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[16:49]  * webm0nk3y waves
[16:54] <thisfred> I hear you!
[16:56] <webm0nk3y> BOO!
[16:56] <thisfred> ok
[16:57] <webm0nk3y> this is like a bad movie about a radio that listens to the past
[16:59] <thisfred> audio dropped
[16:59] <webm0nk3y> thisfred: this is much better than being at UDS since pants are optional this way
[17:00] <thisfred> They aren't at UDS? That explains a lot, in retrospect
[17:00] <webm0nk3y> thisfred: refresh it
[17:00] <thisfred> hi
[17:01] <Chipaca> HELLO!
[17:02] <Chipaca> we do not have to answer that
[17:02] <Chipaca> T minus three minutes
[17:02] <webm0nk3y> stuart used the 'S' word
[17:03] <thisfred> that's fine
[17:03] <thisfred> we just won't sing together
[17:03] <Chipaca> somebody is writing to the eww one dee bee!
[17:03] <thisfred> 40
[17:04] <j-johan-edwards> Hey, while everyone's shuffling around... are there any plans to make dconf syncable over Ubuntu One?
[17:04] <Chipaca> j-johan-edwards: there are plans
[17:04] <Chipaca> j-johan-edwards: they are not our plans
[17:04] <__lucio__> piing! :)
[17:04] <achuni> __lucio__: long
[17:04] <Chipaca> __lucio__: hi :)
[17:04] <achuni> pong
[17:04] <thisfred> gnap
[17:04] <j-johan-edwards> Cool.
[17:05] <Chipaca> "syncing settings" session, yesterday pm
[17:05] <Chipaca> there's a etherpad and whathaveyou
[17:05] <webm0nk3y> Chipaca: I would like to know when u1db will have Linq support so i can integrate it with my windows apps
[17:05] <Chipaca> webm0nk3y: it has already
[17:05] <Chipaca> webm0nk3y: in python, from u1db.HELLNO import JUSTNO
[17:06] <jono> aquarius: you suck
[17:06] <jono> aquarius: you suck
[17:06] <Chipaca> aquarius: go go go
[17:07] <Chipaca> the "jangle bells" release
[17:07]  * webm0nk3y loves quizes
[17:08] <__lucio__> we did write some software, though
[17:08] <Chipaca> __lucio__: he's getting there (by the time you said that, he already had :) )
[17:09]  * __lucio__ shutups
[17:09] <thisfred> except couchdb
[17:09] <Chipaca> couchdb is explicitly nonconformant
[17:10] <webm0nk3y> :)
[17:18] <__lucio__> its not 100% defines yet
[17:19] <__lucio__> we will kill tombstones after a while
[17:19] <__lucio__> that would break incremental sync for dbs that have diverged a long time ago
[17:22] <__lucio__> Chipaca, can we get a link to the notes please? so we can follow from here?
[17:22] <thisfred> document.content is always a json string, I just looked that up
[17:22] <Chipaca> thisfred: thanks
[17:23] <Chipaca> __lucio__: you mean the slides?
[17:23] <__lucio__> Chipaca, yes
[17:23] <Chipaca> __lucio__: NO.
[17:23] <Chipaca> :)
[17:23] <thisfred> we may add implementation specific helpers that are not part of the official API to make devs lives easier, but we have not, so far
[17:24] <Chipaca> the slides are at http://ubuntuone.com/5KKNLvpKe76zgRBmdyFen5
[17:24] <Chipaca> we are now on slide 75
[17:24] <Chipaca> ok, so 6
[17:26] <__lucio__> thanks
[17:26] <thisfred> oauth2 ftw
[17:28] <thisfred> hi
[17:28] <Chipaca> thisfred: he's belittling your work, i think
[17:28] <thisfred> I saw his todo app code ;)
[17:29] <thisfred> just works
[17:29] <thisfred> it's qt
[17:29] <thisfred> PYTHONPATH=. python u1todo/ui.py
[17:29] <thisfred> It's beautiful!
[17:30] <webm0nk3y> holy cow stop the dinging!
[17:31] <webm0nk3y> and an angel gets its wings!
[17:32] <__lucio__> txstatsd ftw
[17:32] <achuni> what happens if I get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/978324/
[17:33] <achuni> I guess that's when I pressed "sync", but I'd need to check
[17:33] <__lucio__> achuni, do you have u1 set upin that machine?
[17:33] <thisfred> achuni: do you have an ubuntu one account configured?
[17:33] <achuni> ding!
[17:33] <achuni> possibly not
[17:33] <thisfred> achuni: because it gets the oauth tokens from there
[17:33] <achuni> right
[17:33] <thisfred> this is just for the demo purposes
[17:34]  * achuni signs in
[17:34]  * achuni tries again
[17:34] <thisfred> You can use hashtags in the todo items as well
[17:34] <achuni> wiii
[17:35] <webm0nk3y> thisfred: where's the script everyone is using
[17:35] <achuni> thisfred: __lucio__ txs that was it
[17:35] <thisfred> webm0nk3y: what script?
[17:35] <webm0nk3y> oh
[17:35] <thisfred> webm0nk3y: bzr branch lp:u1db
[17:35] <webm0nk3y> oops that's what i mean
[17:35] <thisfred> webm0nk3y:  then PYTHONPATH=. python u1todo/ui.py
[17:36] <__lucio__> sync is very cheap if nothing changes, we are discussing change notifications, but thats hard to do cross platform
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[17:40] <thisfred> aquarius can you turn the pinging off?
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[17:41] <webm0nk3y> if the sound goes off, the who cares about u1db?
