[00:13] :D [00:13] Faqtotum: do you know how long ago phillip was on? [00:13] I just got back from SF [00:13] DonkeyHotei: You coming out to the hotel? [00:14] he disconnected at 2pm [00:14] what hotel? [00:15] i'm in sf [00:21] Faqtotum: The Marriott in Oakland [00:21] :) [00:22] well if Philip pops back on can someone have him e-mail bkerensa@ubuntu.com .... wanna see if he wants to grab dinner tonight [00:23] why don't you guys just exchange cell phone numbers? [00:24] Faqtotum: Well if I could get in touch :D [00:24] but his stuff is here and I dont know where he is :P [00:24] heh [00:25] In fact if anyone sees him.... I am leaving me cell on the TV [00:25] * bkerensa goes to shower and find dinner :D [00:25] well, if none of youse'll be in sf until tomorrow, i guess i'll see ya tomorrow [00:30] bkerensa: we must have passed each other on bart trains ;) [01:04] Sigh, "Waiting for network configuration" ... I love boot-time hangs [01:46] Stupid BART question: is there a page somewhere where you can get a timetable, like, what time do I need to be at station A to get to station B by time T? [01:47] I'm seeing lists of times a car will be at one station, but not when that car will get anywhere else. [01:47] i'm not actually convinced that BART runs on a fixed schedule === Darkwing is now known as DarkwingUDS [01:48] Oh, hmm. Well, maybe a table of approximate travel times between two stations, then? [01:48] I know I can do google maps route planning, but not for more than one time at once. [01:55] Spoiled by caltrain :) [01:56] Yeah, I like those caltrain timetables. [02:00] * pleia2 wayves [02:00] -y [02:00] #startmeeting [02:00] who all is here for the meeting? :) [02:00] o/ [02:00] ! [02:00] o/ [02:01] Agenda; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12May6 [02:01] so first up, UDS starts tomorrow! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UDS-Q [02:01] o/ [02:02] we've gotten very good feedback to our public transportation page, so thanks to everyone who helped out there :) [02:02] eps: I've already given out 3 Clipper cards :) [02:03] refills are working well [02:03] Giving blank clipper cards was a great idea! [02:03] And the transit page is excellent too. [02:03] they're good for 20 years, so don't toss them [02:03] indeed! [02:04] I also mentioned that in my email, people should keep them for their next visit :) [02:04] anyone have any comments, questions, etc about UDS? [02:04] I went to the hotel last night and this, nice place, and you can't beat how close it is to bart [02:04] Is there a gathering point for ubuntu-cal people? Place to get "I'm a local" badges or offer to help out with anything? [02:05] akk: nope, it's mostly just "find pleia2" [02:05] I'll have all of them in my bag [02:05] pleia2 is the embodiment of ubuntu-us-ca :) [02:05] lol [02:05] I try :) [02:06] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-07/ [02:06] Hehe [02:06] is the schedule for tomorrow, as you can see the intro and keynote is at 9AM [02:06] you'll want to get there a little before that so you can go to registration and get your badge [02:06] Is registration only tomorrow? [02:07] jdeslip: nah, they'll have the table open all week [02:07] it's also where they'll set up the shop (they bring over goods from the canonical store to sell at UDS, very useful) [02:08] and you can get any other information you may need by asking the folks there [02:08] akk: www.511.org [02:08] akk: http://www.511.org [02:09] Do we need to register for each session we want to attend? I see participants lists on the schedule. [02:10] feel free to grab me at UDS if you have questions too, I can usually help, or know someone who does [02:10] eps: no, you can just show up, the people "registered" are those who are subscribed to the blueprint (that means you'll get emailed each time it's updated throughout the next 6 months) [02:10] pleia2: you still here at the hotel? [02:10] DarkwingUDS: nah, I came home [02:11] pleia2: ahhhh. Yeah, I'm up in my room charging my phone. :D [02:11] :) [02:11] ok, see those of you who can make it at UDS this week! [02:11] next topic... [02:11] Booth