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[17:06] <nxvl> marc: speak a little loughter i can't hear you!
[17:14] <nxvl> Marc i did
[17:14] <nxvl> Marc it's at maximum
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[17:48] <nxvl> Steve: don't do that!
[18:09] <NMinker> that's good to know
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[19:00] <SpamapS> o/
[19:01] <SpamapS> s/1000/infinite/
[19:08] <SpamapS> If anybody wants to enable juju for other distros, we welcome that contribution!
[19:10] <SpamapS> awww shucks it took at least 15 minutes
[19:12] <gua-uds> good to hear
[19:13] <SpamapS> We can most likely take that puppet code and drop it in a charm and just use it as is for testing that puppet on Ubuntu.
[19:15] <SpamapS> It is
[19:17] <marcoceppi> FYI: juju.ubuntu.com/Events
[19:18] <SpamapS> hence the ? ;)
[19:19] <SpamapS> Q: What is required for a charm school?
[19:19] <SpamapS> A: Marco
[19:20] <SpamapS> We had laptops at the CharmSchoolSV .. that was very helpful.
[19:21] <SpamapS> Good wifi / internet is a must
[19:21] <SpamapS> A prepared laptop that already has charms on it and can use the local provider w/o internet is very helpful.
[19:22] <SpamapS> LISA deadline is May 17 btw
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[19:24] <arosales> this url is still available http://event.gigaom.com/structure/speakers/speaker-proposal/
[19:25] <SpamapS> OSCON talk submitted ?
[19:26] <txwikinger> I might send in a proposal to FSOSS, Jorge
[19:26] <SpamapS> Robbie presented last year and it went GREAT
[19:26] <SpamapS> Its 90 miles south for me, I will go :)
[19:29] <SpamapS> +1
[19:30] <SpamapS> once the baby is born I can do webinars at 3am between feedings :)
[19:30] <txwikinger> yes it is senaca college in Toronto
[19:32] <arosales> Juju Charm Schools going on in  Room 205 @ UDS
[19:33] <SpamapS> One work item that I think should come out of this, I don't see on the etherpad
[19:33] <SpamapS> Improve the "How do I run my own charm school"
[19:33] <SpamapS> ^^
[19:33] <SpamapS> ^^
[19:33] <marcoceppi> +1
[19:34] <SpamapS> Have fun at lunch!
[19:35] <SpamapS> I love you too Jorge!
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[22:08] <SpamapS> o/
[22:09]  * SpamapS uses it as much as possible
[22:09] <SpamapS> Just here so that you guys don't sign me up to do the work. :)
[22:09] <broder> The lag is going to work against you :-P
[22:16] <SpamapS> Re barry's comment, I too have developed a healthy respect for the importer and almost never push anymore.
[22:20] <micahg> yes, but that partially defeats the purpose of using the VCS for the packaging changes as you lose the individual changes
[22:36] <EpikVision> geary 0.1
[22:36] <SpamapS> Can't we just change the importer to change the pointer for lp:ubuntu/$series/package to the latest imported package from that series? That would solve the merge proposal problem and doesn't sound complicated.
[22:36] <SpamapS> (regarding SRU's)
[22:40] <SpamapS> please god no per-package rules in UDD
[22:41] <SpamapS> the biggest win that UDD has is that everything is at least *supposed* to be the same per package
[22:41] <james_w> yes!
[22:42] <micahg> SpamapS: you don't always want the latest imported package when branching a stable series though
[22:42] <SpamapS> micahg: latest imported *to that series* I mean.
[22:42] <micahg> SpamapS: yes, not always what you want :)
[22:43] <SpamapS> It always is what I want. Maybe its not what *you* want because its not been verified yet. But proposed, perhaps, would be exempted from this rule.
[22:45] <micahg> SpamapS: in the event of a security update overwriting something in -proposed, you'd probably want a merge of both
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[22:58] <SpamapS> Just to recap then.. I'm not doing anything except continuing to soldier on as a UDD beta tester. :)
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[22:59] <broder> quick, give SpamapS work items!
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