| bkerensa | :D | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| bkerensa | Faqtotum: do you know how long ago phillip was on? | 00:13 |
| bkerensa | I just got back from SF | 00:13 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: You coming out to the hotel? | 00:13 |
| Faqtotum | he disconnected at 2pm | 00:14 |
| Faqtotum | what hotel? | 00:14 |
| Faqtotum | i'm in sf | 00:15 |
| bkerensa | Faqtotum: The Marriott in Oakland | 00:21 |
| bkerensa | :) | 00:21 |
| bkerensa | well if Philip pops back on can someone have him e-mail bkerensa@ubuntu.com .... wanna see if he wants to grab dinner tonight | 00:22 |
| Faqtotum | why don't you guys just exchange cell phone numbers? | 00:23 |
| bkerensa | Faqtotum: Well if I could get in touch :D | 00:24 |
| bkerensa | but his stuff is here and I dont know where he is :P | 00:24 |
| Faqtotum | heh | 00:24 |
| bkerensa | In fact if anyone sees him.... I am leaving me cell on the TV | 00:25 |
| * bkerensa goes to shower and find dinner :D | 00:25 | |
| Faqtotum | well, if none of youse'll be in sf until tomorrow, i guess i'll see ya tomorrow | 00:25 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: we must have passed each other on bart trains ;) | 00:30 |
| akk | Sigh, "Waiting for network configuration" ... I love boot-time hangs | 01:04 |
| akk | Stupid BART question: is there a page somewhere where you can get a timetable, like, what time do I need to be at station A to get to station B by time T? | 01:46 |
| akk | I'm seeing lists of times a car will be at one station, but not when that car will get anywhere else. | 01:47 |
| broder | i'm not actually convinced that BART runs on a fixed schedule | 01:47 |
| === Darkwing is now known as DarkwingUDS | ||
| akk | Oh, hmm. Well, maybe a table of approximate travel times between two stations, then? | 01:48 |
| akk | I know I can do google maps route planning, but not for more than one time at once. | 01:48 |
| jtatum | Spoiled by caltrain :) | 01:55 |
| akk | Yeah, I like those caltrain timetables. | 01:56 |
| * pleia2 wayves | 02:00 | |
| pleia2 | -y | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | #startmeeting | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | who all is here for the meeting? :) | 02:00 |
| akk | o/ | 02:00 |
| jdeslip | ! | 02:00 |
| jtatum | o/ | 02:00 |
| pleia2 | Agenda; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12May6 | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | so first up, UDS starts tomorrow! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UDS-Q | 02:01 |
| eps | o/ | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | we've gotten very good feedback to our public transportation page, so thanks to everyone who helped out there :) | 02:02 |
| pleia2 | eps: I've already given out 3 Clipper cards :) | 02:02 |
| pleia2 | refills are working well | 02:03 |
| akk | Giving blank clipper cards was a great idea! | 02:03 |
| akk | And the transit page is excellent too. | 02:03 |
| eps | they're good for 20 years, so don't toss them | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | indeed! | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | I also mentioned that in my email, people should keep them for their next visit :) | 02:04 |
| pleia2 | anyone have any comments, questions, etc about UDS? | 02:04 |
| pleia2 | I went to the hotel last night and this, nice place, and you can't beat how close it is to bart | 02:04 |
| akk | Is there a gathering point for ubuntu-cal people? Place to get "I'm a local" badges or offer to help out with anything? | 02:04 |
| pleia2 | akk: nope, it's mostly just "find pleia2" | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | I'll have all of them in my bag | 02:05 |
| akk | pleia2 is the embodiment of ubuntu-us-ca :) | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | lol | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | I try :) | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-07/ | 02:06 |
| jtatum | Hehe | 02:06 |
| pleia2 | is the schedule for tomorrow, as you can see the intro and keynote is at 9AM | 02:06 |
| pleia2 | you'll want to get there a little before that so you can go to registration and get your badge | 02:06 |
| jdeslip | Is registration only tomorrow? | 02:06 |
| pleia2 | jdeslip: nah, they'll have the table open all week | 02:07 |
