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daker | hello | 16:59 |
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YoBoY | hi everyone | 17:01 |
daker | hello uds-room-201 | 17:02 |
YoBoY | hi laura | 17:02 |
Cheri703 | hola folks! | 17:03 |
pleia2 | hello :) | 17:04 |
mhall119 | can those of you listening to the icecast hear us okay? | 17:07 |
daker | yep | 17:07 |
YoBoY | yes | 17:07 |
mhall119 | cool | 17:07 |
daker | Huston, we have a sound problem ツ | 17:12 |
YoBoY | sound broken here :] | 17:12 |
YoBoY | ^^" | 17:12 |
Cheri703 | yeah, mine too, was just refreshing to be sure | 17:12 |
AlanBell | is it working in other rooms? | 17:13 |
cielak | other rooms work | 17:13 |
YoBoY | yes in grand ballroom a and b | 17:13 |
daker | AlanBell, yes | 17:13 |
daker | uds-room-201, Houston we have a problem | 17:14 |
daker | mhall119, ^ | 17:14 |
YoBoY | who played with the jack ? :) | 17:14 |
AlanBell | jono is checking connections | 17:15 |
* dscassel is happy folks are looking into it. :) | 17:15 | |
mhall119 | daker: you could hear us earlier right? | 17:15 |
daker | mhall119, yep 4min ago | 17:16 |
mhall119 | nothing now? | 17:16 |
YoBoY | nope | 17:16 |
mhall119 | hmmm, we didn't touch anything.. | 17:17 |
mhall119 | are any other icecast feeds for the other rooms working for you? | 17:17 |
YoBoY | yes | 17:17 |
daker | yes grand-ballroom-a/b | 17:17 |
Cheri703 | audio! | 17:18 |
YoBoY | yes working | 17:18 |
philipballew | nice! | 17:18 |
daker | yes | 17:18 |
YoBoY | thanks you | 17:18 |
Cheri703 | yes | 17:18 |
YoBoY | who is to blame ? | 17:18 |
daker | blame chris | 17:18 |
Cheri703 | we're good, and whoever said my name said it right \o/ good job ;) | 17:18 |
dholbach | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20723/community-roundtable-monday/ | 17:20 |
daker | oh dholbach ツ | 17:20 |
dholbach | salut daker :) | 17:21 |
daker | salut | 17:21 |
YoBoY | can we talk also how locos can point efficiently to the new localized system documentation ? | 17:24 |
YoBoY | yes | 17:24 |
YoBoY | https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/index.html << here it's localized | 17:24 |
YoBoY | cool :) | 17:25 |
mhall119 | YoBoY: come to the help.u.c and SUMO sessions, SUMO lets us handle localization better | 17:28 |
YoBoY | mhall119: I'll try, not easy, I have an ubuntu party to organize after my work day ^^" | 17:29 |
nik90 | haha | 17:46 |
YoBoY | thanks | 17:46 |
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YoBoY | arrête de parler huats | 17:55 |
huats | YoBoY: oups | 17:55 |
YoBoY | ^^ | 17:55 |
SpamapS | o/ hello from LA LA land | 17:59 |
SpamapS | just lost the audio feed | 18:00 |
SpamapS | n/m local problem | 18:00 |
SpamapS | ________________ | 18:02 |
SpamapS | < HELLO JUJUITES > | 18:02 |
SpamapS | ---------------- | 18:02 |
SpamapS | \ ^__^ | 18:02 |
SpamapS | \ (oo)\_______ | 18:02 |
SpamapS | (__)\ )\/\ | 18:02 |
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SpamapS | || || | 18:02 |
SpamapS | yes, proceed :) | 18:03 |
SpamapS | I have to wonder if there is some parallel work going on in OpenStack's glance | 18:06 |
SpamapS | The OpenStack API has a call to describe instance types with their attributes | 18:07 |
SpamapS | nova-manage flavor list m1.medium: Memory: 4096MB, VCPUS: 2, Storage: 40GB, FlavorID: 3, Swap: 0GB, RXTX Quota: 0GB, RXTX Cap: 0MB m1.large: Memory: 8192MB, VCPUS: 4, Storage: 80GB, FlavorID: 4, Swap: 0GB, | 18:09 |
SpamapS | ECU is a rough measurement that is at least repeatable, "CPU" is much harder to define. | 18:13 |
SpamapS | +1 for discouraging custom image use | 18:17 |
SpamapS | We should look at making it easier to have juju create images or other ways to optimize away the pain of repeating painful, long installs. | 18:17 |
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SpamapS | +1 for resource map being a static file. We can iterate on tools to generate it from various providers and public data sources. | 18:20 |
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SpamapS | the expression of the data in a dictionary in yaml doesn't preclude other ways of interpretting it. | 18:23 |
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SpamapS | We can generate that map for openstack and maas into the same static format | 18:29 |
SpamapS | ec2 is undefined in private clouds being accessed via the EC2 API | 18:34 |
SpamapS | I don't know how much data openstack exposes about image OS | 18:35 |
