networking | 01:42 |
| * Resistance has used both | 01:42 | |
| Resistance | i also dont know what's on each derivative | 01:42 |
| Resistance | i could find out, but i'm slightly lazy :P | 01:42 |
| wylde | I'm most familiar with network manager, anyone could find out. We're all just a little lazy :P | 01:43 |
| wylde | or "busy"? | 01:43 |
| Resistance | i know network manager, i've filed bugs against it before :P | 01:43 |
| Daekdroom | nm-connection-editor process is where it is.... What package does that belong to? | 01:43 |
| * Resistance is both lazyish and busyish | 01:43 | |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: i'll apt-file it | 01:43 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: network-manager-gnome | 01:44 |
| Resistance | afaict at least | 01:44 |
| Resistance | but that's not the source package | 01:44 |
| Resistance | at least not afaict | 01:45 |
| Resistance | (in natty) | 01:45 |
| Resistance | network-manager-applet (in precise) | 01:46 |
| Resistance | i think | 01:46 |
| Resistance | that's the source package for network-manager-gnome | 01:46 |
| Resistance | well apt-file checks against binaries... | 01:49 |
| Resistance | this is why i keep packages.ubuntu.com around :P | 01:49 |
| wylde | :) | 01:49 |
| Daekdroom | It is the source package indeed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/ | 01:49 |
| wylde | I use apt-file mostly for fixing compile dependencies | 01:50 |
| Resistance | Daekdroom: apt-file to find the binary, packages.ubuntu.com/[release]/[package] to find the source | 01:50 |
| Resistance | :po | 01:50 |
| Resistance | :P * | 01:50 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Doesnt apt-file have a "showsrc" ? On android right now so cant check. | 01:51 |
| Resistance | nope | 01:51 |
| Resistance | note i'm checking in natty still, should probably use precise | 01:52 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Ahhh. Itd be in apt-cache then | 01:52 |
| Resistance | yep | 01:52 |
| === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance | ||
| steemed | Hi | 03:23 |
| EvilResistance | 'ello | 03:25 |
| steemed | Suffering from a bit of an anxiety attack, ick. Happens for no reason and I get all tensed up | 03:26 |
| EvilResistance | might need to get that checked. | 03:26 |
| steemed | Yeah, it's probably either what I grew up with and caused the depression or hypothyroidism | 03:27 |
| steemed | I'm self-diagnosing with hypothyroid, but a lot of the symptoms match but tests don't show that | 03:27 |
| EvilResistance | as i said, best get that checked. | 03:27 |
| steemed | yep | 03:28 |
| wylde | I actually got to confirm a bug I though was in error o.O | 03:32 |
| wylde | thought* | 03:32 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: which bug | 03:33 |
| steemed | nice | 03:33 |
| wylde | Bug #994189 | 03:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 994189 in gnome-terminal "killall incorrect tab completion" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994189 | 03:33 |
| wylde | tab completion really is misbehaving | 03:33 |
| EvilResistance | for certain programs | 03:34 |
| EvilResistance | works fine in zsh :P | 03:34 |
| wylde | EvilResistance: yeah, but even if it's some programs, it's a bug :) | 03:34 |
| EvilResistance | and it may even just be in bash | 03:34 |
| EvilResistance | did you confirm in zsh or some other shell? | 03:34 |
| wylde | hmmm true | 03:34 |
| EvilResistance | (just to be sure) | 03:34 |
| wylde | I'll do that | 03:34 |
| EvilResistance | because if the same issue happens with zsh, then its gnome-terminal, but if it happens in bash and not zsh, then... well... | 03:35 |
| EvilResistance | it could just be bash (so test in a tty) | 03:35 |
| EvilResistance | and if its reproducable in the TTY in bash and/or zsh, then it could be bash and/or zsh | 03:36 |
| EvilResistance | or the tab-completion package or whatever it is | 03:36 |
| wylde | same behaviour in tty | 03:36 |
| * EvilResistance is a believer in thorough testing when it comes to a terminal interface to make sure the bug isnt in the shell | 03:36 | |
| EvilResistance | then the issue could be tab completion in bash | 03:36 |
| EvilResistance | or whatever shell | 03:37 |
| wylde | yeah | 03:37 |
| EvilResistance | do me a favor and load up some other shell, say zsh, and make sure tabcompletion is enablecd | 03:37 |
| EvilResistance | then test again | 03:37 |
| EvilResistance | if it happens in all shells, then it'll be a global tab-completion bug | 03:38 |
| EvilResistance | rather than just gnome-termina; | 03:38 |
| EvilResistance | gnome-terminal | 03:38 |
| wylde | hrmmmm | 03:38 |
