[02:45] <paulproteus> Hey pleia2, are there evening events at UDS today?
[02:45] <paulproteus> (wiretapped, are you going to UDS?) My friend geofft said there was something 7p-9pm but I don't seem  to find info about it on the web
[02:45] <paulproteus> Oh hi geofft
[02:45] <paulproteus> Maybe you'll answer here.
[02:47]  * paulproteus feels silly not knowing where the party is.
[02:47] <akk> They sure don't make it obvious where to look for such things.
[02:48] <akk> I don't see anything in the schedule or on "other events", but I know there are some parties some nights and I don't see any listed.
[02:53] <paulproteus> In other news, pleia2's amazing page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UDS-Q is super clear. Three chears for that!
[02:53] <paulproteus> Er, cheers.
[02:53] <paulproteus> Gosh.
[02:55] <akk> It is super-clear, but I think it's just unsanctioned events ... e.g. I see no mention of a google party but I know there's supposed to be one.
[02:56] <paulproteus> http://uds.ubuntu.com/event/ !
[02:56] <paulproteus> There we are, evening events.
[02:59] <paulproteus> Good news is now, I know where the party is.
[02:59] <paulproteus> Bad news for them is, I'll go join them!! (;
[04:54] <itnet7_uds> akk: if you're already here at uds the ticket for the google party is found within the swag bag
[05:00] <Ademan-remote2> pleia2: I don't suppose you'll be bringing more local badges tomorrow?
[05:02] <pleia2> Ademan-remote2: no, sorry, I've run out :(
[05:03]  * pleia2 should have made a lot more
[05:04]  * Ademan-remote2 agrees
[05:04] <Ademan-remote2> I'll attend an balug to get one!
[05:37] <MarkDude> Good times at UDS
[05:39] <philipballew> MarkDude, I was gonna stop and say hi, but I had to help a few people right then...
[05:40] <MarkDude> No stress
[05:40] <MarkDude> I will be there earlier tomorrow
[05:40] <philipballew> free breakfast
[05:55] <MarkDude> Well there is a Community Manager breakfast in the city at 8
[06:42] <DonkeyHotei> there's a google party?
[06:48] <pleia2> tomorrow night google is sponsoring: http://uds.ubuntu.com/event/
[06:48] <pleia2> "Run away to the circus with Google!"
[06:48] <DonkeyHotei> ah
[06:48] <pleia2> there are food and drink tickets in your conference bag
[06:48] <DonkeyHotei> i saw those
[06:48] <DonkeyHotei> at first i thought they were for tonight
[06:49] <DonkeyHotei> i never did find anyone with an irc nick longer than 15, but apparently eps did, and it didn't occur to me to ask who
[07:35] <gua> So there's going to be a keysigning party at UDS, and not having made a key before, I'm not sure what expiry time I should set, if any. What's the general practice with that? Just set it to never expire then send out a revocation if it's ever compromised?
[07:35] <gua> (btw feel free to answer if I'm gone, I'll check the logs)
[07:36] <DonkeyHotei> idk whether they might not like the fact that my key is DSA instead of RSA
[07:36] <DonkeyHotei> (don't make new DSA keys, folks)
[07:37] <gua> heh
[07:44] <gua> Never is a long time. I'm leaning towards 5 or 10 years.
[07:46] <DonkeyHotei> i set mine to a little while, and then i set it to never
[07:47] <DonkeyHotei> revocation certs are standard
[07:48] <gua> DonkeyHotei: Can you do a thing where you make a new key, then sign the new key with the old key, and so that makes it so everyone that signed your old key basically signed your new key?
[07:58] <bkerensa> gnight all
[14:35] <geofft> gua: You can change the expiration on your key later (provided it hasn't expired and you still have the private key)
[14:36] <geofft> gua: so I would set it to something like a year if you're still figuring out where a secure place to keep your key is
[14:37] <geofft> gua: crap. having said that I realized my key expired in January
[14:37] <geofft> so maybe don't follow my advice :)
[14:38] <geofft> 5-10 years should be fine though.
