[17:45] <jelkner> maco, are you here?
[17:46] <maco> yes
[17:46] <jelkner> i was wondering if you are active with pyladies?
[17:46] <maco> i went to one of their coffee meetups...
[17:47] <jelkner> but your not a core member or anything, then?
[17:47] <maco> no
[17:47] <jelkner> i'm asking because i'm working on pulling a weekend django workshop together in august
[17:48] <jelkner> an intro to django we are calling "Djentle Django"
[17:48] <maco> jelkner: i only just got back into python when i started contracting with popvox.com
[17:48] <maco> so now i can know how to django
[17:48] <jelkner> cool
[17:48] <maco> seems like the rest of dc pyladies are all djangstas
[17:48] <jelkner> yup
[17:48] <jelkner> that's what i heere
[17:48] <jelkner> hear
[17:49] <jelkner> and djangocon is in arlington this september
[17:49] <jelkner> so it's a good time to be one
[17:49] <jelkner> i've been working with nova python
[17:49] <jelkner> but i hear the pyladies are involved too
[17:49] <jelkner> that's why i was asking
[17:50] <jelkner> my other motivation was to start putting some recorded chatter on our channel logs
[17:50] <jelkner> to use as data for reactivating our loco
[17:50] <maco> haha
[17:51] <jelkner> and of course its always good to talk to you! ;-)
[17:52] <jelkner> but in all seriousness, the loco organization apparently wants to see more on our irc channel
[17:52] <jelkner> kjcole told them we do things mostly through the mailing list
[17:52] <jelkner> but that apparently doesn't give us as much cred
[17:53] <maco> thats silly
[17:53] <maco> every college student has heard of a listserv
[17:53] <maco> few people under age 40 have heard of irc
[17:53] <maco> just the "hax0rz"
[17:53] <jelkner> i don't want to misstate things
[17:53] <maco> (those under 40 who have heard of irc, know it as the place to get warez)
[17:54] <jelkner> but i do know they were going to deactivate us
[17:54] <jelkner> and kjcole has been working to keep that from happening
[17:54] <maco> i wouldnt be surprised, and i wouldnt say we dont deserve it
[17:55] <jelkner> so what would you say we need to do to deserve to keep active status?
[17:55] <maco> tpff is a nice hting, but its one day a year
[17:55] <jelkner> true
[17:55] <maco> i know vancouver loco has a table weekly at a farmers market
[17:56] <jelkner> ok, that's one thing a group could do
[17:56] <jelkner> but we actually do a lot also
[17:56] <jelkner> we just don't do it explicitly as the loco
[17:57] <maco> having intallfests/tweakfests again would be good. gwu's not hosting anymore, and several releases have come and gone with little fanfare around here. i think last week was the first release party in 2 years
[17:57] <maco> yeah, i think they'd want to see more group activities or at least attaching the loco to the individual activities
[17:57] <jelkner> so the latter is what we discussed
[17:57] <maco> like going to a thing *representing the loco* and maybe having cards or little handouts about the loco
[17:57] <jelkner> i run an ubuntu lab in a public school here
[17:58] <jelkner> and i constantly do "install fests"
[17:58] <jelkner> in the sense i'm putting ubuntu on anyone's computer who will let me ;-)
[17:58] <jelkner> i do it a lot
[17:58] <jelkner> but it doesn't register on the loco
[17:58] <jelkner> it should
[17:58] <jelkner> i'm a member
[17:58] <jelkner> and i'm doing ubuntu promotion in my community
[17:58] <jelkner> in an ongoing basis
[17:59] <jelkner> we need an easy way to capture activity like that
[17:59] <jelkner> there is a lot of it among our members
[17:59] <jelkner> we just are not "getting it down"
[18:00] <maco> im not sure, even if you write it down, that it would count for the group, though. you as an individual, sure, but i have the impression locos are supposed to be a litlte more group-focused
[18:00] <maco> now, what with good google and easier OSes today, i think the days of LUGs have pretty much passed us by
[18:00] <maco> so there's that
[18:01] <maco> which is where the tpff type stuff comes in as being where i think locos are focusing
[18:01] <jelkner> tpff?
[18:01] <maco> takoma park folk festival
[18:01] <jelkner> ok, cool
[18:01] <maco> btw, takoma park has a big street festival too apparently
[18:02] <maco> i saw barry's band play there
[18:02] <jelkner> when?
[18:02] <maco> i think it was during that thing we sort of call winter
[18:02] <maco> where it's rainy and cold
[18:02] <jelkner> street in winter
[18:02] <maco> but not april
[18:02] <jelkner> interesting
[18:03] <jelkner> i'm not sure i agree that the day of lugs is passed, though
[18:03] <maco> i went to the takoma park friends meeting that day and i remember it was cold
[18:03] <jelkner> only that there character should change
[18:03] <maco> maybe november?
[18:03] <jelkner> not so hard core geeky
[18:03] <jelkner> more mass and about what to do with computers running ubuntu
[18:03] <jelkner> rather than how to install it
[18:03] <jelkner> since like you said
[18:04] <jelkner> that is becoming pretty easy
[18:05] <jelkner> i would also argue that if i invite some folks from my local community to come to my school so i can show them how to get ubuntu running on their laptop
[18:05] <jelkner> that *is* a loco event
[18:05] <jelkner> why not?
[18:05] <jelkner> except that i didn't put it on our webpage
[18:05] <jelkner> that's the problem
[18:05] <jelkner> we are doing things
[18:05] <maco> i think in that case it should at least be emailed to the list
[18:05] <jelkner> yes
[18:05] <maco> so there's an open invitation for others to join in the helping
[18:06] <jelkner> yes
[18:06] <maco> then it can be called a loco event
[18:06] <jelkner> agreed
[18:06] <jelkner> so i told kjcole i would try to do that more
[18:06] <jelkner> and i offered to try to get meeting going on this channel
[18:06] <jelkner> and then i totally forgot about the first one
[18:06] <jelkner> so i messed that up
[18:07] <jelkner> what are your thoughts on that?
[18:07] <jelkner> should we hold regular irc meetings?
[18:07] <jelkner> maybe monthly?
[18:08] <maco> sounds more likely to work than merge's place
[18:08] <jelkner> it works for me
[18:08] <jelkner> we are spread all over the dc area
[18:08] <jelkner> getting to a physical location is tough
[18:08] <jelkner> but irc is easy
[18:09] <jelkner> since you're the first person i'm asking, do you have a preferred day / time?
[18:09] <jelkner> weekends vs. weekdays
[18:09] <jelkner> evenings vs. mornings
[18:09] <maco> im probably not going to be very involved
[18:09] <maco> ive mostly quit ubuntu
[18:10] <maco> except for using kubuntu maverick
[18:10] <jelkner> and being one of the few folks to log on to our irc channel ;-)
[18:10] <maco> i have ops. someone's gotta kick trolls :P
[18:11] <jelkner> ok, good talking to you... teaching duties call
[18:11] <maco> later