[00:48] o/ === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson === PreciseOne is now known as IdleOne === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b to: Track: Other | Improving infrastructure for Ubuntu Flavors | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20809/other-q-ubuntu-flavors/ | Audio: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grand-ballroom-b.ogg.m3u [16:07] * micahg waves === fenris is now known as Guest8617 === Guest8617 is now known as ejat [16:24] * ScottL waves at micahg [16:27] * micahg is available on IRC for Xubuntu related questions [16:29] Perhaps having the flavors having their own langpacks might be beneficial, we certainly don't want to bloat the main langpacks with stuff for all th eflavors [16:30] that should be the best of both worlds (flavors get to translate in LP, no extra bloat for anyone), I just have no idea how much work it is to generate those (dpm and pitti would be the people to discuss with) [16:38] we need more devs! [16:38] DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! [16:38] FWIW, it's difficult for me to make the Mythbuntu release notes on our own page [16:41] that might be something Mario took care of for us, is there a link that I can see for that? [16:42] ok [16:42] here's the edubuntu one, for an example... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Edubuntu [16:42] * highvoltage checks if there's a template somewhere [16:42] highvoltage, thanks [16:42] well I guess https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes contains all you need [16:42] and this is what was autogenerated from blueprints? [16:47] sweet [16:49] uds-gb-b: 5 minutes left in this session! [16:51] uds-gb-b: 4 minutes left in this session! [16:51] uds-gb-b: 3 minutes left in this session! [16:52] uds-gb-b: 2 minutes left in this session! [16:53] uds-gb-b: 1 minute left in this session! [16:54] uds-gb-b: This session has ended. === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b to: Track: Desktop | Desktop configuration lockdown | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20747/desktop-q-configuration-lockdown/ | Audio: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grand-ballroom-b.ogg.m3u [17:09] Each of these items isn't just a matter of designing and implementing a setting, it also requires designing and implementing what happens when a user tries the thing that has been locked down [17:09] (e.g. what happens when they try to drag an application into the launcher) [17:12] Another example, if a System Settings panel is hidden, any button somewhere else that would open that panel should also be greyed out [17:15] dbarth, I'm not sure what you meant by a template, but it would make sense to have template for a mini-specification for each setting: * Where and how an admin changes the setting * How existing user accounts behave when the setting is changed * What happens when the user tries the disallowed thing [17:18] desrt, for example, if someone has added applications X, Y, and Z to the launcher, and then the admin allows X and Z but not Y, X and Z should still appear, and there shouldn't be a [?] tile left where Y used to be. Things like that. [17:22] This could be a whitelist that included X and Z, not necessarily a blacklist that included Y [17:27] --- [17:27] The UI for setting the configuration is what really interests me [17:29] If you just implement the dconf keys and do nothing else, what percentage of admins would discover them? [17:29] If you implement them and document them on ubuntu.com somewhere, that percentage increases, but not by much [17:29] If you have an admin control panel of some sort, the settings become much more useful [17:31] desrt, that would be a good start -- even better if it was inside a window rather than in a whole separate session [17:31] (I think Unity can do that already?) [17:32] There would be some settings that couldn't be expressed in that way [17:32] searchable list, sure [17:33] I see "Ability to hide some System Settings items" in this table, and I immediately think, oh, that should be a copy of the System Settings home screen with a checkbox next to each icon [17:40] In some cases you want something more general, e.g. "Users in this group can: [/] Change the sound volume" [17:40] uds-gb-b: 5 minutes left in this session! [17:40] and if that's unchecked it affects not just the sound menu, but the volume keys etc as well [17:41] uds-gb-b: 4 minutes left in this session! [17:42] uds-gb-b: 3 minutes left in this session! [17:42] I really think each of these settings should be considered as its own design+implementation task, because it touches varying bits of UI [17:42] "[shell-team] implement lock-down support" would turn into a fuzzy endless task [17:43] uds-gb-b: 2 minutes left in this session! [17:44] ok [17:44] uds-gb-b: 1 minute left in this session! [17:45] sure, thanks dbarth [17:45] uds-gb-b: This session has ended. [17:46] Another thing to consider is whether the admin UI for all these settings should ship by default, or whether it should be something you install separately === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/grand-ballroom-b/ - http://ubottu.com/uds-logs/%23ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b.log [17:46] given that there are a few user permission settings in the User Accounts panel of System Settings already [17:47] mpt: yeah, it could live there you're proposing? [17:47] maybe [17:48] i would see it stay outside of the CD for now, as it's quite specific though [17:48] if only to save space === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b to: Track: Cloud & Server | Graphical interface for Domain Directory management | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20368/servercloud-q-samba4-interface/ | Audio: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grand-ballroom-b.ogg.m3u [18:49] uds-gb-b: 5 minutes left in this session! [18:51] uds-gb-b: 4 minutes left in this session! [18:51] uds-gb-b: 3 minutes left in this session! [18:52] uds-gb-b: 2 minutes left in this session! [18:54] uds-gb-b: 1 minute left in this session! [18:55] uds-gb-b: This session has ended. === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b to: Track: Hardware | Improving automated certification testing of Kernel SRUs | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20379/cert-q-sru-coverage/ | Audio: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grand-ballroom-b.ogg.m3u [19:03] hello everyone! [19:19] 5 minutes [19:19] it runs for 300 seconds [19:20] brendand: I wonder what would be the difference between running for 5 minutes or 5 times for 1 minute [19:20] cr3 - that's effectively what it does [19:21] 5 * 60 seconds [19:21] perhaps if we calculate the median, removing the highest and smallest values, rather than just an average would make a difference [19:21] we could process the numbers in a more statistically meaningful way [19:21] it would be nice if iperf could do that for us (maybe it does) [19:27] cr3 - remember the maverick headless problem? [19:30] brendand: nope, my memory doesn't go further back than precise [19:30] ironically, my memory is inprecise [19:43] in the sru? [19:43] it's never failed [19:44] * brendand wants to check it's there ) [19:44] no, it's not [19:44] we just need to add it then. it's an easy win [19:45] i'm not sure it's in the sru suite yet [19:45] we were waiting for hardware to arrive in taipei [19:45] ctf has cards now? [19:46] another easy win (hopefully!) [19:55] uds-gb-b: 5 minutes left in this session! [19:56] uds-gb-b: 4 minutes left in this session! [19:57] uds-gb-b: 3 minutes left in this session! [19:58] uds-gb-b: 2 minutes left in this session! [19:59] uds-gb-b: 1 minute left in this session! 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[22:58] uds-gb-b: 2 minutes left in this session! [22:59] uds-gb-b: 1 minute left in this session! [23:00] uds-gb-b: This session has ended. === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/grand-ballroom-b/ - http://ubottu.com/uds-logs/%23ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b.log === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b to: Track: | Unity Greeter updates for 12.10 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20713/unity-greeter-q/ | Audio: http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grand-ballroom-b.ogg.m3u [23:10] hello [23:55] uds-gb-b: 5 minutes left in this session! [23:56] uds-gb-b: 4 minutes left in this session! [23:56] Greeter doc http://goo.gl/ImT7O [23:57] Greeter visuals http://goo.gl/5G2VZ [23:57] uds-gb-b: 3 minutes left in this session! [23:58] uds-gb-b: 2 minutes left in this session! [23:59] uds-gb-b: 1 minute left in this session!