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ubottuIn #ubuntu-bots, Resistance said: !notunity is <reply>Ubuntu 11.10 (and later) uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:12
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kevin25hello00:53
kevin25can i get unbanned from #ubuntu00:53
elkyno.00:57
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kevin__so what do i need to do to get unbanned01:02
bazhangkevin__, stop coming here every day01:03
kevin__i need to get back on ubuntu channel please01:03
bazhangaskubuntu.com kevin__01:03
kevin__please tell me what needs to be done01:03
kevin__u cannot deny me this channel cause of what u think i did01:04
bazhangkevin__, coming here every day will not make that happen sooner01:04
kevin__u dont want me to talk to professionals ive not botherd u for months about this dangit until yesterday i need this now please01:04
kevin__u give me no choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:07
bazhang?01:07
IdleOnekevin__: it is time for you to part this channel, please.01:15
IdleOneokie dokie01:18
elky/cs k IdleOne Please do not idleone in #ubuntu-ops ;)01:36
elkytehehehe01:36
ubottuIn #ubuntu, bullet2222 said: ubottu lol linux mint is ubuntu02:09
* elky raises an eyebrow at bazhang 02:44
bazhangelky, yes?02:45
elkyjust making sure you're around as backup02:46
bazhangfor the misogyny in -ot?02:46
elkyyuh02:46
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:54
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:55
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)02:55
cryptopsyyou all make me sick04:29
cryptopsyfuck you04:29
elkyWell that was a nice quick resolution.04:42
bioterror2012-01-25 06:18:54     ::      cryptopsy (~cryptopsy@unaffiliated/aborticide) has joined #archlinux04:47
bioterrorsame guy04:47
elkycryptopsy is a loooooooong time issue on the network04:49
bioterrorsome people never grow up04:50
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ubottuBen64 called the ops in #ubuntu ()07:29
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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Elotero appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY)08:40
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from elotero)08:41
knomehow can we set chanserv notify-stuff?09:40
knomenevermind, that was an xchat issue.09:52
PiciWe probably should setup a factoid for the new resolv.conf behavior.13:26
tsimpson!resolvconf13:27
ubotturesolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/13:27
ikoniaI was trying to get a document together on it13:27
tsimpsonplease update to make it not suck :)13:27
Picitsimpson: oh, neat.13:27
ikoniamaybe put it into the ubuntu wiki ?13:27
ikoniaso it's an "official" document13:28
tsimpsonthat would be the ideal, but I think it'd be more than a copy+paste13:28
ikoniatotally13:29
ikoniathat's why I was writing on my local machine before formatting13:29
tsimpsongreat, once it's up, just change the link over in the factoid13:30
ikoniatsimpson: is that your page/link currently ?13:30
ikoniaor just a random ones13:31
tsimpsonthat's Stéphane Graber's blog13:31
tsimpson(stgraber)13:31
ikoniaI'm not aware of Stéphane13:31
tsimpsonhe works for Canonical, on the foundations team I think13:32
tsimpsonI'm confident in the source material, if that's what you're asking ;)13:32
ikoniathat wasn't where my first question was going....but it was certainly where it would have ended up13:33
tsimpsonI wouldn't have stuck a random link in ubottu anyway13:33
ikoniano, but good information against solid information is useful to know13:34
ikoniait's not subjective/someones opinion13:34
ikoniait's useful to know13:34
* jrib gives up on trying to enforce /away14:00
jribtsimpson, Pici: where does one report such things?15:04
Picijrib: Either on the ubuntu-website project on launchpad, or into #canonical-sysadmin15:04
tsimpsonboth are equally slow ;)15:04
PiciI looked at the latter first.15:04
jribthanks15:07
Joitello, since when is "lame" an abused word at ubuntu related channels, or is it only, when one user complain about it, when you use it?16:52
ikoniaJoit: you where asked by a user to stop multiple times16:53
ikoniathe reason she found it offensive was clearly explained16:53
ikoniayou continued to argue it rather than just stopping16:53
Joitikonia that was not myquestion16:53
ikoniayou got removed from the channel16:53
Joitso, if i ask any thing in a channel, when i am often there, other users have to do what i want, because i am famous?16:54
ikoniaJoit: it's not "abused" it's derogatory and inappropriate for the conversation you where having, hence why a user in the channel asked you to stop16:54
Joitcan someone else answer this pls, not Ikonia?16:54
ikonianot at all16:54
ikoniaa user asked you not to use the phrase "lame" to describe things as she didn't see how it related to a disability and found it offensive16:54