| EvilResistance | if it doesn't happen in zsh or something in gnome-terminal and TTY, then it could just be bash tab completion | 03:38 |
| wylde | same in xterm | 03:39 |
| EvilResistance | in bash? | 03:40 |
| wylde | bah then it should be against gnome-terminal .... | 03:40 |
| wylde | yeah | 03:40 |
| EvilResistance | (and i didnt mean a different terminal emulator) | 03:40 |
| EvilResistance | (i meant an entirely different shell, i.e. not bash | 03:40 |
| wylde | aye | 03:41 |
| wylde | bahaha sh is just funny | 03:42 |
| EvilResistance | i dont call 'sh' a valid shell xD | 03:42 |
| wylde | lol well I'm not getting any real results with zsh | 03:43 |
| EvilResistance | real results being... | 03:44 |
| EvilResistance | not able to reproduce? | 03:45 |
| EvilResistance | (did you do theh config thing and enable tab-complete) | 03:45 |
| wylde | you mean the initial thing that pops up asking me to hit a key? | 03:45 |
| wylde | Populate your ~/.zshrc with the configuration recommended | 03:46 |
| wylde | by the system administrator and exit (you will need to edit | 03:46 |
| wylde | the file by hand, if so desired). | 03:46 |
| wylde | is the option i went with | 03:46 |
| EvilResistance | mmm, see i customized it | 03:46 |
| EvilResistance | does tab completion work on your system without additional configuring? | 03:47 |
| wylde | yeah I haven't, I just installed it and went with the default. | 03:47 |
| wylde | to a point | 03:47 |
| EvilResistance | did you test tab completion on something else with that? | 03:47 |
| wylde | not with killall plug | 03:47 |
| EvilResistance | with anything else | 03:47 |
| EvilResistance | (and if it works on other things, try killall plug[tab] ) | 03:47 |
| wylde | Completing `process' or `corrections' | 03:48 |
| EvilResistance | just use the default config | 03:48 |
| EvilResistance | dont bother customizing | 03:48 |
| wylde | yeah, zsh is no help heh | 03:49 |
| EvilResistance | so the issue occurs there too? | 03:49 |
| wylde | I can't get the tab completion to work | 03:49 |
| wylde | no result there | 03:49 |
| EvilResistance | hmm | 03:49 |
| EvilResistance | hang on a sec | 03:50 |
| EvilResistance | this is 12.04 right? | 03:50 |
| wylde | mine is yes, the OP didn't give any details. | 03:50 |
| wylde | I asked them too though | 03:50 |
| EvilResistance | lemme test in my VM of 12.04 | 03:50 |
| wylde | er to* | 03:50 |
| wylde | ooo bash-completion may be the right package | 03:51 |
| EvilResistance | well hang on a moment :p | 03:51 |
| * EvilResistance grabs his zshrc, uploads to remote-location, and opens his VM for Precise | 03:52 | |
| wylde | I am, just trying to determine the culprit :) | 03:52 |
| EvilResistance | yep, i have most of the zsh tab completion active :P | 03:52 |
| * EvilResistance will test | 03:52 | |
| wylde | thanks | 03:52 |
| EvilResistance | if i can confirm the error exists in zsh as well | 03:52 |
| EvilResistance | then its a bigger problem than just gnome-terminal | 03:52 |
| EvilResistance | if its not reproducible within zsh with most of the tab completion stuffs enabled, but happens in bash, it may be bash-completion | 03:53 |
| * EvilResistance will test with TTY as well | 03:53 | |
| EvilResistance | this is why bugsquad is awesome: some of us do more thorough testing :P | 03:53 |
| wylde | lol | 03:53 |
| EvilResistance | and we can sometimes provide alternate insights :P | 03:53 |
| * EvilResistance loads the VM now | 03:53 | |
| wylde | always a good thing :) | 03:54 |
| wylde | bahaha, I almost killed unity with exiting a byobu shell >.< | 03:57 |
| EvilResistance | i'm curious what plugin-container is in... | 03:59 |
| EvilResistance | ahh... | 03:59 |
| EvilResistance | ffox i think | 03:59 |
| EvilResistance | and only for plugins to rujn | 03:59 |
| wylde | yep | 04:00 |
| EvilResistance | lemme load up youtube :P | 04:00 |
| wylde | alrighty | 04:00 |
| EvilResistance | hmm | 04:03 |
| EvilResistance | i can't confirm this exists | 04:03 |
| EvilResistance | tab-complete doesnt work | 04:03 |
| wylde | did you hit enter? | 04:03 |
| wylde | it LOOKS like it works, but the command won't complete | 04:04 |
| EvilResistance | it doesnt tab-complete :P | 04:04 |
| EvilResistance | that's the problem | 04:04 |
| wylde | not until I delete the r in container | 04:04 |
| EvilResistance | and bash-completion is there | 04:04 |
| wylde | hmm | 04:04 |
| EvilResistance | oh wait there it is | 04:04 |
| EvilResistance | yeah, it may be a bug in 'killall' | 04:04 |
| EvilResistance | not bash-completion | 04:05 |
| * EvilResistance was in ZSH ;p | 04:05 | |
| EvilResistance | wylde: do you think this exists in gnome-terminal? | 04:07 |
| * EvilResistance has to ask | 04:07 | |
