[00:02] <HoNgOuRu> there is obviously a bugg look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/494099
[00:06] <HoNgOuRu> I fixed IT !!!!!
[00:06] <HoNgOuRu> just added enable-lfe-remixing = yes to /etc/modules/daemon.conf
[04:34] <stevedtrrrrm> ello noobz
[04:34] <stevedtrrrrm> any1 here?
[04:57] <mystdarren> stevedtrrrrm: do you need help?
[05:17] <stevedtrrrrm> mystdarren - im hoping to get linux running in a virtual machine
[05:17] <stevedtrrrrm> on windows.
[05:18] <stevedtrrrrm> got an old PC
[05:18] <stevedtrrrrm> considering the move over to linux
[05:18] <stevedtrrrrm> wanna try it out.
[05:18] <stevedtrrrrm> the PC has 768 MB RAM
[05:19] <stevedtrrrrm> ami better trying full ubuntu or l version first?
[05:20] <Unit193> I don't think Unity would run well on that, but what is your processor?
[05:21] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[05:33] <stevedtrrrrm> centrino 1.5 ghz
[06:13] <mystdarren> stevedtrrrrm: I'd just backup your current setup and install lubuntu fresh
[06:56] <windbuntu> can lubuntu properly use a dual core computer?
[06:58] <Unit193> Don't see why not.
[06:59] <bioterror> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-linux-smp/
[06:59] <bioterror> you tell us after reading that for example
[06:59] <bioterror> as I dont know what's your properly
[07:00] <bioterror> but yes, we use same kernel as ubuntu and it comes with SMP
[08:51] <Yos> can I switch from Ubuntu 12.04 to lubuntu without having to make a fresh install ?
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Yos: yes
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Yos: install lubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <Yos> thank you gordonjcp
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Yos: bear in mind that much of the stuff that Unity requires running in the background will still be started
[09:12] <gordonjcp> so there's going to be a certain amount of cleaning up to do
[09:12] <Yos> you have some time to help me with this 'clean up' ?
[09:13] <Yos> I don't like unity at all
[09:13] <gordonjcp> not really, I'm at work
[09:13] <Yos> ah, ok
[09:13] <gordonjcp> tbh just installing lxde will probably be enough
[09:13] <gordonjcp> I quite like Unity
[09:13] <gordonjcp> it takes a bit of getting used to though
[09:13] <MrChrisDruif> Yos; you're running ubuntu with openbox already?
[09:14] <bioterror> gordonjcp, not that much, !purelxde ;)
[09:14] <Yos> yes MrChrisDruif
[09:14] <gordonjcp> I'm currently running xubuntu but for some reason all the fonts are tiny
[09:14] <gordonjcp> if I could get xubuntu with straight ubuntu's font settings I'd be happy enough with that
[09:16] <Yos> MrChrisDruif, I have been using openbox like 3 days and have enjoyed it but it does lack from what a full DE has to offer
[09:16] <MrChrisDruif> But sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop should give you that full DE
[09:17] <Yos> just finished, I'm gonna reboot into it, brb
[09:18] <mi3> #linuxmint-debian
[09:18] <mi3> #linuxmint-debian
[09:20] <MrChrisDruif> Not only is that completely out of context mi3, but you'll be frown upon by the op's (don't just spam a channel with a different distro)
[09:20] <gordonjcp> man I wonder if I can get Unity running on FreeBSD
[09:21] <mi3> err sorry, I typed that in the wrong channel, sorry for that
[09:21] <MrChrisDruif> mi3; it can happen
[09:21] <gordonjcp> never ascribe to malice what can be ascribed to incompetence ;-)
[09:21] <mi3> lol
[09:24] <Yos> looks good :)
[09:27] <Yos> MrChrisDruif, what do I have to do to get rid of Unity all togather ?
[09:28] <MrChrisDruif> Yos; You don't have unity installed right now, right?
[09:28] <Yos> I am on Ubuntu 12.04 so Unity is installed
[09:29] <bioterror> !purelxde | yos
[09:31] <gordonjcp> bioterror: I know that works, but it still scares me a bit
[09:31] <gordonjcp> and really, how long does it take to do a clean install?
[09:31] <gordonjcp> (yes, I know that's not the whole story and you've then got to reinstall locally-installed apps)
[09:31] <MrChrisDruif> gordonjcp; why does it scare you?