SpamapS | Eucalyptus and CloudStack are not insignificant. | 18:36 |
SpamapS | Images are resources. :) | 18:38 |
SpamapS | perhaps the layer of abstraction needs to be class BaseResourceMap(object), class DynamicOSAPIResourceMap(BaseResourceMap), class StaticResourceMap(BaseResourceMap) | 18:41 |
SpamapS | "best effort" | 18:43 |
SpamapS | **10 minutes** | 18:45 |
SpamapS | "Ubuntu" is already a service provider with https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/query | 18:46 |
SpamapS | Giving people an option to just change that URL, is a decent first step. | 18:46 |
SpamapS | nova-manage flavor list | 18:48 |
SpamapS | m1.medium: Memory: 4096MB, VCPUS: 2, Storage: 40GB, FlavorID: 3, Swap: 0GB, RXTX Quota: 0GB, RXTX Cap: 0MB | 18:48 |
SpamapS | nova-manage flavor create --name=m1.miniscule --memory=128 --cpu=1 --local_gb=20 --flavor=6 --swap=0 --rxtx_quota=0 --rxtx_cap=0 | 18:48 |
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SpamapS | < 5 minutes > | 18:50 |
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SpamapS | \ ^__^ | 18:50 |
SpamapS | \ (oo)\_______ | 18:50 |
SpamapS | (__)\ )\/\ | 18:50 |
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SpamapS | See you all in Room 208! ;) | 18:52 |
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sladen | evening people | 22:00 |
sladen | http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/room-201.ogg.m3u | 22:00 |
sladen | irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#ubuntu-uds-room-201 | 22:00 |
sladen | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20745/design-theatre/ | 22:00 |
mpt | I'm looking at Kazam 1.0.6 (the version installable in Ubuntu 12.04), and I notice a couple of things | 22:21 |
mpt | One is that it presents "Video source" and "Record Region" as if they are separate, when really, they are mutually exclusive | 22:21 |
mpt | It could be a single toggle between "Select an area", "Active window", or "Whole screen" | 22:22 |
me4oslav_ | BTW, i am the other Kazam guy. Please, don't use the 1.0.6 release, it's a bit of ancient :P | 22:22 |
mpt | with any extra displays being offered only if there are any | 22:23 |
mpt | me4oslav_, what's the easiest way to install the latest version? | 22:23 |
me4oslav_ | A second :P | 22:23 |
me4oslav_ | There :0 | 22:24 |
me4oslav_ | bzr branch lp:kazam sudo apt-get install python-distutils-extra cd kazam python setup.py build sudo python setup.py install that's all | 22:24 |
mpt | That looks like it needs a few &&s | 22:24 |
me4oslav_ | just not a single command :D ... Copy/paste to IRC could be a pain :/ | 22:24 |
me4oslav_ | yeah, &&s are a must | 22:24 |
* mpt installing the latest version now | 22:25 | |
sladen | me4oslav_: can you paste that again with '&&' between each command, it's earlier for anyone else reading the logs | 22:26 |
me4oslav_ | sure :) | 22:26 |
mpt | gi._glib.GError: Failed to open file '/home/mpt/kazam/share/kazam/ui/kazam.ui': No such file or director | 22:27 |
me4oslav_ | bzr branch lp:kazam && sudo apt-get install python-distutils-extra && cd kazam python && python setup.py build && sudo python setup.py install | 22:27 |
mpt | y | 22:27 |
me4oslav_ | Err a second to try | 22:27 |
mpt | me4oslav_, "cd kazam python" doesn't look right | 22:28 |
me4oslav_ | facewall :D | 22:28 |
me4oslav_ | bzr branch lp:kazam && sudo apt-get install python-distutils-extra && cd kazam && python setup.py build && sudo python setup.py install | 22:28 |
me4oslav_ | those should be ok :P | 22:28 |
mpt | me4oslav_, same error as above | 22:30 |
me4oslav_ | a second trying it :) | 22:30 |
mpt | http://paste.ubuntu.com/974616/ | 22:30 |
mpt | Also click marks to show when you cliecked or double-clicked | 22:32 |
me4oslav_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/974625/ works fine for me | 22:32 |
me4oslav_ | @mpt sure you were in your home folder when you branched it? | 22:33 |
mpt | me4oslav_, yes. | 22:33 |
me4oslav_ | Just a second :) | 22:35 |
me4oslav_ | Ok, mpt get this - http://ubuntuone.com/5nXMNkq34N2dYGoLOXbEBV | 22:36 |
me4oslav_ | unrar it and than install it | 22:36 |
mpt | me4oslav_, and471 asked me to design Kazam last year. I never got time for it unfortunately, but here's an initial sketch I did: http://imgur.com/1dojw | 22:39 |
me4oslav_ | Ok, here is the thing. Can you please hope on #kazam (freenode) when you can and then we can talk about the Ui as much as we want to :) ... And you can always change the digital mockups ... | 22:41 |
