| AxD09 | might have to check the logs | 00:00 |
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| GridCube | no dice? | 00:00 |
| GeminiDomino | Been doing that | 00:00 |
| GeminiDomino | Doesn't seem to be anything in the X.org log to tell me what's going on... | 00:00 |
| GeminiDomino | GridCube: Means it didn't work | 00:00 |
| GridCube | you already tried gdm? | 00:01 |
| GridCube | that was fast | 00:01 |
| AxD09 | dmesg? | 00:01 |
| GridCube | well don't know then | 00:01 |
| GeminiDomino | GridCube: Yep, already replaced lightdm | 00:01 |
| GeminiDomino | AxD09: A bunch of nouveau spam but nothing that looks like an error | 00:01 |
| AxD09 | wonder if blacklisting nouveau or install the official drivers would help | 00:02 |
| GeminiDomino | AxD09: That's my thought... Damn nouveau has been a ballbuster on a bunch of boxen and distros for me for over a year now. :P | 00:03 |
| AxD09 | I love linux setups, but the tweaks. My god, the tweaks and fixes. | 00:04 |
| GeminiDomino | Normally I'm okay with that | 00:04 |
| GeminiDomino | but making something so flaky a default just makes me facepalm. :P | 00:04 |
| AxD09 | eh, it's the way things are nowadays unless you want something a bit harder to setup. | 00:05 |
| GeminiDomino | Harder to setup isn't a problem. Maintain, on the other hand... | 00:07 |
| GeminiDomino | if it wasn't for having to maintain three dozen boxen, I'd still be using Slack. :) | 00:07 |
| GridCube | i havnet had that many problems actually | 00:10 |
| AxD09 | Let's hope the wifi card works :) | 00:10 |
| AxD09 | It's crazy how common the broadcoms are, yet the give people so much trouble | 00:11 |
| GeminiDomino | Yeah. Got that working, thank the maker | 00:11 |
| GeminiDomino | Okay... used jockey-text to install nvidia, blacklisted nouveau... rebooting now. Here goes nothin' | 00:13 |
| GeminiDomino | Damn it | 00:14 |
| GeminiDomino | now I get a glimpse of the nvidia splash screen before it goes back to gdm | 00:14 |
| GeminiDomino | So it's not lightdm and not nouveau | 00:15 |
| GeminiDomino | joy | 00:15 |
| AxD09 | you dont need a login manager to start xfce, right? | 00:16 |
| GridCube | nope | 00:17 |
| GeminiDomino | nope | 00:17 |
| GeminiDomino | found something interesting in auth.conf tho | 00:17 |
| AxD09 | well yea, was more of a suggestion | 00:17 |
| GeminiDomino | "nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0" ? | 00:17 |
| AxD09 | hmm | 00:20 |
| AxD09 | http://skralljt.info/?p=586 | 00:20 |
| GeminiDomino | Looks like iut might be PAM screwing with me | 00:20 |
| GeminiDomino | nope. | 00:21 |
| AxD09 | the link? | 00:21 |
| GeminiDomino | Yeah, changed the perms but no help there | 00:21 |
| GeminiDomino | same messages in auth.log | 00:22 |
| AxD09 | forum link that seems related. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1921178&page=2 | 00:22 |
| AxD09 | but you dont even get a login screen? | 00:22 |
| GeminiDomino | No, I get the login screen. Once I login, it flashes the Nvidia logo (so it's using the right driver) then goes black and dumps me back to the login | 00:23 |
| AxD09 | the login screen or a tty login? | 00:23 |
| GeminiDomino | GDM login | 00:23 |
| AxD09 | so infinite gdm login? | 00:23 |
| GeminiDomino | yeah | 00:24 |
| AxD09 | I've had my system repeat the login once or twice before, but then it kicked out of it. | 00:24 |
| GeminiDomino | I've tried it up to 5. No change. :P | 00:24 |
| AxD09 | did you try a new user account? | 00:25 |
| GeminiDomino | ... | 00:26 |
| GeminiDomino | Of course. | 00:26 |
| GeminiDomino | That works. Pardon me a moment. I'm going to go put my head through the wall | 00:26 |
| AxD09 | well im no expert, just putting out randon ideas | 00:26 |
| GeminiDomino | Well yeah. We used up the ideas that made sense some time ago and were into the "blindly flailing" stages. : | 00:27 |
| GeminiDomino | :) | 00:27 |
| GeminiDomino | Guess I put too much faith in the installer not to screw up something as mind-meltingly complex as creating a user... <_< | 00:28 |
| AxD09 | googling like crazy but my connection is slooow | 00:28 |
| AxD09 | one more idea. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9511307 | 00:28 |
| GeminiDomino | No, you were right | 00:28 |
| GeminiDomino | creating a new user worked | 00:29 |
| GeminiDomino | so I just blew out the homedir and it's working | 00:29 |
| AxD09 | ha, no idea. Blind fumbling... | 00:29 |
| GeminiDomino | I appreciate the fumbling along with me. | 00:29 |
| AxD09 | no prob, love helping | 00:29 |
| GeminiDomino | Now I get to go do the actual post-install tweaking. Much obliged. Thanks | 00:30 |
| AxD09 | good luck | 00:30 |
| not_found | hi all... I heard this channel is so awesome you would even be able to assist me with some Unity issues I have? | 00:37 |
| knome | nope. #ubuntu for unity | 00:37 |
| wildmanne39 | hi, does anyone know how to fix this error (xfdesktop:1814): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_server_set_root: assertion `DBUSMENU_IS_MENUITEM(root)' failed? I googled it but it did not show anything that would help | 00:37 |
| not_found | knome: :( I guess I was misinformed | 00:37 |
| wildmanne39 | not_found, lol | 00:38 |
| not_found | :p just messing with you all... keep up the awesome work all :) | 00:38 |
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| jpff | Hi all: Is there a list of known problems with the gcc in 12.04? I have codethat runs OK on otherLinux releases but is odd on xubuntu | 09:31 |
| GeminiDomino | Just a quick check: has the 10.04->12.04 update showed up on the update manager yet? My VM isn't showing it and I just want to make sure nothing's buggered. :) | 10:08 |
| mips1911 | I woudl not upgrade to 12.04, rather do a clean install. | 10:09 |
| hobgoblin | afaik the upgrade to 12.04 will not show until it's 12.04.1 - read it somewhere yesterday | 10:09 |
| hobgoblin | though that 'might' be for servers | 10:10 |
| GeminiDomino | hobgoblin: Makes sense. | 10:10 |
| GeminiDomino | On the servers, I'm doing clean installs. Figured I'd test it out on a VM I can backup, on the off chance it saves me having to re-tweak the whole damn thing. :) | 10:11 |
| hobgoblin | I upgraded 3 machines with no problems - though they were all 11.10 installs | 10:11 |
| jpff | so no one knows about compilation problems? | 10:20 |
| ochosi | jpff: so far i haven't encountered any, but i haven't compiled much yet in precise | 10:20 |
| ochosi | you might wanna wait for someone else or ask on the mailinglist | 10:22 |
| ochosi | that might be more efficient | 10:22 |
| jpff | Thanks. Will try the mailing list | 10:23 |
| Carpe|Diem | HEllo everyone | 11:16 |
| Carpe|Diem | I'm trying to lock down my xubuntu, so that users basicaly only see a few icons on their desktop and thats it | 11:16 |
| Carpe|Diem | any suggestions? I tried kiosk mode but I couldn't locate the xfce4 config file | 11:17 |
| Carpe|Diem | there should be something like ${sysconfdir}/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc | 11:27 |
| Carpe|Diem | but its not there | 11:27 |
| ochosi | Carpe|Diem: have you had a look at http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/kiosk_mode yet? | 11:32 |
| Carpe|Diem | ochosi: yes thats where i started | 11:32 |
| Carpe|Diem | but that config file is not on my xubuntu box | 11:32 |
| ochosi | Carpe|Diem: well then if the file doesn't exist simply create it | 11:32 |
| Carpe|Diem | its a newly installed 12.04 | 11:32 |
| ochosi | the instructions of how to do that are on that page | 11:32 |
| Carpe|Diem | that will just work? | 11:32 |
| ochosi | tbh i don't know because i've never used kiosk mode | 11:33 |
| Carpe|Diem | :] | 11:33 |
| ochosi | you can also try asking in #xfce btw | 11:33 |
| Carpe|Diem | okay | 11:33 |
| Carpe|Diem | well i dont even know if kiosk mode will be sufficient for me | 11:33 |
| ochosi | just in case you don't get anyone here who has used this before | 11:33 |
| Carpe|Diem | i need a completely locked down eviroment | 11:33 |
| ochosi | how safe? | 11:34 |
| Carpe|Diem | well, its gonna be a public computer that should be used to connect to my citrix farm | 11:34 |
| Carpe|Diem | thats all it should do | 11:34 |
| Carpe|Diem | i was thinking of just locking down the GUI | 11:34 |
| ochosi | well user-rights is one way of locking things down | 11:34 |
| Carpe|Diem | yes | 11:35 |
| ochosi | then disable all keyboard-shortcuts | 11:35 |
| ochosi | and only show the deskop, no panel | 11:35 |
| Carpe|Diem | yes thats what im trying to aim at | 11:35 |
| Carpe|Diem | you think xfce is able to do that? | 11:35 |
| Carpe|Diem | i assume it is... | 11:35 |
| ochosi | and configure the desktop with kiosk mode, or just change the settings of that particular user, if it's only going to be one | 11:35 |
| ochosi | yes, i'd say sop | 11:35 |
| ochosi | -p | 11:35 |
| Carpe|Diem | well its only going to be one yes :) | 11:35 |
| Carpe|Diem | well ive got trouble finding the config files of xfce4 | 11:36 |
| Carpe|Diem | i can only find xml files | 11:36 |
| ochosi | then you can configure the desktop for that user via xfconf to not do anything | 11:36 |
| ochosi | don't edit the xml files by hand, there's the settings-editor for that | 11:36 |
| Carpe|Diem | oh | 11:37 |
| Carpe|Diem | ok | 11:37 |
| Carpe|Diem | was looking for keyboard shortcuts etc | 11:37 |
| ochosi | that's all also editable via settings-editor | 11:37 |
| Carpe|Diem | okay | 11:37 |
| ochosi | if you don't want to use the settings-manager | 11:37 |
| ochosi | or xfconf-query (which is the cli to settings-editor/xfconf) | 11:37 |
| Carpe|Diem | oh | 11:38 |
| Carpe|Diem | so where can i find the settings editor? is that the one I can find in the menu? | 11:38 |
| ochosi | in fact xfconf-query would probably be the way to go, because it's hard to lock down a user while being logged in as that user | 11:38 |
| Carpe|Diem | yes | 11:38 |
| ochosi | yup | 11:38 |
| Carpe|Diem | you've got a point there | 11:38 |
| ochosi | so you can log in via tty as that user | 11:38 |
| ochosi | change all the settings and test via logging into the x-session | 11:39 |
| Carpe|Diem | lovely | 11:39 |
| Carpe|Diem | i'll use that approach | 11:39 |
| ochosi | it could also be that for kiosk mode that you'd have to create a separate session, i'm not 100% sure | 11:39 |
| Carpe|Diem | Possibly, i'll have to find out :) | 11:39 |
| ochosi | one last hint: stay logged in with your main user in your X-session so you can check the settings you'd wanna change via cli in the settings-editor ;) | 11:39 |
| Carpe|Diem | oh yes | 11:40 |
| Carpe|Diem | good hint :) | 11:40 |
| Carpe|Diem | thanks very much, ochosi | 11:40 |
| Carpe|Diem | :) | 11:40 |
| ochosi | np | 11:40 |
| Pimo | how can i see the grub page at boot to pass some parameters? xubuntu 12.04 | 12:01 |
| Pimo | what happens if i set GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 to 0? | 12:10 |
| Pimo | the boot is faster? | 12:10 |
| Carpe|Diem | not sure | 12:11 |
| Carpe|Diem | maybe 0 is unlimited | 12:11 |
| Carpe|Diem | set it to 1 | 12:11 |
| Pimo | lol | 12:11 |
| Pimo | ok | 12:11 |
| Pimo | ty | 12:12 |
| Papa-Smurf | Hello | 13:43 |
| Papa-Smurf | is there any wall-paper desktop roll application like webilder for xubuntu? | 13:43 |
| ochosi | Papa-Smurf: what is a desktop-roll application? auto-changing desktop backgrounds? | 13:44 |
| Papa-Smurf | ochosi, yes that is :) | 13:45 |
| ochosi | Papa-Smurf: depending on how willing you are to experiment, in xfce4.10 this feature is included already | 13:45 |
| ochosi | Papa-Smurf: so if you install that via the dev-ppa (will be updated in a few days with xfce4.10) it should work, i haven't tested it though | 13:45 |
| Papa-Smurf | i'm still in Xfce4.8 | 13:46 |
| Papa-Smurf | Xubuntu 12.04 | 13:46 |
| ochosi | you can also write a quick script | 13:46 |
| ochosi | it's not very hard, you can change the wallpaper via xfconf | 13:46 |
| ochosi | then throw that in a cronjob and you're done | 13:47 |
| Papa-Smurf | yes sure :) | 13:47 |
| Papa-Smurf | but i would like to download some nice pictures from flirck | 13:47 |
| ochosi | you mean automagically? | 13:47 |
| Papa-Smurf | webilder does that nicely | 13:47 |
| Papa-Smurf | yes | 13:47 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 13:47 |
| ochosi | i thought it was just about cycling images you already have | 13:47 |
| ochosi | in that case i don't know :) | 13:48 |
| ochosi | maybe you can adjust webilder | 13:48 |
| Papa-Smurf | Webilder works nicely in Gnome | 13:48 |
| Papa-Smurf | but i haven't tested in Xfce | 13:48 |
| Papa-Smurf | thanks ochosi for your help | 13:49 |
| Papa-Smurf | :) | 13:49 |
| aguitel | is anyone upgrade to 4.10 with https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa ? | 13:53 |
| * ochosi | 13:53 | |
| miarf_ | what's the optimal way to change dns servers? editing /etc/resolv.conf says that "don't edit by hand, changes will be overwritten" | 14:34 |
| aguitel | is anyone upgrade to 4.10 with https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa ? | 14:42 |
| Pimo | i'm also interested at the question of aguitel | 14:43 |
| astraljava | You might get much more interesting answers other than [yes|no] if you had a more specific question, though. | 14:44 |
| aguitel | i want to know if this upgrade works | 14:44 |
| xubuntu433 | hello. is there anyone here who could guide me to making hibernate work on 12.04? I already tried this and failed: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html | 14:57 |
| holstein | xubuntu433: personally, i dont feel hibernate is worth the hassle | 14:59 |
| holstein | xubuntu433: takes about as much time, if not more to just shutdown and restart | 14:59 |
| Infy_ | I'm in a dilema | 15:00 |
| miarf_ | hmh, laptop volume control keys still don't work | 15:00 |
| aguitel | xubuntu433, it say:Unfortunately, hibernate doesn't work in many cases with Ubuntu, which can cause you to lose data if you expect your documents and applications to re-open when you switch your computer back on. Therefore, hibernate is disabled by default in Ubuntu 12.04. | 15:01 |