| pleia2 | it's also where they'll set up the shop (they bring over goods from the canonical store to sell at UDS, very useful) | 02:07 |
| pleia2 | and you can get any other information you may need by asking the folks there | 02:08 |
| DonkeyHotei | akk: www.511.org | 02:08 |
| DonkeyHotei | akk: http://www.511.org | 02:08 |
| eps | Do we need to register for each session we want to attend? I see participants lists on the schedule. | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | feel free to grab me at UDS if you have questions too, I can usually help, or know someone who does | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | eps: no, you can just show up, the people "registered" are those who are subscribed to the blueprint (that means you'll get emailed each time it's updated throughout the next 6 months) | 02:10 |
| DarkwingUDS | pleia2: you still here at the hotel? | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | DarkwingUDS: nah, I came home | 02:10 |
| DarkwingUDS | pleia2: ahhhh. Yeah, I'm up in my room charging my phone. :D | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | :) | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | ok, see those of you who can make it at UDS this week! | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | next topic... | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | Booth at Maker Faire: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-May/001954.html | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | jdeslip: have anything to say about this one? | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | (and yes, we're getting them sorted disk-wise :)) | 02:12 |
| jdeslip | Ya. The maker faire is pretty awesome event. A lot of do-it-yourself type people there. So, I think it is a good audience to show off Linux too | 02:12 |
| jdeslip | The booth is called "Bay Area Linux Groups" and I inviting people from a few different to come | 02:13 |
| jdeslip | But, obviously we want a good showing from Ubuntu-CA see that is what people often associated Linux with these days | 02:13 |
| jdeslip | I should be able to get James, Aaditya and Philip in for free. | 02:14 |
| jdeslip | I'll send out some details in the next day or so. Please think of cool/crafty things to demo... | 02:14 |
| DonkeyHotei | eps: you got my e-mail, right? | 02:15 |
| pleia2 | great, thanks jdeslip :) | 02:15 |
| jdeslip | Ya, I guess that is about it on Maker Faire | 02:15 |
| eps | DonkeyHotei: haven't checked yet ... I've been out doing errands | 02:15 |
| pleia2 | ok, anyone else have anything? | 02:16 |
| pleia2 | oh! if anyone wants to help me with the tourism night on Wednesday I'd love to have the help :) | 02:17 |
| pleia2 | we're going bart > embarcadero > ferry building > street car to pier 39 > fisherman's wharf > ghirardelli square > cable cars back to powell (probably) | 02:17 |
| pleia2 | grabbing dinner somewhere along the way | 02:18 |
| jtatum | pleia2: I will ping work and see if I can swing that | 02:18 |
| eps | Tough call ... that, or the BAD dinner or free pizza and beer | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | jtatum: ok cool, we're planning on leaving Oakland on BART at 7PM, you can meet us anywhere | 02:18 |
| pleia2 | sessions end at 6PM, 7 gives them time to head up to their rooms to wash up/change/relax for a few minutes | 02:19 |
| pleia2 | I can't imagine our group will be more than 20 people, but even handling that will be interesting :) | 02:19 |
| jledbetter | cool | 02:20 |
| jtatum | Maybe I can convince jledbetter to join too :) | 02:20 |
| * pleia2 will be putting together a pretty PDF for the tour tonight | 02:20 | |
| pleia2 | yes yes! | 02:20 |
| jledbetter | Wednesday is hard :( | 02:21 |
| pleia2 | anyone have anything else? | 02:23 |
| eps | Maybe you can convince UDS attendees to buy Partimus earrings | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | ah yes, I'll be carrying 8 pairs with me! | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | and the business cards for the shop, in case people want to buy later | 02:24 |
| pleia2 | so you're welcome to send people to me if you find anyone who wants a pair | 02:24 |
| jtatum | Neat! | 02:25 |
| jledbetter | I dig that they have silver ones now. | 02:25 |
| pleia2 | yeah :) | 02:25 |
| pleia2 | ok, thanks everyone | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | #endmeeting | 02:26 |
