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| micahg | Perhaps having the flavors having their own langpacks might be beneficial, we certainly don't want to bloat the main langpacks with stuff for all th eflavors | 16:29 |
| micahg | that should be the best of both worlds (flavors get to translate in LP, no extra bloat for anyone), I just have no idea how much work it is to generate those (dpm and pitti would be the people to discuss with) | 16:30 |
| tgm4883 | we need more devs! | 16:38 |
| highvoltage | DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! | 16:38 |
| tgm4883 | FWIW, it's difficult for me to make the Mythbuntu release notes on our own page | 16:38 |
| tgm4883 | that might be something Mario took care of for us, is there a link that I can see for that? | 16:41 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 16:42 |
| highvoltage | here's the edubuntu one, for an example... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Edubuntu | 16:42 |
| * highvoltage checks if there's a template somewhere | 16:42 | |
| tgm4883 | highvoltage, thanks | 16:42 |
| highvoltage | well I guess https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes contains all you need | 16:42 |
| tgm4883 | and this is what was autogenerated from blueprints? | 16:42 |
| tgm4883 | sweet | 16:47 |
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| mpt | Each of these items isn't just a matter of designing and implementing a setting, it also requires designing and implementing what happens when a user tries the thing that has been locked down | 17:09 |
| mpt | (e.g. what happens when they try to drag an application into the launcher) | 17:09 |
| mpt | Another example, if a System Settings panel is hidden, any button somewhere else that would open that panel should also be greyed out | 17:12 |
| mpt | dbarth, I'm not sure what you meant by a template, but it would make sense to have template for a mini-specification for each setting: * Where and how an admin changes the setting * How existing user accounts behave when the setting is changed * What happens when the user tries the disallowed thing | 17:15 |
| mpt | desrt, for example, if someone has added applications X, Y, and Z to the launcher, and then the admin allows X and Z but not Y, X and Z should still appear, and there shouldn't be a [?] tile left where Y used to be. Things like that. | 17:18 |
| mpt | This could be a whitelist that included X and Z, not necessarily a blacklist that included Y | 17:22 |
| mpt | --- | 17:27 |
| mpt | The UI for setting the configuration is what really interests me | 17:27 |
| mpt | If you just implement the dconf keys and do nothing else, what percentage of admins would discover them? | 17:29 |
| mpt | If you implement them and document them on ubuntu.com somewhere, that percentage increases, but not by much | 17:29 |
| mpt | If you have an admin control panel of some sort, the settings become much more useful | 17:29 |
| mpt | desrt, that would be a good start -- even better if it was inside a window rather than in a whole separate session | 17:31 |
| mpt | (I think Unity can do that already?) | 17:31 |
| mpt | There would be some settings that couldn't be expressed in that way | 17:32 |
| mpt | searchable list, sure | 17:32 |
| mpt | I see "Ability to hide some System Settings items" in this table, and I immediately think, oh, that should be a copy of the System Settings home screen with a checkbox next to each icon | 17:33 |
| mpt | In some cases you want something more general, e.g. "Users in this group can: [/] Change the sound volume" | 17:40 |
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| mpt | and if that's unchecked it affects not just the sound menu, but the volume keys etc as well | 17:40 |
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| mpt | I really think each of these settings should be considered as its own design+implementation task, because it touches varying bits of UI | 17:42 |
| mpt | "[shell-team] implement lock-down support" would turn into a fuzzy endless task | 17:42 |
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| mpt | ok | 17:44 |
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| mpt | sure, thanks dbarth | 17:45 |
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| mpt | Another thing to consider is whether the admin UI for all these settings should ship by default, or whether it should be something you install separately | 17:46 |
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| mpt | given that there are a few user permission settings in the User Accounts panel of System Settings already | 17:46 |
| dbarth | mpt: yeah, it could live there you're proposing? | 17:47 |
| mpt | maybe | 17:47 |
| dbarth | i would see it stay outside of the CD for now, as it's quite specific though | 17:48 |
| dbarth | if only to save space | 17:48 |
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| cr3 | hello everyone! | 19:03 |
| brendand | 5 minutes | 19:19 |
| brendand | it runs for 300 seconds | 19:19 |
| cr3 | brendand: I wonder what would be the difference between running for 5 minutes or 5 times for 1 minute | 19:20 |
| brendand | cr3 - that's effectively what it does | 19:20 |
| brendand | 5 * 60 seconds | 19:21 |
| cr3 | perhaps if we calculate the median, removing the highest and smallest values, rather than just an average would make a difference | 19:21 |
| brendand | we could process the numbers in a more statistically meaningful way | 19:21 |
| brendand | it would be nice if iperf could do that for us (maybe it does) | 19:21 |
| brendand | cr3 - remember the maverick headless problem? | 19:27 |
| cr3 | brendand: nope, my memory doesn't go further back than precise | 19:30 |
| cr3 | ironically, my memory is inprecise | 19:30 |
| brendand | in the sru? | 19:43 |
| brendand | it's never failed | 19:43 |
| * brendand wants to check it's there ) | 19:44 | |
| brendand | no, it's not | 19:44 |
| brendand | we just need to add it then. it's an easy win | 19:44 |
| brendand | i'm not sure it's in the sru suite yet | 19:45 |
| brendand | we were waiting for hardware to arrive in taipei | 19:45 |
| brendand | ctf has cards now? | 19:45 |
| brendand | another easy win (hopefully!) | 19:46 |
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| SpamapS | o/ | 22:34 |
| SpamapS | I missed the first 30 min... | 22:34 |
| SpamapS | no notes in etherpad | 22:35 |
| SpamapS | Serge, anything I should know? | 22:35 |
| SpamapS | You know I'm all about whats cool | 22:36 |
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| NMinker | hello | 23:10 |
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| mika__ | Greeter doc http://goo.gl/ImT7O | 23:56 |
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