[04:41] <Zephyron> hello, anyone there?
[05:48] <ochosi> morning everyone
[09:00] <baizon> any news when xfce 4.10 will land in the xfce-dev ppa?
[09:01] <ochosi> it seems that the build in mr_pouit's ppa is fairly complete, so it won't be too long i guess
[09:01] <ochosi> (i'm using that now and it works great so far)
[09:01] <baizon> ok
[09:01] <baizon> thanks
[09:01] <ochosi> np
[09:04] <mr_pouit> I need to solve an upgrade issue first, apt holds back xfce4-session, xfce4-appfinder and xubuntu-desktop by default
[09:05] <ochosi> true, but on a second upgrade it upgrades these as well
[09:05] <ochosi> (without issues it seems)
[09:05] <mr_pouit> yeah, but that's not optimal ;-)
[09:05] <ochosi> agreed ;)
[09:05] <ochosi> just sayin, it ain't that bad
[09:13] <ochosi> would you guys agree that this is (too) hard to read? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05072012-111314am.php
[10:37] <knome> ochosi, heh, yeah, it's not optimal
[10:37] <knome> ochosi, readable at least for me, but not optimal
[10:37] <knome> ochosi, same as the orange warning
[11:09] <ochosi> knome: already fixed it in git
[11:09] <knome> mm-hmm
[11:09] <ochosi> i'm wondering though whether i should make the button blend in with the infobar
[11:10] <ochosi> like this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05072012-011001pm.php
[11:10] <knome> huh!
[11:10] <knome> no
[11:10] <knome> that's quite ugly
[11:11] <ochosi> not sure i'd really say it's ugly
[11:11] <ochosi> but anyway, i don't have time for this now
[11:15] <knome> well imo it is ;)
[11:16] <ochosi> have you found time to test the social icons on x.org?
[11:16] <knome> not yet :|
[11:16] <knome> maybe soon, but it's still under *huge* caching :<
[11:21] <ochosi> btw, it seems that audience
[11:21] <ochosi> gah
[11:21] <knome> heh
[11:21] <ochosi> audience's use of clutter slows it down quite a bit
[11:21] <knome> :/
[11:21] <ochosi> in average, around 15% more cpu usage than parole
[11:21] <ochosi> even though both use the same backend (gstreamer)
[11:21] <knome> bleh
[11:21] <ochosi> on the plus-side, it has a codec-detection + install dialog
[11:22] <ochosi> which would be desirable for parole as well
[11:23] <knome> 15% more cpu, but about how much in exact numbers
[11:23] <ochosi> that other gnome-project i put on the roadmap also uses clutter iirc, so it might have similar issues
[11:23] <knome> i mean, how much processing power is that
[11:23] <ochosi> that depends on many variables, e.g. whether vdpau was in use with my nvidia-driver
[11:23] <ochosi> so i'm not sure
[11:24] <ochosi> but it was ~15% of one my two cores
[11:24] <ochosi> in total ~40% audience-process and ~20% Xorg
[11:24] <ochosi> with parole: 35% parole-process and 10% Xorg
[11:25] <knome> hmm.
[11:25] <ochosi> that was an "average" video in ~720p
[11:25] <ochosi> avi, but i
[11:25] <ochosi> 'm not sure what compression
[11:25] <ochosi>  /codec
[11:26] <ochosi> btw, i'm wondering whether i should change the fg-color of the infobar to white
[11:27] <ochosi> like this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05072012-012708pm.php
[11:27] <ochosi> it's a bit more "in your face" than the dark fg color though
[11:33] <knome> mmhmm
[11:46] <jpff> hi -- just a moment
[11:48] <jpff> Sorry -- wrong window
[20:03] <knome> pleia2, which session are you going to attend one hour later?
[20:07] <knome> oh, wait
[20:07] <knome> crap
[20:07] <knome> nvm...
[20:08] <knome> i mean, 4 hours later
[20:08] <knome> ;)
[20:08] <knome> might be a bit too late for me though...
[21:01] <pleia2> knome: what time? :)
[21:01] <knome> pleia2, 17pdt
[21:02] <knome> pleia2, in 3 hours
[21:02] <pleia2> was planning on App Developer events because I do Classroom stuff, why?
[21:02] <knome> nah, just asking :)
[21:02] <knome> whether i might be able to hear your sweet voice or not
[21:03] <pleia2> hehe
[21:03] <knome> but as i said, 3am might be bit too much for me
[21:04] <knome> at least if i really wanted to contribute to the session
[21:04] <knome> (iso tracker improvements)
[21:04] <Unit193> Ah.
[21:14] <knome> Unit193, googling points to a "suspended" page
[21:16] <Unit193> knome: That's one weird version reply...
[21:18] <knome> have you noticed none of singlerr's or single's questions make sense at first?
[21:19] <Unit193> That's why I left to you after mini.
[21:19] <Unit193> Seems to want openbox, but not sure how to use it. :/
[21:20] <MrMkS> Hi!
[21:21] <knome> MrMkS, hey
[21:21] <MrMkS> I want to host a Xubuntu mirror
[21:21] <knome> MrMkS, you are the one who sent the email?
[21:21] <MrMkS> Right now i host a Ubuntu official mirror
[21:21] <MrMkS> which email ?
[21:21] <Unit193> I'd think not on the GeoIP.
[21:21] <knome> MrMkS, email to the xubuntu-devel mailing list about hosting a xubuntu mirror?
[22:59] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[23:00] <SATop> hi
[23:00] <Schrodinger`Cat> i would like to know if there is a ppa to get xfce4.8 stable 
[23:00] <Schrodinger`Cat> or need to wait https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 is up ?
[23:00] <SATop> 4.10 you mean ?
[23:00] <Schrodinger`Cat> yes
[23:01] <Schrodinger`Cat> 4.10
[23:02] <Schrodinger`Cat> because the ppa of mrpouit https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa is still with 4.10 beta
[23:04] <SATop> i know there is an empty ppa for 4.10 so i guess they are working on it 
[23:04] <knome> it's going to be out "later", but no ETA
[23:05] <SATop> we can make a guess based on the unkown available time of devs and their system abilities 
[23:06] <SATop> :P
[23:07] <SATop> you can also try to build it yourself http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/building
[23:07] <SATop>  
[23:09]  * knome is off
[23:16] <SATop> schrodinger that ppa says (Please note that packages will be moved to https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 in a few hours)
[23:27] <Schrodinger`Cat> ok thanks