sladen | I keep on missing it, what's the current program called (the email cient) | 22:42 |
mpt | sure thing | 22:42 |
sladen | client | 22:42 |
mpt | sladen, Geary | 22:42 |
sladen | mpt: ta | 22:43 |
mpt | With the current layout, the toolbar buttons are much closer to the list of mail folders (which they don't apply to) than to the messages (which they do apply to) | 22:46 |
mpt | You could move the toolbar to the bottom of the message/conversation pane | 22:46 |
gua-uds | #ubuntu-uds-room-202 | 22:49 |
mpt | I don't think consistency is important here. The toolbar is at the bottom of the Shotwell window -- has anyone ever complained about that? | 22:53 |
mpt | The same logic applies there; the actions are applying to photos rather than photo collections. | 22:53 |
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mpt | So the Drafts folder would be like a Geary-specific taskbar | 22:57 |
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sladen | did any more projects/questions come in? is there enough to run it again tomorrow? | 23:00 |
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sladen | thank you all. I look forward to the improvements in Kazam and Geary for the next release | 23:02 |
sladen | did anyone take any photos during the session? | 23:05 |
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sladen | we could do with something to illustrate the Design Theatre for for next time | 23:05 |
mpt | O_o | 23:08 |
txwikinger | Hello kubuntu meeting | 23:13 |
Resistance | hello, Kubuntu Quantal Development meeting :) | 23:13 |
txwikinger | yes | 23:15 |
txwikinger | we can hear y'all | 23:15 |
Resistance | we can *hear* you on the stream :P | 23:15 |
sladen | it sounds like a bunch of monkies | 23:15 |
Resistance | lol @ sladen | 23:15 |
Resistance | it'll clear up | 23:15 |
Resistance | so when're you starting the meeting, its two minutes past the start :P | 23:17 |
txwikinger | Time to start! | 23:17 |
txwikinger | #ubuntu-uds-room-201 | 23:17 |
Resistance | yes that room :P | 23:17 |
sladen | you just attend UDS in-person. Misses all the hassle | 23:18 |
rbelem | :-D | 23:18 |
tsdgeos_ | hi ho | 23:18 |
Resistance | you guys there at UDS know you're almost 5 minutes past start time right? | 23:18 |
sladen | it's actually linked off the Schedule now if you can get there | 23:18 |
sladen | Resistance: it's 20 past midnight, if that's what you mean | 23:18 |
afiestas | yo | 23:19 |
txwikinger | We always have to wait for those people talking in the hallways half the time :-) | 23:19 |
Resistance | hey Riddel, could you perhaps use a lighter highlight color on the etherpad? xD | 23:20 |
Resistance | thanks, Riddel, that's easier to see :P | 23:21 |
Resistance | you're live on the audio stream, to answer your question :P | 23:21 |
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* txwikinger is Ralph Janke | 23:23 | |
Resistance | lol... | 23:23 |
DarkwingUDS | yeah I now | 23:23 |
DarkwingUDS | *know | 23:23 |
* txwikinger is self-employed | 23:23 | |
* txwikinger is in Canada and also the contact for Kubuntu-de and Ubuntu Canada LoCo | 23:24 | |
DarkwingUDS | :D | 23:25 |
Riddell | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20593/kubuntu-q-development/ | 23:25 |
txwikinger | yes please | 23:25 |
DarkwingUDS | Muon Discover video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex6QCGb_G9Q | 23:26 |
txwikinger | discover application in ppas, other archives? | 23:26 |
Riddell | hi JontheEchidna | 23:27 |
Riddell | we're talking about Muon in 12.10 | 23:27 |
Riddell | what plans are there | 23:27 |
JontheEchidna | ok. I'll try to get the icecast working mometarily | 23:27 |
Riddell | what do you think we should do with muon discover? | 23:27 |
sladen | we sort of do that :) | 23:27 |
txwikinger | That's called Hangout | 23:27 |
sladen | we used to have two-way VoIP at UDS, but the interrupts don't work if the room is unbalanced between in-the-room, and remotely | 23:28 |
rbelem | LOL | 23:28 |
JontheEchidna | my recommendation would be to hold off until KDE has given us a clear UI guideline for QML-only apps, perhaps in the KF5/Qt5 timeframe | 23:28 |
Resistance | are you complaining about etherpad? | 23:28 |
JontheEchidna | and continue to use the existing QWidget-based UI | 23:28 |
JontheEchidna | until that time | 23:28 |
sladen | etherpad is ... an improvement | 23:28 |
txwikinger | Qt5 is August | 23:29 |
