[02:39] <FloatingGoat> holstein: yo
[02:42] <FloatingGoat> holstein: im buying an mxl 990
[02:42] <FloatingGoat> should I?
[02:42] <FloatingGoat> you'll probably say no
[03:43] <holstein> FloatingGoat: depends
[03:44] <holstein> how good of a deal?
[03:44] <holstein> do you need it?
[03:44] <holstein> is this the only mic you will have?
[03:44] <holstein> do you have a preamp?
[03:44] <FloatingGoat> no i will buy one with it
[03:45] <FloatingGoat> well im trying to make an album with a friend of mine
[03:45] <FloatingGoat> and im recording on a crappy mic
[03:45] <FloatingGoat> we are going to work all summer on getting our songs production quality
[03:45] <FloatingGoat> or at least sorta there
[03:46] <holstein> well, thats still a crappy mic
[03:46] <holstein> for the record
[03:47] <holstein> is it better than what you have?
[03:47] <holstein> are you getting a good deal on it?
[03:47] <holstein> can you try it and return it?
[03:48] <holstein> if you think about what it would cost to go to a studio to make this project, and why
[03:49] <holstein> maybe you spend 3 days there... which would be very conservative
[03:49] <holstein> 8 hour days...
[03:49] <holstein> at $100 per hour, thats $3200
[03:50] <holstein> if you could scrape up $400 even.. or $600, you'd be quite surprised
[03:50] <holstein> thats quite a bit cheaper than going in the studio
[03:50] <FloatingGoat> thats a lot of money
[03:51] <holstein> FloatingGoat: which?
[03:51] <FloatingGoat> wait
[03:51] <holstein> its all relative really
[03:51] <FloatingGoat> your saying buy a 400 dollar mic?
[03:51] <holstein> FloatingGoat: im saying, you might need to get your wallet out if you want a nice mic
[03:51] <FloatingGoat> I want a decent mic
[03:51] <FloatingGoat> we are going to run the vocals through a bunch of effects for the sound
[03:52] <holstein> FloatingGoat: $400 is a decent mic
[03:53] <FloatingGoat> idk man
[03:53] <holstein> FloatingGoat: i do
[03:53] <FloatingGoat> im barely willing to spend 70
[03:53] <holstein> FloatingGoat: again, check out what they have in the studios you are trying to emulate
[03:54] <holstein> something like a shure sm27
[03:54] <holstein> thats really a decent mic... versitile and sturdy
[03:54] <holstein> its like $300
[04:09] <FloatingGoat> well maybe in the future
[04:09] <FloatingGoat> idk
[05:47] <acmeinc> anyone running a RAID setup in studio?  my raid is degraded on almost every reboot and I think it may have something to do with the lowlatency kernel.  Ideas?
[06:25] <fidel_> acmeinc: raid yes - but not on studio. is that a sw-raid using mdadm?
[06:26] <fidel_> or hw-raid using some kind of controller or similar
[06:49] <acmeinc> mdadm
[06:50] <acmeinc> originally i thought the problem was due to my frequent freezes, but i replaced the bad mobo and havnet had any problems since.  now, on almost every clean reboot or shutdown, when the os comes back up, one of the drives (different every time) is considered degraded.
[06:52] <acmeinc> no data loss so far, knock on wood to that, but i'm afraid of rebooting before a clean sync, which takes nearly 14 hours.  i found another similar bug report for ubuntu, which suggests the problem may be further than the lowlat kernel, so i flagged the bug w/ 4 others as a problem
[08:44] <destiriser> Hello, i have a question. I saw that ubuntu studio contains application called Pure Data. Can someone say which version is it? And is it Pd-extended or just Pure-Data? Can you check in repositories please?
[12:54] <ubuntu-studio> Hi.is there any soft for ubuntu studio that i can use with my piano.Thanks.>(
[13:04] <fidel_> ubuntu-studio: use what for? working with midi? add some infos - might help getting help ;)
[13:06] <ubuntu-studio> Well my maudio uno is recognized
[13:06] <ubuntu-studio> i need some kind of synthesizer
[13:06] <ubuntu-studio> like ZynAddSubFX
[13:07] <ubuntu-studio> my at2020 via xlr is recognized and sounds awesome
[13:07] <ubuntu-studio> now only piano is left
[13:07] <ubuntu-studio> also senheiser 595 is also recognized
[13:07] <ubuntu-studio> as i understand i need to start first jack
[13:07] <ubuntu-studio> im a bit confused.:P
[13:10] <ubuntu-studio> ok started qsysnt
[13:11] <ubuntu-studio> hmm sample format 16 bit or float
[13:11] <ubuntu-studio> is float 24
[13:12] <ubuntu-studio> ok i have sound in zyn :D
[13:12] <ubuntu-studio> now midi
[13:48] <shred> Hi all
[13:48] <shred> Just wanted to throw a question to see if anybody knows how to get around my problem
[13:49] <shred> I just installed Ubuntu Studio 12.04 on my machine and everything seems to go well, all hardware has been recognized and apparently correctly setup
[13:49] <shred> However, I have two soundcards, and I am not getting sound on the one I want
[13:49] <shred> I have the onboard intel card and an M-Audio 1010LT
[13:50] <shred> The 1010 I cannot get any output on, it all goes to the Intel one
[13:50] <shred> How can I get sound on the M-Audio?