[09:31] <Timo_> Hi, yesterday  I've upgraded to 12.04 (fromout 11.10), I've used it, and also booted on it a few times already. But now I am now unable to boot. I could see the boot logo, but now it's stuck at "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility. Starting CUPS printing spooler/server" and then nothing happens :(
[09:32] <gordonjcp> MrChrisDruif: well, in my experience deleting "unnecessary" packages either leaves a lot of cruft around, or ganks out something essential
[09:33] <bioterror> gordonjcp, apt-get purge ;)
[09:33] <MrChrisDruif> gordonjcp; if you purge instead of remove, you also remove the setting files, but if you look at the end of the command, you'll see it'll install lubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <MrChrisDruif> Or so it *used* to mention it
[09:36] <MrChrisDruif> Anyhow, if you append "; sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop -f" it should check if lubuntu-desktop is intact
[09:37] <Yos> wow, this removes a lot
[09:37] <Yos> vlc, gufw, virtualbox, lol
[09:38] <Yos> so I'll basically end up with a fresh install after this ?
[09:38] <Yos> hope it doesn't remove Tor
[09:44] <MrChrisDruif> Yos; you'll see a complete list it attempts to remove before remove which is alphabetised, just check if tor is among that list
[09:45] <MrChrisDruif> Or is Tor an plugin for firefox/chromium?
[09:46] <bioterror> Timo_, if you press ctrl+alt+f7, you dont end up to graphical?
[09:47] <Timo_> no
[09:47] <Timo_> it shows me the latest boot info
[09:47] <Timo_> like the 'Starting CUPS printing spooler/server [OK]"
[09:47] <bioterror> what if you press ctrl+alt+f1?
[09:47] <bioterror> do you get tty?
[09:47] <Timo_> im there now
[09:47] <Timo_> :P
[09:48] <bioterror> can you run command: startlubuntu
[09:48] <Timo_> "(lxsession:2295) Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:48] <Yos> well, at least Tor remained lol
[09:49] <Yos> and my system didn't break yet
[09:49] <Timo_> Yos: nice one :D
[09:49] <bioterror> Timo_, can you stop lightdm service?
[09:51] <Timo_> bioterror: it's not running, I think
[09:52] <bioterror> Timo_, sudo service lightdm stop
[09:52] <bioterror> what does it say?
[09:52] <Timo_> unkown instance
[09:52] <bioterror> your system was 12.04?
[09:53] <Yos> and my anonet hub is still here :)
[09:53] <Timo_> and when I do 'sudo lightdm', it goes to tty7, and it flickers, and goes back to the log message. Yes I'm at 12.04
[09:53] <Timo_> as far as I know :P
[09:53] <bioterror> hmmmm
[09:53] <bioterror> you should have that kind of instance
[09:55] <Timo_> I think that's what the problem is. the graphical enviroment fails, and that's why lightdm fails as well
[09:55] <Timo_> or something
[09:55] <bioterror> you still have LXDM?
[09:57] <Timo_> but, I was on Lubutnu 12.04 with everything working yesterday, how can it be borked now :p
[09:57] <Timo_> hey, lxdm is working :D
[09:57] <bioterror> okay
[09:57] <bioterror> sounds like a conflict
[09:57] <Timo_> im logged on now! :D
[09:58] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror; it's "sudo stop <service>"
[09:58] <bioterror> it is not!
[09:58] <MrChrisDruif> or restart etc...
[09:58] <MrChrisDruif> Why does my network-manager restart with "sudo restart network-manager" then?
[10:00] <Timo_> bioterror: would it be possible to set LXDM as default instead of LightDM
[10:00] <MrChrisDruif> Timo_; dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[10:01] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, append sudo in front of that of course
[10:02] <Timo_> okay, thanks a lot people! I'm quickly going back to learning my exam
[10:02] <bioterror> I would try to solve LightDM problem
[10:02] <bioterror> as that's the default DM from 12.04 on
[10:02] <Timo_> ye but I really don't have the time right now :P
[10:03] <Timo_> again, thanks, I appreciate your work! :)
[11:33] <Yos> what is the default firewall for lubuntu? ufw ?
[11:33] <Yos> iptables ?