ikoniayou chose to keep trying to argue it rather than just stop using "lame"16:54
Joitthats a bit one sided ikonia16:54
ikoniano, it's not16:54
ikoniaI was in the channel watching, hence why I removed you16:54
Joitits the same, as if i am a channel op, and behave like i want16:55
ikoniathat has nothing to do with it16:55
ikoniaI used the phrase lame also in response to you, maco didn't like it, I stopped and didn't use it again16:55
ikoniaI abided by the request the same as you should have16:55
Joiti pasted at last only a link from the dictionary, that he can update his knowledge from the definition from the word16:55
ikoniathe definition maco gave was pretty much the same context as your dictionary16:56
Joitwhen somenoe says, you are blond, then i dont need to be insulted, because I AM Blond16:56
PiciWe try to respect other users, and the request to not use that word isn't unheard of.16:56
ikoniaand posting the dictionary doesn't change the fact that maco didn't like the word in context to the discussion16:56
ikoniaJoit: that's the point, you where referencing something that wasn't "lame"16:56
Joitikonia: that is his personal problem, i know a lot words too, what i dotn want to hear, but have to read often16:57
Joiti remeber having a similar discussion with handycapped persons too, and they dont feeled bothere16:57
Joitd16:57
ikoniathat's not going to change anything16:57
Joitotherwise, it was even fun with them to talk16:57
ikoniaJoit: you're question has been answered16:57
Joitthis answer sounds more like, you did anser it for you, but not for me16:58
Piciwhat16:58
Joitall i see is a abuse from channel op rights16:58
ikoniaI'm sorry you feel that way. Anything else we can help you with ?16:59
JoitPici:  her explanation is not really logical, and btw, maco only asked me ONCE not few times16:59
PiciJoit: Why should anyone need to be asked more than once?17:00
Joitnot the point, but ikonia claimed, he asked me few times, what is not true17:00
Joitso arguing with false statements is not really the way it should go17:01
ikoniaJoit: sorry, I'll be more clear. You where asked not to use it once, you asked why and you where given a solid description from maco why17:01
ikoniayou then continued17:01
Joiti did not continue, to use it, i pasted the definition17:01
Piciwhy? No one was talking about it anymore.17:02
Joitthats a big different, in case you dont understand it, and no reeeason to remove someone from the channel17:02
ikoniahow did that change anything ? the user in question made it clear her reasons, a dictionary definition doesn't change that, especially when the definition was pretty much what the user had said17:02
Joiti was not even so far, to use it further17:03
ikoniawell, you've had it explained for you now, I'm not sure what else you want17:03
Pici@mark Joit Disagrees with ikonia's kick17:03
ubottuThe operation succeeded.17:03
ikoniathere we go, it's noted in the logs17:04
PiciJoit: You're not banned.17:04
Joiti know, i am actually only here becaus of my first question, but anyhow ikonia can make a drama ith it17:04
Joiti was actually more about it to ask a neutral question17:05
Joitbut ikonia seems to need to defend ehr first heavy17:05
ikoniayou asked why it was unacceptable, I've explained it17:05
ikoniathere is nothing to defend17:05
PiciJoit: Did you get the answer to your question, or do you need me to restate it?17:05
Joit[18:52:59] <Joit> ello, since when is "lame" an abused word at ubuntu related channels, or is it only, when one user complain about it, when you use it?17:06
PiciJoit: Did you get the answer to your question, or do you need me to restate it?17:06
JoitPici: thats not the answer to my question, it actually only looks like an answer, what you wanna give, and you have op rights , som, your opinion as op is right.17:07
JoitPici: i told you the example, we did talkw ith handy capped persons in the channel, and they did not feeled bothered17:08
Joitevewn, why dont you know, if i am not handycapped17:08
PiciJoit: We try to respect the views of our users. The request to not use the word 'lame' is not unreasonable.17:08
Joitok17:09
Joitseriously, nothing is more hard as to discuss with a women. BUT I did NOT look at someone or call a name :P17:11
macooh sexism as well?17:12
PiciJoit: You don't need to be handicapped or a minority or whatever to be offended by words that can be used in a derogatory manner.  And while 'lame' has somewhat entered the general lexicon, I think it would be rude to continue to use it if someone requested that that I stop.17:12
PiciAnd I have no idea why you needed to bring gender into this.17:13
lars__Hello!17:16
lars__ikonia:17:16
lars__Why am I banned?=17:16
ikonialars__: you know you are banned from #ubuntu due to your past behaviour, I can't discuss this now, so please just leave17:16