JontheEchidna | Qt Desktop components will seem to be key for this, and it's set for around Qt 5.1 or 5.2 iirc | 23:29 |
JontheEchidna | yes, I'm listening to the stream now | 23:29 |
JontheEchidna | ;) | 23:30 |
Resistance | heh | 23:30 |
bmoez | i want to know what kde version kubuntu 12.10 will use? | 23:30 |
JontheEchidna | I'm sorry, you cut out for a second, could you repeat that? | 23:30 |
Riddell | bmoez: another session | 23:30 |
afiestas | JontheEchidna: are you going to implement an interface similar to what Muon discover has right now? | 23:30 |
Resistance | FYI UDS peoples: the stream cuts out occasionally, so you might need to occasionally repeat yourselves ;) | 23:31 |
JontheEchidna | I don't plan on placing major UI work into the current QWidget UI | 23:31 |
JontheEchidna | Discover can be considered the replacement for the current installer | 23:31 |
DarkwingUDS | Resistance: Just let us know and we will respeak things. | 23:31 |
Resistance | DarkwingUDS: that's the plan :) | 23:32 |
DarkwingUDS | Whoot! | 23:32 |
JontheEchidna | yes, it uses the Plasma components currently but was not built for tablets | 23:32 |
JontheEchidna | we could considered it for tablets if it could get tablet support | 23:32 |
rbelem | JontheEchidna, is plasma components based on qt quick components? | 23:32 |
JontheEchidna | rbelem: yes, the Plasma components are the standard set of QML components that plasmoids use | 23:33 |
JontheEchidna | for listboxes, lineedits, etc | 23:33 |
rbelem | awesome | 23:33 |
Riddell | can be considered if it complies with UI guidelines yet to be specified | 23:33 |
Riddell | need adaptions for tablets | 23:33 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: happy with that ^^ ? | 23:33 |
JontheEchidna | yeah | 23:33 |
JontheEchidna | I would definitely love to see it in an Active spin | 23:33 |
txwikinger | what is that? | 23:33 |
Riddell | etherpad red person name yourself! | 23:35 |
Resistance | could you not install the components required automatically with the installation package? | 23:35 |
Riddell | txwikinger: did you add "create a juju charm"? | 23:38 |
txwikinger | yes | 23:39 |
Riddell | txwikinger: do you know how to do that? | 23:40 |
Riddell | actually I think koolhead17 already has | 23:40 |
txwikinger | Riddell: I will when it is needed | 23:40 |
Riddell | txwikinger: lovely, square up with koolhead17 on that | 23:40 |
txwikinger | ok | 23:41 |
txwikinger | let's use ruby :-) | 23:49 |
DarkwingUDS | txwikinger: PERL | 23:49 |
* DarkwingUDS ducks and runs | 23:49 | |
Resistance | O.O | 23:49 |
txwikinger | DarkwingUDS: 20 years ago :-) | 23:50 |
DarkwingUDS | txwikinger: Cobalt | 23:50 |
JontheEchidna | me ;) | 23:51 |
JontheEchidna | if we're not going to be in main | 23:52 |
JontheEchidna | then we won't have langpack issues to worry about | 23:52 |
JontheEchidna | so we could presumably switch to KDE language stuff, right? | 23:52 |
JontheEchidna | I think adding stuff to the current KDE KLocale kcm module would be a better idea than trying to maintain the old language-selector codebase | 23:53 |
DarkwingUDS | ++ | 23:54 |
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JontheEchidna | I think in KF5 QLocale will be a whole lot more involved, yes? | 23:54 |
DarkwingUDS | Yes | 23:55 |
txwikinger | +1 | 23:55 |
JontheEchidna | we could probably maintain language-selector for 1 more cycle | 23:55 |
JontheEchidna | if Ubuntu isn't breaking it anymore, then there shouldn't be too much trouble | 23:55 |
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JontheEchidna | lol | 23:55 |
Resistance | lol | 23:56 |
DarkwingUDS | Sorry for tossing you out there JontheEchidna :D | 23:56 |
JontheEchidna | :P | 23:56 |
JontheEchidna | the main issue with language-selector has been Ubuntu changing stuff in the common classes | 23:56 |
JontheEchidna | and the Qt UI wasn't updated to reflect those | 23:56 |
JontheEchidna | bitrot w/ a moving platform | 23:56 |
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DarkwingUDS | But, you're right, if Ubuntu isn't going to break it then it would be a matter of just packaging... Right? | 23:56 |
udsbotu | uds-room-201: 2 minutes left in this session! | 23:57 |
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txwikinger | Didn't rgreening already mess with kcm_sharing at uds-l? | 23:59 |
rbelem | txwikinger, nope | 23:59 |
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