[11:48] <kristian-school> hi ppl
[11:48] <kristian-school> this is kristian-aalborg on the laptop that's running 12.04 and has a buggy LXPanel
[11:51] <kristian-school> I can't reproduce, though
[11:51] <kristian-school> hi Unit193 and holstein :D
[14:31] <LuUser> hey, i got my pgp keys setup in seahorse (passwords and keys) but how do i encrypt/decrpty messages.  when i right click a text file i don't see the options
[14:36] <LuUser> anyone using pgp on lubuntu?
[14:40] <Resistance> LuUser:  not sure if your client has the support ootb, but you can pgp encrypt a message via command line...
[14:42] <LuUser> seahorse is has plugins for nautilus that i installed.  but lubuntu runs kde right?  should i install nautilus or will that change the interface
[14:42] <Resistance> Kubuntu runs KDE
[14:42] <Resistance> i dont think Lubuntu runs KDE...
[14:42] <Resistance> i dont recommend installing nautilus, by the way ;P
[14:43] <Resistance> aw, not again... /me runs off to deal with the cascade failure of servers in two of the clusters he manages at work
[15:22] <kristian-T61p> hi ppl
[15:26] <gordonjcp> hmm
[15:27] <gordonjcp> lubuntu is borked since I last updated
[15:27] <wormmd> I can't get Sylpheed to retrieve mail from an account that Thunderbid will, and I've set everything up as similar as possible. It looks like Sylpheed has far fewer options to set than Thunderbird. Has anyone had any problems with Sylpheed?
[15:27]  * gordonjcp has had many problems with sylpheed
[15:28] <gordonjcp> to the extent that I'm seriously considering forking it, patching the hell out of it, and submitting the patches
[15:28] <gordonjcp> anyone else getting lubuntu getting stuck unable to start X?
[15:31] <wormmd> gordonjcp: I suppose I'll stick with Thunderbird for now, thanks :)
[17:01] <Pro7_> http://static.debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/
[18:10] <gordonjcp> right, time to unbork lubuntu on my laptop
[18:10] <gordonjcp> has anyone else had problems with X not starting, since some recent update?
[18:11] <zleap> i only installed the other day so no issues so far
[18:13] <gordonjcp> odd
[18:13] <gordonjcp> think I'll just back it up and nuke it
[18:13] <gordonjcp> I'm finding lubuntu a bit slow and crashy, tbh
[18:14] <zleap> hmm
[18:14] <gordonjcp> lxpanel goes insane when firefox finishes downloading something
[18:14] <zleap> hmm, but firefox is bigger,  what does chrome do ?
[18:14] <gordonjcp> starts consuming all memory, and brings the machine to its knees
[18:14] <gordonjcp> don't know
[18:15] <gordonjcp> I junked chromium straight away, it's unusable
[18:15] <wxl> that's strange
[18:15] <wxl> as a die-hard firefox user i just switched to chromium
[18:15] <zleap> i find ubuntu makes the screen fade out,  when doing tasks,  thankfully crtl-alt-f1 works so i can login and reboot
[18:15] <gordonjcp> there's no way to turn off the annoying "this file may harm your computer" message when you go to download a PDF
[18:15] <wxl> so much faster for me
[18:16] <wxl> in chromium
[18:16] <wxl> ?
[18:16] <gordonjcp> yeah
[18:16] <gordonjcp> and it's several mouse clicks to get rid of it
[18:16] <gordonjcp> and actually get the damn pdf
[18:16] <gordonjcp> multiplied by reading dozens and dozens of PDFs a day, it starts to get a bit bloody obnoxious
[18:17] <wxl> options > under the hood > downloads > ask where to save each file
[18:17] <gordonjcp> right, but that doesn't disable it whining about how the file might damage my computer
[18:17] <gordonjcp> quite how it would, I don't know
[18:18] <wxl> it should
[18:18] <wxl> does over here
[18:19] <gordonjcp> hang on, let me install it on this machine
[18:22] <wxl> btw might i recommend the vrome extension (if you're a vim lover)
[18:22] <wxl> so much better than vimperator for ff
[18:23] <gordonjcp> haha
[18:23] <gordonjcp> "under the hood"?
