[00:16] <rick_h_> crap, was checking out the regular rides the local bike group does and the only one I can make is a 45mi weekend ride...ouch!
[01:10] <jrwren> i did the 2 command lxc thing today. totally sweet. soooo easy and powerful and awesome.
[01:15] <rick_h_> awesome, I need to play with lxc some
[01:18] <jrwren> i'm very impressed
[01:23] <rick_h_> it's getting a lot of use with things lately and growing up quick I think
[01:27] <jrwren> i just love that its kinda a VM, but not.
[01:27] <jrwren> so I'm still running on bare metal, but I can do things like have a completely different apt environment and dev env and stuff
[01:29] <rick_h_> yea, you're supposed to be able to make it a juju target I believe
[01:29] <rick_h_> and there's a team using lxc containers to parrallelize launchpad tests
[01:30] <rick_h_> since it's same machine easier to get setup, but allows for diff cpu/cores to do the cranking
[01:52] <jrwren> oh yeah, lxc deb ships with templates and one of htem is ubuntu-cloud
[01:52] <jrwren> juju OOTB with it
[12:02] <brousch> geekers. tried setting up ubuntu for someone and got bit by bug 972823
[12:03] <rick_h_> doh
[12:06] <brousch> 11.10 works, so i'll just use that
[12:10] <CrusaderAD> Hey everyone, need some guru help... anyone have any experience reading from a usb or com port scale (weight) using web technology? Java, PHP...
[12:11] <brousch> CrusaderAD: the next GRPUG meeting will be covering the pyserial module
[12:12] <shakes808> MOrning all
[12:14] <brousch> yo
[12:14] <CrusaderAD> brousch: when/where is that?
[12:15] <brousch> monday, may 14 at calvin college in grand rapids
[12:15] <CrusaderAD> damn, a work day
[12:16] <shakes808> Did You Know? A polar bear's skin is black. Its fur is not white, but actually clear.
[12:16] <shakes808> Just thought you all would like to know that :D
[12:16] <brousch> 6pm
[12:17] <CrusaderAD> I'd have to leave at 3 or 4... what are they covering? do they have a site?
[12:19] <brousch> using pyserial with a variety of serial devices
[12:19] <brousch> http://grpug.org
[13:24] <jrwren> the other thing cool about lxc is that its not a VM. if testdrive optionally moves to lxc it will highly benefit from memory sharing.
[13:26] <jrwren> a polar bear's skin is black? really? fur is clear? then why does it look white?
[13:41] <snap-l> jrwren: Refraction, iirc.
[14:12] <rick_h_> GGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[14:51] <brousch> rick_h_++
[14:52] <brousch> it took me 2 hours to figure out how to bold some text in autocad using c#
[14:52] <rick_h_> the great coding gods giveth...and they taketh...
[14:52] <brousch> this is a miserable experience
[14:52] <shakes808> lol
[14:52] <jrwren> com interop is always a bitch.
[14:52] <shakes808> At least you got it to do something :D
[14:52] <brousch> .net
[14:53] <jrwren> nah, the .net part is easy.
[14:53] <jrwren> are you at least using C#4 where you can use optional and default params with your com interop?
[14:53] <shakes808> How are you liking VS?
[14:53] <brousch> a crappy thing is i have to start autocad, issue the netload command, select my dll, run my command, then close autocad to modify the project
[14:54] <brousch> so every little change i want to try requires me to open and close autocad. i've done it like 1000 times trying to bold
[14:55] <brousch> visual studio is fine. it's the autocad .net api docs and lack of netunload that are miserable
[14:56] <brousch> i can't believe people actually write whole programs in this thing
[14:56] <shakes808> C# or the autocad stuff?
[14:58] <brousch> autocad
[14:58] <brousch> i used to think autocad addons were way overpriced, now that i see the pain they go through i think they are dirt cheap
[14:58] <rick_h_> lol
[15:02] <shakes808> HA HA
[15:59] <jrwren> rick_h_: list of my tags or tag cloud on bookie, or a long term feature
[16:03] <jrwren> and... https://bmark.us/recent/jrwren/performance?count=50&page=0  doesn't actually filter by performance
[16:03] <rick_h_> jrwren: https://bmark.us/jrwren/tags
[16:03] <jrwren> thanks.
[16:04] <rick_h_> jrwren: right, the username is backwards again
[16:04] <rick_h_> https://bmark.us/jrwren/recent/performance
[16:05] <jrwren> lol include file="bmarks.mako"
[16:05] <jrwren> aurora hates bookie
[16:05] <rick_h_> in what url?
[16:05]  * rick_h_ is running auorora
[16:06] <jrwren> in the output.
[16:06] <jrwren> err, lol, in the html
[16:06] <rick_h_> right, for wihch url?
[16:07] <rick_h_> I don't see the include line on either link
[16:07] <jrwren> https://bmark.us/jrwren/tags/regex
[16:07] <rick_h_> oh right, yea the tags view isn't linked for a reason
[16:08] <rick_h_> so it's not very functional
[19:21] <snap-l> Whew, fun dat
[19:21] <snap-l> day, evne
[19:21] <snap-l> even
[19:21] <snap-l> LTSP tonight at MUG. Be there, and be enlightened.
[19:21] <snap-l> rick_h_: I have something for you as well
[19:22] <snap-l> MUG: Shawn Powers of Linux Journal fame will be there.
[19:22] <shakes808> snap-l: can't wait to go
[19:22] <snap-l> shakes808: WEll, you'll probably want to go before you leave
[19:23] <shakes808> I will most likely pay my dues after we get paid this week to become an official member :D
[19:23] <snap-l> Very cool
[19:23] <shakes808> what?
[19:23] <snap-l> YOu can do it via Paypal, iird.
[19:23] <snap-l> iirc.
[19:24] <shakes808> I don't have a PP account.
[19:24] <shakes808> Don't you have to pay for one?
[19:24] <snap-l> no, but you have to agree to Paypal's terms of service.
[19:24] <snap-l> which can be fun for some folks.
[19:25] <shakes808> I don't read the TOS, does anyone? .... you all probably do.
[19:25] <shakes808> :D
[19:26] <shakes808> I probably owe some company my kidneys and pancreas for signing up for things lol
[19:29] <shakes808> Where is the PP to pay?
[19:51] <ColonelPanic001> snap-l: if you haven't already seen them: http://ruinofremembrance.bandcamp.com/
[19:55] <snap-l> shakes808: I don't remember what it is offhand.
[19:55] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Checking it out now.
[19:56] <ColonelPanic001> I only listend to one track, but I liked it
[19:56] <shakes808> snap-l: Eh, one way or another, MUG will be robbing me of my dues ;)
[19:57] <snap-l> shakes808: Robbing is such an ugly word
[19:57] <snap-l> think of it as a pledge
[19:57] <shakes808> lol
[22:52] <greg-g> snap-l: being the CC metal community leader, you should reach out to Chimaira re Creative Commons licensing :) http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120503/13344618767/metal-band-chimairas-frontman-talks-diy-versus-label-hell.shtml
[23:03] <snap-l> greg-g: I'm a fan of Chimaira, so that's not as crazy as it seems. :)
[23:07] <greg-g> awesome :)
[23:07] <snap-l> I doubt it'll work, though, since they're ASCAP, but it's worth a shot.
[23:11] <greg-g> ah, yeah
[23:11] <greg-g> :(
[23:28] <snap-l> Not seeing an e-mail address either.
[23:28] <snap-l> Posted it ontwitter,
[23:29] <snap-l> so we'll see if that generates something