at Maker Faire: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-May/001954.html [02:11] jdeslip: have anything to say about this one? [02:12] (and yes, we're getting them sorted disk-wise :)) [02:12] Ya. The maker faire is pretty awesome event. A lot of do-it-yourself type people there. So, I think it is a good audience to show off Linux too [02:13] The booth is called "Bay Area Linux Groups" and I inviting people from a few different to come [02:13] But, obviously we want a good showing from Ubuntu-CA see that is what people often associated Linux with these days [02:14] I should be able to get James, Aaditya and Philip in for free. [02:14] I'll send out some details in the next day or so. Please think of cool/crafty things to demo... [02:15] eps: you got my e-mail, right? [02:15] great, thanks jdeslip :) [02:15] Ya, I guess that is about it on Maker Faire [02:15] DonkeyHotei: haven't checked yet ... I've been out doing errands [02:16] ok, anyone else have anything? [02:17] oh! if anyone wants to help me with the tourism night on Wednesday I'd love to have the help :) [02:17] we're going bart > embarcadero > ferry building > street car to pier 39 > fisherman's wharf > ghirardelli square > cable cars back to powell (probably) [02:18] grabbing dinner somewhere along the way [02:18] pleia2: I will ping work and see if I can swing that [02:18] Tough call ... that, or the BAD dinner or free pizza and beer [02:18] jtatum: ok cool, we're planning on leaving Oakland on BART at 7PM, you can meet us anywhere [02:19] sessions end at 6PM, 7 gives them time to head up to their rooms to wash up/change/relax for a few minutes [02:19] I can't imagine our group will be more than 20 people, but even handling that will be interesting :) [02:20] cool [02:20] Maybe I can convince jledbetter to join too :) [02:20] * pleia2 will be putting together a pretty PDF for the tour tonight [02:20] yes yes! [02:21] Wednesday is hard :( [02:23] anyone have anything else? [02:24] Maybe you can convince UDS attendees to buy Partimus earrings [02:24] ah yes, I'll be carrying 8 pairs with me! [02:24] and the business cards for the shop, in case people want to buy later [02:24] so you're welcome to send people to me if you find anyone who wants a pair [02:25] Neat! [02:25] I dig that they have silver ones now. [02:25] yeah :) [02:26] ok, thanks everyone [02:26] #endmeeting [02:26] You were expecting ... orange and aubergine? ;-) [02:26] hehe [02:26] I don't wear gold except for stuff from my Grandma ;) [02:26] the europeans where laughing at "eggplant" on a dinner menu last night [02:26] Hehe. Maybe I should cut up some vinyl u-w decals [02:26] I told them aubergine is too hard for us to say :) [02:27] jtatum: indeed you should! [02:27] the ubuntu women session is at noon on thursday last I checked, I'll be giving out stickers and stuff then [02:27] * pleia2 also prepared 4 "goodie bags" for UW stuff [02:28] ooo [02:28] anyway, I need to run out to the grocery store, weekend went by too fast :) [02:28] See ya later, pleia2 :) [02:28] later all [02:38] :D [02:38] jujuc charm writing party is in progress [02:39] * philipballew pretends to know what juju's are [02:39] lol [02:40] DarkwingUDS: you in town for UDS? [02:41] ilan: yup. at the venue right now. You about? [02:41] DarkwingUDS: i will be tomorrow [02:41] and most of the week [02:41] ilan: oh awesome... I have some things to talk to ya about. :DF [02:41] :D [02:41] heh [02:41] ok [02:41] exit [02:42] DarkwingUDS: btw ron sent over some ideas for SCALE 2013. i passed them on to the list [02:42] ilan: oh awesome. [02:43] Silly me, thought I'd upgrade the laptop to pangolin the night before UDS -- upgrade failed badly. [02:43] :D [02:44] * philipballew high fives akk [02:44] * akk high-fives philipballew back [02:45] I love "errors were encountered while processing:" [long list of packages] [02:45] um, care to give me a hint of what the errors were? [02:45] "dependency problems" [02:46] Ha, found it -- turns out it wanted /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh (why is it I can't have an ubuntu system without NFS services running at