[00:09] <ryanakca> Sco/wn 25
[00:09] <ryanakca> Oops
[00:10] <bulldog98> rbelem: is the active meeting on now?
[00:10] <ryanakca> Riddell: Alright, I'll look at that. Wouldn't strict dependency on python-sip version require a new python-poppler-qt4 version every time python-si is uploaded?
[00:14] <Riddell> ryanakca: half strict
[00:51] <Riddell> afiestas http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Development
[00:51] <Riddell> afiestas: /join #ubuntu-uds-room-204
[00:52] <afiestas>  /join #ubuntu-uds-room-204
[00:52] <afiestas> ups xd
[01:03]  * bulldog98 is off for sleep
[01:22] <Riddell> thanks Blizzz 
[01:22] <Riddell> tsk
[01:22] <Riddell> thanks bulldog98 
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:12] <shadeslayer> hi BluesKaj
[13:13] <BluesKaj> hey shadeslayer 
[13:14] <BluesKaj> 12.10 here and I assume 4.8.3 is default 
[13:15] <shadeslayer> what
[13:15] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, got my test HDD setup and running , without a hitch , which surprised me a little :)
[13:15] <shadeslayer> you upgraded to 12.10 already?
[13:15] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:15] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:16] <BluesKaj> yup, still got 12.04 on the main drive
[13:17] <shadeslayer> I'm going to stick with 12.04 for a bit
[13:17] <BluesKaj> this is an older IDE drive from 2005 , perfect for experimentation 
[13:22] <BluesKaj> WD1600.is solid as a rock .however, the main HDD is a Seagate which I'm not so confident about
[14:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: btw, did you collect data on where we spend time when testing?
[14:49] <shadeslayer> can I get back to you on that after the 1st of June? :D
[14:51] <shadeslayer> quassel seriously needsa way to highlight a certain subset of channels so that I can switch to them quickly
[14:51] <shadeslayer>   /join is too slow
[14:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: zomg
[14:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: huh?
[14:54]  * shadeslayer is unsure why apachelogger is so fascinated
[14:55] <apachelogger> 1st of june
[14:55] <apachelogger> tooling should have been done like months ago
[14:56] <shadeslayer> yes, and we should have had a tooling meeting months ago
[14:57] <apachelogger> yes
[14:57] <apachelogger> but without data that doesn't make sense anyway :P
[15:11] <apachelogger> is image size being discussed at uds?
[15:16] <apachelogger> sven423: http://i.imgur.com/cfRfi.png
[15:16] <sven423> hmmm
[15:16] <sven423> layout bug... *checking*
[15:17] <apachelogger> sven423: also is the dialog to pop up on first start?
[15:17] <sven423> apachelogger: yes, as the services not are being initialized on startup these days
[15:18] <sven423> any not once the user opens them
[15:18] <apachelogger> so I'd think it should wait there until I try to use it
[15:18] <apachelogger> as it is right now the dialog seems utterly out of context and confusing
[15:19] <sven423> I completely agree
[15:20] <sven423> and *damn* I don't have that layout problem here
[15:21] <sven423> ah, on resizing
[15:24] <apachelogger> it is default for me
[15:24] <apachelogger> and not only me :)
[15:25] <apachelogger> http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2012_1/kubuntu-pangolin-amazon-locale.jpg
[15:25] <apachelogger> sven423: seems the window size is not locked to the minimum widget size (or there is none to begin with ^^)
[15:41] <sven423> apachelogger: i hate designing dialogs... calling adjustSize() on it should make it readable for you by default too, right?
[15:42] <apachelogger> only if the hints are proper
[15:42] <apachelogger> plus it still doesn't prevent the user from resizing it below the minimum size
[15:43] <apachelogger> hence I would tryto get minimum right, that way you get the right size at any rate
[15:44] <sven423> apachelogger: how do I get the minimum the right(TM) way?
[15:44] <apachelogger> dunno, I am library author :P
[15:44] <apachelogger> also gotta leave right now
[15:44] <apachelogger> I'll look into it later
[15:45] <sven423> k, gonna play with it a bit
[15:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ping
[16:30] <brestows> Hi ! 
[16:31] <brestows> gtk application crash in Kubuntu 12.04 how to fix?
[16:31] <Riddell> hi shadeslayer 
[16:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: see pm :)
[16:48] <brestows> kubuntu 12.04 oxygen-gtk theme gtk application crash :( this bug KDE ?
[17:23] <nixternal> hola
[17:29] <nixternal> what are the kubuntu folks talking about today at uds?
[17:31] <maco> ponies, if harald has anything to say about it
[17:35] <nixternal> he is more of a unicorn person than a pony person
[17:35] <micahg> is he at UDS?
[17:35] <nixternal> doubt it
[17:41] <Riddell> packaging now /join #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-g
[17:41] <Riddell> images next
[17:44] <BluesKaj> Riddell, speeches ?
[18:13] <yofel> bah, I'm totally out of sync with the UDS schedule this time -.-
[18:14] <yofel> Riddell, shadeslayer: did I miss anything particulary important in the packaging session?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> I barely caught that one
[18:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: likewise
[18:16] <Riddell> DarkwingUDS: where are you today?
[19:20] <nixternal> seed files, what does (foobar) mean? ie. a package wrapped in parentheses
[19:20] <Ezim> nixternal, is not foobar a music player?
[19:20] <Ezim> can be wrong
[19:21] <nixternal> no no, want to know the purpose of the parentheses in seed files
[19:21] <Ezim> nixternal, okey. no clue :).
[19:22] <Riddell> nixternal: it's Recommended
[19:22] <Riddell> not Depends:
[19:22] <nixternal> ahh, groovy thanks
[19:22] <Riddell> nixternal: so if it can be removed and still consider the result "kubuntu" then it can be a recommends
[19:23] <nixternal> perfect. creating custom seeds for a custom client distro. this way using a simple script & live-build can be done by anyone
[19:24]  * nixternal notes how simple it is to build a custom debian, slack, arch, centos distro, but not an ubuntu distro
[19:25] <nixternal> ^^ Task makes the ubuntu one a pain. with the other ones i listed, i don't need my own local mirror
[23:56] <Riddell> DarkwingUDS: I'm by the intel desk in the foyer