[18:23] <wxl> yeah yeah
[18:23] <gordonjcp> in en-GB it's i18nised as "Under the Bonnet"
[18:23] <gordonjcp> love it
[18:23] <wxl> HAHAHAHAHAH
[18:23] <wxl> wtf
[18:24] <wxl> too bad it 'twasn't under the petticoats
[18:26] <gordonjcp> right, "ask where to save each file" gets rid of that, but asks where I want to save the file
[18:26] <gordonjcp> I don't want it to save it, I want it to spark up evince, without bothering me with stupid questions
[18:26] <wxl> that's just the way it is
[18:27] <wxl> nothing lubuntu can help you out with
[18:27] <gordonjcp> hence my use of firefox
[18:28] <gordonjcp> since the chromium irc channel was about as much use as a chocolate fireguard
[18:28] <gordonjcp> "ZOMG YOU CAN'T TURN THAT OFF BECAUSE PDFS ARE A SECURITY RISK!!11!!!!1!!!!"
[18:28] <wxl> his is also a chrome problem
[18:28] <wxl> ^t
[18:28] <wxl> so you could go complain at google
[18:28] <wxl> good luck on that one
[18:28] <wxl> meanwhile i'd move on ;)
[18:28] <gordonjcp> "ZOMG PDFS CAN HACK YOUR SYSTEM AND YOU GET A VIRUSES"
[18:29] <gordonjcp> mongtards, the lot of them
[18:29] <zleap> what about word files or libre office scripts
[18:29] <gordonjcp> I don't use word files
[18:29] <gordonjcp> I never use office apps
[18:29] <zleap> but they can have scripts
[18:29] <gordonjcp> don't give a toss, I never use the things
[18:29] <zleap> i am talking generally if pdfs are a security risk,
[18:30] <zleap> yeah but if you block 1 sort of file when there are lots out there that also pose a risk,
[18:32] <smile> bye :)
[18:33] <gordonjcp> zleap: oh totally
[18:33] <zleap> i have never had anything block pdfs though
[19:09] <zleap> why is the cd image reported as 688 mb but also shows upas 721mb
[19:09] <zleap> which would imply it won't fit on a normal cd-r if its >700mb
[20:00] <zleap> hello
[20:01] <Unit193> Howdy, how may we help you?
[20:02] <zleap> i am fine,  er is the iso image designed for a cd-r
[20:02] <zleap> as its 721 mb
[20:02] <zleap> even though windows says its 688 mb
[20:02] <Unit193> unit193 unit193 689M Apr 26 19:10 lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[20:03] <Unit193> ls -lh   in the terminal, or check with thunar.
[22:22] <nicklas_> hello, are there any good compositors for lxde in repos?
[22:22] <Unit193> Sure, and here's how to use a few http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/search/label/eyecandy
[22:28] <nicklas_> ty
[22:30] <nicklas_> hm, cairo-compmgr repos :-) cairo-compmgr is old though
[22:46] <osmodivs> Hello. I just upgraded to Lubuntu 12.04, Before I ipgraded, in the login screen, the system would let me choose the languaje, now, it wont, it is a completly new different manager. I remember the system asking me for a display manager, it was light something and lxdm, How can I go back to the old manager?
[22:47] <osmodivs> Login manager, I do not know the exact term
[22:47] <Unit193> First, can you click at the top right corner? That should have the option.
[22:49] <osmodivs> Unit193, No, no such option there, it only has an option for High contrast theme
[22:49]  * Unit193 thought there was...
[22:49] <Unit193> Alright, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[22:50] <stevmmm> trying to installlubuntu on a virtual box
[22:50] <stevmmm> keeps saying it cant lock down the memory
[22:50] <stevmmm> and crashing
[22:50] <stevmmm> using virtualbox
[22:50] <stevmmm> on an old laptop with winxp
[22:58] <osmodivs> Unit193, Yes, it worked, that command let me choose another manager, I choose LXDM and that one lets me choose the language, so i guess LIGHTD is garbage because it does not let me choose the languageM
[22:58] <osmodivs> Thank you Unit193
[23:00] <Unit193> LightDM, and it should, let me look at a wiki.
[23:03] <Unit193> Yeah, I have the option here.
[23:11] <stevmmm> cant get lubuntu to work on my virtualbox :(
[23:11] <Unit193> That sounded more like a vbox/windows problem.
[23:12] <stevmmm> i guess so.
[23:13] <Unit193> #vbox maybe?
[23:14] <stevmmm> didnt know it existed
[23:14] <stevmmm> thanx
[23:14] <stevmmm> :)
[23:14] <Unit193> Hope they can get it.
[23:49] <Osmodivs_> Hello. I keep getting this error on my Webbrowers (Chromium and Firefox) skin color is wrong, red seem like blue and blue seems like red, What could be wrong here? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/31596