| Infy_ | How much SWAP space should I allocate if I've got 15 gigs of HDD space, and 6GB RAM. I'm thinking under 1 GB? | 15:01 |
| baizon | Infy_: i got 4GB RAM and 1GB Swap and i've never seen even 1MB swap used :) | 15:02 |
| xubuntu433 | I know about the hibernate "feature" being disabled but coming from 10.04 where hibernate works fine, I'm surprised that now it's no longer working. | 15:02 |
| aguitel | i think it depend of app open | 15:02 |
| Infy_ | baizon: Same. That's why I'm pondering ATM about it :\ | 15:02 |
| baizon | but dont know how much your using your pc | 15:02 |
| Infy_ | I highly doubt I'll ever hit more than 6 GB ram usage TBH | 15:02 |
| baizon | so 500MB Swap :) | 15:03 |
| Infy_ | Was thinking bout that, thanks | 15:03 |
| xubuntu433 | hibernate may not be worth the hassle for some, but there are some who appreciates its convenience. | 15:03 |
| baizon | np | 15:03 |
| koegs | Infy_: you could also use swap in a file if you do not want to waste space and be more flexibel | 15:04 |
| Infy_ | mhmm, I'll think about it, thanks. Fetching 12.04 atm, going to install later on today. | 15:06 |
| baizon | hmm, does xubuntu work without swap? | 15:06 |
| baizon | or any other distro | 15:06 |
| koegs | yepp | 15:06 |
| holstein | xubuntu433: i dont think its more convenient is my argument | 15:07 |
| baizon | good to know :) | 15:07 |
| holstein | xubuntu433: could be kernel related.. could be that you are getting used to XFCE | 15:07 |
| * Infy_ afk | 15:07 | |
| baizon | xubuntu433: http://xflinux.blogspot.de/2011/01/enable-hibernate-and-suspend-in-xubuntu.html | 15:08 |
| baizon | that should help | 15:08 |
| holstein | xubuntu433: is this the same machine that 10.04 worked on? | 15:09 |
| * holstein has used ubuntu without swap | 15:09 | |
| xubuntu433 | holstein: yes, same machine. | 15:09 |
| baizon | holstein: is there a but? | 15:09 |
| holstein | nah... it worked fine.. i would assume if you "run out" of ram, it would be bad | 15:10 |
| holstein | xubuntu433: i would confirm that no bios settings, or hardware setting have been changed that would prevent hibernation | 15:11 |
| koegs | baizon: i am not sure but hibernate could be a problem without swap | 15:11 |
| baizon | koegs: i dont use hibernate :) | 15:11 |
| baizon | was just helping xubuntu433 | 15:11 |
| holstein | that would be a hardware change that would prevent hibernation xubuntu433 | 15:12 |
| koegs | baizon: my answer was related to your question ;-) | 15:12 |
| baizon | ok :D | 15:12 |
| xubuntu433 | holstein: none. this is a fresh install of xubuntu, all i retained is my home partition. | 15:12 |
| holstein | but, if you sit down and time it, i really see no need for it... in my personal tests on several machines, hibernate takes longer than just restarting | 15:12 |
| miarf_ | man, resizing windows by the bottom corners is nearly impossible | 15:14 |
| xubuntu433 | for me, the best thing about hibernating is being able to resume to where you were the last time you're using the computer. Yes, it's a bit slower compared to a fresh re-start, but you don't have to re-arrange your desktop, apps, etcetera back. | 15:14 |
| koegs | aguitel: it seems like the xfce 4.10 ppa is not "complete" | 15:14 |
| aguitel | koegs, yeah | 15:15 |
| baizon | xubuntu433: xfce got an save session option. Im using that | 15:16 |
| xubuntu433 | baizon, that's interesting. let me check that out. | 15:17 |
| jesus | buenas | 15:18 |
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| Guest93527 | buenas tardes,hay alguien por ahi para resolverme una dudilla? | 15:20 |
| miarf_ | the broken volume control (with fn vol buttons) has be really pulling my hair out | 15:51 |
| aquix | broken? | 15:52 |
| miarf_ | to begin with, the laptop volume controls move the xfce4 volume indicator | 15:53 |
| miarf_ | but it doesn't affect actual volume | 15:53 |
| miarf_ | in the settings editor, under xfce4-mixer, there's a property called active-card, and deleting it momentarily fixes the problem | 15:53 |
| miarf_ | until i press the mute button a couple of times, after which the keys die again | 15:54 |
| miarf_ | this happened with xubuntu 11.10 as well, on at the three different laptops | 15:54 |
| miarf_ | not sure if it's a pulse/alsa mixup somewhere, or audio device (hdmi/analog) | 15:54 |
| miarf_ | most fixes i've found do work - momentarily | 15:55 |
| miarf_ | then again, adjusting the volume with the mouse is good enough, i suppose | 15:55 |
| aquix | ah, ok, because my buttons work but I get no indications on the actions. but I use cairo-dock to adjust my volume | 15:56 |
