[00:00] <tjaalton> systemd as the default init that is
[00:00] <tjaalton> it'll get packaged due to udev
[00:00] <erappleman> imho, systemd's biggest problem is the lack of a fsck that can be canceled
[00:01] <tjaalton> systemd? you mean btrfs?
[00:01] <erappleman> no, systemd
[00:02] <tjaalton> does it even have a working fsck yet..
[00:02] <tjaalton> ok got it
[00:02] <RAOF> btrfs?  Yeah.  As long as you're happy with btrfs-progs git.
[00:02] <erappleman> btrfs has a branch that promises to ruin your fs
[00:02] <erappleman> but has fsck
[00:03] <tjaalton> i'd love to see btrfs getting usable, reminds me of advfs on tru64
[00:03] <tjaalton> some of the features at least, it's even more flexible
[00:04] <bjsnider> systemd is lennart poettering's replacement for sysv
[00:04] <bjsnider> it's another of those gnome vs. ubuntu type issues
[00:41] <tjaalton> erappleman: fyi https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-btrfs-requirements
[00:48] <RAOF> Man, can we get systemtap in main so that we can enable DTrace support?
[00:50] <bryce2> any performance impacts?
[00:50] <RAOF> I don't think so.
[00:50] <RAOF> fwiw, it's enabled in Fedora
[00:51] <tjaalton> what, systemtap supports the dtrace api?
[00:51] <erappleman> when btrfs can handle installing grub to /, i'll be impressed
[00:51] <RAOF> "Earlier this year, Adam Jackson enabled the dtrace hooks in the Fedora Xorg server package, using the SystemTap static probe support for DTrace probe compatibility. He then noticed a performance drop, which isn't supposed to happen, as DTrace probes are simply noops when not being actively traced, and submitted a fix for it upstream."
[00:51] <tjaalton> cool
[00:53]  * RAOF is rebuilding the server right now to see if it's easy to trace what compiz is doing when it hammers the server during startup.
[01:12] <tjaalton> btw, systemtap in main shouldn't be an issue, especially as it's used more and more in kernel debugging etc
[03:12] <erappleman> is anyone having problems with unity on i965 with edgers?
[03:12] <erappleman> i can't get it to load
[03:13] <erappleman> lemme get a log
[16:54] <tjaalton> duh, now the plans session conflicts with multiseat
[17:25] <tjaalton> damn, missed the first 20min of the sru session..
[18:33] <tjaalton> cnd: missing you on the xorg plans session :)
[18:33] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: got any info on mesa release that we want? guessing 8.1