[00:53] <kevin25> hello
[00:53] <kevin25> can i get unbanned from #ubuntu
[00:57] <elky> no.
[01:02] <kevin__> so what do i need to do to get unbanned
[01:03] <bazhang> kevin__, stop coming here every day
[01:03] <kevin__> i need to get back on ubuntu channel please
[01:03] <bazhang> askubuntu.com kevin__
[01:03] <kevin__> please tell me what needs to be done
[01:04] <kevin__> u cannot deny me this channel cause of what u think i did
[01:04] <bazhang> kevin__, coming here every day will not make that happen sooner
[01:04] <kevin__> u dont want me to talk to professionals ive not botherd u for months about this dangit until yesterday i need this now please
[01:07] <kevin__> u give me no choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:07] <bazhang> ?
[01:15] <IdleOne> kevin__: it is time for you to part this channel, please.
[01:18] <IdleOne> okie dokie
[01:36] <elky> /cs k IdleOne Please do not idleone in #ubuntu-ops ;)
[01:36] <elky> tehehehe
[02:44]  * elky raises an eyebrow at bazhang 
[02:45] <bazhang> elky, yes?
[02:46] <elky> just making sure you're around as backup
[02:46] <bazhang> for the misogyny in -ot?
[02:46] <elky> yuh
[04:29] <cryptopsy> you all make me sick
[04:29] <cryptopsy> fuck you
[04:42] <elky> Well that was a nice quick resolution.
[04:47] <bioterror> 2012-01-25 06:18:54     ::      cryptopsy (~cryptopsy@unaffiliated/aborticide) has joined #archlinux
[04:47] <bioterror> same guy
[04:49] <elky> cryptopsy is a loooooooong time issue on the network
[04:50] <bioterror> some people never grow up
[09:40] <knome> how can we set chanserv notify-stuff?
[09:52] <knome> nevermind, that was an xchat issue.
[13:26] <Pici> We probably should setup a factoid for the new resolv.conf behavior.
[13:27] <tsimpson> !resolvconf
[13:27] <ikonia> I was trying to get a document together on it
[13:27] <tsimpson> please update to make it not suck :)
[13:27] <Pici> tsimpson: oh, neat.
[13:27] <ikonia> maybe put it into the ubuntu wiki ?
[13:28] <ikonia> so it's an "official" document
[13:28] <tsimpson> that would be the ideal, but I think it'd be more than a copy+paste
[13:29] <ikonia> totally
[13:29] <ikonia> that's why I was writing on my local machine before formatting
[13:30] <tsimpson> great, once it's up, just change the link over in the factoid
[13:30] <ikonia> tsimpson: is that your page/link currently ?
[13:31] <ikonia> or just a random ones
[13:31] <tsimpson> that's Stéphane Graber's blog
[13:31] <tsimpson> (stgraber)
[13:31] <ikonia> I'm not aware of Stéphane
[13:32] <tsimpson> he works for Canonical, on the foundations team I think
[13:32] <tsimpson> I'm confident in the source material, if that's what you're asking ;)
[13:33] <ikonia> that wasn't where my first question was going....but it was certainly where it would have ended up
[13:33] <tsimpson> I wouldn't have stuck a random link in ubottu anyway
[13:34] <ikonia> no, but good information against solid information is useful to know
[13:34] <ikonia> it's not subjective/someones opinion
[13:34] <ikonia> it's useful to know
[14:00]  * jrib gives up on trying to enforce /away
[15:04] <jrib> tsimpson, Pici: where does one report such things?
[15:04] <Pici> jrib: Either on the ubuntu-website project on launchpad, or into #canonical-sysadmin
[15:04] <tsimpson> both are equally slow ;)
[15:04] <Pici> I looked at the latter first.
[15:07] <jrib> thanks
[16:52] <Joit> ello, since when is "lame" an abused word at ubuntu related channels, or is it only, when one user complain about it, when you use it?