| eps | You were expecting ... orange and aubergine? ;-) | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 02:26 |
| jledbetter | I don't wear gold except for stuff from my Grandma ;) | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | the europeans where laughing at "eggplant" on a dinner menu last night | 02:26 |
| jtatum | Hehe. Maybe I should cut up some vinyl u-w decals | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | I told them aubergine is too hard for us to say :) | 02:26 |
| pleia2 | jtatum: indeed you should! | 02:27 |
| pleia2 | the ubuntu women session is at noon on thursday last I checked, I'll be giving out stickers and stuff then | 02:27 |
| * pleia2 also prepared 4 "goodie bags" for UW stuff | 02:27 | |
| jledbetter | ooo | 02:28 |
| pleia2 | anyway, I need to run out to the grocery store, weekend went by too fast :) | 02:28 |
| jledbetter | See ya later, pleia2 :) | 02:28 |
| pleia2 | later all | 02:28 |
| bkerensa | :D | 02:38 |
| bkerensa | jujuc charm writing party is in progress | 02:38 |
| * philipballew pretends to know what juju's are | 02:39 | |
| bkerensa | lol | 02:39 |
| ilan | DarkwingUDS: you in town for UDS? | 02:40 |
| DarkwingUDS | ilan: yup. at the venue right now. You about? | 02:41 |
| ilan | DarkwingUDS: i will be tomorrow | 02:41 |
| ilan | and most of the week | 02:41 |
| DarkwingUDS | ilan: oh awesome... I have some things to talk to ya about. :DF | 02:41 |
| DarkwingUDS | :D | 02:41 |
| ilan | heh | 02:41 |
| ilan | ok | 02:41 |
| jdeslip | exit | 02:41 |
| ilan | DarkwingUDS: btw ron sent over some ideas for SCALE 2013. i passed them on to the list | 02:42 |
| DarkwingUDS | ilan: oh awesome. | 02:42 |
| akk | Silly me, thought I'd upgrade the laptop to pangolin the night before UDS -- upgrade failed badly. | 02:43 |
| DarkwingUDS | :D | 02:43 |
| * philipballew high fives akk | 02:44 | |
| * akk high-fives philipballew back | 02:44 | |
| akk | I love "errors were encountered while processing:" [long list of packages] | 02:45 |
| akk | um, care to give me a hint of what the errors were? | 02:45 |
| akk | "dependency problems" | 02:45 |
| akk | Ha, found it -- turns out it wanted /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh (why is it I can't have an ubuntu system without NFS services running at boot?) | 02:46 |
| DonkeyHotei | [Sun 2012-05-06 05:22:14 PM PDT] <bkerensa> well if Philip pops back on can someone have him e-mail bkerensa@ubuntu.com .... wanna see if he wants to grab dinner tonight | 02:52 |
| DonkeyHotei | philipballew: ^ | 02:52 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: He is here now... There are four of us drinking beers and writing charms | 02:53 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: care to join us? :) | 02:53 |
| DonkeyHotei | not unless you're in sf, and also i don't drink | 02:54 |
| philipballew | I dont drink DonkeyHotei Im just here with a water | 02:55 |
| philipballew | but its okay, if your in sf | 02:55 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: are u going to come to Oakland at all this week :) | 02:56 |
| DonkeyHotei | uds starts in the morning | 02:56 |
| bkerensa | all us community folk are bored while the Canonical folk party :P | 02:56 |
| DonkeyHotei | i'll go to oakland for uds | 02:56 |
| bkerensa | k | 02:57 |
| akk | DonkeyHotei: Thx for the 511 rec, btw -- though it doesn't work for me in Firefox, "an internal error occurred" when I try to plan a BART trip. | 02:57 |
| bkerensa | akk: have you checked in now? | 02:58 |
| akk | bkerensa: I live in San Jose, trying to figure out how to get to/from Oakland. | 02:58 |
| bkerensa | oh | 02:58 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: I assume you wont be coming out till tomorrow | 02:59 |
| DonkeyHotei | akk: oh well. i use chrome | 02:59 |
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| pleia2 | bkerensa: I dropped by the hotel saturday and early this evening (saw Darkwing!) but yeah, not again until tomorrow morning :) | 05:12 |
| DarkwingUDS | bkerensa: you at the hotel? | 05:16 |
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| pleia2 | off to UDS! | 14:56 |
| DonkeyHotei | oh shit, i'll be late | 14:56 |
| * ilan will head over in a bit | 14:56 | |
| DonkeyHotei | i was supposed to be half-way there by now | 14:57 |