| aquix | in xubuntu 12.04 | 15:57 |
| xubuntu365 | salut | 15:57 |
| miarf_ | yeah, should probably install something else myself | 15:57 |
| miarf_ | just annoying how poorly such a basic feature works out of the box | 15:57 |
| aquix | but are the other (FN) buttons working? I had problems with brightness. | 15:58 |
| miarf_ | they work properly, as fas as I can tell | 15:58 |
| aquix | it's hardware, built for windows | 15:58 |
| miarf_ | the volume control buttons do work also, in that xubuntu registers them properly | 15:58 |
| miarf_ | since they always affect the volume indicator popup | 15:59 |
| miarf_ | but how xubuntu interprets them beyond that is pretty chaotic | 15:59 |
| aquix | hmmm | 15:59 |
| aquix | your not alone https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=xubuntu+fn+volume+buttons#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=xubuntu+solved+fn+volume+buttons&oq=xubuntu+solved+fn+volume+buttons&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...12537.13683.0.13891.7.7.0.0.0.2.242.1115.0j6j1.7.0...0.0.tTt_cCzrDZs&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=b1c1f3c9dcac8c8b&biw=1366&bih=690 | 16:02 |
| miarf_ | yea | 16:02 |
| aquix | I can't get fn keys to work with brightness but use commands for it in the terminal set to aliases | 16:03 |
| aquix | same with disabling caps lock, but I am not sure how to, tie a command to a fn key. I use ins to start the screensaver. | 16:04 |
| miarf_ | i wonder how complicated it is to make the volume keys control the global volume | 16:07 |
| miarf_ | like, universally | 16:07 |
| miarf_ | if the actual mixer supposedly work on ~every machine if you move the slider with the mose | 16:07 |
| miarf_ | *works | 16:07 |
| aquix | isn't that XF86Audio that are used with hotkeys? | 16:24 |
| aquix | well. good luck. I'm of to make dinner | 16:26 |
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| aboudreault | hi. How can I disable the touchpad in xfce? There is no xorg.conf | 18:33 |
| AxD09 | Did you check the mouse and touchpad section in settings? | 18:35 |
| webspider_ | hi all | 18:37 |
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| aboudreault | AxD09, there is no DIsable/Enable Touchpad in the settings | 18:43 |
| AxD09 | I have a device dropbox and right below that is checkbox that says "Enable this device" | 18:44 |
| aboudreault | AxD09, what version? | 18:56 |
| AxD09 | Xubuntu 12.04 | 18:56 |
| AxD09 | I remember I used to blacklist the synaptic driver in the past | 18:57 |
| aboudreault | I am in xubuntu 11.10 | 18:57 |
| aboudreault | ok | 18:57 |
| sixpack | hi all | 19:09 |
| sixpack | I have a really basic question | 19:10 |
| sixpack | When using Thunar it will not show certain dir's | 19:10 |
| AxD09 | hidden directories? | 19:11 |
| holstein | with dots? like .config ? | 19:11 |
| sixpack | browse to my home folder then to my username, the folder list is missing folders that have a "." in the name | 19:11 |
| Unit193 | Ctrl+H to show them. | 19:11 |
| sixpack | lol ya | 19:11 |
| Unit193 | Those are hidden folders. | 19:11 |
| sixpack | thanks alot! was driving me crazy | 19:11 |
| sixpack | had to use the go option and manually enter the folder name | 19:12 |
| sixpack | thanks for your help, have a great day | 19:12 |
| Unit193 | ls -a does it too. | 19:13 |
| rolesp | hello all | 19:27 |
| rolesp | when I do sudo apt-get install amsn I get this: The amsn package is not available, but some other package references | 19:28 |
| rolesp | to it. This may mean that the package is missing, outdated or just | 19:28 |
| rolesp | available from another source | 19:28 |
| rolesp | E: Package "amsn" has no installation candidate | 19:28 |
| holstein | rolesp: i think its been removed.. if for some reason you cant find a replacement, i would go here http://www.amsn-project.net/ or find a .deb somewhere | 19:29 |
| rolesp | holstein, Thanks, but same thing that the Sourcecode page, only option is to build from the source package | 19:34 |
| holstein | rolesp: and just for the record, that *is* an option | 19:34 |
| holstein | rolesp: when i go here http://www.amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php i see "ubuntu" as an option | 19:35 |
| rolesp | and i only found a deb package for lucid in the internet | 19:35 |
| holstein | rolesp: i see them for oneiric... if you are comfortable installing a .deb and removing if there are any issues, i say it wont hurt | 19:36 |
| holstein | if it were me, id probably just move on to a more supported and capable client | 19:36 |
| holstein | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/amsn-data/download for example | 19:38 |