| wylde | not just gnome-terminal, same issue in xterm and tty1 | 04:08 |
| EvilResistance | right, which makes it bash-centric | 04:08 |
| EvilResistance | give me a few seconds | 04:08 |
| EvilResistance | i'm adding that this is filed against bash-completion, but i may also file this against psmisc, and add additional details for psmisc | 04:11 |
| wylde | alrighty, thanks :) | 04:12 |
| wylde | bahaha looks like he was kubuntu too, and I only see that because he made a mistake with apt-cache policy | 04:14 |
| EvilResistance | damn it, i cant write correctly | 04:15 |
| EvilResistance | validated got autocorrected to invalidated | 04:15 |
| wylde | LOL | 04:16 |
| EvilResistance | whatever | 04:16 |
| * EvilResistance shrugs | 04:16 | |
| EvilResistance | the package is 'Opinion' against gnome-terminal, but is filed against bash-completion and psmisc | 04:17 |
| EvilResistance | (psmisc for killall, if this bug is confirmed in any terminal emulator, should be marked 'confirmed') | 04:17 |
| EvilResistance | (and in any shell, including zsh | 04:17 |
| wylde | ahh alrighty I see. | 04:17 |
| EvilResistance | but as well, it may be an additional bug that needs separate filing | 04:19 |
| EvilResistance | actually i lied it should be marked as confirmed | 04:19 |
| wylde | could possibly need to go upstream? | 04:21 |
| EvilResistance | for psmisc, possibly, but i'd not mark it as triageable | 04:22 |
| EvilResistance | i'm going to determine a potential priority for it, and poke a bugcontroller | 04:22 |
| wylde | heh alrighty. | 04:22 |
| EvilResistance | it may be either low or medium... | 04:24 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance | 04:26 |
| EvilResistance | against psmisc (in this case 'killall' command) | 04:26 |
| EvilResistance | what would you say the importance should be? | 04:26 |
| wylde | ahh I see | 04:26 |
| * EvilResistance wants your opinion now :P | 04:27 | |
| wylde | lol, I'll do some reading :) then give you one :P | 04:27 |
| EvilResistance | well its not hard to tell | 04:27 |
| EvilResistance | that's an outline of what bug severity (low, medium, etc.) should be against packages | 04:27 |
| EvilResistance | i'm going to say low, but meh | 04:28 |
| wylde | I'd say low, it's basically annoying and not going to really affect the system. | 04:28 |
| EvilResistance | agreed. | 04:28 |
| EvilResistance | bugcontrol members: LP Bug 994189. To change: affects:psmisc: Severity change to 'Low'. Status of 'Confirmed' is valid as it has been confirmed by myself and wylde. | 04:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 994189 in psmisc "killall incorrect tab completion" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994189 | 04:29 |
| wylde | sounds good to me | 04:30 |
| EvilResistance | yeah, that's my poke to bugcontrol to change the severity. we can't, they can. | 04:31 |
| wylde | :) | 04:31 |
| wylde | could always subscribe them hehe | 04:31 |
| EvilResistance | nah, they're a subset of the bug squad and the bugs team | 04:32 |
| EvilResistance | they're just a group with more privileges | 04:32 |
| EvilResistance | we shouldn't subscribe them to anything, we poke them here | 04:33 |
| EvilResistance | same if we think a bug needs 'Triaged' status | 04:33 |
| EvilResistance | bugcontrol has to be poked, and the triage system says to poke here if you're not already bugcontrol | 04:33 |
| EvilResistance | (which we arent) | 04:33 |
| wylde | ahh alrighty. I'll keep that in mind, I did however subscribe the alsa team to a bug last week :) | 04:33 |
| EvilResistance | wylde: that's an upstream group though | 04:34 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 04:34 |
| EvilResistance | that's a different story | 04:34 |
| wylde | hehe yep | 04:34 |
| EvilResistance | (although be careful subscribing other groups to bugs... | 04:34 |
| wylde | yeah I wouldn't do it all the time. | 04:34 |
| * EvilResistance returns to what he was doing prior to bugsquad stuff today, which was coding | 04:34 | |
| * wylde blares "codemonkey" on the stereo! | 04:35 | |
| wylde | oh, and thanks for the assistance EvilResistance :) | 04:37 |
| EvilResistance | mhm | 04:38 |
| wylde | I confirmed Bug #995747 , which 'seems' to be caused by one line of code in the "external tools>>remove trailing spaces" sed 's/[[:blank:]]*$//' | 06:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 995747 in gedit "Gedit: Remove trailing spaces feature removes last line." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995747 | 06:59 |
| wylde | ok the problems not the sed >.< | 07:59 |
| wylde | I'm also not sure if this needs to go upstream? | 08:16 |