| DonkeyHotei | gonna miss the keynote now | 14:57 |
| DonkeyHotei | :( | 14:57 |
| akk | Is there an irc channel for UDS chatter? | 16:25 |
| broder | #ubuntu-uds | 16:25 |
| akk | cool, thx | 16:26 |
| Faqtotum | at uds | 17:16 |
| gua-uds | Faqtotum, hi5 | 17:16 |
| gua-uds | i'm in apt improvements | 17:16 |
| === itnet7 is now known as itnet7_uds | ||
| philipballew | Community roundtable | 17:16 |
| Faqtotum | i'm in kernel roundtable | 17:18 |
| Faqtotum | no one has a mic, annoying | 17:18 |
| gua-uds | make sure people get "i'm local" pins from pleia2. i didn't have one and i was viscously pinned | 17:18 |
| pleia2 | lol | 17:18 |
| pleia2 | I have 5 left :) | 17:18 |
| gua-uds | aha | 17:18 |
| gua-uds | hi pleia2 ! | 17:18 |
| gua-uds | need more pins | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | haha, I was worreid 15 would be too many | 17:19 |
| Faqtotum | i haven't run into pleia2 yet | 17:19 |
| EpikVision | me neither | 17:21 |
| Faqtotum | pleia2: where are you atm, btw? | 17:33 |
| pleia2 | community roundtable | 17:34 |
| * MarkDude needs a pin that says *Im local, dude* | 17:35 | |
| Faqtotum | i'll grab 2 of them in a sec | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | 2? | 17:36 |
| * MarkDude does not need a pin :) | 17:36 | |
| pleia2 | I only have 5 left, I can't really give out multiples | 17:36 |
| * MarkDude needs to get down to UDS, but is having to take care of more errands now | 17:37 | |
| Faqtotum | pleia2: community roundtable is not in the downloaded schedule; what room? | 17:39 |
| philipballew | 201 Faqtotum | 17:40 |
| MarkDude | What day is the intrusive CoC talk scheduled? | 17:41 |
| * MarkDude is concerned that will hamper Ubuntu's progress | 17:42 | |
| pleia2 | er, that was at the community council meeting on the 3rd | 17:42 |
| philipballew | MarkDude, only enhances it! | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | some revisions have been posted based on the feedback we recieved, I didn't see the email from you, did you send one for the discussion? | 17:43 |
| MarkDude | Well no | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | can you, so we can include it? | 17:43 |
| MarkDude | And still not sure I should fully enter this discussion :) | 17:43 |
| MarkDude | I can, | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 17:43 |
| MarkDude | I have just had a few express doubts and possible willingness to leave over CoC controling personal life | 17:44 |
| MarkDude | Which list ? | 17:44 |
| MarkDude | Is the talk on | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/16/code-of-conduct-update/ is the announcement with details, the emails were collected here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski/CoCFeedback | 17:47 |
| * pleia2 off to next session | 17:47 | |
| MarkDude | ty :) | 17:47 |
| Faqtotum | MarkDude: eps asked about geeknic | 17:48 |
| MarkDude | soon | 17:49 |
| * MarkDude has a few matters to take care of 1st | 17:50 | |
| MarkDude | Well if the discussion happened on the 3rd, maybe there is no point in me adding my voice | 17:58 |
| * MarkDude thinks it will apear as sour grapes | 17:58 | |
| MarkDude | Looks bad tho | 17:59 |
| MarkDude | Yep, not going to disturb the hornets nest. I reserve the right to hold a few things more important than the Distro I use. And let people choose their own path :) | 18:01 |
| gua-uds | MarkDude: boo | 18:02 |
| gua-uds | MarkDude: dissent is crucial for.. collaboration | 18:03 |
| gua-uds | or something | 18:03 |
| MarkDude | Well I got slapped down last time for doing so, and also had my full name (and 3 others) put on public record | 18:03 |
| MarkDude | Even tho what I had originally suggested was FULLY IMPLEMENTED, I got raked over the coals | 18:04 |
| MarkDude | And near as I can tell, the new CoC makes an effort to stop dissent | 18:05 |
| gua-uds | hmm maybe you speaking up made it turn out that way | 18:05 |
| MarkDude | lol, well..... thats for people to decide | 18:05 |
| gua-uds | well i dunno, no one but you is the most likely to voice what you think needs being voiced | 18:05 |
| gua-uds | discussions are no fun if everyone agrees | 18:05 |
| MarkDude | Well the talk happened on the 3rd | 18:05 |
| gua-uds | ah hm | 18:06 |
| greg-g | MarkDude: there was a revision made by mark to the CoC post-that meeting | 18:14 |