lars__Yes i know17:16
ikoniaok - bye then17:16
lars__but i want to be unban17:16
ikoniaPici: Joit apologies for interupting17:17
PiciJoit: Is there anything else?17:17
Joitpici, well you answered at last the question simple17:17
Joitbut ikonia for what i appologize, or for what i dont, leave that by me, and dont put me words into my mouth pls17:18
ikoniawhat ?17:18
macoJoit: ikonia was apologizing to you for the interruption with lars17:19
macoikonia's client just puts the : automatically after the first person whose nick is completed17:19
Joitah, i now see that17:19
Joitikonia:  then its no problem you should can discuss with 2, i can kinda multitask, so no excuse neded by me17:20
ubottukubuntu called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()17:20
Joitok, lets then end no the discussion, i have other things to do too17:20
Joitat last, where do i fill a bug for klipper, :P thats not at the ubuntu bug tracker17:21
Joitlets then end this discussion*17:21
ikoniayou use the ubuntu bug tracker as I told you17:21
Joitklipper is kde related?17:21
Joitthought its maybe better to write directly at kde17:22
ikoniaok, then kde.org17:22
Joitwell, i may try it. Bye17:22
ikoniabye17:22
macobtw, in kubuntu we do prefer people go directly to kde17:23
ikonianoted17:23
macothere are waaaay not enough people in kubuntut to handle all the bug reports17:24
ikoniayes, I can see that would be a problem17:24
Picisorry, was talking to one of my coworkers, wasn't sure if you needed me here.17:34
Piciand I guess not.17:35
FuchsPici: minor sidenote, alteregoa is one of the few forever guests on the #ubuntu-de* ban list17:44
PiciFuchs: He has a history here too.17:47
PiciI'm sort of waiting for an excuse to ban him again.17:47
Fuchsnot a big surprise, I thought I might inform you guys anyway17:47
Fuchs*and gals17:47
yanoi got a message from ubottu about 'reviewing' a ban, is it expecting a response from me? (the link it provides is dead, ie: it just says come in here)18:38
Myrttiif you marked it with eir, it's fine18:39
Myrttiubottu pulls the information from eir18:39
ubottuMyrtti: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:39
Myrttiyes yes, shush you stupid bot18:39
yanohm, i'll check with eir, as i can't really remember18:39
yanohm, eir doesn't have a match of the hostmask for the given ubuntu room18:41
oCeanyano: eirid 3646418:41
yanothat's a different ban i set than the one ubottu is bugging me about18:42
oCeanoh, most likely. Ubottu does not remind you of the eir bans, she has a mind of her own18:43
yanoah, does it want me to remove it, comment on it, or just know that i'm aware of the ban?18:43
yanoby it i mean ubottu18:43
oCeanyano, just answer her "shaddap"18:44
yanohehe18:44
oCeanubottu: shaddap18:44
ubottu:X18:44
oCeansee?18:44
yanolol18:44
oCeanyano: don't worry about it too much, we'll get it eventually, the ban she's complaining about I mean18:45
yanook, i just didn't want to leave it lost in the abyss18:46
oCeanyano: which id ubottu says it is about?18:47
yanoi think, 48543, as the ending of the url says log=4854318:47
oCeanoh, for -ot18:48
oCeaneir is not aware of bans/mutes in ot18:48
yanoyea for offtopic18:48
yanoah18:48
oCeanoh him, trolling about kardashian girl again18:49
ubottuIn #ubuntu, alusion said: !tab guntbert that is correct19:33
* Pici sighs19:33
kevinisexploiterHELLO BELOVID UBUNTU OPS TEAM21:27
kevinisexploiterCAN I GET BACK ON #UBUNTU21:27
kevinisexploiterIVE GOT SOME NEW COMPUTER INTERFACING DEVICES TO SOLVE PROBLEMS OF THE PAST WHATEVER THEY WERE21:28
yanoless caps please21:30
kevinisexploiterI MUST USE CAPS TO PROPERLY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU21:31
yanono, caps are un-necessary on the Internet. it's considered a form of shouting21:31
kevinisexploiterU ARE POSSIBLY HACKTILIAS ON TALKING ME OUT OF CAPS??21:32
kevinisexploiterDO NOT PROCIEVE THIS AS SHOUTING PLEASE21:33
popey@btlogin21:34
kevinisexploiterCAPS MEAN IT IMPORTANT21:34
kevinisexploiterITS IMPORTANT21:34
kevinisexploiterSTILL A BIT OF INTERFACING ISSUES21:34
kevinisexploiterANYBODY THIER21:37
kevinisexploiter???21:37
elkykevinisexploiter, firstly, quit the caps. secondly, please be honest with us.21:41
kevinisexploiterI AM TOTALLY HONEST AND I AM SORRY BUT CAPS IS THE ONLY WAY TO AVIOD CONFUSION WHAT IS SO HORRIBLE ABOUT CAPS??21:42
kevinisexploiterPOSSIBLY NOT HAVING CONFUSION??21:43
elky<GuShH> OP on ##electronics please, we've got a case of massive trollage and no ops are around at the time. Thanks. <GuShH> The user is "kevinisexploiter"23:11
elkyyano, what was he doing?23:11
yanomostly talking in caps after being told to stop and ranting on about foxconn23:12
elkycute23:14
wilee-nileeHello ops can you add the daily http to the #ubuntu+1 channel messages.23:45

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