[16:53] <ikonia> Joit: you where asked by a user to stop multiple times
[16:53] <ikonia> the reason she found it offensive was clearly explained
[16:53] <ikonia> you continued to argue it rather than just stopping
[16:53] <Joit> ikonia that was not myquestion
[16:53] <ikonia> you got removed from the channel
[16:54] <Joit> so, if i ask any thing in a channel, when i am often there, other users have to do what i want, because i am famous?
[16:54] <ikonia> Joit: it's not "abused" it's derogatory and inappropriate for the conversation you where having, hence why a user in the channel asked you to stop
[16:54] <Joit> can someone else answer this pls, not Ikonia?
[16:54] <ikonia> not at all
[16:54] <ikonia> a user asked you not to use the phrase "lame" to describe things as she didn't see how it related to a disability and found it offensive
[16:54] <ikonia> you chose to keep trying to argue it rather than just stop using "lame"
[16:54] <Joit> thats a bit one sided ikonia
[16:54] <ikonia> no, it's not
[16:54] <ikonia> I was in the channel watching, hence why I removed you
[16:55] <Joit> its the same, as if i am a channel op, and behave like i want
[16:55] <ikonia> that has nothing to do with it
[16:55] <ikonia> I used the phrase lame also in response to you, maco didn't like it, I stopped and didn't use it again
[16:55] <ikonia> I abided by the request the same as you should have
[16:55] <Joit> i pasted at last only a link from the dictionary, that he can update his knowledge from the definition from the word
[16:56] <ikonia> the definition maco gave was pretty much the same context as your dictionary
[16:56] <Joit> when somenoe says, you are blond, then i dont need to be insulted, because I AM Blond
[16:56] <Pici> We try to respect other users, and the request to not use that word isn't unheard of.
[16:56] <ikonia> and posting the dictionary doesn't change the fact that maco didn't like the word in context to the discussion
[16:56] <ikonia> Joit: that's the point, you where referencing something that wasn't "lame"
[16:57] <Joit> ikonia: that is his personal problem, i know a lot words too, what i dotn want to hear, but have to read often
[16:57] <Joit> i remeber having a similar discussion with handycapped persons too, and they dont feeled bothere
[16:57] <Joit> d
[16:57] <ikonia> that's not going to change anything
[16:57] <Joit> otherwise, it was even fun with them to talk
[16:57] <ikonia> Joit: you're question has been answered
[16:58] <Joit> this answer sounds more like, you did anser it for you, but not for me
[16:58] <Pici> what
[16:58] <Joit> all i see is a abuse from channel op rights
[16:59] <ikonia> I'm sorry you feel that way. Anything else we can help you with ?
[16:59] <Joit> Pici:  her explanation is not really logical, and btw, maco only asked me ONCE not few times
[17:00] <Pici> Joit: Why should anyone need to be asked more than once?
[17:00] <Joit> not the point, but ikonia claimed, he asked me few times, what is not true
[17:01] <Joit> so arguing with false statements is not really the way it should go
[17:01] <ikonia> Joit: sorry, I'll be more clear. You where asked not to use it once, you asked why and you where given a solid description from maco why
[17:01] <ikonia> you then continued
[17:01] <Joit> i did not continue, to use it, i pasted the definition
[17:02] <Pici> why? No one was talking about it anymore.
[17:02] <Joit> thats a big different, in case you dont understand it, and no reeeason to remove someone from the channel
[17:02] <ikonia> how did that change anything ? the user in question made it clear her reasons, a dictionary definition doesn't change that, especially when the definition was pretty much what the user had said
[17:03] <Joit> i was not even so far, to use it further
[17:03] <ikonia> well, you've had it explained for you now, I'm not sure what else you want
[17:03] <Pici> @mark Joit Disagrees with ikonia's kick
[17:04] <ikonia> there we go, it's noted in the logs
[17:04] <Pici> Joit: You're not banned.