boot?) [02:52] [Sun 2012-05-06 05:22:14 PM PDT] well if Philip pops back on can someone have him e-mail bkerensa@ubuntu.com .... wanna see if he wants to grab dinner tonight [02:52] philipballew: ^ [02:53] DonkeyHotei: He is here now... There are four of us drinking beers and writing charms [02:53] DonkeyHotei: care to join us? :) [02:54] not unless you're in sf, and also i don't drink [02:55] I dont drink DonkeyHotei Im just here with a water [02:55] but its okay, if your in sf [02:56] DonkeyHotei: are u going to come to Oakland at all this week :) [02:56] uds starts in the morning [02:56] all us community folk are bored while the Canonical folk party :P [02:56] i'll go to oakland for uds [02:57] k [02:57] DonkeyHotei: Thx for the 511 rec, btw -- though it doesn't work for me in Firefox, "an internal error occurred" when I try to plan a BART trip. [02:58] akk: have you checked in now? [02:58] bkerensa: I live in San Jose, trying to figure out how to get to/from Oakland. [02:58] oh [02:59] pleia2: I assume you wont be coming out till tomorrow [02:59] akk: oh well. i use chrome === ilan_ is now known as ilan [05:12] bkerensa: I dropped by the hotel saturday and early this evening (saw Darkwing!) but yeah, not again until tomorrow morning :) [05:16] bkerensa: you at the hotel? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Website: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, May 20th, 7:00pm PDT | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic === ilan_ is now known as ilan === ilan_ is now known as ilan === ilan_ is now known as ilan === ilan_ is now known as ilan [14:56] off to UDS! [14:56] oh shit, i'll be late [14:56] * ilan will head over in a bit [14:57] i was supposed to be half-way there by now [14:57] gonna miss the keynote now [14:57] :( [16:25] Is there an irc channel for UDS chatter? [16:25] #ubuntu-uds [16:26] cool, thx [17:16] at uds [17:16] Faqtotum, hi5 [17:16] i'm in apt improvements === itnet7 is now known as itnet7_uds [17:16] Community roundtable [17:18] i'm in kernel roundtable [17:18] no one has a mic, annoying [17:18] make sure people get "i'm local" pins from pleia2. i didn't have one and i was viscously pinned [17:18] lol [17:18] I have 5 left :) [17:18] aha [17:18] hi pleia2 ! [17:19] need more pins [17:19] haha, I was worreid 15 would be too many [17:19] i haven't run into pleia2 yet [17:21] me neither [17:33] pleia2: where are you atm, btw? [17:34] community roundtable [17:35] * MarkDude needs a pin that says *Im local, dude* [17:35] i'll grab 2 of them in a sec [17:36] 2? [17:36] * MarkDude does not need a pin :) [17:36] I only have 5 left, I can't really give out multiples [17:37] * MarkDude needs to get down to UDS, but is having to take care of more errands now [17:39] pleia2: community roundtable is not in the downloaded schedule; what room? [17:40] 201 Faqtotum [17:41] What day is the intrusive CoC talk scheduled? [17:42] * MarkDude is concerned that will hamper Ubuntu's progress [17:42] er, that was at the community council meeting on the 3rd [17:42] MarkDude, only enhances it! [17:43] some revisions have been posted based on the feedback we recieved, I didn't see the email from you, did you send one for the discussion? [17:43] Well no [17:43] can you, so we can include it? [17:43] And still not sure I should fully enter this discussion :) [17:43] I can, [17:43] thanks [17:44] I have just had a few express doubts and possible willingness to leave over CoC controling personal life [17:44] Which list ? [17:45] Is the talk on [17:47] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/16/code-of-conduct-update/ is the announcement with details, the emails were collected here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski/CoCFeedback [17:47] * pleia2 off to next session [17:47] ty :) [17:48] MarkDude: eps asked about geeknic [17:49] soon [17:50] * MarkDude has a few matters to take care of 1st [17:58] Well if the discussion happened on the 3rd, maybe there is no point in me adding my voice [17:58] * MarkDude thinks it will apear as sour grapes [17:59] Looks bad tho [18:01] Yep, not going to disturb the hornets nest. I