[13:55] <kbn> I have the same (intel+1010LT), but haven't upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 yet
[13:55] <shred> What version are you?  Does your version recognize two cards?
[13:56] <kbn> 10.10, and yes it does "recognize" both cards... however, I use the 1010 for only audio stuff via jack
[13:56] <kbn> so I just set up jack-control to use the "hw:2" interface
[13:57] <kbn> and the rest goes through the intel card
[13:57] <shred> That's what I am doing, in my case hw:1
[13:58] <shred> In your Jack connections, what's your master output in the left (say Ardour) connected to in the right?  System out?
[13:58] <kbn> but it isn't working? or you need everything else through the 1010 as well?
[14:00] <kbn> ardour/out x --> system/playback_1
[14:01] <shred> I just get nothing from my 1010LT speakers
[14:01] <shred> I am using Envy24 to mix volume through, but nothing
[14:02] <kbn> is the sound turned up in the mixer for the appropriate channel? i.e. alsamixer -c1
[14:02] <shred> I get sound through my standard speakers
[14:05] <kbn> the standard speakers connected to the intel card?
[14:06] <kbn> which output channels on the 1010 do you use? Cause you need to make sure the volume is up on those, I think they are all down to 0 by default.
[14:07] <kbn> I.e. to get sound from analog 1+2 to my monitors, I have turned up "DAC" and "DAC 1" in alsamixer
[14:09] <kbn> I guess in the envy24 mixer that is under "Analog Volume" DAC 0 + DAC 1?
[14:10] <shred> let me try, but I have tried all of them already, I think
[14:12] <kbn> I have a faint recollection of struggling too to get sound out of it, but it's too long ago to remember exactly what I did :P
[14:14] <kbn> and after that it has just worked, which is partly why i haven't upgraded...
[14:34] <shred> I made it work, I believe it had to do with the default interface Ardour was on, which was defaulting to the Intel one
[14:34] <shred> Thanks
[15:37] <carioca> hello galera....
[15:38] <carioca> acabei de instalar o ubuntu studio 12 sendo que meu som não funcionou........ alguem tem um roteiro p instalar aquele plugins extras de audio e video....
[15:47] <carioca> list *amigas*
[16:27] <aboba_9> Hi
[16:27] <aboba_9> Is anybody here have problem with jackd2 stop?
[16:28] <Len-nb> yes
[16:28] <Len-nb> aboba_9, this is a known problem
[16:30] <Len-nb> it is a dbus communication problem. jack stops but qjackctl never gets the reply.
[16:32] <aboba_9> do you know when it will be decided? or some info about it?
[16:33] <Len-nb> there is a bug report in and the developers have asked more info and we've sent it. I don't know where it has gone from there.
[16:34] <Len-nb> stopping and restarting qjackctl seems to work for now... ugly though.
[16:37] <aboba_9> yes, it works but a couple of times per session
[17:00] <Len-nb> aboba_9, the same thing happens using jack_control from the command line, but it seems to recover a bit better. Dbus with jack is relatively new and I guess still buggy. But other than that one problem I have seen no other problems.
[17:01] <aboba_9> oh, i tried ubuntu studio on VirtualBox
[17:02] <Len-nb> aboba_9, it's the same on a hardware install.
[17:03] <aboba_9> and all was ok, but only with AC97 soundcard emulation
[17:03] <Len-nb> aboba_9, AC97?  :P
[17:04] <aboba_9> with Intel HD Audio emulation the jackd is unable to start
[17:04] <Len-nb> aboba_9, what latency did you set?
[17:04] <aboba_9> 128-1024
[17:05] <aboba_9> I have Ubuntu Studio 12.04 on my laptop
[17:05] <Len-nb> aboba_9, that should be ok, I run -p 128 here on my netbook
[17:05] <aboba_9> and I tried it on virtual machine
[17:05] <aboba_9> on the*
[17:06] <aboba_9> the strange bug
[17:06] <aboba_9> why all was ok on ICH AC97 emu?