[17:04] <Joit> i know, i am actually only here becaus of my first question, but anyhow ikonia can make a drama ith it
[17:05] <Joit> i was actually more about it to ask a neutral question
[17:05] <Joit> but ikonia seems to need to defend ehr first heavy
[17:05] <ikonia> you asked why it was unacceptable, I've explained it
[17:05] <ikonia> there is nothing to defend
[17:05] <Pici> Joit: Did you get the answer to your question, or do you need me to restate it?
[17:06] <Joit> [18:52:59] <Joit> ello, since when is "lame" an abused word at ubuntu related channels, or is it only, when one user complain about it, when you use it?
[17:06] <Pici> Joit: Did you get the answer to your question, or do you need me to restate it?
[17:07] <Joit> Pici: thats not the answer to my question, it actually only looks like an answer, what you wanna give, and you have op rights , som, your opinion as op is right.
[17:08] <Joit> Pici: i told you the example, we did talkw ith handy capped persons in the channel, and they did not feeled bothered
[17:08] <Joit> evewn, why dont you know, if i am not handycapped
[17:08] <Pici> Joit: We try to respect the views of our users. The request to not use the word 'lame' is not unreasonable.
[17:09] <Joit> ok
[17:11] <Joit> seriously, nothing is more hard as to discuss with a women. BUT I did NOT look at someone or call a name :P
[17:12] <maco> oh sexism as well?
[17:12] <Pici> Joit: You don't need to be handicapped or a minority or whatever to be offended by words that can be used in a derogatory manner.  And while 'lame' has somewhat entered the general lexicon, I think it would be rude to continue to use it if someone requested that that I stop.
[17:13] <Pici> And I have no idea why you needed to bring gender into this.
[17:16] <lars__> Hello!
[17:16] <lars__> ikonia:
[17:16] <lars__> Why am I banned?=
[17:16] <ikonia> lars__: you know you are banned from #ubuntu due to your past behaviour, I can't discuss this now, so please just leave
[17:16] <lars__> Yes i know
[17:16] <ikonia> ok - bye then
[17:16] <lars__> but i want to be unban
[17:17] <ikonia> Pici: Joit apologies for interupting
[17:17] <Pici> Joit: Is there anything else?
[17:17] <Joit> pici, well you answered at last the question simple
[17:18] <Joit> but ikonia for what i appologize, or for what i dont, leave that by me, and dont put me words into my mouth pls
[17:18] <ikonia> what ?
[17:19] <maco> Joit: ikonia was apologizing to you for the interruption with lars
[17:19] <maco> ikonia's client just puts the : automatically after the first person whose nick is completed
[17:19] <Joit> ah, i now see that
[17:20] <Joit> ikonia:  then its no problem you should can discuss with 2, i can kinda multitask, so no excuse neded by me
[17:20] <Joit> ok, lets then end no the discussion, i have other things to do too
[17:21] <Joit> at last, where do i fill a bug for klipper, :P thats not at the ubuntu bug tracker
[17:21] <Joit> lets then end this discussion*
[17:21] <ikonia> you use the ubuntu bug tracker as I told you
[17:21] <Joit> klipper is kde related?
[17:22] <Joit> thought its maybe better to write directly at kde
[17:22] <ikonia> ok, then kde.org
[17:22] <Joit> well, i may try it. Bye
[17:22] <ikonia> bye
[17:23] <maco> btw, in kubuntu we do prefer people go directly to kde
[17:23] <ikonia> noted
[17:24] <maco> there are waaaay not enough people in kubuntut to handle all the bug reports
[17:24] <ikonia> yes, I can see that would be a problem
[17:34] <Pici> sorry, was talking to one of my coworkers, wasn't sure if you needed me here.
[17:35] <Pici> and I guess not.
[17:44] <Fuchs> Pici: minor sidenote, alteregoa is one of the few forever guests on the #ubuntu-de* ban list
[17:47] <Pici> Fuchs: He has a history here too.
