[18:09] <highvoltage> any comments from IRC? we're listening :)
[18:14] <bobweaver> What if the people turn you down at debian mentor saying that you "have a lot too learn " what too do ?  Just keep truckin ?
[18:17] <iulian> We can use the mailing list instead of having a regular IRC meeting. We had those back in the days if I recall correctly and we stopped doing them in favour of sending emails to the mailing list when we actually had something to say.
[18:18]  * iulian nods.
[18:25] <bobweaver> I can not seem too find link but this is what was said too me  "ubuntu devs have pointed you here because they do not want to babysit you "  then I talked about debian/control file and using dpkg-query -l to make a DEPENDS list and then compair I was told not too do that and I have alot too learn then no one talked too me after that no matter how many questions I asked.still looking for log on irc.debian.net #debian-ment
[18:25] <bobweaver> or
[18:30] <iulian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings/Minutes
[18:30] <iulian> The last meeting was 3 years ago by the way.
[18:31] <bobweaver> I said something at the ubuntu open week about video tutorials (aka and how I would shave my head if there is new videos)  what if there was like a checklist of things that help with the prosses of join motu and also learning at the same time. kill 2 birds with one stone. just a suggestion
[18:32] <sladen> highvoltage: (comments from IRC?)  move closer to the microphones :)
[18:35] <highvoltage> sladen: ok
[18:36] <komputes> hi sladen! :-)
[18:36] <EpikVision> bobweaver: video tutorials are favorable!
[18:41] <bobweaver> I what about a question and answer forum when joining the mailing list ? also where is this mailing list ?
[18:43] <broder> bobweaver: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu is the mailing list
[18:47] <bobweaver> thanks broder
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[18:51] <bobweaver> QUESTION: as beeing someone that is new is there a check list anywhere like start from here and go too here then learn this ect ?
[18:51] <sladen> thank you
[18:51] <sladen> bobweaver: -> probably best to pop along to #ubuntu-motu
[18:51] <bobweaver> will do sladen
[18:52] <sladen> bobweaver: (although probably laggy *during* as people are otherwise occupied
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[18:52] <sladen> bobweaver: but things should pick up again people get home and sleep off their jetlag too
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[18:53] <sladen> what's wrong with the bar /this/ time?
[18:53] <sladen> just too expensive, or not open yet?
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[18:54] <bobweaver> thanks every one you all are awesome !
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[18:55]  * EpikVision grins
[18:55] <EpikVision> ok
[18:55] <iulian> Later.
[19:01] <desrt> is anyone on IRC leading this session?
[19:01] <desrt> nobody present locally knows what we're supposed to be talking about
[19:01] <sladen> desrt: I think wendar(?) is talking?
[19:01] <desrt> (and the topic seems quite similar to what we discussed in the last session upstairs)
[19:02] <desrt> let's wait until :05
[19:03] <desrt> Pendulum: are you leading?
[19:05] <desrt> i think nobody is coming to lead the session
[19:05] <desrt> so we will not have it
[19:05] <sladen> desrt: ah, I'm on the wrong stream, D'oh
[19:22] <Faqtotum> why is this ballroom empty?
[19:22] <Faqtotum> is the session canceled?
[19:23] <jtaylor> 21:03 <desrt> i think nobody is coming to lead the session
[19:23] <jtaylor> 21:03 <desrt> so we will not have it
[19:23] <Faqtotum> oh ok
[19:23] <Faqtotum> thanx
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[22:10] <wookey_> well said infinity! :-)
[22:12] <wookey_> telling everying to get an external drive
[22:12] <wookey_> SD sucks
[22:12] <wookey_> And thus do real installs
[22:13] <wookey_> I alwyas thought it was crappy :-)
[22:15] <wookey_> what does ubuntu use for installing? Debian-installer or something else?
[22:16] <rsalveti> debian installer
[22:16] <wookey_> OK
[22:21] <wookey_> both live image and pre-installed need qemu support. right?
[22:22] <wookey_> I thought that was how we prepared them?
[22:22] <rsalveti> wookey_: we'd support qemu as well, but atm we're using native image builds
[22:22] <wookey_> OK. fine.
[22:22] <wookey_> I was just wondering if there was an aarch64 server issue
[22:22] <wookey_> (no qemu there)
[22:27] <chihchun__> question - we will still have different images for different platforms, right? not one live image for all arm platform
[22:29] <wookey_> july, but I'm not saying what year
[22:30] <rsalveti> +1
[22:33] <chihchun__> what kind of medium we expected for the installer? bootable cd or sd card? (some boards has only sd card, and no enough flash storage)
[22:33] <rsalveti> sd card only
[22:34] <chihchun__> so installer in sd card, and install rootfs in sd card?
[22:34] <rsalveti> rootfs later on the usb disk
[22:34] <rsalveti> the user would be able to use the board at the live session
[22:35] <wookey_> Only a USB key, which isn;t much of an investment
[22:35] <rsalveti> and then if he wants to really use and install ubuntu, they would need the external usb device
[22:35] <rsalveti> yeah
[22:35] <chihchun__> then the installer need to take care of the boot loader configurations
[22:36] <rsalveti> we're kind of dealing with this anyway already
[22:49] <rsalveti> thanks for the session folks
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