| holstein | BUT, i would at least glance at the build instructions | 19:38 |
| rolesp | holstein, I am using pidgin that is instaled by defect, and i think is good, but even whit the complements installed lacks some options | 19:39 |
| rolesp | and the config interfase is confuse | 19:40 |
| holstein | "installed by default" | 19:40 |
| holstein | and thats literally one option, others include trying that or another .deb, or a package from oneiric, or the windows verions in wine ...let us konw whot you decide and if we can help any more :) | 19:41 |
| holstein | also just building as it is suggested on the site | 19:41 |
| holstein | rolesp: heres a PPA https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa | 19:42 |
| rolesp | thanks holstein, gona try that deb package | 19:42 |
| rolesp | thanks again, going to add that PPA | 19:43 |
| hfpm | Greetings everyone | 19:44 |
| hfpm | i have xubuntu 12 installed | 19:44 |
| hfpm | and untill the moment i have not been able to install oracle java 6 | 19:45 |
| hfpm | usually this used to be something like this | 19:45 |
| hfpm | sudo wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u31-b04/jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin | 19:45 |
| hfpm | sudo chmod +x jdk-6u31-linux-i586.bin | 19:45 |
| hfpm | sudo ./jdk-6u31-linux-i586.bin | 19:45 |
| hfpm | but i'm always getting the following errors | 19:45 |
| hfpm | ./jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin: 1: ./jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin: cannot open html: No such file | 19:46 |
| hfpm | ./jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin: 2: ./jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin: cannot open head: No such file | 19:46 |
| hfpm | ./jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin: 3: ./jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin: cannot open title: No such file | 19:46 |
| hfpm | and so on | 19:46 |
| hfpm | any hints??? | 19:46 |
| hfpm | (sorry fo mistaking the package name) | 19:47 |
| hfpm | it is always jdk-6u31-linux-x64.bin | 19:47 |
| holstein | hfpm: i would confirm those paths | 19:48 |
| holstein | hfpm: i would reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java | 19:49 |
| holstein | i would use tab complete in the terminal to complete the path | 19:49 |
| Pici | hfpm: You can't download things from oracle's website like that. | 19:49 |
| Pici | hfpm: I bet if you looked at that bin file you have, you'd find that its just an html document. | 19:51 |
| hfpm | holstein, looking at the site you referred | 19:51 |
| hfpm | the procedure which is described | 19:51 |
| hfpm | is: | 19:51 |
| hfpm | wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u31-b04/jdk-6u31-linux-i586.bin | 19:51 |
| hfpm | $ chmod u+x jdk-6u31-linux-i586.bin | 19:51 |
| hfpm | $ ./jdk-6u31-linux-i586.bin | 19:51 |
| hfpm | more or less the same procedure what i'm doing | 19:52 |
| Pici | Open that link yourself in your browser. | 19:52 |
| rolesp | This PPA is signed. You may want to add the corresponding GPG key to your apt keyring: | 19:52 |
| rolesp | what do I do to add the key? | 19:53 |
| hfpm | ok pici | 19:56 |
| hfpm | it seems that i have somehow a wrong link | 19:56 |
| Pici | !gpgerr | rolesp | 19:56 |
| ubottu | rolesp: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> » | 19:56 |
| hfpm | i will check further | 19:57 |
| hfpm | thanks | 19:57 |
| rolesp | thanks Pici | 19:58 |
| Pici | np | 19:59 |
| xubuntu814 | Hello? | 20:06 |
| xubuntu814 | hello | 20:07 |
| xubuntu814 | hello world | 20:07 |
| knome | hello. | 20:07 |
| xubuntu814 | hi | 20:07 |
| xubuntu814 | how can I install xubuntu on my laptop if it doesnt have a cd drive? | 20:08 |
| knome | you can install via usb drive | 20:09 |
| xubuntu814 | would i always have to run xubuntu from the usb drive? | 20:09 |
| knome | no, you can install from the usb drive | 20:10 |
| xubuntu814 | ok, I will try that, thanks m8 | 20:10 |
| knome | no problem | 20:10 |
| MrMkS | Hello | 20:21 |
| taskb4r | Hellp | 20:21 |
| MrMkS | How i can become a Official Xubuntu Mirror ? | 20:21 |
| taskb4r | Hello* | 20:21 |
| MrMkS | Im already have a Ubuntu Official Mirror | 20:21 |
| knome | MrMkS, i'd advise you to turn to #xubuntu-devel, so i can tell you that we need to investigate ;) | 20:21 |
| knome | MrMkS, you're the one sending the email to the mailing list? | 20:21 |
| single | Hi, like it could put to the windows of xubuntu great buttons without having to change the manager of windows that it has by defect? | 20:23 |
| knome | single, can you please try to rephrase? that doesn't make any sense | 20:24 |
