[01:30] <EpikVision> for the bazaar 5-minutes tutorial, is it ok to create a team and project for the sample, despite it being an example?
[01:43] <tumbleweed> bdrung: btw, I did a bunch of random u-d-t bugfixing on the plane on the way here
[01:44] <tumbleweed> don't know if you want to look over any of it or I should just push it to trunk... lp:~stefanor/ubuntu-dev-tools/uds-flight
[02:28]  * ScottK waves to Laney.
[03:00] <bobweaver> Hello there I am trying to make a debconf password box and am running into some troubles. I have made the config and templates file located here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/zpanelcp/zpanelcp/files/head:/debian/          but How do I test them locally ? so I know that they work just run the configs script ? if so what do I put for the path and what not. Thanks again for your time.
[05:16] <jdstrand> Amoz: ack, I've assigned ubuntu-security-sponsors as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures which will allow a member of the security to pick this up. I should note that we will need a debdiff rather than a new upstream version for the security update
[05:16] <jdstrand> Amoz: if you are able and interested, feel free to follow the SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures wiki page to submit a debdiff
[05:17] <jdstrand> Amoz: otherwise, a member of the security team will provide an update at some point
[05:17] <jdstrand> (I can't see when atm as I have not fully triaged it)
[08:16] <bdrung> tumbleweed: the changes look good. go ahead and push it to trunk
[11:48] <Rhonda> geser: Seems the 500 went away?
[11:49]  * Rhonda likes bugs that solve themself.  :)
[12:11] <geser> Rhonda: thanks for fixing it :)
[12:11] <geser> I saw someone "reporting" that problem in #launchpad too yesterday
[12:17] <Rhonda> Yep, Spads did also query me about it.
[12:18] <Rhonda> I guess there might have been some dbd file issue which fixed itself during the next cronjob.
[13:38] <verwilst> openvpn doesnt seem to be starting by default on 12.04
[13:38] <verwilst> anyone encountered the same thing?
[13:38] <verwilst> i always have to start openvpn manually
[13:38] <verwilst> even when i've put the config in auto
[13:55] <jpds> verwilst: Works for me.
[13:57] <verwilst> hm
[13:57] <verwilst> strange
[13:57] <verwilst> always have to do service openstart start manually for it to come up
[13:57] <verwilst> openvpn*
[14:02] <dupondje> verwilst: something in errors? Always the case? Or does it work sometimes? :)
[15:59] <broder> bah. forgot to set an alarm and overslept. will probably be late for part 2 of motu bof
[16:00] <tumbleweed> oops. The curse of not having jetlag :)
[17:29] <highvoltage> tumbleweed, broder, Laney, ajmitch: are you doing the debian thing tonight or the touristy thingy?
[17:29] <highvoltage> (and also, anyone else here going to debian/BAD?)
[17:29] <broder> probably touristy thing
[17:30] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: I wanted to do the BAD thing, but pretty sure I can't make it
[17:31] <highvoltage> k
[17:35] <ajmitch> highvoltage: not sure yet
[17:36] <ajmitch> broder: I tracked down that patch you had for LP, finally
[17:37] <ajmitch> it'll need some changes since that part of the code was changed for -proposed, but should be possible :)
[17:54] <EvilResistance> am i correct that an Ubuntu-specific modification that makes it distinctively different than the Debian package would need versioning of -#ubuntu1 where # is the debian package revision number?
[18:01] <tumbleweed> EvilResistance: where "distinctively different" means any change at all. Yes
[18:01] <EvilResistance> tumbleweed, you mean any change not already implemented in the Debian package? (say a patch is released on the Debian package, and then included in the Ubuntu package)
[18:02] <tumbleweed> EvilResistance: I mean a change compared to the debian package
[18:02] <EvilResistance> indeed
[18:02] <EvilResistance> good, just wanted to make sure that was the case
[18:02] <EvilResistance> thanks
[18:59] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/937522 clipboard patch for quantal added, if somebody could review :)
[19:05] <EvilResistance> for SRUs, does a change in the current release package (and hence the reason for filing the SRU) also have to be reflected in the development version of Ubuntu (Quantal) if the source(s) for precise and quantal are identical?
[19:06] <geser> dupondje: is the g_printf() call in remmina_rdp_receive_channel_data() for debugging? and should it stay even for normal use?