[17:07] <Len-nb> I have never done any testing on a vrtual machine... I have done all of mine on hardware with a second disk.
[17:07] <Len-nb> Another way of saying I don't know.
[17:08] <aboba_9> I'm too :D
[17:09] <aboba_9> I hope this bug will be decided soon
[17:11] <Len-nb> aboba_9, is there a bug on that? put one in just to make sure. It sounds like a virtual box bug.
[17:14] <aboba_9> No no) I don't have this bug with Virtual Box, i have it on my laptop with Ubuntu Studio
[17:15] <aboba_9> I tried it with VirtualBox just for experiment
[17:15] <aboba_9> But problem is on real machine with Ubuntu Studio 12.04
[17:16] <Len-nb> OK, do you get sound at all? using pulse with say an mp3 playback?
[17:17] <astraljava> aboba_9: Nonetheless, it needs to be reported. Has it been filed on LP?
[17:17] <aboba_9> yes, pulse ok
[17:17] <aboba_9> astraljava, yes i have reported
[17:18] <astraljava> aboba_9: Ok, can we have the bug # please?
[17:18] <aboba_9> but my report was dublicat:)
[17:18] <aboba_9> dublicate*
[17:18] <astraljava> Ahh.. ok.
[17:18] <aboba_9> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jackd2/+bug/956438
[17:19] <aboba_9> yes, it is
[17:19] <astraljava> Oh, don't mind ubottu. He's just a mindless bot. :)
[17:19] <Len-nb> That does not say anything about not getting sound from an HD IF though
[17:19] <astraljava> ubottu: Right?
[17:19] <astraljava> See? :)
[17:20] <astraljava> Oh, yeah true that.
[17:20] <aboba_9> oh, so many messages
[17:20] <aboba_9> My English is not good)
[17:21] <Len-nb> aboba_9, I use a HD sound interface and it works with jack and pulse both.
[17:21] <Len-nb> I was born english and mine isn't either you are doing fine.
[17:21] <aboba_9> On real machine I have two cards
[17:21] <aboba_9> One - HD Intel
[17:22] <aboba_9> First*ЖВ
[17:22] <aboba_9> :D
[17:22] <Len-nb> ok
[17:22] <aboba_9> Second - E-mu 0404 USB
[17:22] <aboba_9> and with both
[17:22] <aboba_9> The jackd starts ok
[17:22] <aboba_9> well*
[17:23] <aboba_9> but on stop it shows error messages
[17:24] <Len-nb> Yup, you can safetly ignore those. It just means you have to restart qjackctl.
[17:24] <aboba_9> It may to be on second or third start-stop
[17:25] <Len-nb> How often do you need to stop jackd? I would think in normal use, jack is started and left running for the whole use time.
[17:26] <aboba_9> in addition to errors the start button still locked
[17:27] <aboba_9> after closing
[17:28] <aboba_9> i start the qjackctl
[17:28] <aboba_9> start button is locked
[17:29] <Len-nb> If all else fails, open a terminal and "ps x". look for the PID of jackdbus and "kill -9 " that PID.
[17:29] <aboba_9> yes, i did it
[17:29] <Len-nb> Then restart qjackctl.
[17:30] <aboba_9> but after that I can't start jackd
[17:30] <aboba_9> It not connect to soundcard
[17:31] <Len-nb> in qjackctl on the setup page, what card does it point to?
[17:32] <Len-nb> aboba_9, it is labeled interface.
[17:32] <aboba_9> Cannot connect to server socket err= !@#!@#!#(some symbols like оеди); Cannot connect to server socket; jack server is not running or cannot be started
[17:34] <Len-nb> Thats ok. qjackctl seems to say that by default when it starts.
[17:34] <aboba_9> i have this problem with both cards
[17:35] <Len-nb> is the start buttom green or grey?
[17:35] <aboba_9> grey
[17:35] <aboba_9> but if i kill jackdbus daemon
[17:35] <aboba_9> it is green
[17:36] <Len-nb> Ya that is where I thought we were, sorry.
[17:37] <aboba_9> and when i press the button it shows messages (Cannot connect to server socket.....)
[17:37] <aboba_9> can i start the jackdbusd after killing?
[17:37] <aboba_9> or
[17:37] <Len-nb> qjackctl should start it.