| SATop | hi, my mousepointer freezes sometimes in xubuntu 12.04 when i logoff i can move the mouse again in the login screen | 20:25 |
| single | ok i want big buttons in the windows of xubuntu | 20:25 |
| single | ppp size font dont work | 20:26 |
| single | in xubuntu for the big buttons | 20:27 |
| knome | single, big buttons - where? | 20:27 |
| knome | single, in the window borders? | 20:27 |
| single | in the windows of xubuntu like mozilla or another apps | 20:28 |
| SATop | single do you mean the window manager buttons ? for minimize maximize close ? | 20:28 |
| knome | single, if i understand you correctly, the answer is that it is not possible | 20:28 |
| knome | SATop, wait... when you log off, but you can use it again in the login screen - so what's the problem? :) | 20:29 |
| single | yeah are the buttons of minimize maximize and close are very small for my eyes in xubuntu | 20:29 |
| knome | single, at the moment, there's no other option than use another theme | 20:29 |
| SATop | knome well i dont want to log off and loose my work or do a lot of work with keyboard to save all things and logoff and login again | 20:30 |
| knome | SATop, right - so the freeze happens *before* you log out ? | 20:31 |
| single | where is there a theme with buttons for xubuntu without use gtk only xfwm | 20:31 |
| single | ? | 20:31 |
| SATop | yes it happens randomly when working in xubuntu | 20:31 |
| knome | single, xubuntu will use a gtk theme anyway. | 20:31 |
| single | with big buttons? | 20:31 |
| knome | single, there should be some hicolor-themes installed | 20:32 |
| knome | single, those will have bigger buttons too | 20:32 |
| SATop | single you can maybe make your own theme or edit a theme and change the sizes ? | 20:32 |
| single | my xubuntu 12.04 hasnt themes with big buttons | 20:33 |
| knome | wait - i mixed up gtk and xfwm themes. i'm not sure if there is any xfwm themes with *particularly* big buttons | 20:33 |
| SATop | xfce-look.org has lots of themes | 20:33 |
| single | themes for the windows in xfwm | 20:33 |
| knome | single, i suppose the only way to go is to create your own theme at the moment | 20:34 |
| SATop | knome is there a way to restart the "mouse" in the terminal ? | 20:36 |
| knome | SATop, i don't know | 20:37 |
| SATop | ok | 20:37 |
| knome | have you filed a bug? | 20:37 |
| SATop | i dont know if it is a real bug | 20:38 |
| single_ | knome could you give me the link of a theme with big buttons for xubuntu xfwm? | 20:38 |
| knome | single_, as i said, i suppose the only way is to create your own theme at the moment | 20:38 |
| SATop | knome in 11.10 i had no problems i dont know exactly what changed in the touchpad area in 12.04 | 20:38 |
| knome | SATop, i'd file a bug, give any logs some developers ask for, and see if it's a real bug :) | 20:38 |
| SATop | ok knome | 20:39 |
| SATop | single i know of a big theme but i have to search for it if it is still available | 20:39 |
| knome | SATop, there's a new dialog for mouse/touchpad in 12.10 | 20:39 |
| knome | SATop, see settings manager -> mouse and touchpad | 20:39 |
| knome | SATop, i don't know if that helps, but... | 20:40 |
| SATop | yes i looked into that but changing settings or switching of and on didnt help | 20:40 |
| single_ | ok but is very bad for my eyes use a theme with buttons so shorts | 20:41 |
| single_ | in xubuntu | 20:42 |
| rolesp | SATop, maybe selecting mouse emulation in accesability can help | 20:48 |
| SATop | how can that help me ? | 20:48 |
| SATop | is that managing the mousepointer with the numerical keyboard ? | 20:50 |
| rolesp | I think so | 20:50 |
| SATop | well i am on a netbook and the numerical keys are hidden behind the FN-key so i dont think that it will work very comfortably | 20:52 |
| aguitel | how enable mouse and touchpad with command line ? | 20:52 |
| SATop | yes aguitel yes rather restart it | 20:53 |
| knome | aguitel, xfce4-mouse-settings | 20:53 |
| Infy_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAc6vc93jxc | 20:54 |
| singlerr | i wanted use openbox in xubuntu but i dont know install it | 20:57 |
| genii-around | !info openbox | 20:58 |
| ubottu | openbox (source: openbox): standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.0-2ubuntu2 (precise), package size 298 kB, installed size 1316 kB | 20:58 |
| Unit193 | You could also build from the !mini iso. | 20:59 |
| singlerr | what is mini iso??? | 20:59 |
| * genii-around makes more coffee | 21:00 | |
| genii-around | singlerr: It's a minimal base version of ubuntu, to which you can add manually only the packages you want, to make a lighter overall system | 21:00 |
| Unit193 | Or more customized. | 21:01 |