[17:41] <thisfred> lucio: achuni filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/u1db/+bug/997235 will fix soonish
[17:41] <udsbotu> Launchpad bug 997235 in U1DB "u1todo: handle the case where the user does not have u1 oauth tokens in the keyring" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Eric Casteleijn (thisfred)
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[17:42] <thisfred> I filed that I mean
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[17:44] <thisfred> yes we do
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[17:45] <webm0nk3y> udsbotu: sure
[17:46] <thisfred> indexes are the non trivial part
[17:48] <thisfred> to the bar!
[17:48] <__lucio__> thank you
[17:49] <webm0nk3y> ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
[17:50] <webm0nk3y> weeek
[17:50] <thisfred> ttyl
[17:50] <webm0nk3y> the ringing idea was awesome
[17:50] <thisfred> a delight
[17:50] <webm0nk3y> it's like the idea of making a game out of recycling
[17:51] <diwic> ++
[17:57] <diwic> hi tiwai!
[17:57] <tiwai> Hi
[17:57] <diwic> glad you could make it :-)
[17:58] <diwic> tiwai, do you have audio up and running as well (we're currently quite silent in the room)?
[17:58] <tiwai> No.
[17:58] <tiwai> I can't hear anything now.
[17:59] <tiwai> BTW, any slides available public already?
[17:59] <diwic> tiwai, no, no slides - this is just discussion, you're meant to listen using the audio stream
[18:00] <tiwai> diwic: OK.
[18:02] <diwic> tiwai, I'll start by introducing hda-emu to the audience here, you can try to set up audio in the mean time
[18:11] <diwic> tiwai, let me know if you get audio up and running
[18:11] <tiwai> diwic: I can hear you talking.
[18:11] <tiwai> sorry for informing late.
[18:11] <diwic> tiwai, excellent :-) Do you have any comments or anything to add?
[18:12] <tiwai> it'd be great if we can build up a good database of dump files.
[18:13] <tiwai> that'll be valuable for all people.
[18:13] <tiwai> actually, alsa-info.sh output also gathers a kind of BIOS information.
[18:14] <tiwai> It shows DMI strings, the initial pin setups from sysfs.
[18:14] <tiwai> the proc file isn't complete, so alsa-info.sh output is still preferred.
[18:15] <tiwai> but i don't mind the form of db.
[18:15] <tiwai> I just gathered in git tree in a plain directory, but it doesn't scale, certainly.
[18:18] <tiwai> no preference from my side.
[18:18] <tiwai> i just want to keep the text as text.
[18:19] <tiwai> or braindead?
[18:21] <roadmr_uds> Language: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf/
[18:32] <tiwai> alsa-info.sh shows only vendor and product DMI strings, indeed.
[18:33] <tiwai> We can extend it easily, though.
[18:33] <tiwai> Yeah, BIOS version sounds good.
[18:34] <tiwai> BTW, what I'd like ask you guys in addition is to collect alsa-info.sh or equivalent in the bug tracker.
[18:34] <tiwai> laupchpad has already many piece of information, but it can't be fed to alsa-info.sh, so far.
[18:35] <tiwai> we'd need either a tool to quilt these pieces or enhance the bug tracking to collect alsa-info.
[18:38] <vanhoof> tiwai: not sure if you have the notes up
[18:38] <vanhoof> tiwai: we were chatting on having bios info included in alsa-info.sh
[18:38] <vanhoof> was also thining system-version, and system-product-name as well
[18:39] <tiwai> vanhoof: yeah, these strings look reasonable.
[18:39] <tiwai> alsa-info.sh is a simple bash script, so feel free to hack it :)
[18:41] <vanhoof> tiwai: diwic is giving us a quick demo of hda-emu :)
[18:42] <vanhoof> tiwai: ack, will send some patches your way for those if you're interested in the same data
[18:42] <tiwai> vanhoof: thanks, it'd be appreciated!
[18:47] <cr3_> vanhoof: when adding dmi info to alsa-info, we should make sure this still works on arm assuming that alsa-info runs on arm in the first place
[18:48] <tiwai> cr3_: good point.
[18:49] <tiwai> we recently fixed alsa-info.sh to be runnable without lspci, for example.
[18:49] <cr3_> tiwai: last I ran lspci on arm, it segfaulted :) I'm not sure it's installed anymore, at least by default
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[18:50] <diwic> cr3_, patches welcome ;-)
[18:51] <cr3_> I believe hexr requires commands like lspci, dmidecode, etc. so, we might want an action item to add arm support to hexr
[18:51] <tiwai> most of dmi strings can be taken from sysfs directly.
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[18:52] <cr3_> tiwai: exactly, I feel uncomfortable pimping my wares, but checkbox hardware gathering uses udev and sysfs that works on arm already
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[18:53] <roadmr_uds> +1 on checkbox wares
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[18:56] <tiwai> yeah, good to hear from you guys, first of all.
[18:56] <tiwai> it'd be really great if we can cooperate for db and automated testing.
[18:57] <tiwai> i'm open for any changes in hda-emu, so just speak up any problems :)
[18:58] <tiwai> thanks!
[18:58] <cr3> cheerio folks!
[18:58] <diwic> thanks everyone, bye!
[19:07] <NMinker> yeah
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[23:29] <SpamapS> o/
[23:43] <SpamapS> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/query
[23:52] <SpamapS> upstart always gets things perfectly right
[23:52] <SpamapS> :)
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[23:58] <SpamapS> I know at least 2 "ruby kids" here in LA who use images as a form of config management. :-/
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