reserve the right to hold a few things more important than the Distro I use. And let people choose their own path :) [18:02] MarkDude: boo [18:03] MarkDude: dissent is crucial for.. collaboration [18:03] or something [18:03] Well I got slapped down last time for doing so, and also had my full name (and 3 others) put on public record [18:04] Even tho what I had originally suggested was FULLY IMPLEMENTED, I got raked over the coals [18:05] And near as I can tell, the new CoC makes an effort to stop dissent [18:05] hmm maybe you speaking up made it turn out that way [18:05] lol, well..... thats for people to decide [18:05] well i dunno, no one but you is the most likely to voice what you think needs being voiced [18:05] discussions are no fun if everyone agrees [18:05] Well the talk happened on the 3rd [18:06] ah hm [18:14] MarkDude: there was a revision made by mark to the CoC post-that meeting [18:14] MarkDude: not sure if fully meets my requirements (and the last sentence feels a little too "we are the one true party" to me) [18:14] rev 24 of that bzr branch, btw [18:18] no doubt [18:21] MarkDude: when u coming? [18:22] nhaines: u coming? [18:25] Meeting up with Bethany in a few, then we are taking bart over [18:26] MarkDude: uhh cool hmm will be good to see u [18:27] Will be good to see you too bkerensa [18:27] * MarkDude will be going a few more days [18:27] :D [18:27] Hopefully I can be there early tomorrow [18:27] * MarkDude has a CM meeting in SF in morning [18:27] if u hurry u might make lunch [18:28] I was in SF all day yesterday [18:29] * MarkDude was there for a while- then went to Walnut Creek [18:35] Well if some people ASK me to speak out on the CoC thing, I will. Otherwise - the more I think about it, the more I think its NOT my business [18:35] No need to make waves :) [18:38] MarkDude: why not your business? [18:38] are you an Ubuntu Member or do you want to participate in the community? [18:38] then I say it is damn well your business [18:38] Well, I am [18:38] which is why I went to the CC meeting and voiced my concerns directly [18:39] My 1st association is Ubuntu Women [18:39] then comes Fedora [18:39] Then other stuff in Ubuntu [18:39] Well 1st is FOSS and Linux [18:39] * MarkDude is in leadership in Fedora, so I am concerned about how it might appear [18:41] ahhh, I see [18:42] There are too many people attacking Ubuntu at the moment [18:42] well, I think an outsider's perspective would be useful, as well [18:42] and not in productive manner [18:42] Just plain attacking [18:42] MarkDude: maybe for good reason? I'm not sure, but I want criticism to be OK, that is the only way things improve. [18:42] yeah, that's true, that stuff is lame [18:43] MarkDude: well as long as you're not doin that, should be fine [18:43] Well, I will see how folks feel at UDS [18:43] :) [18:43] part of the reason I advocated my thoughts a while ago, was BECAUSE I was aksed by others to give voice to their concerns also [18:44] Sorta like Ubuntu Oregon [18:44] * MarkDude offered to help advocate for them on a matter that was offensive [18:44] bkerensa, and the rest of the group were of with it, so I dropped it [18:45] Sorta need to see how people feel, no need to be standing by oneself [18:47] ...unless you're right. [18:47] ;) [18:49] Well when I left, I partially gae up that right. [18:49] So thats why I think it applies more if people WANT me to [18:50] I am fighting against creation of a CoC in Fedora now [18:50] Mostly on my own :) [18:50] They have a SIMPLE guiding principle: "Be excellent to each other" :) [18:51] Pretty much covers it all [18:51] * MarkDude needs to see when he wil get there [18:51] Time to get ready [18:52] When are you showing up MarkDude? === DrStrangelove is now known as Faqtotum [21:50] philipballew: are you in Hall East? [21:52] Faqtotum, im listening to marco [21:52] is that hall east? [21:52] yeah, i'm right behind pleia2 if you see us [21:55] * philipballew sees Faqtotum at his 2 [21:56] im at your 8 probably [21:57] are you wearing green? [21:58] yeah! a green striped shirt [21:59] longer hair than before === DrStrangelove is now known as Faqtotum