[17:38] <Len-nb> you can do jack_control start
[17:38] <Len-nb> jack_control status
[17:39] <aboba_9> DBus exception: org.jackaudio.Error.Generic: Failed to open server
[17:39] <aboba_9> --- status stopped
[17:39] <Len-nb> aboba_9, from which command?
[17:39] <aboba_9> jack_control start;  DBus exception: org.jackaudio.Error.Generic: Failed to open server
[17:39] <aboba_9> jack_control status; --- status stopped
[17:40] <Len-nb> ok. I think that is saying that the setup is wrong. That is what happens to me when I have my frames/period set to 64
[17:41] <Len-nb> My HD interface is not able to handle any lower than 128
[17:41] <aboba_9> I have 2048 samples
[17:41] <aboba_9> now
[17:42] <Len-nb> With qjackctl look at your settings. interface?
[17:43] <Len-nb> sample rate? (48000 is safest)
[17:43] <aboba_9> interface: alsa
[17:44] <aboba_9> sample rate: 44100
[17:44] <aboba_9> oh oh
[17:44] <Len-nb> driver alsa? interface should be hw:0 or something
[17:44] <aboba_9> no
[17:45] <aboba_9> interface: hw:2
[17:45] <Len-nb> 2? You have three cards?
[17:45] <aboba_9> i don't shure
[17:46] <aboba_9> hw:0 is HD-Audio Generic
[17:46] <Len-nb> click on the arrow beside and make sure there is a hw:2
[17:46] <Len-nb> yup.
[17:46] <aboba_9> hw:0,3 is HDMI 0
[17:46] <Len-nb> part of the same card
[17:47] <aboba_9> hw:2 is HD-Audio Generic again
[17:47] <Len-nb> no hw:1?
[17:47] <aboba_9> hw:2,0 is ALC269VB Analog
[17:47] <aboba_9> Usually hw:1 is E-Mu
[17:48] <aboba_9> but now it is not connected
[17:48] <Len-nb> ok. I would use hw:0
[17:49] <Len-nb> if hw:1 is not connected then alsa has not updated properly. and hw:2 has maybe changed or moved.
[17:50] <Len-nb> You may have a cable (or other problem) with the USB module.
[17:50] <aboba_9> no
[17:50] <Len-nb> does it work when you select hw:0
[17:51] <Len-nb> no which?
[17:51] <aboba_9> no, i have
[17:51] <aboba_9> oohhh, shiii, i'm confused
[17:51] <aboba_9> :D
[17:51] <aboba_9> Now i connect my usb card
[17:51] <Len-nb> thats ok, me too.
[17:52] <aboba_9> After that i have three interfaces
[17:52] <aboba_9> hw:0 HD-Audio Generic
[17:52] <aboba_9> hw:1 E-mu 0404 USB
[17:52] <aboba_9> hw:2 HD-Audio Generic
[17:52] <Len-nb> I'm going to have to go, I have an appointment in 15min.
[17:53] <Len-nb> can you start jack now?
[17:53] <aboba_9> but hw:0 is digital part of HD-Sound Generic
[17:53] <aboba_9> i think
[17:53] <aboba_9> and hw:2 is analog part
[17:53] <aboba_9> No, i can not
[17:55] <Len-nb> OK, I do have to go. I'll be back in about 4 hours I think, but maybe someone else has some ideas
[17:55] <aboba_9> Ok
[17:55] <aboba_9> But i going to sleep soon
[17:55] <aboba_9> Thanks for hepl
[17:55] <aboba_9> help*
[17:56] <Len-nb> your welcome. It is 11am for me
[18:03] <aboba_9> I see one decision: start jackd one time per session and use it like main sound system. And don't stop it)
[18:26] <len-dt> aboba_9, Just thought of something.
[18:27] <len-dt> I would suggest you boot with your USB sound interface unplugged.
[18:27] <len-dt> and plug it in after you get to the login screen
[18:27] <len-dt> That way both of your HD interfaces should be hw0 and hw1
[18:28] <len-dt> and your usb will then be hw2
[18:36] <mbeierl> Silly question - perhaps more of xfce, but I'm coming from a gnome background.  How do I bind a keystroke to an action.  For example, I use Super-X to launch an xterm and I'd like to do that in ubuntustudio
[18:41] <Len-nb> settings manager->window manager  keyboard tab.
[18:46] <mbeierl> len-dt, thanks, but how do I add a new keystroke to that.  That appears only to control window actions like maximize, etc
[18:48] <mbeierl> AH!  Keyboard -> Application shortcuts.  got it, thanks!
[21:16] <len-dt> mbeierl, That was the first one I looked at :P sorry, gl;ad you got it.