| emper0r | hi i'm new.. where is a list to see package for adoption or requesting for help or wherever call . ? | 12:11 |
| penguin42 | emper0r: Well, the bug list on launcpad.net you should be able to find stuff requested for packaging, but there are loads of bugs on there - what are you after doing? | 12:16 |
| emper0r | i'm try to start help, seeking some littles and easy issues to can adapt here.. and after experience increasing my scope. particulary python/qt problems :| | 12:19 |
| emper0r | sorry by my english. | 12:20 |
| penguin42 | emper0r: That's OK, so if you know python/qt why don't you look at packages that use it, and look at their lists of bugs? | 12:52 |
| emper0r | ok... that list exactly where is it? | 12:54 |
| emper0r | btw, that means exactly.. triage in othwer words? | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | emper0r: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu well you can triage if you want, but you can also help fix stuff | 12:58 |
| ersi | emper0r: If you're a Pythonista, maybe this is something that'd interest you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/FoundationsQPythonVersions | 13:24 |
| penguin42 | seeing a few people saying that apport is crashing in ubuntu.py add_hooks_info | 14:22 |
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| jtaylor | lucid user here for some quick -proposed verification? | 16:57 |
| jtaylor | bug 986279 | 16:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 986279 in hg-git "can't clone the repo: ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986279 | 16:57 |
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| GraemeLion | If I don't have the ability to set a bug triaged, can I request it here? Or.. an even odder question.. | 19:12 |
| GraemeLion | The previous version of a software has a bug. The current version does not, but the current version is supplied in a different package. Is that bug valid? | 19:12 |
| micahg | GraemeLion: yes | 19:12 |
| micahg | GraemeLion: yes to your first question about triage :) | 19:12 |
| greg-g | GraemeLion: link for the second issue? | 19:12 |
| GraemeLion | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tf/+bug/985712 | 19:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 985712 in tf "when run inside a screen session, tf loses the buffer on resizing" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:13 |
| GraemeLion | tinyfugue (tf) and tinyfugue version5 (tf5) are two different packages | 19:13 |
| GraemeLion | tf5 does not contain this bug | 19:14 |
| greg-g | GraemeLion: odd, why are there separate packages? | 19:15 |
| micahg | GraemeLion: yes, valid for tf since it's still in quantal | 19:15 |
| GraemeLion | micahg: Okay, makes sense :D | 19:15 |
| GraemeLion | greg-g: Heck of a question that one. | 19:15 |
| GraemeLion | I have no idea, though. There likely shouldn't be two packages here. | 19:16 |
| micahg | looks like tf should be removed in Debian (different maintainers though) | 19:16 |
| GraemeLion | And in fact, tf5 is symlinked to tf as an alternative. | 19:16 |
| * micahg sends a mail | 19:18 | |
| greg-g | thanks micahg | 19:18 |
| greg-g | micahg: over my pay grade ;) | 19:19 |
| GraemeLion | Heh. I just picked a package I was familiar with to see if it had bugs. Was going to try to potentially fix it if necessary | 19:19 |
| micahg | ah, right...tf5 is still a beta, that might be why :) | 19:20 |
| * micahg decides not to send the e-mail | 19:20 | |
| GraemeLion | micahg: It's been a beta for a good long while, though | 19:20 |
| micahg | yes, that's true | 19:20 |
| GraemeLion | It might only be a beta because Ken Keys dropped off the map 5 years ago :D | 19:20 |
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| GraemeLion | Anyways, I recommend it as a low. Workaround exists. | 19:24 |
| Robint91 | hi all | 20:02 |
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| wylde | I'm thinking Bug #996090 may be a support request but I'd like another opinion since I'm not 100% positive the following comand would clear up the issue 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update' | 21:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 996090 in ubuntu "dpkg error on dist-upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996090 | 21:14 |
| wylde | command* | 21:15 |
| Resistance | it's a support request, but support requests arent bugs | 21:17 |
| Resistance | from the bugs guides: Status: Invalid: This should be used if the reported problem is not a bug at all ... | 21:18 |
| Resistance | so i'm marking it as invalid, but if someone else thinks otherwise, feel free to reopen it | 21:18 |
| * Resistance shall return later | 21:19 | |
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