| greg-g | MarkDude: not sure if fully meets my requirements (and the last sentence feels a little too "we are the one true party" to me) | 18:14 |
| greg-g | rev 24 of that bzr branch, btw | 18:14 |
| MarkDude | no doubt | 18:18 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: when u coming? | 18:21 |
| bkerensa | nhaines: u coming? | 18:22 |
| MarkDude | Meeting up with Bethany in a few, then we are taking bart over | 18:25 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: uhh cool hmm will be good to see u | 18:26 |
| MarkDude | Will be good to see you too bkerensa | 18:27 |
| * MarkDude will be going a few more days | 18:27 | |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:27 |
| MarkDude | Hopefully I can be there early tomorrow | 18:27 |
| * MarkDude has a CM meeting in SF in morning | 18:27 | |
| bkerensa | if u hurry u might make lunch | 18:27 |
| bkerensa | I was in SF all day yesterday | 18:28 |
| * MarkDude was there for a while- then went to Walnut Creek | 18:29 | |
| MarkDude | Well if some people ASK me to speak out on the CoC thing, I will. Otherwise - the more I think about it, the more I think its NOT my business | 18:35 |
| MarkDude | No need to make waves :) | 18:35 |
| greg-g | MarkDude: why not your business? | 18:38 |
| greg-g | are you an Ubuntu Member or do you want to participate in the community? | 18:38 |
| greg-g | then I say it is damn well your business | 18:38 |
| MarkDude | Well, I am | 18:38 |
| greg-g | which is why I went to the CC meeting and voiced my concerns directly | 18:38 |
| MarkDude | My 1st association is Ubuntu Women | 18:39 |
| MarkDude | then comes Fedora | 18:39 |
| MarkDude | Then other stuff in Ubuntu | 18:39 |
| MarkDude | Well 1st is FOSS and Linux | 18:39 |
| * MarkDude is in leadership in Fedora, so I am concerned about how it might appear | 18:39 | |
| greg-g | ahhh, I see | 18:41 |
| MarkDude | There are too many people attacking Ubuntu at the moment | 18:42 |
| greg-g | well, I think an outsider's perspective would be useful, as well | 18:42 |
| MarkDude | and not in productive manner | 18:42 |
| MarkDude | Just plain attacking | 18:42 |
| greg-g | MarkDude: maybe for good reason? I'm not sure, but I want criticism to be OK, that is the only way things improve. | 18:42 |
| greg-g | yeah, that's true, that stuff is lame | 18:42 |
| gua-uds | MarkDude: well as long as you're not doin that, should be fine | 18:43 |
| MarkDude | Well, I will see how folks feel at UDS | 18:43 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:43 |
| MarkDude | part of the reason I advocated my thoughts a while ago, was BECAUSE I was aksed by others to give voice to their concerns also | 18:43 |
| MarkDude | Sorta like Ubuntu Oregon | 18:44 |
| * MarkDude offered to help advocate for them on a matter that was offensive | 18:44 | |
| MarkDude | bkerensa, and the rest of the group were of with it, so I dropped it | 18:44 |
| MarkDude | Sorta need to see how people feel, no need to be standing by oneself | 18:45 |
| greg-g | ...unless you're right. | 18:47 |
| greg-g | ;) | 18:47 |
| MarkDude | Well when I left, I partially gae up that right. | 18:49 |
| MarkDude | So thats why I think it applies more if people WANT me to | 18:49 |
| MarkDude | I am fighting against creation of a CoC in Fedora now | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | Mostly on my own :) | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | They have a SIMPLE guiding principle: "Be excellent to each other" :) | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | Pretty much covers it all | 18:51 |
| * MarkDude needs to see when he wil get there | 18:51 | |
| MarkDude | Time to get ready | 18:51 |
| DarkwingUDS | When are you showing up MarkDude? | 18:52 |
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| Faqtotum | philipballew: are you in Hall East? | 21:50 |
| philipballew | Faqtotum, im listening to marco | 21:52 |
| philipballew | is that hall east? | 21:52 |
| Faqtotum | yeah, i'm right behind pleia2 if you see us | 21:52 |
| * philipballew sees Faqtotum at his 2 | 21:55 | |
| philipballew | im at your 8 probably | 21:56 |
| Faqtotum | are you wearing green? | 21:57 |
| philipballew | yeah! a green striped shirt | 21:58 |
| Faqtotum | longer hair than before | 21:59 |
| === DrStrangelove is now known as Faqtotum | ||
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