| === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance | ||
| EvilResistance | does anyone here know which package the command ubuntu-bug is a part of? | 00:56 |
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| EvilResistance | apt-file suggests apport, but i want to be sure | 00:56 |
| EvilResistance | nevermind, found it | 00:58 |
| === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance | ||
| Resistance | i'll propose it to apport, but that'd be a feature request bug, so it wouldnt necessarily need a brainstorm topic (although this needed it: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/29656/ ) | 01:31 |
| Resistance | whoops sorry | 01:34 |
| Resistance | wrong channel | 01:34 |
| * Resistance blames the laptop touchpad | 01:34 | |
| === pi-rho is now known as pi-rho|away | ||
| === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance | ||
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| highvoltage | tumbleweed: ah, I was confused last night, my estimation was actuall ~thursday for #1m not today | 13:22 |
| Noxygen | hello | 15:27 |
| === itnet7 is now known as itnet7_uds | ||
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| bobweaver | Is there live streaming going on ? | 17:30 |
| jtaylor | if there is its impossible to find | 17:31 |
| tumbleweed | http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/status.xsl | 17:31 |
| bobweaver | Hi jtaylor yeah I have been looking for a bit | 17:31 |
| broder | there are links in #ubuntu-uds | 17:31 |
| bobweaver | thansk tumbleweed ! | 17:32 |
| bobweaver | none work ^^ | 17:32 |
| broder | hmm, i guess not? that's unfortunate | 17:32 |
| jtaylor | there where you look first there are no links, e.g. the room schedule or room irc channels | 17:32 |
| EvilResistance | last i checked, they're in lunch break | 17:33 |
| EvilResistance | 1PM - 2PM Eastern US | 17:33 |
| jtaylor | it should be 10:33 there | 17:33 |
| tumbleweed | correct, 10:33 | 17:33 |
| EvilResistance | you sure? | 17:33 |
| tumbleweed | I'm at UDS | 17:33 |
| * EvilResistance is looking at the schedule as listed on the wiki, unless that is not up to date | 17:33 | |
| bobweaver | the metting just started there live time | 17:34 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: then someone needs to give me the updated schedule links | 17:34 |
| bobweaver | ballroom f | 17:34 |
| tumbleweed | EvilResistance: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-07/ | 17:34 |
| bobweaver | but there is no live feed ? | 17:34 |
| bobweaver | I woke up early for this :) | 17:35 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: yes, icecast.ubuntu.com | 17:35 |
| bobweaver | Not working ^^ | 17:35 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: they seem to be working. I'm ubsy recording from them: http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-q/ | 17:35 |
| tumbleweed | or is it just silent? | 17:35 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: then the pages I accessed from the UDS main page are out of date, or mis-linked | 17:35 |
| tumbleweed | EvilResistance: which page? | 17:36 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: might've been my end, i'll double-check later | 17:36 |
| * EvilResistance has to attend to a phone call | 17:36 | |
| bobweaver | I have trid bot mp3 and xspf | 17:36 |
| bobweaver | http://imagebin.org/211431 | 17:36 |
| bobweaver | tried * | 17:36 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: they are ogg | 17:36 |
| bobweaver | I am also signed in here http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20676/other-q-motu-bof/ | 17:37 |
| tumbleweed | that hasn't started yet | 17:37 |
| ajmitch | bobweaver: the MOTU session is in 25 min, there's noone in grand ballroom f right now | 17:37 |
| micahg | hmm, I was wondering, that session is scheduled twice, was that on purpose? | 17:38 |
| tumbleweed | I saw that too. No idea | 17:38 |
| * micahg is looking forward to meeting ajmitch | 17:38 | |
| ajmitch | micahg: unlikely, but the schedule seems to change all the time | 17:38 |
| EpikVision | How do you do that star thing? | 17:38 |
| * ajmitch is in grand ballroom c right now | 17:38 | |
| micahg | EpikVision: /me | 17:38 |
| tumbleweed | ajmitch: oh, I also want to mee tyou. in C too | 17:38 |
| * EpikVision finds this cool. | 17:38 | |
| * EvilResistance pokes EpikVision with a /me command | 17:38 | |
| EpikVision | AH | 17:38 |
| EpikVision | thanks | 17:39 |
| * micahg is in the security roundtable | 17:39 | |
| * EpikVision is excited to meet MOTU people in 25 min. | 17:39 | |
| bobweaver | ok I think I have figured out this page :) have to use the PATH as the path (there should just be link) | 17:41 |