| singlerr | ok but i dont want mor difficult level for me in xubuntu | 21:02 |
| singlerr | i dont want more... | 21:02 |
| Infy_ | mini-iso = alternate install? | 21:02 |
| knome | Infy_, nope | 21:03 |
| knome | !mini | 21:03 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 21:03 |
| Infy_ | Ahh, thank you | 21:03 |
| singlerr | ok but i dont want to install another time my distro of xubuntu | 21:04 |
| knome | singlerr, 'sudo apt-get install openbox' will install openbox, but please note it is not supported in #xubuntu | 21:05 |
| singlerr | i had installed openbox in xubuntu but dont work , the system report error with open box | 21:07 |
| genii-around | singlerr: Did you first do: sudo apt-get update ? | 21:07 |
| Unit193 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=0cbce80f64253386cd42c42f6b3eb01f&p=10950331&postcount=8 That's one way to get it setup. | 21:08 |
| singlerr | yeah xubuntu say me : you dont have four desktops or similar when i installed openbox | 21:08 |
| knome | singlerr, is english your native language? | 21:11 |
| SATop | reboot | 21:12 |
| Elchzard | Under SEH Team | 21:12 |
| knome | Elchzard, excuse me? | 21:12 |
| Unit193 | Crosspost 3 chans. | 21:13 |
| singlerr | knome no | 21:13 |
| knome | Elchzard, okay, stop advertising *now*. | 21:13 |
| Elchzard | knome, my client not me! | 21:15 |
| Elchzard | erghghgh | 21:15 |
| * Elchzard remembers not to DCC using this XChat | 21:16 | |
| knome | Elchzard, then change the client. you are responsible what your client is doing | 21:16 |
| singlerr | the size parameters of the windows can be modified in xubuntun from a file? | 21:17 |
| knome | singlerr, is english your native language? | 21:18 |
| singlerr | no never | 21:18 |
| singlerr | never was | 21:18 |
| knome | singlerr, then what is? | 21:18 |
| singlerr | my native language is the second language more used in the world | 21:19 |
| knome | singlerr, i don't want riddles, i'm trying to help you | 21:19 |
| singlerr | knome | 21:19 |
| singlerr | my native language is es -es or sp sp | 21:20 |
| singlerr | knome | 21:21 |
| knome | !es | singlerr | 21:21 |
| ubottu | singlerr: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. | 21:21 |
| knome | singlerr, maybe you'd get better responses there? | 21:21 |
| singlerr | no xubuntu-es hasnt many users | 21:23 |
| singlerr | knome | 21:23 |
| knome | singlerr, try #ubuntu-es, they will be able to help on xubuntu-issues too | 21:23 |
| singlerr | no because mv4 always put me a ban in ubuntu-es | 21:24 |
| knome | singlerr, in that case, go to #ubuntu-ops and resolve the ban | 21:25 |
| singlerr | no in ops must be much worse yet | 21:26 |
| singlerr | knome | 21:26 |
| knome | singlerr, you are not making any sense to me with your questions - i point you to a channel with your native language where you are banned - please resolve your ban | 21:27 |
| singlerr | im sorry but i need a miracle not resolve my ban | 21:29 |
| singlerr | knome | 21:29 |
| crond | singlerr, I suspect more people in the world speak chinese than spanish. | 21:32 |
| knome | crond, if you wish to talk about languages, feel free to do so in #xubuntu-offtopic | 21:33 |
| crond | knome, never, I will discuss python *here* | 21:34 |
| crond | :P | 21:34 |
| singlerr | crond ok but in the world ? in how many countries speak chinese? | 21:34 |
| knome | singlerr, take it to #xubuntu-offtopic. | 21:35 |
| singlerr | well i had solution to my question , i go to the bed and see you tomorrow | 21:38 |
| SATop | i found a BIG xfwm theme it is called "Touchscreen theme for WeTab" on xfce-look.org for mister single if he returns here | 21:53 |
| sixpack | anyone know a good instant messenger that works with file transfers with windows users? | 21:53 |
| Unit193 | I *think* pidgin does, but it'd depend more on the protocol used. | 21:54 |
| sixpack | I use Pidin and ya it does work for some and receiving.. but not msn or sending to yahoo users | 21:54 |
| sixpack | have you heard anything about aMSN | 21:55 |
| sixpack | I use trillian on windows but I havent been able to get it to run even under wine | 21:56 |
| sixpack | I guess I could run a virtual machine but that seems a bit drastic | 21:57 |
| Unit193 | aMSN was removed from the repo, there's Empathy? | 21:57 |
| sixpack | hmm is that the default one in the main ubuntu install? | 21:57 |
| SATop | emesene is a msn-messenger | 21:57 |
| sixpack | I heard good things about it but havent tried it yet | 21:58 |
| SATop | it looks good and works well | 21:58 |
| sixpack | emesene? never heard of it thanks will take a look | 21:59 |
| rolesp | bbl | 22:20 |
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