[19:06] <geser> EvilResistance: yes, first fix in quantal (if not already fixed) then SRU
[19:07] <EvilResistance> thought so
[19:07] <dupondje> geser: that g_printf() should be removed indeed :(
[19:08] <dupondje> missed that
[19:08] <EvilResistance> in which case this bug isnt able to be fixed until the current version builds/runs in Quantal: LP Bug 991179  (I'll have to modify my response in that bug)
[19:11] <geser> EvilResistance: do you have a summary what needs to get changed for this but? I try to find a good summary in those 80 comments but didn't find yet
[19:11] <geser> a comment number with a summary would be enough
[19:11] <EvilResistance> geser, a fix was found for Precise, but the package doesnt build in any circumstances in Quantal
[19:11] <EvilResistance> and the solution was sent via bugsquad mailing list
[19:12]  * EvilResistance is on the bug squad
[19:12] <EvilResistance> so my response was that it'd need fixed in Quantal then SRU'd for Precise
[19:12] <dupondje> geser: you can upload, or do I fix a new debdiff ? :)
[19:12] <EvilResistance> the subsequent response was that the package doesn't build in Quantal, so...
[19:13] <EvilResistance> they have to fix that first
[19:13] <geser> EvilResistance: is there a new upstream version that includes that fix and builds in quantal? (that counts as fix for quantal too, once the package is there)
[19:14] <EvilResistance> geser, untested yet, i could try and figure it out, but since its not my bug... :P
[19:14]  * EvilResistance didnt report it, nor does he use boinc, he only got involved because it was sent across the bugsquad mailing list
[19:15] <EvilResistance> and, they asked for a fix to be posted ;P
[19:15] <geser> dupondje: I'm currently not on my Ubuntu, so I can't upload right now. Did you sent it already upstream?
[19:15] <EvilResistance> i have a debdiff for Precise, and that builds, but the same package doesnt work in Quantal (explodes)
[19:15] <EvilResistance> good luck in asking me where that issue is, i dont have the logs locally
[19:15]  * EvilResistance isnt in his primary dev environment for packaging
[19:16] <geser> EvilResistance: "and so it begins" :)
[19:16] <EvilResistance> geser, as soon as a solution comes out for Quantal, i'll be poking the MOTUs
[19:16] <EvilResistance> geser, indeed.
[19:16] <dupondje> geser: its already commited in the Remmina git
[19:16] <geser> EvilResistance: you might need to ask a SRU member what to in this case, but if quantal doesn't get a fix there is a risk that it gets forgotten and quantal ships a broken package again
[19:17] <EvilResistance> i agree
[19:17] <EvilResistance> but considering that quantal's dev cycle is, what, about two weeks old?  i fully expect at this stage there to be broken packages
[19:17] <EvilResistance> geser, i agree it needs to work in quantal first :P
[19:17] <EvilResistance> and i'll poke the SRU team later
[19:17]  * EvilResistance has to finish something else that is more important
[19:18] <geser> EvilResistance: we have packages in precise that got last uploaded in oneiric or even older
[19:19] <EvilResistance> this package in question was synced from Debian for Precise ;P
[19:19]  * EvilResistance checked that
[19:19] <geser> and such things tend to get easily forgotten in a few months (who will check in 5 months if this got fixed?)
[19:19] <EvilResistance> (it was newer in Sid than Oneiric, during the Precise dev cycle)
[19:20] <EvilResistance> geser, probably the guy who pinged the bugsquad, or the person who's assigned to that bug, its unlikely i'll care in about a week
[19:20]  * EvilResistance has enough to deal with :P
[19:20] <EvilResistance> s/unlikely/likely/
[19:20] <geser> bug reporters don't care anymore either once it got fixed for them (usually the current release)
[19:21] <geser> but talk to SRU members what to do in this case here
[19:21] <EvilResistance> any of them here, or can you point me to the mailing list
[19:22] <geser> EvilResistance: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+members#active but I guess all of them are currently at UDS
[19:23] <EvilResistance> yeah, well its not a high priority on my list
[19:23]  * EvilResistance is busy with more important things
[19:23] <geser> I don't know of any mailing list, but you could try to contact them through the LP mail feature
[19:25] <geser> dupondje: I guess your debdiff will get sponsored once all patch pilots are back from UDS
[19:26] <dupondje> ok :)
[23:31] <bobweaver> what is this ?
[23:31] <bobweaver> wrong room sorry
[23:33] <broder> ugh. just tried to write an "unless" block in python. halp the ruby is getting to me :-P
[23:34] <micahg> broder: that seems very perlish
[23:34] <broder> micahg: yeah, ruby picked up a lot of perl
[23:37] <broder> it also got the "foo if/unless bar" postfix operator
[23:37] <broder> and it has a handful of $* special variables
[23:38] <micahg> right, like I said, perlish :)
[23:39] <lifeless> python has that too
[23:39] <lifeless> a if test else b
[23:44] <MTecknology> !logs