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Shadow__Xhdpvr?01:47
Shadow__Xtgm4883: you around?01:53
Shadow__Xi am currently on .24.2 and want to upgrade to .25 and am wondering what the best way to do that is01:54
tgm4883Shadow__X, yes01:55
tgm4883!repos01:56
ZinnThe Mythbuntu team provides updates for MythTV and Mythbuntu package using the Mythbuntu Repos http://mythbuntu.org/repos01:56
Shadow__Xyeah i am already on those repos01:56
Shadow__Xis it still recommended to do apt-get dist-upgrade01:56
tgm4883yes and no01:58
tgm4883it's never recommended to do a dist-upgrade unless you know what you are doing01:58
tgm4883but it's required to do it to go from 0.24 to 0.2501:59
tgm4883or any new mythtv release01:59
Shadow__Xit was listed on this page http://www.mythbuntu.org/mythtv/0.2501:59
Zinn[www.mythbuntu.org] MythTV 0.25 has been released! | Mythbuntu01:59
tgm4883yep01:59
tgm4883not recommended, required02:00
tgm4883and that is just because of how apt works02:00
Shadow__Xoh ok i gotcha02:00
tgm4883currently making dinner, but i'll explain it later if you want02:00
Shadow__Xexplain how apt works or how to upgrade? and thanks i appreciate the help02:00
tgm4883apt02:01
Shadow__Xoh ok yeah when you have time that would be helpful02:01
Shadow__Xjust changed the repo to use .25 in mythbuntu  control center. apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade time02:03
tgm4883Shadow__X, ok, done cooking for a few minutes02:08
tgm4883so with mythtv, most packages are named the same. There is one package that is always different though for major mythtv versions (libmyth-0.25.0)02:09
tgm4883during a regular apt-get upgrade, apt downloads and replaces packages that are already on the system02:09
Shadow__Xthanks for the help tgm4883. I am not sure why but t seemed like i just wanted  to make sure i was doing things right. Mythtv has become so stabile i dont want to break it when i have eveyrthing working02:10
tgm4883a regular 'upgrade' though cannot install new dependencies02:10
Shadow__Xah ok gotcha02:10
Shadow__Xthat makes sense02:10
tgm4883so it will hold back packages, since it's not allowed to install new packages02:10
tgm4883a dist-upgrade is allowed to install new packages (or remove packages if there are new conflicts)02:11
tgm4883that is the basic difference between the two, and why it's always required when upgrading to a new major mythtv version02:11
Shadow__Xah gotcha that makes sense c ompared to what i have seen when upgrading other packages02:11
tgm4883if you ever see held back packages, you can always use the -s switch with dist-upgrade to perform a simulated upgrade02:11
tgm4883it will go though the motions and you can see what it is doing02:12
Shadow__Xah neat ok then i can sww whats changing02:12
tgm4883that way if it's trying to remove 90% of the packages, you know there is an issue and you don't want to do that02:12
tgm4883exactly02:12
* tgm4883 dinnertime02:12
Shadow__Xthanks again and enjoy02:13
Shadow__Xand i am upgraded. Now i just need torc to get released03:04
qwebirc42171anyone using ltsp with ubuntu 12.04?03:36
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qwebirc75179Could anyone enlighted this Noob as to why Mythbuntu 11.10 keeps saying "Failed to probe" when I try to add a infinitv4 PCIe card as an IVTV MPEG-2 Encoder card?16:36
UForgottenwhy such an old mythbuntu?16:37
qwebirc75179I may have the version wrong, how can I check?16:37
UForgottenlsb_release -a16:37
tgm4883old?16:38
UForgottenold = not latest :)16:38
UForgottenit could just be missing the kernel modules for that device.16:38
tgm4883UForgotten, yes, but "such an old" sounds more like it's 8.0416:38
UForgottentgm4883: fair enough.16:39
qwebirc75179I was correct.. 11.10 what is the current version? I thought I had it.16:39
qwebirc75179when I do a lsmod ceton and ctn91xx are both there16:39
UForgottenand it shows up as using that driver on lspci -vvv?16:40
UForgottenit may not be looking in the correct device path16:41
UForgottenbtw I'm a noob myself so ymmv16:41
UForgottennoob to mythtv, that is,  been doing linux for 14+ years.16:41
qwebirc75179i told it '/dev/ceton/ctn91xx_mpeg0_0'16:41
qwebirc75179I have only been doing linux for a short time... still in college for CS16:42
UForgottendid you check dmesg/syslog to see if that's where it attached?16:42
qwebirc75179I am not sure what I am looking for in lspci -vvv16:42
qwebirc75179command16:42
UForgottenthis may be easier, do lspci first, and find the device itself since that gives one line per device16:43
UForgottenthen lspci -vvv > pciout16:43
UForgottenthen open pciout and search for the line that matches the device from the simple lspci output16:43
UForgottenits not as important as just looking in the syslogs to see if it attached a device16:44
qwebirc75179Awe... I don't see anything releated to Ceton or ctn91xx.. but I see a 'Multimedia video controller'16:45
UForgottenyou may have to put it in udev or something.  Sorry but I gotta run, good luck16:45
qwebirc75179no prob. Thanks for the help!16:45
UForgottenthe output from the driver in dmesg and /var/log/syslog may be more informative as to what it did after the module loaded.16:46
qwebirc75179let me check there16:46
qwebirc75179how do I check dmesg?16:46
qwebirc75179Ok.. in the syslog I have this warning "unknown ioctl on ctn91xx mpeg device (-2143521279)"16:50
qwebirc75179Does anyone know if this is the kernel headers problem?16:51
Shadow__Xqwebirc75179: did you install the drivers that were mentioned in the mythtv pages for that card?17:03
Shadow__Xhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Ceton_InfiniTV_417:04
Zinn[www.mythtv.org] Ceton InfiniTV 4 - MythTV Official Wiki17:04
qwebirc75179I have read that, however I am confussed at the RTP part17:06
qwebirc75179I did install the drivers from the ceton webpage... no errors came up17:08
qwebirc75179in the dmesg it says unknown ioctl on ctn91xx mpeg device17:09
qwebirc75179Thanks for help guys, unfortunately I need to leave. Thanks!17:11
yoggHi19:54
yoggIs it possible to use an usb card reader (with an original card) to decrypt a channel (cccam or so?)?19:55
tgm4883yogg, ask in #mythtv-users19:57
yoggkk thx19:58
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