| bobweaver | ballroom f = http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grand-ballroom-f.ogg | 17:42 |
| bobweaver | like that ^^ | 17:42 |
| tumbleweed | correct | 17:42 |
| tumbleweed | there are links to these in the topic for each room's IRC channel | 17:42 |
| bobweaver | thanks tumbleweed this is my 1st summit either there or not so I will take all the help I can get thanks again :) | 17:44 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: np :) | 17:44 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-L/RemoteParticipation btw | 17:45 |
| tumbleweed | err that's from an old UDS | 17:45 |
| tumbleweed | ah, they've stopped doing that page since UDS-N | 17:45 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: that was showing up actually :P | 17:45 |
| EvilResistance | that was a page that someone in the LoCo i'm in distributed, that'd explain why the schedule shoed as wrong | 17:46 |
| EvilResistance | showed* | 17:46 |
| * EvilResistance sends an updated email out to his LoCo's mailing list | 17:46 | |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: i assume that remote IRC participation (where applicable) is #ubuntu-uds-[room] ? | 17:48 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 17:48 |
| tumbleweed | and say hi at the start of the session, so thta people know you are there | 17:49 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: will do, but i'll be lurking for the next session(s) for a while, got to go to a meeting :/ | 17:49 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: also, you might poke the IRCC, have someone update the UDS room topics with current session(s), they're not updating (someone already poked the IRCC, but still) | 17:50 |
| iulian | What room is the MOTU bof in? | 17:50 |
| iulian | Oh, nevermind. | 17:50 |
| jtaylor | Grand Ballroom F | 17:50 |
| Laney | the unsigned rooms | 17:51 |
| * Laney spins around in circles | 17:51 | |
| iulian | Haha. | 17:52 |
| bobweaver | \0/ | 17:53 |
| bobweaver | SSO maybe ? | 17:55 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: you need to be added to ~ubuntu-etherpad. Ask in #ubuntu-uds | 17:57 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: members automatically have access to that, right? | 17:59 |
| broder | EvilResistance: yes | 17:59 |
| bobweaver | Thanks tumbleweed ! | 17:59 |
| bobweaver | will do now | 17:59 |
| bobweaver | tumbleweed, what does that mean ? | 18:02 |
| AlanBell | EvilResistance: they are updating | 18:05 |
| AlanBell | or grand-ballroom-h has updated | 18:05 |
| bobweaver | motu beginners team ! | 18:09 |
| micahg | MOTU bof in #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-f | 18:10 |
| bobweaver | Sorry if any of my questions in the meeting where off topic I am just dieing too learn :) | 18:57 |
| bobweaver | Is there any documention on how too find what DEPENDS you need to put in your control file ? example here is my control file http://paste.ubuntu.com/974245/ this is how I got too that point. I installed ubuntu server ran dpkg-query -l then saved and filtered the list after that I installed my package and ran dpkg-query -l again and filtered 0out the results and then compaired the two. I did not know what ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Dep | 19:29 |
| bobweaver | ends}, meant at the time. but now I do kinda. is there a beeter way to do what I am trying to do and if so how too go about it. I am sure that I have too many things under Depends: thanks for your time | 19:29 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: we try to generate them automatically where possible (so the shlibs:Depends takes care fo most libraries) | 19:31 |
| tumbleweed | but for packages like that, you as the maintainer are expected to list the things it needs | 19:31 |
| tumbleweed | I'm suprised to see libs listed in there... | 19:31 |
| bobweaver | can I run command too see what shlibs picks up by default ? | 19:32 |
| bobweaver | so I do not put in control file ? | 19:32 |
| tumbleweed | bobweaver: shlibs picks up shared libaries | 19:32 |
| tumbleweed | you can see what it picked up, by looking at debian/$package.substitutions | 19:32 |
| bobweaver | but is there a command too see what ones it uses. like lets take mysql-server | 19:33 |
| jtaylor | bobweaver: please use wrap-and-sort on so long depends lines | 19:33 |
| bobweaver | redoing now | 19:33 |
| bobweaver | re-doing * | 19:33 |
| jtaylor | there are some tools | 19:33 |
| jtaylor | but they never catch everything | 19:34 |
| jtaylor | especially in such a package | 19:34 |
| jtaylor | can't remember any names, autoapt or so, but its more for getting the depends from a configure script not at runtime | 19:35 |
| bobweaver | ldd lists all ? | 19:35 |
| bobweaver | like | 19:35 |
| jtaylor | ldd is covered by shlib:Depends | 19:35 |
| bobweaver | I see do if I look at that then I can see what not too put in control file ? | 19:36 |
| jtaylor | anything that starts with lib and is not perl you normally don't have to list | 19:36 |
| bobweaver | sweet thanks | 19:36 |
| jtaylor | just check the substvars after a build | 19:37 |
| bobweaver | so just to clarify I am going too use toilet as a example if I run whereis toilet I find that it is under /usr/bin/toilet Now if I run. ldd /usr/bin/toilet I get all the shDepends now I do not need to include anything that is on that list too the control file ? | 19:41 |
| jtaylor | yes | 19:41 |
| bobweaver | thanks | 19:42 |
| jtaylor | the only elf shared libraries you have to add by hand are plugins | 19:42 |
| jtaylor | which are loaded at runtime | 19:42 |
| bobweaver | what does ${misc:Depends} do ? | 19:42 |
| jtaylor | misc stuff :) | 19:42 |
| bobweaver | I have asked this before but I am thick sometimes | 19:42 |
| jtaylor | e.g. debhelper may need to add stuff | 19:43 |
| bobweaver | is there a way too see what misc stuff is in a package like ldd ? | 19:43 |
| jtaylor | common example is when you use --link-doc, it adds a dependency on the main package (and then lintian complains...) | 19:43 |
| jtaylor | read the substvars file | 19:43 |
| jtaylor | 21:31 <tumbleweed> you can see what it picked up, by looking at debian/$package.substitutions | 19:43 |
| bobweaver | I see | 19:44 |
| bobweaver | sorry like I said I am thick but when I get it I get it :) | 19:44 |
| bobweaver | so it is sor my files that I push in my make file too $(DETDIR) | 19:45 |
| bobweaver | $(DESTDIR)* | 19:45 |
| bobweaver | arghh | 19:45 |
| bobweaver | $(DISTDIR)* | 19:45 |
| jtaylor | its DESTDIR | 19:46 |
| bobweaver | lol I thinks that we have talked about this before :) | 19:47 |
| bobweaver | but I am correct about above ? | 19:47 |
| jtaylor | I don't understand the question | 19:47 |
| bobweaver | s|sor|for | 19:47 |
| bobweaver | so ${misc:Depends} is for my files that I push in my make file too $(DESTDIR) is there anything else it does ? | 19:48 |
| jtaylor | no its for misc dependencies from e.g. debhelper scripts | 19:49 |
| bobweaver | OHH | 19:49 |
| jtaylor | its empty in most cases | 19:49 |
| bobweaver | jtaylor, I took your advice for yesterday and made a whole new framework for upsource I think that it is alot better it can be found here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/zpanelcp/zpanelcp/files as you can see my Makefile is now only 3 commands and I fully understand how the make file works now. This is all because of you just thought that you would like too hear that | 19:53 |
| jtaylor | source files in /etc? oO | 19:55 |
| jtaylor | also start stop are far to generic for /usr/bin | 19:56 |
| jtaylor | e.g. it conflicts with upstart | 19:56 |
| jtaylor | so every ubuntu system | 19:56 |
| jtaylor | a no upstart is in /sbin/ | 19:56 |
| jtaylor | still bad | 19:56 |
| bobweaver | so make into zpanelx-start | 19:56 |
| jtaylor | yes | 19:57 |
| bobweaver | I want to link it too services | 19:57 |
| bobweaver | So user can do sudo services zpanelx-start /stop | 19:58 |
| jtaylor | you need init scripts or upstart or systemd job files for that | 19:58 |
| bobweaver | Thanks I will look into that | 19:58 |
| EvilResistance | anyone know whether there's a UDS session on the LiveCD and installation of Ubuntu? not sure if this is where i'd correctly ask, but... | 20:39 |
| * EvilResistance can't find one, and already searched the entire schedule, and wants to make sure he didnt miss something | 20:40 | |
| tumbleweed | I poked jono to schedule https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-debian | 21:02 |
| tumbleweed | err | 21:02 |
| tumbleweed | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-debian | 21:02 |
| Laney | YOU BEAUTY | 21:02 |
| tumbleweed | lol | 21:02 |
| sladen | EvilResistance: probably under Foundations if it's happening | 21:03 |
| sladen | EvilResistance: was there something specific you had in mind? | 21:03 |
| sladen | btw, remote people. http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ is working now, live | 21:03 |
| EvilResistance | sladen: yeah... but i posted the idea(s) to brainstorm instead | 21:03 |
| EvilResistance | sladen: since i then realized the topic i wanted to bring up was a feature-request/change in ubiquity :P | 21:04 |
| EvilResistance | my second thought was its better to use brainstorm for that :P | 21:04 |
| === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance | ||
| === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack | ||
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