[14:43]  * DonkeyHotei changed his from a year or something to infinite, as previously stated
[15:59] <geofft> Where do we get one of those nifty "I'm a local" badges?
[16:00] <Faqtotum> i doubt there are any more; ask pleia2
[16:00] <pleia2> sorry, ran out very early yesterday (there were only 15 of them)
[16:02] <geofft> aw :(
[16:03] <paulproteus> geofft: Yo
[16:06] <geofft> paulproteus: *waves* Did you make it to the thing last night? My phone died midday so I missed your texts
[16:06] <paulproteus> Yeah, totally did. It was grand. You're at UDS now? I think I'll head in around noon.
[16:06] <geofft> I'm in the BART tunnel :(
[16:45] <paulproteus> BTW, has anyone been to the Metreon's food court? It seems like a good place to host a hackathon, if the power and wifi actually work.
[16:45] <paulproteus> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/02/BUHA1N1UES.DTL
[16:46] <pleia2> I go there often
[16:46] <Faqtotum> did that with sf2600 years ago
[16:46] <pleia2> there is always a lot of space, but you might need to get permission because they do have security and stuff, may not be cool to just bring in 50 people with laptops and camp out :)
[16:47] <paulproteus> I'm thinking 4-8 people tops for this one.
[16:47] <paulproteus> Power and wifi seem to actually work, though, in your experience?
[16:48] <paulproteus> I'm quite excited by the idea of eating at La Boulange and having power and wifi.
[16:48] <paulproteus> And to my glee there is a Boulange there in the Metreon. (-:
[16:48] <pleia2> I haven't used the power, but the wifi tends to be good
[16:48] <akk> paulproteus: I remember it as being very noisy.
[16:48] <paulproteus> Mmm, even on a Sunday?
[16:49] <Faqtotum> you'd need to bring power strips, no question
[16:49] <paulproteus> Good to know + can do that
[17:17] <geofft> and my PGP key is no longer expired.
[17:19] <geofft> I'm not really sure whether I'm comfortable with having been able to do that...
[20:24] <yantrashilpi> hello all. have a question about UDS. Is there anyway to view or listen to the "plenary" sessions live? I didn't see any links on the ubuntu summit website.
[21:46] <paulproteus> pleia2: Nice talk! (:
[21:46] <pleia2> paulproteus: thanks :)
[21:48] <Faqtotum> i'm more encouraged by ubuntu-studio
[21:49] <Faqtotum> as for edubuntu, a thought: cloud-based ltsp
[21:49] <Faqtotum> might be viable now
[21:49] <Faqtotum> nice to see lubuntu mature, too
[21:51] <paulproteus> Of the Ubuntu contributors here, are you excited by Ubuntu Accomplishments?
[21:52] <paulproteus> I find it interesting that all the derivatives said "We need more people!!" but didn't mention Accomplishments.
[21:52] <pleia2> I think it's geared toward newer contributors who are motivated by things like that (the current contributors obviously have their own motivations)
[21:53] <pleia2> we'll see how it goes for Ubuntu before we spend the dev time to add accomplishments ;)
[21:54] <paulproteus> (-:
[21:55] <broder> gamification is definitely a thing, and is an effective motivator until you get bored of it
[21:56] <grantbow> +1
[21:58] <broder> i...didn't expect him to actually finish that on time
[21:59] <paulproteus> Yeah I'm kind of surprised as well.
[22:03] <paulproteus> By the way, while I'm here on IRC... if anyone is willing to help be a reviewer for http://openhatch.org/missions/ we could really use that.
[22:04] <paulproteus> I and other OpenHatch people are making changes to those teaching tools, and we could use people to look over the changes we're making and ensure they are truly improvements.
[22:05] <paulproteus> If you want to learn more, do join in #openhatch ; I'll stop advertising here for now (: