[00:20] <cjohnston> Daviey: do you have a code fix for me
[00:21] <cjohnston> tsimpson: AlanBell ping
[00:21] <AlanBell> hi cjohnston
[00:22] <cjohnston> AlanBell: how does the bot get its information?
[00:22] <cjohnston> for uds
[00:25] <AlanBell> really not sure, I am guessing there is some url it polls from summit
[00:28] <cjohnston> im wondering if its the ical
[00:28] <AlanBell> might well be
[00:29] <AlanBell> highly likely looking at the room_ical method
[00:47] <cjohnston> AlanBell: I just sent you an email
[00:47] <cjohnston> can you look at that
[00:51] <AlanBell> I am struggling to find where that link is cjohnston
[00:57] <cjohnston> I wasnt sure if you knew something I didnt
[00:59] <AlanBell> the link in the channel topic is fine
[07:58] <bkerensa> gnight folks
[08:19] <s-fox> Hello.
[10:11] <head_victim> Any extra membership board members floating around? We can do with one more in -meeting currently if anyone has spare time.
[10:12] <s-fox> hey head_victim
[10:13] <head_victim> Gday s-fox
[10:13] <s-fox> i can grant ubuntu membership via forums contributions if that counts head_victim
[10:13] <head_victim> s-fox: hmm, I don't actually know if that counts
[10:13] <s-fox> :)
[10:14] <s-fox> brb
[10:17] <s-fox> Back
[10:24] <head_victim> s-fox: as we can't be sure that it qualifies we'd like to err on the side of caution. Unless someone is able to confidently say one way or another.
[10:28] <s-fox> head_victim, as you wish.
[10:29] <head_victim> s-fox: sorry mate, just being a different type of board (for example, I don't think I'd be a good judge of forum contributions). But, I do believe there is a call for applicants for the newly structred membership boards.
[10:31] <s-fox> The regional membership boards have been restructured head_victim  ?
[10:32] <head_victim> In the process of
[10:33] <s-fox> Ah, I see. What has prompted the change?
[10:33] <head_victim> The fact that some boards are struggling to reach quorum.
[10:35] <s-fox> Hmm, I recall my membership application to a regional board was pretty seamless. I guess I was fortunate.
[10:36] <s-fox> So you are looking for new board members?
[10:46] <head_victim> s-fox: they're moving to having 2 boards, one that meets at 1200 UTC and another that meets at 2200 UTC
[10:46] <s-fox> Yes I was just reading head_victim . Considering putting an application in.
[10:54] <head_victim> s-fox: go for it :)
[10:56] <s-fox> head_victim,  Thanks, I shall :-) I mean I know I am focused on forum stuff but I do other things elsewhere in the community, as well as have a pretty good relationship with most other community leaders
[11:05] <head_victim> s-fox: you sound like a great candidate :)
[11:05] <s-fox> head_victim,  I've been around for a bit, lol ;)
[11:06] <hobgoblin> lol
[11:06] <s-fox> But hobgoblin should go for it
[11:06] <hobgoblin> ...
[11:06] <s-fox> My mentor taught me a lot of things
[11:06] <s-fox> haha
[11:06] <hobgoblin> :)
[11:07] <hobgoblin> he would say thanks - but he'd have toget up
[11:16] <head_victim> Yeah, I like it because I'm the sort that has also been around a while but I can't really contribute on a technical level. So community contribution is right up my alley
[11:17] <hobgoblin> there aremany of us like that head_victim ;)
[14:21] <s-fox> head_victim,  started my application process \o/
[15:09] <MrChrisDruif> Canonical Community Team meeting suspended to next week I presume?
[15:10] <Pici> very likely.
[16:00] <AlanBell> you can pop into #ubuntu-uds-room-202 nowish to find them though
[16:01] <AlanBell> icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/room-202.ogg.m3u for audio
[16:02] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: where are you seeing the CC meeting?
[16:03] <pleia2> (there was one last week, not this week)
[16:03] <AlanBell> community team not community council
[16:04] <jussi> pleia2: Im guessing he doesnt mean... what AlanBell said
[16:04] <pleia2> oh, sorry
[16:04] <pleia2> still asleep :)
[16:04] <jussi> hehe
[16:04] <jussi> hey, is Andrea Grandi at UDS?
[16:04] <pleia2> and it's only day 2!
[16:04] <jussi> pleia2: so you just havent woken up yet then :P
[16:05] <hobgoblin> can someone tell me how to get my name on the list on the etherpad thing - put name in box and top and enter does nothing
[16:05] <czajkowski> did you hit enter?
[16:06] <hobgoblin> yep
[16:06] <hobgoblin> czajkowski: then nothing happens
[16:07] <hobgoblin> no matter
[16:07] <pleia2> hobgoblin: forestpixie is in the list
[16:07] <hobgoblin> oh
[16:08] <pleia2> you won't see it
[16:08] <hobgoblin> I don't see me then
[16:08] <hobgoblin> LMAO
[16:08] <pleia2> :)
[16:08]  * hobgoblin assumes it's IRC 
[16:08] <hobgoblin> thanks pleia2 - I was going mad
[16:10] <czajkowski> it's day 2 and the crazyness has already thought about
[16:21] <jussi> So how is UDS going for all - anything interesting I need to be updated on so far? (saw marks keynote, been out/asleep most of the rest :/
[16:27] <balloons> jussi, I would say it's in full swing :-)
[16:27] <balloons> you can see the schedule -- not sure what may be interesting to you.. blueprint watching is always fun
[16:37]  * cjohnston assigns work items to jussi 
[16:38] <jussi> hah!
[16:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hey bilal
[16:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> daker_, idk why the US embassy is acting that way :[
[19:12] <daker_> IAmNotThatGuy: :/
[19:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> Sup daker_ ?
[19:13] <daker_> IAmNotThatGuy> daker_, idk why the US embassy is acting that way :[
[19:13] <czajkowski> daker_: what reason were you given?
[19:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> Mine is Low salary :|
[19:14] <czajkowski> was it possibly a red falg for them to see a new passport and then a visa application ?
[19:14] <daker_> yeah maybe
[19:15] <daker_> czajkowski: he told me where i am going, and if it's the first time to travel
[19:15] <daker_> and gave him the letter
[19:16] <daker_> then he starts typing on the keyboard
[19:16] <daker_> i think he looked at the website u.u.c
[19:18] <daker_> czajkowski: then he told me that they don't delivere visa at this time, and he gave a letter.
[19:18] <JanC> daker_: my guess is that you coming from the "wrong" part of the world is also relevant...
[19:19] <daker_> i don't know :) first and last time to apply for a us visa
[19:19] <czajkowski> and a new passport
[19:20] <daker_> czajkowski: well everything is new :)
[19:20] <JanC> czajkowski: if you or I had a new passport they wouldn't care so much
[19:21] <JanC> international politics certainly play a role
[19:21] <JanC> which is somewhat understandable, but still not fair
[19:22] <JanC> daker_: does Morocco exchange intelligence info about its citizens to the US?
[19:23] <daker_> JanC: not sure, but i think 99% they do :)
[19:23] <daker_> JanC: my opinion VISA # Freedom
[19:25] <JanC> of course visa aren't about freedom
[19:25] <JanC> they are about the exact opposite  ;)
[19:26] <JanC> it's like a password
[19:26] <daker_> yeah maybe
[19:26] <JanC> if you have the secret sign, you may enter  :P
[19:27] <JanC> I guess it's one of the disadvantages of having UDS in the US...
[19:28] <daker_> 100% right
[19:28] <daker_> JanC: the other disadvantage is TZ
[19:29] <daker_> i can only attend the sessions of the morning
[19:29] <JanC> I heard it's 50% cheaper than in Europe, and they get better service from the venue for that price, which in current times is also relevant of course
[19:29] <hobgoblin> was more or less what I heard too JanC
[19:30] <JanC> probably there are too many conference venues in the US so they have to fight for customers  ;)
[19:32] <JanC> in many parts of Europe there aren't enough (large) conference centers, so they can almost ask what they want
[19:33] <JanC> that's why FOSDEM is so lucky to be able to use the ULB university infrastructure
[19:34] <czajkowski> daker_: JanC same can be said when uds is in EU folks otuside of there find timezones hard
[19:34] <czajkowski> never going to please everyone
[19:35] <JanC> timezones will always be an issue of course
[19:35] <JanC> and are more or less unsolvable
[19:35] <czajkowski> indeed
[19:35] <czajkowski> so dont know why people always give out about them
[19:36] <JanC> well, if UDS rotates between locations, that makes things easier for different people around the world
[19:37] <JanC> so that complaint is valid, but it's not something you can change about 1 particular venue
[19:37] <hobgoblin> disappointment at missing things perhaps czajkowski - who knows without asking
[19:37] <czajkowski> hobgoblin: yes but nothing can be done either
[19:38] <hobgoblin> nope
[19:38] <czajkowski> uds does rotate
[19:38] <czajkowski> bar this time
[19:38] <hobgoblin> :)
[19:38] <JanC> to some degree
[19:38] <czajkowski> but it does usually but the olympics has messed up a lot of the EU with flights and costs
[19:38] <czajkowski> also don't forget a lot of planning goes into a uds
[19:38] <czajkowski> you need a venue {              } large
[19:39] <czajkowski> and available for accommodation and hosting usually availabe for 1-2 weeks
[19:39] <JanC> only once in Australia and never in Asia or Africa (which has reasonable reasons too)
[19:39] <czajkowski> costs
[19:39] <czajkowski> flights
[19:39] <czajkowski> visas
[19:39] <hobgoblin> all of which shut it more or less all away from me :)
[19:40] <czajkowski> hobgoblin: the same could be said if it goes to X 100 people may say no can do cost/flights/visa et
[19:40] <czajkowski> nobody is every happy
[19:40] <czajkowski> :/
[19:40] <czajkowski> but it has come on a long way to make remote particpation good
[19:40] <hobgoblin> I know - I'm not complaining - can understand why others do :)
[19:40] <JanC> I know almost for sure we can get a cheap, large venue and no issues with venues when UDS is in Vietnam...  ;)
[19:41] <daker_> czajkowski: right now remote particpation is not good (TZ)
[19:41] <hobgoblin> czajkowski: I agree with that - this yeat I can hear :)
[19:41] <JanC> no issues with visas
[19:41] <daker_> JanC: right
[19:41] <daker_> in north africa too
[19:41] <JanC> but then travel gets expensive probably
[19:41] <czajkowski> yup
[19:41] <czajkowski> and long
[19:41] <czajkowski> anwyays
[19:42] <czajkowski> I've to get back to other stuff
[19:42] <JanC> daker_: how easy is it to get visa for a conference in Morocco?