[17:47] <Pici> I'm sort of waiting for an excuse to ban him again.
[17:47] <Fuchs> not a big surprise, I thought I might inform you guys anyway
[17:47] <Fuchs> *and gals
[18:38] <yano> i got a message from ubottu about 'reviewing' a ban, is it expecting a response from me? (the link it provides is dead, ie: it just says come in here)
[18:39] <Myrtti> if you marked it with eir, it's fine
[18:39] <Myrtti> ubottu pulls the information from eir
[18:39] <Myrtti> yes yes, shush you stupid bot
[18:39] <yano> hm, i'll check with eir, as i can't really remember
[18:41] <yano> hm, eir doesn't have a match of the hostmask for the given ubuntu room
[18:41] <oCean> yano: eirid 36464
[18:42] <yano> that's a different ban i set than the one ubottu is bugging me about
[18:43] <oCean> oh, most likely. Ubottu does not remind you of the eir bans, she has a mind of her own
[18:43] <yano> ah, does it want me to remove it, comment on it, or just know that i'm aware of the ban?
[18:43] <yano> by it i mean ubottu
[18:44] <oCean> yano, just answer her "shaddap"
[18:44] <yano> hehe
[18:44] <oCean> ubottu: shaddap
[18:44] <oCean> see?
[18:44] <yano> lol
[18:45] <oCean> yano: don't worry about it too much, we'll get it eventually, the ban she's complaining about I mean
[18:46] <yano> ok, i just didn't want to leave it lost in the abyss
[18:47] <oCean> yano: which id ubottu says it is about?
[18:47] <yano> i think, 48543, as the ending of the url says log=48543
[18:48] <oCean> oh, for -ot
[18:48] <oCean> eir is not aware of bans/mutes in ot
[18:48] <yano> yea for offtopic
[18:48] <yano> ah
[18:49] <oCean> oh him, trolling about kardashian girl again
[19:33]  * Pici sighs
[21:27] <kevinisexploiter> HELLO BELOVID UBUNTU OPS TEAM
[21:27] <kevinisexploiter> CAN I GET BACK ON #UBUNTU
[21:28] <kevinisexploiter> IVE GOT SOME NEW COMPUTER INTERFACING DEVICES TO SOLVE PROBLEMS OF THE PAST WHATEVER THEY WERE
[21:30] <yano> less caps please
[21:31] <kevinisexploiter> I MUST USE CAPS TO PROPERLY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU
[21:31] <yano> no, caps are un-necessary on the Internet. it's considered a form of shouting
[21:32] <kevinisexploiter> U ARE POSSIBLY HACKTILIAS ON TALKING ME OUT OF CAPS??
[21:33] <kevinisexploiter> DO NOT PROCIEVE THIS AS SHOUTING PLEASE
[21:34] <popey> @btlogin
[21:34] <kevinisexploiter> CAPS MEAN IT IMPORTANT
[21:34] <kevinisexploiter> ITS IMPORTANT
[21:34] <kevinisexploiter> STILL A BIT OF INTERFACING ISSUES
[21:37] <kevinisexploiter> ANYBODY THIER
[21:37] <kevinisexploiter> ???
[21:41] <elky> kevinisexploiter, firstly, quit the caps. secondly, please be honest with us.
[21:42] <kevinisexploiter> I AM TOTALLY HONEST AND I AM SORRY BUT CAPS IS THE ONLY WAY TO AVIOD CONFUSION WHAT IS SO HORRIBLE ABOUT CAPS??
[21:43] <kevinisexploiter> POSSIBLY NOT HAVING CONFUSION??
 OP on ##electronics please, we've got a case of massive trollage and no ops are around at the time. Thanks. <GuShH> The user is "kevinisexploiter"
[23:11] <elky> yano, what was he doing?
[23:12] <yano> mostly talking in caps after being told to stop and ranting on about foxconn
[23:14] <elky> cute
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> Hello ops can you add the daily http to the #ubuntu+1 channel messages.