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[17:00] <SpamapS> o/
[17:00] <SpamapS> Ubuflu has him now
[17:01] <SpamapS> I'm always there
[17:01] <SpamapS> watching
[17:01] <SpamapS> waiting
[17:02] <SpamapS> *
[17:03] <SpamapS> Cool, good idea utlemming. Session done.
[17:03] <SpamapS> main cannot depend on multiverse
[17:04] <SpamapS> I already charmed ELB btw.. would have been slightly easier w/ apt-get instead of download, unzip, bleh
[17:04] <smoser> good morning
[17:06] <SpamapS> heh, openstack doesn't have any of this. :)
[17:07] <SpamapS> I agree w/ smoser. We do what we can, when we can, and are open to prioritization arguments.
[17:10] <SpamapS> we do not need to know who is going to do it, to agree that it is a good idea. We can make a plea for help from the community and/or suggest that Canonical devote resources to it *after* determining how big the effort is.
[17:11]  * charlieS concurs that the top of the list in etherpad (ami tools, ELB, RDS, IAM) are super important
[17:16] <SpamapS> Have we checked Debian WNPP to see if there are requests or ITP's for any of these?
[17:21]  * SpamapS is looking for sponsorees!
[17:22] <SpamapS> python-boto is up to date in debian isn't it?
[17:23] <SpamapS> python-boto in debian is 2.3.0
[17:24] <charlieS> 1.9 in lucid :)
[17:25] <smoser> so for python-boto, i will re-sync that.
[17:25] <SpamapS> python-boto | 2.2.2-0ubuntu2 |       precise | source, all
[17:25] <smoser> yeah.
[17:29] <SpamapS> target precise-backports too
[17:32] <SpamapS> recipes make it really easy to have all releases covered
[17:35] <SpamapS> Daviey can ping me to sponsor in uploads. :)
[17:36] <SpamapS> #ubuntu-meeting , every Tuesday 0900 PDT
[17:37] <SpamapS> much awesomeness, thanks everybody
[17:39] <SpamapS> instead of sed, just drop a file in sourcs.list.d
[17:39] <SpamapS>  _________________________
[17:39] <SpamapS> < sources.list.d, smoser! >
[17:39] <SpamapS>  -------------------------
[17:39] <SpamapS>         \   ^__^
[17:39] <SpamapS>          \  (oo)\_______
[17:39] <SpamapS>             (__)\       )\/\
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[17:39] <SpamapS> its best if you know your mirror
[17:40] <SpamapS> but.. meh
[17:40] <SpamapS> please god don't put it in python-software-properties
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[17:41] <SpamapS> That is the best hidden command ever
[17:41] <SpamapS> "how do I get this useful command?" "Oh, by installing an obscure python module"
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[17:41] <SpamapS> later!
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[18:13] <d0od> Hear Ya
[19:05] <dannf> mrjazzcat is heading down
[19:23] <dannf> and susceptible to intermittent failures
[19:23] <dannf> you don't want a bmc busy handling network packets being too busy to respond to the booting system
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[22:00] <dholbach> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20560/community-q-myapps-review/
[22:05] <dholbach> ajmitch is talking about https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/arb/
[22:20] <dmj726> It would be nice if "commercial" apps could get the canonical packaged source package back to save canonical effort for updates
[22:21] <dmj726> uds-gb-c: ^^
[22:23] <dmj726> bilal: are you in the room?
[22:23] <bilal> dmj726: nope, I'm in grand ballroom H
[22:23] <dmj726> okay, thanks
[22:27] <dmj726> It would be nice to streamline the packaging process
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[23:11] <shirgall> Was it a good picture?
[23:11] <Faqtotum> no
[23:19] <shirgall> ODMs wanting substitution of new hardware for old hardware is common
[23:22] <shirgall> total loss of cmos/bios settings
[23:29] <shirgall> BOM -> Bill of Materials for those who think we are planning something else
[23:31] <Faqtotum> tar -> tarball, bom -> bomshell
[23:43] <shirgall> I was having trouble determining if that was wellness versus weirdness
[23:45] <shirgall> well, if the date is less than the release date of the current distro, set it :)
[23:45] <Faqtotum> if today is before today, then it's not today
[23:46] <shirgall> Faqtotum: well, on first boot there's not necessarily a network to figure out what the real "today" is
[23:46] <shirgall> Faqtotum: and trusting the rtc is... risky
[23:46] <Faqtotum> not what i meant
[23:47] <Faqtotum> you mentioned the release date, but if you install a prerelease, the release date is "today"
[23:47] <shirgall> Faqtotum: well, it's no less than six motnhs before today :)
[23:48] <shirgall> Faqtotum: on OEM installs, though, we tend not to use pre-release stuff on items shipping from factories
[23:48] <Faqtotum> by the time it ships, it will be a previous version
[23:49] <shirgall> Faqtotum: point is to avoid "1970"
[23:50] <Faqtotum> x86 bioses generally never supported 1970
[23:50] <shirgall> Faqtotum: x86 is not the only target
[23:51] <Faqtotum> no, but it's the oldest one
[23:51] <shirgall> Faqtotum: but on systems with no rtc, or a dead rtc battery, it comes up as "0" and that is Jan 1, 1970
[23:52] <Faqtotum> SoC's sometimes detect that and set it to more recent nonsense
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