[19:43] <JanC> (for those who would need one)
[19:43] <daker_> i have no idea but i don't thing it's like the US
[19:44] <JanC> I know in Vietnam you buy a visum at the airport when you arrive  ;)
[19:46] <daker_> JanC: http://www.learn4good.com/travel/morocco_visa.htm#req
[19:48] <JanC> so basically, you just have to show a reservation in a hotel?  ;)
[19:49] <daker_> JanC: just your passeport
[19:50] <JanC> I mean, for visitors from those countries that aren't exempt from a visum
[19:50] <JanC> having a hotel reservation for the period involved seems to be enough to get a tourist visum
[19:51] <daker_> and return Ticket i think
[19:51] <JanC> (which is probably easiest to get)
[19:51] <JanC> yeah, probably
[19:52] <JanC> if it's that easy in practice too, that should be easy
[19:52] <JanC> cost 16 GBP though
[19:54] <JanC> daker_: I'm not sure if Morocco is known as an international conference venue?
[19:55] <daker_> JanC: Morocco = Tourism
[19:55] <JanC> yeah, sometimes that goes together
[19:57] <JanC> but are there many conference centers available?
[19:57] <JanC> and don't forget, UDS has become *big*   ;)
[19:58] <daker_> yes, we can find :)
[20:01] <JanC> I wonder how many people are at UDS right now  ☺
[20:03] <daker_> about 300, not sure...
[20:03] <JanC> hm, I think there were more in the past?
[20:04] <JanC> (and I think the Linaro conference is also there?)
[20:05] <JanC> anyway, I'm gone for an hour or so...
[20:05] <daker_> http://summit.linaro.org/
[20:43] <AlanBell> It seems bigger than it was a couple.of years ago
[20:57] <JanC> AlanBell: I seem to remember a number of around 300-400 for UDS-M, but I might be wrong
[20:59]  * MrChrisDruif is envious of everyone @ UDS
[21:00] <daker_> AlanBell, czajkowski  is the plenary streamed http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ ?
[21:08] <daker_> JanC: at leat we are not this list http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/08/slowest-internet-countries_n_1475397.html#s=937184
[21:09] <daker_> so the internet connexion is good :)
[21:14] <s-fox> Hello :)
[21:14] <JanC> daker_: actually, I remember 3G being much cheaper in Morocco than in Belgium 5 years ago or so
[21:14] <daker_> the internet here is unlimited
[21:14] <JanC> (we used that to put pressure on our local telcos  ;) )
[21:15] <daker_> 8mega 3G 80euro per month
[21:16] <JanC> that sounds quite more expensive than it was back then  :P
[21:16] <JanC> might have been more thanb  5 years actually
[21:19] <daker_> JanC: awe sorry it's ~37.5euro
[21:20] <daker_> for 7,2 Mbps
[21:20] <daker_> 22euro for 3.6 Mbps
[21:20] <JanC> well, 2.5G & 3G with 2 GiB data is available at 12 € (data only) or 15 € (data + voice) in Belgium right now (thanks to 1 price-breaking company)
[21:21] <JanC> no speed guarantees
[21:21] <JanC> by 3G I mean gsm wireless tech
[21:23] <JanC> I remember back then they basically charged you 5 € / 100 MiB or so  ;)
[21:23] <JanC> so nobody used it, unless your company paid for it
[21:25] <JanC> nowadays things are much better